Why is Skarmory Better than Corviknight Competitively?

Why is Skarmory Better than Corviknight Competitively?
Competitive Pokemon
With the release of Gen 9 Indigo Disk DLC, old pokemon, such as Skarmory have been released into the Gen 9 DLC meta game. However unlike the last genertaion where Skarmory for the first time struggled to be in OU because of contention from Coviknight, it is now able to one up Corviknight in the OU tier and possible threaten it down to UU. Let me know in the comments below what you guys think of Skarmory in Gen 9.
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[@xpreah765]

Fun Fact: Crows recently have learned to use Anti-Bird Spikes for nests to protect them from predators

[@chompy_YT]

I actually didn't know that, pretty cool!

[@CroissantsSlay]

if i recall, they rip off those spikes on trees (that were supposed to ward off birds) to make barricades for nests

[@ammonaustin9081]

Learned* Has nothing to do with evolution lol

[@zaaya7719]

​@@ammonaustin9081🤓 Evolved sounds cooler and this is a Pokemon channel>>>

[@ammonaustin9081]

@@zaaya7719 lol it's all good. It's just a thing in Pokémon that we misuse the term "evolution" since that's what we call the transformations. But scientifically, they're more like a metamorphosis

[@TheWungus]

Corviknight: “Oh, I… I thought you were dead.” Skarmory: “My death was… greatly exaggerated.”

[@raphaelmarquez9650]

Skarmory back in OU is one of those "Return of the King" moments.

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

The OG spiker Littering since GSC

[@traceyiusmemton8768]

Tyranitar on the other hand 💀

[@sensei9767]

@@user-lq4ct6dr5m it didn't get spikes in gsc

[@im_happily_sadd3730]

@@traceyiusmemton8768 Ttar died so skarm could thrive

[@aaryavaze1496]

Them again let the dlc. Mete settle I bet it falls to uu​@@im_happily_sadd3730

[@general.catallion_8054]

it'd be funny if skarmory and corviknight kept switching places in ou and uu each gen, just the ultimate struggle between the metal birds.

[@liamdell6319]

I just want GameFreak to give Skarmory an evolution.

[@joplys2697]

​@@liamdell6319 pls no, it will replace porygon 2 then

[@Cyanidebeans]

​@@liamdell6319No Skarmory is fine as it's own, I'd say a baby for it would be fine since Mantine got one, but meh Besides Skarmory would become unkillable with Eviolite

[@Cyanidebeans]

Yeah lol

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@joplys2697dude how do you expect a mon without trickroom to replace a mon that is exclusively used to set trickroom

[@Derppudding404]

Skarmory saw people call Corviknight a better version of it so it decided to hit the gym till the second gen 9 DLC

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

Nah he bribed Ghold and said "Help me F that imposter"

[@Cyanidebeans]

​@@user-lq4ct6dr5mGholdengo had more than enough money for that though so it was nothing

[@tysonvienneau1830]

It's surprising to see that a gen 2 pokemon, a generation filled with mediocre pokemon, stay relevant in higher teirs Edit: okay I did not mean that Skarmory was the only good gen 2 pokemon. I know there are T-tars and what not, I mean there are pokemon that have never found a niche in any format like damn Sunflora or Ledian

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

I know. Tyranitar sure is great, isn't it?

[@themasterblaze7563]

As it would turn out; an Immunity to the Ground type while also having the single greatest defensive typing ages pretty well over the years.

[@alextheidiot8071]

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 🥲

[@Lightstation_]

​@@themasterblaze7563 an immunity to ground is always a blessing

[@arpandas2243]

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 T Tar is very overrated Garchomp solos

[@AwesomeRaptor21]

Clearly the no 1 reason Corviknight is struggling is it now exists in a game with Tinkaton.

[@wigglytuffenjoyer]

*As Tinkaton flops down to RU*

[@sekaihunter9378]

​@@wigglytuffenjoyerTinkaton afflicted Corviknight with a curse that every time Tinkaton fell down a tier Corviknight also has to fall along with her too.

[@thunderstar7682]

@@sekaihunter9378Adding that to my list of why i hate tinkaton

[@haydenbennett3547]

Let's be real; lore wise, Skarmory would fuck up Tinkaton. It's one of the most aggressive bird pokemon that is extremely territorial.

[@eruptorr9103]

Lore wise Tinkaton is actually corviknights predator is it not? Its dex entry says that tinkaton hits rick into the air towards Corviknights.

[@destructorthedestroyer7651]

Also something of note is that Skarmory did just get access to Drill Run which can actually hit Gholdengo and Heatran for super effective damage assuming no Air Balloon. I'm not sure how useful it will be but that is something to consider.

[@GravityIsFalling]

Uninvested does 38 max to Uninvested gold

[@ramaroy2408]

So it can tickle them?

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

@@ramaroy2408Gho runs the tier, you kinda need to deal with him if you want to rise in ranks

[@KrizzlerYT]

Sometimes you just need an extreme way of walling physical attacks. Skarm takes care of that with the occasional hazard stacking potential it brings.

[@abyssalnothingness]

Why not just use gliscor?

[@LOgo-cv9ur]

⁠@@abyssalnothingnessbecause like he said, gliscor doesn’t have an extreme way to deal with physical attackers. Gliscor doesn’t have real recovery besides poison heal and protect and gliscor can’t really shut down sweeps automatically. It has to rely on toxic to shut down sweeps but what would happen is either gliscor will get killed or a teammate will get killed in the process of stopping a Pokémon thats plus 2 attack with toxic. Gliscor is better overall but Skarm is way better than gliscor when it comes to setting up hazards and walling physical attackers at the same time.

[@soleo2783]

​@@LOgo-cv9ur gliscor has roost too, you know.

[@LOgo-cv9ur]

@@soleo2783 it lost roost in gen 9

[@soleo2783]

@@LOgo-cv9ur Aah, i see

[@Julie-xz3jb]

Corv uses pressure not mirror usually to beat stealthrockers

[@globalistgamer6418]

Yeah, that was a really weird thing to say, it even showed Pressure in the Gen 8 videos.

[@Rs_Aura]

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[@chompy_YT]

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[@petertran9416]

Although Skarmory is higher defense than corviknigjt, without u turn and can set up hazards that corviknight optionally can’t.

[@haydenbennett3547]

It sucks that Skarmory lost Toxic and Defog. Toxic and Spikes is what gave Skarmory an edge over Corviknight.

[@globalistgamer6418]

Toxic had extremely broad distribution prior to Gen 8. If Skarmory was given Toxic back, most likely Corviknight would gain it as well.

[@haydenbennett3547]

@globalistgamer6418 Corv still can't learn Toxic. And most pokemon lost the ability to learn Toxic because Gamefreak wants battles to be faster and it heavily nerfing stall strategies. So far Milotic (who still learns Toxic)and Suicune are the only stall mons virtually unfazed by these nerfs

[@duckymomo7935]

@@haydenbennett3547what exactly does toxic do to stall? Doesn’t it theoretically force the Pokémon to faint after N amount of turns assuming they don’t have rest?

[@pulledpork9778]

@@duckymomo7935toxic slams Pokémon who aren’t prepared for it (not running moves like rest, heal bell, etc.) and sweepers who have to stay in for multiple turns to gain / keep momentum. Toxic doesn’t detriment stall as much because most stall teams are built around stalling and will bring ways to alleviate poison damage (natural cure, poison / steel types, regenerator, recovery moves). Toxic is worse for balance and offense teams since they have less longevity and will rack up chip damage, whereas stall teams don’t need to maintain momentum often, so they can freely switch around to reset toxic’s damage ramp up.

[@lyndontan2260]

Another plus point is that it won't be hunted by Tinkaton.

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[@yoissy]

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[@__-kn5gp]

Really interesting how the meta is shaoping up, im glad some older pokemon like skarmory and serperior as strong ad they are despite power creep

[@jimtsap04]

If they wanted to remove defog so it can feel different from corv I wish they gave it uturn so apart from from blulky hazard setters/removers they can both serve as pivots

[@lenoon3814]

RETURN OF THE KING

[@quinndepatten4442]

We're so back

[@SlasherLink119]

Shit like this always reminds of how much I love competitive pokemon... The new guy comes in, overtaking the veteran, and then the veteran reveals he still has one more trick up his sleeve... Competitive Pokemon Kayfabe is always such a blast after the generations have time to develop and you have distance to look back on...

[@Thicc_mamo91]

From the arrive of corvyknight in gen 8 skarmory was outclassed as a defensive steel flying mon, skarmory is more of a setter, with a lacking of sp def, corvy is bulky on both sides thanks to more hp and decent defenses, iron defense skarmory looks cool but there are so many ghost and special attackers that force to switch skarm, corvy even can use a slow u turn for take momentum wich is necessary

[@DiaSynapsid]

How the tables have turned.

[@DaMrWiz]

I would say it's sad to see one of my favorite 'mons fall from prominence, but then again Skarmory is also one of my favorites

[@jimothycool]

I like this thumbnail!

[@Cottondose]

U-turn is pretty valuable for progress and pressure can be situationally useful as well.

[@thekoboldintheattic8587]

Mmm, a good quality video, now, I must ask, would it be possible for aggron to find a niche with terra, asking since aggron is my favorite Mon

[@nautilus2612]

Hell no

[@hoovybeast0594]

Imma make a prediction before watching. Spikes + Gholdengo. Literally that's it Edit: If a old pokemon has usage in OU, it's literally because of spikes/hazards

[@skyrander]

I don't think Skarmory will be able to carve enough of a proper niche over Corviknight. In the end of the day Skarmory due to this play will face magic bouncers to reverse engineer the role against it like it was in gen 8. Making pivot the better choice in U-turn again. That said. If the meta isn't counter playing Skarmory. Then I can see it's succes being around for awhile:)

[@hugomventura]

the fact it forces in magic bounce users means it's also limiting play on the opponents side. magic bounce itself is high skill high reward. forcing 50/50s means a pokemon is more likely to stay then to leave. its like the situation between great tusk and gholdengo where alot of your decisions are 50/50s in either your favor or the opponents. you can rapid spin hoping for the 50/50 that gholdengo doesnt switch in and threaten tusk or you can knock off and threaten gholdengo.

[@skyrander]

@@hugomventura i agree. Only reason to run it would be if Skarmory become fixed with staking playstyle. So unless that happens it would be no reason thinking Skarmory would replace Corviknight in current meta :)

[@Xenon-id5gq]

Literally can’t stop thinking about why every time you use spikes it doesn’t show on the other side

[@hugopereira2241]

Nice Video, but you forgot one important factor over why Corviknight is better than Skarmory in Generation 8. Pressure. Pressure allows it to have more Defog PP than Opposing Stealth Rock PP, allowing it to keep Hazards off the field permanently.

[@Thicc_mamo91]

Still the meta is lacking defoggers or new spinners , while the increase of hazard, power creep and gholdengo the anti defogger is too much present

[@TaLeng2023]

They should fix Defog. And give Rapid Spin to Pokemon that can turn it into a different type so it can hit Gholdie.

[@zyro7756]

Balance has been restored

[@AI-DreigonGPT]

Still gonna use Corviknight lmao

[@zeta5341]

It's great to know that it isn't Skarmover

[@AI-DreigonGPT]

But we are Corvover 😔

[@zeta5341]

@@AI-DreigonGPT truly

[@pokeperson1000]

“The bird emoji”

[@tavellcoops]

Ive known this since forever sturdy whitlwind is clutch

[@literallygrass1328]

THE RETURN OF THE KIIIINNNGGG

[@MetalSam25]

Skarmory might be better at battling but his flying 'animation' is still dumpster fire

[@Lagi42800]

IT looks pretty good now

[@DjDoxastic]

you're just a bird hater. you don't know that bird life.

[@nautilus2612]

@@DjDoxastic I love birds and bird Pokemon but Skarmory's battle animation is total shit

[@ammagon4519]

I'm unsuprised GF still hasn't given Skarm a proper animation, hey at least it normally stands on the ground now I guess.

[@muhasinwahab554]

Smogon to Skarm after the inevitable Ghold ban: "Get ready to learn UU"

[@BromanderInChief]

Corv almost always runs pressure.

[@mysticstylez19991]

can skarmory no longer learn roost?

[@Eternatus00]

"Hasn't been that long" bro it's been 4 years

[@vivaanchowdhry9718]

But after the video , corviknight is more used than skarmory in usage stats. How?

[@Uvvbreon]

multiple reason, but generally people value corvs mixed bulk and ability to pivot (skarm doesnt get u turn like corv). spikes also likely less valuable due to prominence of boots spam. iron boulder isnt even used anymore, so skarms ability to deal with it is less important. more answers to kingambit are high in ou usage other than skarm. corv gets defog, skarm doesnt. that said it doesnt make skarm bad but this is just likely what people have started to value

[@isuckatgaming1873]

Can someone tell me why cincinno is currently ou Has it just not been long enough for it to move down or is it bossed with the sauce

[@Bluecrimson217]

Technician, Loaded Dice, Tidy Up, Ice Spinner.

[@isuckatgaming1873]

@@icanthinkofaname ok, cool Would've been cool if it did have some secret sauce but being a new release makes sense

[@isuckatgaming1873]

@@Bluecrimson217 does it have tidy up? I checked smogon and didn't see it... maybe it hasn't updated yet? Edit - Nevermind I can't read lol Just looked again and it is there

[@Bluecrimson217]

@@isuckatgaming1873 It's still admittedly frail and lacking in initial power.

[@civilvaril1181]

Great in dual screens HO, a few tidy ups and that thing becomes horrifying

[@Mehtaru]

Good, the rightful king is back in the throne

[@wezen89]

Just FYI most Corviknights run Pressure over Mirror Armour I believe.

[@lemonscaled4274]

Still waiting for the gholdengo suspect test

[@nautilus2612]

He wouldn't get banned anyway. Gholdengo is more annoying than broken

[@pineapple3798]

I like them both

[@neversimpgamingyt]

another gen, another victory or the OGs, taking down the Corviknights, rocky helmet on amoonguss

[@lordmonarch2995]

Skarmary is the OG of course it’s better! Glad you understand that!

[@AI-DreigonGPT]

Our Eagle is so fucke* cauz of a Flamingo 😔

[@brastionskywarrior6951]

Skarmory will always be the GOAT.

[@piggymcooltoxic1904]

Idk why but I now kinda like Skarmory but he’s kinda cool

[@SuperSonicSauropod2401]

Skarmory is my fav non spuedo or legendary

[@delicioushitlist]

Good.

[@MPOTW]

You have spelt Corviknight incorrectly in the title and description

[@chompy_YT]

Whoops thanks for letting me know

[@chic0nic0]

Doesnt Corv get Stealth Rock?

[@Julie-xz3jb]

No

[@AquaQuokka]

funny birb

[@misguidedkpopper8674]

NO. You're RIGHT. I agree. Corviknight is defo dropping to UU or UUBL 100%. Skarmory MIGHT stick around in OU though, there's a chance there.

[@sharkronical]

Gen 3 fans, we are so back

[@malcolmyoung2092]

Oh plesse, run power trip corv and watch it work

[@Nako3]

Is it Deh-Fog or Dee-Fog? 🤔

[@imerebus]

okay but what about doubles?

[@nautilus2612]

Skarmory will always suck there.

[@natelecarde962]

In the words of Jeremy Clarkson, “This is brilliant (Corviknight), but I like this (Skarmory)!”

[@ZackysPizzeriaSecondChannel]

UU is getting a new Defogger ig 😅

[@J.Guerra333]

EV spread and nature?

[@flyjezza13]

Tinkaton hammers aren't made out of skarmory metal

[@ammagon4519]

Not yet

[@seanfarrow9085]

Crow is the goat. Can take special attacks better.

[@max_or_is_it8097]

You guys only just realised?

[@arpandas2243]

Off Topic but can anybody tell Why Hydreigon is not that used?? With Tera Electric it has no weakness and 98 speed is also not very bad when you have dragon dance

[@chompy_YT]

there are better dragon type options rn. Also enam is everywhere and hydre doesn't like fairy

[@victory8928]

Plus having a mon that is very much reliant on its tera is also a liability.

[@butteredsalmonella]

You fell for the Eelektross noobtrap hook, line and sinker LMFAO.

[@deeznoots6241]

Same reason why Spiritomb was kinda garbage even before fairies were introduced, having no weaknesses does not inherently make for a good pokemon. 98 speed is bad even with dragon dance because a lot of people are running scarf users that have base 100 or higher speed, plus Hydreigon hasn’t got enough attack. If you want a mid speed dragon dancer that can live a hit pretty much guaranteed just run Dragonite, multiscale is far better than levitate

[@arpandas2243]

@@chompy_YT Why Hydreigon should fear Enarmorous and other dragon types When I am talking about Tera Electric + Levitate

[@CellThePerfectAndroid]

Why did bro spoiled his own video with that thumb💀

[@m24213]

Corviknight is going to terrorize the UU, If it drops down lol

[@GravityIsFalling]

How

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

@@GravityIsFallingIt's Corviknight

[@GravityIsFalling]

@@user-lq4ct6dr5m You think UU has a reason to be scared of corv?

[@user-lq4ct6dr5m]

@@GravityIsFalling Basically UU Gliscor, a defensive pivot that isn't dead weight and compresses every defensive role in one mon except status and hazards Basically top 3 material in UU right there

[@GravityIsFalling]

@@user-lq4ct6dr5m Ah yes “basically gliscor”…no hazards (not even rocks) and no toxic Dude it’s just a bulky pivot, it’ll be fine

[@douglaspope-gz1eq]

Redemption belongs to skarmary go sit in the corner corvinight

[@toukopaavolainen3566]

Cool video, but i would say that corviknight commonly runs pressure.

[@komujimaru]

roost is the most broken move in the whole game

[@dk2157]

Cause it has spikes.

[@alex122097]

I just like Skarm and glad to see it back, and viable.

[@natcole5981]

Simple answer because tapu lele is not in this gen

[@AtlasNovack]

"fur-aw-thorn"? It's "fair-oh-thorn".

[@Dragonstorm1234]

Nope, that IS the official pronunciation

[@AtlasNovack]

@@Dragonstorm1234 So is jif, but that's not the correct one.

[@Dragonstorm1234]

@@AtlasNovack False equivalency fallacy, Jiff is already a graphics format hence gif, there is no other pokemon with a similar name to Ferrothorn

[@AtlasNovack]

@@Dragonstorm1234 People were calling it Fair-uh-thorn in competitive before it was "official". It's the changing of language. It's like rizz (ugh) being made word of the year by Oxford.

[@cobalt7248]

It's far from Skarmover, ladies and gentlemen

[@MareoYapp]

Because Skarmory looks cooler

[@Maszt14]

This MIGHT be gen 3 OU folks

[@grandmastr2602]

I don’t think this is surprising at all since Skarmory is better than Coviknight in national dex ou and has been for a while

[@quintenalexis4597]

Hi

[@chompy_YT]

Hey!

[@ihopeicanchangethis8912]

​@@chompy_YTHello!

[@TheKillingThrow]

Been saying this for literally years. Also it never did skarmorys job much better . I feel like I beat you on showdown and you ended up making this video. Edit: had to dislike after 2 minutes. Too much cap. Skarmory never fell off

[@yorecf9641]

Yeah. People who say that Corviknight was Skarmory but better in Gen 8 didn’t look past the fact that they’re two defensive Pokémon with the same typing. Skarmory has always been a hazard stacking physical wall while Corv has been used as a defensive pivot and defogger.