I absolutely do not recommend: Suicide Squad - Kill the Justice League (Review)

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@SkillUp 7 ай бұрын

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@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 7 ай бұрын

it has all the originality of killing comic book heroes en masse, quippy humor and multiverse shenanigans. as in none at all.

@MrMoralTurpitude 7 ай бұрын

This game is an insult to Kevin Conroy/Batman and the decades of work the man put into that role! This game just took a massive dump on the Batman Arkham games! Total disgrace! R.I.P Kevin Conroy

@hsizzle4502 7 ай бұрын

you are completly wrong no one has said its lazy or un ambitious. the game is a terrible story that what people are talking aboout . it feminist to the max it is one of the most racist games ive ever seen. its terrible and the things you said to start the video are you r opinon but they are competyly wrong. the story and even the gameplay and even how it looks is terrrible. go look at how harley looks in the arkham games then get back to me about presentation. dude she looks awful. and you think this is good presentation? dead shot is race swapped dude. this is one of the most racist and blatent disrepespectful games ive ever seen . you need to really read the room no one has said this was lazy or phoned in no one has said that you just litrerally made it up

@javierlandaverde4108 7 ай бұрын

You know this is a pointless bias review when the reviewer doesn't understand who the intended audience this game is marketed for nor does he read the details of what the game is. The games website site specifically detail it's a third person action shooter. No point of bringing that Rocksteady has been a notoriously a game studio that works on action combat story driven games. This game isn't a combat 3rd person game. It's a third person action shooter. Totally bi-polar opposite of what they are.

@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 7 ай бұрын

@@javierlandaverde4108the intended audience is a handful of hamsterwheel addicts that are already hooked on other games. go hide behind subjectivity somewhere else.

@nunyabiznes7446 7 ай бұрын

I just can't get over Captain Boomerang blasting goons with a shotgun. Like come on the man has exactly one character trait

@nhatnang8659 7 ай бұрын

Imagine they met him throw boomerang based on gun type like assassin creed origin

@Craul08 7 ай бұрын

Should have called him Captain Australia.

@wahahabuh 7 ай бұрын

He should've been throwing rhe actual shotgun like it's a boomerang

@ewjiml 7 ай бұрын

All the good live service games like Deep Rock or Warhammer4k: Darktide have 4 unique classes that are not interchangeable on the ability or weapon level. Each class is genuinely unique. Darktide has the Ogryn class, who is tall and tanky but slow. The Psyker class plays nothing like him, which is a ranger magic class. The devs at Rocksteady seriously lack creativity.

@CalamityRedhood 7 ай бұрын

@@wahahabuh or he could shoot tiny little boomerang bullets? 🤔

@joseaca1010 7 ай бұрын

see you in 6 months when WB reports that: "due to changing market conditions we have been forced to take the regretful decision of downsizing Rocksteady and will have to layoff 50% of the studio"

@thierryfaquet7405 7 ай бұрын

6 months ? More like 3 weeks

@angelopanzera3946 7 ай бұрын

pleasebewrongpleasebewrongpleasebewrongpleasebewrongpleasebewrongpleasebewrong...

@Herowebcomics 7 ай бұрын

Sad but true!😢

@yusefdelvillar6566 7 ай бұрын

You forgot them cancelling support for the game and delisting it.

@boitmecklyn4995 7 ай бұрын

WB should be downsizing, not rocksteady. I put the blame squarely on WB for pushing it and expecting it to work.

@LylasFightclub 7 ай бұрын

The fact the preorder ultimate edition skins are only starter versions of skins you have to pay more money for is genuinely disgusting

@candycabngfl 7 ай бұрын

The whole thing is gross. Clearly loot boxes were definitely going to be a thing until the outrage of that hit. The whole game just screams monetization regardless of how much they may have pulled back.

@AC-hj9tv 7 ай бұрын

Defund rocksteady

@marcusclark1339 7 ай бұрын

yup its egregious, predatory, unethical and amoral yet they want to tout their "diversity and inclusion" by performative pride icons and logos in the game world, really shows the emotional manipulation tactics on display say it bluntly: THE GAME IS BAD and we knew that DAY 1 from the first TRAILER why its bad: ESG, Sweet Baby Inc, Rocksteady not being the same company as before, agenda, and live service a thread: ESG ----- all about performative ideological belief of being moral in censorship, moral puritanism, ethnocentrism and a core belief that their way is better than any other, as a result they look to the old (outfits, designs, sex appeal, characterization, lore) and change them to fit their narrow view of what is good look into the game's bio and you feel how much it hates characters, its shilling for Wonder Woman as a character, bastardization of ideals like cop = bad to them, and butchering lore with retcons to fit their narrative on "inclusion" Sweet Baby Inc ----- most AAA games ascribe to them cause consultant firm gives them money so even if game does bad they make money, in their minds that's justification to burn every bridge to appease to it they're in charge of script writing of narrative, audio logs, banter, and more and it shows they hate every male lead, especially if white and hero, they view lantern as a villain cause he's a black space cop so the black criminal has to be the one to kill them - cause black on black crime so inclusive WW has 6+ paragraphs of lex simping for her in her bio and phrases like she saved us from toxic masculinity which should be the most obvious sign of agenda pushing in this product constant undervaluing of the heroes and legacies while painting the villains as better and more moral tells u of how big companies like these view morals, all inverse Rocksteady ------ Many including the founders, have left this company and it shows in the quality degradation the design is so telling as well in characters and design the amount of broad androgynous designs on women, unappealing and lacking in any sex appeal is shocking when looking back at arkham games to this and how far they've fallen its telling how neutered that is and deliberate and is exactly why they chose an established lore than a new universe to butcher it on purpose cause Trojan Horse tactics to push an agenda Propaganda ----- shits on the legacies has Harley hate her own outfits of old Wonder Woman only one given a pass Batman killed in a random gutter and desecrated by Harley after Pissed on Flash, Left Green Lantern in his underwear LGBT logo in the hall of Justice and Pride flag icons everywhere in a city on fire Game Character Bios if someone looks at that and thinks it doesn't affect the quality of the game then they're willfully ignorant and refuse to acknowledge how much this ruins products

@RevelationOne 7 ай бұрын

If they could charge to reload your weapon, they would. We are dealing with some of the greediest people in history and I understand the need for companies to make money but when it becomes all about the money then the gamers suffer.

@InternetMouse 7 ай бұрын

Wait WHAT? you only get the starter skins? You don't get a voucher to own all the skins?? Haibo brother. That's messed up 😢

@Hey-person 7 ай бұрын

Suicide Squad is the type of game you see on sale for 9.99$ after a bunch of updates and still have to think about buying.

@kellycsc17 7 ай бұрын

At this point just wait for it to go free on ps plus or Xbox live

@crackwh0re911 7 ай бұрын

Not really tho.. Since there are actual good games out there on the market... I won't be spending 9.99$ for a bad game with a cash shop and battlepass.. I would not play it if it was free.

@GigglingStoners 7 ай бұрын

Nothing to think about, wouldnt play it for free

@dighad3824 7 ай бұрын

wont be playing this even if they pay me to

@MinusFiveStars_ 7 ай бұрын

Its could be free and I wouldnt play it.

@caderlocke8869 7 ай бұрын

It's okay guys. We can wait another 8 years for Rocksteady to try again.

@Arkaner3 7 ай бұрын

I'm out 😆

@TheDriver86 7 ай бұрын

I’ll be surprised if they’ll still be around in 8 months…

@JagsP95 7 ай бұрын

No thanks its not the same and if sweet baby inc is involved during the development process again, itll just be another waste of time.

@bp4861 7 ай бұрын

How do you think this works? They just get another chance? Clowns these days rip into a studio so hard they close down then act like they have no idea why anyone would close said studio down and cry and wish it was still around

@lordsemen489 7 ай бұрын

The people who made the Arkham trilogy all left the company So I wouldn’t mind if Rocksteady burns to the ground

@Verspielt_YT 7 ай бұрын

Maybe it's because I'm getting old but watching that gameplay footage was just exhausting. How can people look at this visual mess and not feel disoriented after a minute or so? 😵‍💫

@RobertStoll 7 ай бұрын

That's been gaming for me for at least a year now lol

@MrSoopSA 7 ай бұрын

It’s both getting older and the industry aiming to appease those who grew up with smart devices and apps/games that have constant visual clutter.

@sage11x 7 ай бұрын

It’s all about that dopamine hit brother. Gotta see dem big numbers and gotta get all that colorful loot. Everyone wants to be Fortnite.

@ReachTea 7 ай бұрын

The art style has the cohesion of a Live Service game 2 years into it's "cycle" it looks like Fortnite..

@atiredcliche 7 ай бұрын

I just turned off the numbers and it's fine

@js1879 7 ай бұрын

Ready Player One comes to mind where in the movie, the guys says. "We can take up 80% of the visual field before inducing seizures"...or something like that. That UI is horrendous

@CityofButterfly 7 ай бұрын

It takes a special kind of awful to make Ready Player One a positive example of anything. Edit: by positive, I meant effective.

@bobthebuilder9509 7 ай бұрын

@@CityofButterflyHey, the books were far better than the movie…

@charlesajones77 7 ай бұрын

I said exactly this a couple weeks ago.

@Some1Any1No1 7 ай бұрын

So many things are popping up on the gameplay screen I half expect to see a “Congrats, you won a free iPad!” ad

@Icanonlycountto4 7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@FeganFloop 7 ай бұрын

You can choose to turn ecah thing off in the settings

@dagda1180 7 ай бұрын

@@FeganFloopThat just tells me the UI designers knew at the end of the day that's it's a mess, and had little time to change it. It's a lil' nice though, gotta admit.

@FeganFloop 7 ай бұрын

@dagda1180 I mean unless they got positive and negative reception during play testing and decided to add the option to change it if you want

@yw9372 6 ай бұрын

@alargecorgi2199that’s not what he said? He praised the city design, but pointed out that you get no opportunity to actually explore that because everything you do is on rooftops.

@Forcer69 7 ай бұрын

I really wish that every game has to be a live service era would just end. It really sucks seeing more and more single player developers make projects that are designed around the opposite of what they’re used to making.

@NoName...... 7 ай бұрын

It has. Sony majorly backtracked on their live service plans. More and more non live service games are blowing up.

@juniormphahlele9053 7 ай бұрын

@@NoName...... Sony realising that going full live service is not going to work.

@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 7 ай бұрын

pretty sure it already ended, the live service games that survived are already settled. this game just got delayed too much.

@Astral_Armadillo 7 ай бұрын

Fr, it's such a gamble, sure you have a mega slim chance of getting a lightning in a bottle moment like fortnite or call of duty but a way higher chance of fizzling out and getting taken offline

@jonasking9587 7 ай бұрын

I think that's a Metal Arms avatar? One of my favorite games.

@DOOMStudios 7 ай бұрын

This game is not gonna last 13 Seasons what is Rocksteady really thinking…

@juniormphahlele9053 7 ай бұрын

It's funny enough they assume our interests is going to be maintained for that long

@derpherp7432 7 ай бұрын

Warner Bros put a bullet through Rocksteady's head forcing them to make this live service game.

@DOOMStudios 7 ай бұрын

@@juniormphahlele9053man this is gonna backfire so hard.

@EnsignRedshirtRicky 7 ай бұрын

They were thinking, nah, that takes too much energy.

@aaronhumphrey3514 7 ай бұрын

Right? The game only has 10k players on Steam at this very moment. This game is quite literally dead on arrival.

@rudeboyjohn3483 7 ай бұрын

Forcing SUPERvillains to rely on guns...against bulletproof characters seems so bizarre

@Vonboon11dy 7 ай бұрын

Would it help if they actually use anti metahuman tech to take down each Hero?

@fullmetalvash 7 ай бұрын

@@Vonboon11dyOther people have suggested using other villians to take down the league like: Bizzaro for Superman, Reverse Flash for the Flash, Sinestro for Green lantern or have Wonder Woman Play play some kind of part in each boss fight. Then Suicide Squad is there support type stuff during the fight.

@superQman600 7 ай бұрын

@@fullmetalvash then this wouldn’t be a suicide squad game 😂

@fullmetalvash 7 ай бұрын

@@superQman600 if you write it right, it absolutely would still be a Suicide Squad game.

@Zarok_ 7 ай бұрын

Im 23 years old and feel like I'm too old to deal with all of the effects, numbers, pop-ups etc. in gameplay

@길천사 7 ай бұрын

그럴때 justice League of legends를 해봐

@Woodstarritt 7 ай бұрын

I’m 31 years old, and I feel the same mate. I’ve been through this same exact bullshit loop for far too long.

@doubleaabattery7562 7 ай бұрын

I'm 15 and I feel the same lmao

@ShadwRavn 7 ай бұрын

There are moments where 70% of the screen is filled with effects. I doubt anyone can enjoy not seeing the game they play

@KnownforSwiftness 7 ай бұрын

I'm 3 and I feel the same lmao

@MontyMX45 7 ай бұрын

It baffles me how WB has access to the Nemesis system and Rocksteady and they cannot make a good game.

@GigglingStoners 7 ай бұрын

Cause old devs are gone, these are just diversity hire hacks

@danyaRyt 7 ай бұрын

Well, it’s been rumours about Wonder Woman game with Nemesis system. But after Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad I doubt a good game will be released

@VGFightSchool 7 ай бұрын

What are you baffled about? They are supposedly using it to make Wonder Woman.

@TheUltimateHacker007 7 ай бұрын

@@VGFightSchool It being announced at the time this game released means it'll be the same team. "From the makers who made Suicide squad"

@Kaunte 7 ай бұрын

@@TheUltimateHacker007no, the wonder woman game is from the studio that made Shadow of Mordor, not Rocksteady

@mathmusicstructure 7 ай бұрын

It feels like they made Deadshot's kit first, and then went "Bah it's too hard to make 3 more unique ones based around their actual powers. Let's make them all use guns"

@EchoDoctrine 7 ай бұрын

Its because its Loot, won't make sense finding green, blue, legendary "shark fins" or Boomerangs so they just gave em all loot guns to find. dumb.

@Therealstarbel 7 ай бұрын

🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ if you watch anything that has to do with suicide squad you’ll see they use guns , even the live action movies they all have guns it’s this something you guys blindly do not see 😂😂😂😂 it’s mind boggling how you guys think that suicide squad don’t have guns

@TBContent24 7 ай бұрын

@@EchoDoctrine Lots of people don't realize this. It's like in borderlands, you have your different characters who have different skills and archetypes but they all use guns overall because that's the shared loot system

@marcusclark1339 7 ай бұрын

bluntly: THE GAME IS BAD and we knew that DAY 1 from the first TRAILER why its bad: ESG, Sweet Baby Inc, Rocksteady not being the same company as before, agenda, and live service a thread: ESG ----- all about performative ideological belief of being moral in censorship, moral puritanism, ethnocentrism and a core belief that their way is better than any other, as a result they look to the old (outfits, designs, sex appeal, characterization, lore) and change them to fit their narrow view of what is good look into the game's bio and you feel how much it hates characters, its shilling for Wonder Woman as a character, bastardization of ideals like cop = bad to them, and butchering lore with retcons to fit their narrative on "inclusion" Sweet Baby Inc ----- most AAA games ascribe to them cause consultant firm gives them money so even if game does bad they make money, in their minds that's justification to burn every bridge to appease to it they're in charge of script writing of narrative, audio logs, banter, and more and it shows they hate every male lead, especially if white and hero, they view lantern as a villain cause he's a black space cop so the black criminal has to be the one to kill them - cause black on black crime so inclusive WW has 6+ paragraphs of lex simping for her in her bio and phrases like she saved us from toxic masculinity which should be the most obvious sign of agenda pushing in this product constant undervaluing of the heroes and legacies while painting the villains as better and more moral tells u of how big companies like these view morals, all inverse Rocksteady ------ Many including the founders, have left this company and it shows in the quality degradation the design is so telling as well in characters and design the amount of broad androgynous designs on women, unappealing and lacking in any sex appeal is shocking when looking back at arkham games to this and how far they've fallen its telling how neutered that is and deliberate and is exactly why they chose an established lore than a new universe to butcher it on purpose cause Trojan Horse tactics to push an agenda Propaganda ----- shits on the legacies has Harley hate her own outfits of old Wonder Woman only one given a pass Batman killed in a random gutter and desecrated by Harley after Pissed on Flash, Left Green Lantern in his underwear LGBT logo in the hall of Justice and Pride flag icons everywhere in a city on fire Game Character Bios if someone looks at that and thinks it doesn't affect the quality of the game then they're willfully ignorant and refuse to acknowledge how much this ruins products

@Fractured676 7 ай бұрын

@@EchoDoctrine City of Heroes did it just fine.

@ACameronUK 7 ай бұрын

In the UK the full version of this game costs £100 😳 and yet there is a shop in game for buying cosmetics…the greed of these people really knows no bounds anymore.

@BackToThe90s-kam 7 ай бұрын

Blame stupid players who buy this shit and defend devs for this

@quoththekraven5911 7 ай бұрын

People keep buying it though

@ACameronUK 7 ай бұрын

@@quoththekraven5911 yes 🤷‍♂️ it’s currently no.3 in the digital chart, not sure about physical sales…I don’t think it’s sold in the kind of numbers they were hoping for, but it’s certainly not a flop. The thing I find more disturbing is the number of people online who have convinced themselves that this is a good product which offers value for money. I know value is subjective but if people keep accepting this poor level of quality in games (not to mention the totally unnecessary micro transactions) then things are only going to get worse.

@Sapphire_Jack 7 ай бұрын

Not really, only has 12k players on steam, those are abysmal numbers for a tripple A story game @@quoththekraven5911

@lewish_ 7 ай бұрын

the full game does not cost £100

@reesespieces8173 7 ай бұрын

"Kill your darlings" doesn't mean to kill beloved characters. I used to assume that to. Kill your darlings is a term in writing that refers to the concept that a writer must be willing to delete scenes or entire portions of a script or novel that don't serve the story. Greatly written scenes even should be cut out if they don't improve the narrative. That's what it means. Doesn't really apply here

@TheBlueGoldenHawk 7 ай бұрын

*Goodly written

@Kinglink 7 ай бұрын

Well. I mean they should have killed their "darlings" in they should have deleted the entire script and started from scratch, so in that way it does apply. :)

@conspiracypanda1200 7 ай бұрын

@@TheBlueGoldenHawkThe scenes in question can be of any quality. The point is if these scenes don't serve a purpose then don't get attached to them. Keep the story rolling by not wasting the audience's time on whatever garbage or fluff you feel drawn to focus on when your efforts could instead be spent improving your product as a whole; ie. _kill your darlings._ In the case of this SS:KtJL... The company's attention was clearly sucked into the cosmetics, season planning and other marketability tactics rather than cleaning up the UI, making the battles more involved/missions more interesting or, well, anything else their audience might actually _want_ out of a game like this...

@JohnGuyJohn 7 ай бұрын

The game was the darling all along

@OriontheLad 7 ай бұрын

It can also mean to not have a fear of killing off a character if it serves the story too. Coming up with contrived ways to keep someone alive because you as a creator like them is only a detriment to your storytelling. But that too doesn’t really fit the use of the phrase here. Just because the Justice League is a beloved group does not mean that they can’t or shouldn’t be killed. Your goal should be to tell a story. If the end goal of that story is to “kill the justice league” your plot needs to service that goal and be impactful.

@nikidelvalle 7 ай бұрын

I want to know who in the hell directed a studio renowned for their visceral, crunchy, satisfying melee combat to make a looter shooter. That person has got to be on drugs.

@MetalJT24 7 ай бұрын

Sounds just like Bioware when they released Anthem.

@EckoUntitl 7 ай бұрын

They just saw Prototype and Fortnite and said "let's combine them".

@Tallborn5 7 ай бұрын

You can say the same thing about CDPR with Cyberpunk or Blizzard with Overwatch. Devs sometimes want to make new type of games.

@tartatovsky 7 ай бұрын

@@Tallborn5except, Cyberpunk is not live service bs

@inshal6420 7 ай бұрын

@@tartatovskylive service part was probably the publisher. I will say it sort of became obvious that the devs wanted to try something different they added a M61 vulcan gun to their stealth/action game.

@anaguma90 7 ай бұрын

The UI clutter on the screen looks like those "if elden ring was made by ubisoft" parody Photoshops people were making

@PlusOneMacie 7 ай бұрын

Seriously! I don't care about all the crybabies who are wetty-upsetty that Batman gets killed and stuff, I'm just shocked no one is talking more about all the VISUAL GARBAGE on the screen at seemingly all times. Really looks like it'd be a dealbreaker for me if there's no way to minimize it. It makes Borderlands look subtle and grounded by comparison.

@lotus2001 7 ай бұрын

@@PlusOneMacieyou can literally customize the size and placement of all hud elements so not sure what your complaint is about

@markymark637 7 ай бұрын

@@lotus2001 dude such a minute detail that no one would know without touching the game, acting as if that's common knowledge lol

@mcbill7352 7 ай бұрын

fr. The only thing you need is that bottom left part and the minimap is fine I guess

@spartanB0292 7 ай бұрын

@@lotus2001 That doesn't make the complaint any less valid. Rocksteady designed this to be the default. That means actual hours and effort went into it, and if you buy this game, you are paying for this UI. Even if you didn't buy the game, you can still complain about it. Just because something is optional, that doesn't excuse it from criticism.

@LilBoyHexley 7 ай бұрын

My take on another comment is that the script feels like it was written for the Squad to be facing an "Injustice" style assortment of truly evil heroes. Not a group of previously good, mind controlled heroes. It seems like Rocksteady wanted to have their cake and eat it too. With the edginess of killing the good JL heroes we know and love, while having them be plainly evil enough to root for the Squad against them, minimizing any chance the player might feel bad for having to kill them.

@Anxious_Bridge 7 ай бұрын

I think you're spot-on with this. To me, it also feels like the game has an identity crisis when it comes to the tone.

@wile123456 7 ай бұрын

All the bad comic book writing tropes in one package. Such garbage. Hope the animators and 3d modellers find a better studio to work for, because their talented is wasted on incompetent CEO's and writers. I 2 months we will already see headlines "wb games fires 50% of rocksteady staff." get out while you can for greener pastures.

@MrEDK1985 7 ай бұрын

Having this take place in the Injustice universe would’ve been actually interesting, and a much better choice.

@Andrew-fq7pu 7 ай бұрын

Would've worked much better if Braniac had developed a dimensional key and swapped the JLA with the Crime Syndicate. Those guys are evil.

@misterbadguy7325 7 ай бұрын

Personally, my speculation is that if you look at when this game was greenlit, it was at a very specific time: a time when WB was hyping up the Suicide Squad and the Justice League as rival teams, when the DCEU, though clearly troubled, was still making motions towards a grand plan, and when Destiny was at the height of its prowess. Nowadays, there isn't a Suicide Squad or Justice League comic on the stands, the DCEU is completely dead and buried (and they'll be very lucky if superhero films as a whole survive the next five years), and live service is one of the most hated terms in the industry. Under those circumstances, a game like this feels tone-deaf: less like a celebration, more a mercenary piss on the grave.

@HAWKER37 7 ай бұрын

As a lifelong, DC superhero fan it really makes me sad that this game is going down the road that it is. I don’t understand the obsession with making bad guys good and good guys bad. I think people would fall head over heels for a well-made superman game, where he’s actually the good guy for the first time in a decade.

@pepita2437 7 ай бұрын

I mean Arkham Harley lecturing Batman on moralty? Arham Harley is a very evil version of teh character, she killed kids canonically, helped Joker torture Jason, and killed thousands for fun. The writers brushed all of this off like nothing.

@wesleysnipes7492 6 ай бұрын

It's only a demo really, but highly recommend you check out Undefeated. Very cool proof-of-concept. I also really like how your "health" is the city since you're sposed to be...Well, basically Superman

@pepita2437 6 ай бұрын

@@wesleysnipes7492 I'm gonna check it out asap. Thanks.

@FunnyFenix 7 ай бұрын

Warner Bros: "Fine! What's 9 more years? I can always start again, make another live service cash grab."

@Goldhunter64 7 ай бұрын

I See what you did there

@johnyshadow 7 ай бұрын

"Think, gamedevs, think!" "What´s 10 more years? We can always start again, find another gamedev company."

@yofwill 7 ай бұрын

ROFL! Oh my goodness!

@Herowebcomics 7 ай бұрын

Can they do it with no money? Because that's what they are aiming for!😡

@TheBLT883 7 ай бұрын

@@Herowebcomics bro its WB, they are always whoring themselves out to companies for money

@franaguilar 7 ай бұрын

The saddest part is you can see dim flickers of Rocksteady's genius buried beneath all of the bad/poor decisions made. Rest in Peace Rocksteady, we’ll remember you for the Arkham trilogy, mostly.

@mrwakacorp 7 ай бұрын

The saddest part are these smarty, ingratiating, and ignorant comments.

@batmanick2490 7 ай бұрын

Leave the multi million dollar company alone lookin ass@mrwakacorp

@kieranadamson3224 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, like say the few good bits of how Batman was handled. Seeing him just glaring at you from afar before vanishing is genuinely fantastic. The only thing that could make it better is if he'd say something eerie over the radio to signify he's watching you then you'd be stuck desperately trying find him.

@asain3586 7 ай бұрын

@@mrwakacorp Like yours?

@mrwakacorp 7 ай бұрын

@@asain3586 No. Like the one above. You know the one I replied to with my statement. You're a bit challenged aren't you honey?

@ClimaxDocumentary 7 ай бұрын

Suicide squad; kill the resume of a once great studio

@kylerclarke2689 7 ай бұрын

Their claim to fame is making one good game four times

@808Slush 7 ай бұрын

They made 3 games, and each one was innovative compared to the last.@@kylerclarke2689

@greenboots5823 7 ай бұрын

@@kylerclarke2689 I would have taken that one good game a 5th time in a heart beat over this trash.

@kyotheman69 7 ай бұрын

blame sweet baby, woke company that had hand in this train wreck, why Spiderman 2 and God of war 2 had woke themes

@vladiesc 7 ай бұрын

That's actually the new name of the studio: Professional suicide squad

@Abrasive-Heat 7 ай бұрын

The good: The cut scenes look pretty most of the time. The bad: everything else.

@radio2299 7 ай бұрын

What's crazy is I have zero interest in this game, but I watched the whole review because I enjoy hearing your breakdowns of what's good and what doesn't work and why it doesn't work.

@weswatson4616 7 ай бұрын

I routinely do the same...SkillUp and ACG get watched regardless of content.

@Craul08 7 ай бұрын

I watched cos he was actually very positive in the preview and I wondered what changed.

@Itharl 7 ай бұрын

There are several reviewers that are very good at breaking down the game design in a way that is easy to understanding and genuinely interesting, SkillUp is one of the best at this. I always watch their stuff (Ralph and Austin are both good at this, so I'm including them both) when I'm curious about game design, even if I'm not interested in the game itself.

@NatalisYT 7 ай бұрын

The live service model and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 7 ай бұрын

it's all Destiny 1's fault e.e

@ZoelQuinn 7 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz Nah this all stems from one thing, paid horse armor. That's the catalyst to all the scummy practices like this bullshit

@XavierFox42 7 ай бұрын

Aka capitalism. Seeking the absolute maximum profit at all times at the expense of everything else.

@swans184 7 ай бұрын

@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz I remember how bright-eyed and optimistic the original Destiny 1 promo material was. Wonder if any Destiny devs have ever thought about what they've wrought on the gaming industry lol

@bramv7174 7 ай бұрын

Exactly it's killing the industry (also based marianne enjoyer)

@michaelramon2411 7 ай бұрын

We talk a lot about "a good idea executed badly" and "a bad idea executed badly", but it seems like this is an example of a bad idea executed by talented people who can't overcome its badness. Or, perhaps more accurately, two decent but incompatible ideas (the story and the gameplay systems) running into each other.

@kukuc96 7 ай бұрын

I don't think this even passes for bad idea(s) executed well. It's more like bad idea(s) executed in an extremely mediocre fashion.

@NateTheScot 7 ай бұрын

most of the original Rocksteady devs left to make a new studio when they were forced to make this a live service piece of shit by WB. It's not Rocksteady anymore. It's more like Shaky Ground.

@gavo7911 7 ай бұрын

@@NateTheScotNo, that isn’t true. It was just the two co-founders. Their new studio is pulling folks from across the industry.

@bingusdingus39 7 ай бұрын

@@gavo7911unrelated question but where's your profile pic from?

@thaddeusgenhelm8979 7 ай бұрын

@@bingusdingus39 It's from the game "VA-11 Hall-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action", based on what I can find on Google her name is Dorothy.

@andymandy8862 7 ай бұрын

That scene where the flash has a brief moment of clarity with wonder woman was actually impactful, why the hell didn’t they do one for every hero? It’s just so strange that only Barry got to have one, you would think batman, THE batman that rocksteady made would have that honor.

@Saywhatnow72 7 ай бұрын

They had the perfect set up for it with Harley. She could have said how much it sucked that he wasn't the real batman. And even say something to the effect, is the real batman still in there somewhere because she knows all her words are wasted on the corrupted version. And she can end him with respect and remark on how she is saving the real bats. Or have the real batman come through and ask her to. Something anything is better than what we got.

@robinnouara3681 7 ай бұрын

the visual clutter here is honestly unbelievable. never got this bad a headache from just looking at gameplay

@swans184 7 ай бұрын

It's like if a mobile ad was a console video game lmao

@madsines5301 7 ай бұрын

It's worse in game. I honestly wondered if I was just 'getting old' but no, glad to see other people have the same complaint.

@MountainView21 7 ай бұрын

visual diarrhoea....

@marchmelloow 7 ай бұрын

Rocksteady saw that Elden Ring meme about what its UI would look like if Ubisoft made it, and took it as a challenge, lol

@Agiranto 7 ай бұрын

11:15 - even worse is that she refuses to acknowledge or take accountability for ANY F-ed up stuff she did with Joker. WILLINGLY

@Drebolaskan 7 ай бұрын

A lack of accountability? From the icon of modern day feminism? Hahahahahahaha

@bjcantrell1990 7 ай бұрын

@@Drebolaskan Truth.

@TrueDiox 7 ай бұрын

I remember how MESSED UP Harley got to be at the end of Arkham City and especially the "Harley Quinn's Revenge" DLC. She had gone seriously dark and I LOVED it. Then, come Arkham Knight and we're back to generic clown chick. Like WTF?!

@Comicbroe405 7 ай бұрын

Never seen "absolutely do not" in a review title before.. This is exciting

@itol2201 7 ай бұрын

he's used it a good few times

@reuben8648 7 ай бұрын

@@itol2201 He's only used it once and that was with Jedi Survivor

@pugpolice4323 7 ай бұрын

@reuben8648 Jedi was he cannot recommend it because its launch performance was shit, less the quality of the game compared to this.

@jamesclarkson156 7 ай бұрын

Jedi survivor he used it. Redfall was called an absolute catastrophe. Biomutant was a "definitely do not". Gollum was "worse than the lowest expectations". My takeaway is that Skillup just likes mixing things up with the titles.

@reuben8648 7 ай бұрын

@@pugpolice4323 Cool but the only other time he uses the video title "I absolutely cannot" is Jedi Survivor...

@LadyDoomsinger 7 ай бұрын

Every time a new "live service" game is released, I remember why I don't play live service games anymore.

@E-Chap 7 ай бұрын

I agree and I haven't even played a single one.

@yolsil775 7 ай бұрын

The only live service game I can recommend is Helldivers II It's so fucking good it isn't even funny. Give it a try :)

@woolife171 7 ай бұрын

Helldiver's 2?

@LadyDoomsinger 7 ай бұрын

@@woolife171 @yolsil775 I don't know how what I said in my comment could possibly be construed as a request for Live Service recommendations...

@LadyDoomsinger 7 ай бұрын

@@woolife171 I wasn't asking for recommendations.

@banestryfe 7 ай бұрын

I personally think this story would've been more compelling if it were a Teen Titans/Young Justice game instead of the Suicide Squad. Having to be their sidekicks/the people closest to them and have to take them down could make for great deep emotional storytelling.

@drabdadster0790 7 ай бұрын

Seriously, even in that Batman monologue talking about how Barbara, Tim, and Jason all had to team up. It’s all right there yet pointless in this game

@ardent835 7 ай бұрын

Well they did kind of try that idea with Gotham Knights and that didn't work out too well, this should've been Batman- Save the Justice League. Hear me out Bruce goes into hiding after the events of Arkham Knight and when Brainiac brainwashes the Justice League then the Batman comes back from retirement.

@banestryfe 7 ай бұрын

@ardent835 even that would've worked, yeah. Had Kevin and everything. I wouldn't compare Gotham Knights to the Teen Titans idea though only because in GK bats was dead and they just had to take care of Gotham, whereas with the Titans, they'd just be replacing SS to take down their mentors. Either way, your idea would've worked just as well. Especially because they already had the lineage of making Bats centric games. A Babel situation would've been the icing.

@ardent835 7 ай бұрын

@banestryfe Well at the end of Gotham Knight you have to fight a resurrected Batman so the sidekicks are basically going against their mentor but yeah I would've taken a Teen Titans or a straight up Justice League game over any of those.

@superQman600 7 ай бұрын

This is why companies never try anything different. They have to play it safe because y’all like the same stories over and over. You quite literally just said “this game would be better if you just played the good guys and took down other good guys”. This is why gaming is boring now..

@nycto5335 7 ай бұрын

I am baffled they did not follow more of Borderlands homework. Sure, make em all use guns as a base but actually give them a character kit that feels unique.

@marcusss7565 7 ай бұрын

I agree but the traversal is clearly what they wanted to use to differentiate each character, in terms of movement everyone in borderlands is basically the same

@jamescarpenter855 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusss7565when you develop a looter shooter who cares about the movement character abilities and different playstyles based on what character and weapons you use is imperative and a must to get it right if you want a looters shooter to be successful

@marcusss7565 7 ай бұрын

@@jamescarpenter855 I get you, i personally enjoy games with good traversal so im happy we have a looter that leans into that. I’d love it if destiny or borderlands expanded their traversal

@jamescarpenter855 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusss7565 well that's fine but when the shooting in a looters shooter is like it is in this game then the movement doesn't do enough to make a game good

@Darion350 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusss7565 This is why I was pissed when EA screwed the pooch with Anthem. All the suits felt unique with different weapons and traversal capabilities.

@IfYouSeekCaveman 7 ай бұрын

I REALLY want to know what they did with that one year delay.

@GonzalezJio 7 ай бұрын

Weapons had a gear score. They mentioned they removed that feature in their discord

@marcusss7565 7 ай бұрын

I think they basically used that time to finish the first year of seasons, I’m assuming they saw a lot of backlash coming so they can use that time now to try and fix where they went wrong rather than be falling behind in making seasonal content

@webbedshadow2601 7 ай бұрын

uhhhhhhhhhhhh bug fixing lmao

@IsaacChoo88 7 ай бұрын

Remastering how Batman die

@SpagmanAus 7 ай бұрын

Probably just sat, staring at their monitors, utterly dejected and depressed.

@MrGalactus95 7 ай бұрын

How hard does superman have to try to lose against this line up of character? How hard is Flash holding back that he can't just run in a straight line and pull Harley's head off. Like this lineup to fight the justice league just makes no sense. Also how can you make a "justice league" and not have Aquaman and Martian Manhunter? Like every single decision is terrible, it's actually kind of impressive.

@Rat_Fบcker 7 ай бұрын

Yeah flash literally kill Lex in less than 1 frame absolutely clean but then start to play around with the team

@Violaphobia 7 ай бұрын

It’s JRPG levels of “character in the cutscene” vs “character when I play” power levels

@hareendrangangadharan6974 7 ай бұрын

yeah I get it, if its the real Justice league they won't kill the squad because of moral grounds but these are braniac converted so why they holding up ?

@Hawkeye83627 7 ай бұрын

Nah nah nah, you forget, silly! This is a live service, they'll sell you the Martian Manhunter and Aquaman campaigns for half the price of the full release a few more months apart after release. Truly, amazing game design 😂😂😂 Ugh, live services, amirite?

@user-lb9xw4xf2q 7 ай бұрын

Maybe Shark would have a chance, since his powers are magic-based and magic is a weakness of Superman.

@NoName...... 7 ай бұрын

Note to everyone: All the people who worked on the Arkham games left and founded Hundred Star Games while this was in development. Thats why it feels so different.

@0uttaS1TE 7 ай бұрын

So it's a similar situation to Three Fields Entertainment or Embark Studios

@TheCactuar124 7 ай бұрын

That’s why “from the studio that made *critically acclaimed game*” means nothing to me anymore.

@Norightnowrong1 7 ай бұрын

Not everyone

@ZeeMinion 7 ай бұрын

Yes but they laid the groundwork for this game before they took off

@SuitcaseMurphy17 7 ай бұрын

People keep pointing this out, but Rocksteady’s founders didn’t leave until October 2022, near what was supposed to be the end of Suicide Squad’s development. Suicide Squad is every bit the next game by the Arkham team, even if it looks like those devs jumped ship when they realized they were making a dud.

@willg3220 7 ай бұрын

Every time a game built around a battlepass fails, a quality game idea gets its wings

@marcusclark1339 7 ай бұрын

say it bluntly: THE GAME IS BAD and we knew that DAY 1 from the first TRAILER why its bad: ESG, Sweet Baby Inc, Rocksteady not being the same company as before, agenda, and live service a thread: ESG ----- all about performative ideological belief of being moral in censorship, moral puritanism, ethnocentrism and a core belief that their way is better than any other, as a result they look to the old (outfits, designs, sex appeal, characterization, lore) and change them to fit their narrow view of what is good look into the game's bio and you feel how much it hates characters, its shilling for Wonder Woman as a character, bastardization of ideals like cop = bad to them, and butchering lore with retcons to fit their narrative on "inclusion" Sweet Baby Inc ----- most AAA games ascribe to them cause consultant firm gives them money so even if game does bad they make money, in their minds that's justification to burn every bridge to appease to it they're in charge of script writing of narrative, audio logs, banter, and more and it shows they hate every male lead, especially if white and hero, they view lantern as a villain cause he's a black space cop so the black criminal has to be the one to kill them - cause black on black crime so inclusive WW has 6+ paragraphs of lex simping for her in her bio and phrases like she saved us from toxic masculinity which should be the most obvious sign of agenda pushing in this product constant undervaluing of the heroes and legacies while painting the villains as better and more moral tells u of how big companies like these view morals, all inverse Rocksteady ------ Many including the founders, have left this company and it shows in the quality degradation the design is so telling as well in characters and design the amount of broad androgynous designs on women, unappealing and lacking in any sex appeal is shocking when looking back at arkham games to this and how far they've fallen its telling how neutered that is and deliberate and is exactly why they chose an established lore than a new universe to butcher it on purpose cause Trojan Horse tactics to push an agenda Propaganda ----- shits on the legacies has Harley hate her own outfits of old Wonder Woman only one given a pass Batman killed in a random gutter and desecrated by Harley after Pissed on Flash, Left Green Lantern in his underwear LGBT logo in the hall of Justice and Pride flag icons everywhere in a city on fire Game Character Bios if someone looks at that and thinks it doesn't affect the quality of the game then they're willfully ignorant and refuse to acknowledge how much this ruins products

@brasan9 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusclark1339 Please touch grass immediately

@nusoul 7 ай бұрын

bruh this has gotta be some trolling or you are severely mentally ill, seek help@@marcusclark1339

@Grobut81 7 ай бұрын

@@brasan9 Why? He's not wrong.

@superQman600 7 ай бұрын

@@Grobut81 He might have a point but it falls on deaf ears when you just spam the same thing all over the place. It should never be that serious over a game you don’t like.

@lukiekeyz 7 ай бұрын

From rocksteady to rockbottom

@deniskasperovich8251 7 ай бұрын

Having the fn Sharkman whatever his name is jumping around Metropolis with a superman suit on, in a live service looter shooter, instead of having a full triple A Superman single player game breaks my heart…

@GiantDwarf8118 7 ай бұрын

Same

@HeisenbergFam 7 ай бұрын

Its crazy how Rocksteady went from 2015's Batman Arkham Knight to this, feels like 2 different studios

@NoName...... 7 ай бұрын

Cause it was. All the people who made the Arkham trilogy left and founder Hundred Star Games

@jaredaadland9692 7 ай бұрын

From what I heard, it basically is. I heard everyone who made the arkham games is not with rocksteady anymore.

@DOOMStudios 7 ай бұрын

When the original team of Rocksteady left this game had me concerned when it was first announced and man I even had low expectations I was still disappointed.

@bargaintuesday812 7 ай бұрын

It's not really. They left very deep into development.

@hihihi1q23 7 ай бұрын

@@NoName...... They only left recently. They were there when this game was greenlit and they were involved in 99% of its development.

@dsel307 7 ай бұрын

As gf reviews stated, “Diarrhea Christmas lights” the screen is wayyyyy too busy. My eyes just can’t do it comfortably

7 ай бұрын

I can play flashy games, Cyberpunk has lots of neon, and the combat can go crazy. DOOM games also are extremely intense. Yet watching Suicide Squad gameplay is the first time I almost threw up by a video game. And actually lots of AAA games choose this route of putting crazy amounts of particle effects all over the place and you can't see anything. Forspoken comes to my mind from last year, same ugly stuff. The rest of Suicide Squad looks very average visually for me, except some cut scenes.

@wile123456 7 ай бұрын

Difference is doom is very intentional with its colour use. Green=armor, blue+health, red=ammo you can read the scene and enemies super fast from a glance. That's what this game and games like overwatch final to do, because they don't consider the player experince and gameplay when they add more clutter

@michaelmonstar4276 7 ай бұрын

@ It's all about design and how well it blends together. Good game-designers will make sure it's readable. But Rocksteady's people don't seem cut out to make this kind of thing and it just became a mess. - There's also things like trends, with how you have the points pop up in shooters ever since like "Modern Warfare" (the original) and in recent years all the brightly colored interfaces and having stats and a character posing next to it. - It's like they looked at other games, then threw everything at theirs. - I'm sure Zoomers are perfectly comfortable with it, but I get a headache within a few seconds, and I'm a Metalhead.

@stevenesbitt3528 7 ай бұрын

To be honest it looks awful in combat, an absolute headache inducing train wreck

7 ай бұрын

@@michaelmonstar4276talking about being metalhead, Metal: Hellsinger is also an amazing, chaotic game that I had absolutely no issue with. Yeah, readability is important, UI design is important (keep it simple, give just enough info and don't bloat the screen with it), and make the world and characters easy to distinguishable (fast paced games definitely benefits from easy to see enemies). Also particle effects in that amount is totally unnecessary and ruins readability. Being flashy, colorful, make everything look like freakin' fireworks won't make the game better or visually more appealing but it'll make it look more crowded and confusing. That and motion blur effect too.

@malakarvonstroheim5372 7 ай бұрын

Captain boomerang pissing on Flash's corpse is extra rude considering that he and The other Rogues have a level of respect for the Flash as a hero, they don't like him for sure, but he makes them recognize at every turn that what they're doing is wrong by just bothering to have a chat with them and playing along with their schemes. Flash was one of the only few that didn't just resort to putting them in prison and hoping the justice system rehabilitated the villains, he did take matters into his own hands to make them productive members of society.

@stryke-jn3kv 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, this is not the comics Suicide Squad Captain Boomerang in the slightest. This is the movie version, and not even the good movie too, he's from the first one.

@luizotavio44 7 ай бұрын

@@stryke-jn3kv this one's personality is just australian and asshole just those two character traits also dumb forgot about that one

@iRadinVerse 7 ай бұрын

One of my favorite scenes from the Justice League animated series was when the flash sits down and just talks to the trickster eventually convincing him to get back on his meds and seek help. This is character assassination something DC loves to do to the flash now for some reason.

@stryke-jn3kv 7 ай бұрын

@@iRadinVerse Mad thing is, I'd argue from watching the cutscenes on youtube is that of the five Justice League members featured, arguably the Flash gets the best treatment. He's the only one who gets to snap out of Brainiac's mind control, and manages in a single line to sell just how bad this has gone. Yes, even with the at least attempted pissing on his corpse I still think he comes off the best and yes I know that's mad. Green Lantern meanwhile gets to be a very on the nose ACAB thin green line parody and it's just really unpleasant to see him depicted in such a fashion. Batman has been well discussed and is deeply sad given the three games people had to get attached to that version of the character. Wonder Woman gets talked down to by the fricking Suicide Squad as she gives up the moral highground to them which is pretty yikes. Superman gets to be a quickly forgotten corpse.

@leithaziz2716 7 ай бұрын

@@iRadinVerse The DC Animated Series is still the gold standard for depicting characters from the source material into other media. With shoutouts to the Batman 2004 show and The Brave And The Bold.

@Bullz_eye47 7 ай бұрын

What bothers me more is the fact there are still people that defend this game and saying "the hate for this game came from the people that haven't play the game"

@cpchyper 7 ай бұрын

Ikr. Companies served them garbages and they kept gobbling it up

@someuniverseguy7062 7 ай бұрын

And they’re right and I’m sure you bother them as well freak

@RokushoTheRavager 7 ай бұрын

I don't need to play trash like Ride to Hell: Retribution, Fallout 76, Anthem, Avengers, etc. to criticize it. It's a full priced game (least it was at one point), there's no demo available, it requires my money to try it, which I may regret spending, and it looks like shit. Yea no, take your gaslighting moral grandstanding BS and shove it.

@dikastederook6380 7 ай бұрын

@@giversinner971 It's not exactly gaslighting but you still have eyes and can tell what's wrong with a game if they use them. Heck, the story, graphics, musics and dialogue don't even need playing to be judged, you simply look at cutscenes and that's it.

@matthewschoen9827 7 ай бұрын

I mean, it's kinda fair, I haven't played it and never will, but I can look at a trash fire and say "Wow that trash is on fire," all the same.

@nailinthefashion 7 ай бұрын

"Do missions in your world to do missions in a different world that are exactly the same" Anthem? What're you doing here? I thought my boy had died

@RetroProg 7 ай бұрын

Thats the thing, it did die but Rocksteady decided to dig it up, whack some DC wallpaper about the place and release it. I think Rocksteady had pumped so much money into this that it HAD to be released despite knowing it was going to fail. Nine years for this is an absolute tragedy.

@ElihuYale88 7 ай бұрын

Find Jesus Christ. You gave me a jump scare.

@nootmcscairy 7 ай бұрын

Let's all play Anthem again. That'll teach em! 😂

@samuelmcl.9474 7 ай бұрын

@@ElihuYale88shut up and find a sense of minding your own business

@casthedemon 7 ай бұрын

Honestly I'd rather play Anthem.

@ace94d 7 ай бұрын

In my opinion, the issue with Kill the Justice League's tone and difficulty in how "evil" the heroes are is something the entire Suicide Squad brand has been dealing with for a while because of what I would call the Harly Quinnification of the Suicide Squad and their brand. Because right now the push with both of the Suicide Squad movies, even the second one, is a lot more of a "self aware anti-hero vibe" and much more comedy-focused in a way they didn't always used to be, in addition to frequently putting them in high powered situations they're less suited for. It's one reason why guys like Captain Boomerang and Deadshot work well with the squad, being more down to Earth villains: Captain Boomerang's kind of just a slimeball who wants to get paid, Deadshot is an assassin-for-hire with a kid, you get the idea. They aren't BIG villains in the series (like Harley is / has become), because that doesn't really make sense or fit the entire team's premise. In my opinion, Task Force X from Justice League Unlimited is a strong example of how the Suicide Squad should operate, and you can see the difference. In that show, it is more about infiltration and the fact they have to be smart. To fight moreso against heroes of their own level, guys like Vigilante or Shining Knight, and characters like Green Lantern or Martian Manhunter are treated as practically loss conditions. Kill the Justice League will always have a tonal problem on the fighting aspect if it makes them straightforward in killing them, but similarly the tone around it is very different, and much less irreverent. If we're in a situation where Boomerang's gonna piss on the Flash and Harley makes light of the situation, then where's the tension? When Martian Manhunter appears in that episode, it is practically a horror episode: Descending from the sky menacingly, phasing through characters and their blows to take them out of action, only being stopped by a superpowered object they acquired in the stealth part + a threat on innocent civilians. And even that is very close. The point I'm making: They need to either be helping someone else kill the Justice League by providing support, like increasing the role of Wonder Woman for example, or to rethink the game entirely. In my opinion, it needs to be something more like a stealth action or assassination game, more Metal Gear Solid or Hitman than Gotham Knights. Going through levels avoiding Brainiac's gaze or Superman's patrol, lest he descend on you and essentially be a game over, until you can find something to deal with them. Maybe a short circuit feedback through Brainiac, an ancient artifiact like the Annihilator, getting a weakness to bring them down to their level. Maybe using other heroes to help out the Suicide Squad because why wouldn't someone like, I dunno, Captain Atom or Supergirl come in and help? Instead, it is an irreverent game with anti-heroes who only bring out the "anti" for shock value moments rather than more genuine acts of villainy, plus just the fact it has to twist a lot of stuff to get the premise and moments in the game to work (See: Green Lantern). It's all about trying to beat an idea into existence when the premise was faulty to begin with I feel.

@S.Gun13 7 ай бұрын

Task Force X is basically the gold standard for Suicide Squad content. But Warner Bros. has no interest in making it that. They need the squad to be their Guardians of the Galaxy (a band of quirky misfits who never do anything seriously evil), and they need Harley Quinn to be DC's Deadpool (doesn't work because Deadpool is actually funny in his irreverence instead of just obnoxious and zany). Harley Quinn's addition to the suicide squad is where things all went to shit. She just doesn't work outside of interactions with Joker and Batman. She wasn't made to. She's Joker's sidekick, and she only functions in small doses as such. You make her a leading lady or add her to a team of people with actual superpowers or skills and it's like... "why is she even here...? Were they really so desperate for a female inclusion? Why not use Killer Frost or Jinx or someone more suitable?" WB's problem is they're chasers. They chase the next big thing, but they're too slow to actually get there when it matters.

@No-soy-un-bizcocho 7 ай бұрын

You're right, characters like Captain Boomerang or Deadshot work better for infiltration missions and if the Suicide Squad is going to fight the Justice League, they should have a lineup designed specifically to counteract each member of the League. To defeat Superman, use Bizarro. To defeat Flash, use Reverse Flash to defeat Green Lantern, use Sinister Exsetera. Well, the fact that they use those who appeared in the game feels strange because I mean seriously, this is the best that Waler, having access to all the DC villains, could achieve because by using them, what exactly prevents Superman from burning them in the sun and automatically winning .

@RicanSamurai 7 ай бұрын

good analysis here. Your premise reminds me of "The Boys" tv show where all the supers are ridiculously OP. The protags of that show have to be way smarter because if they faced off directly they'd get evaporated.

@fullmetalvash 7 ай бұрын

you must've read my mind lol. I was thinking the same thing - especially about Wonder Woman. Way back when they first showed her in a cutscene, my immediate thought was "oh, so must be how the SS "kills the league"... like Wonder Woman must play are part in the boss fights. So basically, just like you suggested, the SS was there for support and maybe delivers the final blow to each one. But... nope. Everyone is just a big old bullet sponge. Wonder Woman doesn't factor into any boss fight at all. So many bad decisions made with this game

@fullmetalvash 7 ай бұрын

@@No-soy-un-bizcocho That a good idea to use other villains that match up to the League to take them out. They could've still used these 4 in the SS but had them doing support things in the boss fight instead of them just "shooting the JL member" to beat them.

@popeinater 7 ай бұрын

This hurts my eyes.....how do you mess this up? Its like watching a flying casino on meth.

@nailinthefashion 7 ай бұрын

Right, you only need one of those things to have fun, it's enough slices. Corporate greed is one helluva drug though

@theProClaimer 7 ай бұрын

Because Fortnite is hot with zoomers

@marcel-q1m 7 ай бұрын

@@theProClaimerNot even Fortnite has this much visual garbage going on.

@gavinpretorius3564 7 ай бұрын

Why do studios keep trying the fortnight model... they have a captured audience and TRY very hard to keep it fresh.... some srudio could destroy it... aka palworld

@DawnOfTheOzz 7 ай бұрын

I basically prayed that this wouldn't be the last thing Kevin Conroy worked on before he died. But according to so many others online, there are other projects that will feature him. So there is some solace that *this* game won't be his final curtain call.

@tonymaes88 7 ай бұрын

Yea but it’s the last game he’ll ever do and that sucks 😔

@mb8132 7 ай бұрын

Man, the disconnect between the decision makers in entertainment and the consumers has NEVER been this large before, which is ironic because we live in a world where communication has never been easier. How much money do these big studios need to lose in order for them to bridge that gap and finally start making things that people actually want to spend time with?

@NakedusSnake777 7 ай бұрын

When the WEF gets overthrown and when ESG scores and diversity-forcing companies like Blackrock, Vanguard and Sweet Baby Inc go bankrupt

@pepijnvandeweerd2089 7 ай бұрын

But what if these decision makers are not the kind of people that can genuinely see past themselves and their bank accounts? We are talking about analytical minds who deem themselves creative geniuses. Quick-witted, but unwise people. It is time to recognize the tell-tale signs of bad management.

@whodatninja439 7 ай бұрын

it shockingly has a very positive rating on steam 🤢🤢

@FirstDateFrt 7 ай бұрын

@whodatninja439 many people are saying they're deleting reviews

@alejandroparra5669 7 ай бұрын

Yeah Movies, series, video games, events Pretty much any media form is garbage at the moment

@itsthatbrownboiilite5699 7 ай бұрын

There is no way you can make me believe this is the same studio that made the Batman Vs Freeze fight…

@vitorpr1245 7 ай бұрын

The original crew alread left a long time ago

@GigglingStoners 7 ай бұрын

That's cause it's not, old devs are gone, now it's mostly diversity hire hacks there

@kayjay3257 7 ай бұрын

Which Batman is that, I just bought the trilogy and haven't jumped in yet

@x-ScaryBerry-x 7 ай бұрын

@@kayjay3257Arkham City. Have fun!

@kayjay3257 7 ай бұрын

@@x-ScaryBerry-x thanks!

@AdrianNielson 7 ай бұрын

This commentary slightly misunderstood the Batman backlash. It’s not that Batman is a sacred cow or even about the Kevin Conroy passing. It’s the perfect storm of this being “Arkham Batman”, Kevin passing, him getting killed by a character whom he literally swatted away in previous titles, the way this game absolutely destroys the ending and canon of the Arkham series. There’s just so much more I could write here but I think everyone gets the point. This is honestly one of the most depressing gaming experiences I’ve personally ever had

@cybertramon0012 6 ай бұрын

They gave us an amazing ending with Nightfall… and brought him back just to give him a worse and final ending.

@leonfrancis3418 6 ай бұрын

Too many fans treat these "heroes" like father figures.

@davidlewis5312 6 ай бұрын

I will add, it kind of messes up Harley's character. So the argument for Batman (and by association Harley) is that people shouldn't be killed because everyone should have a chance at redemption and healing. Bruce is admittingly bad at the end goal administration, but that aside. Harley is in some ways the personification of that belief. She is the young person molded and warped by a literal monster into this crazed broken murderess. In some canons, Bruce has coaxed a good person out of her. Essentially having her kill a mind controlled Batman is her spitting on that idea completely. This Harley just tacitly agreed with Injustice Superman's argument in Injustice 2 when Kara calls out diana trying to kill Harley. That she is damaged, her mind is poisoned, and for the good of everyone, she should be dead. That's a problem.

@babyyoda6468 7 ай бұрын

the visual clutter is hurting my brain holy moly

@GalaxyWarrior2099 7 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who can’t understand a thing that is happening on screen? Such a clusterfuck of particles and things on screen and UI

@lukegregory5392 7 ай бұрын

I can’t watch the gameplay too long because it honestly hurts my eyes. Far too much going on with so much random colours

@TheMcgillacuddy 7 ай бұрын

I go to raves often. The fact that this game is more seizure-inducing than a goddamn laser-filled RAVE is a serious problem.

@borislaans9343 7 ай бұрын

let me guess: the beginning high point lasts a bit over 2 hours, the refund time limit.

@dactrtr 7 ай бұрын

I used to work in a game company years ago and gave the idea to "gift a skin" to improve increase player base, "no no we can't give money to users"

@jackdixon6681 7 ай бұрын

Which is crazy, because "give players free premium currency" is actually a legitimate tactic to get people to spend money. Once they get used to spending the premium currency, it's easier to justify buying some more. There's real data to this, but anecdotally, many friends of mine played league of legends for years without spending a dime until they introduced the free skins system. Once they had some skins, they were happy to spend money to get more.

@LoliconSamalik 7 ай бұрын

Gacha games do this all the time. That's part of how the popular ones keep retention or even push you to explore new stuff. So yeah, that was a stupid idea.

@mookiestewart3776 7 ай бұрын

@@LoliconSamalikyet if they aren’t popular which I’m guessing op’s game wasn’t, then giving away some stuff is EXACTLY how you get some fresh players in TO MAKE IT POPULAR. Seems like not giving some things away was “stupid” in this case

@marcusclark1339 7 ай бұрын

@ewjiml 7 ай бұрын

Deep Rock Galactic came out in early access in 2017 and has more mission and enemy variety than Suicide Squad.

@_JellyWalker 7 ай бұрын

ROCK AND STONE!

@hankhohn5017 7 ай бұрын

@@_JellyWalker TO THE BONE

@floop74 7 ай бұрын

Although I kind of get what you're saying, they had 6.5 years of post-launch dev to figure things out

@hankhohn5017 7 ай бұрын

@@floop74 I think he's trying to say that at launch it had better variety than Suicide Squad

@Violaphobia 7 ай бұрын

It’s a game with a fantastically chunky art style that reeks with passion compared to the “AAA” sludge being pumped out

@CatWithThumb 7 ай бұрын

the funniest idea about shooting superman with kryptonite bullets is the copious amount they'd need for any character with a minigun equipped

@Iseenotix 7 ай бұрын

Technically they'd only need 1, but superman would also be much faster than bullets especially if he knew they intended on killing him with said bullets. But hey, gameisms or whatever

@KamusariHR 7 ай бұрын

actually kryptonite bullets was a good idea and he can be killed like that my only concern is they killed of the whole JL wtf?? the JL is much stgronger lol

@JamestheKilljoy 7 ай бұрын

You guys are missing the point of the OP comment. Kryptonite is rare, having more than anthing more than a handful of rounds would be lore breaking

@Iseenotix 7 ай бұрын

@@JamestheKilljoy them having a million kryptonite bullets is the least concering thing about this game lol.

@JamestheKilljoy 7 ай бұрын

@@Iseenotix tell that to the guy making the point, not the guy explaining the point

@ronnope3988 7 ай бұрын

Man this just like saints row 2022 all over again. You could see this coming a mile away.

@bp4861 7 ай бұрын

Not as bad. Saints row was literally Xbox 360 incarnate but in a bad way.

@gatrow581 7 ай бұрын

As bad as this game is it’s definitely not as bad as Saints Row. There’s absolutely nothing enjoyable in that game whatsoever. The voice acting, story, characters, graphics, gameplay, driving, mission design, everything about that game was awful. Worst game I’ve ever played is Saints Row 2022 but this game is just bad, by no means is it SR22

@hihihi1q23 7 ай бұрын

@Robert-rm9dg There is nothing even remotely woke about SR. It's a buggy Xbox 360 style open world game. What does 'woke' even mean to you Twitter addicted weirdos? Hell, this game is just a live service mess. It's woke because a couple of characters say a line of dialogue that hurts your fee fees?

@FelisImpurrator 7 ай бұрын

@@hihihi1q23That's literally it. "Woke" means nothing.

@Skochel 7 ай бұрын

@@hihihi1q23i think anyone who uses the term “woke” unironically is still at a point in their personal/internal growth where anything they encounter that challenges how they’ve thought/felt up until that point makes them uncomfortable. It’s a lot easier to label something that’s derived in a of fear of change than it is to empathize with something or someone that feels differently than they do. Incredibly disappointing state of humanity atm

@dv4497 7 ай бұрын

Hearing an Aussie say "Lasso" is life changing.

@Inquisitor_Jeff 7 ай бұрын

The story feels like it was written by lead writers that don’t like the superhero genre and just kinda skimmed some wiki pages and quick recaps.

@pepita2437 7 ай бұрын

Totally. And they ignored canon when it was incenvenient. Harley is a horrbile character in the Arkham verse (maybe is the most evil Harley have ever been in any media). She killed kids in the Arkhamverse, tortured Jason for years, alongside teh Joker, and killed thousnds for fun. T_T

@battypanic 7 ай бұрын

the way this is designed makes me wonder if this started out as a battle royale. like rooftop only battles, the way the map looks, the uniformity of the guns across characters. like imagine 50 random dc villains/antihero skins running around this arena

@rosscocomail 7 ай бұрын

I'm 35 minutes in and I've only just realised the flaming skulls are a debuff icon and not an actual enemy.

@andrewt9128 7 ай бұрын

lol, I never figured out what they were. I just saw them as noise and thought no further

@michaelmonstar4276 7 ай бұрын

@@andrewt9128 Yeap, incessant noise. - I've watched multiple videos on this game now and zoned out because of both what was on screen and being told every time. I feel like the Zoomer-generation is taking over, because they probably eat this shit up. I just can't process this garbage.

@valletas 7 ай бұрын

@@michaelmonstar4276im a zoomer and i hate when games do this Thing is i also have adhd contrary to popular opinion having a lot of noise on screen is really overwhelming to me because its already hard to focus naturally to me and all of this just makes it worse

@heavenlyking8386 7 ай бұрын

Boomerang respects flash. The idea he would piss on him is far beyond anything boomerang or any of the rogues would do.

@emilyh2500 7 ай бұрын

They're not all the same. Even the comics have different versions.

@pepita2437 7 ай бұрын

Yes, because the writers don't like the source material, and hate the characters they have to work with. Except Harley they love Harley.

@edwardurkowitz2171 7 ай бұрын

How is there a "next scene" after killing SUPERMAN? Where could the story possibly go from there? I mean, yeah, killing brainiac, but who cares about that chump when you've just killed SUPERMAN? Do Rocksteady even know who these characters are?

@fcukgogle9213 7 ай бұрын

Rocksteady hired a consulting firm that advocates woke ideology and writing, Superman is a strong White male with very little flaws, this is the no.1 enemy of the woke...

@k92ful 7 ай бұрын

No they don't I assume instead of Paul Dini they hired some talentless hacks and here we are

@Solkard 7 ай бұрын

I actually didn’t even know the justice league existed in the Arkham universe. To think about all the BS that happened with none of them stepping in to help out Batman, is kind of mind mowing. Like at some point it should’ve become national news what was going on and someone should’ve dropped by to help.

@stills5deep 7 ай бұрын

@@SolkardTBF Batman would be pissed if they tried to play hero on his turf

@sam_millen 7 ай бұрын

I wondered this since reading the full title of this game. I assume this isn't canon? so where does this game go? you kill all of the "strongest" superheroes in the universe and then you are done? At least make it an attempt to kill these guys, not so finite that you run out of anything to do.

@TheSpyder 7 ай бұрын

Not many people would put this much effort into a 44 minute video to explain why they don't like a game. I appreciate you, Skill Up.

@antoniomargallo5317 7 ай бұрын

"Lost my footage" ... and the game was so bad, but so bad, I couldn't even replay that aberration again, so I borrowed clips from others. You're a wise man.

@marcusclark1339 7 ай бұрын

@David-ki2xt 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusclark1339It's amazing how someone can watch Ralph's nuanced analysis on why this game is as bad as it is and still manage to fart out a full schizopost blaming "le woke agenda". Actual brainrot, you guys are too far gone

@AnimuncuIus 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusclark1339 It is truly heartwarming to see you so triggered by inclusion initiatives while you completely ignore the fact that a push for liveservice garbage, and not what you're ranting about, is what ruined this game.

@peacemaster8117 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusclark1339"bastardization of ideals like cop = bad" Cops ARE bad. That's not a bastardisation of anything. Hell, it's a core concept in many superhero stories.

@d_ruggs 7 ай бұрын

I have to take a second and give skillup huge props for his intros. He lays it all out, so if like me, today, you don't have time to watch the full video but you'd like to know the general opinion, he lays it all out in 5 minutes and doesn't keep it till the very end. really appreciate that and ill be back to finish the rest

@BP-dn9nv 7 ай бұрын

How I would have loved if Rocksteady made a single-player game around any member of the Justice League members in the time they took to make this.

@nailinthefashion 7 ай бұрын

I really wanted an Ivy game where you have a choice to save or slay the city like Infamous. I wanna vine swing around with a little flower helicopter jetpack and throw sleep grenades or whatever

@Icemanbaaymaac 7 ай бұрын

Tht sounds stupid af@@nailinthefashion

@MaadDawg97 7 ай бұрын

They could have done injustice and let us keep playing as Batman and fight the regime. But no we get this slop.

@salmankhan2739 7 ай бұрын

always wanted to see a Green Arrow game from them

@anaguma90 7 ай бұрын

An open world Superman game would be so fun. He's got every power so you can just run wild.

@cutterg3198 7 ай бұрын

I waited over a year for Avengers to go on sale for like, 10 bucks and basically come with all cosmetics and characters unlocked for free. There's enough titles out there for me to play and wait for this title to go on a deep, deep sale with the same features for free in a year or two. And if it never does? There's no fomo for a paltry 9 hour campaign. I already think I've seen the highlights of what this game has to offer narrative wise in the tiktoks that have come out for it.

@Ganjalf_the_Green 7 ай бұрын

Do we want to talk about the fact that the boss battles are nonsense? How do you kill the flash? With the time thingy? How? Are your reflexes faster then the flash itself? And why doesn't he just crush them at light speed instead of playing with them, just like superman? Nonsense

@brianlozano3576 7 ай бұрын

Stop asking completely logical questions like. Just play are game. But if u really want to find out. Give us $40 for the season pass.

@hareendrangangadharan6974 7 ай бұрын

@@brianlozano3576 looter shooter skill tree baby.. the hate is only from upset fans.. just play play and play.... modern gaming the future of gaming oh yeahh

@KingofBlah37 7 ай бұрын

I'm glad you mentioned visual clarity in the combat section. Watching this video, I'm just blown away by how much garbage is on-screen at any given time. I don't normally get any kind of motion sickness, but the gameplay footage here actually made me uncomfortable at several points. The fact that you played this for upwards of 20 hours deserves some kind of medal for extraordinary service in the line of duty.

@R-SXX 7 ай бұрын

To be fair, the lead Ui designer looks (I don't know her obviously no hate) like a tictoc/shor attentionspan kid, this headache inducing design definitely stems from that culture

@xbulmiruwu6030 7 ай бұрын

Those developer videos of rocksteady trying to hype this game are still one of the most saddest things I've seen.

@Sir-Raph 7 ай бұрын

You mean those -hostage- videos of Rocksteady staff -reading their ransom & propaganda scripts at gunpoint- sharing their *_totally genuine_* enthusiasm ?

@Herowebcomics 7 ай бұрын

Agreed! "The Bane gun goes boom boom boom!" You know what I would like to have more then a Bane gun?! BANE!😡

@TheKillerham5ter 7 ай бұрын

Nothing gives me more joy than seeing these live service games continue to release, fail and be forgotten.

@pdpMASTERP 7 ай бұрын

"it's different from crackdown" and then SkillUp literally describes crackdown when describing SS and calls it "new". None of SS is new... At all...

@fitnessabcvideo 7 ай бұрын

It's exactly crackdown view top down with sunset overdrive chaos, then a pallet that feels like fortnight, it's just meh generic gameplay

@TheCrewExpendable 7 ай бұрын

Yeah that was baffling. "One of the things I respect is the ambition and originality...There has never been a gameplay model like this one." Literally nothing is new about this: Squad-based, loot based GAAS Superhero IP Crackdown gameplay Quippy dialogue Heck. Even "super heroes turn evil." Is not a unique idea at all. It's not unique to DC and its not unique to current media landscape. Like you have both The Boys and Invincible (plus Irredeemable) where the whole concept is "what if Superman was evil."

@symbolic503 7 ай бұрын

this guy was trying to excuse this mess for months. he is delusional i guess

@JJJBunney001 7 ай бұрын

Guys he was talking about a game that had all these features and he said it's not good... did y'all watch past that initial comment

@mehashonhold 7 ай бұрын

@@JJJBunney001 you can see he addressed skillup as 'this guy'. You only call someone 'this guy or that guy' if you do not respect or even know them. Saying this guy basically means hatred instead of appreciation.

@GhostwalkerSparrow 7 ай бұрын

Man borderlands 2 was really the peak of looter shooter games. Characters that had unique abilities, with a main villain who is honestly still one of the best in the industry. Guns with variations that made them feel different, different elemental values to the guns that were affective against different enemy types. Different factions like the psycho’s, Hyperion and the wildlife. The world which felt so vast and diverse. It was really such a good game

@godzelda123 7 ай бұрын

Warframe is so far the only other looter shooter to do it right. Good free storyline, fun gameplay with good melee and gunplay, completely free updates that could easily be paid DLCs.

@길천사 7 ай бұрын

그걸 기억힌다니 틀니구나

@PiccoloBigGreen420 7 ай бұрын

Rocksteady should have been the ones to make Gotham Knights. A co-op game where we play as members of the Bat Family post Arkham Knight would have been a guaranteed success and a great continuation to the Arkhamverse.

@mAcroFaze 7 ай бұрын

The most self-aware thing they could do right now would be to tattoo the word "Damaged" on the product.

@goldensperm7182 7 ай бұрын

Seriously, what's up with these big ass gaming companies spending millions to develop a game and not make sure that the game will be good? The amount of money they will lose doing such practice is huge. It's like they don't want to get profit at all.

@ghastous 7 ай бұрын

Monitisation cos the whales will always buy these trash games and fill there pockets unfortantly this year in 1 month alone there as been more layoff of devs then the whole of 2023. And more to game as the gamers start thinking at last with there wallets and not buying into all these trashing microtransction filled garbage

@candycabngfl 7 ай бұрын

Yeah from a business perspective there's definitely some sort of weird disconnect there that just shouldn't be happening with this sort of thing. Its really kind of bizarre when you stand back and look at it. The scale of it all is nuts.

@vallejomach6721 7 ай бұрын

It's a gamble. A gamble they are willing to take because even a modicum of success can yield profits far, far in excess of that which almost any single box price game can yield. When you have game as fundamentally awful as Diablo Immortal making money hand over fist there is no surprise in the appeal of such a monetisation model. Supposedly that game made $525 million in its first year... and still making a few million every month. Do you know or have you ever met anybody that plays that game? Even those that fail typically don't always lose ALL of their money and typically recoup at least some, if not the majority or all, development costs (this game probably won't though...but some do). So whilst the potential carrot of massive untold riches remains there will always be those greedy execs whose eyes spin in their sockets and their nether regions get moist at the prospect of huge financial gain and force their studios into taking a punt at trying to make that sort of game. This trash will probably be strung out until it's made as much as they can get out of it and then be canned, the same as many that have gone before it.

@Matt-bg5wg 7 ай бұрын

They’re beholden to ESG and DEI. Companies now are more interested in checking boxes that gets them funding than creating a good story.

@SideQuestStories 7 ай бұрын

They believe that art can be made with a formula and haven't figured out that is simply not true. What worked once probably won't work twice.

@randompokemon23 7 ай бұрын

1:01 "there has never been a gameplay model like this one" it is legit DC Saints Row 4

@MrSoopSA 7 ай бұрын

Agents of Mayhem is a more apt comparison, IMO.

@Gaming_Legend2 7 ай бұрын

hey, don't badmouth Saints Row 4 gameplay, that game's gameplay is baller af, Agents of Mayhem is closer yes

@LordPoshnameVonPlumbingparts 7 ай бұрын

Crackdown wants a word.

@johnburnscrystaljack 7 ай бұрын

Except Saints Row 4 was fun

@Soulweaver0 7 ай бұрын

Don't you mean Hipsters Row 2022.

@Skygrove 7 ай бұрын

Who could’ve seen this coming

@joshuasatterwhite9520 7 ай бұрын

Literally EVERYONE who even REMOTELY paid attention throughout this games marketing cycle lmfao

@SkyPoppp 7 ай бұрын

Anyone with eyeballs and a functioning brain

@LorenzoC2314 7 ай бұрын

Literally anyone who wasn’t being delusional. You can literally see the garbage from the gameplay they showed

@connor22071998 7 ай бұрын

>squad defeats a brainwashed wonderwoman, obtaining her laso which helps nulify the effects of brainwash, they face batman and after a long hard fight manage to get the laso around him, at which point he gives location of Batcave which has his plans of how to defeat each member of the justice league (from the justice league series), squad goes locates plans and has missions gathering the needed materials and miscellaneous for said plans, fights happen etcetc, idk I feel like my idea I came up with in 30 seconds is better than this story they had years for no?

@brianlozano3576 7 ай бұрын

You see that actually works. Or have it were Batman didn't get infected and helps the squad save the league. Possibly even have a heroic death at the end saving his friends. But what do we know.

@RecliningWhale 7 ай бұрын

To be fair, that also has major issues since Batman's plans to counter the different members of the justice league were all poorly written and are only slightly more believable than just shooting them. Such as shooting the Flash with a vibrating bullet in a hallway working under the assumption he'll vibrate through it and thus get shot, instead of just dodging like he almost always prefers to do... or somehow brainwashing Green Lantern through whispering in his ear at night to get him to let you steal his ring... They're all this stupid, i get what you're going for, and tbf you only spent 30 seconds on the idea, but the writers would still need to think up some half-decent plans since the ones from canon were god awful.

@maharaja101 7 ай бұрын

It really feels like Rocksteady had a concept of a looter shooter with high jump traversal and a Suicide Squad license to make a game of and they just mashed those two together without thought. You could replace these characters with literally anything and I don't think anyone would bat an eye.

@Herowebcomics 7 ай бұрын

Playing as some generic solders and no Justice League killing would make this game way better!😡

@furshizzle 7 ай бұрын

We found the it bois, the worst take yet on this game. How is it a game can suck so bad, yet nobody understands why it sucks, even after watching an extremely good opinion of why it sucks. You still come here and post nonsense.

@TacticusPrime 7 ай бұрын

Imagine how cool an actual Arkham style game about the Suicide Squad with like unique combat for each of them would have been.

@maineman5757 7 ай бұрын

Imagine a Batman game, where he has to defeat and capture the rest of the Justice league without killing them.

@chillax319 7 ай бұрын

Instead we got some really effing weird game with everyone being able to jump for miles for some reason. Gameplay clashes with the IP like mad here.

@mb8132 7 ай бұрын

I'd rather play as the Justice League first.

@mikeythompson 7 ай бұрын

They should've made it like guardians of the galaxy

@Mykahaia 7 ай бұрын

The part that makes Batman's death bad is that supposedly up to this point Batman MIGHT have already been dead because it is canonically the same one from the Arkham series...if his death in Arkham Knight was how it happened okay...but the writers revived him explaining away his death as a "no he faked it and joined the Justice League" and then they killed him in the worst way possible for shock value...

@alonzoruiz3591 7 ай бұрын

It was heavily implied he faked his death in Arkham knight

@drinkwater3453 7 ай бұрын

I'm just considering this game to be non canon lmfao

@latima123ify 7 ай бұрын

Ngl what was the point of faking his death if he was just going back in to the public eye to join the JL. Makes no sense

@boitmecklyn4995 7 ай бұрын

@@alonzoruiz3591 I think it was confirmed by rocksteady that he faked their death.

@samf.s.7731 7 ай бұрын

He did mention shock value in the review. I think when we complained about this particular narrative decision the most (for obvious reasons), the studio very much latched onto it and tried to make it seem like we're just butthurt fans. I like how it was phrased in this video because it doesn't allow them the luxury of trying to steer the conversation in that direction. "You don't get to tell us how Kevin felt!", sure, we don't, but we are allowed to say how WE FELT, right? We felt that it was a cheap shot (No pun intended).

@geofff.3343 7 ай бұрын

Oh boy, now we get onto my favorite part: The Executive Developer/Publisher "We're sorry the game was not where we wanted to be and we let you down." Letter probably crafted in some part by AI. It's that promise of making the game better and then just sundowning it as fast as possible that really gets me excited!

@Ookayy004 7 ай бұрын

Its crazy how it's same studio who handled joker's death so well with emotional moment but batman's was turned into comedy

@stijnkulche5932 7 ай бұрын

Good point

@kailevil3444 7 ай бұрын

It isn't technically the same studio, they moved out to form a new one.

@zuriyel5368 7 ай бұрын

That's due to Paul Dini, a well-established Batman writer, who was the writer for Arkham Asylum and Arkham City. For Arkham Knight, Rocksteady wanted to stick to in-house talent.

@atiredcliche 7 ай бұрын

How is it comedy?

@Matt-bg5wg 7 ай бұрын

It’s the same studio in literally name only. The people who did Asylum and City definitely didn’t work on THIS game.

@Constellasian 7 ай бұрын

The idea of having the rag tag Suicide Squad actually having the capability to beat and kill the Justice League was stupid from the start. They're literally going against gods/demigods. That's like having Luke Cage, Ironfist, Hawkeye, and Jessica Jones team up to go against Thor, Captain Marvel, Ironman, and Captain America.

@sameerhussain444 7 ай бұрын

I think the idea can work well in capable hands. But not easy to pull off for sure. Esp in co-op structures.

@markymark637 7 ай бұрын

If they did it in a creative way it could have made sense. You slowly recruit other members of the Justice League to fight against each other like summons or some shit. Or just simply recruited Batman for his contingency plans. Sounds like that was nothing like how it went though lol

@SideQuestStories 7 ай бұрын

You just described The Boys.

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 7 ай бұрын

Well said

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 7 ай бұрын

Or like sending in daredevil to fight Thanos as much as I love daredevil he can't fight Thanos without help

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 7 ай бұрын

Games like this really make me appreciate Eidos Montreals Guardians of the Galaxy game way more man

@_JellyWalker 7 ай бұрын

I recommend that game every chance I get.

@MightyManotaur22 7 ай бұрын

And unfortunately that game didn't sell very well, which only leads to more publishers pushing for games like Suicide Squad.

@jakedizzle 7 ай бұрын

Game is top tier. Crazy it didn’t get a sequel to flesh out the combat more.

@RokushoTheRavager 7 ай бұрын

If nothing else, with this game's inevitable failure, hopefully more people will give it a go since it got so overlooked. I probably should comp myself. Speaking of which I think I'll go check out Skillup's review of it if he's got one.

@D3RPZILLA 7 ай бұрын

Sad.. this will sink Rocksteady completely. Then again.. Rocksteady really isn't Rocksteady these days.

@AmanojakuX 7 ай бұрын

Rocksteady hasn't been Rocksteady since Arkham City: people forget how disappointing Arkham Knight was. The Deathstroke fight is in a *tank?!* Clearly this is THAT Rocksteady.

@Kevin-gb7lk 7 ай бұрын

Arkham Knight was largely a dissappointment because it was a sequel to two phenomenal games - It's going to look weak by comparison, but Knight was a good game all things considered @@AmanojakuX

@MegamanXfan21xx 7 ай бұрын

It's Sweet Baby Inc. wearing Rocksteady's skin. The actual Rocksteady talent have opened a new studio called Hundred Star Games.

@D3RPZILLA 7 ай бұрын

@@MegamanXfan21xx exactly

@AmanojakuX 7 ай бұрын

Sweet Baby Inc are just story consultants, though. Bag on them for cringe writing or whatever, but they have nothing to do with the game design: live-service, no end-game, repetitious activities, etc. -- that's all Rocksteady (or "Rocksteady" if you prefer.)@@MegamanXfan21xx

@greenboots5823 7 ай бұрын

I don't get it why does everyone admire the premise of the story? It makes absolutely no sense there's no way SS could come close to even beating Green Lantern let alone Superman It's just absurd.

@juan0808 7 ай бұрын

It could have worked if at least they used more of DC characters arsenal. Give king shark a yellow or red ring. Maybe Harley gets some poison ivy powers from the Green. Give Cpt boomerang doctors fate helmet. The premise is already crazy enough so just go along with it. And it will also helped improve the gameplay.

@fourmoyle 7 ай бұрын

Its fiction. Anything can be believed if written properly.

@cyberklashnikov3062 7 ай бұрын

Have you okay as batman at first during when it all starts have you fight a bunch of guys and learn about the villain and mind control before all the justice league members are under brainiacs control and have batman be injured by superman before escaping to like a batcave or something then have him mentor the sucide squad and teach them how to beat the justice league since he can't fight you respect Conroy and the arkham series if you want him to die then have him be found out by brainiac and die fighting and it'll make sense on jow the sucide squad stand a chance

@Deviljavugaming 7 ай бұрын

They de power the league using Batman's AJL tech, very well written tbf

@aledantih6524 7 ай бұрын

If they did it in a way where instead of killing them they free them of their mind control, putting aside their hatred and becoming better people as their quest went along and the JL coming to terms with their first near death experience and the atrocities they've committed realising they're not the untouchable gods they once were as they team up to destroy Brainiac

@alexramirez4110 7 ай бұрын

Using 9 years of Rocksteady's time to make this would've been like drafting Kobe but then only using him to pass out water and towels till he was 27, absolute waste and it caused the amazing devs who brought us the Arkham games to leave, thanks for nothing WB 👍

@MrTerrorFace 7 ай бұрын

I can't wait for the Death of a Game/Wha Happen? videos to this game in 6 months.

@cybertramon0012 7 ай бұрын

That was a nuanced thought at the beginning of the video. Rocksteady weren't just phoning this game in; they went in with some good ideas. Unfortunately, those ideas were drowned out by horrible ideas they couldn't just fix like that. The backlash from the beginning, where it was revealed this was a live-service game, was the first example. They went quiet to try and salvage things, but the problem is that the issue people had was the core of the game. The live-service model couldn't be replaced without having to scrap the whole thing and start over. Then there was the decision to have all the characters use guns instead of abilities and weapons suited to their characters. Again, they would have to rework the game to fix this problem. The one problem people have that they absolutely could've fixed was having this be a follow-up to Arkham Knight. That's the biggest reason people are so mad about Batman's death. This is the same Batman we played as for four games; a complete badass we made. Having Suicide Squad be in its own universe, with its own Batman and Justice League, would've made this less painful. With making the Justice League evil, what they could've done instead was have the brainwashing convince them that Brainiac is the good guy, and everyone else has been infected by a hate plague of some kind. They're still fundamentally the same characters, but now they're fighting for justice for Brainiac. Sort of how like DCAU Superman was brainwashed into fighting for Darkseid because he was convinced Darkseid raised him. Any evil deeds they do would be motivated by desperation, and we see them starting to break as the brainwashing convinces them they NEED to do these things. And then it could be that they do something so against their morals that the brainwashing starts breaking down, making them less effective. Also, the point about how Suicide Squad's endgame is terrible, and people saying it's alright considering other games had terrible endgames. It makes me think about all the advances Destiny 1 made through its expansions, until you had a pretty great game by the end, and when Destiny 2 came out they had gotten rid of so much of these changes. Destiny 2 may have been better than Destiny 1 when they both started, but why did we need to spend time waiting for it to get back to the Taken King or Rise of the Machines level of quality? I don't want a better game in 5 years time; I want it on launch.

@csmadisun 7 ай бұрын

This truly is the last thing I, and I'm sure most people, wanted for Rocksteady. They're a genuinely talented studio, and it HURTS to see them pour all that talent into... this. EDIT: As most of you have pointed put, yes, Rocksteady isn't the same studio that made the Arkham Trilogy, as a lot of the old team behind those games have since left. Still, imagine being a new hire: joining Rocksteady, inspired by their work on those Batman games, and then having WB tell you to do THIS instead. Ugh. Nobody won here.

@Jeffdaam 7 ай бұрын

They were a good studio, but just like with Volition, the devs who made the Arkham games are gone, leaving behind a husk

@BigBoss-sh2jx 7 ай бұрын

You mean were? Most people aren’t there anymore

@nailinthefashion 7 ай бұрын

I exclusively want to play co op games and even I played Arkham lol. Some things are just a transcendent experience

@IsIamIs-aye 7 ай бұрын

When will people realise it's not the company/studio that are talented, it's the people working in them that are talented. You replace these talented people with incompetent fools........and now you have a shitty company/studio that make shit products

@BuzzaB77 7 ай бұрын

they WERE, not are. most of the arkham team left...

@Deusaga 7 ай бұрын

Why didn't they do Zelda dungeon levels with interesting puzzle mechanics, with puzzles requiring each squad members specific abilities, in between the action of course.. Where the heroes are looking for a key item they need to take down one of the big guys. Like Kryptonite at the end of a dungeon. That Dungeon having a lesser hero as a boss. Defeating the lesser hero doesn't kill them, but frees them of Brainiac's mind control. Or something like that. And some people defend the guns on all heroes thing.. Nah they totally could have had class specific weapon drops. Boomerangs, big melee weapons for Shark, grenades and gadgets and hammers/mallets for Harley...

@ArcaneAzmadi 7 ай бұрын

Why didn't they do that? Because they're hacks.

@TheDitty5 7 ай бұрын

I recently started a new save of Arkham Asylum and I cannot believe how well it holds up in 2024. It is legitimately saddening to see that this is their follow up to such a brilliant trilogy.

@MrPMAntunes 7 ай бұрын

At least Avengers didn't all play the same. Don't tell me it can't be done

@ultr0shot440 7 ай бұрын

I still feel like ghost of tsushima did endgame co-op the best out of any game we've gotten since borderlands 2. The raids are amazing and more creative than anything suicides squad or borderlands 3 has done, by a landslide (including needed teamwork to make it work). It has a brilliant gear system and balanced grinding system for the gear. The best incentive ever to play other classes (I.E. if you want to use a endgame bomb pouch on the assassin class, you need to get that item on the Robin first... then roll a secondary stat that allows it to be used on a assassin class.), while not making it super grindy by allowing you to level ANY weapon from any class up to your highest rank on your main character's gear score. And it was a add-on...