Why Jesus Fully Human and Fully God is Impossible

[@AmeliaAlHayek]

It's possible and Jesus Christ already proved it.

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

The original text of the Bible does not exist. If you cling to all the copies of the holy books, you will never be able to prove your religion because there is no original text that you can refer to. All versions of the Bible contain additions, inaccuracies, distortions, and contradictions, so they are not the word of God. These are not my words, but the words of Christian scholars.

[@AmeliaAlHayek]

@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص We have thousands and thousands of manuscripts which tells us what the original was once you compare them side by side and as well two thousand year of church history including all the church fathers statements which they all quote the Bible and thus we can construct exactly what the original text says. And the original is what we have today.

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

​@@AmeliaAlHayek Well, these are some books by Christian scholars: 1.The Text of the New Testament: Its Transmission, Corruption, and Restoration by Bruce M. Metzger 2.Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why by Bart D. Ehrman 3.Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism by Elijah Hixson 4. Jesus of Nazareth by Pope Benedict XVI >> (In this book, the Pope confesses to distorting the Bible) Page 200 On pages 260-261, he confesses here in the conclusion of the Gospel of Mark, chapter 16, verses 19-20, he says that this conclusion is fake and was added to the text in the second century AD, and this is a confession from the head of the largest Catholic church, It relates to a long text in the New Testament. The Gospel of Mark is the oldest of the Gospels, and the oldest text of Mark is distorted, and this is a very important statement. 5. In the book: مفتاح العقد الجديد الجزء الثاني أعال الرسل أو رسائل بولس الرسول والرسائل الجامعة وسفر الرؤيا البابا تواضرس الثاني The Egyptian Pope Tawadros II admits on page 233 that the Second Epistle to Peter was not written by Peter! It is a confession more dangerous than the confession of the Catholic Pope. 6.Hunting for the Original Word of God: the quest for the original text of the New Testament and the Qur'an in light of textual and historical criticism by Sami Ameri. I can send you many books in which Christian scholars admit to distortions, contradictions, errors, additions, etc.. Therefore, they are not the word of God. God is perfect, and the Bible is so full of errors and contradictions. Watch Al Fanous Al Muslim channel and Sheikh Othman bin Al Farouk, you will learn a lot from them. Hundreds of Christians convert to Islam on their channel

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

@@AmeliaAlHayek ​Well, these are some books by Christian scholars: 1.The Text of the New Testament: Its Transmission, Corruption, and Restoration by Bruce M. Metzger 2.Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why by Bart D. Ehrman 3.Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism by Elijah Hixson 4. Jesus of Nazareth by Pope Benedict XVI >> (In this book, the Pope confesses to distorting the Bible) Page 200 On pages 260-261, he confesses here in the conclusion of the Gospel of Mark, chapter 16, verses 19-20, he says that this conclusion is fake and was added to the text in the second century AD, and this is a confession from the head of the largest Catholic church, It relates to a long text in the New Testament. The Gospel of Mark is the oldest of the Gospels, and the oldest text of Mark is distorted, and this is a very important statement. 5. In the book: مفتاح العقد الجديد الجزء الثاني أعال الرسل أو رسائل بولس الرسول والرسائل الجامعة وسفر الرؤيا البابا تواضرس الثاني The Egyptian Pope Tawadros II admits on page 233 that the Second Epistle to Peter was not written by Peter! It is a confession more dangerous than the confession of the Catholic Pope. 6.Hunting for the Original Word of God: the quest for the original text of the New Testament and the Qur'an in light of textual and historical criticism by Sami Ameri. I can send you many books in which Christian scholars admit to distortions, contradictions, errors, additions, etc.. Therefore, they are not the word of God. God is perfect, and the Bible is so full of errors and contradictions. Watch The Muslim Lantern channel and Sheikh Othman bin Al Farouk, you will learn a lot from them. Hundreds of Christians convert to Islam on their channel

[@eyoo369]

@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص The original Quran manuscript doesn't exist either. It got burned down by Ibn Uthman and then recompiled centuries later into 10 qiraats. None of this is ordained by God, angel Gabriel or mohammed. You basically lost your ahrufs which was revealed to your prophet but you think you still got it in the form of Qiraats (all assumptions with 0 historical evidence). Also there are TONS of inconsistencies in-between each of the Qiraats. The Bible like the KJV version might have some wrong year counts which is a translation error but it never changes the meaning. But the Qiraats literally have complete change in pronouns which changes the entire perspective and meaning of the text.

[@eyoo369]

The word "impossible" does not exist in the realm of divinity and God. This further shows that Muslims believe in a limited constrained God rather than a superior one that can supersede the laws of physics, math and time and space.

[@historytheology]

@@eyoo369 so you believe that God died?

[@QuranandBible]

@@historytheology lol, even muzz...lims believe if their body died, they still alive and will be ask by angel...who is your gg,,odd? etc....see how easy to REFUTE YOU

[@eyoo369]

@@historytheology No smartass, God is eternal and cannot die. It was his human nature as flesh that died on that cross.. not his divine nature. You struggle to understand the Hypostatic Union and then falsely bait people with stupid questions like "so you believe that God died?" Stop humiliating yourself

[@historytheology]

@ err…(scratches head) how does it refutes my thesis?

[@siononerealapex2602]

@@historytheology the answer to your question is a question there you go : So you belive God does not have the power to be omnipresent and also divide or better said reveal himself in the human world while also existing in the Heavenly plane or better said all planes exisiting that we might not be even aware of ?

[@OvidiuBelciu]

1. Jesus Christ is Fully God Jesus is the eternal Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity, and shares fully in the divine nature. This is affirmed by the Orthodox Church in passages such as John 1:1 ("In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.") and John 10:30 ("I and the Father are one"). As God, Jesus is uncreated, co-eternal with the Father and the Holy Spirit. His divinity is not diminished by His humanity but is fully present in His person. 2. Jesus Christ is Fully Human Jesus became fully human through His Incarnation-God the Son took on human flesh through the Virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit. Orthodox Christians believe that Jesus was fully human in every way except for sin. He experienced hunger, thirst, pain, temptation, and death. His humanity is real, and He is true man, not a mere appearance of a man or a divine person acting in a human way. He was born as a true human baby, grew up, and underwent all the stages of human life. Passages such as Philippians 2:7-8 ("He emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.") highlight the depths of Jesus' humanity. 3. The Hypostatic Union This is the term used in Orthodox theology to describe the union of Jesus’ divine and human natures in one person (the "hypostasis" of Christ). Jesus is one person, not two separate persons, but in Him exist two complete natures-divine and human. The Council of Chalcedon (451 AD) affirmed this doctrine, declaring that Jesus is "truly God and truly man" and that His two natures are "without confusion, without change, without division, without separation." The union does not mean that the divine nature and human nature are mixed or altered. Instead, they remain distinct yet are united in the person of Jesus. This union is a mystery that transcends human understanding, but it is foundational to Orthodox Christology. 4. Implications of the Hypostatic Union Salvation: The Orthodox Church teaches that Jesus' full humanity and full divinity are essential for the salvation of humanity. Only as a true man could He fully identify with humanity and offer Himself as a perfect sacrifice. Only as God could He have the power to overcome death and sin. Theosis: Through the Hypostatic Union, Orthodox theology also emphasizes the possibility of theosis (deification). Because the Word became flesh, human nature can be united with God. Christ, through His humanity, becomes the bridge by which human beings can be restored to communion with God and partake in divine life. 5. Christ’s Role in Redemption The Orthodox Church teaches that Christ's humanity was necessary for Him to take on the burden of human sin, to suffer and die on the cross, and to rise again, thereby conquering death. His divinity ensures that His sacrifice was of infinite value, sufficient to reconcile all of creation with God. 6. Iconography In Orthodox iconography, the dual nature of Christ is often depicted with symbolic gestures. For example, the face of Christ in icons conveys both the majesty of the divine and the tenderness of the human. This visual representation is intended to help the faithful contemplate the mystery of the God-man.

[@j2shoes288]

salam, brother, so I have a question. When do they say, the codex sinaiticus is the oldest complete New Testament manuscript , what do they mean, if the verses are taken from later sources?

[@historytheology]

@@j2shoes288 wsalam. the first complete New Testament bound together. It also contains additional works that are not in the current canon. The verses were actually taken from earlier sources not later, both sinaiticus and vaticanus were primarily “Alexandrian” in their textual family., meaning their texts are the best attested among others

[@CynHicks]

You confine God to your own understanding. You don't actually believe that everything is possible with God.

[@historytheology]

@@CynHicks no i define god according to critical reading of the bible. With god everything is logically possible. But you define god as logically impossible.

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

But Jesus could not do much because he was a human being, and he was a woman's child. We understood as Muslims that God had no beginning, while Jesus had a birth date. God is a creator, Jesus is a creature, for Christians God is a creator and a creature at the same time. God dies and revives Himself even though He is dead! God is strong and weak at the same time. Your religion is based on contradictions, because your book is distorted. There are many books on that, but you ignore that

[@eyoo369]

@@historytheology The very fact you believe "God can't do X" shows you believe in a limited constrained God.

[@historytheology]

@@eyoo369 your very premise is flawed, which is why you think and conclude that way. Even your very Bible refutes you. God does not change. Mal 3:6. God does not become a man. For God to become a man does not befit His majesty. If You say that God becomes a man, Jesus, but this is not the doctrine of the Trinity. God the father does not become the man Jesus. And if God becomes the man Jesus, and he died at the cross, that means God died.

[@QuranandBible]

@@historytheology ACCORDING TO BIBLE Matthew 19:26: "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible" Luke 1:37: "For with God nothing will be impossible" Luke 18:27: "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God" Philippians 4:13: "I can do all things through him who" Luke 1:37-45 For with God nothing is ever impossible and no word from God shall be without power or impossible of fulfillment. Matthew 19:26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” this is your ALL....AAH Sūrah 6:101 Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have a son when He has no wife and He created all things? And He is Knowing of all things. REMARKS: The god of ISLAM, he cannot have a son unless he has a GIRLFRIEND. Allah himself questioned his INABILITY. 3:54 ALLL....AA..H THE BEST D.E.CI.E.V.E.R....IF S.A.T.A.N PRETENDS TO BE GG...O..DD that is the B.E.S.T. D.E.C.E.P.T,I,O.N

[@orandegellogaming4793]

““Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements-surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? “Or who shut in the sea with doors when it burst out from the womb, when I made clouds its garment and thick darkness its swaddling band, and prescribed limits for it and set bars and doors, and said, ‘Thus far shall you come, and no farther, and here shall your proud waves be stayed’? “Have you commanded the morning since your days began, and caused the dawn to know its place, that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth, and the wicked be shaken out of it? It is changed like clay under the seal, and its features stand out like a garment. From the wicked their light is withheld, and their uplifted arm is broken. “Have you entered into the springs of the sea, or walked in the recesses of the deep? Have the gates of death been revealed to you, or have you seen the gates of deep darkness? Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth? Declare, if you know all this.” ‭‭Job‬ ‭38‬:‭2‬-‭18‬

[@historytheology]

I’ve made a follow up video, quoting from top critical New Testament scholars why even Paul rejects the idea Jesus is Fully Human and Fully God.

[@kinyouz-nn4897]

These idiots are confusing god's nature and god's attributes

[@historytheology]

@@kinyouz-nn4897thanks for your comments. I wouldn’t go far as to call them idiots but perhaps they lack formal understanding. May Allah guide them

[@kinyouz-nn4897]

@historytheology ameen , iwas annoyed amd misspoke may allah forgive me for my indecency

[@dcrypt9107]

Bruh there is no way you said, 5000 manuscripts and fail to mention they were the same and not different or do you mean parts of the original ? can't even clarify your claims

[@jacobortega3424]

Imagine saying God cant do the impossible… okey so now we’re limiting God?

[@historytheology]

@@jacobortega3424 so using your logic god can decided not to exist?

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

There is no greater restriction than God becoming a human being, and this contradicts the wisdom of the Great and Powerful God. Watch Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya’s poem To the Christians. It will briefly explain to you that the attributes of the Creator in Christianity contradict the greatness of the Creator.

[@nadaiduit]

@@jacobortega3424 Yasir Qadhi: The Current Narratives of the Quran has Holes.

[@CynHicks]

​​@historytheology God can decide not to exist; that's a condition of being all powerful. YOU can't not exist; God can. If not God couldn't create something from nothing, friend. When God chose to exist infinite reality began. God IS the beginning and the end. God wills all things. Using your rationale is easy to dismiss God from existence at all. Do you really think that God can't choose to exists?

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

​@@nadaiduit Yasir Qadhi does not know the Islamic monotheism that Muslim children know, Learn from trustworthy people.

[@phillipmakungu7775]

If he was born out of Mary, who is he? And if Mary's pregnancy was of the Holy Spirit (no human sperms), who was he? God did the impossible. So your logic is logical.

[@historytheology]

@@phillipmakungu7775 so using your logic, Adam is a greater God than Jesus since Adam had no human sperm and eggs)

[@gamerjj777]

​@historytheology that's worst arguemnt by zakir naik. When noone was there God made Adam. When there were hundreds of people why did God made Mary conceive Jesus Christ? That point u have to think.

[@ForTheGloryOfCHRIST]

​@@historytheologyhow else was Adam being the first human supposed be made 🤦🏻 there's a reason why jesus was born of a virgin

[@eyoo369]

@@historytheology Brother how dumb are you? Did you really think Jesus claimed his divinity purely because of the Immaculate conception? Jesus claimed his divine authority when he died on that cross and resurrected after 3 days.

[@ronlad]

​@@historytheologyNo one said adam is greater 😂

[@AP.i3]

Jesus is fully man and fully God scriptures reveal that 😅

[@historytheology]

no it didn’t

[@thanushk]

​@@historytheology It did . But you are still ignorant of the fact

[@messibooks6530]

@@AP.i3 which scriptures? Please share

[@nadaiduit]

​@@messibooks6530also in your scripture Q3:45

[@nadaiduit]

@@messibooks6530 [John 1:1] "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." The theme of the Gospel of John is the revelation that the Lord Jesus is God.

[@dcrypt9107]

bro said 2 points and brought 4 T-T hahahaha

[@messibooks6530]

Jesus Christ was not 100% human, he had a form of a human.

[@historytheology]

@@messibooks6530 that’s not what the book says

[@AP.i3]

He was fully god and fully human, my friend. God bless

[@messibooks6530]

@@historytheology which particular verses gives you those percentages? Please share

[@messibooks6530]

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the very form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very form of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross! Jesus Christ was 100% God who appeared in the physical with a body form of a human

[@messibooks6530]

100% human is a seed of Adam

[@gamerjj777]

11:03 no one believes prophets!don't sin.

[@historytheology]

@@gamerjj777 so according to you Jesus sin?

[@gamerjj777]

@@historytheology nope. He is God.

[@historytheology]

@@gamerjj777 no, Jesus was born, so he was a human. Can God be born?

[@gamerjj777]

@@historytheology yes.

[@historytheology]

@ bring one evidence from the Bible that states God can be born? In fact Malachi 3:6 God does not change. So God will remain God, He does not become a human

[@MahdiHassanOsman]

MashAllah keep up the content!

[@Caffer9286]

Dawah brain does not compute

[@historytheology]

@@Caffer9286 my brain will only compute sense, not non-sense

[@Caffer9286]

@historytheology listening to Christian apologetics like God Logic, Anthony Rogers, etc talk to Muslims and about the non sensical koran brought me to faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@fb.gg.ElDelincuente]

after selay aleykum i understand why your title is bs haha

[@robertpearson835]

He is God,except it

[@historytheology]

@@robertpearson835 the book says he is also human

[@jacobortega3424]

Accept*

[@zeek6510]

​@historytheology thanks for just refuting yourself pagan

[@historytheology]

@@zeek6510 prove your claim. In fact, being God and human at the same time is an impossibility, which actually supports my video. When people resort to name calling, they do that because they know that they have no strong argument to support their beliefs yet want to play the emotional card as a means of justifying their beliefs.

[@williecutter5531]

Let’s get you on with sam shamoun and see if you can’t get an explanation you can understand.

[@dcrypt9107]

bro we see you look into your Uthman Dawah Notes hahahahahaahahahahahahaha , please this is a weak claim made by you ya Akhi, go tell that to Sam Shamoun if you so confident

[@kinyouz-nn4897]

Scholahs like sam shamshon are so stweng fr even thmslfs

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

My brother, you will not find a text in the Bible that says that Jesus is God or that we should ever worship him. There are many texts that prove that Jesus was a prophet in the Bible, But Christians ignore the texts that prove that Jesus was a prophet such as: Mark 6:4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee. Luke 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. Acts 13:23 (KJV) Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus: 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus John 13:31 KJV Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. John 6:14 KJV Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world. Acts 13:30 (KJV) But God raised him from the dead: Mark 13:32 (KJV) But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Matthew 26:36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. Mark 11:12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: Luke 24:19 KJV And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people John 4:19 KJV The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. John 11:35 (KJV) Jesus wept. John 4:21 (KJV) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Luke 11:2 (KJV) And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Luke 2:21 KJV And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. Luke 2:14 KJV Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men in whom he is well pleased. Luke 11:2 (KJV) And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Matthew 21:19 KJV And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. Luke 2:27 KJV And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law Matthew 26:39 After walking a little farther away from them, Jesus fell to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, do not give me this cup of suffering. But do what you want, not what I want.” There are many texts that deny the divinity of Jesus and prove that he was a weak human being who ate, went hungry, breastfed with milk, was cared for by his mother, and asked for help from God in heaven. Indeed, many texts say that he is a prophet, and those who know him say that he is a prophet, etc. Many of these texts I knew from the dialogues of Muslim preachers such as Sheikh Othman bin Al-Farouq and The Muslim Lantern and Sh. Ibn Hazm .

[@historytheology]

@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص thank you for sharing these valuable passages that provides proof against the divinity of Jesus as God.

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

@@historytheology My brother, I wrote another comment in which there are many references in comparative religions that are very important. Watch them and copy the references you have into your computer notebook.

[@historytheology]

@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص thank you for your efforts. may Allah reward you

[@nadaiduit]

@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص why lantern and the likes refused to debate with CP?

[@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص]

@@nadaiduit You may not know that I am an Arab. I watched the Christian princess lie a lot on his channel, so no one deserves to discuss liars. But I remember Sheikh Othman asked the Christian princess to come to him and debate him, but she was still hiding behind the keyboard. He is an unknown character and will remain so.