Why Is Everyone HYPING This Raid? | Wrath Classic

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[@ignaciomartin562]

I didn't experience Ulduar back in Original WotLK so that's why I'm really hyped for this one!

[@toraso842]

Ulduar was magical to mount to achievements and titles u get those u were considered the best. Overall instance was amazing with the right people u raid with. Every gear drop was like amazing to get.

[@mezmerya5130]

Ulduar forever in my heart, and death's demise is the only title i care about on my main account.

[@andromidius]

Good luck! Its going to be stiff competition - only one raid group per server can get it, after all!

[@mezmerya5130]

@@andromidius except i already have it.

[@Makaveli13Xroy]

pretty much the coolest title lock behind realms first :( always disliked this

[@iridimite1563]

@@mezmerya5130except no one cares now because it’s not out on classic. L title

[@mezmerya5130]

@@iridimite1563 i ve seen very few raiders who don't. Go do your petbattles or whatnot.

[@TWEEK0423]

Kara and ICC were my all time favorites. Getting to see the lich king for the first time was awe inspiring

[@MrChrizzyp]

Let's be honest Ulduar could have been your favourite for a number of reasons, maybe it was the music, bosses, architecture or any other additional flair... Yet honestly we all know secretly why it's our favourite. Once upon a time in a casual raiding guild on a Wotlk server... Our raid team was exploring Ulduar, we would clear a new boss once a week an take our time, not reading guides or looking for spoilers unless we struggled an couldn't clear (hence the slow progress).... it wasn't until we went up to face Mimiron about 8-9 weeks after Ulduar launched that our guild... welll... As we approached one guy cried out " GUYS!!!!!! IT's..... THERE'S A TRAIN!!!!!" "no no, that's not a train, there's no rails... it doesn't even move..." Que the next 5-10 mins of our raid team searching around wondering wtf this was. blaming the raid leader (me) for taking the raid team down the wrong direction and us getting lost. Again no idea wtf i was doing ( i was 19 or so) . Then suddenly with half our team on the platform and a few on "the train" one guy finds the switch and "clicks it" With that there are gasps all across Ventrillo "it... it... IT MOVES?!?!" to which i responded "Finally i was waiting for sum-one to step up" those on the platform "NOOOOO! come back wait for us where are you going?!?!?!" one of the guys on the train "HEEELPPP, WE'RE BEING ABDUCTED...YOGGY'S TAKING US TO HIS TENTACLE LAIR" ( raid "general" would be filled with spoilers or what bosses did. one of the themes was that if you died to many times yoggy would get stronger and would devour your soul in his tentacle lair) after this episode my guild... my entire raid team... instead of raiding decided to spend the next TWO HOURS of the raid flying up an down an watching it spin around....in all it's glory.... epics? new bosses? a new cinematic? no no no un important..... a flying space train "FUCK YEAH!" no matter how far we'd get on additional raid content if we struggled to "get the kill" on a boss... at least one person would say "guys i know why we're failing we haven't got the train buff" another would say "no no, it's too soon, the lewt gods haven't been fed enough souls, 3 moar wipes should be enough" i'd then issue a ready check... this was to determine if people thought 3 "fake tries" to get the death counter up would be enough., naturally people said yes, new recruits they needed to learn... we would then pull/die wipe... over the next 10 mins, then a portal to Dalaran would then be made... people would fly to ulduar we would go in.... CLEAR all the the way to mimiron JUST to get to the train every1 aboard, campfire down...every 1 was commanded to "ride on the train, fully buffed" after it went one way and then back again, another portal was made to wat ever content we were on..... ( or people would log two alts join the raid an help summon the raid team back) an then then we would have THAT pull! the one you hoped would bring you glory..... lets just say we had an 80% (or so) success rate in downing anything after this "ritual" No other raid has ever had an effect like this in any other guild/raid team i've been in. everything is always "super serious" maybe it was just wotlk, or the silliness of youth or maybe it was just the "magic of Ulduar" whatever it was.... there's less than a month until we get to experience it all again an i can't wait 🤣

[@Nohugsforyou1]

What a cool memory/experience. Thanks for sharing.

[@harvestingseason2725]

Ty for sharing

[@Caffeine.And.Carvings]

Good luck trying to get this experience ^^ people will want to rush and clear week one. No time to get sidetracked

[@baloneykid890]

I’m really hyped for Ulduar but weirdly I’m not tired of naxx yet. Just got betrayer today and I still need a few other pieces. I just love that part of wow’s lore, the atmosphere , the gore visuals, killing abominations. It feels like home.

[@evanchumley]

I mean shit yeah if i managed to win the role on betrayer i wouldn’t quite be tired of Naxx yet either hahah

[@jeremykothe2847]

Ulduar will be steam-rolled. Most of the challenges in it are dps-checks, the strategies are well-known. And we all saw how Sunwell went with its dps-checks.

[@Plasmabeisser]

and everyone can train everything on the PTR, if they want to. and steal themselves their hype when it comes out.

[@OTPulse]

Except SWP was still wiping most guilds that weren't sweaty nerds who no life the game. My guild got stuck on Twins and Mu'ru several times, even last boss we didn't kill for a couple weeks.

[@TheWillWojtek]

@@Plasmabeisser Guilds going for world first were probably already training for weeks at least, it's not like you have to wait for PTR to do it.

[@Vihara2]

I wiped with several guilds like 200+ times on muru, you needed meta comps to clear him every time, ulduar will do that better i feel

[@dogswifty7800]

@@Vihara2 you didn't need meta comp to beat M'uru, my guild killed it with 3 ret paladins.

[@StarFang52]

Ulduar is my all time favorite raid! beautiful instance, awesome music and fun boss fights :D

[@Erati243]

Played it for years on a private server have ya? :)

[@StarFang52]

@@Erati243 I have actually yet to tray private servers. I played it when it was released back in original WotLK

[@TheBlaert]

Best raid to this day. I fondly remember doing Flame Leviathan at the start and our GM/Raid leader activating hardmode thinking it was normal. We spent a few hours on that one but still managed the kill eventually

[@superkozel1]

as i remember, no one beaten hard mode leviathan in first week. It was heavily nerfed afterwards

[@TheBlaert]

@@superkozel1 yeah it was nerfed before we did it and it was only 10 man

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

Ulduar was an RPers Raid. The hard modes were integrated into the instance design and not just some toggle. Things were discoverable. It is almost the polar opposite to ToGC which was literally a raid boss design expo with no RP features. Where ToGC had lifted the veil on raiding, Ulduar held the veil firmly in tact and embraced it. For people that enjoy raiding like hopping onto a ride at a theme park ToGC was pretty good, all the ride without the fluff. No trash, not RP "discoveries" etc. Just pure unadulterated boss fights one after the other. And as far as theme park rides go, the fights were pretty fun. Ulduar was exactly the opposite of this - it was a properly integrated instance with a story and "discoverable secrets" with trash, and integrated hard modes with an RP twist. For people who like RP in their MMORPGs Ulduar was the biscuit.

[@Neophrone]

All Classic raids were cleared at day 1. The reason is that hardcore guilds were doing all these bosses on PTR. Put them in a situation where they don’t know how exactly Blizzard scripted hard modes - and prolly we’ll get real race to world first.

[@murdsy4456]

Thats major cope. They will be cleared day 1 PTR or not honestly

[@blackyvertigo]

@@murdsy4456 no doubt, but I don’t believe there will be as many clearing in day 1. Pre nerf ulduar has never been attempted on this game build, and with how much more of a faceroll naxx has been with dps hitting parses that were not possible in 3.0 there will also be a few arrogant players who will feel the cold sting of XT’s metal hand across their faces as they think they can just zug his hard mode.

[@murdsy4456]

@@blackyvertigo oh i agree, for 99% of players those dps checks arent attainable. If you look at dps needed on XTs hardmode from your guilds patchwerk, then see the dps needed for XTs hardmode they will be greatly humbled haha.

[@kaizersmoeller]

So sweet minded. To Think that the hardcore players ger the experience from ptr ;) most hardcore players have been playing wrath private servers the last 10-14 years ;)

[@Neophrone]

@@kaizersmoeller u right, but Classic scripting has some difference in comparison with pservers. I was playing numbers of TBC pservers, but the way how Lady Vashj (pre-nerf) was scripted on TBCC with uncontrollable MC and Spore bats with shit load of health - completely a different story. General mechanics obviously will be the same but some details like I described above potentially could change strategies and tactics completely.

[@ViktorBlaskov]

Ulduar is great, but don't expect it to be just as great the second time around. Did it on a private server and was very disappointed how much of the magic is lost once you've already run it one patch.

[@danieldiggs9574]

All magic is lost after the first time. Like getting back with an ex 10 years later . The sex ain't as good. Her looks are a bit older. Weight got put on. Age and boredom. That's why you can't go back in life ever with anything. It will never have the same feeling again. I really enjoyed Vanilla classic. I really enjoyed TBC classic esp as a Disc priest in PVP and a PVE healer. It got to the point where I was top heals in the guild over druid and shamans and in pvp I started out healing druids and becoming a target. I got bored but Wrath wow. I hit like level 71 and was done. I forgot how dull northrend was, how bland the gear is and how easy the game got and I played and raided Wrath more than Vanilla and TBC back in the real days of them. If Blizzard kept one TBC classic server going I'd probably be there. Kara was fun no matter how far into the game I got. Heck I was outhealing everyone in Kara gear heading into Sunwell. Had a mix of stuff. You know how pathetic Wrath is. I went into a Level 75 dungeon or so on my priest at level 71 and healed the guild. For laughs I put on Benediction, Truefaith Vestments and Hide of the Wild as well as Tier 2 BWL shoulders, belt and legs from Ragnaros. No deaths. No wipes. Did just fine healing the pally tank. That's when I knew I was bored. Went back to vanilla classic got my priest there up to level 42. Healed elite quest in Arathi other day taking on 4 elites at once with a rogue and was chaotic but fun. Prob. going to go back to vanilla. Rather run ZG, BWL, UBRS etc. once a week. That's just me. At this point I figured I'd go retail and stick to vanilla for nostalgia. Can do all the boring crap in Wrath in retail solo wise.

[@Sarthetv]

Ulduar HYPE!

[@Kalisparo]

The first boss in terrace of endless spring had a "hm" depending on which of the bosses you killed first, just like iron council in ulduar.

[@RShurr1can3]

pretty sure so did the bug trio in AQ40.

[@Kalisparo]

@RShurr1can3 oh yeah you're right. I was only thinking about latter HMs, as the video states that it was the last time a tier had HMs. (Arguably halfus in bastion of twilight had random hm depending on the drakes of the week with no added rewards. Later repeated for the first boss in mogushan vault :D)

[@atspats112]

No raid is more magical than Karazhan. The music, the mystery.

[@dylanreidel5520]

faxx

[@nepomuknothelfer8494]

Yeees

[@picklechin3061]

🧢 Ulduar clears

[@thewinner4me816]

Never really cared for karazhan myself

[@styxzero1675]

@@thewinner4me816 Guess u dident start playing in tbc xD

[@Qckikogaming]

omg.... i havent tought about tankspot since! what a nostagia hit

[@KelluehazeDSOO]

Never played ulduar , played naxx (classic and private), TOC AND ICC(on private servers) so I’m super excited to play ulduar and TOC because I didn’t play ulduar at all and TOC barely

[@cerebralisk]

I have to be real a large portion of Ulduar's mystique is that it's one of the only raids that was followed by new content so quickly that it didn't overstay its welcome. People didn't really have a lot of time to get sick of it, so it's still remembered mostly fondly by those who did it the first time. But when I think back on it like objectively I just can't bring myself to gush about it, there are a few bosses that are really great and then there's some bosses which are just aggressively mid (though at least some of those are optional). That said I do hope people enjoy themselves, just don't set yourself up for this to be some euphoric experience where you have raiding perfection pumped into every orifice.

[@jeremykothe2847]

That is so true. Plus, the hard parts of Ulduar were opt-in, so you could "clear" it easily enough. Not like today's pug mode, but raids didn't feel compelled to get Yogg-0.

[@cerebralisk]

@@jeremykothe2847 Yeah that does contribute to the legend of Ulduar, even people who did it at the time might not have gotten to something like Firefighter, Yogg+1/0, or Algalon before ToC came out and obsoleted the place. A lot of the difficulty in Ulduar comes from checks on coordination though we'll see what the pre-nerf numbers actually look like.

[@andromidius]

I also think its variety really added to its appeal. Its huge raid. There's silly bosses, intense bosses, weird bosses and trippy bosses. There's not much trash (other then the beginning...) but the trash that exists is varied and interesting. The music is incredible. Its also a real test of a raid team. No hiding behind the pumpers and tanks knowing what they are doing - if you mess up, people know about it. Which can lead to drama, but it can also lead to people stepping up and becoming better players and for genuine comradery with people helping each other improve. And the loot is sweet too. Ulduar was when people start to feel genuinely powerful and some specs begin reaching their potential. Naxx makes Warriors look really bad no matter how good a player you are - in Ulduar glimpses of their future power can be seen. And healers become more then just health batteries - they really have things to do for a change. I don't know how challenging its going to be based on how different the playerbase is now. But I know its going to be a blast. If people can enjoy Naxx in its diminished state, then Ulduar is going to be a real treat.

[@cerebralisk]

@@andromidius oh yeah like i don't want to diminish how much fun can be had in ulduar it's a solid raid though legit i think if it had been current content longer and ICC a bit less it'd be ICC that was remembered as the great WotLK raid

[@Falcrist]

People latch onto this idea, but the truth is it's a much smaller part of it than the pundits want to admit.

[@ShintarsVideos]

My main memory of Ulduar back then is walking through a lot of fog, as my ageing PC forced me to turn down all the graphics settings, and the rooms in Ulduar were so big that you often couldn't even see the walls with limited view distance. Yogg-Saron was a cool fight though.

[@Spectacular66]

That was the majority of the playerbase then- low draw distances, minor spell effects and the low frame rates. I am going to be happy to finally see it the way it was meant to be seen when it drops though!

[@Epzilon12]

I remember Exodus. They were on my server Ysondre. I was pretty shocked at the time, especially when I read the suspension notice on MMO champ later.

[@Davivd2]

Uldaur was the only time Blizzard did vehicle combat right. You got in your vehicle, you had time to push all of the buttons and learn what they did, you gradually used all of your buttons on easy trash to get used to them, then you used your buttons on the boss after you got the feel of things. Every other time in WoW it's just. HEY YOU< HERE"S COMBAT> Better read what your buttons do and figure out how they interact in the next 2 seconds. Oh, and if you all have to stack up, and you need to use a button to heal, Better type: "/ tar (player you want to heal)" or play click roulette on them because we're not letting your target their vehicle through a raid frame.

[@dazzling3237]

Because literally every person that has played since early vanilla that has done every raid in the game over 15 years agrees it is by far the best raid that ever was.

[@TopSecretGG]

one of the, if not the best raid ever in wow, that is actually correct! :)

[@mezar4854]

I slept through ulduar and TOC, dps was a blur. ICC is my favorite

[@SymbianBlack]

Ulduar was legendary

[@mezar4854]

@@SymbianBlack I bet it was, I just didn’t really take my time and enjoy it. I think I blitz through it and then TOC came out and I stopped caring for it completely :( silly blizz

[@SymbianBlack]

@@mezar4854 yeah they could of let it simmer for like 6 more weeks

[@Xijor]

I predict the ilvl increase will make the raid much easier than everyone remembers. I expect to see tons of Mimiron’s Head mounts within the first month.

[@tintinmarchner1267]

Lots of More hardcore people today aswell

[@WhipLash42o]

Even without it you'd still see more Mimiron's Heads. The current playerbase is leagues better than the players from back then. It's not even comparably close lmfao.

[@blackyvertigo]

Pre nerf ulduar has never been done with this class and ability balance. It will both be easier for those that respect the content and a wake up call for the zug zug brained Uber parsers in naxx who keep costing their guild immortal runs.

[@Falcrist]

Hard modes are hard. Someone is going to kill it week 1, but a lot of people are going to get attitude adjustments. Maybe just the more casual guilds, though. Hard to tell.

[@10N154T10N]

Ulduar wasn't a perfect raid. The biggest issue was, eventually, its size... however, the overall design of the instance was one of the best Blizzard ever had. The siege engines section leading up to Flame Leviathan was almost designed to get people to try Hard Modes - considering Tower of Storms was entirely out of the way. The better your raid was, the more towers you left up, the better the loot was, and the less time you had to shoot Iron Dwarfs. And shooting Iron Dwarfs got boring really quickly. Past FL you had 2 relatively easy optional bosses and the cockblock-002. Ignis and Razorscale will be farmable from day one, and will most likely be first bosses your raid is going to start skipping. XT is going to be, hopefully, the major obstacle early on that some dad guilds (no disrespect, I am in a dad guild myself right now) will struggle with. Especially if Bombs and Tantrums will be, once again, happening at the same time. Ignis and Razoerscale are designed to be sources of gear early on, with no hard modes to speak of. Eventually, they're skipped completely in favour of bosses located deeper in Ulduar. And that's fine! They serve their purpose early on. Past XT we got Assembly of Iron. This is the only council fight in Ulduar with its own hard mode to work on, providing more challenges -- but remaining optional later on. Kologorn on the other *hand* is very much a "don't stand in shit boss". While not optional, once players are used to his animations and patterns of attacks, he becomes relatively bursty. Also-- AoE boys got something to do here! After that only Auriaya is left, voiced by the wonderful Mona Marshall who you might have heard before in South Park ( as Sheila Broflovski, among others), and the Four Keepers are available. This is where Ulduar really kicks off. With the combination of binary and non-binary hardmodes, we have 4 bosses with 10 different killing permutations depending on how strong the raid is. The 1337 Teams will proceed to Firefighter and 3E Freya while dad guilds can chill doing normal Hodirs and Thorims, accumulating gear to eventually cover the skill gap. With Keepers down, the only boss I really hated, General Vezax was the last barrier before the Old God himself. Vezax felt like that guy who stays at your house party long after the music ended, and you technically can't leave him alone and show one of the girls "the upstairs". He is sitting on the couch, eating cold pizza, mindlessly looking at Netflix... You really don't trust him enough to leave him downstairs alone, so you have to take time to get him Uber back home, while what you really want to do, is show a girl a consensual good time using protection upstairs. Hated that guy. And General Vezax too. Speaking of protection-- Yogg-Saron is a 3rd and final "non-binary" hard mode in Ulduar. You're presented with 5 difficulty modes - 4,3,2,1 and 0 Keepers to work through, giving players a lot of potential for improvement on the last boss of the raid. Or is it? Technically.. there is one more... The secret optional boss, Algalon was a cherry on top of a very, very large cake. Even getting to see this fight with your own eyes made your adrenaline go up. While not more difficult than Alone in the Darkness, Algalon required players to do Firefighter, another infamous hard mode from Mimoron, among others. And the 1h combat time was an interesting take on the difficulty scale. For Algalon, most of the "fight" was happening on the forum, with people strategizing who to bring and what to do in the limited time they could engage Algalon each week. And yes, those hard modes are perhaps a little clunky, but they were very well designed to allow players with widely different skills to progress through Ulduar at their own speed. And whatever Ion says, I don't think that they could put together a harmonious set of bosses and challenges like that again, even if they tried. Unless you were an absolute top-level player, there was always something more to look forward to and achieve. And a lot of challenges were scalable to the skill/gear of the group. You're missing some of your top DPS this week? Well, maybe you won't do XT002 Heart Mode (hyhy), but you're not stuck on him for 2 hours because you can take him out in normal mode and push forward regardless. The raid itself, however, turned out to be too large for its own good, with early bosses burning people out before the "hard stuff" was even on the horizon. And no.. at the end of the day, fighting a boss on a higher difficulty level isn't a new fight and for some people, it simply wasn't that appealing. The final nail to the coffin for Ulduar was the release of ToTC exactly 4 months after 3.1. 16 weeks for the entire tier of this size was blazing speed-- and patch 3.1 ended up being the shortest major patch in Wrath, lasting only 112 days. Yeah, the Colosseum, with like 5 bosses was 2 weeks longer than the whole Ulduar. To give you a bit of perspective, the World First of "Alone in the Darkness" (25) achieved by STARS happened on the 7th of July. And on the 4th of August the next patch dropped. The release in the middle of summer was a kick in the dick for a lot of people anyway... and the fact ICC ended up being the only large-scale raid for 360 DAYS made the shortness of Ulduar oddly suspicious. Was it too good? Was it too large? Was the lore featured in it already in the retcon zone? Was the first ever image of round Azeroth too much to handle for some players? We will never know... Oh, if they're re-desiging some of this stuff, PLEASE, do something with the Dark Edge of Depravity. It carries the name of an iconic C'thun weapon... and it looks like Generic +1 Polearm. kthxbye

[@ThePlatinumx]

like black temple was "unnerfed"

[@JetBen555]

Unless there's a group of people out there who already plan to gear up and stack a bunch dot/channeling class for Yogg0.. I don't think it's gonna be cleared on day 1. Also, a lot of class are practically useless for that fight (mostly because of the last phase)

[@vagabondht5791]

Ulduar fantastic raid wich my guild in wrath finaly cleared about 3 weeks in to the Trial of the Crusader patch before that patch we were having issues on General. But we would get Trial done in 45 minutes and rush back to doing a good raid.

[@7e8dn3id]

Good for you man!

[@ViciousLamp]

My guild is clearing Naxx perfectly fine now, but I seriously think Udluar is going to destroy so many guilds as well as mine so I'm a little worried.

[@holysecret2]

8:20 don't forget though that most guilds who day-1 these new raids are practicing a lot on the PTR. That shouldn't count.

[@Shiirow]

which is why I laugh at people going "lawl easy cleared on day one", because these people were probably playing this shit on private servers clearing this shit for well over a decade along with being on the PTR to familiarize themselves with any changes Blizzard may have made. then you have those who only look at the top sweaty try hard guilds clearing shit within a few hours as some sort of metric for the average player.

[@elementz1236]

@@Shiirow This is how classic has always been, you can always tell who the wrath andys are that skipped out on vanilla and tbc.

[@mcfarvo]

Naxx was fun for me in original WotLK because I hadn't done it in original vanilla, then Ulduar was so much fun! I didn't much care for the Trials pre-ICC though. I quit WoW in 2010 and never came back to "retail."

[@FluffyAbsol]

In the Mountains! That is all.

[@thefaceless3508]

Along the MANY MANY fond memories I have from Ulduar, it will be absolutely great doing something than Naxx for the 100th time and to take on some actually hard hard modes, like sure it wont be like it used to, where the best 01% cleared zero light or something since we are wayyyy better at the game and the average player does so much dps, that not many were able to pull it off during the original, but it will be a definite step up from anything in naxx. Especially the few infamous hard modes.

[@RonOnTheWay]

How do you have 100 clears on Naxx? Are you like the unemployed guy in my guild that raids on 10 characters?

[@thefaceless3508]

@@RonOnTheWay i wasnt actually using the number 100 as a literal ammount, even tho i was sure somone would nitpick on it. but fair to say between the oiginal wotlk, classic and wotlk classic the ammount of naxx clears i have is close to 50, iv done it 14 times on 10 / 25 man combined on wotlk classic alone, and thats in little over 2 months, now add 2years of original wotlk, in which i had more characters than now, and many many resets of classics 40 man. compared to ulduar which iv done 15 years ago for like 3 months

[@SparkGuam]

Ulduar was great, felt like an entire city in there

[@laurynassimonaitis80]

4:30 you're wrong. The first hardmore introduced was Sartharion with 3 drakes.

[@Lintary]

Cleared Ulduar many a time, fun times, frustrating at times to and no not going back, been there, done that go the T-shirt.

[@harvestingseason2725]

So u r not playing wotlk classic?

[@Lintary]

@@harvestingseason2725 I am not, was about to because some friends wanted to and never played it, but things got in the way so I am good where I am.

[@vincentbeton]

Ah Ulduar. As great as it was in general, the fact they made some weird Siege Vehicle Section the Start with no other Paths open to you was so annoying. Could never get the hang of those things

[@fabianschmidt1281]

Stories of other people hyped me much to see ulduar for the first time. and there are all the quests in storm peaks which gives stories around it, i like this much, too. As a blind person i am a bit scared from the first boss. Vehicle fights are unnecessary complicated cause you can not follow in vehicles. For absolut no good reason. Am so useless in last phase of maligos and hope i won't be at ulduar entrance .

[@poopylinklvl1]

Hey, sorry if this seems offensive to ask but how do you play as a blind person? This sounds like an amazing accomplishment.

[@fabianschmidt1281]

@@poopylinklvl1 Question is totally fine :) A very amacing person has builded an addon, which allows to play classic. With speaking menus and bags, being able to build our own auras and handbuilded routes all over the world. We can do most content as indipendent as we want and yes, raiding is totally fine, too.

[@Shane-Buell]

I raided hard mode Ulduar way back in the day, and it was my favorite raid. WotLK was my absolute favorite expansion, with good class balance and tuning in both PvE and PvP, until Cataclysm broke everything.

[@Hammerpowah]

in retail if u don''t clear heroic before next patch releases u probably will have to wait untill u'll be able to solo it bc noone will waste time to do it for loot anymore since u can just go to next raid

[@ShadesApeDJansu]

Christian Finnish Frostiis i've only tried classic back in the day on a private server (Pandaria was already out) and i rememeber being in a finnish guild and gotting to Naxxramas, i was very happy since i got a very "effective" meaning revealing plate armor for my Forsaken female warrior but we never got far. Maybe this time i wont be a lone wolf roaming the BG:s and actually move forward with PVE also :S

[@Adoarer]

Ppl were hyped about Ulduar because it was the actual first new raid in WotlK. New setting, new bosses, new lore, new gear, new mechanics.

[@adrienneladd8375]

Ulduar is so very good and is easily my favorite raid.

[@kengurusafari]

The train ride. It's how I want to ride into heaven.

[@philbert9300]

We killed yogg +4 the Firsttime After ToC Came out. We where super casual but this Boss was the hardmode of all endbosses 😂 it was fun!

[@hishtroymemequez840]

I swear man my all time favorite raids were Dragon Soul and Siege Of Orgrimmar it was so epic

[@blury2558]

We got a massive power boost from the ilvl buffs, so i really doubt it's gonna be all that difficult.

[@Lucarocks92]

Ulduar will always be the GOAT raid of WOW

[@OTPulse]

Ulda wasn't the 1st raid to have various difficulties, though. They did that with Sarth +Drakes, and the idea was even there as far back as ZG with the Priests just no benefit to not killing them. Ulduar was just the 1st main raid to focus on it.

[@Norrieification]

Technically 3 bugs in AQ was the first if we're getting to the source of it all :).

[@Colaschnittchen]

It was the first raid with lots of different hardmodes

[@OTPulse]

@Cola Schnitte Yeh. Just first raid where it was the main core feature over multiple bosses unlike AQ-40 1 random optional boss.

[@Dimumouto]

I remember doing Ulduar10 back in the day. Never cleared Yogg (don't think the guild I was in at the time even downed General), but the memories are still there; having to clear to Flame Leviathan, skipping Razorscale and Ignis, downing HULK HOLOGARN, and then hitting a brickwall with the second half. I think I'll have much more fun this time around, since one, I actually KNOW how to properly play the game instead of just winging it, and two, I'm my guilds 10 man raid lead. I think Ulduar will be difficult for the first few weeks, but as soon as gear rolls in, clears will start getting easier. The playerbase has a LOT more info to work with than back in 2008, so strats and numbers will be figured out before the raid even releases (yay PTR). Not to mention the end of expansion talents and class balancing. Have people hyped up Uludar too much? Maybe. And with it being pre-nerf, maybe not hyped enough, though I hope Blizzard will be SMART about the pre-nerfs and possibly keep some nerfs that make sense from the course of Ulduars life span. Or with the general elevated player skill and knowledge, all hard mode Ulduar fights and Yogg-0 will be downed within the first week.

[@KeoN710]

because this is back before the hardest difficulties were "more dmg=better loot"

[@bmw_fantopdrives5501]

I expect splitruns to gear people week 1, for yogg+0 clears week one

[@SpaceStormy]

Willie where did you find that Ensidia Hodir footage? 6:57

[@remytwotimes4270]

I dodged TBC Raiding, so i’m just really excited for something that’s NOT naxx 😅

[@raiden72]

My favorite raid was Naxxramas...... followed by Ulduar

[@SymbianBlack]

I have a nostalgia love for Naxx 25

[@styxzero1675]

Karazhan > Ulduar for me.

[@vaels5682]

The ilvl buffs will make it a pushover pretty quickly. But first week I expect to be pretty tough for any guilds seeking Death's Demise

[@GoldenDrag123]

WOT LOOKA HYPE WOT LOOKA HYPE WOT LOOKA HYPE WOT LOOKA HYPE WOT LOOKA HYPE

[@kimbo5409]

WOTTLE KUH*

[@fiesbert5677]

Ulduar will be a lo easier. Late in Wrath they intorduced scaling vehicles. Before vehicles had fixed stats. It changed that one dragon-vehicle boss a lot too

[@kaizersmoeller]

Its released in pre nerf State.

[@andromidius]

Full clear of all Hard Modes day one? I'm not so sure this time. Its entirely possible, of course. But this is a step up from what Classic has given us in the past. My suspicion is that 2 minute Hodir and Yogg-0 will be the main hurdles for a full clear. I welcome being proven wrong. But my gut feeling says week two will be the full clear this time. Or at the very least later in the first week as guilds shuffle around compositions to find the right balance. Its not a sure thing - and that makes it an interesting race. Naxx week one was just a case of "who can manage the fastest speed run?" because even the more casual guilds were taking it down in one night - it was just a matter of speed. Ulduar will have wipes, I just know it.

[@elementz1236]

they said the same thing about sunwell (and literally every classic raid so far tbh) and you all get proven wrong every single time.

[@studyofgaming9707]

Fellow Death's Demise and Celestial Defenders, our time is coming.

[@Archermit]

I'm very excited for Ulduar...however, as much as I hope it's a step up in difficulty, with teh GS requirements people look for for T7, I feel most pugs won't be able to form as idiots will require Yogg 0 lights to get into a 10 man pug haha

[@SwedetasticGames]

The only thing that would stop it dying Day 1 is if Yogg has too much health to be (modern skill and knowledge) mathematically unkillable without another reset of gear. I doubt that will happen.

[@danieldiggs9574]

The only reason for Ulduar now is the Summergale Ulduar song.

[@toobles3]

Never got into vanilla Naxx 40, Wrath comes around and it's stupid easy Classic Vanilla comes around, get in for the first time, and only get a singular boss down before the game and guild ended - 1400 DKP to get a useless shard.. good times

[@TyoOlenk]

you are all very excited, but do you know that ulduar still has a long time to release. I think you should enjoy the content before phase 2 comes. don't quit the game just enjoy the content before they blow it up

[@robdabanks]

If they take advantage of Yog's omnipotents across timelines, it'll be cool as hell if they include new voice lines with new mechanics. "You too have looked into the past to see my undoing? You know nothing of the infinite!" Suddenly throws down a unique mechanic the class crowd aren't ready for :P

[@thatrogueguy123]

Why do you do the shots with the weird rectangle?

[@tgsvhedasda5785]

the best raids were the first time experiences in classic classic 18 years ago molten core bwl first time experience that time was just different

[@General12th]

Hi Will!

[@Infernoblade1010]

PHASE 2 HYPE PHASE 2 HYPE!!!!

[@dantemand3068]

Gear is buffed to ridiculous levels but boss values stay the same. Are they having a stroke designing this?

[@BigHeadClan]

I actually think pre nerf Ulduar won’t be a one day clear. The number of cheese mechanics available are fewer in wrath as are the benefits of class stacking. My guild was a notable NA guilds during og Wrath (Engina) and we never managed pre nerf yogg zero. The later hard mode fights like Mimiron, general and Yogg Zero are a step or two above the rest in terms of difficulty. So yeah I’m putting my money on the clear taking one or two weeks. Assuming there isn’t a cheese strat or exploit found to do it day one from ptr testing.

[@CCProofPlayer]

3.3 talents and class balance makes pre nerf ulduar easy. If you factor in the raise in ilvl, it will be even easier.

[@peterwanker5015]

Dude i fudging looked on youtube twice to see why ulduar is regarded as the ‘best’ raid and no one had a video on it…. Thanks

[@TastyScotch]

With the raid being up so long on PTR and not really seeing any changes, i forsee everything dying week 1, even 0 light yogg. That being said us normies will probably take a few weeks before having yogg 0 and algalon on farm 😂 im excited for ulduar bc although i cleared it back in the day, work/life changes made it very stressful and i ended up quitting shortly after ToC released.

[@ashrasmun1]

As with all the things that people hype beyond reason, Ulduar will be ok, but for many it won't be the experience they expected

[@TakaChan569]

Is it the best no kara will always hold #1 spot for me, but Ulduar was really nice and had good difficulty with only 2 bosses that were a pain on hardmode

[@wcg6857]

Played ulduar ptr today - was not a fucking joke

[@Erati243]

LOL i like how everyone is saying "omg it was the best raid ever!" It is remembered as great because it was like 2 months long and than guild would begrudgingly return occasionally to try to get more shit to make another valynar.... wait til this version when it is left pre nerf and the tier last 5 months than come back here and tell me how much you still love it.

[@1000yearswordling]

7:39 Kripp spotted

[@Halibel764]

Everyone is hyping because everyone wants to be that man that presses the big red button.

[@mr.anderson2257]

Didn't the dev say it was going to be 2 minutes ? Also it definitely be cleared day 1 because of ptr. Ptr ruins world first race. It becomes a speed race and not a progression race.

[@j325]

Looking forward to Ulduar but for me SWP or final T5 TBC bosses were the peak. M’uru was so fun, especially as a warlock

[@razz_s2]

great video pog

[@edmontonlivermoore4935]

Classic’s best raid was BWL, TBC got Kara, and WoTLK got Ulduar. It’ll be all downhill once Trial starts lol

[@grafspe807]

In speaking of Naxx 40 you speak of many more ppl seeing it this time around but also take in to account that the biggest end of ppl playing wow started in TBC/Wrath and those ppl all saw Naxx in Wrath . Sure it was not the 40 man stuff out side of numbers its the same place . So yea ppl know this raid

[@xptlv]

Even in classic, there are several types of guilds... yes, obviously they all more or less clear the raids but... For example - guilds that clear MC in 4 hours, or in 2 hours or in 58 minutes... Guilds that clear the new raid day 1 or day 2 or day 5 or week 2.... Even tho the difficulty obviously is on par with retail, its the speed that matters, nobody wants to do 14 year old content 4 hours, so even tho, the difficulty is small, challenges are still found, just because you cleared a raid, doesnt mean you did it easily... like said, doing MC for 4 hours, not rly enjoyable or fun or skillful.

[@wotwathorigl5446]

tbh i prefer trial of the crusader over ulduar but maybe thats just me

[@bikespj22]

The disparity is already happening. People do no drakes to 3 drakes. It will without a doubt continue to ulduar.

[@Accelerate55]

Had to quit wrath classic. Dead pvp servers with one sided pops and nothing to do besides completionism got the best of me. Boy do I miss Classic with healthy servers, haven’t seen a hordie since mid tbc.

[@feo130]

I highly recommend Everlook. It's the only private server I have played since Classic released that has sustained a healthy population. Having an absolute blast over there. Wrath was never good...it's retail-lite with none of the challenging content or QoL.

[@Accelerate55]

@@feo130 it is indeed retail like. Thing about pservers is the lack of long term maintenance that gets me… don’t want to lose my chars. I’ll wait and see what blizzard does after wrath, hoping for Classic fresh.

[@pumpkiiin]

@@feo130 everlook will be dead in a month or so

[@icebox1954]

@@Accelerate55 Nah, we need Cataclysm after WoTLK. No more 25 man raiding with quiet coms but instead a lively 10 man where everybody knows each other well and bounce off each other's energy.

[@Accelerate55]

@@icebox1954 not going down that road again.

[@CG-eh6oe]

I missed Ulduar when it launched, not playing that much at the time. A few months later, when this horrible colloseum raid was out, i found a group that wanted to clear ulduar just for fun and it was AMAZING. Probably the best raiding evening i have had in 5+years of WoW. Its just all so beautiful, the trash is even kinda fun to clear, it FEELS like you are a group of heros going into an enemy fortress...

[@narmale]

forget classic... come to warmane PS... its 30% harder than retail, its great!

[@greatvalue1337]

Am I the only person who remembers ulduar as the raid with the most trash to clear out of every raid I've ever done? Sure the bosses are great and it looks good. But fuck after so many weeks clearing the trash takes its toll.

[@bmw_fantopdrives5501]

Its Not that much Trash

[@greatvalue1337]

@@bmw_fantopdrives5501 in full ICC gear my guild can clear icc25m hc in an hour an 10 minutes on average. Our fastest run was about 1 hour. With that gear we still can't clear ulduar that fast

[@WhipLash42o]

I'm excited for Ulduar because the current raids are mind numbingly boring.

[@Zantetsudex]

They honestly should have stuck on and built upon this model instead of introducing artificially harder difficulties like heroic and mythic.

[@SUpahh100]

This will be a first for me.