Why Is The Yamaha Pacifica Professional £800 more than the Standard Plus?

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[@aristocaster]

Yamaha has done always just great stuff. Don't matter if it is Grand piano, motorbike or guitar or effects processor.

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

Yes ,very rare a company or brand do so many things so well. I'll add the CS-80 synthesizer, do not own one but it is a classic!

[@GraniteSoundtrack]

Or even designing super car engines. Yup, they can engineer.

[@strumminronin]

Outboard motors, flutes, saxophones, drums, digital pianos, and hi-fi systems too. Funny how they are actually everywhere but none the less are not a household name.

[@GraniteSoundtrack]

@@strumminronin depends where you live and what you're talking about. They are for motorcycles and classical instruments. In Japan they're household names for many things.

[@Youjatube1-dv9ol]

Yamaha makes kitchens and baths.

[@joerobertson795]

Pricing is brilliant. Profit is not in the MIJ instruments, it's in the massive sales of the Indonesian models being the same guitar for half the price. That's the Strategy. Worked like a charm for the Revstar line. Buyers didn't buy a guitar for $800, they lined up to buy an "$1800 guitar" for $800. Curious to know the #'s of MIJs that are produced relative to the Indonesian #'s 1000:1? 10k:1?

[@fernandoocaranza4510]

There is a significant difference in the little details of the construction. But you have to be really picky. I've own two revstars. The second one being a Japanese made revstar in crisp gold. Just an incredible instrument.

[@zoeherriot]

@@fernandoocaranza4510 yeah - the Japanese ones are "better" for sure. But it's diminishing returns. The real cost increase is to account for the lower number of units they can produce given the extra attention to detail. So you don't necessarily get "more" for your money, but what you get is more polished and refined.

[@noahtomato3515]

Pickups are interesting. They sound active, almost. A refreshing change from the classic/retro stuff that dominates the non-metal market

[@nash6438]

Because of normal adjustments and purchasing habits. I asked a local musical instrument store in Taiwan (宛伶樂器WL music center) and they only sell Pacifica made in Indonesia, so I only can $1100 buy Standard Plus, but I am still looking forward to getting along with this new generation Strat.

[@waynebacer6235]

For me, it’s all about the feel of the neck. The pro felt better in my hands and that’s worth the price difference.

[@hollywoodactress]

Any ideas how different the neck profile is compared to the 612 and the cheaper 112 series pacificas?

[@nicksonthevet]

Do the std and professional have different neck profiles?

[@hawkhead418]

Here in USA the black one also the white are standard . The beach blue burst desert burst and sparkle blue are the professional options. According to sweetwater.

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

There is a black standard in maple and rosewood. There is black metallic pro with a maple neck also it just hasn't been listed on Sweetwater yet but it's been confirmed.

[@Allguitarinfo]

I play a Pacifica 721 from the 90s..its a 1 piece alder body .compound radius neck.Dimarzios .Japanese Takeuchi Trs Floyd Trem. Its a wonderful guitar .the neck is incredibile..but i still want a new pro Pac

[@manikokg]

But is there a £500 difference in sound quality between the Yamaha Pacifica 612v and the Standard Plus? You should have compared the Pacifica 612V with these two new ones in terms of sound. Greetings and thank You for all videos you make!!!

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

Major difference

[@Pujan-ph2ci]

The sound is subjective. Both have great pickups, Seymour duncan on the 612, but 612 doesn't have Stainless steel frets and contoured heel joint. Also it comes with cheap switches and pots.

[@benjimontgomery9826]

As a owner of 2 Pacificas 611 (one hardtail, one with the wilkinson trem), I had to swap the factory "Grover marked" tuners (with Schallers) because they felt really crappy and would cut the high E string on the hardtail one. Gotoh hadware on new on is one of the best, if not the best around. I also changed pots (CTS, with a mini toggle instead od the push pull) and jack socket. Total expense: about € 1000 each with a professional setup. Totally worth it! Soundwise, it's subjective matter (I prefer to have a p90 on the neck position for what I play). Finally, if you count the stainless steel frets eand the new contours on the newest models, the higher price tag is totally reasonable IMHO

[@Allguitarinfo]

Now this would be a good one. As a long time Yamaha player who owns Pacifica 721and arevstar .std

[@borjasandrik]

I own a Yamaha 612VIIFM and today i tried the yamaha player plus ,i just felt in love with It,the taste of the fretboard IS amazing,better than 612vii. Sound is also amazing

[@Bryan-ct2qm]

Something I saw on Reddit but haven't been able to verify: the poster claimed that the MiJ is made by one luthier with the case candy having detailed info about said person. If this is the case, I would think Yamaha would make a point to brag a little.

[@kimmolingonheimo]

I stick to my seven 112V models: frets dont seem to wear out, or any other part! havent even swapped any pickup! ( tune them very low, dont use the trem..., pricetag nowadays 330€!

[@bleujazz3557]

John, Excellent view. My question regards the pickups: How do they sound regards 60 Hz hum typical of single coils?

[@tomkennedy6069]

I'm not saying the Standard is overpriced but interested as to why it's more than the Revstar standard when set necks are usually more work to manufacture.

[@racerx3065]

Don't think there is a good enough justification for the price difference. The professional should really have a more interesting neck wood other than run of the mill maple, roasted maple as a minimum.

[@joelortiz2281]

I realize that the standard is similarly priced to the Ibanez AZ and the Charvel DK, but it is significantly more expensive than a Revstar standard. One of the most appealing things about the Revstar, is how much more affordable it is than the competition. I think a lot of us Yamaha guitar fans were expecting the Pacifica standard to be roughly the same price as a Revstar standard, so it is a bit disappointing.

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

Agreed

[@Pujan-ph2ci]

I believe its because of the 600 series Pacifica. They are still awesome for the money. You get great hardware with Seymour duncan pickups. The only downside is the electronics. They put dime sized pots and cheap switches.

[@KYDY]

They already have lower priced Pacifica lineups.

[@eddiejr540]

I can’t hear the difference between a cassette or a CD…there’s no way I’m hearing the difference in dried out wood😫

[@ChidOki]

Yeah I think John may have misspoke there. Has nothing to do with drying it out, I don’t think, it’s about sending shocks and vibrations through the body to replicate the effect of a played-in guitar vs a normal new one they hasn’t been fully broken in yet. I think it’s one of those things that makes a big difference to nerdy scientists at Yamaha because they can prove and see the difference in their computers, but it’s a negligible/irrelevant difference to most actual players and human ears.

[@eddiejr540]

@@ChidOki …agreed 👍

[@pmcate2]

It’s all marketing

[@obendaperkins5574]

Dear John, would you please put that tremolo on a real test? If they put it there it's meant to be used, and I'd like you to show us how functional it is...Sorry if I sound abit harsh but please consider taht nowadays it is increasing more difficult to test gear in shops (as they disappear n favour of on line commerce), so you have extra responsibility when you test gears for the audience ;-)

[@Takianagi]

Love the Pacifica but I don't like the 25.5 scale length. Going to be purchasing a Revstar soon and wanted to say that I appreciated the review of the standard and professional! Hope all is well John! Cheers! 🥂🔥🔥🎸🎸🤜🤛

[@joshmarkraj]

Why do you not like the scale length? Is the Revstar's shorter?

[@Takianagi]

@@joshmarkraj I have regular sized fingers and it's just more comfortable to play on 25 or shorter for me. My Prs custom 24 SE is at 25 and it's really comfortable. My Sire S7 vintage is at 25.5 and I love the tones but hate the feel of it. My instructor suggested trying out a shorter scale length for legato and the Revstar has a 24.5 scale length so just shorter than my PRS. 🤜🤛🔥🎸

[@joshmarkraj]

@@Takianagi ok! I'm eyeing the Revstar with P90s too!

[@tonedowne]

Isn't the Revstar 25.5 as well?

[@Takianagi]

@@tonedowne No it's 24.5

[@cecilejeanmarcsamuel]

Walking on the moon freestyle improvisation Great sound and best demo😊

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[@akaerik1]

I find it funny that I think the MIJ is more reasonably priced than the MII models

[@heitornolla]

These guitars just look almost exactly like the Godin Session guitars, which were still more affordable than this, and Canadian made. Its a shame they never caught on. Im sure if Godin were to re-release them today, people would love them

[@joerobertson795]

Hidden Gems. Keep it a secret or the used prices will do that Bad Monkey thing if the Proles find out!

[@RyanMcQuen]

Godin released really nice Session models in 2023.

[@pmcate2]

It’s a little less than the standard but has less features, so not quite apples to oranges

[@mikedr1549]

I'm really looking forward to trying them out in person. I'd love to get another S style guitar that's not a Fender. Question - how was the coil tap bridge pickup? I'm a big position 2 guy and love that strat thing it does with single coils. Most coil taps disappoint in that regard.

[@ub59]

Wonderful playing as usual, John. I really appreciate your gear review neutrality and objectivity. The marketing of the Pro Pacifica to sell the Standard can be taken with a tiny grain of salt, IMO, though it may be quite true. I do have a slight penchant for the older straight-edged and more unique Pacifica headstocks and bold font. These new ones seem too close to the Fender, almost a copycat. I traded in my Indonesian Ibanez AS 93 Artcore semi hollow to offset the cost of a more expensive Japanese Yamaha SA2200 and couldn't be happier. My Pro Revstar is my go to guitar and has superseded even my American made Fender Strat Pro (same price). I do believe that with these latest Yamaha products -- Pro or Standard -- you are getting a good return on your investment, years of enjoyment and will have instruments you can pass down to younger generations.

[@wizdeas6064]

Do you use the "focus switch" on your Revstar? I don' like it and can't see the point...

[@ChidOki]

@@wizdeas6064do you play in a band setting or just alone/for recording? I’ve heard some people say it helps cut through when soloing live, since it is an EQ adjustment

[@tonepilot]

I would rather buy a US Strat but I could see myself owning a Revstar. Perhaps Yamaha sent these to you because you are such a fan of the Helix?

[@jezwatson8211]

are they all trem models or are any hardtail?

[@monahantp3767]

Sweetwater here in the States has the Professional listed at $2,200... which is quite a bit higher than I'd want to pay. Nice guitar though!

[@orryfishburne5326]

Hey John how is the build quality of the new Pacifica Standard in comparison to the Revstar Standard? I just got a Revstar Standard with p90s and im blown away by it. Ive been wanting to replace my trusty G&L Tribute S-500 with an other S-Style of higher quality and if the Pacifica Standard Plus is anything like the Revstar then i will definitely be looking into one.

I really like Yamaha guitars, but when it came to revstars, in almost all videos I saw I had this feeling the guitars were slighthly out of tune. I dont have the feeling with these Pacificas. I wish they made a Tele pacifica again - I would buy one right away! Oh and you sound absolutely great on these as you do with anything you play on your channel - thanks for the video! :)

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

My Revstar sounds great never sounds out of tune. I have less tuning issues on it than any wiggle stick guitar including the new Pacifica. Simply do to the fact Revstar being a hard tail.

[@noahtomato3515]

You can still get the Mike Stern signature Tele Pacifica (if you have biggish money to spare!)

[@arliestiles3852]

Well, Crap. I guess I'm buying another guitar. My Revstar Standard is so amazing I'm going with the standard model pacifica.

[@Takianagi]

Is the Revstar standard worth it? I'm looking into buying one soon. Thanks. 🤜🤛🔥🎸

[@arliestiles3852]

@@Takianagi Oh yes. I have a USA Strat from 2008, 1986 Japanese Fender Strat E series,3 Warmoth Strat Builds, 2 Warmoth Telecasters and an ESP LTD MH201. All amazing instruments that I love. My Revstar is the most inspiring guitar I have. Absolute game changer. I'm 100% buying one of the standard Pacificas. I literally told my Sweetwater rep a couple weeks ago if Yamaha made a Pacifica with SS Frets at the same build quality I'd buy one immediately.

[@ChidOki]

Do you have the Revstar with the humbuckers or the P-90s?

[@arliestiles3852]

@@ChidOki RSS20 Humbuckers. They're fantastic. I always switch out pickups on my guitars... Not this one. They're perfect.

[@DavidAVest]

@@Takianagi Revstar Standard is very much worth it. So much so, I bought a second one (which had benefit of giving me two great looks). Feel and sound are high-quality, great bargain.

[@tj10777]

I would like a black pro model, but I only see the black model in standard

[@modernguitardiary]

Hi, amazing instruments, a question, from factory the strings gauge is 9 42? 25.5 scale like a strato?

[@benjimontgomery9826]

yes and yes

[@J.D....]

I want Yamaha to make a T-style guitar with 2 single coils. Pretty hard to find a modern feeling T-style without having Humbuckers or p90's

[@hawkhead418]

Mike Stern model?

[@J.D....]

@@hawkhead418 Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately out of my price range, looking for something about half the price. Also it has a HB in the neck which im not a fan of. I might go with a Sire T7 if i dont find anything else.

[@RyanMcQuen]

Godin Stadium Pro or Larrivee Baker T?

[@J.D....]

@@RyanMcQuen The Pro and Baker T are out of my budget, but the non Pro Godin Stadium looks like a good option. Might be a little hard to find one in my country/EU but ill have a look around. Thanks!

[@RyanMcQuen]

@@J.D.... the used market for Godin is great!

[@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784]

Sorry but you’re a little too fast on frets, as a huge fan of stainless steel frets I also know they need to be mirror polished to sound and feel the best, and as they don’t really wear with playing this aspect is very important. How are the frets? Macro videos are welcomed… are they mirror polished? Are they the same for standard plus and professional? Thanks

[@waynebacer6235]

Just played both at NAMM Prefer the pro model but both played well.

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

What did you like more about the pro? Is it worth 850 more?

[@louissanderson719]

Liking the police inspired intro

[@Johnny_blu]

Walking on the moon lol noice

[@StrumBelievable]

John or anyone... which Indonesian company is making the Pacifica? Cort?

[@fainalSG]

YAMAHAのギターは、全て自社工場です。 現在、YAMAHAのエレキギターは、主にインドネシアの直営工場で作られています。 日本スタッフの指導監督の下、日本の物作りの精神、YAMAHAのこだわりが生かされています。 （高級品の一部は、日本の直営工場で作られています） YAMAHAは世界各地に直営の拠点や、直営の工場を持っています。 会社の規模で言えばコートなど足元にも及びません。

[@rakhimberdiyevt]

The white on white looks hella clean. Probably best of the color options. Black and sunburst are ok i think, if you want a kind of traditional look, and the other ones imho are shit. Definitely will be buying a standard plus as soon as it gets in the local yamaha store.

[@sekharsubramaniam1501]

What is the nut width please?

[@lestercheng1454]

42

[@dragan4658]

The pro is only $500 more, still, I'm looking at the Standard + with a maple fretboard as we all should know... that maple sounds better 🤭!

[@joedomingos8486]

I’ve noticed lately you drums sounds are fatter and punchier. What you using to get them?

[@MintIceCreamEnjoyer]

I had a Pacifica that I would have liked if not for its slim neck. I couldn't stand the Pacifica neck.

[@ryanshook8284]

What's the thang hanging from your hat

[@handyc77]

Walking on DA moon

[@Pujan-ph2ci]

Standard model has 3 piece body vs 2 piece of professional model

[@herewegoagain7403]

should've made the professional a nitro finish

[@johnnathancordy]

That would have been cool - I'm just trying to think now of "eastern" manufacturers using nitro, and can't come up with many? Eastman?

[@thehahahaha88]

the real price is 700 bucks

[@MrNamePerson]

What?

[@rafaelfranciulli]

Classic Japanese soulless sound.

[@kaoe145]

You sound insane, anyone can make or do anything. I’ve eaten at Chinese food places with Mexican cooks that outclassed many Chinese spots with actual Chinese people making the food. Plus Japanese guitars have been proven to have better quality than their American counterparts.

[@rafaelfranciulli]

@@kaoe145 I don´t mean it´s bad. Just lacking of personality and dynamics IMO. I like Fender sound much more.

[@kaoe145]

@@rafaelfranciulli some fenders are made in Japan.

[@rodolpheponthus2948]

​@@rafaelfranciulli And this is a major mystery for me.. how can a solid bolt neck guitar differ from another if they are built exactly the same, with equal quality ? Fenders do have their sound and why ? Pickups are pickups.. a trem is a trem.. good wood is good wood.. But Fender have THAT sound..

[@rafaelfranciulli]

@@kaoe145 But with Fender pickups, also not made in the USA but witch fender Specs.

[@Chimp_No_1]

With the new Sire guitars coming out, Yamaha is going to be too expensive and irrelevant !

[@KUM0]

no one is paying 1k for a Pacifica, they also have terrible value at the second hand market

[@yksityinenoma7821]

How about 3k like the professional model?

[@KUM0]

@@yksityinenoma7821 you can get a Fender Custom Shop for that money, got yourself a beautiful guitar that holds it's price 😭

[@bostonbesteats364]

Michael Astley-Brown just wrote about the Pro: "...these are among the best guitars I've ever played, no matter where in the world they're built. In my short time with it, the Pacifica Professional was giving me serious Suhr and Tom Anderson vibes. ...The balance and clarity of the Professional’s Reflectone pickups is extraordinary..." Yes, I think they'll pay it.

[@ajcajc5429]

Flamed maple top. Seymore Duncan's , two point Wilkinson trem, Graph Tech TUSQ nut and string trees, push/pull split switch... all for around 1k you bet were buying it oh I cannot get this much from an over priced strat. I have also just tried the new Pacifica Pacp12 STD , it played much better than a ultra strat its only $1,800 were I live .

[@pmcate2]

@@ajcajc5429lol you forgot the actual good features. Stainless steel frets, chambered body, sculpted neck joint.

[@lukather1]

To ensure that absolutely no one buys it !!!!! 🌰

[@MrNamePerson]

What?

[@lucio_mastroianni]

But why the fuck these brands still make guitars with those super skinny neck profiles? Even Fender is understanding that too much slim necks are not good, and now uses the "Deep C" that is the minimum wage.

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

It's not a skinny neck it's just right and who wants a fat neck not me

[@lucio_mastroianni]

@@BkBk-gy6vr it is the skinniest neck available in the market, since it has 0,78" on the first fret and 0.88" on the twelve. Fender, who also has been having the same neck dimensions, has modified it since the American Professional I and II has the Deep C profile, that has a 0.82" on the first fret and 0.92" on the twelve. They are not only numbers, they feel very different.

[@BkBk-gy6vr]

@@lucio_mastroianni Not even close to the skinniest do some research