Why is jjk vs mha an argument?

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@roroo
@roroo 2 ай бұрын
I think they’re wildly different, but they are compared because they’re both shounen animes. MHA is a more emotional series because Horikoshi spent a LOT more time developing the characters, showing us their motivations, backstories, and overall had more chapters focused on the characters rather than the fighting, kinda long pacing but it pays out because many fans of the series want to see that development, want to see the characters outside of a war. In MHA you already know that the good guys are gonna win, there’s no “real” stakes, main characters are never killed, I will say it’s “lighter” not with it’s themes but it’s digestability, it’s very clear it’s meant for young teenagers which doesn’t mean it’s BAD, it can just be harder to connect with the story because it’s not as deep or eventful as older fans might like. I think MHA did shounen right though, clear story and clear morals it shows throughout the series. JJK on the other hand, is a much darker series willing to take jumps that we didn’t know were possible for shounens until we got our hopes and dreams crushed weekly by Gege 😂 He doesn’t develop much on his characters until they’re about to die or dying.. it’s much more focused on action and fighting, not afraid to kill off fan favorites, showing the darker side of emotions in battle like mental health and depression. It still is an emotional series but I believe Gege writes for the plot, not for true connection with the characters. He wants to see the MC jumping the villains, he wants to see the MC getting jumped. There are bits and pieces here and there of messages like Choso and Todo’s whole brother thing/fighting for family, Megumi’s depression, Gojo’s past arc, etc. that do show more emotional sides of our characters but it’s never a MAIN plot device, just there to connect parts of a story. It definitely appeals to at least an older teenage audience with it’s themes and you’ll find yourself thinking the good guys might lose on multiple occasions. I personally felt like JJK had much more stakes than MHA did. Similarities between the two are skin deep. They both have sunshine MC’s who want to save people, they both have lots of fights again villains, they both go into full scale wars in their series, with the main big bad being evil just to be evil, but that’s really where it stops. Their execution is WILDLY different and appeals to two different audiences if we’re considering actually sticking with the manga all the way through. I don’t think a younger person would stick JJK all the way through considering it can be confusing at times, it might be easier for them to stick MHA through because of its tell all approach. And vice versa, an older person might drop MHA or consider it “bad” just because it’s not as brooding as JJK is, and they would enjoy JJK because of the more complicated plot line and liberties it takes. They’re both good series and are popular for that reason, I don’t know why haters complain considering both mangakas making more than us at any given point 😂 I will say tho the JJK fandom is almost like the MHA fandom in its prime back in 2020 (🙋🏽‍♀️ guilty of being a part of it), the Gojo tampon incident reminded me of the Bakugou poster incident, like you said we both have our bad apples that unfortunately take the face of the community… but if you find non lobotomized fans of each we’re really not that bad Sorry if my comment is a yap fest, I enjoyed this video and it got me thinking since I never really compared them before 😂 keep posting man!
@gwyneth339
@gwyneth339 2 ай бұрын
You're so right
@Lion12love19
@Lion12love19 2 ай бұрын
You came to spit facts brilliant.
@davidakin3840
@davidakin3840 2 ай бұрын
jjk has easily top 3 best anime adaptions of all time. animation and sound track is unmatched by most with ufotable being only exception. but from an an objective writing and manga art standpoint mha is better but jjk has that action element that jame bond and jackie chan energy that is unmatched by most shonen anime. if mha was animated by mappa or ufotable then it would be a different convo for sure, cause it would be one sided mha praise but it aight.
@drivergoku8510
@drivergoku8510 2 ай бұрын
Both JJK and MHA are good mangas. We need to stop comparing
@bipolerbear
@bipolerbear 2 ай бұрын
Most same argument I’ve seen
@UltraIDDQD6DOOM
@UltraIDDQD6DOOM 2 ай бұрын
Literally
@danielg.9075
@danielg.9075 2 ай бұрын
It's like a fixed and failed obssesion to compare stuff. We can compare and contrast and still appreciate each story for what they do independently, just in balance. But this is like from fans that go back to "who is the strongest of the big three? Don't matter cause they can't beat Goku 😐"
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
Only JJK is good
@paleospino4956
@paleospino4956 2 ай бұрын
@@ricky-chinaudio Both are good man.
@gwyneth339
@gwyneth339 2 ай бұрын
I can't really compare them. They're 2 different mangas. Mha makes me more interested and emotional for the characters. JJK makes me more interested in the plot/story/themes. The story of MHA is although interesting, not something i really cared about as much as the characters. For JJK, I've invested more time in understanding what Gege is trying to tell me through his manga. In his storytelling than his characters (even though i like them too and Yuji is my fav character). I like the serious tone in jjk and I also love how corny MHA is. I love how different/opposite both stories are to each other. I love diving deep into Gege's writing and uncovering the clues he left so we can unravel his story. And i love how Horikoshi writes his characters. The struggles his characters face and the hope that shines through his story. And superheroes! Who doesn't love a superhero stroy? I seriously hate how both communities try to tear the other down. It's exhausting at this point.
@shdhdhdhd6630
@shdhdhdhd6630 2 ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly. It gets annoying seeing it, like could we all just move on from it, love both series as they are, also not be assholes to each other. I’m sick of it
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
Mid hero academia was trash
@TheShakeship
@TheShakeship Ай бұрын
JJK is just cool fights. I have no clue wtf is happening in the plot.
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio Ай бұрын
@@TheShakeship Still has better plot than Mid hero academia
@gwyneth339
@gwyneth339 Ай бұрын
@@TheShakeship Bro It's not just fights what are you on? Are you not reading the story? Simplified version, JJK is about love. It's fighting an oppressive system with love and community. The old v.s the new.
@riakifgc
@riakifgc 3 ай бұрын
My boi talking his talk and I’m here for it
@Dontworryboutit61944
@Dontworryboutit61944 2 ай бұрын
Advice: change the screen fam I’m not tryna stare at a white bear the whole time just put clips of both of the anime’s to hold attention
@SHAWNJX
@SHAWNJX 2 ай бұрын
Bro what? Do something else while it plays in the background
@Dontworryboutit61944
@Dontworryboutit61944 2 ай бұрын
I’m saying not everyone gonna do that to bring in more people and keep attention the creator should do that
@SHAWNJX
@SHAWNJX 2 ай бұрын
@@Dontworryboutit61944 I hear you but podcasts have still images all the time and they are way longer
@lehothaiduong4363
@lehothaiduong4363 2 ай бұрын
​@@SHAWNJXNo hate but adding more clips or relevant images can greatly improve the video quality. It's not that hard, just take time and effort
@IAloneAmTheYapper
@IAloneAmTheYapper 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@Krispy-Klips
@Krispy-Klips 2 ай бұрын
i like it when deku punches the guy...
@bipolerbear
@bipolerbear 2 ай бұрын
Me too
@zhavierbrown4422
@zhavierbrown4422 2 ай бұрын
Comparison is the thief of joy.Keep doing it and it becomes pointless.If I talk with someone which is better Mha or Jjk neither of us are changing our initial opinions cause why would we?
@shdhdhdhd6630
@shdhdhdhd6630 2 ай бұрын
This was genuinely a good video. Thanks for making it I feel like this is needed rn in these times. Keep it up 👏🙌
@soul8648
@soul8648 2 ай бұрын
the reason why people compare these two is quite simple really. And the reason is the war arc and how Jujutsu Kaisen is the war arc that My Hero Academia should have been. As besides Midnight and Twice, we don't really see a major death that pushes the character to the core (in this case being Izuku and Yuji). Also, the animation and the "blue sky" as well. But honestly, I don't really care. I like both series and while yes, My Hero Academia DOES lack in deaths, it is NOT what the anime is focused on. And power scalers also are issues with this with toxic fans of My Hero Academia
@eduardopantoja9115
@eduardopantoja9115 2 ай бұрын
My thought process is why conpare the series. One deals with heroes and the other is more paranormal. Doesn't it make more sense to compare JJK to Chainsaw mam and My hero academia to one punch man?
@soul8648
@soul8648 2 ай бұрын
@@eduardopantoja9115 My hero academia to one punch man should be the case cause of the themes but jjk and mha has no connections besides war arc
@wswann34
@wswann34 2 ай бұрын
U don't need deaths for a good story buddy open your mind. JJK tried it and it's becoming a downfall because of characters like nobara and Yuki being wasted
@soul8648
@soul8648 2 ай бұрын
@@wswann34 I know that and agree 100%, it's just what some people didn't like in MHA that no one really died besides Nighteye, Midnight and twice anime so far. In the manga no spoilers, but I know
@soul8648
@soul8648 2 ай бұрын
@@wswann34 I just meant that as in what others want
@mello7535
@mello7535 2 ай бұрын
For ppl who say JJK has bad writing are the same ppl who speed read the chapters and don’t understand a thing Only looking at it for its fights which it is known for ofc But there are themes and deeper messages explored in the characters
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 2 ай бұрын
The point is that it has a shit load of wasted potential. Gege sacrificed storytelling for plotless fights. Tokyo revengers has legit better character development💀.
@FAXEDITzs179
@FAXEDITzs179 2 ай бұрын
What bro yapping about ??​@@uwayn9829
@myherobeaste7
@myherobeaste7 2 ай бұрын
Y’all are literally proving this dudes point in the comments 😅
@danielg.9075
@danielg.9075 2 ай бұрын
You really cooked on this video, MR. HEAD CHEFF 💯
@roroo
@roroo 2 ай бұрын
“Why are they speaking for… why are they speaking?” 😂😂😂
@ethanmario1570
@ethanmario1570 Ай бұрын
comments are literally still comparing them 😭
@minimumwage2169
@minimumwage2169 2 ай бұрын
We can't compare them anymore. Both are ending. One is falling off a cliff and one is peaking.
@davidakin3840
@davidakin3840 2 ай бұрын
jjk has easily top 3 best anime adaptions of all time. animation and sound track is unmatched by most with ufotable being only exception. but from an an objective writing and manga art standpoint mha is better but jjk has that action element that jame bond and jackie chan energy that is unmatched by most shonen anime. if mha was animated by mappa or ufotable then it would be a different convo for sure, cause it would be one sided mha praise but it aight.
@elijahedwards5360
@elijahedwards5360 2 ай бұрын
I really don't know why they're being compared, especially when one is obviously better
@chideraumejiaku3895
@chideraumejiaku3895 2 ай бұрын
Yh... obviously my hero
@elijahedwards5360
@elijahedwards5360 2 ай бұрын
@@chideraumejiaku3895 no 💀
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 2 ай бұрын
@@elijahedwards5360bro i honestly can’t find one category in which jjk is better than mha. Popularity, manga, anime, writing, impact, idk you don’t seem to have read mha, only jjk
@elijahedwards5360
@elijahedwards5360 2 ай бұрын
@@uwayn9829 you gotta be trolling 💀 JJK is more popular, has better more consistent manga art, obviously has better animation, completely fucking clears in writing, has impacted anime in the mainstream media in ways only seen since the big three (multi fucking A list celebrities has gone on record liking JJK), you'd have to be deaf, blind, stupid, and living under a rock to say any of the shit you just said.
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
JJK is better in everything except art
@Melv1i
@Melv1i 2 ай бұрын
Yk I actually agree with most of this video. But to be fair I myself am a fan of both series and I love to see how both dumb heads fight off each other
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 2 ай бұрын
You could compare them as to say how they managed to stay true to their themes, storyline and characters. In this sense its obvious mha has relatively succeeded while jjk post shibuya sacrificed character development and depth for what seems, alot of the time, surface level near plotless fight scenes. Tho i would say is kind of getting back up now and making use of its relevant elements.
@FriedMomo04
@FriedMomo04 2 ай бұрын
Characters are pretty lackluster and wasted in jjk and I'm sure i'm not the only one who doesn't understand the power system, fights are hype af Mha has much more fleshed out characters and is quite wholesome Slows down a bit midway but the later arcs were incredible Deku is not the best mc and not the worst either I'd give him a 5 out of 10 Yuji a 6 So personally I like mha more
@Nahidwash
@Nahidwash 2 ай бұрын
Fr jjk is obviously better
@khi3046
@khi3046 2 ай бұрын
You missed the whole point of the video dingus
@Nahidwash
@Nahidwash 2 ай бұрын
@@khi3046 you missed the whole point of the video dingus🤓☝️
@thegreatestoctopus9739
@thegreatestoctopus9739 2 ай бұрын
​@@Nahidwashyes you did dingus
@ÆVERYGAYZ
@ÆVERYGAYZ 2 ай бұрын
Bro did not watch the video 💀
@bruh-nq5px
@bruh-nq5px 2 ай бұрын
The two goats of newgen are jjk and csm. Mha will be forgotten pretty quick
@Thedoorway123
@Thedoorway123 2 ай бұрын
Yet it literally has more sales lmao
@GooseStar
@GooseStar 2 ай бұрын
Chainsaw man won't be there if they don't make the movie and season 2 soon 😢
@jamonrandomstuff4294
@jamonrandomstuff4294 2 ай бұрын
Top ten sales rn and it’s barely a decade old
@GooseStar
@GooseStar 2 ай бұрын
@jamonrandomstuff4294 I love chainsaw man I'm just saying I feel like normal anime watchers are going to stop caring about it unless more is animated soon
@bruh-nq5px
@bruh-nq5px 2 ай бұрын
@@Thedoorway123 and yet go speak to people in the real world outside of your incel echo chambers and nobody knows mha
@Blaze57420
@Blaze57420 2 ай бұрын
Jjk is better than mha. Mha: amazing premise, horrible payoff Jjk: fast and subtle build-up and FANTASTIC payoff. One will disappoint you, and the other won't.
@lehothaiduong4363
@lehothaiduong4363 2 ай бұрын
Jjk has great ideas but it often has horrible execution. Not saying JJK is bad but it could be better
@Thedoorway123
@Thedoorway123 2 ай бұрын
What payoff does jujutsu kaisen have 😂
@silvermatter1739
@silvermatter1739 2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure the only payoff I’ve really seen in Jjk is mahito getting his ass beat, and even then Kenny kinda stole that. Not saying jjks bad but it has its problems
@Blaze57420
@Blaze57420 2 ай бұрын
@@silvermatter1739 Gojo's sealing is a payoff to them, mentioning it several times earlier in the story. Megumi's domain and win against the fingerbearer is payoff to sukuna saying megumi could've done so in the first arc. Eso and kechisu, payoff the entire choso fight, and then later a payoff to choso's mental breakdown and fake memories in the noritochi kamo reveal. A payoff to mahito's speach halfway into his fight with yuji about them being the same, "I AM YOU". Dagon's domain reveal is a payoff to the island setting the curses were seen in 50 chapters prior. These aren't even close to all of them and I mentioned a few from just season 1 and 2. Jjk has a payoff to so many foreshadowed amd built up moments that saying it doesn't is actually crazy. Jjk simply has delayed gratification, the payoff to whatever you think is being set up WILL happen, only it'll be 50,100 or even 200 chapters later. Kinda like one piece. Jjk's only real flaws are it's fast pace and illiterate fanbase.
@silvermatter1739
@silvermatter1739 2 ай бұрын
@@Blaze57420well I guess it’s just a matter of opinions then, a good amount of the payoffs didn’t feel like payoffs to me tbh, a lot of the time it felt that a lot of the payoffs were just kinda pointless (At least to me) due to the Protagonists never really making meaningful progress, towards their goal, for example the payoffs with the finger bearers didn’t really lead anywhere, due to collecting the fingers becoming meaningless after Shibuya. Also I never stated there weren’t any payoffs just that the only real one I remember was Mahito. But thanks for bringing up a few examples I forgot of.
@MuhammadAreeb-qk9zc
@MuhammadAreeb-qk9zc 2 ай бұрын
Mha is mid jjk is masterpiece
@grannysint1625
@grannysint1625 2 ай бұрын
You're comparing because a lot of JJK stuff got their inspiration from MHA. But they're different from each other. One battles curses which should die while the other wants to rehab people after defeating them.
@just-vibing3082
@just-vibing3082 3 ай бұрын
Cool vid
@Night-wiseditor
@Night-wiseditor 2 ай бұрын
I think MHA owner cares abt character developments and story and emotions Meanwhile jjk owner cares abt action and fights. They are good animea but if I had to choose one I would choose mha Bcs why? I simply found their characters are enjoyable and well written characters even if they don’t have good animation like jjk honestly I think mha is the only anime made me cry I watched jjk to and namnei and nobara’s death honestly didn’t make me cry Bcs of lobotomy kasien made me laugh not crying so yea I think mha is better then jjk but hey they are good series
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
Completely incorrect the story of Mid hero has the worst writting in shoneb Jump
@Night-wiseditor
@Night-wiseditor 2 ай бұрын
@@ricky-chinaudio everyone haves opinions and ik I can’t change yours to but just asking how is mha worse written in shonen I find their writing good and you can’t say incorrect at someone’s “opinion”
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
@@Night-wiseditor I can say that the writing os objectively not good because it wastes its build up, has the worst plot armor and a lot of inconsistencies
@Night-wiseditor
@Night-wiseditor 2 ай бұрын
@@ricky-chinaudio so this is your reason? No hate at you but if you dislike the anime not going be mad at you but still won’t change other ppl opinions if you dislike what they like (mha) Bcs every person likes smth else and not everyone enjoys mha or jjk or any other anime that you like anyways have good day 👍🏻
@Makimaroma
@Makimaroma 2 ай бұрын
​@@Night-wiseditorIt's genuinely nice to see people online understand that everyone has their own opinions and preferences
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 2 ай бұрын
Mha is better
@willneo-y3i
@willneo-y3i 2 ай бұрын
how
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 2 ай бұрын
@@willneo-y3i Characters are better developed. They don't die so they have way more time obviously. Manga art also masterful
@willneo-y3i
@willneo-y3i 2 ай бұрын
@@jasonblack2477 it toke deku over 3 chapters to learn how to kick better developed my ass also they dont die because they have more plot armor than goku and art doesnt make something better
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 2 ай бұрын
@@willneo-y3i wrong. It was explained that Deku admired All Might too much and he only used fists. It was a character flaw of Deku and that he needed to make it his own. Also characters don't need to die. Avatar the last airbender has no one dying and it shits on both manga writing wise😂
@jasonblack2477
@jasonblack2477 2 ай бұрын
@@willneo-y3i your argument with the development was ass dawg
@Thedoorway123
@Thedoorway123 2 ай бұрын
JJK has good ideas but is ruined by terrible character writing and bad villains and a lazy mangaka who would rather rush to the end and not have a complete story
@drivergoku8510
@drivergoku8510 2 ай бұрын
Ngl this comment is dumb asl. No example of terrible character writing that ruined anything, yall love saying lazy mangaka but never have reasons that’s not “Binding vow” or deaths. It does have huge story pay offs, saying that it doesn’t is just pure ignorance. Bruh jjk ain’t finished, no disrespect to mha at all this comment just makes no sense 💀(also the villains are one of the best parts of jjk)
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 2 ай бұрын
For real gege should take example on hori. He sacrificed plot for casual fight scenes. Like imma just go watch dbz or opm if it comes to that
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
JJK is superior to Mid hero in every aspect except for art
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
​@@uwayn9829You are another Ioser who liked the ending of Disney Hero? 😂😂😂😂
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 2 ай бұрын
@@ricky-chinaudio stay mad buttass hater🤣 go read your shit manga
@seaweedbanana4663
@seaweedbanana4663 2 ай бұрын
legit MHA has more plot JJK is pretty mid in terms of anime quality tho JJK wins by a storm MHA was supposed to be big and it has dogshit quality animation where all that budget went
@shdhdhdhd6630
@shdhdhdhd6630 2 ай бұрын
Hard disagree imo
@uwayn9829
@uwayn9829 2 ай бұрын
Mha early anime (S1-3) is litteraly what we could describe as cult or classic. Wether you like it or not, this series made anime more popular in the west😭as it’s litteraly in the top 15 most popular anime of all time. Only S5 is what could be considered as having mid animation. S6 and currently s7 have the same quality if not better than the first seasons.
@ricky-chinaudio
@ricky-chinaudio 2 ай бұрын
Love seeing this my hero fanboy comment at the bottom ot means it got downvoted into oblivion
@MuhammadAreeb-qk9zc
@MuhammadAreeb-qk9zc 2 ай бұрын
Mha>>one piece
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