Why is Titanium Common But So Expensive?

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[@SF-fb6lv]

2:20: "If titanium wasn't so worth it, nobody would worry about separating these atoms - because it wouldn't be worth it; but titanium metal is so important, that it's well worth it." Classic - like some kind of haiku

[@alanwortman3594]

It made _me_ dumber.

[@Nick-ye5kk]

He's not wrong...

[@quisp1492]

The entire script sounds like it was written by an 11 year old who just found out about titanium and spent an afternoon watching KZbin videos about it.

[@sandersrk]

He's quoting Headboard Harris, our "beloved" VP.

[@thebenchdiy6046]

​@Nick yes he is lol🤣

[@taiwanluthiers]

That segment where the guy is grinding a metal with a grinder, is NOT titanium. Titanium produces very white, bright sparks when you hit it with a grinder. The color of the spark produced in that segment suggests some kind of alloy steel with medium carbon content or even mild steel.

[@michelguevara151]

just another crappy content farm channel

[@randydewees7338]

I bought an old tool box that some previous owner had added a hasp - secured by some diabolical tamper proof titanium bolts. Not drillable with the bits I had, many white sparks later I angle grindered them off.

[@cyb3r._.]

cool, but you should fact check yourself before you make a video (for example, stainless steel is technically stronger than titanium comparing pure tensile strength, but titanium is said to be stronger because it has a much higher strength to weight ratio)

[@LeonaPrime]

This video pains me. Probably just stress or something tbh, exacerbating my reaction. But at 1:02, that is just completely wrong, and they give no sources or justification. So it doesn't surprise me that there is more wrong than that. Source: Am a geologist. Also have a more detailed descriptor of what is wrong in its own comment I made minutes ago from this reply.

[@underskillednunderpaid]

​@Josie "if titanium wasn't so worth it, no one would worry about it. Because it wouldn't be worth it" lmao. This guy was trying to reach his character limit for the school project.

[@musicgrynd]

What's the current price of titanium per kg?

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

I saw somewhere they said it was just barely not as strong as steel so could we not slightly scale up the thickness and then have thicker titanium for les weight and thus stronger for the same weight?

[@cyb3r._.]

@@TheAnnoyingBoss it is much stronger for the same weight, that’s what a higher strength to weight ratio means

[@michaeltb1358]

The pure white titanium oxide is actually also made from TiCl4, reacted with pure oxygen at high temperatures.

[@SF-fb6lv]

Works at room temperature. I did it myself in high school.

[@Dudleymiddleton]

It's an interesting metal, the near lightness of Aluminium, but the near hardness of steel.

[@KathrynLiz1]

Yes... once an annealed bar has been heated to yellow-white heat it cools to a hardness that will take the teeth clean off a file...

[@piffe]

Please get a better script writer. I understand you’re trying and doing what you can with the resources you currently have, but the narrative sounds like it was written by someone who did this for a highschool project.

[@ovuvuevuevueenyetuenwuevue9325]

Take it ez man their first language is not english

[@Anteksanteri]

Sounds like it was AI written and then outsourced to a guy on fiver. Absolute garbage writing.

[@quisp1492]

I'd say it was pretty good for an 11 year old.

[@johndoyle4723]

Ilmenite is a very common Titanium ore, however the extraction of the metal involves some particularly brutal chemistry, yes it likes to hang on to the oxygen.refining can be very problematic for the environment. Plenty of scrap Migs about.

[@Trucmuch]

1:38 29% of the Titanium we use today all of it comes from China. So... all of the Titanium that comes from China comes from China. That's impressive!

[@stevenewton7787]

Bob Ross' favourite colour "Titanium Hhhhh'white"

[@randydewees7338]

I came for the titanium, but I stayed for the narration, it was Worth It!

[@KathrynLiz1]

We once shod a horse with titanium shoes that we forged.... it needed a wide shoe for protection but could not carry the weight of steel shoes. They worked really well and were very hard wearing. This was about 25 years ago and the metal for each shoe cost around $80NZ.... not a cheap job... but very very successful for the horse if not for its owner's pocket... :-)

[@ProdigalPorcupine]

"We once sod a horse" - I'd keep that to yourself! 🤣

[@robertwilliamson922]

…..”shod….”

[@flamencoprof]

I'm pleased to say I wear a titanium ring. People are always intrigued when I take it off and drop it on their palm. They are used to the weight of "precious" metals.

[@MrPleers]

Titanium is not harder than steel. In fact a watch made out of titanium is usually a scratch magnet compared to steel. And needs a special coating to prevent it.

[@samuellourenco1050]

Zinc oxide is a cheaper pigment, but it is not as opaque as titanium dioxide.

[@scottprather5645]

Also toxic....titanium dioxide is non-toxic

[@josepharchuleta9809]

One down side is that titanium is not good with reverberations so it won’t make a good replacement for steel in all aspects

[@DnvGoodwin555]

Fun fact. Titanium for SR-71 was made in USSR

[@MillionYearProgram42]

Not really. The rutile came from the Soviet Union. The Kroll process to refine the titanium metal was done here, iirc.

[@jacksparro3150]

Pure titanium is not strong. It is a hard metal but very brittle. Hard does not equate to strong. To make titanium useful for extreme application it has to be alloyed with aluminum. Titanium aluminide is the material used for extreme applications. So we should give some credit to Aluminum as well.

[@richardrose2606]

Thank you for this information. All during this video I was wondering what other elements titanium could be alloyed with.

[@funnyyellowdog8833]

Class 2 Titanium (99.3%) is already comparable to good construction steel

[@user-yl7yh3qd4x]

Stop spreading lies. grade 1 commercially pure Titanium is very ductile and retain very high toughness similar to 304L stainless steel even in liquid Helium temperature (−452°F = −269°C ) !!

[@MillionYearProgram42]

Never heard of "titanium aluminide," but maybe you mean that most commonly, titanium is alloyed with aluminum and vanadium (TiAl6V). Edit: Vanadium specifically because titanium really isn't that hard. It's strong, but pretty soft.

[@timkahn2813]

my new knee costs less then weed .

[@hildablanco1591]

Its also used in yachts shafts and propellers

[@MrMisanthrope1RBjr]

my 2004 corvette z06 has a titanium exhaust, the C5 z06 was the first mass produced car to have a titanium exhaust, it was done to save weight. It was 20lbs lighter than the steel exhaust. The C5 z06 also was the first mass produced car to have a carbon fiber part, the hood , It was also the first mass production car to have the HUD display thing, projected on the windsheild. never have to take your eyes off the road, . great saftey feature.

[@daniellawson8702]

Japan has invented two nee methods for titanium production that involves laser and I think plasma that when perfected and scaled up will make titanium production from mining to finished product cheaper than steel

[@lalazmland9432]

It's also used for dental implants

[@user-tx6xc9fi1i]

if titanium wasnt so wOrth it, nobody would worry about separating these atoms because it wouldnt be W0rtH it, but titanium metal is so important that its well w0rTh it. ._.

[@draconicargus415]

I thought the strongest metal was Tungsten?

[@corrinflakes9659]

In certain aspects like heat resistance, yes.

[@joonaskekoni2867]

Titanium is 40% steel weight. Tungsten in 210%.

[@andypilotttt]

Titanium is used in the sr71 because it withstands heat. It is about 20 percent weaker than heat treated aluminum. It's used in sports equipment because people are not very smart,

[@bjorn1583]

anyone that says titanium is the strongest metal on earth doesnt have a clue about metals

[@Dudleymiddleton]

I remember in the early 90's honda vfr 750 motorcycles used in the Isle of Man TT races had titanium nuts and bolts and washers to shave off a few grammes!

[@Dudleymiddleton]

these bikes were capable of 192 mph.

[@santaclose2826]

"Some people believe it is the strongest metal on earth!" duh, some people believe the earth is flat 10/10 information

[@robertbarnett7929]

When we built the SR-71 we bought the titanium from Russia using shell companies Also learning how machine it was challenge But they solved that.

[@kennethkennething4495]

the should have ask the Russians for help

[@MillionYearProgram42]

Everything about the SR71 is just so damn cool.

[@natsirt9809]

Pure Titanium is actually very brittle. When people think of titanium as the strongest metal that’s because titanium alloys such as titanium carbide are much less brittle making the metal very strong. It is also why getting this metal alloy is so expensive.

[@judgeomega]

google tells me scrap titanium is 35 CENTS per pound while commercial titanium is $7.50 per kg.

[@fsolder3510]

Your videos are very informative and beautiful...

[@KozmicKami]

I'm here for the adamantium.

[@fra93ilgrande]

X-men entered the chat 😂😂😂😂😂

[@SoltanMahmod-ch1vw]

So much people are wrong about titanium titanium is not stronger it's harder than any metal.

[@sinjinadams2862]

How about Titanium watches. It's my favorite watch material. Especially grade 5.

[@airfriedquadsbw]

I made a good living forb20 years selling TiO2 into paint companies(coatings) and plastics. It was 1 dollar a lb in the early 90s, and 4 dollars a lb by 2009.

[@jaffaji]

How about titanium carbide tip in lathe machines?

[@ashrafshadid5870]

Some parts on the aircraft fuselage made of titanium and special fasteners as well

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

You do not use titanium for fuselages, because aluminium is still lighter by volume than titanium (and carbon fiber is even lighter and stronger). In the aircraft industry you mostly use titanium for tubing and shafts - parts that need to be lightweight but strong and would be too heavy if made out of steel.

[@jamesbarrett5226]

Comparing prices based on weight is not the most accurate representation of price difference. Because of the weight differences, I personally feel a more accurate representation of value would be measured in volume. 🤷‍♂️

[@jacobmiller6189]

There are plenty of alloy steels far stronger and harder than ti they just weigh a lot more. Ti might have best strength to weight ratio

[@MrPleers]

Exactly that. Wear a steel watch for year and a titanium one for another. And then compare the scratches. There is a reason why titanium watches usually have a special coating over the titanium.

[@MillionYearProgram42]

This. Highest strength per pound? Yeah, prolly. Highest strength overall? No.

[@gabedaxe477]

I remember 911 the day the two #titanium engines melted and never were found according to the pentagon

[@PhilPriscu]

My father John C Priscu Sr worked at Timet in Henderson Nevada over 30 years.Metalurgist,Chemical Engineer,has 8 US patent on developing pure titanium

[@Billy_Bad_Ass]

"Some people say"????? Don't they KNOW?????

[@Bianchi77]

Nice video, thanks for sharing it :)

[@JustChillin740]

Wow there is also so much Gold😮😢

[@rogerpha1398]

5:48 Its actually the A12 Oxcart, because it was a single seater instead of two.

[@dymos7750]

meanwhile: watches the video on the iphone 15 pro max

[@jacoblahr]

Very informative and interesting video. I learned a lot about titanium thank you 👍

[@MillionYearProgram42]

You learned a lot of incorrect things about titanium... May I suggest Real Engineering's video on titanium. Much more accurate, and better presented.

[@ALONNEE88]

Thanks ♥️

[@ruperterskin2117]

Cool. Thanks for sharing.

[@ronblack7870]

steel alloy bolts are stronger than titanium bolts. so it's not the strongest metal. steel alloys are stronger but of course heavier.

[@ambatakam44]

X-43 is faster than sr-71, X-43 is can do 11.000 km/h

[@homieboi5352]

Brooo, didn’t you say titanium is 40%-60% lighter than steel? And then compared cost per kilogram? You gotta compare price per volume because that’s the actual equivalent in material usage you’re working with. If we round the weight difference to 50% and the cost difference to 200x more per kilogram, we’re actually looking at a 100x difference in cost. Still high, but half what you suggested.

[@TIMEtoRIDE900]

However - since you would need even MORE Titanium for the strength of a given part, the difference might be that other 50%.

[@absolute___zero]

I don't know abou titanium, but everybody in my country is crazy about aluminium, it costs 10 to 20 dollars per kilo in finished materials, and 2 dollars in scrap. I bet it is more difficult to extract aluminium from alumina than titanium from titanium oxide

[@andie_pants]

Imagine if we ever get working fusion energy. Titanium would become cheap to produce and make the world SO MUCH BETTER!

[@phizaics]

how exactly would fusion energy help in the production of titanium?

[@koruki]

Works now. Waiting for cheap titanium

[@damonedrington3453]

@@phizaics the biggest limiting factor of titanium is how much it costs to separate, which has to do with how much energy it takes. If we were able to master fusion, energy, energy would essentially be free (in the sense of supply being unlimited FAIAP) and therefor cut out the single greatest cost

[@edschultheis9537]

In the mid-1800s aluminum was more valuable than gold. Napoléon III's most important guests were given aluminum cutlery, while those less worthy dined with mere silver; fashionable and wealthy women wore jewelry crafted of aluminum. [Reference Science History Institute] Charles Martin Hall (December 6, 1863 - December 27, 1914) was an American inventor, businessman, and chemist. He is best known for his invention in 1886 of an inexpensive method for producing aluminum, which became the first metal to attain widespread use since the prehistoric discovery of iron. [Reference Wikipedia]

[@sammy5576]

That's something I'm excited about, also reminds me of a saying where people call aluminium "congealed electricity" because of the manufacturing process.

[@RayGentile]

The table shown around 1:00 minute mark is sort of strange, why not have some other graphical representation, because Titanium seems to be a similar size Gold, Silver Platinum.

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

That table was probably used to show how plenty the elements are on earth (the bigger the symbol, the more plenty). That would also explain the weird shape. They should have spent a few seconds to tell the viewers about that.

[@TIMEtoRIDE900]

@@einundsiebenziger5488 And it seems to be just the crust, as much of the "Mantle" would be Silicon and the "Core" is Iron with Nickel and other heavy metals.

[@anon_y_mousse]

If Elon Musk said that about titanium, then he's wrong. It's far more likely that an ancient civilization, if one existed and became sufficiently advanced technologically speaking, that they would want to use more biodegradable materials. For instance, one could produce a biodegradable plastic with which to infuse carbon fibers and make a "good enough" material for all manner of applications. It would be really light and plenty strong for most purposes. And corrosion resistant doesn't mean it won't corrode, it'll just take longer. If an ancient civilization existed more than 10,000 years ago, any titanium they used would have oxidated long ago just as iron and any iron based alloys would have. If an alien civilization existed, they might have shield technology to augment weaker materials being used for ships to allow for easier construction. My weird recommendation, go watch the movie Explorers.

[@paparoysworkshop]

A simple proof that there never was an ancient civilization is because there is no evidence in any fossil record. Sure, even titanium would eventually oxidize in time, but if a simple bone can be fossilized, then metals and plastics would have also left an imprint of some kind.

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@paparoysworkshop Metals and plastics wouldn't fossilize, so there's no imprint to be left which wouldn't be erased with time. Further, we haven't dug everywhere or potentially deep enough anywhere to find any imprints that might exist. An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[@paparoysworkshop]

@@anon_y_mousse No, they don't fossilize. But they would leave imprints similar to how bones fossilize. And you don't need to dig "deep enough". The ground constantly moves and such impressions would rise to the surface just like fossils do. The saying, "an absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", is a copout when someone can't support their opinion. There has never been an advanced ancient civilization on this planet. Out is space, we'll never know until we can get there.

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@paparoysworkshop You can't support your opinion. There's no proof that a buried chunk of titanium would leave any such imprints. There's no proof that an advanced civilization would use titanium. Even after just a few thousand years, metal implements have corroded to the point of barely being recognizable, so after significant amounts of time more than that, there's no way there'll be evidence that they existed. Prove that wrong or stop copping out.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Youre crazy.

[@rcinematic]

Here trying to research where it’s from and if kids are used to dig it up for iPhones

[@jgedutis]

Titanium is an element

[@juicejuice5013]

Ti is the future soon everything will be made with Ti give it 15 years

[@Grqphx]

4090 Ti is why this was recommended.

[@JHMCD1094]

And iron man made 51 suits made of gold titanium alloy Bruh

[@LeonaPrime]

1:02 That figure is just wrong. Even if you meant just in the crust. Flat out misinformation. At least, it seems like it the way you presented it. By weight, which is the most favorable for you, i.e. least wrong against what you claimed, oxygen is 46.3% abundant, silicon is 28.0%, aluminum is 8.1%, iron is 5.5%, calcium is 3.4%, magnesium is 2.8%, sodium is 2.4%, potassium is 2.3%, and all others are 1.2% abundant by weight. Source: Figure 2.15, Page 57, Stephen Marshak; Earth: Portrait of a Planet, 6th Edition.

[@andrewdking]

My custom made motorcycle lift has solid titanium wheels on each corner. For no other reason than because the machinist could 😮😊

[@andrewdking]

@@matthewkuhl79 Stop speed reading 🙄. It says Motorcycle Lift. Fatboys are rather low, and a mate designed and fabricated a lift which goes flat to the deck. I then finished it off at work. A machinist mate at work made the new wheels from leftover Ta bar stock he just happened to have lying around. I didn't like the rust prone cast steel wheels from the doner Trolley Jack the hydraulic piston system was taken from, so asked him to make something more rustproof. I'm not complaining he decided to make something really really special.

[@andrewdking]

@@matthewkuhl79 I'll let you off 😄

[@DavidGalloway]

A metal oxide is still a metal.

[@MillionYearProgram42]

No. It's a salt, technically speaking. Metal+nonmetal.

[@johndevine6687]

At $500 a ton, that is cheap for the money. Comparatively, cooper, at $7000, by metrics, is somewhat costly…

[@raddastronaut]

Without watching this yet… extraction. It’s not hard to extract but pure isolation is very tedious and laborious task. After watching, not bad coverage, because yeah the extraction labs in Germany like to keep it a secret.

[@danfreeman9079]

SR-71 Blackbird Titanium RIngs

[@tomp23cz44]

Did you know that there was an even faster manned aircraft that also used titanium? It's called the X-15, look it up.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

He said fastest plane, the X-15 was more of a research aircraft/rocket than a plane as it had to be airlifted to a certain altitude by a mother plane.

[@tomp23cz44]

@@anthonyxuereb792Fun fact it's still a plane even if it's air-launched and even though it's rocket powered it's still a plane since it has wings, rockets don't have wings, only fins.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

@@tomp23cz44 They look more like fins than wings on the X-15, you certainly cannot manoeuvre like a plane.

[@tomp23cz44]

@@anthonyxuereb792 They may be small but they're there for the lift, rocket fins are there only for stabilization not for lift thus they're wings not fins + they're small to reduce drag and also to fit under the B-52.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

@@tomp23cz44 good grief man if you want to believe it's a plane please do.

[@james112680]

Hey bro, I like what you’re trying to do here, but I would be happy to look over your scripts before you do your voiceovers. You could use a little bit of tweaking man.

[@rezaesmaili10]

Very interesting

[@husseinhijazi1787]

It's funny I searched this video because of the quote from elon. Haha good to see he speaks the truth

[@fra93ilgrande]

Ho appena scoperto che Il pacco pignoni Shimano XTR 12 velocità da mtb ha 5 pignoni in titanio, Figo!

[@terrillcrookshank4363]

🩷🩵=Pure Titanium

[@terrillcrookshank4363]

111⁴²

[@aneeshtvbabu]

watching after read iPhone15 made by Titanium.

[@abrbo9609]

wow I didn't know that 😮

[@HiTechDiver]

Referring to the elements chart @ time 1:20, how is there more Oxygen than Hydrogen or Nitrogen if the two most plentiful things on earth are air and water, with air being roughly 79% Nitrogen, and 21% Oxygen, and water being H2O.? Not trolling; genuinely curious.

[@TIMEtoRIDE900]

Earth's Mantle is Silicon Dioxide.

[@mcanderson0]

You cant take steel prices bulk wholesale and compare to amazon sourced Titanium. Thats dumb

[@9an13l]

Isn't depleted uranium kind of a stronger metal?

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

It's dense but not strong. Plus, it's radioactive and therefore not useful in most products titanium is used for.

[@richardrose2606]

Depleted uranium is used as armour for tanks because of it's density.

[@levyoliver5363]

I think Titanium are perfect for automotive bodies. Because it does not rust.."

[@am3835]

Iphone 15?

[@numberpirate]

Titanium is the strongest metal...... Molybdenum says: Have you heard of kinetic impactors?!?!?!?!

[@robertwilliamson922]

I love Titanium. I have Titanium eye glasses frames, Titanium belt buckles, Titanium chains and snap rings, Titanium pill cases, Titanium split rings, Titanium carabiners, …….and a one pound bar of .999 pure Titanium for an interesting paper weight. 😊

[@sinjinadams2862]

How about Titanium watches! It's my favorite watch material. I own eight of them.

[@robertwilliamson922]

@@sinjinadams2862 I only have two Casio “Royale” AE1200 watches, with 10 year battery life and NATO G-10 watch straps with widening adapters. I also bought watch face screen protectors for them. I use them for travel in the world. (Bought the second for a spare.) I have lots of titanium things for sure. I love that metal. But my two watches are not titanium.

[@rickrussell579]

"If titanium wasn't so worth it, no body would make it if it wasn't so worth it, but because it's important, it's worth it." What a meathook abortion of a sentence.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

A classic application or Floor is made of floor

[@mmark8394]

America speak

[@warped2875]

He must have picked up that phraseology/word-salad style from Kamala Harris, with her, "...talking about the significance of the passage of time right. The significance of the passage of time, so when you think about it there is great significance to passage of time. There is such great significance to the passage of time..."

[@jamesburns8247]

For 25 years I've had two knee and one hip implant made of titanium and beryllium steel parts and they don't feel no pain Thank God !!

[@anthonyxuereb792]

Thank God! You can say that again!!

[@fengutheface]

Best cannabis pipe material....

[@515161]

There's other properties that make iron preferable over titanium.

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

There are* other properties ...

[@wallrent2336]

tungsten is the strongest

[@shaynegadsden]

Sorry that is wrong "strongest" is such a broad statement that it isn't even close to true i mean i might not be able to easily cut it and that would be considered strong but i can smash to pieces with a cheap hammer that would be considered weak

[@next4978]

Don’t forgot to add titanium is used iphone 15 as well 😂

[@a.k1102]

Yeah $10 dollars worth 😂

[@MillionYearProgram42]

Marketing!

[@zanamajidi9670]

Vehry good

[@yzzxxvv]

Amazing

[@eliasismaili7282]

iPhone 15 is the Ternium😂

[@ChadLuciano]

Titanium oxide is a compound element...the beginning of your video you state that Ti is made from Ti3O5...Ti is Ti.

[@goodnews7804]

Thank you, OnTen, I always learn something new and interesting, perfect ❤❤😘😘👌👌👏👏

[@robertgarcia1853]

All you forgot to mention was who made Titanium into metal. Who actually owned the patents. And that it was done in Las Vegas, NV. By a real metalurgist engineer. And what would never have happened, if he did not? Titanium is more American Innovation, allowed. The inventors name is John Priscu. Research further.

[@arash491]

Excellent 👍

[@fullonaudio]

SR 71 isn't the fastest. It's predecessor the a12 was faster

[@gnorts_mr_alien]

Lots of medicines use titanium dioxide as an ingredient as well no?

[@StarrDust0]

Well done vid, but you need to improve your writing. I don't believe in any gods, but all I can say is that we humans are extremely blessed by having a planet which such incredible resources...fuels, metals, medicines, etc. We should devote ourselves to being at least a 2 planet species if not more.

[@alammd4673]

😍😍