Why is Rocket Raccoon SO BAD... and SO GOOD?! (Marvel Rivals Season 1)

[@ADeliciousMango]

Is Rocket good or bad? Let me know 👇

[@DyingBreed8]

Hes good because he can heal from mars, has revive and can be terribly hard to kill.

[@xaimbotgodwarx9280]

How you think dps never get heal because the stopped support cant aim on you this all time is tall you go 2 tank so you can see is 20k heal on tank and racoon heal better the dps and save the game more because is dont need to aim to heal only shoot heal

[@Felinadaschema]

I think rocket is ONLY really good if there a punisher or bucky he literally needs that team up. Combine that with his ult and its like punisher has an infinite ult its actually busted. But if there is no bucky or punisher rocket is kinda a throw pick.

[@TheLostDude7]

He's good if you know how to use him, like every other character The thing is, racoon is even better, Like everyone else when they take advantage of the team up If you have bucky or punisher, tell him when you want infinite ammo up. Racoon heals may not look appealing or good , but actually, it's the way you use it. Don't be afraid to spam it, and angle it on an allies feet Not only heals, he can shred and actually do decent dps on ppl. Also, he's E revive, really changes tides of the battle. And his ult... Use it when you're entire team is there, and if you have a luna it mantis ult at the same time, you're likely to dominate. People often don't like the the way he heals, but when you try him, it's actually really easy... Make sure you take advantage of the slow orb on the ground And safe your dash for for when an ass like Spiderman is on you. Also remember, you can climb around quickly. If your revive is on cd, once it's about 10 sec, dash and crawl away and respawn it Always respawn it where an enemy is most likely not to go to. I see a lot of new racoon players all spawn his revive, in front of their allies. I'm sure you know what happens there...

[@Dangerwarp]

@@Felinadaschemanah id win

[@MrSoupMen]

Rocket hate is cope ngl

[@ADeliciousMango]

Can't lie he's kinda fun to play and turn my brain off lol

[@pouncingfoxes]

Tim was just raging after getting clapped.

[@Mr.Ford3350]

Tim's complaints make no sense. Dang, Rocket's ult just repels the enemy team for free for the entire duration? I'll just drop it near the capture point, we'll just take it for free since they'll just walk away! His arguments make no sense when you think about it for longer than 10 seconds. I get that he'd rather have an immortality ult since they're insanely OP, but just imagine how the game would play if those got nerfed and suddenly you could kill those ulting supports without a one-shot. Rocket's damage boost would suddenly skyrocket in value when it makes the difference between killing the ulting Luna or not killing her.

[@Hypersoldier123]

@@Mr.Ford3350lol, no it doesn’t. I’ve never heard of anyone being like “oh rocket ult, yea we’re in trouble now” Tim’s argument was that rockets ult has a radius you HAVE TO play within other wise it’s pointless, but even then when the enemy has defensive ults it’s 2x pointless

[@Hypersoldier123]

@@Mr.Ford3350rocket himself, is only necessary under niche conditions, like if there’s a Bucky or punisher, but they HAVE to be a good Bucky/punisher. Then we have his ult which can only be used effectively paired with a punisher/bucky ult under the condition the defensive ult the enemy team has isn’t being blocked by shields, and the support isn’t moving a lot and there isn’t a counter ult for the Bucky/punisher like a namar, moonknight, mag, etc

[@jjnhjnh3378]

People will stop complaining when they realize Rocket is meant to be an OFFENSIVE Support that enable aggressive plays for dive comps and stop crying about him not being defensive enough. Lots of player used to say Hulk, wolverine, black panther and storm were F tier because they were playing all of them wrong lol

[@enderbolet]

You sir are based

[@Xokken333]

@@jjnhjnh3378 The rockets that don’t figure that out never make it to past platinum. It’s always the worst players complaining about a rocket. Your whole team will get wiped and then you’ll meet them all the way back at spawn and they’ll still blame you. I cannot out heal your bad positioning and I cannot get many kills alone against 6 people and that’s why they’re stuck in diamond because they don’t take accountability for what they did wrong so they never get better than above average.

[@doremiancleff1508]

People saying "got carried" are same people who say "It's my team's fault". They simultaneously claim to carry teams and to be victims of unfair matchmaking. It's a TEAM game. Everyone contributing to a collective win. Just because you "popped off" a little, doesn't mean tank wasn't sweating his head off, trying to create space for everyone having options to do cool stuff.

[@YoungSinatra25]

Rocket is an S-tier character. A literal strategists by definition where as the others are "healers". Rocket can self sustain, flank, dive, or heal bot as needed. His ult turns fights. His Pun/Bucky team up is powerful. Truth is if he gets any type of significant buff it'll make him OP.

[@YoungSinatra25]

With that said they could increase the armor packs hp. People ignore them half the time. Even Rocket players walk pass them.

[@alexm.6557]

I’m ngl when rocket ults I’ve never noticed a difference in dps and if the other team has a support ult then his ult literally gets 0 value and you lose the team fight. That being said I find the character really fun

[@johnnydunlop6246]

Yeah he's fun but when it comes down to it rockets just not the best pick especially in higher ranks your going to lose to 2 supports with better ults if the matchups are fair climbing with rocket is making yourself suffer unnecessarily

[@aottadelsei980]

Rocket’s ult is weird as when you put it down the enemy team will either run away and could loss valuable time if done so or it forces them to counter ult instead which could be beneficial in the long run. Or they could just get swamped. That being said Luna’s ult it’s literally rockets and mantis ult but better as she can move around with the same damage buff that rocket can do as well as it heals better than mantis as starlord and psylocke can counter ult mantis but not luna’s. Only downside is that you are stuck in a dance animation

[@JerryLeeHowell2]

Rocket Ult is complete trash.

[@elizabethp.5448]

I have been a Rocket Main this season (I was a Mantis and C&D main last season.) Rocket is great for climbing and solo queue because his abilities are able to cover for the mistakes of other players along with the fact that Rocket plays the way that people who have never played strategist/support think the strategist role should play. While he does not have many counters for the enemy team, Rocket can counter weak links on his team. (I'm looking at toxic DPS mains that will go 3 and 10 after traveling to the other side of the map then blame the supports.) This is probably why he has so much success in the lower ELOs. Here is a list of reasons what has led me to playing Rocket over other strategists this season. 1. There have been too many times where I have watched my team avoid defensive support ults rendering them useless or refuse to push up with the support ult. Rocket's ult is great for Domination matches and chokepoints on payload matches if you have at least one good DPS on the team. Also teammates can't avoid it like they do with C&D's ult and it will end up being utilized. 2. The Punisher/WS team-up is unreal and great for duo queue for the reason's you listed but also because of the 15% healing bonus it gives Rocket. Also Groot mains getting an extra +150 health passive is also a bonus. 3. Rocket's healing ability is one of the few that has a chance of healing flankers that are not in direct sight with a few cheeky shots. 4. His revive ability is great if used strategically. I try to only place it down before the team's tank or highest elim DPS is about to go down so they can stay in the fight. 5. Rocket is the only strategist that can hold point without the assist of an ultimate. The amount of times I have run circles around an entire team during overtime has been a game changer in so many matches. 6. Finally, since I am not distracted by combat, I have more environmental awareness than when I play other heroes. I am able to focus my firepower on getting rid of ankhs, turrets, spider nests, etc., for my team. I know I am doing my job when I get solo ulted by a Moon Knight. In summary, playing Rocket gives me a sense of agency that I lacked with other supports. "S Tier" supports like Luna, Mantis, and C&D are sometimes limited by teammates ability/knowledge of their kits, and I would end up being angry because I was giving my teammates tools that they would not take. With Rocket, I am supporting my teammates no matter how stupid they are and feel like my performance is more linked to the outcome of the game.

[@nullsleep5178]

When I play rocket sometimes I'm the only thing contesting objective. I've stopped vehicles from moving for over 30 seconds because they just can't catch me. I have some hilarious clips. Sometimes they don't realize they're not progressing on objective because I'm standing there contesting. I know I shouldn't be there as a healer but sometimes I'm literally the only one contesting the enemy. And I can still spam heals while contesting. I'm sure if I was a grandmaster I'd probably learn something stronger... but genuinely sometimes I feel like I'm the only thing keeping my team alive. If I stop and shoot my gun for more than 10 seconds my team is dying from lack of my heals

[@ulrich101]

I’ve got a few clips running around point as rocket myself. Very satisfying character to play

[@SnowRabbit-bq5yc]

I'm a grandmaster and people still do this on rocket 😹 thing is people sleep on him because he doesn't have the same standard heal everyone for a million health ult but rocket is so good at surviving dives because of how much movement he has (even better because marvel rivals players have the awareness of goldfish and don't ever turn around to help healers so that's a bonus aswell) but people only hate him because he's not some cringe meta slave character but honestly I love rocket racoons

[@nullsleep5178]

@SnowRabbit-bq5yc thank you for you comment!! That makes me feel a lot better about playing rocket tbh. I assume my teammates roll their eyes when they see me pick him 😂

[@Altmer353]

And its so fun to melt tanks that decide to dive me. Like. Every time Venom or Thor decides to get rid of me he regrets. I either melt him to zero or deal huge damage and run away while my team finishes him off. I do believe Rocket players that do 0 damage are doing disservice to their team. Sometimes you gotta be aggressive and help to take down enemy tank or diving dps. My average damage per game is something like 4-5k. Its less that other healers of my rank, but that damage is very efficient. It always leads to me or my teammates finishing off enemy hero.

[@SnowyTari]

I do the same thing with him lol

[@KillerMoustache]

Tim the Tatman too used to getting carried, too heavy for Rocket.

[@IAmGeorgeLucas]

The ONLY thing that matters when assessing if a character is good or not is how often they win given how much they are picked. Thats it. It doesn’t matter which ult you got wiped or saved by. It doesn’t matter if you popped off or got owned on a specific character. We are a tiny specks in an infinite multiverse with subjective and flawed opinions. Rocket has a crazy win AND pick rate even in top 500 lobbies. He isn’t flashy but he’s consistent as hell. Stats don’t lie. Rocket is the best support in the most objective sense. If you get flamed for picking him, kindly tell them to flark off.

[@kevingriffith6011]

I can't believe I'm doing this, because I *love* Rocket. I wanted to main him, even... But I've got to defend the Rocket haters. Rocket's whole thing is that he provides low but consistent healing over the course of a long fight while being essentially un-divable... and depending on the rocket player he's either an insane duelist or a complete healbot. The biggest problem with Rocket is that if you've got a rocket on your team you can't play like you would with any other support. There are plays that you could make with any other support that you can't with Rocket because you simply don't get enough healing fast enough. Rocket only has one speed: He has no healing cooldowns, no healing ultimate, just 70 hp/s. Consistently. Forever. Until you walk out of the immediate path of his shots or he has to do literally anything other than healing you (like reloading, healing someone else, peeling for the other support with his shockingly good gun or running from a diver). This puts your team in a situation where they have to play around your shortcomings as a support in a way that just makes the game less fun for them. The guy who really wanted to go in as Hulk or Venom and pound some heads might have to just accept that the only way they're going to be able to tank this thing is with a more conservative tank like Strange or Magneto because Rocket just can't keep them alive like a Luna Snow or Cloak and Dagger could. Rocket is good, *really* good. Like, highest winrate support in the game good. Having a support that will 'always heal, never die' is a winning formula, but I can't deny the negative impact he has on his teammates thanks to the tools he lacks to get there fairly.

[@JupiterTarts]

He wont bail your team out of catastrophic situations or burst heal, but he gives them so many little edges going into the fight: amplifier, very steady constant healing, a safety net for that first out of position death, armor packs, infinite ammo for Punisher and Bucky. My mans a little pack of goodie bags.

[@danielcolon7602]

Exactly

[@TwoTailedGamerYT]

So basically what I get from this about Rocket is…He’s actually perfectly balanced…he’s not insanely strong…but not absurdly weak either, he’s literally in the dead middle of good and bad, Those who can play him well, will help carry the team to victory!…and those who play Rocket solely because they like him but can’t play him for crud…then Rocket ends up Ruining the match for that team, I main Rocket as my healer, and sometimes I pop off with him, and sometimes I do crud all with Rocket, yet those are results that I’d expect from a Balanced hero! So the debate on if he’s good or bad, all depends on how good the player playing Rocket is, Blame the player not the game is how this is basically going only…it’d be more like “blame the player not the character”

[@kazab00]

What is great about Rocket in low to mid ranked matches is that his kit makes it easy to cover the mistakes of your teammates, while supports like Luna have game changing utls if your team sucks and doesn't take advantage of your ult it ends up wasted. But with Rocket's ult you can just place it down whenever your team decides to push and get great results and even if they don't push and it gets wasted, no worries you can get it back pretty quickly. Now add to all that the mobility it has with the jetpack and wall running and the ability to bounce your healing orbs around corners while you keep yourself out of sight and you can have an unkillabe support.

[@alexforce9]

Im a Rocket main but I also play Luna - People hate on Rocket coz they suck at the game. They are too used to get massive healing all the time so they dont get good at positioning or avoiding damage. No one is hitting the MoonKnight keys, they run around chasing kills , leave the support to do the objective and then complain they dont get healed fast enough being 300 feet and two walls away.

[@ShivaRaye]

He's not only just mad. He's SANGRY. He is both Sad and Angry. If he'd stand in the amp and hit a target and dodge, he wouldn't be so Sangry. I just hit lord on Rocket and love him. Who you calling a raccoon?

[@Hypersoldier123]

Hitting lord on rocket is pretty SAPRESSING, both sad and depressing that u held down right click and was a moral support while everyone else clocked in overtime just to carry you.

[@bighorn6964]

​@@Hypersoldier123lol skill issue. Enjoying ur room temp iq doofus.

[@Hypersoldier123]

@@bighorn6964 bros coping cuz he can’t handle the truth that the easiest support in the game blows lol, learn how to aim shitter

[@coachred6872]

@@Hypersoldier123judging by the way you carry yourself, you’re very low skill. I’m very certain more than a few rocket revives were used on you… stop dying bby

[@Hypersoldier123]

@@coachred6872 I'm a tank main, entire job is to fight and make space on the frontline. judging by the way you think rocket heals do that much you probably barely have an hour or less as tank in ranked.

[@audiewalters8275]

I love how the counter arguments are “his ult is useless if someone else ults”… You mean like almost every other character in the game?? Dude there are ults in this game that can be cancelled by regular abilities… when did this become a valid argument 😂

[@oscarlydusk]

Guys Psylocke ult sucks cuz I can eat her with Jeff. Please buff her. 🙏

[@Xokken333]

@@oscarlyduskit’s just low elo players that can’t stay safe because they can’t use his movement abilities like the wall run. I’m diamond 1 usually about 12-2, 8-12 revives and 40-60k heals.

[@daedricwinters2979]

I'd argue that Rocket's Ultimate is not a game changer in the same way other support's ults are. As Rocket, you can get your ultimate charge SO FAST that it acts as a sort of rally to enable your team to push, especially if you wait til your whole team is with you. And after a probably 2 more team fights, he'll just have it again. Sure a Luna or Mantis can counter ult, but maybe conserve the CYA, heal and enable a teammate to provoke the Luna/Mantis Ult, and having your BRB ready for if a teammate doesn't last AFTER the enemy ult wears off, THEN use CYA

[@casbalt7763]

Yeah i played a game today for instance i feel like his damn ult went off like every damn minute

[@Pockets868]

Alternatively, with how fast he gets his ult, you empower your teammates to boost their damage, and thus get their ultimates faster as well People spend so much time looking at dmg dealt or healing dealt, and those are good benchmarks for performance, your real economy in the game is players alive, ult charge, and time

[@SnowRabbit-bq5yc]

Actually his ultimate can counter support Ults

[@Moh-problems]

you can actually outburst a luna ult with rocket ult if your team is smart/ focus firing and sometimes i do get teams that are locked in and my ult does win

[@ardidsonriente2223]

Rocket is not about saving bad matches, but about making good matches your team standard. People demanding to be "saved" are literally admiting they already fucked it.

[@FistyMcWalrus]

Dude the teamup and coordination with Punisher and Winter Soldier is totally slept on, or maybe I'm not experienced enough? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ADeliciousMango]

Oh punisher and Bucky are NUTS with a rocket buff

[@meandeverything9513]

Got a game where Punisher and Rocket were together the entire time, dominated the match

[@Hypersoldier123]

The buff only works if ur Bucky punisher is good, and even then ur just getting carried applying nothing more than inf ammo and moral support while the entire team works to carry u

[@bighorn6964]

​@Hypersoldier123 that sounds a like skill issue buddy. U are complaining in every comment. Just get good goofy.

[@Hypersoldier123]

@@bighorn6964 bros talking but hasn’t even touched gm, lmk when u make it to the big leagues pup

[@guga5708156]

There is a FUCTON of people being carried by "ults that make the whole team invincible and flip the moment of the game". Thats why 3 support comps almost always include mantis and luna, and why some people get pissy when they are not there. Rocket is great on a good enough team, "the enemy just has to walk out of his ult", well, its an objective game, not a pure deathmatch, throw it on the objective and the enemy team will have a hard ass time securing it. Rocket basic kit is STRONG, so he has more heal uptime, a heal that heals more and more targets, more mobility and more damage, with some great utility. Mantis and Luna are better on the ults popping, but rocket it better the rest of the time. He is a consistent support without peaks, but without lows.

[@Hypersoldier123]

No, rockets essentially only good when the entire rest of the team has to carry his ass. When the enemy has 2 defensive ults, but you only have 1, you’re essentially playing with a handicap. Sure, you could win in handicapped conditions but at the end of the day that just meant the entire team has to work overtime to carry a rocket, had to play 3 ranks above where they currently were just to boost a rocket.

[@coachred6872]

No you’re handicapping yourself by saying “only instant heal ults are useful” doesn’t matter that rocket consistently gets more healing done than anyone else in a match if someone knows how to use him. I love using a ranked match example where I hit around 66k healing the next best was an enemy Luna with 42k. Yea I won. If Rocket is such a useless healer why is his winrate so high in comp?????

[@Hypersoldier123]

@@coachred6872 rocket heals, are slow. sure you're healing a lot, but no one on the team can feel those heals cuz they're too busy fighting and dying because you're heals are too slow. And you're not the reason the team won. If you go back and look at the record, you can see it was bc of ur dps and tank, and the one defensive ult your team had that prevented them from dying.

[@SteelTiamat]

​​@@Hypersoldier123And you know why the team isn't noticing the heals and are be busy fighting instead? Because the support is keeping them alive. It's almost as if this was a team based game that doesn't entirely rely on one player to win.

[@Hypersoldier123]

@ no, bc rocket has the slowest heals in the game

[@daedricwinters2979]

What I don't understand is Why that guy complaining about a healer's damage numbers?

[@Hypersoldier123]

Because supports, are supposed to help do damage and secure kills when possible, not just heal bot all the time

[@user-jk9iu8nj7t]

Because most people think that the support role in video games means to just spam heal but in reality, you want to do damage every time your team no longer needs healing (this will help build your ult faster and actually support the team rather then sitting in the corner trying to be a heal bot) also i think he was mad because rockets damage was so low it implies that the rocket player was just heal botting and running away the entire game (which doesnt really help the team)

[@Altmer353]

@@user-jk9iu8nj7t It helps, but that Rocket only plays at 70% of his possible efficiency. Rocket's gun does huge damage and you should use it at key moments to help out your team. You dont ever sacrifice much of a healing doing that. Fire couple of healing orbs and then shoot your gun. Those orbs will be healing for enough time for you to deal decent amount of damage. And sometimes its even better to switch completely to dealing damage to finish off stalling enemy quickly. Heal later.

[@user-jk9iu8nj7t]

@ good point 100% agree

[@bighorn6964]

​@Hypersoldier123 the rocket had the highest amount of assists goofy

[@GeekyDud]

don't care rocket is hot

[@ADeliciousMango]

🤔

[@alexsanimeart5706]

Squirrel Girl fan too I'm assuming

[@GeekyDud]

@alexsanimeart5706 couldn't be less of a fan 💀💀💀💀

[@Justin6400]

Facts

[@holli4447]

Rocket Raccoons ult does save your team's life... By making sure the enemy team DIES!!! THEY CAN'T KILL YOUR TEAM IF THEY DONT EXIST

[@KiruParu]

That is the truth. But people won’t believe that they got 40%dmg boost and still lose lmao.

[@coachred6872]

@@KiruParuyup. “It couldn’t possibly be my aim and actual ability to kill, it had to be this rocket who did less than a 1000 damage this match” ignoring the rockets 30k+ healing on a normal length match I’ve actually been called a terrorist in a quick play for playing rocket raccoon, never mind the fact I had the sidekick and healing badges and most healing…

[@Xokken333]

@@coachred6872 I love going from grandmaster to quick play, this is REAL firepower!

[@brunoramalho7012]

he dont die

[@ADeliciousMango]

He is a slippery fella!

[@johnnydunlop6246]

But his team does

[@Hypersoldier123]

But when the entire team is dead what does that matter. They only had 1 defensive ult, compared to the enemy’s 2 bc there’s a rocket on the team.

[@bighorn6964]

​@@Hypersoldier123 u sir have brain damage

[@Lornext]

Opportunity cost is simply something that these people do not understand. All they see is ults killing and ults saving... While most of the gameplay is actually not that.

[@hbshadow8981]

For the ppl who say his ult isnt good, it gives a 40% dmg boost That means a character that does 70 dmg will be upgraded to 98 dmg heavily increasing their overall dps for its duration

[@fatalgaming6244]

As an average-skill Rocket Main, I'll give my perspective on why I understand his flaws but I find them overblown: First, my win-rate with Rocket is high (75% in 32 comp games at Gold I) because of my team. Rocket will never win MVP in a full comp game. Rocket will never clutch a 1v5 with just my gun and mechanical skills. What Rocket will do is send long-range heals that sustain and keep my team up to keep the chances of a fight being won higher than if I didn't. Staying alive and rally with my team instead of being staggered, while not making much of a in-game difference, helps with team morale as even if the Moon Knight got an ace with his ult, they still couldn't kill me because I wall-crawled 80 meters. In our minds, that mean they can't be that much better than us. It's the little things for rocket that make the difference. Second, Rocket's Ult isn't game changing or breaking. He won't save you, or keep your team up. What it can do is give your team a boost on a 50/50 coin flip fight. Lots of time, Luna Snow or Mantis will ult, and instead of panicking and popping my damage ult, I'll sustain my team then pop my ult to capitalize on the chaos. Despite Tim's insistent the team will "run away" when they hear his ult, they don't. That's not how most people play this game. That's why people still shoot at Luna or Mantis when they ult. Assuming players will make the right decision every time, especially when they have no choice but to contest or lose the round/match is wishful thinking. Third, his team-up bring value to really strong comps. Punisher, Winter Soldier, and Groot become significantly better if their Rocket plays in Tandem with them. With my Soldier friend, I'll chase with him into a 1v1, throw the ammo down w/ some heals and walk away as he banishes them. Punisher's w/ the ammo boost becomes stronger than he is w/ the turret, making him a nightmare to fight w/o shield. Finally, Groot gets a 35% damage reduction when you're on his back, making him significantly harder to kill and that makes a difference when you have to stall or drag out a fight just long enough for someone to return w/ their ultimate. Fourth, his damage is not that much, but that's because Rocket should shoot when the opportunity strikes. Low tank w/ no supports but is getting away? Dash and finish them off. Iron Man or Storm in the sky causing chaos? Dash up there and get them out of position. Need to force CDs on healers or ults from DPS out of panic? Give them some gatling love and they'll drop everything for you. His gun is also great at melting utility like Moon Knight's Ankh's and Loki Clones bc of his high rate of fire. Disrupting those players without directly fighting them and allowing your team to chase them brings immense value in freeing up mental focus and limiting the enemy's team chaos. Finally, his BRB won't win you games, but like the coin flip, will give you a better chance. Again, Storm's ult may kill you, but Tim's dramatic asssumption that Storm will just hunt them down and finish them off a second time is wishful thinking. Assuming the average/above average player will always make the right play in every situation is wishful thinking. In real gameplay, the BRB allows my DPS to take riskier fights, disrupt their backlines knowing it won't entirely throw the fight, and get them back faster. Sometimes, my tanks will get jump by their entire enemy team, and instead of it being a 5v6 w/ 1 to no tank, it becomes an even fight again. Even if a player gets revived when the fight is lost, it's alot easier for the both of us to escape and meet our team halfway than us just all dying and respawning. My team has learned to understand "You have no one with you, run away" as a signal for retreating and regrouping after respawning. Is Rocket the best strategist in the game? No. Is he the worst? Maybe in the wrong hands, but with his team-up, utility, high fire-rate gun, and consistent healing with strong surviability, has made Rocket not only the most enjoyable character in the game for me, but someone that my team always asks me to play as because they understand that there can be more value from a strategist than just immortality. Please let me know what you think, and hopefully ppl who want to play rocket but have been nervous to will read this and feel inclined to play him, it really is a fun time.

[@michaels2569]

He really does shine when you have a competent Bucky and Punisher on your team. His gun is surprising good at shredding tanks in close range. Take the off angle or boost above a tank plus if you are landing headshots within 10meters you can melt tanks. Once you know his engagement range with his gun he can actually melt people and with his very tiny hit box it can be challenge.

[@Xokken333]

@@fatalgaming6244 GM rocket approves this message

[@aj_mick]

The reason you're hearing a lot of whining about Rocket being a terrible healer is simple. Those players have come to rely on burst healing. Rocket Raccoon doesn't do burst healing. He essentially does consistent healing over time and he does A LOT of it. If you're playing Rocket and your team keeps this in mind you can absolutely carry the game. Is his Battle Rebirth Beacon a game changer? Eh, that's debatable. If you're an AMAZING Rocket player with incredible game sense, you can toss it down just at the right time to instantly bring back a key teammate who is about to go down. For those few, the B.R.B. certainly can be a game changer. Most people aren't able to do that however and at best it usually becomes just a one-time use death insurance that may or may not be useful. I find that I get the most out of it when I just chuck it down in a safe spot at the beginning of a big team fight. This gives a bit of protection to that person on your team who is most likely to die first. You could argue that it sort of turns a 6v6 into a 6.5v6. Rocket's ultimate definitely isn't the best in the game, but it's certainly not as bad as Tim makes it out to be. It gives teammates in its radius a 40% damage buff. That can be pretty impactful if used at the right time. Sure, if I drop it before a team fight the enemy team is probably just going to avoid it and wait it out. But if I wait for the team fight to kick off, it can and does give my team a big advantage.

[@SnowRabbit-bq5yc]

Genuine question but when has a rocket just ever randomly thrown their ultimate down? They always do so in a big fight so I have no idea what tim is even talking about. "Yeah guys rocket put his ultimate down let's just all walk away from the point and let the enemy team get it"

[@Moh-problems]

@@SnowRabbit-bq5yc rocket is goated tim is just raging

[@Snow-fn9bk]

@@Moh-problems usual activities for that crybaby

[@leschroder7773]

The reason is because were in a sustain meta rn. Rocket is played like every other support which isnt how you play him imo. Rocket is the only offensive support in the game, his kit is completely based around out dpsing and outliving the other team. Its better for rocket to play in obscure spots and put his revive mainly in spots so a dive or a bruiser comes back in a favorable position. As thats where hes best utilized. Sure every other healer can do it better but its the fact Rocket doesnt need to see you to heal you and if he want to he can hide in places nobody looks and just heal bot the dive. And with 3 supports rocket can play significantly more agressive and punish anyone who over commits or secure a kill because of his insane movement. So rocket sits in this weird position where his kit is under utilized and hes not really worth bringing over 3 supports with 45 seconds worth of immunity because of the current sustain meta. Unless that changes rocket will forever be in the "good but theres better options" spot

[@blacksepikseye7300]

0:21 he sounded exactly like chris Pratt there

[@rimpurimpu1]

I didn't know Alex Jones plays Rivals

[@Sotanaht01]

Adam warlocks ult is crap. If they gave Adam warlock Rocket's BRB AS HIS ULTIMATE, he would instantly be a better character. Reviving the team almost never works because the enemy already has the space and the team dies again. That's before you factor in that Adam's ultimate revives with only 100 hp. It literally only exists to pad out enemy killstreaks at this point. Your BEST CASE for an Adam ult is to start a new team-fight about 10 seconds sooner than if you had just waited for respawns. It has to be done outside of combat to work at all, and that means that Adam has to be outside of combat, which means that the team fight needs to be OVER. Rocket's BRB simply negates early picks. That's it. Players revive with full HP, they usually aren't in immediate danger, but they come back in time to participate in the team fight instead of allowing the enemy a 5v6 mop up. With a rocket on the enemy team, you need 2 picks over the enemy before you can start the fight instead of 1, AND they have a healer who is so hard to lock down you may as well not even try so Rocket is definitely not going to be one of those 2.

[@Sotanaht01]

Also Rockets ultimate. If the enemy just "walks away" you know what just happened? You got a free win. That's a teamfight you won, without even having to fight. You may as well have just Aced the enemy team with one button press. In practice that rarely happens, enemies WILL engage on the amplifier. Often they'll even pop support ultimate to "counter" it because going in on a team fight with an Amplifier is like going in 8 v 6 against. That's still not as strong as an ultimate that just wipes the enemy team of course, but you have to respect it.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yes

[@willbarnes1282]

So glad I stopped trying to learn Adam and decided to learn rocket and invis woman. (I tried playing offensive characters but they just kinda really don't do it for me especially since we have 5 insta lock DPS players every-single-game.)

[@Rhythmech01]

So as an Adam warlock main I think you're misusing his ult. I personally mostly use it after 1 or 2 people die, (generally after a tank dies, because other people will die after usually). Rather than trying to revive everyone just revive a couple people so you can keep pressuring them with a full team. Although I'm not some top player or anything. But also I heard this from a Adam warlock guide, and it seems to be right imo.

[@Sotanaht01]

​@@Rhythmech01Which is better, using Adam's ult after 1 person dies, or having a BRB up to automatically revive the person with full health? I think you just proved my point. I used to be a GM Mercy 1 trick in the early seasons. Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, I was there when it was written.

[@Ibrahim-wq8cf]

I do not care of the others are strong, I love that Racoon.

[@Hugh-mz1ul]

The way I use rocket ult is as a counter to other strategists ults. Many of the duelists roster can shred through the healing of other strategists ults with his ult. Punisher and Thor are a good example. And if you can duo queue with a flanker of diver duelist, they can live in the enemy back line with you

[@TheKingJJ13]

Iron man ult can one shot any healer ult, Penni’s mines can one shot any healer ult. His ult being able to get countered isn’t a negative thing because every ult can. You usually lose team fight because y’all get picked off one by one, and if you all die at the same time then you just got dicked. Rocket isn’t the best strategist but he’s the best healer, I started actually trying to do damage with him now and I’m not losing no 1v1 with him. His gun shreds tanks and anyone at close range it’s not even funny

[@Jlopezocasio]

His bouncy healing balls give him great range as you can heal divers without putting him at risk and without leaving your backline without heals.

[@redstoneactive6589]

I think he is quite good. (not just because i just made a guide on him) I just think it is a community wide skill issue. a well optimized rocket can get healing to places no other healer can and help people in places that other healers would struggle with. I just think most people have a massive skill issue and aren't making use of everything he has to offer.

[@DarrenLeadfoot]

THIS IS ROCKET LEAGUE!!!! Wait wrong thing

[@ADeliciousMango]

They did just add Rocket League as a game mode though 💀

[@DarrenLeadfoot]

@ I will smite down anyone who compares the two. MARK MY WORDS ITS NOTHING LIKE IT 💀

[@Tit-Ulus]

Sounds like some angy dps 😢

[@sibsart2039]

The only thing I hate about Rocket is that if you aim at 15* downward you hit the ground. But he needs is either the ability to remote end his spawn even while stunned, or for his ult to have a farther radius.

[@sev1011]

I started Marvel Rivals playing Rocket cause he was my favorite in the MCU, but after getting to play the other heroes and enjoying the support role, Rocket's kit of healing/damage/revival/and scurrying around just fits my style. The downside is now that I have to deal with the uncomfortable fact that he's getting dogged on for being different and versatile instead of being an op healer

[@salkaver6324]

what makes rocket bad is players that don't want to aggress with him. Players that wish to sit in the back and do pocket will at times win games but they will have to also deal with the fact that they're not using the gun for support as well coming out as not a consistent amount of wins

[@jamielynn2585]

I’m a Rocket main, and I get about 18,000/10min on my average. Highest heals were 32,000 in domination. I’m sure there are way better Rocket mains, but I rarely die and keep consistent heals down and revives. A decent Rocket will at least get 3-4 revives a game, basically cancelling a few ults, and will lilely get 8-10k healing if they focus on positioning and survival. Good Rocket mains will always watch their airborne heroes health, keep a revive beacon up and out of sight close to the fight, and step in to help melt tanks and sway the fight. The only DPS he should be doing is when attacking tanks when the team is healed up, don’t chase kills. You are support, not a main healer, which means you keep a whole bunch of people healing all over, stay mobile to stay alive, and zip in to help when you have the opportunity. I consistently outheal most healers just by numbers, but without good positioning his heals can be just average enough that your tank dies with too much pressure. Hes great for low to mid level gaming, top tier he just can’t burst heal or defend against multikill ults. Super solid pick for most games though, 8/10 for me.

[@JordTheeNord]

That rant is legendary I'm dying laughing over and I'm a rocket main xD

[@OnlyTidus]

Like how no one ever toggles to gm+ which is where tim was playing at in the rivals tracker 😂

[@Snow-fn9bk]

At GM+ Season 0 Rocket has 51.51% winrate 20.49% pickrate 0.20% banrate with 15,511 matches, Season 1 52.17% winrate 28.59% pickrate 1.15% banrate with 14,035 matches. Season 2 Rocket has the highest winrate of any strategist but is 4th for pickrate.

[@OnlyTidus]

@@Snow-fn9bk I wonder if he realizes stats update and I'm part of the one influencing that stat

[@TiesunFroggy]

I love rocket, I play him as a dps and support hybrid, and I found that I get wayyy more value doing dps, most rockets heal bot, which is why he has a bad rep.

[@Humpdurious]

My brother mains rocket when we need heals, I rarely struggle staying alive with him. Rocket is great, the issue is people watch their favorite KZbinr say he's bad and they can't form an opinion of their own so they just parrot what they said. Every time I see a big KZbinr make a tier list I kinda dread it. Teams will get straight up tilted if you're not picking their favorite KZbinr's s tier heroes.

[@awesome19ssbb]

Imo rocket is really good outside the amp and revive tool which could use a small tweak like add more survivability to them. just currently the game favor brust healing like luna/sue ult then what rocket can do.

[@ADeliciousMango]

I agree! Other than his ult (which is still a significant buff in damage don’t get me wrong), I think his kit is outstanding

[@awesome19ssbb]

@ADeliciousMango it is good but it just needs some kind survivability attach to it, like it give you 100 armor as long you still in it range. As for the revive tool just rework the armor pack to be passive regen instead of going out of your way to pick them up.

[@wichiewamirez5599]

Rocket hate is unfounded. I’m tired of it and I will never switch when asked. Because my rocket cooks and I don’t care what the drones say

[@Urrelles]

Rocket is the best at spreading out heals to a spread out team. Shoot 1 orb in the general direction of an iron man who is hurt. Pretty much guarenteed to heal him while you focus ilon other people. He's the only guy (other than mantis) with a heal designed for you to shoot out 1 or 2 orbs, then go into the gatling gun for a few seconds. Easiest self healer of all the strategist.

[@ikb9386]

Rocket is my main for matchups where there’s a bad composition (anything with 4 or more dps for example). I can run up flank points and spam some heals before getting back to the fight and I have a lot of juking power which helps my survivability. Luna and Mantis ults only do so much when your team is never pushing point together.

[@Banshee.bagpipes]

When a grown ass adult starts screaming like a toddler I mute, block and leave.

[@SnowyTari]

Idk i have done some silly things with him, Payload, i used as cover, to stall it, And going behind the enemie line shoot at the healers, and tanks rejoing the fight Love his wall run and jet pack

[@Urrelles]

Rocket's revive is valuble for flankers. Those special people who are never in LOS for a heal. If the beacon is in a good spot for your flankers, they rez and continue harrassing backliners. Yeah a good flanker shouldnt die. But we know reality.

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

People too used to playing sloppy and getting bailed out by the "stall the game" ults.

[@brexstickbody9711]

With 2 healer lineup Rocket Raccoon is viable and best but with 3 healer lineup you need all healer to do damage to makeup then Rocket Raccoon is not that good

[@wontononionslicer1004]

When I play raccoon I just have to handle everything myself.

[@drpj3230]

anybody who says rocket is carried by his team must also say he has a passive luck ability that just so happens to put him on good teams more often than other heroes

[@Zenozzio]

Rocket’s ult can be VERY useful when its overtime

[@kevingriffith6011]

The funny thing is, both camps are right. Rocket does have the highest winrate of the supports, he is unquestionably a strong character... but people who don't want a rocket on their team I think are totally justified. I really do think that Rocket puts more of a burden on the tank players in your lobby than any other support. He only has one speed: 70 hp/s with gaps for reloading, potential missed shots or if the situation the tank is in demands that they move out of the path of rocket's shots. No cooldowns. No healing ultimate. That's... not a lot of healing, and you've got to share that with your whole team... To put it into perspective, it takes Rocket nearly 10 whole seconds to heal Thor from 1 hp to full while doing absolutely nothing else. On top of that, if he wants to do *anything else but commit his entire APM to healing* then the healing stops, and there's no emergency burst heal he can use to rescue you. I'd wager that most brawler-type tanks can't survive on that little healing potential, which means that if you play rocket then your tank player needs to switch over to Strange or Magneto or Captain America so they can turn off the damage long enough for you to catch up. The trade-off here is that you really... don't have to do much peeling for Rocket. He can take care of himself for the most part, and if you can kill the enemy supports before he goes down then your team probably wins that fight... (And if it wasn't for the aforementioned "the healing stops if he doesn't commit his full APM to it" problem then people would realize just how good his gun can be when you treat it more like a shotgun than a machine gun) This power comes at a cost, though, and I can't think of any other character who has this kind of impact on what their teammates can play, apart from legitimately not picking a support.

[@kylecouture1917]

NetEase has a serious problem. They have 4 characters with zenyata ults are their ults and they last way longer than zenyatas ult. Every strategist released going foward will now have to have a huge defensive ult o they will not be played. Their only choice is to HEAVILY nerf all support ults to the point where they are average. Cut lunas ult healing down by 25%, reduce the uptime to 6 seconds total and increase the ult charge by another 30%. This same treatment needs to be applied to cloak and dagger and mantis.

[@Bak_Madarame]

Rocket really grew on me and i really like him but only when he is paired with a defensive ult support or triple support. I get revived in the most clutch moments too many times to not appreciate him

[@SoloEdgeStudios]

Rocket hate is so forced lol. Awesome video. I sent you an email.

[@ikb9386]

The thing is Rocket has incredible mobility. It’s very easy to hide his revive station.

[@BeholdGaming]

Rocket is a backup support. He should only be used in this 3 healer meta as a third pick, in that role he is very good. In lower elo or if meta changes to 2healer, he'll still be backup. His ult is fine. You can't really run from it like video said unless it's used at start of fight, but it should be used after engagement has already happened so if they try to run it'll just make it worse. And even if it does force them to back up that's still useful because then the convoy can be pushed uncontested a little. Finally, his heals excel in tight spaces where the balls can bounce, so angle shot matters. And we're going to be getting lots of new maps, he could potentially have maps he can solo heal if angles are good enough.

[@kazaba1715]

Yeah I think they need to add a defensive buff for rocket, maybe a 50% dmg reduction? Cause I wanna keep the identity of the ultimate as a offensive ultimate so his ultimate is a dmg amp but still gives some defensive buff

[@nf170]

I think Rocket is League

[@ADeliciousMango]

That's a great point actually

[@Foreriverricky]

I made it to plat this season solo queuing rocket. This dude ranting just sounds like a loser. You pop the rocket ult in the middle of a battle not when you enter one, so when they do run away you shoot em dead. He’s arguably the best healer because of the sheer amount of healing he deals

[@KiraVexing]

If they walk away from the ult, you cap the point and win

[@Zephyrus_KAM]

As a casual player, I enjoy playing and maining Rocket regardless of what others think of him, sure, his C.Y.A sucks, his B.R.B. can be pretty hit or miss at times, and the only thing he does most of the time is W + M2'ing on teammates (probably with 0 deaths thanks to his movility), but at the end of the day he's just another playable character. I'm also not planning on playing the victim by saying that competitive games tend to be more serious and aggressive with their opinions, but sometimes people truly forget that it's just a game no matter how much they want to change it. That's kind of the only thing holding me back from playing rankeds.

[@BerzerkerTreko]

ah yes, lets listen to the guy that got HARD CARRIED to Celestial, I'm sure his opinion is good.

[@ajayesco8209]

My boy rocket is the man to me...🎉

[@voyd234]

dude what. im always happy to have a rocket on my team

[@wesleywheeler7891]

Rocket feels like he lacks impact. Something i do like is that I don't have to have line of sight to heal someone.

[@XxXxXOzoneXxXxX]

Im a proud rocket main, Tim needs to chill out

[@alexsanimeart5706]

I just think Rocket is a balanced character. Not too weak and not too strong. His mobility is up there for sure though. High B tier low A tier imo. But I am in Silver so my opinion could change. Also just got Invisible Woman to Lord

[@Dm-cosmic-chaos]

The problem with rocket is his ult is offensive and not defensive the amp is matter till it doesn't... it's inconsistent

[@swapnajoynath1478]

Rocket is the easiest solo climb out of bronze/silver ever. The sheer quantity of heal spam ensures even the noob psylocke and iron man who cant aim can get kills eventually

[@Espurr.8]

When it comes to rocket i think people sleep on the damage he does because i melted tanks by myself

[@akuladoctor7355]

Numbers, and statistics don't lie. Argue as much as you want, but if he has a great winrate from hundreds of thousand matches, then he does something great. Now i have my own take on this. 1. Unlike many other healers Rocket can use his primary heal on himself. His healing ball can start out slow if Rocket himself needs healing. This is a pretty big deal on lower ranks, because they often forget about healing the supports, and that forces an injured support to use alternative aoe heals for self heal. While Rocket can just keep spamming his balls. 2. The respawn beacon is a HUGE deal on any, but the top ranks. Or a full premade team. A LOT of players get into the mistake of the respawn loop. Basically one teammate dies without anyone from the enemy. Then the rest of the team keeps fighting, and by the time the dead teammate returns another one dies. Causing a constant battle of disadvantage as the team fights with less characters all the time. Because of this the team where the first person dies lose the game nearly 50% of the time. Rocket can grant a second chance on this matter. 3. The argument of enemy running away from ult does not really work, because on ranked you always need to be somewhere. If you get free push on the convoy, or free increase on the objective that's it's own benefit. The goal of ranked is not trying to get kills, or increase stats. It is to finish the objective. If the enemy is scared away from the objective, that will take the team closer to the win. Beside same argument could be used for a lot of characters. Cloak and Dagger, and invisible Woman's ult also aren't going to chase the enemy. And chasing the enemy is not a good idea either, because you abandon the objective, and reduce the respawn loop efficiency.

[@ShivaRaye]

Highest win rate you say? but not on the leaderboard? and... pisses people off? Yup. That's Rocket. Who you calling a raccoon?

[@pedrominecraft2016]

He's cool but sometimes he steal heals by spamming which make other healers charge their ult slower

[@Esteban-nk3nm]

You made lots of amazing points.... Is what I would say if I was a liar. Look the thing about is that 1. honestly dude Iron Man or magcheeto could do that, but you have the option to get out of range before it happens and still have a damage boost compared to Luna ult where people usually find themselves glued to her hip because they are afraid of leaving there safety circle and are made complete fodder by Iron Man because of it, even the eye of agamoto has a range that can be dodged, but if someone needs their hand held that badly C&D can always cover for your inability to escape with their ability. The only thing that makes this more unbearable is that along this long list of things you can do to avoid potentially getting no value out of Rocket's ult, Rocket himself even provides a way out of it people just ignore, in the form of his jet packs that can literally avoid a list of ult's, but no one bothers to pick up anyway. If everyone consistently picked them up Jeff who mainly relies on his Ult for value would become useless over night, but it's to big of an expectation for people to think more than: "if I keep getting healed I won't die".

[@BerzerkerTreko]

win rate being that high has to be from like quickplay or bronze lobbies lol

[@MrMastrmonstr]

rocket is goated if your that woried about having good heal ults run C&D AND Luna with him and have C&D focus more on sucking off hard to hit charcter to get her op Ult faster while rocket gets people in the fight and provides extra heals to the other healers

[@generalvic8250]

I got to Celestial yesterday just with Rocket

[@chrisnoggins3650]

You gotta play right with Raccoon and use his ult at the right time when your team is together attacking.I played a lot with him so know how to play with him.

[@blueblitz283]

I detest anyone that calls Rocket a throw pick

[@mysticduel]

He's my Main

[@Old_Scabby_Lad]

There’s nothing wrong with Rocket. He’s just not as overtuned as Luna, Invisible Woman, and CnD.

[@benjamindaniels9828]

I like rocket most fun healer people just want to feel invincible

[@ryozaki96]

Hey Tiddy, Enjoy the amplifier 😭

[@JohnWolfy]

"Hey didi enjoy the amplifaiya" :)

[@despicableree58]

As a Vanguard, I rate Rocket mains. Here’s a real scenario: Your flank takes their Luna out but gets KO’d. BRB has them back already. The enemy Dagger Ults and Magneto throws his Ult at her. Now you just clean up with CYA. Rocket isn’t bad; bad teams with a character who can’t cover their mistakes with Burst-Heals are bad.

[@bighorn6964]

Seems like skill issue bro

[@WolfMoon351]

3:08 these players are just crying about it like kids. I’m a Rocket player and always will be, so they’ll have to deal with it.

[@dcdubzgaming3846]

in conclusion. hes fawking helpful

[@FpsPuffin]

Bruh I can’t wait to hit celestial with rocket 😂😂

[@tacet6344]

Man people are copping in this comment section saying that rocket is a s tier against all the other better strategist but I do see him as a good strategist but in certain circumstances for example to much open space his useless,when the team is getting pushed back theirs no sustain to survive and many more the only time his great is in not to much space maps/ basically lots of walls for the heals to bounce, having dive characters,having the team up and better yet start shooting the gun then just being in back just shooting orbs around at that point a robot should have played instead of the person playing rocket.😅😅

[@BLOATEDNGOATED]

His ult should follow rocket and heal

[@NeroTheMana]

Rocket doesn't do a ton of damage? 🤔 How am I melting faces then?

[@Pedro38906]

Idk if Rocket is good or bad. All I know is that he is hella fun to play.

[@ashreh]

rocket is great tf, I get like 25k healing a game in quick match with randoms