Why is this Old Silencer Worth $5,000? (Hint: It's Not)

Overview and discussion of the Knight's Armament QDSS NT4 Suppressor. Thanks for watching!
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[@alexisdetocqueville9964]

KAC fandom / cloners seems like the sneaker culture of guns. Maybe I'm just too poor.

[@InferiorRifles]

You’re not far off with that analogy.

[@TheArmorersFix]

Ha, yes. Well put.

[@noneyabidness196]

You’re totally correct

[@newerest1]

Sneaker culture is gay as hell

[@jimmyvancleef3593]

Well I mean, you can wear sneakers publicly every day with out issue at least😂

[@isaac6705]

Your cancer comment actually reminded me of something interesting. It was the reason Estonia made LMT make the 5.56 piston system: they didn't like the amount of gas the DI system exposed their soldiers to.

[@HedgeMaster26]

I've heard so many people talk about how pistons are useless, blah, blah. But that is a major reason. Less gas overall in the system.

[@s4iL_]

funny you mention that, my hk mr556 and lwrc ic-a5 throw more gas back than my DI guns

[@CheesyPorkbun]

Not just Marine Recon, but many Marine infantry units as well! This suppressor is considered standard issue if you are given an M27 IAR rifle, and many infantry armories are currently replacing their legacy M16s and M4s with the M27.

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

And a ton end up on M4s in regular infantry units as well. I've never seen evidence of one mounted to an M16A4 in USMC service, though. Yet.

[@InferiorRifles]

Check out the list I put at 8:46, I included the M27 and M38 👍

[@Frank-uw5xq]

Alot of guys in recon and such prefer the M4 still,lighter, shoot softer etc. Only the 10in. Hk is worth it but only n Force I believe

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

Yeah, the RWK literally EXISTS to force Force Recon to use the M27. You'll also see 16.5 M27s in use with Recon now from about the same time period the RWK came out. Funny isn't it!@@Frank-uw5xq

[@kilo393]

​@@Frank-uw5xq Recon is starting to replace the m4 with the shorter version of the M27

[@MarkiusFox]

Iirc: the perforated sleeve is meant to be both a heat sink (not a heat shield) and to increase the rigidity of the NT4.

[@brisketbaron]

Good review. Yeah, these are fighting cans. Not hunting cans. The flash reduction is likely more important when you’re in a group shooting at another group. Form follows function. 556 is a hell of a round to try and hush up anyway.

[@Chris05STi1982]

I saw KAC at AUSA they said they kept the “corn cob” look on the new cans because everyone thinks it’s cool looking but does nothing other than looks. I wish they would bring the M110 stock back even though everyone issued a M110 hated it. Such an iconic stock!

[@shitboxcivicguy]

Strange, because they have always claimed it acts as a heat sink

[@RobinP556]

I bought one of those a few years ago because it reminded me of what we had and it looked cool. Going back as far as the late 1980s to early 1990s we had that same type of engagement on our M9s, some of them.

[@InferiorRifles]

Very cool! I believe you’re referring to the XM9 suppressor, which is also made by KAC and uses a similar gate-latch system

[@RobinP556]

@@InferiorRifles Yup, that’s it.

[@jimmyvancleef3593]

The shroud i believe helps it cool down much faster by increasing surface area. Also helps IR signiture a little bit. But im suspect of that claim.

[@ABowlofPho]

Good video. I've got to handle an NT4 in person, they're decent to the ear but the weight compared to modern cans is noticeable. For the longest time, I thought that these cans were A2 compatible but I was disappointed to learn the truth that they weren't. I'd say that the "shroud" is there primarily as a way to increase the surface area for cooling the suppressor with high round count use, while strength being another aspect for it. If anything, the shroud would probably have the opposite effect with heat being drawn to the surface faster with the surface area and dimples, but that's the tradeoff for increased/faster cooling I'd imagine. I'd probably have to say that Griffin improved on the "gate lock" aspect for mounting, seems even more simple than this where you gotta latch it and then turn that locking dial around the other side. Just mount along an A2 wrench flat side, close the latch, done and those suppressors can actually fit onto normal A2 birdcages and work still.

[@CartnFart76]

When I was in the marine corps (16-20) everyone had M4a1s with these cans. Except my CAAT Platoon because we not cool enough. I’ve been around a ton of these cans firing but I have never actually used one.

[@heinrichfuhrmeister1244]

I have two. Good can but insane price

[@sp3v0nhotrocks93]

How does this compare to the Surefire RC2 as that was it’s counterpart used on SOCOM rifles?

[@MrSaturn7085]

NT4 is easier on the ears but heavier. The mounting systems are a good comparison of QD stone-age tech vs. modern. After a side-by-side comparison at a range day years ago, I went with the NT4 and have no regrets.

[@bw6618]

One of the big reasons the USMC uses things for longer than the other services is funding.

[@Nocte_Stalker]

Currently issued an NT4 on an M4. It is very quiet compared to other 5.56 cans

[@ryanpatton5937]

If your a collector or cloner then go with kac but if your wanting a suppressor to fight your way to hell and back i say go with the SUREFIRE RC2 . Very cool review

[@MrSaturn7085]

Bought my NT4 years ago after going to an industry range day where I shot the NT4 and RC2 back to back. Both cans will last to hell and back more than a few times. The NT4 is easier on the ears while the RC2 was a quarter pound lighter. NT4's latch makes you feel like a caveman installing it but it's bombproof; nothing wrong with the RC2 latch - more modern feel, still great. Can't go wrong with either one but given the premium price on the NT4 (now), I'd agree that it's only for collectors. I'd gladly pay $2k for an NT4 - that's how satisfied I've been with it. $5k... GTFO.

[@Cbmk18]

Love this classic build. Just got a LE prefix rollmarked colt m4 lower for less than 600 and im stoked. I would love to have this can but not paying that money for it. My rc2 has done me just well and has a while to go. But awesome content as always brother.

[@herecomesaregular8418]

Yeah, from what I've read combat units that used/use this can are not using it to actually "silence" anything. They use it to hide flash, preserve their own hearing in certain situations, as well as disguise the nature of the sound to some extent (like out in the open, when firing first begins, the opfor may not realize at first that what they are hearing is the report of a rifle, which may prove valuable in the very beginning stages of an assault or ambush). Of of that same principle, it may make ID'ing between friend or foe by ear a lone a little easier in the chaos of a firefight. (If you're hearing unsupressed fire, it's probably opfor, and vice versa.) But these cans don't actually do nearly as well as other, more costly or modern options when it comes to actual volume reduction. I'll also add that even the sneaky secret squirrels of the specops community rarely find situations where absolute quiet in the discharge of a weapon is absolutely crucial for mission success. Generally you're trying to maintain stealth for as long as possible, but once shooting starts in any capacity, stealth is simply considered lost/abandoned, and you rely on speed and violence of action at that point. Great videos, man. These near-history clones are my favorite aspect of the gun hobby, and you've got some great stuff and your videos are invaluable!

[@gmyza4849]

It's worth 5000 dollars because of collectors. I still have to wonder if KAC is worth the hype because Eugene Stoner's last work was done there or if the performance is actually there with the price to fit

[@thetest8777]

Nah I'm good I stick with future technology

[@borkwoof696]

KACs are fantastic but their prices are inflated.

[@proma_io]

It looks like another batch/contract-overrun is making its way to KAC dealers. Thanks for sharing.

[@Kiloactual]

Who makes the sling loop on the rail?

[@InferiorRifles]

CQD

[@Kiloactual]

@@InferiorRifles thanks brother 🇺🇸💪

[@walker6296]

So many people in the clone community love Moly Resin because of how close it can be to old Colt ano, but the durability of it is half a step above spray paint in my experience. I'll stick to Cerakote.

[@williamflowers9435]

2:15 I thought that was the IAR with the CQB barrel, not A5? I thought A5 has a different trigger guard.

[@InferiorRifles]

It’s an A5 upper on an IAR lower. Look at the fence around the bolt release paddle; that’s a feature that’s only present on the 416A5’s upper (and is absent on the M27). It’s hard to tell from that specific photo but there’s also a 2-position valve on the gas block, which is unique to the A5. The 11’’ A5 uppers were purchased by Recon by themselves, without lowers with the intent to use lower receivers already in inventory.

[@williamflowers9435]

@@InferiorRifles oh, ok. I didn’t realize it was a A5 upper. Just thought the barrel and rail was shorter. Makes sense to go with the A5 tho. Thanks!

[@williamflowers9435]

@@InferiorRifles do you know who makes the Acro mount shown in that pic?

[@InferiorRifles]

@@williamflowers9435 I cannot 100% confirm, but I have been told that it was made by Trijicon at the request of Recon and is not yet available commercially

[@williamflowers9435]

@@InferiorRifles thanks!

[@xefitnop]

I can’t believe they cost that much now….glad I got mine when I did

[@Kindjester79]

Just like every other KAC product. Still can't find an m5 RAS that isnt 300 plus. But I am a part of the problem lol i sold some RAS rails for 250 a while back 💀

[@m118lr]

Virtually NOTHING..or better said “ANYTHING”..is worth the acquisition price.

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

This is very annoying, because it's one of like two or three suppressors in existence I want because I'm a nerd for Marine rifles, and it's the contract can.

[@rexnanorum9925]

JR Machine Pro Corn Cob.. form 1

[@BasementOps]

You should send it to Ecco machine to get it Re Cored.

[@theredhands843]

Your Vid’s are not popping up in the Main feed for Months.

[@brokenbstring]

do you have a link to this announcement?

[@InferiorRifles]

KAC announced their new 3D printed suppressor line at Shot Show 2023 www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/01/21/shot-2023-new-3d-printed-suppressors-from-knights-armament/

[@Frank-uw5xq]

One advantage for Mil is it attaches to A2 comp, right

[@InferiorRifles]

Nope, the NT4 flash hider is different than an A2 muzzle device

[@Frank-uw5xq]

@@InferiorRifles it has a little index notch right? I wasn't sure if required the notch

[@Frank-uw5xq]

Also is the gate "ring" area wider to close it?

[@InferiorRifles]

@@Frank-uw5xq even if you added the notch you wouldn’t be able to mount the NT4 using an A2 birdcage, they have different dimensions

[@Frank-uw5xq]

@@InferiorRifles Roger that, wasn't considering doing that, just curious on it cause they resemble each other some

[@garretzeran951]

I got the griffin armament m4 sdi and once I spray painted it you couldn’t really tell a difference lol. They pretty much copied KAC

[@InferiorRifles]

Griffin has a habit of doing that. Which wouldn’t be nearly as worthy of criticism if they didn’t throw a tantrum every time someone points that out

[@garretzeran951]

@@InferiorRifles yeah I’m not defending them by any means. It’s an okay can and the cloners may skin me alive but it does okay on my MK18. They’re rifles look almost identical to Kac as well it’s pretty funny. But at the same time I didn’t feel like paying 5k for the nt4

[@InferiorRifles]

@@garretzeran951 Griffin cans are fine, I’m not bashing the products themselves. Just the crybabies that run the company’s social media, they’ve been a meme in the clone community for quite a while lol

[@MelissaTam-e3p]

Williamson Vista

[@alexlevinson8629]

I’ve got one, and while I certainly dig it, there’s no way it’s worth 2500 let alone 5000

[@LynellMurray-u4v]

Daphnee Lodge

[@trevormcguff1697]

It’s $5,000 due to the tonnage of raw material mineral cost needed to construct this obese can. The recycling value of just the metal is easily $4,750! 😂

[@SOCMMOB]

Nothing KAC makes is worth the asking price.

[@rexnanorum9925]

it's true, this can is a good example. But damn, early GWOT KAC aesthetics are amazing.

[@ninjadave1970]

When your life is on the line... You get what you pay for!

[@LannyKusinski-c3v]

Rosendo Circle

[@FaustoCicciarelli-f9q]

Kertzmann Highway

[@johnmarsh6337]

Sorry love this silencer still used it on my 416. Started using the acc but will always love this silncer. Its a great silencer.

[@ShanaGriffin-j9s]

Gloria Rest

[@rexnanorum9925]

Jr Machine Pro Corn Cob clone... $700

[@InferiorRifles]

@@rexnanorum9925 ew.

[@ronsmith9251]

Clone dorks and collector Fudds

[@RolandAnderson-o1k]

Lora Heights

[@PunaJussi]

sell it quickly :)

[@jes0lis]

Joke.

[@tasjan9190]

NEVER discount the "Cool" factor when it comes to this shit