Building such personal relationships and letting us tune in and get to see the internal boards the vibration dampeners the heatsinks tubes was a awesome tour and you feel like this product has some geart and soul thanks Mikey and thank you Nat for bringing us in and for such awesome products which i hope to investigate at some point in the near future
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thanks Harry !
@idudley72Ай бұрын
Love the video, Mike. Thanks for making the trip and bringing back some behind the scenes views from the factory!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@seanrogers6118Ай бұрын
Mikey Salute, Thanks that was AWESOME. Great presentation. I want one.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
You may have one !!
@legrandgroves8560Ай бұрын
Thanks Mikey! Super interesting brand. Outstanding design and execution!!!! One hell of a great trip!!!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Rich !
@gil3greenАй бұрын
Excellent clip, nice work! you were making me uneasy reaching around and handling that large tube lol!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Lol. All good
@connorduke4619Ай бұрын
Awesome insights Mikey! Jay's Iyagi recently named the NAT Audio with the transmitter tube as the best tube amp he has ever heard (and as a professional seller than reviewer he has heard many).
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Think I play with regular "dealer" audio ?? Lol. C'mon !! You know me !!
@jean-martingauthier5551Ай бұрын
Really interesting and instructive, thank you Mickey! and nice shirt by the way ;-)
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@draaronreynoldsАй бұрын
They look amazing on the inside. What speakers are best suited to these high power output direct-heated single ended triode designs? I would imagine that a benign impedance curve is still a prerequisite?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
The big NAT monos are good from .5 Ohm to 32 Ohm. You can call me for the best optimized match. I will consult for free.
@ketubeck7718Ай бұрын
I really can understand your excitement when you are explaining all the parts. Great products great company
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@fabien7079Ай бұрын
Bless you... For the person sneezing in the background. Very well done video, so well made amp.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
I agree... terrific product
@KT88gsАй бұрын
I need this!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Yes you do !!
@jimbreakall9331Ай бұрын
Hi Mikey. It is great that you got to Serbia and NAT Audio looks fantastic. I just wanted to correct something about the QB5/1750 tube. It is not a triode but is a tetrode. Tetrodes have a screen grid and usually not considered as linear as a triode. They might be using it connected in triode mode by tying the grids together. Another choice for a transmitting triode tube similar to this would be the 3-500Z or the 833A tube. These are also well known RF transmitting tubes but can be used for audio. NAT Audio actually says in their description that the QB5/1750 is a triode - not correct - it is a tetrode. By the way, I have many good friends on Ham Radio in Serbia. Some of the guys at NAT might be Ham Radio guys if you asked. Thanks for the fantastic video of this great company. Prof. Jim
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thanks Jim.. very interesting... ;-)
@HotSauseАй бұрын
Looked at their line up for less heat generating amps. While youre there, can you audition the Magneto and the Generator CT amps and report to the Tribe what you hear? Videos on these guys, please!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Magneto and Generator CT are Sublime sounding amps. To date, I've heard nothing made by NAT that did not absolutely floor me. It's why I locked an exclusive distribution deal for North America 5 years ago...
@jasonw512Ай бұрын
Wow. Nice. Thanks for showing us!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
You bet Jason !
@rvaillantАй бұрын
What are the costs and expected lifespan of the tubes used?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
10,000 hours... so 13.6 years of listening every day for 2 hours. $1K per tube.
@charlesmanneschmidt7587Ай бұрын
Agree these are very cool products, and use amazing parts. Thanks for the video! I would just note, though, that virtually all PCBs used nowadays by any company worth its salt employ through-hole plating. NAT's use of curved traces, too, (and lack of soldermask) is very cool, but FWIW I would argue that regular, sharper bends in traces do no harm whatsoever. You would have to get well into the MHz before it would truly matter to performance. If anyone attributes this to better sound quality, that's fine too! In any case, the PCBs, like the rest of the components, show the designer's passion and attention to detail. I like that he does them that way.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Yes, exactly. If he's designing pcbs fit for NASA microwave transmission, it's probably going to be above average for audio. More than anything it let's us know about the designer. How Dejan thinks. He does not settle for what's "good enough for audio". This is the main message. ;-)
@labalo5Ай бұрын
Mikey you bring us such a unique product line. And no one is more emphatic about it!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thanks !
@dragocelander6671Ай бұрын
Outstanding summary Mikey! Love those red leather shoes!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Right ??
@QuintEssential-sz2wnАй бұрын
Thanks for this factory insight. I love tube amps and it would be awesome to own a NAT amp. Love the aesthetics and concept.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@IOSARBXАй бұрын
OCD HI-Fi Guy, Subscribed because your videos are always awesome!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thx !
@TheCharlesAtozАй бұрын
OCD is still gone! Good to see you while you are on the road. 😊
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Yeah buddy. In Rome right now !
@johntan4835Ай бұрын
As usual VERY INFORMATIVE
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thanks !
@auggysimcityАй бұрын
Though where is the "artisanal" build quality, and ribbon connectors..lol ok M.L. THIS is true equipment. Thank you for this video. Very well explained.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Correct ! Thank you
@silviosarunic6709Ай бұрын
Great video. Come here to Croatia too. Its summer now 😎 According to topic of video. Great amps, from great engineers from Serbia, but my choice will always be SET amp: Lamm ML3 Signature 😎
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
RIP Vladimir. Good stuff. Not as robust and strong as NAT, but very good sound. I want to come to Croatia and visit Split !! I'm planning a trip to Ljubljana, with Zagreb, so perhaps we meet then Silvio !
@fullranger3435Ай бұрын
Amazing quality of design, built and parts. Unique, performance oriented, building philosophy. It's the first time I see extensive internal vibration control, (actually, the second, there is a Chinese guy in Canada using silicone everywhere inside, but here we also have order and discipline). Also very high level of modular shielding of different blocks or parts. You have skyrocketed my appreciation for this company with this presentation. Well done OCD Mickey! So anyone in need of many watts, can now properly listen to tubes unhindered. Because of NAT Audio.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
For sure. ;-)
@agear2Ай бұрын
Yeah, most manufacturers are too lazy…..
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Or they need to plan for high production level which means commercial level parts
@cbo1Ай бұрын
Maaaan I want one of these puppies so bad.
@PhlooredАй бұрын
Holy shnikes! ❤️ Lustworthy gear. Magnifico!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Right?!
@Charles12509Ай бұрын
Hello, this is an excellent tour…wondering if you are going to the Fischer&Fischer facility for a tour or is there a video already…before I buy when you get back…
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
I am.. that one will be the best of all the vids... it will start at the quarry
@Charles12509Ай бұрын
@@OCDHIFiGuy sounds excellent Mikey….when you get back we can have serious conversation….Charles from Puyallup…my ship landed….
@DavidGildenАй бұрын
Bespoke design at its finest ❤
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
For sure..
@tallpaull9367Ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity, how much did Jay's Iyagi charge for the NAT review?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Lol. The paid part was for that stand up desk. I have no idea what he charges. I did not pay him, nor did NAT. They don't even know him. He stoked me in the vid and I had no idea until i actually watched the video today. And here I thought the other channels hated me... kudos to Jay.. he was being honest.. are you disappointed I actually DO represent the best products made ? ;-)
@iczermanАй бұрын
200uf at 1500 volt rating film cap!!! WOW!! Is it permissible to know where they source coupling caps?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
No, I'm sorry. N.A.T. does deep dives to find their parts and then hordes them. It's part of the benefit of owning them.
@iczermanАй бұрын
@@OCDHIFiGuy Understandable! Thanks!
@fabien7079Ай бұрын
Hey Mikey, what is the life span (Hours) of the ceramic tube?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
I'll ask. The glass tubes are 10K hours, these must be more
@tubefreeeasyАй бұрын
Gotta love OCD Engineering!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Totally. I get it. Big time...lol
@emersonperin4109Ай бұрын
Wow! I worship at the alter of SET, no feedback, class A and transformer coupled. That's what Im talking about! Beautiful video that showcases the passion for quality components and thoughtful build. I build in a similar fashion but given the constraints of very high voltage and the power level of the tubes we commonly work with you can't get that kind of power in this kind of design. He does. Absolutely awesome!
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Emerson !
@iczermanАй бұрын
Did a little digging on the QB 5... The tube has 1600 watts TOTAL plate dissipation. When used at 50% that is around 500 watts plate dissipation which will roughly equal to 100 watts output in SE. Anode voltage is 4K ( WTF). Filament is 10 volts at 10 amps (!!!) Anode ( Plate resistance) is 16K-26k ohms. The this tube has 2 grids..so load resistance is unknown...but output transformer must be HUMONGOUS! The inter-electrode capacitances are not that far off from a 300b/ 2a3 and since its a transmitter tube the amplification factor is quite high...which means maybe ( however unlikely) a 6sn7 may be able to drive it. That is a supposition...tube curves while triode connected are not supplied with the sources available...So NAT has to measure it themselves....which is what one would expect. ;)
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
6sn7 is a highly microphonic and "spongy" tube. 6n6P is used as driver I believe..
@Mr.McIntyre14 күн бұрын
😱🤯🫨🤩love this
@r1verrat1977Ай бұрын
Where are the Magma M's and Magnetic pre amp?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Same place the Magnetostat SE, MAGMA EVO, and Phono preamp are
@r1verrat1977Ай бұрын
@OCDHIFiGuy 😆.. if you're still there, I would love to see a video like this on the preamps.
@philb-ze8szАй бұрын
You must be selling NAT, that's when you rave. And put down other products. Good salesman.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
What did I put down ?? Lol.
@m4ril4r4njinh4Ай бұрын
Great products. However, the best PCB in audio signal is no PCB. Point to point wiring is the way to go. Audio Note kondo knows that. Cary audio knows that. Not saying that NAT audio sounds bad. They probably sound wonderful. However, it would be better if the were point to point.
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Trust me, nobody is complaining. They are all thrilled !! So go buy Audio Note if you like..
@MasterofPlay7Ай бұрын
is it better than GaN?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Incomparable.
@MasterofPlay7Ай бұрын
@@OCDHIFiGuy why not? You have both and you sell borh
@LorenzoNWАй бұрын
@@MasterofPlay7 I assume by "incomparable", Mikey meant to say that NAT Audio is in an entirely different league.
@auggysimcityАй бұрын
@@MasterofPlay7I'd guess different flavors for different players. vanilla or chocolate. porsche, or aston martin.
@MasterofPlay7Ай бұрын
@@auggysimcity he might afraid of hurting somebody's feeling if he says one is better than the other 😆
@PP-nh1lvАй бұрын
Are you sitting on the toilet at 12:23?
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Lol. totally growing a tail....
@johnpetrakis379Ай бұрын
The Russians built tube factories like Reflector etc for military use. Vacuum tubes are impervious to EMP, what happens when you bust a nuclear cap, especially in the upper atmosphere. In 1976, a Russian pilot defected to Japan in a MIG-29, and of course, it got totally taken apart down to the screws. They were amazed that it used, yeah, you guessed it TUBES !!!. But, you knew that right. they only kept the factories up and running after "Audiophiles" bearing gifts from the West ($$$$) talked them into keeping them up and running, for all of usLee Deforest lovers out there. alos years ago, crazy Dennis Had was building some insanity
@OCDHIFiGuyАй бұрын
Mmmmkay
@johnpetrakis379Ай бұрын
@@OCDHIFiGuy Yeah, I know, nobody likes a know-it-all, but hey I'm watching and it looks like you're having fun and that's what counts!