WHY IS MY ARMY ULTRAMARINES? - also - Channel Update | Warhammer 40,000 Lore/Minis

[@Luetin09]

I thought this would fit just for the end of this week, I wanted to put this one together for a while but it will give you guys something until my next vid next week, which will be lore and I think you're going to enjoy it :D I'll be posting pics from Iron Skull this weekend on Twitter as well if you don't follow me already the link is below this vid - 10:58 is the channel update

[@arielnir2679]

Luetin09 Now with the latest FAQ, you can buy a cheap Iron hands Army or imperial fists?

[@Luetin09]

@@arielnir2679 haha that whole situation is a shambles, I dont really talk too much about tabletop here but yeah - just silly

[@BrotherRoga]

I think I've heard of the Iron Skull competition or event before, I remember seeing something like that on an old White Dwarf magazine. Sometime in the early 2000s? Did that stuff make a comeback?

[@TheMHohSoma]

Have a great trip/weekend and don't let people bother you regarding your choice of army. personally i do no collect/paint/play the miniatures at all. I discovered Warhammer from the direction of the lore/books and enjoy it that way.

[@SigfridSWE]

For me, I used to not like Ultramarines, but after reading a lot of books from the Black Library, I love them!!! They are soo cool!!! I never new... I just didn't want to choose the "poster boy" chapter. So, as a kid I whent for space wolfs. But after to getting to know the fluff, I love the Ultramarines 😊 (my favorit color are green, so I have always liked the Dark Angels)

[@WhichDoctor1]

Ah getting incredibly invested in the colour of someone else's toy soldiers, the most worthwhile intellectual pursuit possible :p

[@chloesilverwolf739]

They're not toys THEY'RE MINITURES!!!

[@Seldonlair]

My color is better than yours! Nya ya nya! *Raspberry*

[@jj_see_film]

Well the colour actually means something. Youre making a similar arguement to a man being force to take down a nazi flag and saying "How cAn YoU GeT OFfENdED By COlOUrs ANd SHapEs"

[@jj_see_film]

@vreaase d what was that lsdt part?

[@thephilifluffy1838]

@@chloesilverwolf739 miniAtures*

[@omgitsesa8823]

You have single handedly convinced me to like the 40k universe. Before finding ur channel i just didnt know why it's so popular but the information and lore you've really opened my eyes. Keep up the great videos and I hope you only grow in the future

[@chrisspiers1]

Once you are indoctrinated, one does not easily get out.... (but seriously its a wonderful hobby!)😀

[@dabiggs9519]

It is also a rather flexible world too. People have made dozen of custom units, groups, Space Marine Chapters, Astra Militarum Regiments, and much more! So even as in-depth as it is, the Galaxy is so expansive that one can easily to their own little thing with the lore!

[@rikter22]

i think he's gonna get me into it, too

[@peterschroeder3087]

A shame we haven’t seen any movies or series lore is fuckin great, but as far as I understand it it’s just a collection of games,videotapes and books…don’t know if the books are any good, but 40 years of books? I just wouldn’t know where to start…if Hollywood would consider to adapt this in several series I’d sit on the egde for it…

[@jamescutler8055]

Exactly why I went Imperial Fist. As a Pittsburgh Steeler fan the Yellow and Black scheme was the deal maker.

[@NPC-st7zv]

Angry marines are better.

[@andrewkgsmith]

As an Everton supporter I decided on Alaitoc - the colours is one thing but the whole Aeldari "used to be the most lit but everything is fucked now and its never going to get better" thing really drove it home

[@fguocokgyloeu4817]

I honestly considered Dark Angels because they were green with wings like the Iggles.

[@NPC-st7zv]

@@fguocokgyloeu4817 I prefer the fallen. Although the raven wing and death wing have been tempting.

[@troutwarrior6735]

A football fan AND a 40k player? IMPOSSBLE and AWESOME

[@Gravord85]

"I like blue" - Tzeentch approves.

[@nadrewod999]

"RED FOR THE RED GOD!!!" - Corn-on-the-Cob

[@daan626]

SpaghettiandSauce I am Alpharius

[@MelonMafia1]

@@daan626 no

[@sweetballs4742]

@@daan626 no, I am Alpharius!

[@IsAcRafT]

@@sweetballs4742 everything is Alpharius

[@handsomeman-child8751]

I also like blue. Therefore I've sworn my allegiance to the Thousand Sons!

[@vinnylatoria4478]

ALL IS DUST!

[@ethanguest3438]

H E R E S Y !

[@rebeccaschroder3000]

*Roomba activated* *Target: thousand sons*

[@Aconspiracyofravens1]

Ah the good old “90% of my units are great but I have none cause he needs to pump out 251 more units for the loyalist Astarte

[@fynoxadavius]

The Roman Legion theme really sells the Ultramarines for me. Their durability, resourcefulness and dominance for such a long period of history really reflects the XIIIth Legion. Discipline and loyalty are what makes great Marines in my opinion I feel no one tops them in these areas. The Horus Heresy series also gave some more character to them with some dark themes and concepts introduced in the 30k rulebooks. Imagine the Imperium that 18 Ultramarines Legions could have built...

[@axemurderer010]

Same :)

[@ethanguest3438]

True but that would take the fun out of Warhammer a bit as everything would be same and nothing would have gone wrong

[@BeKindToBirds]

See it's the opposite for me, I think the Roman ascetic is so played out and lame. But I love the rest of the ultramarines stuff. Anyway my favorite colour is black and I love birds so guess which chapter is my favorite lol. Feelings for army choice 101 I guess

[@wintersSEO]

Snap. Everything you said applies to me too. Except for the school house colour thing. We didn't have that. It was a different time. The internet was not a thing.

[@markpollard2878]

Woah! My favorite lore battle reports on my favorite lore channel? Sweet! Also, hey Winters! Can't wait to graduate uni and buy my dztv subscription!

[@jerrys1923]

Winters have leutin on the channel!

[@therealwildboar1007]

The man of battle hath appeared.

[@ObjectiveAnalysis]

Winters keep putting out the narrative battle reports man, the random/generic objectives (that GW now seems to believe you need for a competitive game??) really sucks the life and soul out of 40K

[@ayylmao9907]

I thought my dad sold all our warhammer years ago but I went up in the loft and found a box and he has kept all the best models we had its amazing to look back, your lore videos are the absolute best keep up all the good work, a space hulk one would be really cool if thats maybe something in the pipeline

[@joahnaut]

"No one wanted Orks..." OI WOT YA GIT

[@rebeccaschroder3000]

*WAAAAAAAAGGGHH!!!!!!*

[@southaussielad2496]

WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!

[@Svemirsky]

*WAAAAAAAAGH*

[@DonkeyWork420]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÆAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHH

[@KameSennin4209]

I see that this is a thread of culture.

[@gamiezion]

to quote the emperor of mankind himself: "what is with these ultrasmurfs i keep hearing about?"

[@scottmurphy4946]

Tell them to turn off their Gellar fields while traveling to thwir mission

[@spethmanjones2997]

Scott MUrphy I mean they caught Magnum Dong the Red and brought him all the way back to Terra in a box so...

[@clumsycommissar5260]

YOU’RE ASKING FOR A FISTING BOY!

[@SpookyMarine]

Scott MUrphy You think turning off our Gellar fields is enough to stop us?

[@vraska8799]

"I JUST LIKE BLUE" *clap! clap! clap!* that's the answer i wanted but didn't expect to get... i like red tho... xD

[@catnium]

@@LordBruuh psst (there is more than 2 team reds)

[@vraska8799]

@@LordBruuh actually Imperial Fist... but i like pre-heresy Thousand Sons... that counts right?

[@earlgrey2130]

So you like to go fast?

[@vraska8799]

@@earlgrey2130 fast is for noobs, red ones go fastah!

[@ERhymesD]

@thekangarooboxer should have gone with black then

[@nrais76]

Your history with Ultramarines sounds very similar to mine, only I'm in the US and a little bit older. I actually tried to start playing in Rogue Trader with Ultramarines, Dark Angels (who wore black at the time) and Tyranids, but nobody played. When I found other people to play with, it was the launch of 2nd edition, and the first codex released was Ultramarines. I had a bit more money and/or ways of trading other people for miniatures (like trading the Orks in the starter box with somebody for more marines), and even though I ended up building a little bit of just every Imperial faction that got a codex - just to paint something diferent - I stuck with Ultramarines as my primary, because I had more of them and blue armor was lucky. I still have a whole company from the 90s and have started collecting again late in 7th edition after having quit about 2/3 of the way through 3rd edition's lifespan, once again keeping my Ultramarines as my main faction because I have so dang many of them already.

[@mcc_1024]

My armies have always been the Dark Angels and the Black Legion, right from 2nd edition. Each to their own sir. Enjoy the hobby as it entertains you I say.

[@mcc_1024]

@@CreateHarmony the more I read the Heresy novels the more I like Abaddon's character.

[@Jbay2608]

I'm an Ultramarines fan too. I get into 40K when Humblebundle gave away the Space Marine game for free. From there I found the Uriel Ventris novels, the extended lore, these videos and now I'm painting an army. I think the Ultramarines have a lot of fun lore, and they're an interesting faction. I think it's quite interesting when you read an Ultramarine novel and watch them try to balance their strict adherence with the Codex and their beliefs with the grim outlook of the universe. Plus there is the way that while the Codex is a big help to them, it can also be a hindrance, weather that's because they are slow to adapt to a knew, unknown threat like the Tyranids or because they end up punishing a loyal captain for breaking the Codex even though he saved a whole world. There's a lot more to them than just the memes people share. As an aside, my house colour in primary school was blue and the name of the house was Aquila suppose that could explain my loyalty to the Imperium....

[@rudboypaintbrawl]

When I was going almost every weekend for AirSoft shooting I dakkadakked about 2500 BB's in 4-5 hours for 2 years. Bottle of 3500 BB's costs ±12€ as I used premium brand, then add parts of gun which broke from wear&tear, cost of transport etc.etc. and we get something like 1000€ per year. That's in tabletop 40k equivalent of 2,5k army painted by commision painter in tabletop standard, so for 2 years of ASG(probably paintball or fishing too) adding cost of gun/eq one can get two armies painted in tabletop+/++ quality. My point is that all hobbies taken seriously cost about 1,5k$/€/£ yearly and if someone wants have hobby then must deal with it - quiting smoking and drinking would give money for 40k+ASG and still would get some cash left. I've quit drinking 5 years ago and got about 15-18k of 40k minis plus some miniature boardgames, oldschool Chronopia(3,5k points in 40k standard) and big paintingu workshop(airbrushes, 50 quality brushes, 200 paints, Dremel, clockwork files etc.) in 5 years, so I don't give a shit when I hear that it's expensive blablabla

[@anblueboot5364]

great assumption that people are wasting so much money for alcohol/cigarettes lol yeah warhammer might not be that much more expansive compared to different hobby but when I look at fishing it's : oh you have an actual tool amazing ! or if someone starts with Hema : wow you got some nice fancing gear + a good sword (which can end up extremly expansive) or LARP : wow you got an amazing functioning outfit great !! my problem with all the miniature hobby is : you pay 40 bucks for 6 miniatures ! (might want to start with infinity) but I think there are also price tags around : 1 miniatures = 30 bucks this is something that even compared to lego, which in itself is completly over prized, just feels kinda too expansive I lack the feeling of getting something worth the price out of it, it feels that so few plastic miniatures just shoud cost less. Let's make 6 miniatures 15-20 euro/dollar and it already feels more reasonable and incline with what I'm willing to pay. I bought lord of hellas like a year or two ago, don't remember. it has 50 something minis which aren't too high of a quality(cause they're just some army bulk, still better than risk miniatures by a lot) but the 5 heroes, and something around of 9 Mythical creatures + 3 gigantic statues and I payed around 90 euros, like I have no problem and willing to pay for that. But it just felt I got more out of it. Especialy when it comes to miniatures, the fact that I have an in itself completed game just helps, cause normal board games with out minis can be around ~ 50 euros. The only thing compareable in 40k are those army starter packs or the 2 player starter pack the only downside or upside might be that beside kill command most people don't play with such a small army ^^" (but those things are kinda in the realm of what I find acceptable beside the fact I don't get the army I might want to play with) at least that is the feeling I got when looking around my tabletop shops and see people playing

[@JudasPainting]

I effing love the Ultramarines. The lore, the stories. The duality of the truly great UM's that push the rest forward by holding to the true teachings of Roboute to the stalwart moody rule following guys like Leandros from Space Marine (that little c**t) then theres the very ancient Rome feel to the grand scenes and worlds. Love it

[@gingainfinity1034]

Just a shame theyve become mary sues (thanks mat ward head of the c**t club)

[@SpookyMarine]

vreaase d Listen sister, you’re probably not familiar with fighting Tyranids, since you’re most likely busy burning heretics and what not. And you most definitely weren’t around when the Tyranids first appeared... so I won’t be too harsh on ya. You’re also probably not aware of the Devastation of Baal. But here’s a word of advice, don’t speak nonchalantly on things you don’t know about, lest you find yourself on the wrong end of a sword from either a Tyrannic War Veteran or a Blood Angel.

[@JudasPainting]

@Lord Admiral Spire WE KNOW NO FEEAARRRR!

[@garf6394]

Ginga Infinity Everything in warhammer are Mary Sues...

[@eikmaster8947]

My Brother. This Video brought me 25 years back and it is exactly my story. I started with 2nd Edition and I like blue...its my fav colour. So easy. I remember watchig every picture showed in this video for weeks and month. And I started some Eldar as well. I still remember the opening of the first GW store in my region and was so exicted travelling to my first GamesDay in Cologne? and buy some rare mystic ForgeWorld stuff (Resin? What is that) I am still proud fighting for Macragge because I really love how our wise Primarch teached his sons not only warfare but art and diplomacy as well. The XIII. fight to protect all normal humans instead seeing them as servants (at best) like other Chapters. I restarted around 18 month ago and got some Horus Heresy boxes, and started with the XX. Legion wich is very....(metallic)blue-ish 😅. Thanks for this great Video and best wishes from northern Germany.

[@DG9-q6f]

Even in Grimdark, it's natural for Space Marines to wear bright out-of-place colors to serve as a highly visible beacon of hope for Imperial Guard/citizens, especially in battle (and possibly a "come at me" challenge to the enemies). I also think people getting vehement over others' toy soldiers is a good thing: it means they got a harmless outlet for the kind of feelings that in other circumstances push to, say, get vehement over whether a woman should hide her hair.

[@carlrambow1277]

Be yourself, enjoy what you like and ignore the haters. When you talked about you being in a kid in the 90s I knew exactly what that feels like and when you had a small group of friends you picked an army and they chose thier armies and now your stuck with it for life but THATS AWESOME. Cheers from USA!

[@mikespillane8289]

That took me back to early 90's too. I was a kid in a model shop and bought the space marines box (mark 6 with beaky helmets) Just because they looked cool. I knew nothing else about them. The box art showed them painted as crimson fists (if I remember right) and there were pics around the sides of the box of other example chapters. My goto back then was crimson fists just because of that box art (and dark blue is better!!). I do remember Ultramarines getting all the attention in white dwarf though. Followed by blood angels,space wolves and dark angels. It lasted a few years for me... until now, as I'm back into painting mini's to relax and step back and, I must say, the lore is amazing now compared to then. Love your video's,especially the Lore but I also appreciate your painting journey and it feels like quite a parallel with how I've come back to it. It's amazing what you can learn to do with the access to information and lessons today instead of studying pics on a monthly magazine. Keep up the great work, It's much appreciated.

[@pixlplague]

Man.. You inadvertently sent me on a trip down memory lane there! Going to the local comic book shop, mispronouncing names, saving up to buy stuff... I must be damn old!

[@jboltz85]

This is me as a kid in the 90's! I also leaned towards to the ultramarines, and with lack of knowledge on the lore of warhammer white dwarf was my hobby bible! P.s I still collect ultramarines 😆

[@bovine1980]

I've never played any table top game, but i worked in a guitar store next door to a games workshop. Wandered in to kill some time on a quiet day and bought the Soul Drinkers omnibus for shits and giggles. I've read over a hundred 40k/Heresy books since. Ultra Marines was my second omnibus, cementing my love of the IP. Great vid LT.

[@dekai7992]

8:52 I remember seeing Terminator Squad Gaius on their box for the first time (probably around 1997), and it simply blew my mind. I was so taken by the beatiful models - those unironically beautiful boxy, static poses with that incredibly detailed, smooth paintjob, especially the sergeant's helmet. I remember pouring over those photos for hours, and seeing them now brings back that same old, warm fuzzy feeling in my chest. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

[@abogus1756]

Good lord that bright red tyranid nearly burned my eyes out, I love it

[@trajicsolitude5791]

The hate towards "Ultrasmurfs" is old fashioned. All of the recent ultramarine content particularly dark imperium has been excellent

[@motivatedsonofsparda3646]

Nope. Hate towards the Ultrasmurfs is fully justifiable to this day. And Dark Imperium, like most of the new lore just straight-up sucks.

[@krism.6598]

The taint of Ward is hard to dispel.

[@zartheprotogen]

@@krism.6598Why does it even matter? They're pieces of moulded plastic. If you're going to get annoyed by the background of what are essentially immobile blue army men, then please get a life.

[@mutasqueele]

"I like those guys" literaly every hoby entouthisate ever.

[@chrisspiers1]

As an Ultramarine player myself! Good on you sir, I grew up in the same time as you and guess what, my school house colour was blue too! Your army looks excellent! Looking forward to more!

[@lonothewarlock]

Any plans to do videos on the history of the Horus era legions? I loved the Grey Knights videos, and you could easily do a similar style of content for almost all of the legions. Anyway, great content man. One of my favorites on youtube.

[@ajkleipass]

I'm new to Warhammer, and was starting to wonder about the Space Marines. I hear about the different factions in your (and other's) videos, and I've seen those color scheme charts, yet it's like every let's paint video is a video about bright blue Ultramarines. I'm not opposed to blue marines, but as a newbie I'm reluctant to tackle the Sweetheart flavor that every nitpicker and his granny could pick apart. 😉

[@tuckerjohnston1844]

I love the Ultramarines because of their lore and their primary color it’s that simple.

[@mortee711]

You are telling my stoty! Your minis look great, even the old ones. Back then, like you said, we did not have KZbin with its videos about painting and playing and so on. The hobby is so much greater then in the past. And its good. Thank you for showing us youre incredible army. Keep up the good work.

[@guyr3980]

This is a very good listen. I was running a game shop in the 90's, and your description of how the "scene" was is spot on, right down to the way Abaddon is pronounced. It was a different time, and the FLGS was the center of a community.

[@jordanlancer1065]

I used to work in an injection mold place a couple years back. we worked mainly in plastics but sometimes did different polymers and whatnot. anyway, we would make 200-500 casting an hour of these little rings that would fit around certain machine parts for different factories. a company would come to us and say "hey look we need X amount of these with these specific dimensions. my boss would say "sweet, that'll be 2 grand" or whatever. i remember asking him why we charged so much when the raw plastic we used was cheap as shit, he told me the machines only have about 17 months of use before they start to break down. the injectors themselves begin to crack, the heating units that heat the plastic begin to falter, etc etc. those fucking machines are very very expensive too, i remember once the boss had to pay almost seventy grand (nzd) to get most the machine replaced. i think thats why gw charges so much. well, that AND gw are tight pricks lmao

[@juusovuolle8251]

well there is that for sure if you consider a small business run by a skeleton crew but we are talking about multi national business with amazing revenue who out sourced the smelting to be done by a chinese contractor. and in GW sized business they can just make hughe bulk orders cutting down costs even further I don't think that these two are in correlation with each other. Just bunch of greedy cunts is what I'm saying.

[@VeritasAbsoluta]

@@juusovuolle8251 They are. Their prices ahve gone up above inflation even though they're using plastic and resin now which works out cheaper than the white metal or lead that they used to use. When you take into account the difference in price for materials they use then it works out that GW are charging more than double what the price should be if their price increases matched inflation since the 90's. In addition, the last time I looked at their year end accounts it showed their turnover going down but their profit going up. This means they're making more net profit on every model sold than they were before.

[@scottlidstone1902]

Side by side of your early mini to a recent one... really shows what practice and dedication can lead to. Thumbs up!

[@TrentRosenbaum]

This was a real walk down memory lane and about the early days of White Dwarf being a treasure reminded me how it was. I loved all the Space Marine chapters and Space Crusade was my start. Ultramarines are cool, but I collected Dark Angels and now focusing on Silver Templars for codex chapter. Great video!

[@cornishmaninamerica4981]

My first magazine around 1986 had an Ork on a warbike. Such an iconic image. It makes me smile. Thank you for your video.

[@justarandomname420]

Last time I was this early, the Emperor still had yet to reveal himself

[@ellyrion8173]

Really beautiful video man - All of your stories along with that great background music evoked some pretty vivid memories of 40k in my childhood.

[@AdamArchangel]

I was the same. I started collecting Tyranids first and painted them in Leviathan scheme because I loved the purple, and collected Eldar and painted them Biel-Tan because I loved the green. When I was a young teenager and starting out in the hobby, those were the entire driving forces behind my army and scheme decisions.

[@vizerandevir6422]

I knew you were my favorite 40k youtuber for a reason. I collect Biel-Tan and Ultramarines as well. The clean ascetic is a great contrast to the universe. I started with eldar and explored all flavors but when I decided to venture into the Imperium it had to be the smurfs.

[@robz8769]

Thank you for showing your mini’s. I still paint my Ultra Marines in blue and yellow with a red bolter because that is what I saw in White Dwarf growing up too. Loved seeing the old pictures in you video and hearing the treasured value of the magazines. I had the same experience.

[@danmorgan4934]

My reasoning for following the Ultramarines was pretty much the same Luetin. While I don't collect (or paint) the minatures, I have followed the universe and owned all the copies of White Dwarf you've shown in this video (brings back some fond memories) and played quite a few of the computer games (Chaos Gate being one of my favourites). I also have collected some of the Horus Heresy series audio books, and take a keen interest in the traitor legions fall to Chaos, and their reasons for doing so. My favourite 'traitor' legion being the Alpha Legion, bizarrely enough. I think that came down to the GW lore of 'Little being known about them' back in the late 80's and 90's, and piqued my intrigue and interest. Blue IS my favourite colour, and as it happens, I too was in 'House Blue' at primary school. I was introduced to 40k via Milton Bradley's 'Space Crusade' table-top game and the subsequent C64 and PC spinoff computer game. I see in your video that your early painted minature is a 'Space Crusade' minature rather than a true Citadel Minature from the full 40k game. I do own a 2nd Edition copy of the Warhammer 40k game, and a couple of extra squads of Chaos Marines (Khorne Beserker Squad, Nurgle Plague Marine squad, and a Rhino) although all are unpainted. The Ultramarines do come in for a lot of 'stick', by the fans, that much is obvious. 'The Smurfs' being the most common derisive nickname i've seen attributed to them. I see a lot of commonality in people's love for certain factions in 40k being AS tribal as support for football teams, in general. It therefore can be assumed the passion levels (and the hatred conversely) of other 'competing' or rival factions will be at least as strong as the same such rivalries between football fans, but thankfully (hopefully) without the added hooliganism, except in the tabletop battles themselves lol. Liking your videos (irrespective of your army choices), keep up the good work. ;)

[@battle-brotherthiel1563]

HAHA , COURAGE AND HONOR!!

[@GeorgeSoroshasenteredthechat]

For Macragge !!! For the Emperor !!!!!!!

[@garf6394]

March for Macragge brother!!! The emperor protects!!!

[@edasdima2615]

FOR MATT WARD

[@Topsy88]

Great channel, takes me back to my childhood and makes me love 40k more than ever. Brilliant work cant wait for what comes next.

[@bryanwalsh1107]

Love the channel - I was the same; space crusade then 3rd edition. Ultramarines because blue was the best; in those days Blood Angel's were the poster child, from memory. Picked up the hobby again last October and went for Astra Militarum army which is now decidedly oversized but table ready. Just started working on an Iron Snakes successor chapter of Primaris - how far the miniature design has come! Keep up the great work.

[@earlgrey2130]

Honestly.. i just dug out my space marines i've painted decades ago as a kid. And i amusingly realized that i always thought i played blood angels. But i've bought a lot of darkangels minis and mechanicus minis and just painted them red. I also glued multiple weapons on some minis and stickers of various chapters and even some chaos symbols. Why? Because i didn't know and just did whatever seemed cool to my teenage brain. So... fucking hell. Play whatever makes you happy. If it's the ultrasmurfs then more power to you. We shouldn't forget that this is all a hobby with the sole purpose of being enjoyable.

[@terratheterribl]

There is something charming about the grand lore master who has every possible option available to them choosing the most basic entry level army. If anyone has the right to use them without criticism it's you.

[@ProgrammingwithSebastian]

Your descriptions hit home for me. I was born in 1981, grew up in England. I remember reading and re-reading the magazines. I still remember all the pictures. Really weird seeing them again

[@adammoore251]

I started with Blood Angles literally because of the colour scheme. 25 years later I picked back up the hobby thanks to you and your lore videos. Unfortunatley I had no remaining army, destroyed during a stupid teen phase. Im a Deathguard Heretic now. Thank you for bringing me back. Love the content.

[@iannordin5250]

Some of Luetin's best stuff is him talking about his love of the hobby

[@skatatataatje]

You do you man! Great to hear you talk about what it meant to you when you were a kid, and how you lived with your army since then. Keep up the great work!

[@vineheart01]

Generally the people that claim 40k is way too expensive are the people treating this like a game and not a hobby. Its expensive, what hobby isnt? My Sister in Law does crocheting...almost all day long shes got a crochet needle in her hands. She burns 2-3 hundred USD on yarn a month... 40k's painting side is a massive amount of work. If you can enjoy the painting, it will keep you busy for eons. I have so many orks i am still painting....i dont see myself ever running out of stuff to paint.

[@mihaelkesina8880]

Places outside the US and Britain get shafted pretty hard, Australia gets anywhere from 30% to 60% markups on the GW range, recasting and eBay are the main options for buying models here.

[@vineheart01]

@@mihaelkesina8880 Yeah Australia definitely is the exception, pretty much everything is massively upcosted for down there.

[@mihaelkesina8880]

@@vineheart01 Don't listen to GW excuse makers about some shit like tariffs, the reason it costs so much here is because they set the price to a once since 1990 exchange rate so that they will never miss out on a profit if the currency ever fluctuates

[@saberz6615]

40k as hobby is not that bad some people spend loads of money on gacha mobile games. TCG are also expensive if don't go to trade binders or secondary markets. At least when I buy a box of tactical marines will get tactical marines and not a chance to get said items from a pack or a gacha roll.

[@vineheart01]

​@@saberz6615 "Lootbox" mentality. Tons of small payments doesnt feel as expensive as it is, when in reality its even worse. I know several big MTG fans and most of them have more money invested in paper than i have in plastic. Btw i have 17kpts of 40k between orks and admech lol. So having more than me is not a small number. Yet they never claim they felt like they dumped too much on it....

[@trentluckman505]

Luetin, your description of your early years in the hobby mirrored my own (although I was a Dark Angel, favourite colour is green haha), same era and everything. Was a great little nostalgia trip and YES! I never understood people who cry about the price of our hobby, like dude, you probably put away a tactical squads worth of pints every Friday, calm down

[@NoahRichard]

I love how you paint your Ultramarines, sticking with the bright blue w/yellow trim even on the newer models. A lot more visually striking than the now-standard dark blue and gold, imo. I know this is an old video, but I hope your army of Ultras continues to flourish!

[@nunyabusiness4904]

I’m new and I went Ultramarines because I bought a leviathan box set and one of those little kits that came with some paints and a Space Marine and Tyranid, so I basically just had the colors and rolled with it. I do love the blue and gold color scheme.

[@scoutobrien3406]

Good god. At 8:04 that specific page of that specific White Dwarf is so burned into my memory I had to stand up and take a walk remembering the entire issue piece by piece which, just like you, I must have read three dozen times and stared at the pictures for hours.

[@scoutobrien3406]

God I dreamed of owning Terminators back then.

[@johnnyutah892]

I’ve been Ultras since I picked the ‘blue’ ones in Space Crusade. Never looked back. Love your classic look, I might do a squad like that seeing how good yours look. Still got boxes of white dwarf mags from the 90’s.

[@Unknown-SwedeX]

I love the Ultramarines, recently listened to dark imperium and plague wars audia books and they are amazing.

[@Jbay2608]

What's the narration like? Might try them as audio books.

[@Unknown-SwedeX]

@@Jbay2608 It's narrated by John Banks and it's very good he really nails Guilliman and the plague guard. If you go on audible you can hear a small sample of all the audio books so you get a idea how it will go.

[@Jedi_Scowen]

I was introduced to 40k by a friend at about age 12 and my first purchase was a box of Epic Space Marines and a box of Epic Orks. My favourite colour is red. School house colour was red. So Blood Angels was my choice. We got to go to a couple Grand Openings of Games Workshop stores armed with a bunch of money off vouchers from White Dwarf for those specific stores. I started with the Space Marine epic main game and Space Hulk main game. Then moved in 2nd edition 40k proper at the next Grand Opening. Coming home with the main 40k box and Dark Millennium supplement was overwhelmingly awesome. Just so many rules and wargear cards. Warhammer Quest, Necromunda, Gorka Morka & Blood Bowl were all added to my growing list of Games. Every 2nd edition Codex. The release of the box sets of Imperial Guardsmen from the different worlds. I was there for the introduction of Cadian shock troops and my favourite Catachan Jungle Fighters all in 10 man box sets made from lead. These were added to my collection as soon as I could afford them. Necrons, Tau & Sisters of Battle were created and released while I was deep in the hobby. Three whole new armies to understand and learn about. Then came 3rd edition and the end of the hobby for me... shame really but I couldn't reset my brain as I'd memorised the entire 2nd edition wargear book. Every weapon, short range, long range, hit modifier, strength, armour penetration, damage and any special rule. I could reel them off on request. 3rd edition seemed to streamline the game and do away with a lot of the detail of weapons that I'd grown to love. Roll forward 20-25 years and image my surprise to find out 40k is now on 8th edition. No one thinks of Necrons, Tau & Sisters of Battle as new anymore, like I still do. Cadia is gone and the Galaxy is in a whole new level of danger. There are more than 2 Hive Fleets now? And Primaris Space Marines are above and beyond "regular" Space Marines. Wait... when did the Emperors finest become "regular" in my head? Being so deeply into the law and history of the hobby. Being there as it grew. Then dropping out for so long and coming back to the law via videos on here has been a great experience. Seeing old friends that feel familiar but have changed so much.

[@ped117uka]

Yep, my era too.... No internet was great, but also a nightmare! Buying white dwarf and seeing others models helped and was always an exciting time!

[@hartixbrix3761]

I don’t mind the Ultramarines one bit. I‘ve actually painted the six marines from the First Strike box as Ultramarines Even tho I don’t think I‘ll play them later. On the pricing: something that should also be considered is the fact that GW can produce their models for drastically less than 20,30 years ago. These plastic molded sprues cost literally nothing (props tho for still making most of them in the UK) and designing the models has become mich easier with 3D software. I think it would be fair to drop the prices of everything by about 10%. That would be enough for me and still make tons of profit for GW. Something we should note tho is that GW currently puts a lot of their profits into rather risky projects like the Eisenhorn and Angels of Death series, which we should be somewhat thankful for.

[@Just_Pele]

I got into 40K by inheriting an old friend's >12k pt Space Wolves army after he passed-on. He was insane regarding detail, the army was his passion, and I told him I would take good care of it and field it when I could, as an honor to him, and I do. I have gone through and touched it up, to try and keep it up to date, and I've added 25-30 pieces, mostly artillery, tanks, and vehicles. If I had my druthers, I would have probably chosen a different chapter, likely the Salamanders, but I do love the Vlka Fenryka and they're in my top 3. So my Wolves tend to be a bit melee-lite in favor of arms, with Salamander auxiliary and ecclesiarchy.

[@stevenotrob6513]

Great video. I agree with you about price inflation but the price of Citadel paint is outrageous.

[@raptorstryke1059]

I have that same white dwarf! I saw the how to make the small fort template flashed there. I have Ultramarines for somewhat the same reasons. Box set was blood angels. Then I saw the Ultramarines, and thought oh man they have blue ones! I have recently come back to the hobby, starting up an astra militarum army and need to redo some of my Ultramarines.

[@amatthew1231]

People hate the Ultrasmurfs because they get catered to. They got their primarch back, they got the most primaris, they have the most successor chapters, they are spoiled compared to other first founding chapters.

[@davidiainmcmahon]

I like the Dark Angels. Favourite colour is green. the white cloaks are cool too, hence why I also like White Scars. Liking the colours is as legit as reasons get.

[@thealgorerhythm9379]

Hey Leutin, I really empathise with what you mean about the scope of tutorials available today compared to the past. I started collecting and painting at 3rd edition and by about 4th edition I had given it all up (attempting to paint and convert a 1500pt ork army deeply broke me) until 2 years ago! Since then, I've been utterly amazed at how high the painting bar has been set with so much sharing of tutorials online (compared to the grim-dark void of the 90s/2000s). I've painted up a full 1500pt imperial fist army and have given the converted ork army the detol smite to start one more time... Wish me luck...

[@Ice_Man69]

I had very similar expirience. And I live in Poland, when in 90' iron curtain fell, everything was new and rare.

[@TheSMC1988]

I really admire your dedication and also congratulations on the Thunderhawk. I remember way way back c.1998 seeing the Thunderhawk in the codex then. Love at first sight haha.

[@ce017]

I actually wanted a biel tan army for years and I recently started practicing with old space marine models during lockdown, as ultramarines. Now I've got all my models I want and the paints and I'm half way through my first guardian squad

[@AlphariusXXth]

My primary is also Ultramarines. And the whole reason was when i got my first kit, i just liked the scheme. Even before i knew anything about the lore. I just wanted to paint them. And ive really learned to love them, both lore and on the table.

[@stuffandnonsense8528]

Why would anyone think that Ultramarine aren't an obviously good choice? Yes, of course there's the point about mere preference, and blue is as good a reason as any, but I think there's a lot to recommend Ultramarine above other factions. They are the quintessential Space Marine, apart from some Guard (and of course some Eldar and Tau) the boys in blue are the good guys of the setting and, therefore, our avatar in that universe.

[@teraomi]

Can say it's near the same for myself but in a modern setting sense. Only got into collecting these past 2 years. Still today, Ultras are the main face of 40k and as a outsider, it was what I always thought of whenever 40k came to mind. My biggest push too get into the lore was the Space Marine game, the main character was a badass Ultra and I wanted that experience. The colours also are very catchy, blue with gold/yellow is very pleasing to the eye. I then got into collecting and then began the lore hike and climb to absorb. Yes Ultras are the boy scouts, the plain toast in a sense team to go for. But some serious stories and characterization has made them so likeable to me. Still not played a game not really involved in a group or site to talk about 40k much but as a collector outsider, it honestly feels that the Ultra hate carries on simply because it's the cool thing to do. Great video, per usual. Nice to know others keep to the blue due to growing into it.

[@Roowfc705]

This takes me straight back to childhood. I wish I still had my minis .

[@Joshua-oo9hy]

I like that you showcased your old poorly painted modals. It make me feel better about my less then perfect paint job on some one my models.

[@LordHarvestA]

I had that OG boxed set of Spacehulk with your first painted space marine. Holy... Those were the days.

[@nathan_787]

For the "good guys" Ultramarines are pretty badass.

[@paulmerchant9015]

looking at the minis from when you were a kid reminds me of when i collected them when i was 9,10 and 11 years old with the exact same painting style haha only just recently got the bug again to collect. i don't think i still have any of my old minis. was always ultramarines for me but thinking imperial guard now. how time passes and skills get better. i wish i could see my minis now

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

I love all the space marine legions but the ultras are what caught my attention when I was a noob, their armor and Roman style really sold me on them and they have so many great characters in lore. Also death of hope really showed how cool ultramarines can look.

[@kuafer3687]

Love my blue boys with all my heart since Uriel Ventris novels rocked my teen years. So glad you appreciate them too 🥺

[@theishik]

Wow finally someone else who understands my struggle with my old school saying of Abaddon.

[@gibby_da_birb]

I started collecting Warhammer 40k models with the Black Templars, they suited me perfectly as they were crusaders and looked so cool to me so I bought Know no Fear and painted the Primaris Marines as Black Templars and I loved it, then I began expanding my Black Templars Army and I'm still building them up.

[@KreigWes]

Here in Canada, our economy is pretty bad at the moment.. these miniatures are getting a little pricy. But they aren’t bad and it’s worth it. It’s good paint, amazing plastic. It isn’t cheap stuff. But it’s worth it none the less.

[@daneshardlow293]

I'm always happy to subscribe to another gene brother

[@j453]

I wish I could have had this hobby in my life as I was growing up. As it is I'm probably older than you and just starting out. I hope I can collect and play into old age lol. Anyway it's cool that you have mini's from your childhood still.

[@ediblerapper]

Man, looking at those mags and old rule books/codex books brings back memories! You’re right, it was really bold and bright back then. I still prefer how Orks we’re painted, with a brighter green skin tone.

[@vodosvids2]

It seems my early 40k experience very closely matches yours. Though not quite as limited in internet access, I was very limited in funds and only ended up collecting ultras because they were in the starter set and was what were shown on the box (similar to my prior experience making airfix models). I was only able to get a new box of models once in a blue moon and my only access to info/inspiration was the very early GW website (which was still seperate from their online store) and my friend's 3rd/4th ed catalogues. Me and my circle of friends even pronounced 'Abaddon' in the same way as you did! I even pronounced 'Tau' as 'Tai-oo' for a while. Not long after though I repainted my limited army collection into my own custom chapter colour scheme (an ultras successor appropriately) and have stuck with that scheme ever since and cant even consider painting anything else for a SM army (save for one squad of deathwatch).

[@mignonthon]

Smurf, french here funny i have the same white dwarf that you show. i feel you for the 90's, we were pretty alone for painting and fluffing.

[@terratheterribl]

I love that people actually play them, considering they are so front and center in the lore. I almost appreciate Ultramarine players because god knows no one I know wants to play them.

[@tajj7]

Pretty much the same for me with Blood Angels, I liked red, my football team were red, I went for the red guys. Also very true about that time, only stuff you really got was what was in White Dwarf so a lot of the other races, even other space marine chapters weren't fleshed out that much lore wise or even mentioned a huge amount.

[@drakerezendes3999]

I just got into the hobby myself, and I was stuck between Adepta Sororitas and Blood Angels. I really liked the theme and idea and style of the Sisters of Battle but it took so long to commit to one solely because I think space marines are cool and the Blood Angels are red and red is my favorite color hahaha

[@Cziro_]

My first big SM force was also Ultramarines, cause Chaos Gate from 1998 was focused around Ultramarines, and so I 've got hyped for smurfs. But I'd grown up and create a force of Templars and woof woof Marines :)

[@Crucible52]

Since Luetin shared his story...my first Miniatures I ever bought was not 40k but Warlords Imperial Roman minies cause I loved and still interested in Roman history. Since the Ultramarines are inspired by the Romans it was easy for me to jump into their lore and painting them since they are Space Romans more or less and Guilliman as the ideal stoic Roman general and statesmen.

[@heraissilly]

My first army was Ultramarines, just because at the time I liked to paint what I saw on the Boxes. then I learned the lore behind the Ultramarines and liked them even more. Nowadays, my ultramarines are mostly relegated to the shelves, and my Crimson Fists are my main army (mostly to avoid the Ultramarine stigma, and because I read a tale of 4 warlords when the Matt Ward codex came out that featured the Crimson fists. Once again I fell in love with their lore and switched). I think I should probably update my smurfs soon, as they are still mostly comprised of the battle for maccrage guys

[@mikenichols7760]

Luetin.. I too remember the time called "the dark ages" or pre computers lol. Before cell phones and consoles. It was an interesting time when you got your first Atari or the first home computer that had windows 95 lol. Ahhhhhh the good ol days of chat rooms lol

[@alexramey2062]

Interesting story. I recently got into collecting 40k miniatures and the main reason why I ended up choosing space marines was because the marines themselves have always reminded me of clone troopers, and as a kid clone troopers were my all time favorite thing from star wars. Even the color scheme I want to paint them is heavily inspired by the applications of color on the armor of various clone trooper legions: a white base with primary color compliments.

[@kiwikicker9263]

The blue and gold and the Roman theme make them my favourite chapter by a mile.

[@thomasswingler174]

I remember I started liking the Space Wolves after seeing a single picture of a bunch of old beardy guys all firing different heavy weapons in different directions. That was all it took when I was 11.