Why is it hard for Retailers to Make Money? My New Trading Approach

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Dive into the basics of swing trading, understanding key strategies, risk management, and technical analysis. Whether you're a beginner or looking to refine your skills, this video has you covered. Start making informed decisions and maximizing your profits in the dynamic world of swing trading.
Note: This is only for educational purpose, please consult your financial advisor before any doing any transactions in the market
00:00 Introduction
01:25 My Nifty Trade
03:35 Option Trading Evolution
06:20 Why Retailers Lose?
14:50 How I am Trading Now

[@Danielfreeman-nr2xc]

It seems like a solid way to generate extra income, but I wonder how it would affect one's portfolio in the long run.

[@Sarahkidz]

I've dabbled in covered call trading before. It can be lucrative, but if not planned well, it could lead to significant losses, especially in a volatile market.

[@DlostZhip]

Plus, considering the current global economy, it's essential to be cautious. Economic downturns or geopolitical events can greatly impact the effectiveness of this strategy.

[@t-gg7vgs]

The problem is that you don't have the knowledge needed to succeed in a challenging market. Only highly qualified professionals who had to experience the 2008 financial crisis could hope to earn a high salary in these challenging conditions

[@Hoodiesgooners]

Recently, I've been considering the possibility of speaking with consultants. I need guidance because I'm an adult, but I'm not sure if their services would be all that helpful.

[@Sarahkidz]

Well, there are a few out there who know what they are doing. I tried a few in the past years, but I've been with Desiree Ruth Hoffman for the last five years or so, and her returns have been pretty much amazing.

[@jamestseng1914]

22% return yearly target with so much risk then better invest in smallcap index

[@user-fp5dl9ct8p]

Agree, not only risk, tension, irritation and finally health issue

[@adityauphade5918]

I think the concern is traders won't be getting a consistent return on that. We will need to be okay with not couple of months but couple of years of drawdown. Smallcap index was underperforming from 2012 to 2018 & the CAGR in this period was not above 20% The benefit of trading is we will. ideally be able to generate a consistent return of 24% or more.

[@VenuGopal-rt5zk]

P​@@adityauphade5918

[@Techguidein]

😂😂​@@adityauphade5918

[@Name-qf6lr]

You think that the smallcap rally will continue? Smallcaps have performed good in the 5 year window before that it was heavily underperforming. Smallcaps will not consistently give you 24% CAGR if the market crashes small caps will crash 4 times as much as the large caps.

[@ayushkamboj3742]

April was indeed haunting as an option seller. All Nifty Expiries went in loss. Option spikes have destroyed intraday selling. I am thinking to not even do positional. I mean what is even the point now? So much hassle for what? 20-30% a year. I feel it’s just better to identify good stocks and try swing trading.

[@Arun123-w2x]

Stock is very risky. Sometimes it falls 2 or 3% in a day. That loss will be heavier than options strategies. I do it in index ETF

[@goutamroy8485]

Thanks for the insight. U r really very honest guy. Thank a ton for sharing these deep in the money ITM knowledge 🙏🙏🙏

[@balachandranramasamy1731]

Keep advising retail traders. You are doing an excellent job

[@padma2023]

Better to invest rather than trading for just 24% per annum with trading.

[@tsraju1977]

I appreciate your work, but I think in this low VIX environment with low intrinsic value of options, you should some times step out of option seller shoes and try to be option buyer, deep in the money option with delta = 1, will give good returns with a directional bias. There is a perception that option prices melt like ice cream, but with low IV's not Ice cream, we can compare with pastry cake. I also think that most of the Market movements happen 1 hour after opening and 1 hour before closing, having positions in the market all the day will not help. Most of spikes in the market happen in the middle of trading day, the Jane street guys will collect the data based on open positions and attack.

[@HarshDeepSingh-ic1qi]

00:01 Retailers are finding it challenging to make money due to increased volatility in the market. 02:06 Unexpected market jump caused significant trading losses 04:06 Increased competition in option selling leading to diminishing profits 06:19 Large institutions can trigger stop losses by moving prices strategically. 08:42 Jane Street - a hedge fund with $300 billion under management, $15 billion used for trading. 10:49 High-speed trading gives big players huge market manipulation opportunities 12:57 Adapt your trading style to changing market conditions 15:04 Adopting 1 DTE or positional trading for diversified and fully hedged index trades. 17:22 Implementing a stress-free trading approach with limited losses. 19:29 Utilizing small opportunities to make incremental gains in trading options.

[@CosmosChill7649]

India is best place for all these scamsters to practice

[@Trading4Life]

Problem with far otm sellers is that they try to earn 2rs risking 4 or even 5 rupees. Making 2 rs is still easier with atm or near otm options. Positional will always work because ultimately it boils down to fundamentals and economy. With little bit of technical knowledge and sense of market direction, making 10% a month is also easy game. I earned 132 points in expiring sensex and 64 points in nifty today. This wouldn’t have been possible in far otm.

[@kp6074]

if your target is to earn 2% a month i’ll suggest you to do monthly calendar trade and hold it for whole month… it’s really stressfree and you’ll be getting success around 8-9 times with 3-6% profit making it more than 2% a month avg

[@geg375]

With the election season this also is a big risk

[@rohankumbharkar5591]

I'm planning to do calendar spread but waiting for election results

[@sandybjoshi]

After the election results calendar spread is a good choice but one question is which index is best for calendar spread Nifty or Bank Nifty

[@srinivasbpos1993]

Awesome Detailed Video #Saketh.... Keep up the great work... 😍😍

[@sakethr]

Thank you sir

[@mohanraj8167]

Thank you.bro Same I also lost entire 25 k previous month profit only in 3 trading days in april option selling. Now changed to positional far away instead of expiry day

[@anuragvarshney6892]

Exactly same for me, lost 25k in April.. I now use hedged trades like iron fly but profit is not coming

[@ZPFash]

@@anuragvarshney6892 i made 15k. lol

[@Chanakya0075]

I stopped trading the current expiry and shifted monthly or next month options only. April green for me.. and it's giving me so much peace... Because the next OTM options are less Vega, and not move much. I do directional trading

[@lavista4u]

its called STOP LOSS HUNTING, i see this often in US markets as well, its a software that FII uses to track all Stop Loss and then bring the price to that level, it happens all the time in Forex markets in America, i'm now seeing this in India now since 2024, bad times ahead, change your strategy every couple of months, Stop Loss Hunting WONT STOP, even if you place your stop loss far far further, they use Price Spike which saket is explaining

[@SACHIN7-]

​@@anuragvarshney6892 Will not work ironfly . Every day market moving 300 points

[@lavista4u]

its called stop loss hunting which FII do it quite regularly in US markets, they are using the same software which they use in America, I see this quite often in US markets as well

[@VishalSingh-dv2vg]

If can't make money its doesn't mean that no one can make.

[@aadityamehta587]

in positional option selling how will you be managing huge gap ups and huge gap down even that can put you back 4-5% in a day

[@AyushSharma-iw7ms]

i guess you can tackle the spike problem by shorting deep itm or itm options ? they dont spike as much

[@santhoshKumar-uu7po]

Good information ,worth of watching this video 🎉

[@turyaturya1647]

people talk lile fully hedged means zero loss strategy what fucks yeah , it means loss on both sides

[@Arun123-w2x]

As you said markets behaviour have been changing which means backtest is useless and foolishness and trading is gambling that's fact. Only risk management will reduce loss or it may help to make profit. The fact is sellers can make 2% only because the risk reward is 1:1. To make more profit we need 1:2 risk reward with 50% probability of profit. This payoff no buyer or seller will get. If we make 1:2 spreads, the pop will be 33% which is equal to 1:1 RR with 50% pop. We can not beat mathematics

[@vinodvaranasi]

Excellent content and good observation, Thank you

[@POWERSOURCE-ml2jv]

Nothing new in this video😢

[@Demandsupplyzone]

Try demand supply zones you feel all new in that

[@GuruFinvasiw]

If you have hit by stoploss jump then you will know its importance

[@Logicalbets]

Always trying to help like minded people, good job 👍

[@ALLINONE-jn5sz]

Exactly same happened with me bro …was short at 22100 pe and it went almost 300 once ended up loosing 2.5 %…Thank god hedges saved me that day😊

[@sivakumarnhv2202]

Do you adjust your position once it reaches breakeven or when it reaches a particular strategy reaches some % of the loss let's say we execute 1000 points away on both sides 48200pe at 90rs premium and 50200 Ce 90 then the overall premium will be 180 rs. if we wait till the break-even to adjust the position one side's premium will reduce by 90 to 30 rs but on the other side it would be 1000+ points then the loss will be 8 to 10 times then the defined profit and if we start the adjustment for a weekly option close to exp. we do not get a premium to firefight. If we put SL as you told it hunts the SL. Please explain how to manage when we do weekly options

[@aashishkumar9313]

good information saketh...... thanks for all these valuable details.

[@venkatesannatesan6357]

Very good decision you have made...and it will useful for long term basis

[@prashanthgouda1997]

Hi Saketh please answer to this... When there is sudden spike.. in fintarget also, is there possibility of missing stoploss hit. In this scenario if we set overall MTM stoploss, will it hit without missing

[@tradingzone3605]

Now seller is increased drastically in market and market knows it well..That's why kicked out all retail option seller..

[@SumitKumar-gh3fp]

Saketh thanks but i wanted to ask for nifty you are taking position 2 DTE and Banknifty 8 DTE why such difference?

[@Hrudaipabbisetty]

From what i see in the past 1-2 years markets can fall 1-2% easily in no time resulting in huge spikes in put options. But I have never seen call options spiking like put options. Short covering is definitely possible but that happens slowly and chances of slippage is almost 0.(correct me if I am wrong). Why can't we simply sell call options on 0 dte which are 1-1.5% away from the spot price? @saketh pls reply need your inputs on this

[@geg375]

Had the same experience. Seems we need to keep 50% capital spare until 12 noon and use the ladder approach

[@mohanakrishna1766]

Thankyou for your insights brother🙌🏻. Really appreciate your effort in the community 😇

[@sakethr]

Thank you

[@manivannan8531]

Bro, how will the price go up when the pending orders not executed (your stop loss).. if it happens exchange is problem!

[@abhratanupal1898]

Bro, in current scenario, option selling is very risky, additionally thrre is no point in getting just 20-22% yearly with so much tension.

[@essar25]

Have you tried selling deep ITM options (with some time value), both sides?

[@kevalkumar9694]

Very useful. Can you make a video on Stocks Future buying for Investment in Nifty 50 stocks month on month and sell by hedging of Nifty or Bank Nifty or any other stock if seems in down turn (and how to decide its down turn)

[@PremKumar-lo2fy]

Welcome saketh, hope u build this channel like optionables

[@sakethr]

Thank you for the support

[@Someone-xd9gv]

Nice bro , Could you do a logic video for BTST , like on what basis it works

[@bestmchen1]

Only idiiotss dream profit in trading

[@Ganesh91171]

Thank you saketh😊❤

[@sakethr]

Thank you 😁

[@vishwa7777777]

How much percentage is a good return in Equity Intraday trading. Please enlighten us

[@ravindran100]

Thanks for sharing, am also shifting to positional 0 DTE r:r is not good with the spikes

[@Mritu101]

Saketh what do you think of trading stock options positionally?

[@kss6176]

Sir but market wide position limit for an entity is 500cr please explain.

[@kp6074]

what’s your adjustments, make a complete video

[@mygameworld4343]

Hi saketh As per observation of your trading Your are doing some entertain trade Those effect you on a long run

[@ashishkandpal7107]

you are absolutely right i am also a big player

[@Trumpfever]

what is your capital sir?

[@helloabs2134]

​@@Trumpfever$100 Billion! But he does paper trades only 😂

[@tejaswadubey]

Very good approach

[@user-zr5pw4ko6p]

Not able to use pledged margin for positional is the biggest pain 😥

[@anuragvarshney6892]

Do you square your positions one day before expiry?

[@mujiburrehman1426]

God bless you ,man

[@eventsofdalalstreet7833]

How do you do strangle adjustment

[@yashawanthramaswamy1249]

What is the name of anime on his laptop

[@rajsinghdecals7066]

If stoploss come then take it i take 16 trade per month with 1:1 rr targeting 2 percent . Imake profit in 11 trade losing 5 making an average of 10 percent per month 😊😊

[@amnsbharath]

Excellant content

[@nagumn007]

Very nice Saketh

[@venutube5791]

It’s not worth doing just for 18 to 24 pc annum. The mistake is that we all stick to one trade practice and showing over confidence finally getting the SL hit. The moment you see one or 2% profit, just exit. Don’t wait for it become 0 . You never know where spikes will come. I’m doing in stocks positional although very small qnty, but making 7 to 8 pc per month without headaches

[@anuragvarshney6892]

Swing trading needs extra money if your stock starts going in loss..money stucks in that.. gapdown is biggest enemy...

[@shafai100]

What about crude oil , natural gas, gold, silver , stock, currency... can't we do option selling there..... diversification is what is needed in trading for lower dd

[@bestmchen1]

Only idiiotss dream profit in trading

[@catsnchaos]

It's only a problem if you are an option seller, I think its a "you" problem

[@raynananwani9758]

Sir how to be able to contact you personally? thank you Sir

[@Kritant_trader]

Very insightful video

[@sakethr]

Thank you

[@anuragvarshney6892]

What about stock options?

[@ramanandarshan6583]

I think if we can capture even about 30-40% of the spike, there could be decent gain as a buyer

[@bestmchen1]

Only idiiotss dream profit in trading

[@kunjansp23]

I don't agree with u that age old methods are not working. I am using some strategies for last 3 years & today also they are giving good returns. Important is risk management & consistency. Why retail traders don't make money is because of these 2 things

[@CosmosChill7649]

Not only Jane Street. Even retailers have become unprofitable since last year. Why are they blaming employees?

[@varun6525]

why dnt u keep 30-40rs diff

[@anuragvarshney6892]

I have on suggestion..if we keep 10 rs gap between trigger and limit price in stop loss settings, will it help?

[@kunaldhadse7722]

Don't do that, your order will be cancelled by the exchange because of Limit Price Protection. It is more riskier than SL order getting jumped.

[@vinaymr5506]

Is there anyways of contacting you personally

[@krishagartala09]

please make video on algo trading for this market.

[@mayurgori]

Share ur stretegy on swing trade on stocks

[@SPSajjan]

Really eye opening eye 👀

[@sakethr]

Thank you

[@kamaldhanjal86]

1st comment thanks

[@sakethr]

🙌🏼

[@rajinderpalsingh7097]

good video.

[@sakethr]

Thanks!

[@rahulwagh9481]

24% a year with better Taxation can be managed peacefully with Mutual and Index Funds.

[@charanraj6889]

Do you conduct class????

[@anildudani5371]

Good video I suggest u do ration spread for good returns

[@how-todo6414]

What is ration spread.

[@SACHIN7-]

​@@how-todo6414may be ratio spread

[@mamidisettivenugopalarao1648]

Hai saketh are you still holding SULA YIEN YARDS ?

[@sakethr]

Yes

[@amitabhshukla5950]

Wonderful

[@VaraPrasad-jh5fn]

Is that 2600 or 22600

[@Happy-0007fyq]

Your strategy is. Not making sense

[@anandradhakrishnan1302]

Everything goes in cycles. Next decade is for the james bond type option buyer.

[@chinthala2245]

Hi saketh, whether the first stock broker is allowing 100% collateral margin for positional trading without any intrest. But zerodha need minimum 50% cash for positional trade. Could you please confirm form first stock how will be

[@pradeepa4522]

Saketh, good sticker of Gogeta. Brings back all those good memories😊

[@aravinndsingh1]

V bad or avg returns for the kind of business this is. Skilled Scalpers are def the emperors in the market.

[@rahulnag4185]

Same content was uploaded on Pr sunder sir video

[@muralivenkatakrishnan]

It's not the same but similar......

[@xmatterdaily]

If you cant beat the Juggernaut then be the Juggernaut. - Hedge Funds

[@divotiontogod]

you should suggest someting for low capital investors like me who are loing lots of money in fno if you can i subscribe and give you blessings

[@dnyandev5976]

its not fair playing; SEBI should do some thing against this unfair practice

[@manjappakaramadi2871]

ಗುರು ನೀವು ನಿಮ್ಮ್ ವಿಡಿಯೋ ನ ಕನ್ನಡ dalli ಮಾಡಿ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಬರಲ್ಲ ಅದಕ್ಕೇ

[@HowtoTV2u]

Who told u Saketh retailers are not making money ??

[@sakethr]

SEBI. Atleast 90% Lose

[@Mychoice2210]

DTE means wat

[@rohankumbharkar5591]

Days to expiry

[@vickboss6751]

Copy content from pr sundar

[@nishalantony1135]

April fool.. He is still thinking we don't know anything.. Simply waste of time😂😂

[@rameshprabhu9883]

If you got guts post ur 1 week trading video

[@VishalSingh-dv2vg]

How can a course seller will know trading 😂😂

[@k.r.venkatacham9748]

Copy cat..copy cat .why? PR Sundar told same in his video before 3 weeks..why you are like this?

[@arnavrai6866]

Junior p r sundar

[@rohitgmrit]

After all, the house always wins.

[@sakethr]

Yes😅

[@Nandakumar24]

Now also you are in trouble 😅

[@Stockanalysis_marketminds]

So, hence, proved trading is also a gambling

[@user-dr2vp2fb1u]

PR sundar ki video copy