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Why Isn't It Worth It To Buy Aftermath? A Magic: The Gathering Product Review

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Tolarian Community College

Tolarian Community College

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege Жыл бұрын
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@W4llh4k
@W4llh4k Жыл бұрын
Prof, where are the meaningful reprints for ixalan cards that are staples of commander?, inmortal sun, zacama. Wotc has watered down reprint sets enough that a meaningful reprint is less meaningful than before
@Greg501-
@Greg501- Жыл бұрын
Intro: Why MAT was dead on arrival Rest of the video: Why MAT deserves to be dead on arrival
@W4llh4k
@W4llh4k Жыл бұрын
@@Greg501- I think it actually doesn't deserve to be a dead set, but it is also kinda overpriced, in spite of having 5 cards, none are common, but full price is too much, 3-4 wouldnhave sufficed
@slaytronic
@slaytronic Жыл бұрын
i dunno i play arena and i bought 100 bucks worth of aftermath got 4 of every card but 5-6 and there are a lot of fun cards in this set also helped me collect a bunch of march of the machines because those cards are inside the same packs and also filled my vault 80% so i cashed it in and got another 27% towards the next fill up it also gave me 20 mythic wild cards 30 rare 35 uncommon and 40 common totally worth it on arena and i did get a few rare dupes which turned into gems that i used on more packs from march of the machines i would say at least for arena totally worth it
@Greg501-
@Greg501- Жыл бұрын
@@slaytronic Arena did it right
@wmf92
@wmf92 Жыл бұрын
*Lists good reasons to not buy Afternath* Prof: But wait, there's more!
@apjapki
@apjapki Жыл бұрын
I hope that the Pinkertons are mentioned as a downside of every product from here to eternity.
@wallmartdragonlink2513
@wallmartdragonlink2513 Жыл бұрын
i second that,this needs to become the headphone jack of card games
@Akromathia
@Akromathia Жыл бұрын
So shall it be...
@martianmilfhunter6229
@martianmilfhunter6229 Жыл бұрын
John Marston would agree.
@peeporiot9948
@peeporiot9948 Жыл бұрын
I nope not, and not becuase I want anyone to forgive or forget the incident, but because it has already become a worn-out lazy comment.
@seasnek7024
@seasnek7024 Жыл бұрын
That and fake cards for $999
@brannontirin
@brannontirin Жыл бұрын
You know what’s funny? For once, Arena gets more cards in a pack than IRL players.
@a.velderrain8849
@a.velderrain8849 Жыл бұрын
And in those packs, you get more cards from MOM than Aftermath...
@pascalsimioli6777
@pascalsimioli6777 Жыл бұрын
They could give you a million card pack on Arena and you'd still be getting 0 cards cause those cards aren't real. Once the game shuts down you've spent real money for nothing. Once magic shuts down you can still play it with real cards.
@a.velderrain8849
@a.velderrain8849 Жыл бұрын
@@pascalsimioli6777 It's a game bro, just let people play what they want.
@AbystomaMexicanium
@AbystomaMexicanium Жыл бұрын
@@pascalsimioli6777 I've never spent real money on Arena, so that's that.
@typerez8132
@typerez8132 Жыл бұрын
​@Pascal Simioli why don't you play with some bitches 🤦🏾‍♂️
@bc6292
@bc6292 Жыл бұрын
That Tolarian Contempt 😂
@HakureiIllusion
@HakureiIllusion Жыл бұрын
Imagine THIS being the set you call in the Pinkertons over
@billdoetsch
@billdoetsch Жыл бұрын
Well, if the product had been exciting then a leak doesn't really do much - in fact might create more hype. However, when the product is garbage, that's when it's necessary to hold information close to the chest so that it's too late for purchasers to back out. The issue here was that the leaks lead to a great deal of cancellations and price drops. People saw the guy opening copies on copies of the same cards and were like, 'no thanks'. That's what WOTC tried to bottle up.
@releasethedogs
@releasethedogs Жыл бұрын
It makes complete sense. WotC KNEW it was a stinker and they guy showed how much of a stinker it was in time for everyone to cancel their preorders. It cost them a lot of money.
@Boyzby
@Boyzby 2 ай бұрын
Imagine sending Pinkertons over some cardboard at all.
@skoogebluge
@skoogebluge Жыл бұрын
Anyone else want to talk about those 3 deifications in one pack??? Is the algorithm that puts cards in packs just getting lazy? What in the FRESH HECK
@one-barwarlord8280
@one-barwarlord8280 Жыл бұрын
1 of every version to, I had a good laugh at that
@chespin3910
@chespin3910 Жыл бұрын
i finished reading this comment and scrolled back up to the video, just as prof laid out all the deifications
@lucasgarciaramos4035
@lucasgarciaramos4035 Жыл бұрын
Truly a pack blessed by god
@Salary-Barbarian
@Salary-Barbarian Жыл бұрын
lmao i was like "wow a 5 card, $20 booster and he pulled 2 copies of a middling rare..." then he pulled the third and I just started laughing
@Welverin
@Welverin Жыл бұрын
My suspicion for things like that is when there slots for different treatments the collation is close enough they line up a fair amount and you end with duplicates of the same card in a pack. Great if it's something good depressing when it sucks.
@ro9ue
@ro9ue Жыл бұрын
7:40 The placement of the Tolarian Contempt dead center is poetic.
@FireShadow1560
@FireShadow1560 Жыл бұрын
The decline of WotC is like hearing worse and and worse news about an old friend struggling with an addiction.
@mythoughtsonblank5769
@mythoughtsonblank5769 Жыл бұрын
I think you put it best
@ginov.7039
@ginov.7039 Жыл бұрын
💯 been playing this game from nearly the beginning.
@draketheduelist
@draketheduelist Жыл бұрын
And to think WotC isn't even the worst. I'm _never_ gonna' forgive Games Workshop for that "let's treat all our most longtime players like racist three-year-olds and throw them under the bus for social media clout" stunt.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
For some of us, it's worse; someone we're codependent with that's breaking down.
@jimmysmith2249
@jimmysmith2249 Жыл бұрын
​@@draketheduelist When did that happen? When they told the entire community that being racist is not ok? Oh no, racists were offended!
@Radiodragonofdoom
@Radiodragonofdoom Жыл бұрын
Man you know it's been a wild ride when Prof. starts out the video with "Okay listen I know this sucks for like 6 other reasons but I only have time to get into one of them here."
@mr.mobboss1190
@mr.mobboss1190 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, paper brawl isn't real, it can't harm you. Lol I died
@dudemcfurgusson7179
@dudemcfurgusson7179 Жыл бұрын
It's right up there with "Rhinos are free. Games Workshop doesn't want you to know this." in terms of content creator one liners.
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez Жыл бұрын
I miss paper Brawl :(
@narkfly
@narkfly Жыл бұрын
Besides that one episode of the Command Zone, who ever played paper Brawl?
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez Жыл бұрын
@@narkfly:((((
@Phavahg
@Phavahg Жыл бұрын
@@amberhernandez my play group used the packs from this new set with all the commons from the previous set to draft a Brawl deck. We had a blast and it was a very even fight down to the last turn.
@twentypandora96
@twentypandora96 Жыл бұрын
After what Wizards of the Coast did in regards to the Pinkertons, I have no interest in purchasing any future products, ever.
@bobdole8830
@bobdole8830 Жыл бұрын
You'll cave in at some point
@JD-wu5pf
@JD-wu5pf Жыл бұрын
Nah, it's pretty easy to stay away. Wizards is making it easier and easier to not care about this game.
@ginov.7039
@ginov.7039 Жыл бұрын
There's been plenty of cards printed in its history to continue playing. I hate this company so much I hope they go broke!
@boblemedieval
@boblemedieval Жыл бұрын
​@@bobdole8830 Command+P
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 Жыл бұрын
@@bobdole8830 if one does not want to support WotC or/and simply keep up with the barrage of new products, there are 30 years of cards available that can make it for endless possibilities of game scenarios.
@Kalyzery
@Kalyzery Жыл бұрын
Normally I dislike beating a joke to death, but I hope until the end of time we will continue to see Pinkerton references every time wotc tries to market a new product
@janelantestaverde2018
@janelantestaverde2018 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, it's not even a joke
@kevinclark3872
@kevinclark3872 Жыл бұрын
What about it is a joke? It was an egregious act that should had never happened and WOTC deserves to be reminded about it at every turn.
@Gooman130
@Gooman130 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinclark3872 Doesn't matter one bit, if we all keep buying their products.
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 Жыл бұрын
Certainly at least any time a nothingburger of a product like THIS is flipped.
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Жыл бұрын
Perhaps if so many people didn't treat it like a joke and actually treated it like a serious incident then I'd take it more seriously.
@underscore_5450
@underscore_5450 Жыл бұрын
I really love the spellbook idea. We could've gotten the new cards themed around a plan, maybe a new or reprinted plancha card, and maybe some other reprints from that plane with new treatments. That would've been a product I'd be interested in.
@owlbusdumbledork9966
@owlbusdumbledork9966 Жыл бұрын
Remember when they first created mythic rarity and promised "oh, this isn't a way to create chase cards that are necessary for competitive constructed play, mythic is just where we showcase the most epic, most unique, but not necessarily the best cards? And it was actually true for a while? Lol.
@Stinkoman87
@Stinkoman87 Жыл бұрын
The first time I remember that clearly not being true was Lotus Cobra. A very boring but incredibly useful mana dork.
@wolfdwarf
@wolfdwarf Жыл бұрын
Now rare is just uncommon :(
@TheGoonhole
@TheGoonhole Жыл бұрын
Me neither
@malakimphoros2164
@malakimphoros2164 Жыл бұрын
@@Stinkoman87 Goyf reprints maybe?
@cax1175
@cax1175 Жыл бұрын
Yugioh has 5 card booster packs on occasion, but they're all foil and the same price as the standard pack. And full of reprints. Not $16 like the Aftermath collector booster pack. With cards that should have been in the main set of March of the Machine.
@Gzilla313
@Gzilla313 Жыл бұрын
I like to play MtG more, but I like YGO's product way more. Wizards floods the market with so many products that it's inaccessible, so the best thing is to get singles. YGO has $12 precons compared with MtG's $50+ Commander decks.
@anthonywolf943
@anthonywolf943 Жыл бұрын
I hear all the monies wrapped up in the first edition anyways.
@kadavercade3597
@kadavercade3597 Жыл бұрын
What about Vanguard? Heard they're also doing okay?
@DroppedMyMarbles
@DroppedMyMarbles Жыл бұрын
@@Gzilla313 And frequently the Structure Decks are filled with reprints worth at least the structure deck's price, and cool new cards to brew with.
@Gzilla313
@Gzilla313 Жыл бұрын
@@DroppedMyMarbles people were getting 3 copies of the Salamangreat structure deck and winning tournaments. No one is winning locals with a Magic Precon.
@chrisdixon7377
@chrisdixon7377 Жыл бұрын
Wotc needs to be punished over the pinkerton incident. Whoever came up with that idea needs to be fired.
@jacobnordquist3448
@jacobnordquist3448 Жыл бұрын
They have ex-pinkertons that hold high up positions at wotc so I'd guess those people
@threadmiser4914
@threadmiser4914 Жыл бұрын
That would likely be either the WotC security head or the Hasbro Securities lead- both of whom worked for the Pinkertons or their parent company previously.
@Thanatos6669
@Thanatos6669 Жыл бұрын
no they dont
@woody72691
@woody72691 Жыл бұрын
So some random jackass should go and spoil a set that's nit even spoiled yet with no repercussions?
@TransformersBoss
@TransformersBoss Жыл бұрын
There will be no accountability. How many stupid decisions have come out of WOTC at this point, and nobody has been fired?!
@wvanhuss4190
@wvanhuss4190 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say i lost all respect for Wizards of the Coast and Hasbro. Greed has led them to do all the things he listed. They stopped caring about players completely and only care about their bottom dollar. I still love the game of magic but i despise the corporation that created this greed
@ginov.7039
@ginov.7039 Жыл бұрын
💯
@Dornogol
@Dornogol Жыл бұрын
Luckily printing cards is cheap and as long as you don't want to go to their official tournaments, proxies are fun in always testing new funny decks
@kadavercade3597
@kadavercade3597 Жыл бұрын
​@@Dornogol or going at the bottom and getting hq counterfeits and competing.
@bladezxc
@bladezxc Жыл бұрын
How did it take this long for you to lose respect for them? Remember the Magic 30th Anniversary 1000 dollar proxy packs?
@ginov.7039
@ginov.7039 Жыл бұрын
@@bladezxc just keep holding out, thinking they' will do the right thing. Never happens.
@Gzilla313
@Gzilla313 Жыл бұрын
Some people say "this meeting should have been an email," but this set should have been a Secret Lair with only the story important cards.
@Chocolate83Bunny
@Chocolate83Bunny Жыл бұрын
Ok that plane package idea sounds amazing. It would be such a tight and unique product. Obviously could have a planechase card in it. Such a better execution of the """story"""
@anthonywolf943
@anthonywolf943 Жыл бұрын
A little piece of History here, I used to love just opening magic cards with my friends when I was younger, and we all pitch in for a dragon's maze box. We opened it together and it was one of the most boring lackluster terrible experience week cards in a small set, you've never experienced this, we literally stopped buying boxes of magic cards after that. it's been how many years??? Just recently started buying collector booster boxes. Then Aftermath came out and I'm feeling like this is another moment where I walk away again. The secondary market is just better, but soon eBay will ruin that for us as well and I will have to find a new platform.
@RayneOfSalt
@RayneOfSalt Жыл бұрын
We had a similar thing back in the olden days with Fallen Empires, The Dark and Homelands.
@SiymPai
@SiymPai Жыл бұрын
First mistake is buying collectors. My play group all stopped buying product when collector packs came out. Whats the point when nothing is special anymore. Hope you and your playgroup find some enjoyment. We found it by buying singles and staying away from bloated crap like this video speaks about.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht Жыл бұрын
@@SiymPai Collectors' is especially risky since the foil quality is still hit or miss after all these years of us complaining about it. Bought a pretty gift bundle recently, the collector booster inside was already warped before I even opened it. Since the rare was worthless anyway, I binned the whole pack.
@JoeyDCote
@JoeyDCote Жыл бұрын
@@RayneOfSalt Ayup, those sets were terrible. Lots of bad cards and ugly art.
@AxisAmazing
@AxisAmazing Жыл бұрын
wild that you pulled three diefication in that sample pack. Really highlights how much of a gamble these packs are to crack. Definitely looking at singles for this set
@ubergusterfan1
@ubergusterfan1 Жыл бұрын
Prof, that is easily the best tie you have worn and that wide knot is fantastic.
@TRsCorner
@TRsCorner Жыл бұрын
Huh. There's a card called 'Tolarian Contempt' seen in the first Collector Booster opened. Is WotC taking a dig at The Professor for speaking truth to power?
@nuclearphish8051
@nuclearphish8051 Жыл бұрын
While that would be a rather immature way of handling it, it would also be kind of on point. The Professor has been admirably pro-consumer, but lately he seems to have taken that to cartoonishly flanderized levels. It's not about "speaking truth to power", it's about the constant completely unnuanced scandalmongering and hot air. Not to mention all those times he took his platform to encourage people to buy illegal proxies instead of the official product, which is completely hypocritical, unprofessional and unjustifiable no matter which way it's attempted to be spun.
@BladeMaster117
@BladeMaster117 Жыл бұрын
I love what feels like a physical alchemy set
@mikemimson4771
@mikemimson4771 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video Prof! I wasn't planing on buying, but I was worried about artificial inflation on specific cards. You explaining what happened with dragon maze really put my mind at ease. I'm still new to magic, so I don't know much about product history so it's really great to have someone around that knows what they're talking about, thanks again!
@ObstagoonGuy
@ObstagoonGuy Жыл бұрын
Hell, I would love an Ikoria "spellbook"
@Stinkoman87
@Stinkoman87 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it came with the true Zilortha!
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 Жыл бұрын
This product feels like the aftermath of an uncomfortable meeting whose agenda is to choose which cards need to be cut from the March of the Machines set because the printers were overloaded with Secret Lairs.
@wolfdwarf
@wolfdwarf Жыл бұрын
JOKES👌!
@LuKo3x5066
@LuKo3x5066 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me that sending Pinkertons resulted in 15% rise of Hasbro stock's price. Imagine, how much they will earn once they do something even more outrageous!
@registereduser
@registereduser Жыл бұрын
I might have actually considered buying the “Plane X:Aftermath” type product if WoTC had thought of that instead.
@TheRealSpellstar
@TheRealSpellstar Жыл бұрын
the fact that they put Aftermath on Arena as a draft that just combines it with March of the Machines cards just makes it even more obvious that these cards were supposed to be part of March of the Machines originally. They play really well together
@jamminjelly117
@jamminjelly117 Жыл бұрын
Important reminder for PayPal honey, it's free because you are the product not the customer. As long as you take precautions and are okay with your data being sold, it might be a nice deal. Just keep in mind that PayPal bought this service because website can't see that you bought something, just that you browsed it, so this is an extra step to aggregate spending habits. Don't shame channels for plugging it either, just know what you're getting into.
@Chroniclerope
@Chroniclerope Жыл бұрын
Honey has actually never helped me. Whenever I go to buy something it fails to find coupons, a rather worthless program.
@Goldy01
@Goldy01 Жыл бұрын
@@Chroniclerope it seems to find coupons for the most common of the common shopping sites occasionally. Maybe marketed at older women or something? lol
@Bjoern_1897
@Bjoern_1897 Жыл бұрын
That "Signature Spellbook"xAftermath idea is sooo good holy sh. They totally should have done that
@ukaszmozejko9984
@ukaszmozejko9984 Жыл бұрын
This set makes Homelands and Saviors of Kamigawa look like perfectly designed sets.
@Dragonshade64
@Dragonshade64 Жыл бұрын
Homelands was before my time playing but damn.
@chuckfinley4542
@chuckfinley4542 Жыл бұрын
You can always rely on The Professor for these hard hitting commentary!
@ChadZeluff
@ChadZeluff Жыл бұрын
2 Pinkertons sent to harass over 1 Stinkerton of a product.
@Sinistra359
@Sinistra359 Жыл бұрын
Hey prof! Received my academic box yesterday and I love it!!! Hope you have a great day!
@ZS-bg7jo
@ZS-bg7jo Жыл бұрын
I stand by the notion that this set was developed during lockdown and their drum-beat release schedule means they never bothered to finish it.
@notme222
@notme222 Жыл бұрын
That'd be a fun question for Maro on tumblr. "Is it true Aftermath design was never finished and the cards just had to be released in a smaller, non-draftable set to meet the deadline?"
@friendo6257
@friendo6257 Жыл бұрын
@10:10 you make a good point. Perhaps with the new 3 year rotation structure they will release epilogue boosters featuring the 50 most played cards in standard. I would love to see that.
@Magicannon_
@Magicannon_ Жыл бұрын
The "low number of cards" booster is a space I feel is something that can work. Most boosters these days (no matter the type) is mostly chaff with the main useful cards at the rare/mythic and every so often a common. Cutting out said commons for nondraftable packs can make sense, but I feel they would have to be priced a bit less than a normal pack. That seems too generous and not soul-sucking enough for WoTC standards. I don't know...there's always tradeoffs. I just hope something new would be actually for the players instead of just being a new trick to separate money from -suckers- customers.
@ribbontoast
@ribbontoast Жыл бұрын
I agree. Since foils are bad quality not all the common/uncommon foils in a collector booster are kinda worthless anyway. I would be down with a cheaper product that only had the slots that are potentially good.
@TunaTom2
@TunaTom2 Жыл бұрын
I loved the comedic timing of that list at the beginning.
@pajurr
@pajurr Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you are not angered, rash, salty or anything else. You are taking the issue, examining every aspect of it, and then and only then, drawing conclusions of that. Have a nice day, like everyone else reading this comment
@KenshinRyuzaki
@KenshinRyuzaki Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what the 3 letter code is for Aftermath, but I would find it hilarious if people just started calling it PNK (for Pinkerton) just to immortalize WOTC's blatant abuse of money and power.
@davidlundquist1979
@davidlundquist1979 Жыл бұрын
For some reason, my brain reads that as "Portal Nine Kingdoms" instead of "PiNKerton". But I'm probably just weird.
@therealax6
@therealax6 Жыл бұрын
If you want to know, it's MAT.
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ Жыл бұрын
I love that Prof’s voice just increases in levels of “done” energy as the video goes on.
@danielvanginkel7081
@danielvanginkel7081 Жыл бұрын
Buying a regular March of the Machine collector booster taught me enough already. I payed 24 euros and got 4,50 worth of cards out of it. This will just be an extra insult to injury.
@dashkataey1740
@dashkataey1740 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with this set is that the 50 cards have multiple treatments, meaning that the price for an individual card is going to be extremely low once enough product is opened. The regular art Nissa might be selling for $14 now but with 4 different versions of the card, it means people are 4 times more likely to open at least one version of her within collector boosters and a few times more likely in just regular boosters. That's just going to tank the price of the card since the supply will be extreme versus demand. In a regular set with only 15 mythics out of 200+ cards, the odds are a lot lower to open a specific mythic or even an alt version of said mythic, meaning the price will stay high regardless. Yeah, this is a massive fail on so many fronts. The most expensive card will probably be only a couple bucks in a week or two.
@mikecantwell77
@mikecantwell77 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this makes the physical product worse or not but, if you buy an Aftermath booster on Arena, you get the exact same number of cards that you normally would in a booster for the exact same cost. It's a mix of Aftermath with regular MoM cards filling it out.
@Stinkoman87
@Stinkoman87 Жыл бұрын
That's what they should have done IRL too. Do a few runs of just March of the Machine, then after a month replace it with MOM:Aftermath, a draft booster with all the cards from MOM plus all (or at least the relevant ones) of this.
@therealax6
@therealax6 Жыл бұрын
They use MOM for the commons (and multiverse legends) and MAT for the rest. I also see a draft format advertised; I assume it's the same?
@SquareViking
@SquareViking Жыл бұрын
I picked up 8 copies of Filter out for less than 3 bucks, just because it's an amazing card. Imagine having to buy boxes until you got just one Playset..
@latinojackson9694
@latinojackson9694 Жыл бұрын
I'm really digging that tie, Professor.
@pyotrpustota1053
@pyotrpustota1053 Жыл бұрын
Professor roasting new products and WotC in general is my favorite thing about Magic at this point.
@sunszenith
@sunszenith Жыл бұрын
That plane pack idea sounds awesome tbh, getting a nice 8 cards displaying the aftermath for kamigawa…
@bobjoe2955
@bobjoe2955 Жыл бұрын
“Oh boy, I sure do love this card game! I think I’ll make content for the community on some cards they might like!” WotC: and I took that personally.
@Spymii
@Spymii Жыл бұрын
3 copies of Deification in a collector booster pack of 6 cards is absolutely insane to me
@RayneOfSalt
@RayneOfSalt Жыл бұрын
I bought 1 single from Aftermath, the green one with nissa & chandra, just because I have a "Flowers in the Art" themed commander deck and it's a new card that fits the gimmick. I thought the idea of an epilogue set was great, until I saw how wotc executed it (almost no story, very little flavour text? how is that an epilogue?) and heard that they sent the pinkertons after someone (btw, how are they not ridiculed for having a name like the villains in a d-grade spaghetti western?).
@Stray7
@Stray7 Жыл бұрын
They don't just have the *name* of the villains from a Western -- they are *literally* that same company.
@Solo-cu4eo
@Solo-cu4eo Жыл бұрын
Hey guys professor hasn’t mentioned it yet on KZbin but his deck box will be available for purchase at your LGS starting next year
@00Clank
@00Clank Жыл бұрын
I don't hate the idea of these micro-sets inherently, but it's a shame they aren't offering enough for game stores to even sell it for even the most meager of profit.
@UlithiumDragon
@UlithiumDragon Жыл бұрын
I love how there's just straight up a card called "Tolarian Contempt" in this set, and that you got it, and that it about sums up this video in two words.
@perfectedidiot2
@perfectedidiot2 Жыл бұрын
4:28 Somehow the word "Repeation" added more emphasis to the point than the word "Repetition"
@helmutlvx
@helmutlvx Жыл бұрын
Because of the history between the Pinkertons and my hometown, I can no longer purchase any WotC product from them or a retail store. I don't know if I can even justify purchasing secondhand. The game is a lot of fun and I still enjoy it but the deaths of my ancestors weighs more than cardboard.
@NinesTempest
@NinesTempest Жыл бұрын
Eh, just play with friends on table top simulator, no money needed :p
@marlmachine
@marlmachine Жыл бұрын
The only highlight I see with Aftermath is that we get Training Grounds in standard/ pioneer. It's a cool backbone of older modern/ legacy jank combos. I wish we'd get more of that!
@sXeAndriex
@sXeAndriex Жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for local game stores who ordered this hyped product before having any real idea that they were getting shelf warmers to be sold at a, likely, deep discount in the future.
@herbievalerius5740
@herbievalerius5740 Жыл бұрын
Got so many dupes from brothers war set boosters. Then I opened a box of draft boosters, and the collection was opened up. Set boosters increase the chance of rares mythics, yes, but as the Prof just stated, there's several different prints for each one!
@tuomashoffren534
@tuomashoffren534 Жыл бұрын
The card distribution, another 20-minute video? Looking forward to it!
@bigpunk157
@bigpunk157 Жыл бұрын
Sent the pinkertons to the guys house and then spoiled the whole set a week later. Was it so bad to wait a week?
@ziggy7457
@ziggy7457 Жыл бұрын
There’s only five cards per pack? Wtf 😆 That tie is on f’ing point Prof
@Phavahg
@Phavahg Жыл бұрын
none of the cards are commons is the short answer. however, as the Prof points out when you have 6 versions of the same rare card is it really rare? Also the packs contain "1-4 uncommons" but that might as well read "80% of the packs in a box contain 4 uncommons and 1 myth/rare" which was the case for the ones I opened. Not a single pack had more than 2 mythics/rares. There were several duplicate rares to boot -- in the same box.
@RobotHottdog
@RobotHottdog Жыл бұрын
10:58 this idea could lead to a fun jumpstart idea too!
@vitorizard
@vitorizard Жыл бұрын
I love that you are already saying that it isn't worth on the thumbnail, but sad that we are all so discontent with Hasbro and mtg, despite loving the game. I stopped spending money with mtg, I'm here just to support the professor
@thanetweyman8563
@thanetweyman8563 Жыл бұрын
50 cards, but over 200 card designs. Imagine if they'd used that art budget to... oh, I don't know... make more cards? They could even have an entire set's worth!
@splugereport
@splugereport Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the pink and teal card case!!!! Thank you!
@MichaelSuperbacker
@MichaelSuperbacker Жыл бұрын
Is that why there is a red “X” on the Collector Booster Box???
@Zed012
@Zed012 Жыл бұрын
Just an idea: WotC could have increased the value of the Aftermath booster by including MTG: Arena booster codes for random sets they’ve already released in Arena, but covered in a scratch-off coating. This would have also gone with the Across-The-Multiverse theme of the March of the Machines story and would give packs a direct value injection that the tcg players could sell to Arena players. I also like the idea about Aftermath being themed based on individual planes. One of my big complaints about the MoM story was that the card set had all these cool siege and battle cards for planes we havent seen in decades (looking at you, Mercadia), but they had little impact on the story itself.
@pablogarin
@pablogarin Жыл бұрын
Is it just me who thinks is funny how he got 2 "Tolarian Contempt"? I mean, come'on! It's just perfect.
@dalewood519
@dalewood519 Жыл бұрын
My local Walmart had them in stock yesterday. A regular aftermath pack was $15. Collector boosters were $25. I know bulk prices are better, but that's a huge disparity in price. Wild.
@matiasc003
@matiasc003 Жыл бұрын
You nearly get your Deification playset with that collector booster.
@benoitlabatut
@benoitlabatut Жыл бұрын
1 min into the video and it's already amazing! More please, I stopped buying MTG product when they went crazy with the printer but if all your video are like this, noone can stop me watching them!
@TheStalk
@TheStalk Жыл бұрын
I just got myself the Kamigawa cards for my collection, Plaarg for my Ignacio/Falthis book tribal deck and Calix for my Kethis Saga deck. Everything else was.... There, indeed.
@casaroli
@casaroli Жыл бұрын
I got back to MTG February 2022, in January this year, I sold all valuable cards I had. I had no idea mtg was in such a bad state when I came back. It’s insane how expensive it is to play this game and just how many products they’re pushing yearly. I miss blocks.
@austioperosis6450
@austioperosis6450 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I didn't mind the set as a whole. It actually reminded me of dragons maze from way back when. I bought a single box of aftermath. And while I didn't get nissa (the most expensive at the time of this comment), I did buy nissa and the few other cards I didn't pack to complete the set. All in all I spent about 140 dollars post tax, which at least didn't feel like a rip off, and after looking through all the cards I got from that box, only 5 of the rares I packed were duplicates. While I think it's always good to hold wizards accountable for garbage product, I don't think they set expectations for the set very high. I also didn't know about any of the cards before release, making it more exciting to pull what I did. This was also the first "set" I completed in a singleton manner since rtr. Granted a 50 card set makes that significantly easier, but it feels nice to have completed a set in some regard and now has me thinking of trying that strategy on sets moving forward. Make no mistake, this product is no homerun. At best it's a C-, but if they doubled the set size while keeping the commons at bay, I think this is a great supplemental idea compared to the 3rd set of a block that gets little to no attention and usually just filled with reprints. Keep up the awesome videos though, I love em all 😊
@MrArthurT1100
@MrArthurT1100 Жыл бұрын
That alternate idea is such a cool one. If only.
@eliasontiveros4297
@eliasontiveros4297 Жыл бұрын
4:40 Tolarian Contempt is a very appropriate name for Aftermath
@clasherking4528
@clasherking4528 Жыл бұрын
Say what you will but I bought a bundle of aftermath and found a great new addition to my Hans Erickson deck arni metal brow In case your not familiar with Hans Erickson, when he attacks you reveal the top card of your library if that card is a creature you put it onto the battlefield tapped and attacking and the creature must fight Hans once it enters, if you did not put the card onto the battlefield you then put the card into your hand. Arni says that when a creature you control attacks or enters the battlefield attacking you may pay 1 and a red to put a creature from your hand with lesser mana value from your hand onto the battlefield tapped and attacking. Just a lovely combo
@ExodaCrown
@ExodaCrown Жыл бұрын
I remember pulling a Voice of Resurgence when that set was new. I got a bunch of good cards from trading it to a friend since I didn't play the colors especially since I am a budget player. I think that is how I got my Mycosynth Lattice.
@barrytdrake
@barrytdrake Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Professor! I enjoyed your 'best cards for commander' video as well. No MOMA boosters for me, but I ordered Karn, Nissa, and Tyvar as singles. I have Commander decks that will appreciate them.
@Freerider1703
@Freerider1703 Жыл бұрын
would've love this to be a 50 second video where the prof just said "no" after the question "many magic player ask the question, is it worth to buy MOM Aftermath" and then the end screen rolls xD
@ChubbPirates
@ChubbPirates Жыл бұрын
cant wait for the universes beyond: Pinkertons set. i hope theres an arthur morgan commander deck,
@draketheduelist
@draketheduelist Жыл бұрын
Hey, a reprint of Shakedown Heavy!
@Chocolate83Bunny
@Chocolate83Bunny Жыл бұрын
Ok but actually though what's the Dutch deck doing
@ChubbPirates
@ChubbPirates Жыл бұрын
@BigBand no win con but it always feels like it's leading to something
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Жыл бұрын
It's impossible to take the incident seriously when people won't stop making stupid jokes about it.
@underdog32701
@underdog32701 Жыл бұрын
I think the name for 'Aftermath' is just the fallout for what WotC is doing to the fan base. For example: -Marketing the OGL for DnD -Shaving cards off for reprints in Commander Decks -Loosing Stock in the company -Last but certainly not least...Pinkerton
@twolf7448
@twolf7448 Жыл бұрын
ya i preordered a box from my lgs, but mostly cuz i know if i didn't, it would sit on the shelf =x he got like maybe 3 people that pre-ordered and 2 of them were for collector boxes (some of the guys aren't too bright, they just see shiny and go for it :D ). I'm also one of the very few that trade in my cards to the shop (majority do direct trades with each other), so just doin my part to make sure the shop has singles on the shelf, at least a handful. But agreed, if you don't have some very specific reasons like myself, it is 100% not worth buying sealed, better off just getting the singles you want and calling it good.
@c.malicious
@c.malicious Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest argument against the comparison of Pokemon's micro sets is that there's no product fatigue in Pokemon. If Magic was putting out one main set a quarter along with a few other small supplemental products a year, this video would have a totally different tone.
@CageFreeLowFatSugarFreeRange
@CageFreeLowFatSugarFreeRange Жыл бұрын
Definitely deserves an update, while the value is not there atm the cards inside are super useful, almost all of them have a home somewhere
@TheRealTHD
@TheRealTHD Жыл бұрын
You know what this reminds me of? The comic book boom and crash of the 90s where they released a bunch of tat with alternate or gimmick covers in an attempt to try and procure value. While Magic won't exactly crash, it's still a bunch of junk that people are getting tired of. Wow, 5 cards that cost too much! More of that please!
@laurencebrown3822
@laurencebrown3822 Жыл бұрын
There are a couple of singles I might want to pick up, but nothing that can't wait a month pr to so I can get them after the new card price spike has died down. I do like that mystery KZbinr's idea of how this set should have been marketed/sold, but I can't help but think that WotC would have just made them Secret Lairs instead, and proved to us that what we currently have is somehow not the worst possible way to sell us these cards.
@jayhopt
@jayhopt Жыл бұрын
That guy with the idea about plane themed products seems like a real up and comer. You should collaborate with him!
@gameprose4293
@gameprose4293 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy cause like, besides buying singles for my commander decks (or buying the tyranid 40k commander deck cause I play Tyranids in tabletop 40k), I don't spend money on paper magic anymore. I mostly play MTG Arena and even then I don't spend much, if any, money on it. On MTG Arena, Aftermath costs 1000 coins and comes with 8 cards, same as all other Boosters in MTG Arena. It's crazy that you get a better deal for it in Arena than you do when buying physical product. Even if you bring in gems, MTG Arena's paid currency, you get 750 gems for $5. That'll get you 3 Aftermath Boosters, which have 8 cards each. So even with cash it's a better deal. So makes one wonder if WotC is trying to kill Paper Magic.
@maasterofdx
@maasterofdx Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tie, professor!
@pUREsTORM9267
@pUREsTORM9267 Жыл бұрын
I'm keeping an eye on the price of the new Karn in Aftermath, as it's the only card I currently have interest in. The lowest price on Cardmarket, at the time of writing, is 12 euros, but I suspect the price will drop into the single digits, which is when I will probably buy a single.
@benhensley3621
@benhensley3621 Жыл бұрын
I may try to collect one of every card in Etched Foil- that card frame has always been my favorite, and it would be cool to say I have a full set of cards- but the singles are where it's at.
@saimaidar9417
@saimaidar9417 Жыл бұрын
March of the machine should have been a two set block with each set dealing with eight to 12 planes making this actually feel like a multiplanar invasion with some real focus on each invaded plane that we are familiar with an passing reference to planes that are hints of new sets down the road.
@WchubbsT
@WchubbsT Жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand why they expect us to pay the same for half the cards Edit: I’d buy it if it had a better price
@midnightpizzagoblin
@midnightpizzagoblin Жыл бұрын
love the irony of the collector's box having a huge red X
@WindchaserX
@WindchaserX Жыл бұрын
Here in my local game store, we like the Epilogue design. While the 5 / 6 card design isn't great compare to the usual 12-15 cards, it's completely normal since Japanese games are usually designed in that amount of cards. My second point is that, taking out all the commons is great despite that basically means the uncommons are commons in a way. Some card designs are pretty interesting in commander. All the set designs these days are basically for Commander and nothing else. Basically, if it fits into Standard, Modern, Legacy, etc... So be it. I find this is better to make the price point better, but not quite at Pokemon level still. Bundle still needs improvement after all the sets. Can they add a few more to make it look more appealing rather than just some basic lands, a promo, and a die?
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