Why is this SO MUCH CHEAPER?! - Is it the same? EazyRC Patriot Vs Rochobby Katana

[@TomleyRC]

Guys... this is a long one, and all on the bench. Got a few issues with an old back Injury at the moment, so trying not to do to much to aggravate it. Fresh look garage and some more usual content coming in the next few weeks 😎👌

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

Hope the back feels better soon !

[@MCsCreations]

Get better soon, Tomley!

[@philhumber1534]

I have 2 forms of arthritis in my spine and hips so I feel for you buddy with back pain. Add to that your house move as well !. Take it easy, don't think anyone would begrudge you a bit of R and R.

[@Fonzierc]

Speedy recovery mate 👍

[@mattford6956]

That dually project is something that I can't wait for

[@jasonprince8655]

I own a 80 series so my wife bought me the Patriot. For not being an RC guy, I really like it and finding myself learning more about RC's and purchasing more. Thanks for the videos.

[@SergeyPRKL]

Get the Hobbyplus Toyota copy too. it performs better offroad, ofc because the chassi is 220grams lighter. The frames are almost exactly same weight. So this Patriot model is very topheavy. Both are top stuff, just another performs better visually and the other on track.

[@jasonprince8655]

@@SergeyPRKL Thank you for the information.

[@robsrcinsanity1220]

Thanks for the comparison. I don’t see paying more when there’s not any more difference in them than what you showed. Great video 👍🏻🍻

[@Hjerte_Verke]

To all here: those are actually plain bearings in the axles and not bushings. They're not plain brass bearings either, they are Oilite bearings and fairly high tech {at least for 1930's tech}. They're made of cast porous bronze and other alloys that are impregnated with oil {self lubricating} so they are ideal for low speed crawlers and fabulous for water resistance, much more so than ball bearings. I noticed the base model MN86 comes with these Oilite bearings too, so I wouldn't object to them out of hand.

[@semperatis]

Now that is a tricky one Phil,personally I'd go for the Patriot,because even adding upgrades like wheel weights or better electronics,you'll still end up cheaper than the Katana.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I agree 👍

[@TheFlood69]

I'm a simple man, I see Land Cruiser and I click.

[@TomleyRC]

Lovely trucks 😎

[@_crawlerhq9621]

FAX

[@SodlidDesu]

"I'm gonna put the prices above them... The price of that... and the price of that..." I'm not gonna lie, I stared at the screen waiting for them to pop-up.

[@TomleyRC]

Haha I know.. I only noticed that once I’d uploaded it to KZbin. Hence the thumbnail and the description 😅

[@kode3020]

Thanks for showing the internals. For the few differences I'd rather buy the less expensive model. Great review!

[@georgivoyvodov1123]

the key to better tire grip and better climbing abilities on micro crawlers is to get the center of gravity as low as possible. The easiest and most effective way is to install lead washers on the rims. I glue them with a two-component liquid polymer weld

[@TTJ.616]

youve absolutely CHANGED my life, thanks alot tom!

[@TomleyRC]

Awesome 😎👌

[@Georvanovic]

Thanks for the comparison man! I just bought the Patriot on Amazon for $80 👍🏼

[@corbinkleewein6915]

They are very similar but the only difference I’m not so sure I heard is the katana is waterproof while the patriot isn’t at all. Something to keep in mind when trailing these bad boys

[@mr.clownski23]

Please can you find out I really want this I can’t afford the glacier Chevy truck but this looks super nice

[@ozzyg82]

My Katana sounds the same, i.e. sounds broken 😂 A good point is you can turn the headlights on on the Katana and leave them on throughout, (rather than the Patriot’s lights only coming on when you press the throttle).

[@THYC]

Awesome comparison bro, lots of little differences. I'd much prefer going for a panda, they are so underrated! Love my K1 and X2T. Both waterproof with oil shocks and weighted wheels from the box. For me Panda have the best rigs in this category. Your grass needs cutting 😂

[@bigesrcs]

Same but I like having a variety!!

[@Drivingdrew719]

I almost got a panda but I ended up ordering a mini z 4 runner instead i wanted this katana too but maybe next time lol

[@TomleyRC]

Panda Hobby is the top dog (Panda)

[@Spoo76]

The Panda is ok on the trails, but the HobbyPlus CR-18 and the Katana it's based on have much nicer looking bodies, and parts that are MUCH easier to find replacements for, as well as Panda Hobby having, let's just say not great customer service. Then there's the fact the skid plate and axles get hung up on nearly every rock and obstacle compared to any of my other crawlers including the CR-18/Katana. Then there's the odd motor and transmission combination. A 180 motor is great! Most have 030 or 050, but then they ruined it with that afterthought of a transmission that's under geared and clearly designed for a 030 or 050 motor (that's why it has an adapter) The Panda does have the best performing oil shocks, however If you care about scale looks they are huge and not scale.

[@jvogler_art4708]

How do these compare to the fms 1:18 lc?

[@zingwarrior9835]

мне тоже интересно

[@TheHanf]

i got the EasyRc one, pretty pleased tbh....

[@donaldsneffe]

It come with 2 Lipos - and was named Patrion before, only now Patriot ;)

[@UpperLeftRC]

Been waiting for this thing since you teased it! About time you dropped this video lol 😄👍🏻

[@michaelchoate2810]

Fror your angles remember approach from the front and depart from the rear to keep them sorted

[@bigesrcs]

Nice comparison I think ima go with the patriot because the clearance!!

[@Steve-yu6pq]

Is the black mountain print on the patriot a sticker or painted on?

[@TomleyRC]

Stickers

[@maclainsxl]

What 1/18th scale crawlers have metal gears that I can swap the eazy rc Land Cruiser body on I put weighted wheels on the rc and the gears slip alotttt

[@nftiendaonline9732]

Excellent comparison, no need to spend more, I might get one

[@westcoastrider3008]

Can you compare the katana axels to the cr24 sold on banggood made by hobbyplus, im interested in what parts will go together, also the transmission and chassis mounts, frame widths.

[@TomleyRC]

I’ll have a look. I have the CR24 in the garage

[@westcoastrider3008]

@@TomleyRC thank you 😊

[@Spoo76]

The katana is basically a hard body HobbyPlus CR-18. Same axles, transmission, shocks, links, ect ect. The transmission is also the same as the CR-24. The axle centers, meaning the center housing and the gears are the same, but the knuckles/ rear lock outs, and of course axle shafts are longer on CR-18/katana/ and ATLAS 6x6 which is basically a CR-18 with a 3rd axle housings. The chasis is very similar to the HobbyPlus CR-18 but has a few different mounting holes for the body.

[@westcoastrider3008]

@@Spoo76 thank you for the details! I made a 6x6 cr24 out of 2 cr24's, by taking the input halfs of the front and rear axels together. All these mini crawlers with housings similar can do this too, or even be 8x8 or more.

[@SteppingR]

can u hold the cam 2 sec with no moving ?

[@TomleyRC]

Sometimes 😅

[@dudleyfoster1864]

Bought the Patriot on Amazon. Stopped working and on/off switch was broken. Sent back for replacement. After a few runs on new one, remote won’t. communicate with the car. Remote red light comes on, car headlights flash, but they don’t seem to sync up. Is there a way to redo the pairing?

[@hamizanrivoldiantoe2118]

would an upgraded wpl c24 be better than this?

[@tomdonato6814]

Can someone show me where you can get metal hop up parts... for the Eazyrc. Specifically the transmission and other parts that might break easily

[@bike-how-to-fahrradwerksta9921]

I think its not worth the difference. I like upgrading and i think i‘ll choose the cheaper one for me. Thanks for the comparison.

[@genericytaccount93]

Lol

[@jackd1582]

But ... longevity???????

[@cameroncasper5798]

Just ordered a patriot Where can I get parts to upgrade it?

[@TomleyRC]

Not sure on upgrades yet

[@Anupkulkarni23]

Hi all does anyone know how to rebind the tx and rx?. My patriot light turn on off ecerysecond. And the car is not responding to the transmitter. I put fresh battery in both car and remote. Is there any help please or it is turned into shelf queen status?

[@brianhawkins866]

I'm always a fanboy of cheaper rc cars like the eazy rc but my biggest concern when buying one like this is being able to find parts and upgrade parts,if I can find parts for it I'm always gonna buy the cheaper one, eather way it's gonna break wether it's cheap rc or expensive and I don't pay for sticker brands, I can always buy stickers

[@DaveyGa]

Would the hard body go on a CR-18 or Panda? I'm still waiting on your video of installing Panda oil shocks in a WPL C rig ;)

[@TomleyRC]

It should do with a little a few mods

[@DeliberateNRandom]

Would you buy this, or the SCX24? It's about $5 more for the Deadbolt. Actually, I saw the Deadbolt for $110 for the green one, last night.

[@TomleyRC]

SCX24 is slightly smaller.. but it’s the better truck for sure

[@Phil-kf6lt]

The Patriot be a good starter for crawling?

[@TortFreak]

Did you find wheel weights for them?

[@robcarter6599]

How about the turning radius?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, forgot about that. Servo positions are different, so may have an effect on the steering

[@need4drift]

Thanks for the very good comparison brother.

[@AnthonyGonzalez-lw1ek]

I don’t seem to see this in the states maybe under a different name? Any help

[@FullClipKilla]

The red one underneath looks a hell of a lot like my FTX outback 2.0 and that retails at £67ish.

[@TomleyRC]

The FTX trucks are good value

[@Smile-N-Bear]

I really fall'n hard for the 18th scale. Can you suggest any motor or other upgrades? Always a pleasure!🍻

[@lesabre1972]

All the katanas I have seen on here and othe videos the ESC has been noisy but the one I have here at home you can barely hear it.

[@saintsfisherman]

This is the only crawler that I have and it has broken. I can hear the motor running but the driveshafts are not moving at all. I assume the gears inside the transmission have been chewed up or some gears have come out of place. I haven't taken it apart yet but just wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem before I do. Is it worth trying to fix it or should I just save my money for my bigger 10 scale purchase next year? Also, if it is worth fixing, where do I find parts for this little thing? Any help would be much appreciated, if you have time. Thanks

[@DeliberateNRandom]

I have the HPI Racing FJ and it's great. I'm thinking about selling it and getting the TRX Sport, not that it's bad, but I would like better clearance and performance with rock crawling. My roommate has the Defender and the classic Bronco, another friend has the Mercedes TRX6. They're impressed for it being so small, and the controls are lighter, but I would like to be able to go places they can. The Sport is cheaper when new, and the FJ needs the steering servo upgraded. I bought mine new with extras and things done to it. Tires were a necessity.

[@acche-rc]

please review the eachine rochobby LC80 with proper Toyota license? thank you! :)

[@cenreaper3221]

Put a capacitor parallel to the motor to remove that buzzing sound.

[@justletitsliiide]

I wonder if you could swap the B36 180 and box in for better gearing? Or go all out and use WPL axles as well and bigger tyres like a comp truck 🤣👌

[@TomleyRC]

These are a lot smaller than the WPLs

[@mikusoxlongius]

Use lead (Pb) tape in tires, on wheels.

[@paulmcnamara16]

Doesn't look like there's very much between them so think would go by price as a deciding factor. But do like the white controller though! 😁👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, the biggest difference is the electronics

[@camrowdrone6497]

I will get the Wpl body version 👍🏻

[@gabrielpichardo1492]

You shoulda threw the wpl in that mix as well

[@TomleyRC]

They are quite a bit bigger

[@SRodriguezProduction]

Nice comparison

[@Jay-ws7tv]

Is that not the FMS FCX18?

[@lb7706]

Really glad I bought the EazyRC and not the Katana

[@ronkemp9528]

$240 on Amazon in Canada ?

[@lesabre1972]

I think the red looks a whole lot better also

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Bro I enjoyed every second of this video!! Very complete comparisson!! They are very interesting rcs, and both of them could be upgraded with the scale, just choice brands to fits them better parts !(axles, shcks,,,). I just have 1 easyrc!! Plastic gears mmm (overall katana)!! Have a great day Bro!

[@SergeyPRKL]

I just bought the white one. As a beginner what i feel is important, what reviewers forgets, is that these cars actually aren't a good choice for starting an offroading hobby. The sole reason to this is that they are so topheavy. I'd recommend a lexan chassi like the Hobbyplus if you really want to drive offroad. These scale models are... More like greatest scale toys ever :) Patriot was last week at Bangood for -50%. Great purchase.

[@jameshankssr466]

Not to mention that astro turf is slippery

[@MauzyrockRC]

Those little rigs look pretty good. Are parts available?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes should be

[@THEMASKEDMASTER]

✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿can you line those with scale egg boxes to make them quiet? Some off these small scale rc’s sound louder than 10 scale. Outrunner motors are the worse out of them all 😂. Those motor hurt my ears 😂

[@TomleyRC]

Haha... love a scale Egg now and again.

[@ClassicSteelRC]

Excellent video! Very descriptive!

[@Spoo76]

The Katana definitely has a 050 motor not a 180. 180's are noticably bigger. As far as which is better, that's subjective but if you're planning to get better electronics and don't mind not being able to get spare Axle or transmission parts get the patriot. If you want the ability to easily and cheaply find axle and transmission parts all over the world get the Katana. It's basically a hard body HobbyPlus CR-18, which has also been branded as the FTX 1/18, and uses the same transmission and axle gears as the HobbyPlus CR-24, and ATLAS 6x6 and the same axle gears as all the 1/24 RGT Adventurer/1/24 FTX Outbacks/ECX Barrage, and the Element Enduro24. IMO it's not true or accurate to say they are similar other than cost.. If anything the only thing similar is the body everything else is clearly different and those are the things that matter the most. Even if they perform the same the stock parts support available for the Katana is far far better

[@ianmangham4570]

Fuzzy Wuzzy was a women

[@RichValentine1972]

I just bought the wax rc Arizona was $139.99 USD.

[@imalhabliharahap1770]

This is waterproof?

[@MuhammadAmmarZafrieAdee]

bro, make '' is it the same ? patriot vs katana vs fms lc8o

[@horukuru]

If it get the Partriot, is it easy to waterproof the electronic?

[@thor_4017]

There's a video on KZbin where eazyrc Arizona esc/receiver is waterproofed with plasti dip. It doesn't look difficult.

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

You did another me video.... Lol Whats the difference in the bodies between these 2vand the wpl c54 ?? Looking forward to the trail video. Still want that texan mini !!!!

[@TomleyRC]

The C54 is a lot bigger. These look quite small next to it

[@brianhawkins866]

Don't waste your money on the patriot,I thought I made a good choice by saving money and buying the patriot and the diff gears stripped in the first 5 mins of play,so now I'm having to buy better axles for $40 and by this point if would been the same price as the other one and I wouldn't have a broke rib for 3 weeks waiting on parts

[@taliesinbourne7484]

So basically for a slightly nicer looking underbody and a few extra bits of detailing you pay £70 extra...? Nice 😂😂

[@Idkgoodnamehere]

The amount of time the patriot fell is just 😂

[@nunocahyo9938]

Love all of your videos, but that's all my dream, i could not buy one of those... Nice video bro Salam kenal dari jakarta

[@Wurstkommission]

I like my Toyota FJ Cruiser! 👏

[@shawnhampton2895]

The easiest way to remember about your angles is think about an airplane coming in for landing he's approaching the airport and he's descending he's leaving

[@jdm9984]

My birthday money is $30 so I will have to save up a lot to get into the hobby. Just watching for fun.

[@phildavis4878]

I noticed companies have been given getting a rid of the lexan I don't blame people for not buying election body the whole body cells last a long time they might cost a little more but they worth it

[@MiniMightyMike]

That it is a 050 motor, bought it because of this video saying it was a 180 😅

[@spf49]

Great vid

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting trucks, dude! 😃 Maybe it's a different company who builds it and decided to sell with their own name as well... Who knows. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, maybe 😎

[@TheNathan643]

Been waiting for this buddy... let me know if it’s not a keeper 😉😉😉😉

[@TomleyRC]

Haha...

[@ivanponce9658]

great Comparison

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Ivan

[@jasonice1584]

Gr8 content keep it going

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Jason

[@johnrenzcaballero4308]

IMO, The only diff for me was the chassis,waterproofing, and licensing. If someone can upgrade the patriot to metal chassis and waterproof it. The fms lc80 will be damn.

[@CarEnjoyer85]

I'm going to 3d print waterproofing if I buy it

[@matthewmann8951]

Bought both, patriot is just as good 70$ cheaper.?. Peace

[@huntermarshall460]

he sounds like the vampire from the IT crowd

[@RustyX2010]

The price skyrocketed to $180!

[@e3s-rc]

I like your RC

[@skdzgameplays2078]

ok, but the body is pretty low par. my naughty dragon landcrusier 80 looks so much better

[@jdsrcs8061]

Interesting. Same company as the atlas but different name.

[@Spoo76]

FMS (ATLAS) owns the brand RocHobby (Katana) but both are based on the HobbyPlus CR-18 ,which is based on the smaller CR-24 (same shocks, transmission, and axle centers. The HobbyPlus rigs are also sold under the FTX brand and "d1RC" and some other brand in germany I forget

[@sammyboswelldirtybrc7580]

The roc hobby is so loud easy for the win

[@ianmangham4570]

Deffo paying for the packaging

[@j.j.rcrawler8051]

Good thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rcpete7055]

Why are they so noisey? I don't like noisey RC's 🤔🙄🧡💙💪🇬🇧

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, a little annoying

[@PatrickBaptist]

Yuck they both have plastic diffs...

[@sagedidntthink]

EazyRc really clowning on other brands

[@THYC]

2nd! Watching now bro 🍻

[@TomleyRC]

Minicrawler Fanboy 😎

[@009ADVENTURES]

seems a no brainer to me bud , buy the white one 👍

[@riccardomassafaidatech]

Hi, nice tests! I've recently bought the EazyRc 1/18 Patriot, i've made a cinematic video of a snow/ice crawling course if you wanna check it out on my channel, really appreciate! This little RC car is great, but it really needs to lower the center of gravity because it tumbles really easily.

[@oneoffnate]

Cool video bro🔥

[@CheapCheerful]

Somebody is making a fat margin on the Katana.

[@wordreet]

Look after yourself dude. Once your back begins to feel a little more comfortable, do some mild yoga stuff and then progress to strengthening. I'm sure you're following Doc's advice.

[@jogarganera]

Rochobby Katana is still way better.

[@ezrabegin8234]

Yep rather have better quality

[@thor_4017]

Katana/cr18 axles are outdated. Patriot use the same axles as the newer fms/roc hobby lc80. Better drive shafts/axles. You can buy lc80 metal pinion/bevel gear upgrade for eazyrc patriot/Arizona axles. And it doesn't use the horrible dogbones driveshafts like cr18 axles. Cva front drive shafts are much better. Patriot pinion is also supported by 2 bushings. Cr18 axles has the toy grade 1 bushing support for the pinion. Katana axles may look more scale but the build quality is still more toy grade.