Why Is My Kayak Sinking?! What You NEED TO KNOW About Kayak Flotation.

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Headwaters Kayak

Headwaters Kayak

Күн бұрын

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@maxboo1
@maxboo1 Жыл бұрын
The float bag coming out just goes to show how a situation can escalate.
@BushKayakersCampingAustralia
@BushKayakersCampingAustralia 2 ай бұрын
yeah hey . totally showed Dans experience .
@turtlerides
@turtlerides Жыл бұрын
I usually don't comment on videos, but your dedication to teaching us is outstanding! What you did looked really miserable, but you did it for us and remained upbeat. You're the best, Dan & Seth!!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Thanks for leaving a comment. It was our pleasure….. kinda.
@lexwaldez
@lexwaldez Жыл бұрын
Dan taking a few for the team. That's no joke man. I don't know how cold that was but it LOOKED cold. And can we just talk about Dan hanging out in the water to narrate the video? If you got flipped you'd be getting back in as quickly as possible. Dan hanging out in the water and then going back in! Big thanks for the great content.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Haha it’s been two weeks since his video and I’m still sitting by the fire warming up. 🥶 🔥
@Junior-jm5tq
@Junior-jm5tq Ай бұрын
Dan I have learned more from you than anyone on here. I’m old and retired and low income, but I want to do something, besides sitting in a chair watching tv and waiting to die! Dunham Sports had a Sun Dolphin Fiji 8 ss on sale I put one on lay away. I got the sit on version. It was all I could afford and it fit in my vehicle, which was a have to case for me. I hope to have fun. But I will not be in the cold! Hahaha! You are a good teacher!
@love1tif
@love1tif Ай бұрын
oruKayak owner here, I appreciate this video. I’m in narrow rivers on hot days but good to not get into a crazy unprepared situation.
@upoutandaway
@upoutandaway 10 ай бұрын
Swimming with the paddle was a true sign of a professional hahaha smooth
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 10 ай бұрын
Haha thanks
@OzMan9989
@OzMan9989 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that paddling your kayak to shore is not always an option. Deep shorelines, thick bush, etc may make things challenging.
@buckyak56
@buckyak56 Жыл бұрын
“Oh, wasn’t expecting that.” Classic words that go after “Here, hold my beer.” Kudos for the very informative video. Cheers!!!
@dennisgarryowen8885
@dennisgarryowen8885 Жыл бұрын
Don't know much about Kayaking, but I have been in very very cold water. The fact that you were able to speak clearly and move your body they way you did is amazing. That dry suit is obviously incredible and could be the difference between life and death. Thanks for the video.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
It is a game changer 100% in cold water.
@lunacalm1632
@lunacalm1632 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so brave to tip the oru over! Just got an oru inlet and I’ve been nervous about tipping over. I go out by myself which is the reason I got such a fantastic concept of a kayak. I am in my 60s and it is easy to carry and put together. I got my foldable Oru because I was tired of waiting for someone else to go with me on beautiful kayaking days.
@fmolenaars7853
@fmolenaars7853 10 күн бұрын
It is disturbing how easily the floaty pops out. It must be caused by the name: Calling a boat INLET is like putting a curse on it. Great vid. I will try your swimming technic. It looks great.
@stevehogan8829
@stevehogan8829 Жыл бұрын
haha well one of the good things about being old is you realize what you should not do. I have trouble getting into a dry kayak from land. I'm not kayaking in the cold or anywhere I can't swim in. Limiting but keeps me alive. Enjoyed watching the demo.
@HappyPaddlin
@HappyPaddlin Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Seeing a pro go through the paces in calm water really demonstrates the need for good gear, practice and thinking through these scenarios each time we go out! Thanks Dan!
@EmpireOfNerds
@EmpireOfNerds Жыл бұрын
This should be required watching for every new oru owner. Lot of us are inexperienced paddlers. The oru bull heads seem to be for keeping the structure only and do nothing for buoyancy. I’ll be purchasing float bags. I read ina form the oru float bags on there site don’t fit the inlet/lake very well but there are 3rd part options that for better.
@normascott3613
@normascott3613 Жыл бұрын
Excellent demo in real conditions. I paddle on larger Arizona lakes with 2 seniors in Orus. And the bulkheads and one ladies float bags come out of place easily. But it did show Oros float, and pros can get back in and importance of float bags. One has taken kayak class but self rescue not taught. Keep doing such videos
@alangross2277
@alangross2277 Жыл бұрын
Great video that shows how challenging self rescue can be and the value of floatation as well as proper gear for survival! I have to commend you for the guts it took on such a cold day; it was entertaining and very informative! I had to laugh a couple of times because I know what you're going through to make this video...thanks for your dedication to teaching us what we need and how we can use it to stay safe out there!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@steveeichelberger806
@steveeichelberger806 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all you do to educate us paddlers. Years ago your videos helped me pick my first kayak and your videos helped me pick my current kayak, a Crescent Lite Tackle. I’ve learned how to paddle, how to board my kayak, how to re-enter my kayak after a flip, and so much more from your videos. Thank you!!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. Thanks for hanging out and checking out our videos.
@boatman222345
@boatman222345 2 ай бұрын
Dan always good to see you back and you get 10 out of 10 points for dedication to duty. At the same time I could not helping recalling standing beside legendary sea kayaker John Dowd at a sea kayaking symposium we both spoke at in the early 1980s where while observing self rerscue techniques in a flat calm harbor he yelled, "I'd bloody well like to see ya try that in rough conditions!" In short I'd caution viewers to consider that even an experienced paddler like yourself dressed in a dry suit in flat calm conditions had difficulty pulling this off. Not to say that self rescue is impossibly difficult but rather to suggest that rule #1 is "Don't tip over!"
@jimbobgypson3006
@jimbobgypson3006 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan/Seth. Important content. I hope the key lesson everyone gets from watching is that you really have to go out and do these tests/practice with your own equipment. I have an Oru Bay (closed deck) and I fully know its limitations. I've taught myself a few rolls in it and know how much water it takes on. I've done dozens of cowboy self rescues and have figured out how to empty the cockpit pretty fully before reentry. I've done a few t-rescues with friends. And I always use float bags. I've mainly had it on relatively flat water, but also in some more challenging conditions in SF Bay, like crossings to Treasure Island and Angel Island. The Oru can do a lot, and it can be a great entry kayak for people who have space/transport/weight considerations. The danger I feel is how Oru tends to market things, glossing over how people should truly be prepared and what conditions they should really be in. So I hope people heed what you're saying. And after a year and 35+ outings in my Oru, I graduated to a Seaward Quantum a few weeks ago. There's certainly a difference, but I wouldn't have plunked down for this one if I hadn't fallen in love with the sport via the Oru.
@Alexandre.Savine
@Alexandre.Savine Жыл бұрын
Hey, you are my Hero Of The Day! Bathing in such a weather is not the most pleasant thing to do...
@AirOnTheWater
@AirOnTheWater Жыл бұрын
Great real-life test and demo! First time I see it this well demonstrated for the Oru.
@rkw4565
@rkw4565 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dan, that was very helpful. And we appreciate you getting in that cold water for the comparison.
@DustinRea
@DustinRea Жыл бұрын
The float bag popping out is the best part of this situation because it's the moment it gets real. I have a front float bag and just a sealed bulkhead rear. But I think I might be wise to put a bag in the back anyways just in case the lid fails. A lot of effort went into your video. Thank you
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
still thawing out. 😂
@DustinRea
@DustinRea Жыл бұрын
@Headwaters Kayak Actually been binge watching your videos over the last couple days and because of it, I've fast tracked a lot of learning. I've kayaked a few times in the past and just took the plunge (bad pun I know 🤣) and got a mid level recreational 11ft Boreal Design Riot Edge. I'm very thankful for the no BS approach you take to educating. I will take much of this out there with me as I get some hands on experience this spring. My credit card hates me now, but I have covered the basics without skimping on the important things. I'm now considering whether it's worth buying a wetsuit or not and it's a huge can of worms. It's 1 to 2 hundred vs the 800 to 1200 for a drysuit. Either one will have to wait regardless because my wallet hurts already 🤣👍.
@mrjamrol
@mrjamrol Жыл бұрын
That was quite the eye-opener! I will be practicing kayak re-entry once things warm up around here- thank you for your efforts in putting this together!
@MattGoodfellow
@MattGoodfellow Жыл бұрын
Your sacrifice is appreciated. Great demonstration!
@jakebrakebill
@jakebrakebill 6 ай бұрын
snowcapped mountains in the background kept it real, dang.......... 🥶
@gregausit
@gregausit Жыл бұрын
What a champ, I would not even go on water anywhere near that cold, cause stuff happens, doing it on purpose THREE times, lol, wow, I am not sure if people know how hard it is to do that in cold water, bad enough in warm water !
@schiminski
@schiminski Жыл бұрын
Thanks - great video! One thing I learned about the floatbags from Oru: Do not fully inflate them, they work with 80-90% inflation - and than will not come loose. AND be sure to secure to secure the bulkheads safe with the velcro.
@djslewis
@djslewis Жыл бұрын
Dan - you're bananas, but in the best way!!! Love your commitment to the sport! I think you've masterminded a whole new way of getting in a full body workout!!
@sicecko
@sicecko Жыл бұрын
just bought a sit on top kayak to be able to fish and spend time with my girlfriend on this hobby that is new to us. Watching your videos is super helpful and informative
@CoffeeNCards
@CoffeeNCards Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. People have to account for your expertise as they watch you flip over a kayak. Totally two different worlds watching you and when it happens in real life to them.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Fair assessment.
@eddielikesfishing
@eddielikesfishing Жыл бұрын
After watching this video, it should remove any doubt in why you shouldn't buy a folding kayak. Flipping a kayak and getting back in is tough enough, but Dan did it 3 times in frigid water which makes it even tougher.
@DeepBarney
@DeepBarney Жыл бұрын
No it illustrates why you shouldn't use them beyond the envelope of what they're designed for. They're still a reasonable option for those with space constraints looking to do some fair weather, near shore paddling on calm waters.
@EyeToob
@EyeToob Жыл бұрын
I love the last segment of the video where you're paddling underwater to get to the shore. Thanks for chilling your bones to educate us!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Haha my pleasure.
@sparrowsings4260
@sparrowsings4260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video demonstration. I just purchased the Inlet in black. I went ahead and purchased the float bags as an additional precaution. Of course, the best scenario is to never capsize, am I right? Seeing how it handles in this situation was beyond value. I’m not sure I could haul my ass back into the boat. I would likely just kick the boat back to shore. I never paddle too far from shore for that very reason. Amazing VID. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
@HipOperation99
@HipOperation99 Жыл бұрын
I think flipping over in a kayak is something a lot of begginers underestimate. They might get in one of those sea touring kayaks where you are almost stuck inside them. You could be all alone in the middle of a lake and have it happen for the first time. I bought a wide open pungo just for this reason, terrifies me to think of being underwater with my legs stuck in the boat. Thank you for this video.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
I hear where you’re coming from but I don’t believe you’re portraying an accurate picture. Sea kayaks are easy to get out of if they’re the right size for the paddler. I’ve been teaching sea kayak rescues for 15+ years and I’ve never once had a person get stuck in a kayak ever. If anything learning a proper rescue in a sea kayak as easier than and most recreational sit inside. No matter what you paddle it’s important to practice these things so they become second nature. Thanks for watching.
@HipOperation99
@HipOperation99 Жыл бұрын
@@HeadwatersKayak please excuse my ignorance! Is it just the white water that you are stuck in?
@jimmyz80
@jimmyz80 Жыл бұрын
@@HipOperation99 In both a sea kayak and a whitewater kayak, you decide if you want to stay or swim. You're not strapped into them or anything like that... The spray skirt simply keeps the water from entering the cockpit when upside down, but you use your thighs against the thigh braces to hold your body in the boat if you want to stay. If you want to swim you just relax your legs so they come off the braces and you'll pop out. A quick tug on the spray skirt strap will release it so it's not in the way. I'm still very much a beginner, but I can dump myself from my sea kayak, empty the water, and get back in on my own within 20-30sec or so.
@wisenber
@wisenber Жыл бұрын
I'd recommend anyone considering paddling any distance from shore for the first time flip their boat near shore on a calm warm day and practice dealing with it beforehand. That being said, most sit in kayaks are easy to exit inverted, and arguably harder to stay in without holding yourself there However you should practice popping a skirt off if you're gong to use one. There are a few kayaks that are very deliberately snug fitting making them challenging to enter and exit. Those tend to be Greenland kayaks which are made specifically to be good for rolling. However, just because a kayak is good at rolling doesn't mean you are. That takes skills and practice.
@BushKayakersCampingAustralia
@BushKayakersCampingAustralia 2 ай бұрын
I doubt many people could have pulled off what Dan just did that watch this channel . maybe 29 thousand out of the 129 subscribers . Mate that was epic !
@williamsayles892
@williamsayles892 Жыл бұрын
Man I was cold just watching you! Thanks for what you do!
@artblackwood7936
@artblackwood7936 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it was very well done. I insert the bags nearly empty with the fill valve led out of the end of the boat. Then strap the boat together as tight as I can. Then line up the velcro. I fill the bags with a tiny portable pump and tuck the hose under a strap which keeps the bag with the boat if things go south. Less chance of the bulkhead becoming dislodged, but not 100%.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@kdogg7882
@kdogg7882 Жыл бұрын
One of the main reasons I’m looking at the sea eagle and not the Oru
@NWKayaking
@NWKayaking Жыл бұрын
Great demos on a cold day ! Will have to share with my paddlers Thanks Dan
@jayspot4
@jayspot4 Жыл бұрын
Much needed video - always informative and definitely important to know! Watching the video I was gripped with fear knowing how difficult it looked trying to first of all drain the kayaks and then go back in - and this was watching a pro do it!! Will definitely sign up for a safety course come Spring!! Thanks for all your informative video Dan!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome. Once you learn the skills it’s not that scary. Good for you for taking the time
@DrTommyDDS
@DrTommyDDS Жыл бұрын
Awesome remount back onto a trapper keeper.
@girlinvt
@girlinvt 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about the new Eddylines, but mine has flotation. I tested it out the first day out in it, but it does not sink. Granted mines from the early 2000s. Absolutely a great boat manufacturer, have a Skylark and a Sandpiper both early models.
@mr.z2618
@mr.z2618 Жыл бұрын
Im in Europe buying my first kayak and learning the basics from your video. I need to admit your dedication and experience is top notch. Big fan. Regards
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the message. Excited for you to get out and explore.
@sarahdittner6850
@sarahdittner6850 Жыл бұрын
I only fill the float bag enough to fill the space, not so much that it pushes the bulkhead out. I would not go out in conditions that would result in hypothermia if I capsized. When I flipped mine intentionally to attempt a self rescue, I wasn’t able to re enter the vessel; I was able to unlatch the boat so it did not hold water and easily swim it back to shore.
@jstanton4602
@jstanton4602 Жыл бұрын
Woohoo! Get in that cold water! Definitely worth the watch. VERY useful.
@charleschristensen663
@charleschristensen663 Жыл бұрын
Bless your heart for the demonstration in such conditions❣️
@adobongadobe
@adobongadobe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. I feel cold just watching this video and it's 105 outside!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@diegorootsman3864
@diegorootsman3864 Жыл бұрын
You got this bro! Crazy 30 degrees
@hohopapa4262
@hohopapa4262 Жыл бұрын
추운 날씨에 고생많으셨습니다.
@wonderswedste1789
@wonderswedste1789 Жыл бұрын
This was incredibly entertaining to watch. Do more of these instructional videos please.
@FTF-bv3kk
@FTF-bv3kk Ай бұрын
Exactly the video I was looking for, thank you!
@Billcameratech
@Billcameratech Жыл бұрын
Very nice work under challenging conditions! Great to see the dedication to your craft!
@kathywrightjohnson6804
@kathywrightjohnson6804 Жыл бұрын
You are a brave man! It's way too cold for getting in the water. I try my hardest not to go overboard in the first place. But I think no matter what's I will be swimming the boat to shore to drain the boat and get back in. I usually don't go far from shore in case I do go in the lake. I also put a paddle leash on the paddle so I don't lose it. Especially if I am reaching around the back of the boat for a cold water from the cooler. I can let go of the paddle and know it's not going anywhere without me.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
It’s good to know your limitations. Even swimming the boat ashore is far easier with flotation. A fully swamped kayak is basically a sea anchor.
@MuhGail
@MuhGail Жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing for our safety and knowledge ❤
@Yaktaco
@Yaktaco Жыл бұрын
That sky 10 makes him look like a giant. The legend is,He is half man half yak.
@daltoncason6948
@daltoncason6948 Жыл бұрын
Which float bags do you think would be best in a pelican mustang 100 kayak
@robertkelleher1850
@robertkelleher1850 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! This was the last piece of info I needed before pulling the trigger on the ORU. I don’t have the space for a kayak otherwise.
@nicolebelanger6692
@nicolebelanger6692 16 күн бұрын
So I have a Bay ST and watched the instructions for the float bags; it says the black tube should stick out the end (outside the boat) then you finish blowing it up as it's fully assembled. THEN put the black endcaps over the tube, this pinches the tube so I never really understood why they said to do it that way; BUT from your video I can see why. Those black end caps are very very tight in my Bay ST setup there's no way the float bag would pop out like that. I ordered an inlet today so I guess I see if that same method is relevant to the Inlet or not.
@reddog4096
@reddog4096 Жыл бұрын
Oru’s marketing is putting people at risk. Images of people on their products in jeans on very cold water.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
I agree their marketing is disturbing. One of the reasons I wanted to make this video was to have a clear picture of the limitations.
@tominmo8865
@tominmo8865 Жыл бұрын
GREAT video and public service!
@Phrancis5
@Phrancis5 Жыл бұрын
As a sea kayaker, I've always added a lot of extra floatation when paddling my Oru Coast, but I see a lot of paddlers in Inlets and Lakes that have none or even wear a pfd
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
The coast is a far safer kayak from my experience. Flotation is a must in these folding kayaks, or really any kayaks without bulkheads.
@shettlock
@shettlock Жыл бұрын
Ffs the commitment in this video. Much respect
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
I’m still sitting by the fire 4 months later.
@bobbyhogan9207
@bobbyhogan9207 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video for us beginner yakers…thanks Dan 😎
@denisgilbert1283
@denisgilbert1283 10 ай бұрын
Hi great stuff. I've had an Inlet for 3 years, float bag doesn't work well at the front, no problem at the back.
@kevinwaters-marsh217
@kevinwaters-marsh217 Жыл бұрын
So grateful for your demonstrations. Thank you. Man that looks cold, hope you do these tests in summer months going forward. I just got an Oru Inlet and we flipped ours and it's near impossible to empty. We had to swim it to shore for the recovery. I'm now going to buy the flotation bags for the same reasons you demonstrated. Also going to look at a hard shell kayak to add to the fleet. Thanks again. Love your channel
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Good for you for playing with your kayaks and finding it’s limits! Sounds like you’re going to end up with a small fleet. Have fun and be safe.
@robbossen
@robbossen Жыл бұрын
Nice techniques Dan - learn something new each time I watch!
@JonPaddles
@JonPaddles Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video showing limitations and benefits.
@neilowen9468
@neilowen9468 Жыл бұрын
Great video. The Oru isn’t as attractive a proposition as I thought…! I think I’ll stick to looking for a solid construction!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
We compare the two styles in our last on water review as well.
@garrygadberry2205
@garrygadberry2205 Жыл бұрын
Hey Dan I loved the video as always….Very informative. I was wondering tho on the second run without the floatation if you could use your paddle to raise the yak out of the water to get the water out a little better.
@LetsGoPaddling
@LetsGoPaddling Жыл бұрын
This video gives me a few insights on remounting methods/options. I was learning to get back into my Itiwit x500 Strenfit high pressure inflatable kayak this summer (on flat sea, in low tide). I was trying to adapt the surfski way of doing it but it wasn't going too well. Still as a beginner, coming here in search of efficiency, leaving with a few new ideas to try next season. Thank you Dan. I highly appreciate all the hard work you put out for us out there 👍 Cheers, Tom
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom.
@just-dl
@just-dl Жыл бұрын
Bro, the drowned rat look is really popular these days. You rock that look! 😜 can I introduce you to the paddle leash? I noticed a few times where one would have served you well. I’ve seen some that attach to your wrist, but I have mine connected to my yak. That way, you can grab either boat or paddle and you’re good. 🤗 more seriously, that looked painful. Dude, you struggled and you’re a pro. Us mere mortals would paddling the crystal seas if we tried that! The Ora’s saving grace it’s light weight. But I don’t think I’d ever take that out. I’ve got an inflatable and that’s portable enough for me. The Oru is cleverly designed but this video is about as good an ad for Intex as I’ve ever seen! Even the eddyline! Much better but that’s a tight fit on you! Sitka or sandpiper would probably been a more comfortable Re-entry. Thank you for doing this. As others have mentioned your dedication is noticed and is appreciated.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
I do have a Sitka XT which is what I’d normally do this stuff in, but the Sky 10 was with me that day for another video project. Also paddle Leashes are fine but I’ve always been trained to avoid them because of entanglement. Especially in any sort of dynamic water.
@just-dl
@just-dl Жыл бұрын
@@HeadwatersKayak I can see the entanglement issue…I’d be uninclined to go anywhere that wild, personally. I was looking at Eddyline’s lineup. I’m looking for something long but not too long, stable but high performing, low maintenance but lots of features and priced like a lifetime kayak. That’s not too much to ask, is it? 😜 seriously, the equinox seems to be the closest. I have a drop skeg on my boreal. Do you think the drop skeg is worth shifting to the Sitka line?
@andrewdavies4604
@andrewdavies4604 Жыл бұрын
I hate cold shock....... That was enlightening, I've only ever used a sit on top. I kind of presumed a sit in would just fill up and sink, now I know different. And I'm starting to think that fold up Kayaks need folding up and leaving somewhere out of sight. About the only thing it's proved to me so far is that there is plenty of scope for improvement.........
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Some of our Roos higher end kayaks are much better quality. I tested the Coast and gave it high praise. But float bags are a must.
@rcaviator4310
@rcaviator4310 Жыл бұрын
You should do this again with a kayak that has a single bulkhead like the pungo, and compare it with a kayak that has two bulkheads in the front and rear. It would be interesting to see how the self rescue techniques differ.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
I do have a video like this from way back in the day. I’ll dig and see if I can find it
@winchester655
@winchester655 Жыл бұрын
You sir are a trooper
@Finalldrive78
@Finalldrive78 Жыл бұрын
I found your video both interesting and entertaining, even though I have a sit on kayak 👍🏻
@khelben1979
@khelben1979 Жыл бұрын
Well done! I really appreciate all the efforts you put into making this video! :)
@speedygonzales9993
@speedygonzales9993 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 !!! Hardshell will always be better.
@ajpend
@ajpend 4 ай бұрын
Helpful video. I'd be happy to see more like it.
@nancystrickland1623
@nancystrickland1623 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you did this video.
@andywarhol.
@andywarhol. 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid, and I learn some useful techniques thanks to you sharing your experience & knowledge. But I have to ask one thing. Whose idea was standing up in the kayak to get water ingress -that was bizarre
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 4 ай бұрын
Probably mine. We are simply grown up children playing in kayaks.
@pegasus6724
@pegasus6724 Ай бұрын
Seal 1 knows this man
@MrSneaksful
@MrSneaksful Жыл бұрын
Nothing like waiting a few months and doing that test in Lodi lake....... or not.....poor Dan, thats dedication.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Haha I had the boat for a limited time. Plus Seth peer pressured me.
@MrSneaksful
@MrSneaksful Жыл бұрын
@@HeadwatersKayak 100% teamplayer!
@pauljohnson7770
@pauljohnson7770 2 ай бұрын
Try it in water over head or only paddle in shallow waters
@robertapreston4200
@robertapreston4200 Жыл бұрын
Wowzer..... your are crazy man...... heck no I willing get into the cold water for what?.? Thx Dan. Always keep your camera man so he can record your unconscious self. 😮No... your good. Be safe
@haydon581
@haydon581 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you so much for putting up this video
@CH-iy4go
@CH-iy4go 17 күн бұрын
It looked like you were standing. Could you have done that with the Oru in water over your head?
@glennfontaine726
@glennfontaine726 Жыл бұрын
Was concerned about your paddle getting away from you. Would have been a problem in windy conditions. I don’t think I would want to take an Oru on big water.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
For sure. In the wind it would be gone!
@tinaanderson9501
@tinaanderson9501 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for keeping it real!
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Always!
@OzMan9989
@OzMan9989 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and so helpful.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johndaddabbo9383
@johndaddabbo9383 20 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Black70Fastback
@Black70Fastback Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on cold weather gear? Right now, if its cold, I just don't kayak. Cold weather gear could extend my season. I've already started to gear up for colder weather camping to extend my camping season as well.
@MonkeyAndChicken
@MonkeyAndChicken Жыл бұрын
Well, first off, I applaud you for encouraging people to get in the water and attempt self-rescues, and also for specifically encouraging the use of cold water gear. Oru kayaks are purchased largely by novice kayakers, and most never make the effort to learn safety skills. But I also have to say that your treatment of the Oru is basically a series of examples of how NOT to use the kayak OR floatation bags effectively. First of all, the bags were overinflated, which is a big reason you lost the bulkheads (although from what I could see, the bulkheads also weren't installed correctly). Second,, expecting the Oru bulkheads to keep your floatation in place with one strip of velcro and a 1/2" deep retention channel is something any experienced kayaker would know is ridiculous. To properly install the floatation bag, the end of the float needs to be secured to the loop at the kayak's fairing. You can do this by looping the inflation tube through it and tying it off. Securing float bags to the kayak hull so they can't come out in battle conditions is standard practice for any skin-on-frame, not just Oru kayaks, and it's really just common sense. Third, if you had practiced any of these rescues off camera before filming, you'd have been able to show more clearly how easy it is to perform a Capistrano Flip on the Inlet without any of the embarrassing struggling you were doing. Emptying that boat is physically much easier than emptying the heavier Sky10 with even one or two practice attempts. You can do it with basically zero effort, using just the buoyancy of your PFD, and it's equally easy with or without floatation. Moreover, the fact that a "kayak" that has more open undecked area than not is basically a canoe (and that canoe rescue techniques like the C-Flip are therefore the better choice) is something that should have occurred to you long before you got in the boat, rather than after several minutes floundering in frigid water. Lastly, I don't know what possessed you to attempt solo side entry in either of these boats, instead of just coming over the back deck in a cowboy scramble. Your re-entries were all completely uncontrolled, and would have likely swamped both kayaks in anything other than glass-flat water. A cowboy can be done in a controlled manner in 4-foot swells, and works for both of these boats, even if they're "small for you". I've done solo 10-mile crossings of the Chesapeake Bay in Oru kayaks, and paddled them in 6-foot seas and 30mph winds. I would never in a million years recommend anyone take an Inlet into open water, (with OR without floatation) but the boat deserves a better showing than you gave it here.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to respond in such a detailed manner. Your frustration shows through and that’s ok, I can appreciate your passion. I hear your response about being better prepared and better trained. If this was a How To Rescue video I would have been. This however was me messing around in a couple of kayaks I had on the beach after a long day of filming, and following my own curiosity on the subject. Should the float bags have been tied in? I’m retrospect yes! We’re there any means to do so, or instructions on the Oru packaging? No. It was very realistic to what a consumer might see if they purchased the kit. The bulkhead is trash and no matter how hard I tried it would not fit into the grooves. If I were to approach the back of the Our it would instantly take on water when I slip my 220 frame up on the back deck. Saying that this boat is easier to rescue than the sky 10 is a stretch for me. There may be some techniques that I don’t know about. But in my experience the Sky 10 is far and away easier to empty. If you’d be willing to post a video in response showing the correct technique I will be happy to show it here on the channel for all viewers to benefit from. I always appreciate when an experienced paddler chimes in in the comment section. Thanks for being a part of the conversation
@DennisHeikki
@DennisHeikki Жыл бұрын
For anyone who didn't notice the "Saraaaahhh i'm sinking" reference, watch "Max falling out of kayak"😂
@denisemorrison876
@denisemorrison876 10 ай бұрын
Brrr! Giant (albeit blue, perhaps?) cojones. Thanks for your videos and dedication!
@scubicon1965
@scubicon1965 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan. We enjoy learning from your videos. They are very helpful. We are curious as to if the ORU float bags were installed with the hose on the outside and covered with the bow and stern fairings? Cheers.
@johnwiens9964
@johnwiens9964 2 ай бұрын
My one complaint about the Oru (Haven in my case) is that the bulkheads are hard to align properly in the grooves and tend to pop out easily.
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@MaxKayaks
@MaxKayaks 16 күн бұрын
Was the front Oru bulkhead upside down? Regardless, I think the Oru foot bags are sized for the Bay St model.
@davidegerton61
@davidegerton61 Жыл бұрын
Brave man
@yournumberonepal
@yournumberonepal Жыл бұрын
02:59 "That is such a bummer." 😅 Yeah, that boat looked like a bad time, maybe an inflatable would be better for portability, floatation, and safety.
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