Why is Suicide Squad's Joker DLC Getting HATE?

Suicide Squad kicked off the first seasonal content update with THE JOKER. How is it? Let's talk.
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[@commentcop1246]

It's not hate, it's proper criticism

[@synthetiCore]

Eh, I personally don't agree with that. It's pretty obvious Suicide Squad has become the whipping boy for people who just like to complain and trash things. For all of the negative comments I've seen on the game 99% of them are just people dunking on it with single one-liners like "Jonkler" or "Suicide Squad is a joke." It's these types of mindless comments that get repeated ad nauseum that have made me wonder, "How many of these people actually played the game? Or at least gave it a proper shot?" Judging by the Steam reviews I'd wager precious few of the outspoken "critics" actually took the time to understand why the game is a failure, hence the only thing most people can actually say is some canned comment that's been recycled thousands of times. So I think it mostly is hate, yeah. It takes too much time and energy to properly critcise something, and most people would rather just go off of what Luke Stephens or any other YT personality has to say rather than putting in the effort to formulate their own opinions. Just my two cents.

[@cebolinhacalvo7393]

​@@synthetiCore agreed, specially when they start talking about WW's appearence and how she is a man or whatever. Some people be spilling insane deranged bs

[@doomguy9458]

​@synthetiCore idk man, when the company themselves say the game fell short, criticism like that might be valid, especially since it has scummy business practices.

[@synthetiCore]

@@doomguy9458 There's no doubt the game fell short, it definitely did. And I think there's much about Suicide Squad that merits crticism for sure. My point though is there's a difference between proper critique and just hating on something. I think this game has attracted a lof of the haters/trolls/internet goons precisely because it's a game that warrants criticiscm in some aspects.

[@Picksodus]

​@@synthetiCore I am a huge Rocksteady and Arkham series fan as well as DC in general so I will give some of my personal criticism with the game. I pre ordered this game and was super excited and played it all the way through on release. I went in blind as I always do with no outside opinions affecting my bias. It started out pretty fun but the gameplay loop became overly repetitive. There is a huge lack of enemy variety. The story started out okay but ended really bad in my opinion especially with how they handled Batman in this game. I did enjoy hearing Kevin voice act one last time though. It being a live service game is genuinely stupid in my opinion. The game is only interesting during the initial play through because the Justice League is in it. After beating it I personally lost all interest to keep playing because at the end of the day its just a looter shooter live service game. If I ignore the fact that this game is a Suicide Squad game and just another shooter game I still think the gameplay is mediocre at best. Its a shame because I enjoy the Suicide Squad characters but wish it was more in kin to the Arkham Games with each character feeling unique with their own comic traits and abilities. For example, Captain Boomerangs gameplay should be mostly boomerang gameplay but instead you're pretty much forced to use guns and can also use the same snipers as Deadshot which also takes away from Deadshots unique ability to be the best sniper/shooter. Instead the only variety is different guns and some traversal abilities. Obviously this is the case because its a looter shooter live service game but if that's the route Rocksteady wanted to take they should of made a completely seperate IP instead of trying to use the Suicide Squad characters to boost hype for the sole purpose of making a profit. That's what they decided to do instead of making a good game and for Rocksteady to sell out like that is baffling. They use to hold a legendary status in the gaming industry. Now they have stained their name with this mico transaction garbage. The graphics and small details compared to any previous Arkham game is also laughable. Its a shame we waited years since Arkham Knight to be given this half assed "Suicide Squad" game.

[@TheSlapChoppa]

I love Falcon actually getting angrier the more he has to talk about this haha

[@kindafire73]

Fr usually he’s super chill but the grind actually pissed him off

[@SternSupremacy]

When he gets upset, it’s usually justified. I love when he roasts crappy games lol

[@JimTheFly]

@@SternSupremacy Yeah, I love Falcon's chill, but Angry Falcon is AWESOME to hear, because he manages to be in full-on rant mode, but keeps himself in check enough to not reach unhinged level. The balance is great.

[@TheStoicNinja]

Bro had to play this crap só we didn't have to

[@hurdyb1]

This was a great video

[@krixtorei]

Gotta wonder just how many of those remaining 400-600 players are actually reviewers and content creators grinding away to get the joker (or footage in general) in order to make vids like this.

[@nemesisprime4501]

Pretty sure they are. Im just wondering like whats the reason to play this if warner bros already said its a failure. Or the game thats going to shut down early than avengers

[@Back2Life]

One is definitely Paul Tassi 💀

[@heathclips4066]

Ive been playing the game its not as bad as anyone has been saying its like 7/10 but season 1 ep 1 sucked hopefully season 1 ep 2 will have some story content

[@oliath]

I play it regularly. I put about an hour in a few nights a week. I genuinely enjoy the game. It's mindless fun. The combat is a real power fantasy and progression / loop is taking on higher and higher difficulties for better and better gear......just like Diablo 2 or other similar games back in the day. Its season pass doesn't expire. Each season and new character is completely free and joker took a minimal amount of time to unlock. Now I'm just working through the pass and playing for better gear and builds. I don't care if others enjoy it or not but just to provide some context. While its not popular it's fun for the people who still play and there isn't anything wrong with that. I don't enjoy many of the overly popular games so it's nice to have something to play.

[@dangerousdays2052]

Thanks for proving that gamers are all mindless sheep. Yall have never even played this, but yall hating on it loool. What's it like not having critical thinking skills? 🤣😂

[@CaptainNamikaze]

Those random joker themed props remind me of the Willy Wonka “event” in Scotland. 😂

[@year1spiderman979]

Honestly man😭😭

[@Vampirecake]

I didn’t buy the game but this is just sad lol I was expecting something like the pic😭

[@OneColdMonkey]

I love that after years of gamers saying, "We don't want this," it bombs, the single-player Hogwarts does gangbusters, and Warner Bros' takeaway is, "Single player games are dead, we need more live-service!"

[@dansmith16]

They might close down next year

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Single player game, one and done purchase. If they can hook a live-service hit, money again and again and again. As dumb as it seems, throwing things against a wall hoping to hook a pool of whales is something they are willing to gamble on.

[@rexus619]

Yeah, imagine looking at Sony's big AAA releases in the last 6 years, making shit loads of money and thinking "Nah, these dudes are crazy, let's make Captain Boomerang pee on shit". Wild!

[@gooma7942]

A good single player experience is almost always better. But it only makes the execs one decent pool of money. They want ridiculous pools of money that flow in non stop. They will never have enough.

[@Sakisasvictorianmask]

@@TheDawnofVanlife You are absolutely correct, but this also explains well what they do - gambling. And like always, gambling feels nice and exciting as long as you can hope for a great result and crushing once you lose. It's insane that this mindset has become the basis for huge productions, when there's a clear path for less but secure money.

[@christaylor7079]

This game is a super clear example of the folly of top-down design by people who have never played a video game in their life

[@roguerage9328]

That is the biggest fact ever about this game! I can tell by the “communication “ they send us. We “hear” you and we will address….. just stfu, how about that and listen to your DEVS and quit releasing dog shit and endless drip feeds. For the love of GOD please bury live service games forever and play your game before you release it. Sounds simple and you have testers. Who? Sweet Baby video game testers? If you sat down and played your GD game, you couldn’t help but notice the shit we bitch about! What does it take for you to see that gamers care and want to help you but you keep bending us over and asking for more time and money.

[@adad87821]

and they know good single player games can be a success but choose to double down on the crap thats hurting them

[@christaylor7079]

@@adad87821 that’s because the people who make the decisions aren’t negatively impacted by failure. If a multi-year live service gamble loses money, they take a massive golden parachute and move to a different studio to try the same tactic. But if it succeeds, the profits are nearly limitless and these execs share in that. There’s no downside to anything but their reputation so they’ll gladly gamble hundreds of millions hoping to be one of the .5% that actually works

[@privatepile762]

Fuck the suits! Let gamers make the games again!

[@marcfilms999]

Its not just the higher ups. A lot of game devs seem to have hatred for gamers and use every excuse to hate them.

[@user-yz4dq4fk1b]

The OG rocksteady studio heads leaving their own studio was your first sign

[@keetonmillns7065]

They left after it was done tho

[@exmatilda982]

You can literally feel how frustrated Falcon is and he has a right to be. Like a lot of us here he had mad respect for Rocksteady because of the Arkham trilogy. Oh how bad you have fallen Rocksteady!

[@jessekoepp3928]

The people who made that studio great left quite a while ago. The shell that's left is Rocksteady in name only, just like with modern day Bioware.

[@ghostoflazlo]

One bad game and they have FAAAAAALLEEEN LIKE ROOOME calm down nerd

[@exmatilda982]

@@ghostoflazlo It's not just one bad game. It's one bad game after 9 years of anticipation for a new game from the studio that created the Arkham trilogy. It's their bad bussiness practices and shifting their focus to live service crap🙌🏻

[@kineticstar]

Oh yeah, Suicide Squad is a game. I forgot about it.

[@jobrakai9395]

Yeah just like how I forgot Skull and Bones is a game

[@hewhobattles8869]

Do yourself a favor and forget again

[@RAWBOT301]

They'll shut down the servers by the end of the year and everyone will forget except the greedy CEO's holding the bag.

[@michealgatling]

@@hewhobattles8869We would if everyone would stop beating a dead horse. I mean, seriously, there’s no point anymore, yet I swear everyone is still obsessed with it. Rocksteady said it failed. We’ve seen the numbers. Enough is enough. Live service is WB’s future.

[@that80ssongyoulove84]

And Gameranx is here to milk it for views.

[@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929]

The Joker was their cash cow, they thought for some reason gamers who wanna play a fun video game HAVE to have JOKER... Maybe but we HAVE to have a game worth playing 1st.

[@DaemonSharkSpiritOfFire]

It's cause the Suicide squad films created this dumb HarleyxJoker hype amongst youngsters. Old gamers like us are definitely not their targeted market, they are preying on the young minds with easy access to their parents' credit card (à la Fortnite)

[@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929]

@@DaemonSharkSpiritOfFire true. everything about the chapter screams Toy Store or christmas so yup.. Even Joker himself looks 14.

[@Re.T986]

A Damien Wayne or Superman game, that's all they had to do.😂

[@MetroXLR99]

"Batman Arkham Beyond." THAT was what many were hoping for after Knight.

[@regular564]

Suicide squad game was a good idea the game is just shit

[@HOTD108_]

​@@MetroXLR99It's been confirmed that the Batman Beyond game that was in development was never planned as an Arkham game. It would have been a new Batman universe, not a continuation from Knight.

[@TS-qr3rk]

The better question is: Why does Rocksteady HATE its own customers?

[@andrewshandle]

The fact that Helldivers 2 exists at the same time is also a huge problem for Rocksteady. A better Game as a Service game that is not only cheaper, it's constantly changing and getting new content.

[@SJC9726]

Helldivers really took that "simple but effective" approach and polished it till thoroughly, then released it for an extremely reasonable price. Most pleasant surprise to gaming in a while, for me

[@Blahhhhhh156]

Ehhhh tbh if you weren’t the original 10 thousand that play the first one over the last ten years you shouldn’t be talking about a game you found on tik tok haha

[@SJC9726]

@Blahhhhhh156 First time I've seen gaming elitism 😂 do you only want those 10k people to buy the second game? I get the tiktok hate but let people play and enjoy games, chill

[@Blahhhhhh156]

@@SJC9726 I do!?? Your the ones taking the fun out of it rushing the developers (a small team) for constant content updates as well as making the community very toxic. We were fine without you😎😎

[@SJC9726]

@Blahhhhhh156 I have no idea what you're on about 😂 I'm not rushing anybody. I, an adult, rarely have time to play and struggle to keep up with the updates. If they wanna take time to cook I'm happy with that, that goes for any game company. You'd rather the devs didn't make money and only sold 10k copies, I'm not the one with the problem here

[@christiancovington93]

I never thought I’d see the day where The Avengers gets more praise than something Rocksteady created… these are dark times…

[@crimped357]

AMEN to that!!! man, we ARE in the dark timeline.

[@basvangeest5485]

I mean, a lot of good games were released this year. Just not by rocksteady.

[@arulkws]

we truly live in the weirdest timeline

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

Avengers is a better game than suicide squad and gotham knights

[@reddboytv1332]

@@NadeemShekh-uy9znit really is to bad it died.

[@philchiara5928]

you know theyre near-sighted if they forgot to add any boomerang costumes in the season pass. thats really astonishing

[@Valk2003]

SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED! I was looking through the season pass and was like “hey this is pretty cool…. Wait where the hell is boomerangs costume?!”

[@PsychoRavager]

I keep saying this... content for the sake of content is one of the primary diseases plaguing various entertainment industries. Catering to the lowest bar of any demographic... the whales, the careless consumers, and the folks that are loud at social media about supporting something without ever really being interested in supporting said something. And that's not even talking about ideologies destroying stories and IPs left, right, and center.

[@CalvinChikelue]

The fact that there is legitimately only a single cutscene with a modicum of interaction with the Joker that has ZERO interaction between him & Harley genuinely feels like a deliberate put-on, as though WB/Rocksteady are explicitly stating they want to grant the bare minimum & daring us as consumers to call them on it. You’d genuinely have to go out of your way to make the Joker inclusion completely uncompelling & uninteresting

[@sunderwire]

Suicide squad is a joke

[@adknife2046]

100% agree with you

[@JoeMama-rd1gu]

The game yes.

[@gavinbarnes4701]

Hahaha

[@chscelebrity8325]

@@JoeMama-rd1guand movies

[@zagon8692]

Cry cry cry crybaby 👶 still crying??

[@randomorc9493]

This quote really hits hard here: ‘You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…’

[@arulkws]

i have a feeling that someone at the top echelon of WB saw the avengers game, take notes of what's wrong with it, but instead of fixing it they decided to make a worse version of it like seriously they probably thought "ahh so the thing that wrong with avengers game is that they give new characters immediately, thus player retention are low, let's make them grind to oblivion"

[@agogischesparerib5112]

Bad game releases bad DLC, was anyone expecting different?

[@kimdracula95]

And yet they still keep talking about it lol

[@Dystopian_Phantom_595]

​@@kimdracula95Because it's quite fasanating to look at how easliy a game like this fumbles the bag.

[@captainlongdik8724]

@@kimdracula95 as a point not as something to be proud of considering years of work and millions of bucks spent to the ground.

[@thehorsefromGOTs8]

@@kimdracula95 that's the job

[@pax1217]

No Mans Sky was the exception, except... it should be good from the start. Imagine telling EA that we will pay them $30 and the rest will be paid after one season? They won't like that, but they are OK doing the same thing in terms of game design and content

[@seraphicsorcerer]

The problem is the suits are making games, not creatives, not artist, no real risk taking developers, and they are forcing live service, when there's no needs, and if you look at BG3, it's not a problem with being single player, It just needs to be a good game... It deserves the criticism, and WB is "doubling" down, because MBA should not run companies.

[@franciscotelles-leon3641]

Yeah, this game is just trying to appeal to DC fans more than actual gamers, or gamers who just want to run around and fight shit and who don't really care about actual quality. The whole season pass micro transaction shit is so indicative of a profit first driven company, which is ironic since games are one of the best mediums to be creative. The best games I've played are the ones that take risks and do things other games haven't. They just don't care and probably don't have the talent. I imagine they just hire whoever can do the work and don't care for creative input or innovation. They just want to sell as much as they can, even if people end up thinking poorly of their games. When is the last time they came out with an actual banger?

[@M.W.H.]

There's a more suitable name for Suits, it's "Sons Of B1tches".

[@lorddiethorn]

I would argue it’s hiring people who can’t write, can’t make an fun gameplay loop and can’t make an game look good. I don’t even care about cutscenes looking great compared to the world looking good. I mean they failed big time at making each character feel different. I mean they all used guns and all of the boss fights are pretty much the same

[@davidlewis5312]

i still question that... the story of this game, and tone of this game is the work of the so-called Creatives. And that really needs to take a piss itself. I am pretty sure the next studio will be handed a memo that says 'under no circumstances should the plot involve shooting Batman in the face by the player characters'

[@Sgt.Wolfhart]

They're under contract to put all this stuff out. They're not working on anything right now and are not creating anything new for this game. Everything they put out has already been done. They can't just drop this game even tho they want to because of that contract. They have to release all dlc they already have done before they can drop the game. Even if 2 people are playing for the next 3 ish years they have to drop the DLC.

[@Kamusari92]

Nice infomation nice to know

[@donvolio4089]

Still can’t believe they’re trying to call this a sequel to Arkham games 😂😂

[@slimeking4777]

Pretty sure the only reason they said it was an arkham game was because they were scared the game wouldn't do well if it wasn't an arkham game even though it would of done better if they never said it was in the arkhamverse

[@shadowraptors1132]

That's not The Joker, that's The Joke Teller.

[@Damonicus1]

The Jester from Earth 3.....but the Temu version

[@LordAngelus]

The Chuckling Individual!

[@EISEN70]

It's not the Joker. It's The Joke

[@Denniz69]

Because the game is not good at all? And not offline playable🥳 Best combination!

[@plugsloth4203]

So helldivers 😂😂

[@adknife2046]

​@@plugsloth4203but helldivers is a good game

[@ryanthomas2432]

​@@plugsloth4203😂🤦‍♂️

[@Denniz69]

@@plugsloth4203 But Helldivers seema better (idk i heard it from friends) 🙂 I wish it would be playable offline because its looking worth 20€ for testing and a bit of fun😂

[@plugsloth4203]

@@Denniz69 helldiver's is better lolol I'm just being a dummy cause I know a lot of people who hates this game love helldivers when there almost the same game it is slightly better tho 😂😂

[@Akaelek]

I played through the game solo and really enjoyed the gameplay and traversal. It was truly a lot of fun. But I was playing solo, and didn't have the connectivity issues others had. And despite enjoying it, I grew tired of the post-game content pretty quickly. The thing I truly couldn't get over was when I got into the season pass and realized that I couldn't play Joker right away. And all of my mastery levels reset. That reset was just brutal. It was not worth it at all. I've not unlocked Joker yet, and honestly, will likely never turn the game on again. Which is sad, because I really did enjoy myself at first.

[@zaxko86]

The presents and wrapping paper reminds me of DC Universe when you had to destroy I believe it was Jokers presents for items once a day. I'm still going to wait for that $10 price like Cyberpunk had after release.

[@HighFive212]

I still cant get over how busy the screen is at all times. WB did not plan on Helldivers 2 being 100x cooler.

[@JayRacer]

That’s a great point. I had no desire to play SS regardless but HD2 definitely fills that wide open co-op void. Many 13:52 others probably feel the same way.

[@S1lverArr0w]

Very big turnoff. The HUD is way too cluttered.

[@thestonergamer420]

​@@S1lverArr0wyou can disable all of it,

[@FriedProfile]

​​@@thestonergamer420what if you still want to view how much health/ammo you have? Or when your special ability is ready or what your objective is. Having the option to hide these mechanics is not good game design. Incorporating these hud elements to be non intrusive in gameplay is the bare minimum and should be expected.

[@makaizaku]

It's way too busy and over-produced. In every moment there is something in your face. Sensory overload. At an attempt to be flashy and keep the ADHD fueled, it's distractingly too much.

[@seriousman006]

Falcon saying that he mightve been doing something wrong is actually a valuable criticism in of itself, because not everyone is a seasoned veteran gamer. he plays video games by the truckload for these videos and i assume just for the hell of it cuz you know, its a hobby. The fact that it took him that long to grind out a character rank despite having finished the standard content's main story speaks volumes of how much casual players will suffer to get to said rank. i refuse to believe the sheer annoyance of farming Joker wasnt designed to make people go and flat out buying him with Luthorbucks

[@lespaulnasty31]

You can really see flashes of a great game at moments during the main game. I love the groups dynamic until everything becomes incredibly repetitive to service the model

[@flamingburritto]

While WB is certainly to blame, at the same time the writers and designers are too (And sourbabyinc) . The problem with suicide squad wasn't that it was a live service. It's that it was a bad live service with a bad story, bad mission design, and bad writing.

[@dustinrhodes4793]

Cause the game is trash, pissed all over our heroes (literally) and that Joker looks more like a K-Pop singer then the Joker

[@mordisgaminggedons5119]

Seriously, the K-pop singer from Dead by daylight looks and feels more like Joker than this guy.

[@joseroa5243]

DEI couldn't have him being a twink, he also had to be missing a leg and be horny 24/7.

[@mordisgaminggedons5119]

@@DarkForce2024 that would be insane. Just imagine a whole multiverse of too expensive Skins of Cheap Joker Knockoffs Thats basically Money printing for them!

[@Astral_tha_God]

As someone with a kpop pfp, the Joker is a joke 😂 They were trying to do Trickster from DBD who literally looks a lot like a specific kpop star but Rocksteady gave us circus crackhead instead

[@rexus619]

That ain't the Joker, that's the Giggler.

[@Duffyfactory]

How did rocksteady go from Arkham knight to this? Like what kind of leap backwards is that?

[@ROBINHOOD370]

i guess this happens if you fuck the original devs over and then you donit as wb again with the remaining devs. i might remember it wrong, but a bunch of the original team left after arkham city. they didn't even bother to bring mark hamills joker back, instead the gave us this jared leto shit.

[@kennethbryant5819]

I doubt they have even a third of the original Rocksteady dev team. They're probably Rocksteady in name only now.

[@tlm10516]

The let their original team go and hired a bunch of gaming tourists that have only ever played candy crush. I mean these companies are hiring a half dozen consulting firms that all hate gaming and gamers instead of investing in game developing, graphics, gameplay, playtesting, etc.

[@lorddiethorn]

@@kennethbryant5819I was watching the open bar an few weeks Avon and the one guy that was on and he check nearly nobody that work on this game worked on the olds one

[@KenEvangelista]

Warner Brothers. That's what happened. We all know what big greedy companies does to talented dev studios. Unfortunate that the industry cannot run without money and greedy people has that.

[@stefanloncar6868]

Thank God Insomniac didn’t turn their Spiderman into another souless live service

[@Yayofangamer16]

They will try

[@JMQA1]

Companies think about the business model, the monetization, the "cash grab", the update cycle. When will they think about the game? Make people EXCITED to play the game, then ask your loyal base to pay extra for something actually extra. Skins are STUPID LOL I don't understand why "customization" is considered a luxury in gaming. Let people do what they want, like all of it, 100% of your content should be available when someone buys a game. Then introduce something exclusive. Nothing makes people want to rush a story and turn it off quicker than seeing content they need to pay more to use.

[@chrisdaughters]

The irony of naming a premium in-game currency “Luthor Coins” after the universe evil billionaire is insane.

[@ARIXANDRE]

WB has two of the best systems created, Nemesis and Free Flow Combat, and they dont use it.

[@preciousfarris7097]

Free flow combat?

[@hassathunter2464]

@@preciousfarris7097 Batman's combat system

[@preciousfarris7097]

@@hassathunter2464 thank you for answering!

[@Ganglionic-Vomit]

I need more of that Nemesis system so fucking bad.

[@preciousfarris7097]

@Ganglionic-Vomit I never got up experience that but I bet I would roleplay my characters in game better if this was in them

[@Thatdeal79]

It’s been a while since someone has come at me hard with personal insults on the internet but recently somebody did because I criticized this game. This game has some loyal supporters it just baffles me that this is the game anybody would be offended when they hear criticism.

[@TheHOOfan1]

The internet, especially Reddit, has become full of obsequious corporate defenders recently. I guess they feel it's their job to push back on any criticism that these multi-million dollar corporations are receiving. I heard a podcast recently where someone claimed that the games media is the reason this game is not doing well.

[@Thatdeal79]

@@TheHOOfan1 I agree. I like the game Days Gone but when it was released it was a buggy mess & still had lots of bugs 2 years after it came out when I played it. Along with that the promotions for it showed the player with an end game build which takes 30-50 hours to get so obviously some people abandoned the game early. Because the game didn’t sell well at launch it’s not getting a sequel. It’s become popular for people to blame gaming media but they just pretend the issues the game had along with its misleading promotion never happened it’s 100% IGN & Gamespots fault.

[@TheHOOfan1]

@@Thatdeal79 That was Sony's fault for sending a buggy product out to reviewers. I didn't play it until 2022, and I loved it. I've heard the day 1 patches for it though fixed a ton of the bugs that made it unplayable to the review press. Suicide Squads problem though, is they are forcing live service elements and a lame story into a universe no one wants them in.

[@Thatdeal79]

@@TheHOOfan1 Definitely 2 different games I was just giving an example of your point. Game companies release games that got issues & people try to blame bad reviews for it not doing well.

[@KornOnDaKob69]

I'm glad I didn't blow money on this. I knew it wasn't doing good the moment I saw it on sale a month after release. And it's on sale again. I think it's down to $35 which is horrible this soon after release.

[@TheShawnMower]

"Cemented their legacy" Guess it was just sand

[@trankia1224]

Biblo is my favorite lorb of the bling character!

[@brewchowski6445]

This one had me searching the comments to see if anyone else caught it 😂

[@futuretrunks_]

Don’t worry we’re waiting on rocksteady to say it’s a fan made game from the Arkham verse

[@dankdaze42069]

With the made up minority fake victim pandering it's doing it has to be😂...

[@kclink1579]

To be fair a fan game would be better.

[@lochlannach7]

These kind of people where arrogant enough to release this sorry excuse for a game, they will double down like Disney with the sequels till the end of their days.

[@maroon7894]

@@lochlannach7 i doubt WB would double down on a game that isn't profitable lol

[@georgejones5019]

No, the playbook is to blame the fans and customers for not knowing they wanted this when they specifically said they didn't want this.

[@Maochan81]

I feel truly sorry for you guys. You have to play crap like this to talk about it. Thanks for your hard work!

[@gregmather3343]

I couldn't agree more and this game is exactly why I could never review video games for a living.

[@bend4455]

The problem with many live service games is these major companies make the live service model and then build a game around it. What’s successful is making a good game first and then incorporating those live service things.

[@nils5898]

I would love to see Riddler, Two Face, The Penguin, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Catwoman, Bane, Mr. Freeze, Mad Hatter, Mr. Zsasz, Scarecrow, Clayface, Ra's al Ghul, Deathstroke, Red Hood, General Zod, Bizarro, Cyborg Superman, Doomsday, Darkseid, Lobo, Metallo, Parasite, Livewire, Ultra Humanite, Volcana, Ultraman, Superwoman, Bloodsport, Mongal, Toyman, Sinestro, Atrocitus, Star Sapphire, Indigo 1, Captain Boomerang, Captain Cold, Heatwave, Reverse Flash, Weather Wizard, Mirror Master, Golden Glider, Black Flash, Gorilla Grodd, Giganta, Ares, Cheetah, Circe, Grid, Black Manta, Ocean Master, Black Adam, Enchantress, Rick Flag in this game

[@machinegunsam1977]

I love when Falcon is pissed off about the same things I'm pissed off about.

[@Amine58571]

It would be more cool if they just added General Zod instead of a Cartoon Clown with an umbrella hover board

[@marcosdheleno]

zod is basically superman, why would he use normal guns? the point of the suicide squad is that they are low tier villains, and skilled humans, you cant just pull a zod. even someone like bane would probably be too much above the "power level" of the team.

[@Amine58571]

Yeah but I think it would be cool and they actually captured Zod and made him as one of the Suicide Squad in the comics

[@healsallwounds]

@@marcosdhelenoOh yeah, that’d be hilarious: a villain with Superman’s powers blasting away with a mini-gun. 😅

[@gunkzombie]

The cut scenes give some real Agents of Mayhem vibes.

[@alexspogonz]

This was one of the best vids yall have done

[@Copeharder00]

First off, that’s not the Joker, that’s a random clown.

[@sleepwalking4301]

“so what are we? some kind of terrible live service garbage?” -deadshot, probably

[@connormonkhouse4948]

Seeing this cutscene & update compared to this week's destiny cutscene & update (from a FREE update) is hilarious!! Shows how little these guys care about this game.... love how gameranx are just as frustrated about it too, love these guys

[@WrackPharmd]

I felt this rant in my soul. Please stop making always online, live service garbage. How many times do we have to learn this same lesson?

[@Rumske]

Please @gameranx keep this same energy on this kind of games ! You have a voice that can make a difference. Thank you

[@ericdraven8784]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrTophatreaper]

That ending killed me xD

[@TheFreshSoundsFlorida]

Facts. We need more of this energy.

[@edwardbrennan3963]

Conspiracy theory, I think Joker wasn't supposed to come out until Christmas 2024 and other characters like deathstroke was supposed to come out now but they thought moving him up to the first dlc would boost sales which is why it feels so rushed and unthoughtful and all the present stuff.

[@chriswilliams8159]

Most of the criticism I think comes from its association with the Arkhamverse. It might be a mediocre affair on its own, but when it's set in the same universe as the previous instalments, it immediately becomes a pathetic entry, not to mention a blatant cash grab.

[@mhug86]

At the very least I enjoyed avengers to the point I maxed almost every character and went back for each dlc and new character, but once I maxed them out I couldn't do the grind anymore and never felt compelled to go back

[@TobiasKlose.]

Well it has basically No new Content. Same old Missions to Grind.

[@synthetiCore]

Truth. What was offered in Season 1 was almost entirely a reskin of pre-season Finite Crisis content.

[@zacharynyberg7007]

Ya and Diablo 4 season1 was super lackluster.

[@TobiasKlose.]

@@zacharynyberg7007 Did Diablo 4 ever fix the Rubber Banding on Console?

[@georgejones5019]

The Destiny Formula.

[@vivekkparashar6369]

​@@zacharynyberg7007 Basic campaign is pretty great but the seasons and end game are meh

[@archersterling6726]

I can't even watch that UI without having a headache

[@jaytico5835]

I have trouble understanding what im watching

[@00bidge]

I really like suicide squad, the story is okay, and I really like the combat and movement mechanics. And this season pissed me off so much. They seem to want the game to fail. They have the right idea about how you can access content (occasional free skin, battle pass doesn't end, can revisit previous episodes) but the content itself never varies, why would I want to revisit the previous episode when this new episode is exactly the same? Joker's alright as a playable character, but where are all the cutscenes they were bragging about pre-release? Where is the story for this season? Why do I give a damn about this new member of the squad? Can they still make a good/great game that most people will enjoy? I genuinely believe they can, and I know I'll be there to try every new episode, to see if they manage it. But I can't blame anyone for not giving them another chance after this abysmal start.

[@DaveGermainDisJointed]

I know I sound like a broken record but if a company wanted to do a live service game, maybe they should look at Chromehounds again. The matches were simple and all but the three nations at war aspect kept me glued to the game well into the early hours of the morning many times.

[@DaveGermainDisJointed]

Oh and on a side note, back in the mid 70's-80's when corporations bought out Hollywood, the quality of art in films in general took a nosedive. That's what happens when people who aren't filmmakers are in charge of making films. This is kind of where video games are right now.

[@eujuneca]

I don't think I've ever heard Falcon this upset 🤣🤣 I hope you're ok man, good games will come

[@solid4340]

The fact that out of all the DC lore, Brainiac wants the Joker. It's a very stupid idea, imagine playing as a red lantern or Black Manta or somebody.

[@Starless85]

Yeah good point. Out of all the super power baddies, he picks some scrawny non powered dude who’s only “power” is that he’s fucking crazy.

[@mordisgaminggedons5119]

"Yes, finally I have access to a slightly above average guy with a skin condition and serious Mental Problems! I will be unstoppable!"

[@starvinmarvin2130]

Bro thats sounds awesome

[@eleanorgreywolfe5142]

@@mordisgaminggedons5119 Smartest being in the galaxy by the way. You wouldn't know it because in this game Brainiac is a fucking dumbass. Somehow captures the Justice League, sends them out one at a time to face the Suicide Squad who defeat them all then tries to fight them using the powers of a Justice League member they've already fought and killed.

[@NearTheSun-wn6pn]

Joker is a popular character.. Dev thought this will boost their sell. You have to blame the marketing team for this atrocity. I totally miss the days.. when devs used to think Video game is a art. Now Big companies have turned Video games into consumable products like pizza and burger.

[@maxrosefoxanime7225]

If i remember correctly the devs didn't even wanted make the game, other issue is 70$ for a live service yea no

[@trevortrent8363]

I love when Falcon goes all Bird of Prey on these game publishers. This sort of garbage is how the industry crashed in the 80's. Nothing was learned by their legacy. 🤷‍♂️

[@StankHouse-wb4fz]

Actually, Strongholds were released in Episode 1 of Season 1, but no one knew what they were. Later we find out they were those terraform and bug-out missions we've already done before in Pre-Season. They were one-and-done missions to kick off the Episode. That pissed a lot of people off.

[@alfmustdie28]

Jesús Good games like New Vegas ( 13 yrs ) keep 2.500 players For years An this piece of shit can’t even have 300 It’s funny

[@ymedia9602]

I still play New Vegas, legendary game

[@alfmustdie28]

@@ymedia9602 - because Got spurs that jingle jangle jingle

[@dem0nchild610]

​@@ymedia9602hell ya different mods each play through it's a whole new game each time

[@garybond3316]

The grind to get to level 35 didnt take that long plus i maxed put some characters i hadnt used.

[@teamalice115]

The main problem a lot of life service games have lately is that the grind is not fun to do. I am a huge fan of Final Fantasy 14 and while yes you do run a lot of dungeons over and over again sometimes for grinding each dungeon has different bosses with different mechanics and there’s so much other content you can do that doesn’t have to just be repetitive annoying grind so that you can go do something else once you get bored of the grind for a bit and then come back and do it again later. Too many games think if we just make something grin people will just constantly keep playing it, but you have to make the grinding bits, fun or you have to give me something else to do when I’m tired of the grinding for a bit because if I’m not inherently having fun, I’m not gonna continue to play your game.

[@kylehudson9019]

I love the anger in falcons voice 😂 “grind again and again AND AGAIN” love the videos!

[@thefrothingotter8772]

“Make the Continental Drift look like speedy progress” - Falcon. LOL this was great!!

[@gimmethepinkelephant3685]

They turned the Joker into a Mo-Mo.... It's completely ridiculous

[@deanbaggio09]

Games take like 7 years to make. So you're starting a game project trying to guess the climate in 7 years time. That climate changes on a daily basis in the multiplayer space. The single player space is waaaaay more steady. And i think we're starting to see what a huge difference that makes to the success of games.

[@fiesesalien]

Remember, they killed an awesome diablo-like hack n slash with tons and tons of marvel characters to release avengers. Marvel Heroes. I even got to the point where I unlocked my favorite characters and thought of paying money for some costumes. Yes, it was tedious and grindy too but it was actually a lot of fun! I still want Marvel Heroes back with all their MTX since that was more fun than suicide squad and avengers combined! Stay crunchy.

[@toxicavenger7073]

It's like any game that sucks on launch any dlc that come along for it will also be hated

[@kingofcrimson4177]

Let’s break it down in maths how bad the grind is. 50 points per mission x 20 missions is the 1k required to unlock 1 battlepass level. 20 missions = 1k. If their’s 72 BP levels and each level requires 20 missions.. you need to do 1,440 repetitive missions to unlock every in the battlepass. 🤯

[@brodenterry9722]

I decided to finally give this a go for the platinum trophy, suspecting that WB will shut this down within six months and cut their losses. I’m not as negative on it as a lot of other people. I think there’s fun residing in the gameplay, but the content just isn’t there. You’re stuck doing the same 3-4 types of missions for hours on end. Season 1 was their chance to overhaul missions and add more variety, and instead they just went through the motions and half-assed it.

[@122sparDa]

Also, the fact that other game companies saw this game and also pulled the plug on the live service after seeing how bad it got with this game.

[@mistakendawg8885]

and now just two weeks later the game is sitting at a 24hr peak of about 200 players on steam. WB dropped the bag big time with this release yet they still doubled down on their live service approach for the future.

[@eddydelacruz6326]

When the devs are getting their shoulders breathed on by the publishers/stakeholders.... this is what you get

[@raulgutierrez1609]

Cant wait for this game to go on sale for 2.99$ right before they take it off the stores like what happened to Avengers

[@BlakeCDMedia]

I'm so glad that people aren't falling for this anymore! That grind is the kind of crap you pull when you have a good successful game.

[@karimdavis7065]

We should just let the fans make the games

[@mandalorianperseus4662]

A simple factual answer would be: Joker is dead, he's not supposed to be back and nobody wanted him back

[@mandalorianperseus4662]

But of course, no one listens to reason, no one has common sense, no one cares anymore. Nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care

[@KingBr33ch]

11:42 never in my 26 years have i heard of captain boomerang 🪃 😂

[@michaelwhite3599]

I finished the main game (not the expansion) with the highest level being a 22 with Deadshot. There is NOOO way I'm grinding that long without another story to go up another 20 levels

[@JScotty4Reel]

Putting the angst in Gameranx today 😛

[@griff_the_boxer]

Because people are starting to see through “games” that are released that are really just storefronts for MTX with some gameplay on the side. Thank god.

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

It's almost like taking a great dev of single player games (with at most small, side-style multiplayer modes) and forcing them to make live service games, thinking pumping millions of dollars into it will somehow work... Doesn't. I think Bungie is the closest to really pull it off, unless you count MMOs sorta. Blizzard always made multiplayer games really to some degree, as did many of the other big names in that kinda thing. Slowly over years making bigger and bigger budget/scale games, then scoring a big hit like Overwatch, WOW/StarCraft, Destiny, Fortnite... Honestly these types of from-the-start live service games outside MMOs should just stick to mobile or something.

[@alexmikedis9609]

when you cant attract 1000 ppl to play its a bad sign

[@raz8806]

Why? Do you guys really want to know why? Maybe because we wanted and asked for a Justice League game for years now, and you guys are giving us this? Are you serious WB? Just imagine guys! a whole Justice League game with Atlantis missions for aquaman, and missions in space for Superman, and for batman, it will be the arkham style missions... the potential is extremely boundless. I just don't understand WB anymore why not make a jl game which will get them millions of dollars?

[@Ryder_OMEGA]

The people in charge must not be hungry.

[@gunpowderhoes3492]

Cry

[@raz8806]

@gunpowderhoes3492 wdym? It's not that I think they need to give it now because we want it, but don't you think that a jl game was a better choice?

[@raz8806]

@gunpowderhoes3492 I'm sorry, but if you think that this game so called "suicide squad" is a better choice, you don't have common sense

[@vivekkparashar6369]

​@@gunpowderhoes3492 Valid criticism is not crying

[@SnowJester]

I love it when Falcon rips a game a new one, that's when the bootlickers comes out of the woodwork.

[@juanjosetalerogarcia902]

Wait till he realizes strongholds are already in the game and are just regular missions with joker themed environments lol

[@benjaminparrott2454]

For the reused justice league fights they'll probably do yellow lantern and reverse flash

[@watchmehope6560]

SweetBabyInc was just the brown icing on the doodoo cake!

[@DimTheLamps]

Exactly 💯

[@pa0358]

Let’s hope they don’t touch anymore games again

[@hassathunter2464]

Well, considering they did ALL the writing... 🤔

[@leons.kennedy4596]

In the same timeframe we got helldivers 2 a genuinely fun live service

[@RoboGlitchGames]

What I am seeing from Rocksteady is what Falcon said, they got pushed to do this game against their own ideas. So what's the best way to f over WB, it's to f the game. They are genuinely trying to get WB to back off this bs cause RS didn't want it, they don't want to continue it so they are failing it deliberately.

[@ichaseiyoutube]

As they should.

[@botchedoperations3485]

I think sometimes it is just fun to jump on the hate train. i don't like subscription services but it is actually a good way to try out games for a month. my take: if you can play a game with a gamepass. try it and others and if you truly like it. then at the end of the subscription just buy said game.

[@DarthArachnious]

Traditionally, Jack Napier becomes the Joker in his early 30s. So they had me curious about a 20-something Joker. Which we've never seen before, even in the comics. But you can't do anything with him in his five minutes of screen time.

[@lochlannach7]

They gave him a superficial James Charles personality, not even 10 hours of spotlight will make him any better.

[@juaneskator]

He also speaks like he already killed Batman lol

[@Kleed44]

Hi Falcon, I hope you're having a great Wednesday, and thank you for the great video as always!!

[@gameranxTV]

Hey