Why is there so much beauty in the world?

[@giulias.5104]

When I was about 7 or 8 years old the wonder coming from observing Beauty in nature made me sure that there was an higher Intelligence behind it. That curiosity led me to search for meaning in life. I am so profoundly happy and grateful that beings like Rupert Sheldrake exist, enrich us, and helps us make sense of this experience of life.

Right man on right path, rationally explains the beauty of nature with help of his beautifully special way to express itself. A real natural scientist, real gift to mankind

[@nditahsamweld346]

Scientist par excellence, philosopher, prophet, professor, humanist ... advocate of truth! Dr Sheldrake is absolutely phenomenal. God bless him abundantly!

[@abigailriker2706]

There is a beauty in the soul of Dr Sheldrake which has long been evident to me and the more I listen to him , the more I realise how alike we are.. a pity there are not more scientists like him.

[@babsbose497]

This wonderful lecture brings to mind the thoughts of physicist Paul Dirac who said " physical law must possess mathematical beauty"... Beauty, being so subjective, elicits an emotional reaction on our part, so we are included in the thing by harmonizing with it.

[@pbea7185]

Yes, that's true. I grew up in a world of incredible beauty and in a family of artists. I've spent most of my life in distress because so many people seem oblivious to it. Once I let my judgements go, I discovered that if you bring beauty TO people they start awakening to it. Almost like feeding a baby. People get interested in what they see another person interested in. Thus recognition and appreciation of beauty becomes contagious. It's all about awakening, isn't it? :)))) Becoming conscious .... Thank you so much for this enjoyable lecture. The pictures are lovely. I learned alot. I love listening to the sensitivity and flexibility of your mind. The absence of resistance/rigidity is pleasant. Thank you. Don't worry about stuck-in-the-muck know-it-alls in the scientific community. Someday they will all be free :). Your banned TED talks are awesome!

[@bluemansham1]

Rupert shines, with a glowing inner passion when he paints his picture in such eloquent words ! ...a Really Beautiful Soul indeed! 😊

[@danielpitti9761]

He Is the "Bob Ross" of Biology :-)

[@matonmongo]

Thank you, Rupert... and very eloquent, as always. As an artist and lifelong worshipper of the 'Muse', yes, the appreciation and pursuit of Beauty, in all its forms, takes on a sort of 'spiritual' meaning.

[@jroses1225]

Mystics and scientists are the same - explaining the same thing from different angles. I love your work Rupert because you are both and cover it all ❤️

[@mbear8832]

One cannot exist without the other.

[@montelo555]

Finding out Rupert’s work is probably the best thing happened to me in 2023. ❤

[@luke125]

I’ll tell you what’s beautiful. Rupert Sheldrake’s mind and spirit.

[@amblelocal7002]

I'm so grateful for this video. Thank you for discussing it. This is a query I've been pondering all my adult life. When I've tried talking about it with others they've been very dismissive of me and of the query, but you really 'get' what has been on my mind and it is very good to hear you speak about it. Your point about beauty going beyond the call of duty has been the core of my query, because if you look into the iris of most animals, including reptiles, they are so beautiful - or the beauty we find when looking at so many things at a microscopic, or near microscopic level (and also macroscopic; i.e. the cosmos) - there is zero evolutionary need for anything 'beautiful' to be there as it serves no purpose other than to be visually pleasing. I understand we could have evolved to appreciate 'beauty', but WHY is the beauty there when it serves no apparent purpose? I have greatly enjoyed your talk about this.

[@RS-mj3pm]

Thoroughly enjoyed this talk & the gorgeous imagery, thank you to whoever edited this lovely piece of media.

[@SebastianPenraeth]

Thanks! I very much enjoyed producing it, but it does take a lot of effort so I greatly appreciate the feedback.

[@sarahvegangarden4822]

@@SebastianPenraeth You've created a beautiful video, which perfectly complements Sheldrake's words. Thank you! Blessings!

[@LeonGalindoStenutz]

@Sebastian Penraeth - ¡Gracias! Thank you. Lovely work of art.

[@palladin331]

"I guess I could be pretty pissed off about what happened to me…but it’s hard to stay mad when there’s so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I’m seeing it all at once, and it’s too much, my heart fills up like a balloon that’s about to burst… And then I remember to relax, and stop trying to hold on to it, and then it flows through me like rain and I can’t feel anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life… You have no idea what I’m talking about, I’m sure. But don’t worry…you will someday." - Lester Burnham (Kevin Spacey) at the end of the film 'American Beauty'.

[@tukyrv8027]

Divinity manifests itself all the time in a beautiful way

[@tdottim]

This video has helped my ongoing awakening so much. I get something deeper each time I watch it. Thank you Rupert!

[@deuphoria2587]

This is by far one of my favorite talks by you. Who or what intelligence created this beauty? How can it be random? The idea of terrifying beauty, I never thought of that but it certainly happens to me. That feeling where something is so beautiful you can hardly stand it. Your work always inspires me. Thank you for your research. I can't wait for the flowers in my garden to terrify me. :D

I'm giving you "The Principle" , perhaps you find answers you seek: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fITKg6qHj5uAfMU

[@letshaveanormalname6325]

A few questions (anyone who wants to give me an opinion feel free to do so): 1. Why do we consider some imperfections beautiful? 2. If, as Platón suggested, the world is an imperfect reflection of perfect ideas, where do imperfections come from? 3. If God (aka. Ultimate source, consciousness or whatever you want to call it) if the truth, goodness and beauty, what is his opposite? I'm very thankful for this video! It is really inspiring :)

[@jean-pierredevent970]

"Flowers are far more beautiful than they need to be" is some idea, I never thought about before.

[@lancelotdufrane]

I have wondered about the beauty of our world since I was small.... staring at flowers, trying to understand.. Thank you So Much for this.....I was thirsty for an answer.... very sound logical, and Beautiful....

[@Travelin2Wit]

I found this video very interesting. I'm in the IT field and not a scientist. Everything I know about the sciences tells me that the reality of our existence must be quite different from what we perceive. For example, what we know as Solids, are cloud like areas of mathematical probability made up of objects with relatively huge distances between them. I think that we should all be seeing a fog with poorly differentiated 'things' in it. Somehow, we all; and I'm including animals too, agree that we are looking at the same things and they give the impression of solidity and being composed of the same characteristics. Apparently, from what I've read, Mathematics is interwoven with either the construction of the universe or our perception or both. I coincidentally just watched your 3rd Triaglog with Mckenna and Abraham where Abraham showed a video that displayed a representation similar to that experienced while on DMT. I thought that would point the dialog towards it reinforcing that the universe was intrinsically mathematical. Perhaps the inclusion of Mathematics allows functions to describe everything that a sentient being looks at and processes. This way, we are all seeing the same thing. Can't math describe both the physics world and the quantum world ? Mathematics, perhaps, is itself the underlying reality.That said, Mathematics itself has long been described as having beauty built in to it. I'm referring to the Golden Ratio, Fibonacci Series, symmetry, fractals etc.

[@deuphoria2587]

I try to listen at least once a year. I always find new beautiful things to think about.

[@dertiger1]

Wonderful talk. I really enjoyed it. Echart Tolle in his book "A New Earth", mentions a link between the emergence of the first flower and, as he says the flowering of human consciousness: "As the consciousness of human beings developed, flowers were most likely the first thing they came to value that had no utilitarian purpose for them... Seeing beauty in a flower could awaken humans, however briefly, to the beauty that is an essential part of their own innermost being, their true nature...flowers would become for us an expression in form of that which is most high, most sacred and ultimately formless within ourselves." Also what about the beauty of crystals and precious stones and the special significance they hold for the human spirit. Thank you for such an inspirational talk !

[@Beatriz-lj2td]

Enjoy the talk about beauty and us.When I see beauty in nature "never terrorize me"but I expand.and with ugliness I shrink!find this professor today. he is very pleasant to listen to.Thanks!

[@joanblack6672]

Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes, in the story “The Naval Treaty” has this to say about the beauty of flowers: “He walked past the couch to the open window and held up the drooping stalk of a moss rose, looking down at the dainty blend of crimson and green. . . . 'Our highest assurance of the goodness of Providence seems to me to rest in the flowers. All other things, our powers, our desires, our food, are all really necessary for our existence in the first instance. But this rose is an extra. Its smell and color are an embellishment of life, not a condition of it. It is only goodness which gives extras, and so I say again that we have much to hope from the flowers' .”

[@elvansavkl7972]

Joan Black lovely.

[@markmulholland-writer4415]

wonderful

[@suecondon1685]

How lovely

[@owl6218]

Bees selected flowers for their symmetry as they already had a primitive aesthetic principle that allowed them to select their mates, that is is how flowers became beautiful over time.Interesting point. What about fragrance? How did a whole range of creatures select better smells?And colours? Why is there a range of pretty shades among the flowers? And yes, why do bird songs have musical notes? Why do birds judge their mates for their ability to sing? Musical notes do not give survival advantage And why do we respond to the same melodies? (yes, frogs find the croaking of other frogs attractive too - but croaking is merely a way of broadcasting ones presence, but singing goes way beyond that). Smells could be very primitive if they were only meant to signal the presence of flowers (doesnt the largest flowers actually smell bad and attract insects that prefer rotten flesh?), but the large variety of floral fragrances means that bees (and bumblebees and other refined winged folk, unlike the houseflies and others that are attracted to manure heaps) have a 'refined' olfactory aesthetic. Since floral nectar formed negligible part of our ancestors' diet, and since not all fragrant flowers produce sweet fruit, why did we evolve to appreciate fragrance?

[@cynthiaennis3107]

I think all things are sentient...well...so say those who still have their innate ability for interspecies communication...and that there’s endless beauty for all to behold or detect. I love this man’s lectures! So few think out of the box as he does. He does indeed have a beautiful voice & his words, poetic; his spirit, beautiful, as well! I admire his courage to propose thoughts which go against the grain of those scientists bought & paid. I do so love to listen to & see the beauty & depth of his lectures!

[@akmalhussain2248]

A luminous exposition of a deep awareness that we all share. Dr Rupert Sheldrake weaves together scientific analysis with ancient wisdom. Our sense of beauty links us with the universe and in so doing, brings to awareness the simple fact that beauty, truth and goodness are integral to the transcendent unity of creation.

[@suecondon1685]

'I haven’t been reading thousands of books, I've just been THINKING about it'... Love that. We need thinkers... Thinkers are beautiful people.

[@dr.davidgerstenaminoacidth2421]

Early in this video I began to ponder the Vedic phrase “Sathyam Shivam sundarum” which means “truth goodness beauty.” I suspect Rupert knows the phrase. This was a beautiful video. For a long time I’ve pondered the thought that God loves (and Is) beauty. Walking the beach at sunset I thought, “God creator loves to create beauty. Natural selection does not require the beauty of a peacock or butterfly. Two rather plain looking butterflies would still mate even if they were rather boring looking. As a creative person I think that God is infinitely creative and He loves creating beauty. This video helped me connect some dots of experiences that involved truth, goodness, beauty, and healing.

[@Eloe1]

Greetings from Poland, I've read your book The science delusion - very inspiring thoughts

[@christinesullivan1229]

Beautiful observations xxx

[@imaginedpast8348]

A thoughtful discussion about a topic I have wondered about myself.

[@RSEFX]

I would love to hear Rupert's thoughts at some length about naturalist Loren Eiseley, whose book The Immense Journey is a treasured classic, a series of poetico-scientific reflections on nature, beauty and the processes that are behind all things. Rupert is one of the real lights shining on the same subjects, who is opening this whole area up to wider and wider display for us to see. (Especially interesting to me---tho it all is----is the discussion on the feeling of being overwhelmed by a particularly immense vista of beauty. Thinking of how artists like Church and Turner, the Hudson River school and the mystic painters have worked with those feelings to put them inside a frame, re-creating scenes that evoke the same feelings, but allow us to encounter them in a more modest, controlled and maybe less overwhelming way. )

[@bonnie_gail]

It is nice how he makes it safe for everyone to hear his thinking and a shame he cannot bring himself to say what is obvious but I respect that, it would limit his audience, he is planting beautiful seeds for another to come along to water until they blossom into the way, the truth, the life.

[@TheFrankHummer]

This talk provided excellent coverage of a complex topic. It dovetails in places with an important question in the philosophy of esthetics: is beauty objective or subjective? Many people would be surprised to learn that, even among philosophers, probably it's more widely believed that beauty is objective. Yes the experience of perceiving beauty is a part of subjective experience, but in perceiving beauty, we really are perceiving an attribute of things -- an objective attribute that really is out there in the world. Aestheticians often talk about beauty as consisting of a balance of order and non-order -- a mixture of organization together with randomness. Dr. Sheldrake's example reflect this theme also. I've often thought about the question he posed: what about the beauty of, say, a landscape, as compared to something that is (more obviously) "organic" such as a flower. I think Dr. Sheldrake's comments were just fine on this topic, but I would add that a lot of the beauty we experience in random nature is a function of our own framing of the image.I'm talking about "framing" here literally. A landscape photo, for example, could be very boring, esthetically, even if it's a mountain. A good photo of a mountain will involve framing the image to combine a lot of the elements of balance, contrast, color, etc.,... all of the elements that, say, a painter would used when creating an image from scratch.

[@16wickedlovely]

Frank Hummer I see what your saying, everyone acknowledges beauty it just differs, but still “beauty” is something we all see somewhere.

[@seancoleman5021]

Good comment. May I ask if you consider yourself an extravert or an introvert? I have a theory that most people don't like good music. Say you had a pub and you played good music in the background. I think people would stop going there. They would not be able to put a finger on why and would probably not even know it was the reason but rather just think somewhere else might be nicer.

[@stephen-truthseeker]

Beautiful!

[@10use]

This man is years ahead of his time.

[@larryjackkelly]

magnificent and much appreciated

[@robharrell-xd2pi]

Very thought-provoking. Thank you

[@herbspencer4332]

Beauty is an example of relationships; so WE are responding to the appearance of other objects and the age of other objects is irrelevant. The idea of a property OF an object is an old-fashioned (platonic) view of the world: an obsession with the idea of the ONE.

[@nikjs]

Sheldrake and Peterson should do a talk together!

[@royhurley7572]

They have.

[@davesims7917]

Roy Hurley can you send a link to that?

[@bridge12582]

Dave Sims this is the closest thing they've done to an interview together. At least that's online. kzbin.info/www/bejne/faXZm4mIhrNlnrc

[@mankypancakes]

I'd specifically like to hear sheldrakes wholearchy vs petersons hierarchy...interesting dynamic there

[@nickolasgaspar9660]

They both sell this death denying woo woo ideology.....such a talk would be painful at best!

[@leebennett1821]

Beauty is Subjective

[@notreally2406]

It's not in "the world", it's in peoples' minds

[@fabianaa.garcia2602]

Thank you, thank you!!!!!!

[@patrickleahey4574]

It should be noted that, in the Kabbalah, the sefira in the Tree of Life that integrates and harmonizes all the rest of the branches, is Tiferet, translated as Beauty. Beauty is the messenger of the ultimate consciousness.

[@davidgersten704]

Beautiful presentation.

[@sebastiaan_de_vries]

Really enjoyed from the title to the actual lecture. So eloquent, really a joy. Thank you! Question I would like to raise here, to meet sceptics a bit more on their own terms, how can Darwin explain that the book of nature is written in mathematics. Serious question by the way. Anyone got a hunch?

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

Beauty driving life forward

[@simonhanson5990]

Thank you Rupert.We are treated once again to another extremely insightful and thought provoking presentation. You have sparked off an enjoyable morning of contemplation for me and for that I am grateful. I have long been a devotee of Beauty (an addict perhaps) and am inclined to the view that Beauty is a truly fundamental aspect of the cosmos, from the infinitesimal to the infinite as your discussion brings out so nicely. Among endless other examples I have been struck recently by the wonderful array of colours and forms amongst various kinds of fungi, toadstools and mushrooms and I would recommend turning ones eye to these in forest walks or to do an extended internet search of fungi images - the variety is staggering. Interestingly many fungi reproduce asexually, so one can not explain the existence of such beautiful forms simply in terms of sexual selection. Of course, sexual selection is itself, as many of us appreciate, another instance of beauty which rather than 'explain away' the deeper significance of beauty, adds to the sum total of beautiful things and beautiful goings on. The idea that the peahen has literally drawn the beauties of the peacock from his body over millions of years by a series of selections makes for a wonderful meditation. And then there is the dance! the quiver of iridescence, the courtship ritual, the play of seduction, played out millions upon millions of times. Considered in-total, rather than offer an 'explanation' devoid of meaning, it speaks to me of the sacred, of a universe incredibly exotic.Crystal formations of a near endless array of chemical and mineral structures and processes are another instance of the way in which nature is saturated with beauty. Such beauties can not be accounted for in terms of sexual selection. One might wonder if Beauty exists for its own sake, nature can not help but be gorgeous in an infinite number of ways. I love the thought that so many beauties are hidden from our eyes, seams of opal forever buried underground, mother of pearl adorning shells never to be seen, the light of distant suns glinting on the frost of un-named, unknown and uninhabited planets . . . and if such should ever be admired by any mindful being then all the better, but it is not necessary, Beauty is, it just is. Still, not everything is beautiful and as we know ugliness exists also. This is admittedly disconcerting to me, i do pretend to understand its place in nature. One can add to the sum total of beauty though, in the pursuits of ones life, ones interests and focus, in the way one lives, in relationships, in behaviour and thought, we are no lumbering robots, (not if my last visit to the ballet is anything to go by) . . . The beauty that resides in the mind of the beholder is itself a form of beauty, beauty beheld by experience in the minds of any and all sentient beings adds to the sum total of existent beauty; conscious experience is as much apart of the universe as any other aspect of reality. The presence of mental appreciations of beauty, does not explain anything away but becomes another aspect of the objective existence of beauty. Whether in the minds of insects, fish, birds, humans, extra-terrestrial beings (if they should exist and i imagine they do) . . . is beauty magnified, reflected, manifest twice over (and over and over) an addition to the objective beauty immanent in the very nature of all things. I don't wish to endorse any kind of dualism here (which may or may not be true, may or may not imply some kind of transcendent reality) for monism might also hold true. My own inclination (prejudice) is to suppose that whatever the ultimate ground of being & becoming is, it is one undivided whole, the ultimate source of all that is. But here we venture into mysteries beyond my own comprehension.

[@bipolatelly9806]

Very little modern architecture is beautiful.

[@louisvanrenen947]

Very interesting, and a subject I have been studying for some time, in particular why flowers are so beautiful in SO many ways, and why bees and other creatures are attracted to them. It is a topic of great interest and something we can see and experience ourselves, and this underlying beauty in the big and large is astounding from galaxies to tiny flowers to the invisible. This reality, for me, completely confounds the view that all life is unconscious, without any underlying sense of meaning.. What a wonderful fact., this varied beauty, and we can see it everywhere... a little child, a flower, a galaxy. Some might have experienced this fairly recent fascination with slime molds that you can see on old logs or leaf matter... of different shapes and colors, some which some might call gross. Actually, as researchers have determined, they have a remarkable intelligence. Astonishing, too, is their beauty which some skilled photographers have captured ... variations of shape, color and beauty that is mind boggling.... This sense of beauty is deeply imbedded in all nature, including humans. Rupert, you are a leading light in our troubled but beautiful world.

[@DaKloneLiving]

In seeking the definition for "Quality", the protagonist of the book 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' discovers how difficult, if not impossible, it is to define Quality. He concludes, in part: to have quality is to have soul. I listened to your lecture "Is the sun conscious?" earlier today. You brought up B. Spinoza's concept that God is consciousness and Nature the body of God. Perhaps the self-organizing centers of awareness that govern growth and development of all things are beauty; parts of a whole in process. "God is Love" "Love is Beautiful" "God is Beautiful" God is. Love is. beauty is. How do we confirm what is, beyond ourself? I am, but how do I know what else is, and does it matter? I think it does matter and perhaps we need cosmic leap in this area of thought to progress. Truth is? Life is? Death is? I am, so perhaps I can answer this riddle in myself.

[@parveengaddu2050]

"Dr Rupert Sheldrake, the greatest biologist of the age." Terence McKenna.

[@sarahvegangarden4822]

Is it to do with maths, and the structure of patterns? Patterns are pleasing because order is predictable and therefore satisfying / comforting / reassuring. That might be an aspect of it.

[@neoele11]

Natural beauty is a code... This code is recognised beyond thought. The code expresses itself through frequency vibration, on an ethereal level, and chemical alchemy on a physical level.. This code is the DNA of consciousness, and so is recognised by everything that has life.

[@elisabethdewachter3725]

Dear Rubert Sheldrake, Thank you so much for this beautifull presentation. I am practising the Mother of alle Martial Arts Kalaripayat as this art touched my soul due to its beauty. What is your opinion about the rol of ART in our life? Anthropological studies show that a society will suffer if the socio-cultural framework is not provided in good time and that people who have a role to play within that framework will be marginalised as a result. Could you give me feedback upon this ? What is the role of the Artist in a contemporary society?

[@valthirteen]

This resonates elegantly with views expressed by Jeremy Griffith in his book "Freedom" which seeks to rid humankind from eons of guilt that has burdened our existence.

[@waleskaelektra17]

Gratefully 🕊💖💎

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

Great Video Man , I liked , Shared and Subbed , Yes the World has Beauty :) QC

[@AethericEchoes]

There's so much beauty because it's a gift. Say, "thank you."

[@AethericEchoes]

Correct. I would only add that everyone and everything is one with everything else. So, yes, thank yourself for creating a perfect world for yourself. Just remember that the source of that infinite creative potential is The All and that power manifests _through_ you, not _from_ you.

[@drewakookaburra1178]

Jah !

[@videocatalyst2]

Sheldrake and Christopher Alexander (architect and author of the Nature of Order) should talk, so much thinking in common.

[@cloveravery85]

Rather than thinking about the beauty in the world, I have been mourning the rapid loss of nature, Nothing made by man can equal the beauty of the natural world.

[@zbanch123]

Beauty is everywhere! :)

[@RynaxAlien]

for rich american

[@zbanch123]

I'm russian, not rich :)

[@RynaxAlien]

so you should be well aware how much poverty and misery is in russia

[@zbanch123]

yes, of course, but here is also so much beauty in russian nature and people

[@j.jasonwentworth723]

As the Beatles song says, "The best things in life are free." Beautiful sunsets and sunrises, flowers, fireflies, the Moon, the Milky Way, the songs of birds, the wonderful fresh smell and invigorating ions that occur in the air after a rain shower, the beauty of a poem, and countless other things that make life worth living cost nothing, and can be enjoyed regardless of how much or how little wealth one has. People who see nothing but the problems in life are wearying to me. Yes, there are problems, but would the "only trouble-seeing" people rather be dead? I don't think so.

[@owl6218]

yes, I have often thought about it, how come we find the same flowers beautiful and fragrant that the bees find attractive? Does a bee respond to their fragrance with the same joy as us?

[@Sethan777]

Thank you!!! 👍👍👍🕊🍀 Beautiful 😊 True Beauty is formless Source, expressing as Beauty/Form.

[@terencedonovan5254]

lovely man = lovely scientist - I once viewed a talk/discussion where Rupert Sheldrake and Oliver Sacks were among those at the round table. It was scary and dismaying to see Sacks roundly ignoring R. S. ; as if he just wasn't there - as if he simply did not exist. It was not an act of a truly curious, open-minded person. Presumably he was ignoring R. S. because what R. S. believes/explores is not strictly contained by the material and mechanistic.

[@Requiredfields2]

So there is a literal flow to nature, that is repeated in endless variations, that we recognize and find beautiful. Ok.

[@swamiolsson]

An important attractieness comes mostly from the fragrange( I'm a bee4keeper)

[@socksoppressmytoes476]

This is like the discussion of justice in the Republic. Harmony and respect for all parts within a system that maintains its self over time

[@mohammadnawar4193]

Hello Mr Sheldrake I really enjoy your talks and thoughts Just wanted to know, what is your opinion in regards to the institute of heartmath and their findings? Best regards

[@onlyrte7304]

I got a good idea for the next talk, Why is there so much suffering in this world? Not being a smart ass, but it deserves equal attention. Think about it, almost everything we do, when you boil it down, is to minimize suffering.

[@goodsirknight]

think a lot of the suffering is because we believe in the myth that its every man for himself and greed is a good motivation to have, when actually nature is really about harmony and cooperation, communication and mutual benefit (with the occasional violent death for sure ;0 )

[@griffinweston94]

Buddha answered that question thousands of years ago, I recommend reading about the 4 Noble Truths

[@16wickedlovely]

Suffering gives meaning , maybe without 100 years of uncertainty and suffering, heaven wouldn’t be heaven.

[@j.jasonwentworth723]

He offered *an* answer, which some find satisfactory, while others find it only partly so, or not at all. Much of suffering is a matter of perspective; my parents and their siblings grew up very poor (during the Great Depression), yet they never felt poor or deprived, because they grew up in loving families, and because nobody ever told them they were poor. Most of humanity's problems are caused by humanity (ignorance, over-population, ethnic hatreds, war, etc.), and could easily be solved if--which is the hard part--they decided to stop engaging in those things (although ignorance is pretty hard to eliminate without outside help, because those who are ignorant are often ignorant of their own ignorance).

[@crisjones7923]

And it has received that attention, in fact far more attention, at least within theological tradition, than the question of beauty.

[@swamiolsson]

RS is a good scientist and philosopher I enjoy him, even when I disagree with him. HIs ideas on Cropcircles are interesting, too.

[@rogerevans8081]

I'm a great admirer of Dr. Sheldrake, but he lost me at the assumption that bees do their thing with flowers out of an appreciation of beauty that is an operation of their few brain cells. He is already committed (as am I) to the idea of consciousness in beings that have no brain cells at all, so why should brain cells or aesthetic impulses be behind bees' fulfilling their destiny?

[@geoffbowcher3189]

What about conforming drabness . Boring concrete. Housing estates . Shades of grey. Broken up by glaring brightly coloured billboards out to attract. Flickering intense colours .To me beauty also has an ephemeral nature. Short lived. Flowers in a desert. Rainbows. Standing above a sea of fog. Looking at a huge night sky full of stars on a cloudless night. A newborn baby.

[@carlosalbertodesouza8599]

muito grato...

[@henrimatisse7481]

Several bible verses refer the wonders of creation like Job 12:7-10 “Ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds of the air, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish of the sea inform you." And it goes on to give credit to God.

[@leekilby9470]

It really is that simple. All beauty comes from God-Creator. He is love and He is beauty. But “great” minds struggle to understand that and they would rather complicate the matter with many words and thoughts. ❤️

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

Due to your nature has a kind of utilitarian function. Symmetry call from this things are well formed… These things that we can see through the eyes in process with the brain give us information. It seems to me along with beauty that must be a discussion of the pleasure one incurs when looking at an object of beauty. Pleasure and delight.

[@geoffbowcher3189]

I don't understand how people can be scared of nature ? Even a desolate wind swept coast line can have beauty. Right at your feet.

[@dancagle2533]

There could be no flower until there was an eye to see it--Darwin.

[@Kaliashdevi]

Yes, certainly, when even a tiny droplet of rain on a leaf can be perceived as beautiful, we need to ask why. It’s as if something enjoys creating an exquisite scene to behold. And universal law appears to have created a loop that keeps life thriving; that the capacity to behold beauty also inspires an impulse to create it. Even the vibrational patterns of the orbit of Earth and Venus around the sun are mesmerizingly beautiful. We have to ask why this is so - if we Earth-brain-bound? Does this mean we are meant to invent technologies to know beauty is omnipresent? Or does it mean our awareness (consciously or unconsciously, can actually move everywhere, with or without a physical form and therefore creates and enjoys beauty universally... As humans, we seek to embody beauty to the extent that it has become obsessive. A few years ago, research showed that the cosmetic industry made 97 billion dollars in twelve months, but there are no figures for the global cosmetic surgery industries. People’s lives revolve around beautifying themselves, their homes, creating art-forms, planning visits to beautiful places ~ the list is endless showing just how important beauty is. From personal research, a love feeling is constellated which shows that love and beauty are intrinsically one and the same, bearing in mind an act of kindness can feel beautiful. Whatever is behind Creation simply must contain these Universal attributes that make it a joy to be alive.

[@ShahidKhan-yy3vz]

Ibn Arabi expressed similar ideas centuries ago and perhaps now these perceptions have now come of age and we are better able to analyse what beauty is. All there is is beauty since it is dependent on the capacity of the observer. If we are unable to perceive that the very movement of the cosmos is the beauty then whilst the intellect vibrates and experiences the ismus between micro and macro it ia very easy to miss the aspect that then love is the movement of beauty. Ultimately then Beauty Truth Goodness contained in a human being is Love, which is To be known.

[@Lazara2023]

Mr. Rupert thank you. Since i am vegan i appreciate much more the beauty of The Nature...but at the same time so sad about the horror these wold.

[@musicsubicandcebu1774]

"Truth may seem, but cannot be; Beauty brag, but 'tis not she; Truth and beauty buried be." (William Shaespeare)

[@GeoffV-k1h]

There is much beauty in Nature but the fact that we are able to perceive that beauty to a greater (wider) extent than any other creature surely makes us a special part of Creation and closer to God. (though we have yet to recognise this).

[@gchristyer]

Got me thinking seriously ....I will be back......

[@nightjar8898]

I love listening to him, but I'd love to hear him give a talk on dissonance.

[@jjharvathh]

I was thinking that if evolution is completely random, then, would I not expect there to be about half beautiful flowers, and half ugly? or half the birds/animals beautiful, and half ugly, or half the landscapes beautiful and half of them ugly? and so on. Why to my particular perception do I seem to find almost everything beautiful?

[@RynaxAlien]

Why there is so much suffering in the world as well? Brain likes simplicity and order because it just more efficient to process.

[@OGMizen]

Next episode: Why there is so much horror in the world?

[@gabrieltremblay3918]

cause saturn is alive

[@quasimobius]

Why stop at the world? The rest of the universe is horrifically beautiful.

[@eric123abacus]

Because of the fall.

[@c000rr]

But isn't the fall just a Sabbatean-Frankist Satanic Death Cult narrative to program the populous, to accept certain agendas that they are orchestrating such as Zionism & the theft of Palestine from the original owners: "It's in the Torah", therefore a manipulated British govt. believed the Balfour Declaration was the thing to do. The 100y anniversary went over the embarrassing incident with gusto while people were massacred by the IDF with gusto in Gaza.

[@Sethan777]

Because of *Ignorance* Ignorance of what we truely are and Ignorance what Life *is*

[@CandidDate]

I think the "post modernism" form of art ushered in the popular atheism. And DaDa and Surrealism was the turning point. As these were a reaction to the horrors of war, WWI and WWII, is it any wonder that we started finding beauty in the common? A sort of forced beauty, as if we had become desperate to appreciate what was left of "humanity."? We found ourselves so repelled by the sight of death and destruction, and it became so commonplace, that we had to impose beauty on randomness, chaos and disorder. Personally, I feel that I have been so bombarded visually that I have lost the sense of beauty in the simple and symmetric. Symmetry in fact has become an indicator of being imprisoned to me! I find my cat to be beautiful, but it is a strange relationship. I feel she is so furry that I want to hug her and squash the beauty so tightly that it becomes a part of me, and in that merging, I would destroy her. Destruction as a form of beauty! That's what it has become! Interesting to note that in a patriarchal society, the women apply makeup instead of the men. Very interesting talk. I hope to look harder for the beautiful things in the world now without having to crush them.

[@markbennett8927]

CandidDate I love the point you make about make up, in the past matriarchy it was probably common for men to decorate themselves, like they do ritually in Borneo to this day

[@ninaleach6350]

Google "cute aggression "....... :)

[@ninaleach6350]

Fashions come and go but the appreciation of how things look is timeless. There is no mystery. It's something we feel but can't explain fully in words because it comes from our ancient innate attraction to the world in which we live.

[@pedrosherpa5848]

Beauty is. we can justify it in many ways (words silence action...) mistery adds to it. Those not need explaining.

[@patricksee10]

Because the world was created by love

[@janeeissklar8754]

Rupert is my religion!

[@jayleeder2539]

rupert ,is beautiful...

[@HereForToday42]

what we see is what we are.

[@kenzen3564]

beauty is the great seductress to keep us going and inspire us and lift our aspirations

[@InvisibleFeats]

Wonderful ideas. What if the impulse of experiencing beauty (as a subjective experience) is tied with the human thrust to survive and/or seek God? By following the path through one's life of Beauty, one tip-toes across shoals in perilous seas?

[@SkyDarmos]

Can we be sure that multi-cellular life didn't start off right away together with single celled life?

[@jgreg9659]

For to a bee a flower is a fountain of life and to a flower a bee is a messenger of love. Let your pleasure be a need and an ecstasy. The resurrected soul. Beings of fire. K. Gibran

[@kkibela]

I disagree with the initial premise.. We love them because we remember them

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

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