Why is NTUC so closely linked to the PAP & should that change? | Help Desk

[@LawrenceWank001]

Why did PAP make a policy U-turn? They should explain honestly to electorates.

[@martinarchie2902]

Can you find another trade union in the world where the trade union chief is a minister? Are there any countries? Please let me know if there are,”

[@MichaelLim0907]

Can you find a country other than China where they have unions but workers have not taken to the street to strike

[@ryojinkiiro940]

Are you sure? Who is the current trade union chief?

[@LonganLee]

​​@@MichaelLim0907North Korea? Pakistan? Russia? North Korea is rules by their Workers Party

[@tonylim1385]

so what's wrong as long as it is effective. Gerald Giam or Diam could not show any evidence that such relationship is detrimental. its just sour grape lah.

[@ivanteo1973]

@@tonylim1385define effective. You mean silencing workers voice?

[@martinarchie2902]

Pritiam Singh suggested that the public is entitled to question whether NTUC’s close relationship with the People’s Action Party (PAP) presents a conflict of interest.

[@MichaelLim0907]

It is the role of the opposition to show that there is a conflict of interest ( which I really doubt because unions are the biggest voting block) citing clear examples . Anything less is pure speculation and inciting negative reactions towards NTUC which is irresponsible and unprofessional

[@MichaelLim0907]

@@martinarchie2902 the public is entitled to question any policy . But don't you think since opposition have been voted into Parliament and hence have parliamentary privileges they should do their homework and pose the proof of actual incidents of conflict and ask PAP to answer for it. Why push the issue back to the voters?? Because WP could not find incidents of conflict . Really ??? then why raise it and distract the debate on an important policy that direct affects platform workers

[@tanchye1720]

NTUC prices are reasonable today. If NTUC becomes private and become another Cold Storage, catering for the upper classes snd expatriate. Prices will ‘shot up to the sky’ Will you prefer this?

[@ongernie7216]

Hey! wrong channel! Dude

[@bibikaur2800]

Informative history lesson. Easily understood.

[@martinarchie2902]

Giam also raised concerns about NTUC’s structure, particularly questioning why the Platform Associations need a Council of Advisors with the power to dismiss the Executive Council and why these advisors are predominantly PAP members or MPs.

[@LonganLee]

Dishonesty is Crooks

[@LonganLee]

Dear mothership, episode suggestion: who are the friends of the pap. Which are the youtube channels, influencers, tiktoks ? How does the funding, if any, work? How shiok is it to earn from whats funded with tax payer money , if any . By tax payer, i mean inclusive of the 40% who are Opposition voters.

[@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo]

in 8 year share never have any salary.$0. if you done want dame need but no any income.

[@SohaiKia]

seriously ... who gives a fark about this?

[@LonganLee]

The Flawed Logic that Independence is bad: 1. Is the Judiciary Independent? Should it be Independent? Of course everyone would say it should be right? So Independent Union is only the right thing to have and it is Undebunkably correct. 2. Why so Defensive when WP want an Independent Union? Is the low EQ defensiveness suggesting it is not independent or it must Not be Independent to be good?

[@magnusthor6259]

In the first 5 posts 3 belongs to Martinarchie. Festering ground for opposition talk points.

[@wongon1168]

Where is democracy , other day cannot

[@mrtienphysics666]

PAP was founded by union members in 1954, hence the symbiosis.

[@zaintonputeh8475]

Not ntuc. That union is s.t.c. Singapore traction company which later he closed forget what s.t.c. had done for him. That is p.a.p.

[@mrtienphysics666]

@@zaintonputeh8475 union-party symbiosis, tat is the point

[@martinarchie2902]

I think we are entitled to think that the independence of NTUC ought to be better than this.”Mr Leong Mun Wai PSP

[@MichaelLim0907]

We are entitled to think what we want ( because you cannot kill an idea) but does not mean our thoughts when put into action will benefit the country. You have to look at the results achieved and weigh it against the harm caused by this relationship and see which is more beneficial for Singapore as a country and society. History has proven that the country has benefitted from this relationship much more than opposition wants to admit

[@平常心-d4k]

It’s challenging to finish the video when the host can only Yah Yah and doesn’t sound experienced enough.

[@LonganLee]

Did LKY protested with the Union in the early days?

[@hatchegg80]

calvin looks about 70

[@LonganLee]

I second that. He can choose to be the mascot for Boomer who is in his 60's looking frail with wrinkled skin. Almost grandfather looking

[@JamesShong]

I think he doesn’t look too bad. Mid 30s

[@martinarchie2902]

Gerald Giam clarified that when he used the terms “tether” or “untether,” he meant that the NTUC and the PAP should be separate and independent organizations.

[@MichaelLim0907]

PAP and NTUC are 2 different organisations that functions with the sole objectives of bringing economic progress , social cohesion and improvements to the lives of those living and working in Singapore. PAP and NTUC knows that unless they give the people of Singapore hope in their future they cannot continue to exist . This existential threat is what binds them together and strengthens this "close relationship" which will continue regardless of what the opposition wants the people to think .

[@LonganLee]

Yes, he did well to explain the meaning since English is ambiguous inherently

[@lilianteo3229]

This case/Issue, forwarded to The "Peng Hock" Enabling Act.

[@DianeTripp-b3q]

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[@JIANGTG]

The good tripartite relationship is important for the unity and stability of the nation .....

[@LonganLee]

It depends on whether it's one party controlled or independent tripartism. Tripartism by itself does not mean much until you go into what type of tripartism it is

[@ccpomicron5533]

If driverless taxi come into sg, a lot of drivers will lose their job, will minister as union chief stand on government's or worker's side?.

[@LonganLee]

It won't be soon. By that time the delivery people already retirement age

[@erictayverystrongimaginati1662]

Ntuc 😊

[@HulakariHulakari-ju9yb]

Gave history of pre independence unionism during colonial era but didn’t even know more recent post independence history that late Mr. OTC was once NTUC sec gen. This is laughable. What’s even more laughable is that OTC was SG NTUC for slightly more than a decade, not short stint to be forgotten by one championing a cause! I bet he doesn’t even know why OTC was sent by LKY to NTUC? Moreover OTC didn’t speak up against govt as union chief but when he was our first EP. I wonder if he knows the reasons for speaking up, NOT against the govt but FOR the ppl of SGP n FOR SGP? Let’s get this clear. When someone, whether opposition or commoner, speaks up for SGP & Sgpreans, it’s not tantamount to speaking out against govt. The govt is promoting n encouraging “active citizenry”, getting engaged in nation building for a better SGP, TOGETHER? Active citizenry”, I hope, doesn’t mean only supporting current policies, be YES MAN (in the words of Mr. Philip Yeo, eunuch), not or dare not speak up, whether he’s right or wrong, so long he’s talking about policies n systems n not attacking integrity of or criticizing anyone personally. That’s constructive “active citizenry”. I hope it’s not viewed as destructive citizenry? Not speaking up or dare not speak up is in itself “destructive passive citizenry “! Also to correct one of the panelist. SIA pilots didn’t go on “strike”! They went on a “work to rule”! Know the technical, in fact legal, difference btw the 2. I m not WP supporter. But let’s give some attention in this case. Since history n birth of unionism during colonial era has been cited, let’s try to understand the context of necessity of symbiotic relationships. During that era, the British lorded over us. It was masters-slaves relationships! There was no local govt headed by locals. The local workers were unrepresented n unprotected. I believe this was the reason for the birth of WP started by late Mr. David Marshall to galvanize n represent local “slaves” vs the colonial “masters”! The relationship then was confrontational, not symbiotic or synergistic! Today, SGP politics n unionism have evolved. It’s no more masters-slaves relationship but elected reps n electorates partnership. To quote ex PM LHL, now SM, it’s servant-master, hence the other side of fence must be master-servant, but definitely not master-slaves! Plus with our long history of tripartism n symbiotism, no govt or union will want to dismantle this “unique” only one in the world relationship. So qn to ask n litmus test for NTUC as well as SGP is whether NTUC n SGP can still survive n succeed independently without a minister at its helm n many MPs in its ranks? To say SGP n NTUC cannot is to insult all NTUC non PAP affiliated officials n members. Proponents see the symbiotic relationships as “alliance”. Opponents see as “controls”! So lets rally call Majullah Singapura. This rally or clarion call is exclusively reserved for the nation SGP only. Let’s not give it a twist n start rallying call Majullah NTUC or in no time it’ll breathe new life into Majullah NTWU, Majullah FDAWU, Majullah SPWU…. or one day we’ll all Majullah in different directions 😂!

[@LonganLee]

Bravo! Encore!

[@Star-zi4ez]

WP is rubbish 👎👎👎👎👎

[@ongernie7216]

You mean your mother and father. For bringing you into these freaking world.

[@MichaelLim0907]

Firstly it is certainly out of order for the opposition to raise this issue of PAP linkage to NTUC by hijacking the debate on protecting platform workers. I think it is unprofessional and opportunistic . On this basis the WP had done themselves a great disservice as the optics certainly show that WP as a workers' party has thrown workers under the bus to further advance their own political agenda

[@munster1404]

Most of the rights enjoyed by workers today were won by industrial actions such as strikes. It is a powerful tool to level the differences between the employing and the working class. Do not ever be gaslit into developing a fear of protests and riots managed properly and done in a right way,

[@LonganLee]

Wanting Independence is not what you accused. Let's say you got sacked as IB, would you want to seek recourse from a Biased entity or from a Biased entity or from an Independent entity? No one in the world can debunk wanting a truely Independent entity

[@LonganLee]

You need to ask, does Singapore law allow protests? If it does, you need to question your Gov why is it allowed. Your thinking is anti-democracy. The Constitution of Singapore empowers voters to change the gov without use of force. It is the Supreme Law of Singapore. Are you against democracy? If soz you need to ask your gov to abolish this right and abolish elections

[@hatchegg80]

it's miraculous even oxford can't teach calvin to speak english

[@JamesShong]

How so? He speaks natively pronunciation. No Singlish

[@LonganLee]

Everyone , including his biological knows what type of role he is playing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣💨

[@anziar3038]

Wow! It's so obvious that PAP is the only competent and responsible party in s'pore, with the PAP govt ranked the most effective in the world.❤❤

[@SohaiKia]

shaddup la u 🤮

[@SohaiKia]

fark off la everyday pumping propaganda

[@SazalibinkamsirSazali-zu5yo]

🤔🤵im not working in tupf club So sad im open the secret so long team look for this how to done the tip.

[@chennathan-w2g]

@ Calvin talk cock and sing song, Presently the only independent union not affiliated to NTUC is the The Air Line Pilots' Association Singapore (ALPA-S) is the professional association and registered trade union established to represent pilots based in Singapore. Of course The PAP and the NTUC have been trying hard, too hard perhaps to absolve this pilot Union into NTUC to no avail.

[@zaintonputeh8475]

We as members long time ago buy n.t.u.c. shares when they started but now gets 0000000000.