Why It's Impossible For Studio Ghibli To Continue

[@bobafettjr85]

Van Gogh died in 1890. There has not been another Van Gogh. But there has been Picasso, Dali, O'Keefe, Khalo, and many more. New films won't be the same as Miyazaki's but they will have their own charm that makes them unique and beloved.

[@kingsleycy3450]

After Spirited Away became my favourite film of all time, I kept waiting for the next seminal fantasy from Miyazaki. That kind of never came. I have since liked other movies, but nothing scratched the same itch. The media and the artists you love are sometimes just once in a lifetime blips. They are not replicable and you just got to live with that

[@Shendue]

Sunao Katabuchi and Makoto Shinkai are the only ones that evoked the same level of emotion, to me. No other director came close.

[@NoiseDay]

I'm sick of seeing people call every new artist or studio the new Ghibli/Pixar

[@bobafettjr85]

@@NoiseDay Is that a thing people have been saying?

[@yake2685]

Naoko Yamada embodies this statement. Speak the truth brother!

[@tabris95]

Hayao is a slave to his own success. I feel like he's been painted as a sort of tragic figure recently with his inability to find a true successor to the studio, but the fact is he did this to himself. He's notoriously difficult to work with, shoots down all ideas that aren't his, and completely incapable of fostering growth and nurturing creativity in younger artists so that they can succeed. The reason there's no successor is because he never left room for one and instead just got frustrated and said "I'll just do it myself since no one else can." It's very telling that Studio Ponoc exists because of the working environment under Miyazaki.

[@Afreshio]

And Studio Ponoc hasn't developed anything that comes close to Ghibli's masterpieces. Yeah the animation may be splendid, but not on that level and also the themes and the direction is just more weeb shit or just Ghibli-adjacent cheap nostalgia.

[@tabris95]

@@Afreshio This view just comes across as bias to me. If you look at Ghibli's work under a more critical eye and actually accept their flaws, Studio Ponoc comes a lot closer than you think. Ponoc gets a lot of flack for being "the wannabe Studio Ghibli" and it's honestly pretty unwarranted.

[@devonbrockhaus6554]

I'm wondering if Miyazaki could codify a methodology for how he goes about his work. A "Hero's-Journey-diagram", of sorts, that could be a copywrited. He could also insist on ranges for experimentation, like "My studio only ever uses, max, 5% CGI."

[@tabris95]

@@devonbrockhaus6554 I believe someone could, yeah. Just not Hayao Miyazaki himself. Explaining his process has always been a huge weak point for him.

[@w21aaaaa]

@@tabris95 I just watched Howl's Moving Castle for the first time recently, and aside from the beautiful animation and soundtrack, the plot was nonsensical. Things just happens suddenly at random, characters have no coherent arcs whatsoever, scene changes felt abrupt. It genuinely felt like a parody of Ghibli itself. Couldn't believe Hayao actually directed that one. Even Spirited Away's 3rd act was pretty awkward with the Haku reveal that came up out of nowhere. As good as Miyazaki is, he's still a human being and have his flaws too. (Mononoke is still my personal favourite of his)

[@SoloRogueStudios]

Correction: Once Miyazaki DIES the studio is in trouble; that man has made it abundantly clear that he is never going to retire.

[@keenheat3335]

there is a 3rd possibility, AI gen art train on Ghibli style art and writing. Assuming Miyazaki calibrate the AI himself, it should be even more accurate than public imitator we have right now. So he can focus on higher level role and left the detail to AI

[@HollowsRus]

​@@keenheat3335Ew

[@hellothere_1257]

@@keenheat3335 Lol, I don't think there's a single person on this planet who detests generative AI more than Miazaki, so good luck with that

[@Sema-er7en]

@@keenheat3335I don’t think people who truly enjoy ghibli movies, movies that are one of the best at depicting human traits in fantasy settings, want to look at genarated images for hours. Given that they’re still made starting with traditional media as well. 🤚😂

[@darthmaul7434]

​@@keenheat3335No, just no.

[@linusandersson7072]

Any director good enough to be Miyazaki’s successor is too good to be Miyazaki’s successor.

[@malcovich_games]

…and would probably head their own studio instead of taking over Ghibli

[@zafuuuu]

exactly.

[@konstantinriumin2657]

Just like Miyazaki wasn't really "successor" of anyone. Talent will find a way to shine through

[@BLKDEVX]

Such a good way to put it

[@krux02]

@@konstantinriumin2657 let's hope so. Not ever talent gets a chance to shine through.

[@LorentzInvariance]

All good things must come to an end. It’s not sad, it’s not bitter sweet, it’s simply a reason to dwell upon the memories you enjoy, and move on with time.

[@dahanster5578]

💯

[@AnxietyAdvertisement]

Real. Came to share this thought as well.

[@ktburger659]

Indeed! The silly expectation of immortality and limitlessness has infected a lot of peoples’ thinking

[@KaterynaM_UA]

It is a little bittersweet bc that environment could have fostered a new creator with new vision of the same scale as he was and in current media landscape of cashgrabby sequels and soulless formulaic garbage for kids western studios spewing, in the age of AI there is an audience longing for soul and craft and artistry. That's why Arcane, Spiderverse and Blue eyed samurai were such hits. The longing is there but very few auteurs able to produce it. Ghibli could have given us a new one but it didn't.

[@mizukitaylor1700]

idk why you're phrasing it like its just some objective truth that it isnt sad or bittersweet, things ending absolutely can be (and often are) sad or bittersweet.

[@persephoneblack888]

I feel bad for Goro, and I think he should stay on his own path . Let his father figure out what happens to the studio.

[@elasmojones]

haha Goro the train wreck.

[@MrCharlieBros]

Too bad Goro sucks

[@defaulted9485]

Ya'll too hard on Goro. His film Earthsea is literally him saying "I cannot follow my father's footstep like this."

[@dwiandika6661]

His father is suck at being father

[@trentkuhn]

He should have been teaching his son storytelling and the secrets that he holds.

[@Shantosh9550]

Let's be honest here, who else is still at Ghibli besides Miyazaki and his son? Miyazki and Takahata basically scared away any potential successors they could have had, some forming their own studios or joining others, and there's barely anyone who can carry on the studio's prestige

[@tabris95]

I'm so happy that more people are seeing this. I've been saying it for years and most fans just don't want to hear it.

[@someblaqguy]

Maybe nepotism wasn't a good idea?

[@patrickiamonfire965]

Lot of people say he lives up to hubris and it justified. I’ll honest you are never justified to be a dick. You may be dedicated to the craft and may be the best but that doesn’t make you a good person. The way he addressed and rejects ideas of people especially his own son; of course people will leave. The strain relations between him and his son. But I’m glad he tried to make amends and that he understands that he shouldn’t pass the torch he made rather let others to make their own and have a choice to take it and add their own fuel. The restrictions and expectations are too much to pass down to anyone.

[@Afreshio]

The vision of Takahata's and Miyazaki's is one of a kind. Other directors may be amazing at animating and visualizing, the problem is what to visualize. That's what put those directors above all others. It's not something you can wish your way into. Look at a successful case, in the director of Evangelion. He was a protege of Miyazaki, but his vision is more otaku-weeb bullshit. Ghibli on the other hand always rise above those themes and tropes. And you mention Goro but let's be honest his father is right. He is just not cut for the role. You cannot wish yourself to become a genius director like your father just because he is your father. It's not a birthright, it's an unusual talent. Also the best candidate for being in charge of the studio died, and I'm not talking about Takahata. So it's not that they didn't tried to find a successor, is that both candidates just died from sickness.

[@denickart]

Yoshiaki Nishimura or Hiromasa Yonebayashi could've easily become Ghibli's successor before they went on to form Ponoc.

[@abelmulato8991]

It really feels like the environment Miyazaki created in his studio made it so stressful and awful that nobody who COULD carry on the legacy would wanna work there.

[@coreblaster6809]

It's the Japanese animation industry... Have fun wherever else 😂

[@KonjikiNoYami666]

@@coreblaster6809there are good companies that care about animators in japan. But its hella rare

[@backintimealwyn5736]

creativity comes from constraint.

[@coreblaster6809]

@@backintimealwyn5736 I don't really think that was the original meaning of the phrase

[@irondragonmaiden]

Actually, Ghibli is one of the few good studios to work on BECAUSE you get paid a proper salary in comparison and you are an actual employee (and so get benefits). Kyoto Ani is one of the other exceptions when it comes to this, as most anime studios only pay people as contractors (and so low that the animators would probably lead less stressful lives flipping burgers). Most anime studious constrain the creativity so the work matches the manga's look or the director's look WITHOUT the good pay or the security. So, let's not exaggerate either. Especially since Toei has an animator workers' union thanks to Miyazaki.

[@therainenetwork3510]

Goro will never make animation like his father and that's okay. If he keeps trying to make stuff like Hayao's work then it will not only never achieve that same quality but it won't be Goro's vision. People need to live the lives they want to live and the not the one that someone else has drawn out for them. Both parties will just end up being disappointed.

[@malcovich_games]

But Daddy, I love CGI! Let us do CGI! -Goro, probably

[@user-kl5zd2oe3e]

LeGuinn said she wanted Earthsea animated by Miyazaki. Miyazaki gave the project to Goro, who was a landscaper. It also doesn't help that Hayao was an absent father. Like hell would he sit down and teach his own son. Talk about setting your own son up for failure and straight up swindling LeGuinn. Burn in Hell. Totoro was trash.

[@straypaper]

Someone need to tell the kid that his dad wants him to be a carbon copy of his father. Goro needs to walk away and focus on doing things he truly like. No one is forcing him to carry anyone's legacy

[@elasmojones]

Either you got it or you don't. Its not something you can teach. You can hone it through practice, but Goro doesn't have it.

[@user-kl5zd2oe3e]

@@elasmojones Yes. Goro was a landscaper, not an animator, much less a director. And his daddy just tossed him into the deep end. Actually, Hayao and Goro kinda remind me of Gendo and Shinji. Funny because Anno is homies with Hayao.

[@matthewsermons7247]

"The Boy and the Heron" (dubbed) was the 1st and only, apparently, Miyazaki movie I've seen in theaters. Free of the distractions inherent to watching at home, I saw just how crazy-powerful his world-building truly was. The sense of confusion mixed with wonder was inescapable (sensory isolation of the theater). In hindsight, I realized how much I underappreciated his other works and what made his fans so vehemently loyal. Virtuoso would be an excellent way to describe him.

[@wqeu24]

I urge you to check Fathom events to see if they play Ghibli Fest at any nearby theaters for you. It’s basically a yearly thing at this point, and watching Spirited Away, Porco Rosso, Castle in the Sky etc. are just enhanced on the big screen.

[@EarlySunrise]

honestly what shocked me the most was the fire scene in the beginning, the art was just so good that i just cant get it out of my head.

[@estradaphotovideo]

@@wqeu24 Wow insane, this video popped up on my feed this morning and the Ghibli fest starts today! Totally going to be watching a handful in the theatre. Thank you!

[@jase276]

@@wqeu24 Couldn't agree more. The only Miyazaki film I saw on release in theaters was Spirited Away and I immediately became infatuated with it. But, it wasn't until a few years ago when I discovered Ghibli Fest that I finally got to see all of them in theaters and each one was a lifechanging experience. It really does hit different seeing them on the big screen

[@madmanonyt9943]

Hayao did this to himself. He can’t find someone to succeed him because he won’t let anyone do so, and insists that he’s the only one that can, opposed to shaping the next generation that’ll create masterclasses in their own unique way. There is one Hayao Miyazaki, and there will only be one Hayao Miyazaki. It’s his fault for expecting others to simply become a second version of himself.

[@konstantinriumin2657]

He never expected others to be a second version of himself, nor did he looked for such people. He is not looking for successor

[@madmanonyt9943]

@@konstantinriumin2657 He was for a long time. Why do you think he kept coming out of retirement? It’s because simply no one can consistently keep Ghibli afloat, without him, and Takahata’s passing solidified that.

[@konstantinriumin2657]

@@madmanonyt9943 He keeps coming out of retirement because he wants to make movies. That's his drive. As long as he gets some rest, he comes back

[@raw-b6658]

@@konstantinriumin2657he would quit if he could fine a successor. He hasn’t though that’s why he keeps coming back is because he needs the payday

[@aliceslab]

Because some new age garbage isn't magical. It's not being a clone it's understanding the heart of each stroke. Which new animators will ruin because they don't understand beauty and pain, they live in a time of peace and could never understand why or how to replicate such emotions.

[@getyourgameon1990]

TBF Up On Poppy Hill actually felt like Ghibi movie and honestly was fantastic and well received

[@Afreshio]

Partly because Miyazaki intervened too.

[@princeblackelf4265]

Yeah Up On Poppy Hill is great, I didn't realize that Goro directed it

[@getyourgameon1990]

@@princeblackelf4265 me either until I googled after the whole incest story line was weird but easily top 10 Ghibli

[@pablocasas5906]

@@Afreshio yes, he did write the screenplay for that one.

[@Mykasan]

i can't enjoy it with the incest in it.

[@tzrvines9862]

Goro and Hayao Miyazaki follow the toxic father son relationship trope we see in great movies and shows.

[@GeorgeEstregan828]

Like Baki Hanma and his dad?

[@LathropLdST]

​@@GeorgeEstregan828he said "great movies", not overhyped 9aГßa9€ body horror anime extravaganza...

[@Michael-bn1oi]

​@@LathropLdST 1st. Don't be a dick just because you don't like something, you clown. 2nd. Exactly like Baki

[@lazyvoid7107]

​@@LathropLdST6 likes are bot likes lol loser

[@ottohumpmachine8958]

He infamously walked out during a screening of his son's film to smoke a cigarette.

[@metricstormtrooper]

He's a bastard of a father.

[@bat_mobile7545]

That's the charm of being an artist, everyone can imitate their favorite artist but they will never replace them even technologies. Miyazaki-sensei's passing is unavoidable future, but he will left behind his heart and soul of art and in hope new generations of artists will learn what makes art special like he did.

[@tng2022]

❤❤❤

[@Flasa]

6:14 I love how in the English subtitles of this video, Mahito’s name goes from Magneto to Mojito to Mosquito in a span of 20 seconds 😂😂😂

[@muhdamsyar4800]

Lmao that hilarious

[@Makaneek5060]

The subtitles at 1:55 say "hot water"

[@jamesvincentsantinello]

This really reminds me of a quote from spider man "No one can live up to Tony Stark. Not even Tony Stark" In this case no one can live up to Hayao Miyazaki's legacy. Not even Hayao Miyazaki.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Building an entire company around one or two persons, whose outlook in life is far from optimistic, is not precisely a sound business strategy. People without hope or optimism are more likely to lose passion and eventually retire. Hayao Miyazaki has repeatedly tried to retire and they beg him to return because he's the company itself.

[@Dave102693]

Linus Media Group

[@EarlySunrise]

@@Dave102693 lol

[@malcovich_games]

Gainax

[@valintong889]

Yes, it should be centered around their product or service and how they can work together to continue the legacy. That being said Hayao should give more autonomy now that he planned to retire for the longest time.

[@ValentinoMarino11]

I thought he came out because he felt like making more movies?

[@ALBINO1D]

Captions can't decide if the main character of The Boy and the Heron is Magneto, Mojito or mosquito . 6:12

[@fishfingers4548]

Noticed that and laughed several times.

[@MountainHomeJerrel]

This is my headcanon now.

[@acmiguens]

Maybe Magneto was having a mojito while being bitten by a mosquito. I wouldn't be surprised 😅

[@AeroZephron]

His influence may skip a generation or two, but it won't disappear. Someone will come along to take up the mantle eventually and it's probably better that way.

[@KairuHakubi]

the thing is, the same forces that leave room only for one miyazaki.. are only going to get stronger. There's a reason there's not 20 different anime studios putting out huge high-quality breathtaking movies. in a generation or two, we'll be lucky if we still have electricity.

[@AeroZephron]

@@KairuHakubi electricity is as old as time itself. Doomer.

[@INRamos13]

I cried like a little baby at the end of The Boy and the Heron, because it felt like Miyazaki saying goodbye to his legacy. Grieving it, even. Openly weeping about it (the flood). It's tragic, but beautiful. And the music perfectly encapsulates it.

[@metricstormtrooper]

I thought it may be because of the shocking story.

[@yashvirsinghdalal]

It's been 500 years since Leonardo Da Vinci died. You cannot expect a new work from him now. Films are a lot like paintings. You cannot expect a new Stanley Kubrick film now, given that he has been dead for 25 years. Or from Tarkovsky. Or acting work from Heath Ledger for that matter. Same can be said for music (any new Michael Jackson song?). Or any form of human endeavour you can think of, even besides art. I remember 3 years ago when I learnt of Kentaro Miura's death (if you know who he is, you know who he is). It broke my heart, and I've never wept so much for a person I never knew. But, well. "Do not cry because it is over. Smile because it happened."

[@tzrvines9862]

Goro and Hayao Miyazaki are basically Kendall and Logan Roy in real life.

[@jordanloux3883]

Considering Goro's first movie was about a son killing his father, I'd say they're also a bit like the Lannisters too.

[@Afreshio]

Common in Japanese families, which are very patriarchal. Look at the documentary Jiro Dreams of Sushi. A similar father-son strained relationship too. VERY similar.

[@mcruz4571]

​@@AfreshioMost families in the world are patriarchal, that doesn't mean there are bad relationships between father/son......and nowhere in Japanese culture say "the father should ignore the son"......the bad father/son relationship between Goro and Miyazaki is Miyazaki's fault, let's not make excuses like patriarchy or culture, we are talking about Miyazaki, a guy who clearly understands and expresses emotions in his films, if he dint put those same emotions in his relationship with the son is his responsibility....This guy said that he spent hours studying a girl for the character of Chihiro, copying all her movements in detail, and he couldn't put that effort into his own son... get out of here...

[@tzrvines9862]

Studio Ghibli cannot continue because sadly Hayao Miyazaki is not immortal like his films and he also killed his son's potential by being a bad dad.

[@kd9-3.77]

And he killed the entire studio by driving away every talented producer and animator they had by being a bad person. Ghibli will fall and it's 100% his fault.

[@Afreshio]

@@kd9-3.77 And what of those producers and animators? What have they produced that comes close to Ghibli's masterpices? NOTHING.

[@douglasdoyle8944]

@@Afreshioso that justifies his awful behaviour?

[@viviangarcia5696]

Like the queen, both seemed so untouchable, immortal big than life, but he too will see his end eventually one day.

[@denickart]

@@Afreshio Those producers and animators were literally the people that produced those Ghibli masterpieces...

[@mrfugazi1181]

Myiazaki is not only the greatest animation director of all time, he is one of the best and most consistent film directors in movie history (yes, he stands shoulder to shoulder with the greats of live-action cinema). Today, I see an atrocious tendency to denigrate an author's legacy by overlapping his personal life, faults and idiosyncrasies with his work. We should not ignore everything that his cinema has taught us - the embrace of the fantastic and the magical; the acceptance and exploration of the ambiguity of the characters; the appreciation of loyalty and kindness; the important lesson of achieving redemption through dedication to one's work; respect for one's elders; the courage to face adversity; unconditional love for others and for nature. We are lucky to have been able to see such a work.

[@adiamondtrash9344]

Very true i loved everyone of his movies some i found disturbing when i was younger but then i loved what i found disturbing after a rewatch

[@tng2022]

He truly is the one and only, the mastermind and prophet, philosopher and poet, maverick and sovereign. He gave it everything, everything, and it shows in every dot. Tears, blood, heart, soul, I feel it in my bone every single line. ❤ perfection on earth. his films are lost paradises that never existed until he draws them. The more I grow up the more I love them, and I loved them when I was an infant too, because everything he made is so intuitive and sensuous, as well as cerebral and tender. Just delicacy of emotions, such gourmet of the senses, such ecstatic intellectualism and abstractions. Such sumptuous, fabulous, opulent sensibilities. Hayao and Isao really are unrivalled, unmatched for eternity. 🎉

[@deffdefying4803]

Very true that some personal dramas should not be taken outside the house, and I would ordinarily agree that work and home should be separate; but this particular drama specifically has to do with his treatment of his coworkers at the studio that left such a legacy, one such coworker being his own son.

[@mrfugazi1181]

@@deffdefying4803 I suggest watching the documentary “10 Years with Hayao Miyazaki” (available on the NHK website). In this portrait of the master, we see how obsessive his dedication to his work is. During the production of Ponyo, he was often the last to leave the studio, working through the night, day after day. I imagine that this level of commitment is incompatible with a healthy family life. I also recognize that Miyazaki treats his son with a certain degree of cruelty. But I repeat, none of this has anything to do with the quality of his work. The author's personal life is one thing, the legacy of his work is another. I don't know the man personally, but I know his work and that has enriched my life.

[@KingInBlack69]

Being a great artist isn’t an excuse to be a huge asshole

[@jckorn9148]

Sometimes, you have to know when to sell the farm.... Nothing lasts forever.

[@Codnex]

May perhaps, someone will find those blocks through spacetime and create something even more beautiful. That who knows maybe many will find the leftover blocks and make their own. In the end nobody else will have the same tower as Ghibli. But it's the memories that will be found through the fabric of life that we woven to capture those memories in our hearts.

[@fishfingers4548]

There's a part of me that wonders if several of the references to fish in the Boy and Herron was a coded apology / acceptance of Mamoru Oshi's work. It seemed that Miyazki was not always on the best speaking terms with him, and fish aren't commonly depicted in Ghibli's work... it tended to focus on birds and planes. Dunno doe...

[@batgirl052009ify]

I watched the Boy and the Heron and while it was beautifully animated. I was left feeling like the story was disjointed despite its themes. But this video gives me a new perspective, I didn't know the story could be implied to be so personal to Hayao's life. If that's the case, it feels like a send-off then.

[@steffenbendel6031]

It does not flow at easy as some of the other movie stories. Certainly not my favourite Ghibli movie.

[@byssmal]

Feels like the movie's plot was a message to his son

[@tomcurl8034]

there will never be another hayao miyazaki but his art has touched millions and has inspired artists the world over and once he is gone his art will live one

[@skywalkerhunter95]

0:19 both the "Disney Dark Ages" and the "Disney Renaissance" happened after Walt passed;

[@lyalllupin8789]

Watched the movie in theaters and I am glad I did, it was one of the best movies I’ve seen in the last few years and brought back fond memories from when I was a kid and watched Spirited Away.

[@pendaco]

The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness... It was not just Myazaki but Takahata, Goro Myazaki, Yonebayashi, Kondō and Morita that were an integral part of the success of Ghibli.

[@neoasura]

It should fall, not in a bad way, but as an end of an era so we can make way for a new era. Similar to some of the great classic rock bands, the ones that stopped while they were ahead have a better legacy then the ones who kept going into elderly age with subpar music.

[@JimJones-kj8jk]

My three favorite Ghibli movies are Ocean Waves, Whisper of the Heart, and From Up on Poppy Hill. None of which were directed by Miyazaki or Takahata.

[@greekandbulgariangamertv8633]

Yeah true but we already know that Goro won’t be the successor and his record is with the exception of poppy to say the least not as good and yoshifumi Kongo the director of whisper of the heart (my favourite movie of all time probably) was expected to be the successor but well he died back in 1998 and Tomomi Mochizuki the director of ocean waves could be a candidate ig he is just 65 but from what I can see from wiki he is not that involved into studio ghibli and from what I can see the other people that have directed studio ghibli films aren’t involved with the studio anymore (well ig Hiromasa Yonebayashi the director of arrietty and when marnie was there is ig involved we was apparently the key animator for boy and the heron but yeah idk) so yeah

[@thomasthemtman]

From up on Poppy Hill has such a classic Ghibli vibe while being a story about simple people A grand arching story is not always necessary , a story is centered around characters and this story is a good one !!!

[@MementoMorituri]

I think I agree with Miyazaki. Studio Ghibli goes with him. It is too inextricably bound to his work. But its influence will live as long as there is animation, kind of like with Walt Disney and Chuck Jones, etc. There will be other great anime directors coming from Japan after Miyazaki is gone. They may even reach greater heights because they are standing on his giant shoulders.

[@redlight3772]

I just realized I haven't watched a single studio ghibli film, I'll need to check it out.

[@michaellyden2580]

Just a heads up: Grave of the Fireflies will destroy you.

[@user-vx9jy7jl2l]

Spirited Away should be the last movie (if you plan on watching all of them). You know what they say, leave the best for last.

[@Wired4Life2]

@@user-vx9jy7jl2l Nah, watch them all in release order, including starting off with non-SG films _Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro_ and _Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind._

[@pablocasas5906]

​​@@Wired4Life2should people who are interested in Ghibli's works should also watch things like Hols, Heidi, Panda Go Panda, Anne of Green Gables, Lupin III, Marco in Search of Mother, Sherlock Hound, etc?.

[@123mathtutorabc4]

Yoshifumi Kondo was supposed to be the successor of Miyazaki but he died unexpectedly in 1998. Kondo directed Whisper of the Heart, it was the only film he directed for Studio Ghibli. Whisper of the Heart was the highest grossing movie in Japan in 1995, Kondo started working on Princess Mononoke immediately after Whisper of the Heart as he would commonly take on several projects at once. Kondo died in January 1998 at the age of 47 from an aneurysm. The doctor said it was due to Karoshi, a Japanese word that means death from being overworked. Miyazaki referred to Kondo as his right arm as he cried during Kondo's eulogy: "I'm a kind of person who would abandon a sinking ship, but Kon-Chan was a kind of person who chooses to die with the people at the bottom of the ship. Maybe you didn't want to be dragged around by me any longer...You were such a patient one, like waiting silently for the snow to melt. Why, at this time, have you gone before me?" RIP

[@ithamarlowe6158]

I will be honest with you. Their movies, their art style, its a blueprint for future animators and artists. There will definitely be someone that picks up the mantle and improves on it making more masterpieces in the future.

[@carstengrooten3686]

Its seems that although Miyazaki has taught us all many lessons, there are some things he has never mastered himself. He has been able to lead a team of artists for so many years, but from the outside he does not seem to be able to teach his craft to someone else. In some ways this makes sense, as this level of story writing requires life experience and a special kind of creativity that is unique to every person. There can never be another Hayao Miyazaki. But there does not have to be. What might bring an end to Ghibli is that he was not able to teach others to write their own stories. But Goro Miyazaki seems a capable writer/director and it looks like he has a passion for it. According to his father he has not enough talent, but I have seen From Up On Poppy Hill and I liked it. I do not know how good he is, but I could imagine that he might have grown more with a helping hand from his father instead of conflict and rejection. The irony is that Hayao Miyazaki has wanted this himself. He has shown us that rather than finding and training a successor, he is willing to see his company fall apart. He is to proud to take on a proper mentee, as he feels they are not as good as he himself is. Therefore we should not be sad or feel sorry for him: deep down he must always have known it would come to this and he seems ready to accept that fate. So we should too. There is a beautiful collection of his movies to watch, and if there will be more that would be lovely. But if there will not be, we can all be greatful and content with the works Studio Ghibli has produced

[@FireBomberBassist]

Man, poor Goro. As someone trying to live up to their parents expectations too that’s tough.

[@Koellenburg]

I loved Earthsea ... I remember how beautiful the scenery was

[@giovannyvillalta7179]

Great art is made personal. Goro should make something personal. Use his own life experience, instead of just trying to recreate his dad's work. Or make a sequel to Jimmy neutron. That would be cool too

[@cmbaz1140]

Better than ending up like disney and pixar...

[@Magdalena8008s]

Like Disney and Pixar? It appears we have another person buying into right wing talking points and ignoring facts. Yes, Chapek was dumb. Wanted quantity over quality and put them all on Disney+. Iger is back. A smart person. Things will be fine. And even some of the "bombs" they had were actually good. They were just review bombed and nobody went to them because day and day release. They still continue to make quality content. Yes, Marvel struggled. But even then they all made good money. Stop living in this imaginary land where you just echo nonsense from those with an agenda.

[@cmbaz1140]

@@Magdalena8008s ok.

[@OriginalItsFly]

@@Magdalena8008s its fine to let companies fade away sometimes. Ghibli has always been a one person show and people turn up to see what Miyazaki is doing. It's extremely difficult to pivot from that position when it's been built up over decades. Disney and Pixar creatively aren't pushing any boundaries or creating anything exciting currently. Would it be great if they turned it around? Yeah it would but I'm not overly hopeful.

[@ranoutofgoodusernames8394]

@@Magdalena8008s lmao

[@viviangarcia5696]

​​​​@@OriginalItsFlyeven then we know studios like pixar, disney, laika, aardman, and dreamworks's works comprise by a large team effort and collaboration, comprise of more departments than just the person who pitches the movie idea. And these projects wont always be the same quality since there is always a new team and new creative perspectives throughout years or eras. When you think of ghibli, many tend to only focus on miyazaki as the main sole creator and developer,and navigator, heck the studio struggles when hes not around.

[@weiyipeng600]

I like this video. Yet, I think having no successor is not an issue if we looked back at the creation of Giblii. Giblii was, and still is, a studio for Takahata and Miyazaki, two already established animation giants in 80s, to make their dream projects come true. It is a tool for those two artists. Others might need to do what they did in the 70s: to establish themselves in the field and forge their own path.

[@tng2022]

❤

[@solitarymacaroni]

Feel sorry for Goro. He did a great job on Poppy Hill. Love that film so much.

[@randomnobody9229]

His father is filled with hubris, and unfortunately has and always will be a failure of a mentor and a father. A great artist, but failing in life.

[@knuxuki1013]

I don't think I ever got into the Ghibli movies but I do respect the love for the studio and it and Hayao's works, so even I'm touched in some negative ways by all this. Is it just going to end like that...we'll see, but I'm not sure I'm worried for his son's future, he'll get there!

[@destroyazoid2060]

I was always more of a Satoshi Kon man. I’m trying to look further into Mamoru Hosoda’s movies too.

[@nitsugazemag]

Out of Goro's features, the 3-D one is the one that frustrates me, not so much on the technical side, but more-so on the story side where the movie ends abruptly and without closure. I liked Up on Poppy Hill and even Earthsea. Clearly, not the same quality as his father's films, but not as terrible as what your criticism might allude to. I hope they find a successor that wants to be. I don't think it's fair to force someone into a mold that he, himself, isn't confident in being in. In that regard, I feel for Goro. Probably why we don't see too many success stories around nepotism because times change and evolve. While 2-D animation is their bread and butter, I don't think they should outright reject other forms of animation. They won't match what Miyazaki did, but it's best to remember that he wasn't the only one to work at Ghibli.

[@firefox1033]

It also should be noted that it took time for Hayao Miyazaki to be hailed as a genius. Nobody starts out perfect (including Hayao Miyazaki). It takes time to hone your craft. And in my opinion Goro has the "potential" to fill his father's shoes in time.

[@ValentinoMarino11]

@@firefox1033Thank you! The expectations for Goro are absolutely insane it’s genuinely unfair to him. If he wishes to continue, he’ll need more time in order for his skills and direction to mature. And that’s completely fine, it’s natural. I wish people realized that :/

[@davidholloway6950]

Stooooop I didn’t realize any of this when I watched the movie in theaters. He just wants his son to be happy 😭😭

[@ChaoticUrges]

They made Grave for the fireflies right?

[@getyourgameon1990]

Yes

[@denickart]

@@ChaoticUrges Takahata did yes

[@pablocasas5906]

That was directed by Takahata, yes. But something interesting about that movie, is that Ghibli doesn't actually own the complete rights to it.

[@Mykasan]

@@pablocasas5906 that's confusing. how don't they own the rights?

[@pablocasas5906]

@@Mykasan I think it's because the rights for Grave of Fireflies are partially owned by Shinchosha Publishing, who own the rights of the book the film is based on

[@SanadaUsako]

Problem is, there WAS a successor a one time, but Kondo died very young. They’d still be in trouble if he hadn’t because he wasn’t THAT much younger than Takahata and Miyazaki- but ten years younger would have given them someone to carry forward with. Such a tragedy because his film, Whisper of the Heart is one of my favorite Ghibli films

[@TheSundanceKid-s9f]

Miyazaki is still a child, emotionally. He can't allow himself to be happy for his own children, he despises his own work and projects that onto the work of his peers and employees, and - by all accounts - he is so apathetic he was okay with his *best friend* essentially bullying one of their lead character designers so much the stress literally killed them. Why can I say that? Because he never once stepped up to force the hand of leadership and stop it from happening. There's no way he could have *not* known it was happening, and he let it go on until the man died - that means, on some level, Miyazaki either didn't care... Or worse, he was *okay* with it. Given his reputation for being so incredibly difficult (if not sometimes simply impossible) to work with, I'm more than willing to believe the latter. Ghibli's gradual decline is a product of its own sin. It deserves to collapse - not for the quality of its work, but for the *lack* of quality of its leadership. Miyazaki's inability to grow up and accept things as they are has made him miserable, and he's the sort of man who by all accounts can't stand to see anyone else find a kind of happiness he disagrees with.

[@soupking5392]

With this new age of internet there will be fans and successors of his specific art. Never completely replicated but influenced. It will be beautiful to see in the future. When it will be. Hopefully before I pass

[@furripupau]

I recently saw Marnie Was There, and it is a better film than all but one or two of the movies Miyazaki has directed for Ghibli. Unfortunately the director of that film left the studio. It is proof though that the studio could find other talented directors if they wanted to. They just don't.

[@ta0paipai]

Ghibli had a great run. I don’t like some of the recent stuff, but the library lives on. And that’s worthy of gratitude. Really, I doesn’t matter if it continues. Other great creators will come - Mamoru Hosoda for example.

[@Dan-cm9ow]

Generational talent is rare due to regression to the mean. Two very tall people will (on average) have a child who is taller than average but shorter than them. It is rare for top sports players to even have a child good enough to be a pro, let alone another legend. Same for scientists and artists. Expecting Hayao's son to be able to carry his legacy was folly to begin with. I would not expect it to even be a matter of training and conditioning, it probably was just never meant to be.

[@TheEchosofOuroboros]

What a weird take. Miyazaki didnt even give his son a chance. People arent a set of means, or stat values what are you talking about? What are you some weird eugenicist or something? You cant quantity someone's potential like that. Thinking like that leads to this egocentric insanity Ghibli is dealing with. His son had all the "training" needed imo, guy is highly educated and well adjusted considering his father peaced out on the bare minimum requirements of being a supportive parent. His son since a very young age probably had exposure to things people can only dream of. This shapes your ability to create art. But does it guarantee success? No. No shit it doesnt. But I dont see how brain dead and narcissistic you have to be to pass up on a potential person to continue your legacy, who A. wants to do it, and B. is literally family. This is what happens when emotionally immature people rule the world. They only care about perfection concerning their own legacy. People are just numbers in the equation for their moby dick like obsession. Its sad and gross and so is your post lol.

[@TheEchosofOuroboros]

What a weird take. Miyazaki didnt even give his son a chance. People arent a set of means, or stat values what are you talking about? What are you some weird eugenicist or something? You cant quantity someones potential like that. Thinking like that leads to this egocentric insanity Ghibli is dealing with. His son had all the "training" needed imo, guy is highly educated and well adjusted considering his father peaced out on the bare minimum requirements of being a supportive parent. Guy since a very young age had exposure to things people can only dream of. This shapes your ability to create art. But does it guarantee success? No. No shit it doesnt. But I dont see how brain dead and narcissistic you have to be to pass up on a potential person to continue your legacy, who A. wants to do it, and B. is literally family. This is what happens when emotionally immature people rule the world. They only care about perfection concerning their own legacy. People are just numbers in the equation for their moby dick like obsession. Its sad and gross and so is your post lol.

[@TheEchosofOuroboros]

What a weird take. Miyazaki didnt even give his son a chance. People arent a set of means, or stat values what are you talking about? What are you some weird eug.... or something? You cant quantity someones potential like that. Thinking like that leads to this egocentric insanity Ghibli is dealing with. His son had all the "training" needed imo, guy is highly educated and well adjusted considering his father peaced out on bare minimum requirements of bring a supportive parent. Guy since a very young age had exposure to things people can only dream of. This shapes your ability to create art. But does it guarantee success? No. No shit it doesnt. But I dont see how brain dead and narcissistic you have to be to pass up on a potential person to continue your legacy, who A. wants to do it, and B. is literally family. This is what happens when emotionally immature people rule the world. They only care about perfection concerning their own legacy. People are just numbers in the equation for their moby dick like obsession. Its sad and gross and so is your post lol.

[@himanshurohewal1623]

It's simple there cannot be another Miyazaki. He is the essence and spirit of what ghibli stands for. No one could do it like him and one is interested to see anyone else either. Miyazaki is ghibli.

[@user-uu8ui1vz2u]

I always like your videos but this one might be my favourite yet. Thanks!

[@andystephon871]

If I had to say anything about Miyazaki and his son, is that I doubt the boy has spent enough time outside compared to his father. Ghibli's magic comes from the depths of real experiences and hardships that drove his escapism and imagination. You can't get that so easily from a modern upbringing in a first world nation with a millionaire father/household. Not to say it's impossible, but it's like comparing someone who swims in their pool for leisure to the experience of a tribal spearfisherman diving into the coastal waters for the sake of his and his family's survival. The way those two persons would see and appreciate the nature of the ocean simple aren't within the same ballpark. Maybe you can't artificially build wisdom and depth but you can seek. Maybe that's what he needs to help him capture that magic. Real, visceral, magical experiences and frustrations. Rather than the unending modern melodrama of urban life.

[@hanschristianbrando5588]

It would be tragic (artistically if not necessarily financially) for Studio Ghibli to follow Disney's path after Walt died. That's the trouble with geniuses: they don't live forever, damn them.

[@amusicalinstrument9745]

it is amazing how honest both of them sounded. beautiful.

[@allyip5777]

Why isn’t Laputa, City in the Sky, mentioned? It’s still my favorite childhood memory.

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

Yeah, I don't know why he didn't message you and ask what your favorite movie was and mention it just for you.

[@allyip5777]

@@HarryBuddhaPalm well I’m not that egocentric lol. I was rather surprised not seeing Laputa that’s all. 🥹

[@connorscanlan2167]

THANK YOU for being one of the few KZbinrs who pronounces "Ghibli" correctly. I won't ever understand why it's so hard for so many KZbinrs; they often DOUBLE-DOWN when it's explained to them, too. It was a relief to hear you use that "j" sound.

[@diodish]

'Let it pass now and become a legend or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.' I could never achieve the level of understanding that Hayao Miyazaki is, but I do understand this, its best that he let his legacy end or let others spoil his and studio Ghibli work so hard to build. You can see many examples of movie, anime and game studio fail to follow up their first founder goal. Simple examples look at Disney now comparison to Disney in its golden era when Mr. Walt Disney lives sketch his masterpiece one after another.

[@arrowkneeguy]

Maybe, just maybe studio Ghibli was an extension of the man himself and it does not need any successors. When he is gone, let the company simply maintain his legacy.

[@travissimpson812]

Me and my entire family are studio ghibli fans. 😊

[@austinpapageorge7210]

6:46 I thought I heard the Heron was supposed to be Toshio Suzuki. Also, you didn't mention Yoshifumi Kondo, who was once planned to take leadership in Ghibli before he died in 1998.

[@cheesegorelove]

Yoshifumi Kondo was the most likely successor. Too bad he died of an aneurysm and the stress of working at Ghibli might have contributed to it.

[@inazuma3gou]

Yes, Toshio Suzuki claimed the Heron was himself and the great uncle was Takahata Isao. Which makes Miyazaki Hayao the young boy still enthusiastic about living his life and making new movies.

[@Gertithephoenix]

The old man in the movie represents Miyazaki 🤯

[@dukemarine3425]

Really would he want his legacy to continue on like Walt Disney’s seeing how that monstrosity has turned out?

[@EB-73-]

"Our main character; Magneto" 😭😭😭 CC cooking with this one

[@SweaterSwagg]

My prediction before watching the video: Cuz Hayao Miyazaki is too goated and no one can fill his creative shoes Edit: Watched, called it 🐐

[@pablocasas5906]

That kind of reminds me how every time people mention Ghibli's films they are always Miyazaki's works, with the exception of Grave of the Fireflies and perhaps Whisper of the Heart and Arriety

[@SweaterSwagg]

@@pablocasas5906 And for good reason. No knock on the other films/directors but Miyazaki to Ghibli is like Shigeru Miyamoto to Nintendo, that just is what it is

[@Rha-i7m]

I think he is right that nobody can succeed him. The reason is the movies are reflections of Miyazaki himself and no two people are the same. It is impossible to find someone who would share exactly the same sense of beauty, interests, values and imagination forged by hardships endured during childhood.

[@abbasshachem3383]

I don't believe that you talked about the early days work of Miyazaki and forget about Mirai Shōnen Conan The anime that made him well known

[@joeythefracturedangel9826]

The only word's I can say is that it's both sad but understandable for the fate of Studio Ghibli (Truly one of a kind, but very grateful we had it in the first place)

[@realprotomike]

They actually the said the same thing about Walt Disney.

[@InvertedWIng]

They were right.

[@CoqueiroLendario]

@@InvertedWIng Were they really? From me the company was flawed even during the so called golden age while Disney himself was still alive. Disney was a man who was dead set on making every thought be about him or his creations, by his later years. While the state the company is right now is completely degraded and a shadow of what it may even been in the past, i can't deny that there was other creative minds inside, for example the people who made Lilo and Stitch.

[@Matixmer]

@@InvertedWIngNo!? They created magic for almost 40 years without Walt Disney before becoming what they are today.

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

Walt himself was far more prolific with 19 animated features and scores of live action movies like Mary Poppins in his lifetime. The Disney Renaissance era was truly something itself with 10 very solid films. Though, Who Framed Roger Rabbit should be a very notable addition since it played a very vital role in kick starting the Renaissance era.

[@ethanblair7351]

I Grew Up Watch Various Studio Ghibli I Think Theres Still Hope Yet Seeing These Similarities In His Recent Work It Is Inspireing More Then Anything

[@Schellnino1994]

Studio Ponoc tho!

[@harrisonrakhshani4706]

exquisite take, truly blessed. Feel like I've got a better grasp on the boy and the heron now :)

[@willow2816]

It feels so similar to the downfall of Disney…

[@aterriblesliceoftoast]

Oh damn I didn’t realise that about The boy and the heron, that’s so awesome

[@ronoc9]

Man, Goro. Poor Goro.

[@MrMonklad]

Give it 10 years and Miyazaki will get over writers block and manage to give us another gem.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Ghibli is better than Disney

[@elianperez534]

You sound like a disney haters

[@maryb8150]

They are more original.

[@patrickiamonfire965]

Disney isn’t what they used to be just pixar.

[@TheMinhthe]

while i like ghibli films, that just straight up bullshit.

[@androognoix1685]

Weeb

[@Gertithephoenix]

Beautiful just Beautiful brilliant lovely and wonderful ❤😊

[@Watch-0w1]

His son should strike to do it he own style.

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

CGI

[@OASISwithTRIP]

Hayao Miyazaki says that he will retire every time after finishing his work, so as long as he continues to live, there may still be.

[@FlymanMS]

Clickbait title. What actually was in the video is short bio for Miyazaki, some info about his son and the plot for his latest film. Thing like that prompt people to stop watching and unsubscribe. Why can't you just honestly call this video "My thoughts on Studio Ghibli's future".

[@matthewsermons7247]

I looked at the video's thumbnail which stated "Broken Legacy" and considered why it might be flawed or misleading. "What was broken?" or "What made it a legacy?" This video is centered on the father/son dynamic and the talent of Miyazaki is not, can not be passed down to his son or anyone at Ghibli.

[@hueyfreeman8845]

Nooooooooooooooo! No way!!! I didn't know goro made tales of earth sea!!! In my opinion tales of the earth sea is the best studio ghibli movie ever!! It's my absolute favorite!

[@urvampmari]

glad to be this early lol

[@crazysunshyne]

Of course people can’t replace Miyazaki. He is a genius of understanding and portraying emotion. He suffered a lot in his life and seems able to channel everything

[@SnapWireOnlyOne]

the boy and the heron the sound is so bad also the story is way to slow they carry it on for way to long........

[@charlespouono2103]

Mr. Hayao Miyazaki is a beloved inspiration whose work will be treasured for generations to come. Maybe it is the best to end his legacy with what he’s done. His work is beautiful, but it’s also uniquely his. If the era of Miyazaki ends, another will begin.

[@RandomKun]

I actually felt that the movie "Boy and the Heron" was missing something. The Miyazaki magic was just not there. Maybe because of his conflicts with himself.

[@neoasura]

Same, I actually had to stop watching half way because it just wasn't doing it for me and I got bored. I hate saying that because I love all of his classic movies, but idk, this one was just too out there for me.

[@TheDragonsDaughter]

I took got bored halfway through and had to finish the next day. I felt like I had both watched it before, and didn't care to know the ending for certain.

[@farlanghn]

You forgot to mention the Lupin Movie Miyazaki directed that is a masterpiece and a shame it is not talked about more.

[@GCJACK83]

Something to keep in mind about Miyazaki is that he called anime, the style that brought him his worldwide success and fame, a mistake. Is he entitled to his own opinion? Yes, but it's hypocritical of him when it's given him everything in his life. It's like a dog biting the hand that feeds it.

[@KaterynaM_UA]

that's not what he meant, that clip was taken out of context.

[@robertnomok9750]

1. You dont know anything about anime history so stop pretending. 2. Learn to double chek your facts insted of relying on twitter

[@Phil9874]

i think the problem is that there can't be another miyazaki he has a style wholey unique to himself and he can teach other people what he knows but they will always be different in how they approach the same issues. All good artists will pass at somepoint but there with be others who have similar stories to tell with a different perspective.

[@TheGoblinoid]

Ghibli is the most overrated studio out there. Most stories are pretty weak. Entire movies that consist on visually stunning non-sequitur scenes that add up to nothing. To add insult to injury most titles are riddled with Japanese nationalist propaganda. It's just not that good, y'all just weebs.

[@molanohouse]

Cringe

[@TheGoblinoid]

@@molanohouse cope

[@Монс-й1ь]

"Throughout the heavens and earth, i alone am the glazed one" -Ghibli

[@MarkWhippy]

The Ghibli movies are all Hayao’s stories. He probably just has to allow the others tell their own stories in their own way for it to continue. No one else can tell Hayao’s story other than him.

[@superscienceshow]

Just want to say thank you Goro. I love Earth Sea and Poppy Hill. They are wonderful works of art.