Why Juan Soto's $765 Million Contract is a BAD Deal

[@robertl3592]

Break it down, and it's simple. We compare him to Ohtani. He doesn't hit better, he doesn't field better, he doesn't run as well, he doesn't pitch and he is not as big of an international star. He's also not a team player. This was a heist by Boras and client. Best of luck Mets this will not age well

[@JoseTheRover]

? Ohtani doesn’t field.

[@podcat0185]

Mets gonna Mets 🤣

[@ZZSmithReal]

Ohtani is 4 years older. And for a guy who's not a team player winning seems to follow him around.

[@arielbatista7ify]

But he is younger and will work for 5 years more

[@Metskins_Poker]

​@justadude2800 he hits better in the regular season in every way shape and form. Higher career average, obp and ops

[@sbn1124]

Soto needs to do what he can't ‐‐hit 320, hit 55 home runs, steal 50 bases, and be a sterling outfielder. Watch this.

[@zrpggamer]

Soto isn't even worth 600.

[@bluechelo3968]

So true

[@arielbatista7ify]

But will make 800 instead

[@Wolverine8091]

You are worth every dollar some else is willing to pay

[@Metskins_Poker]

You right. He's worth a cool billion

[@RedHorseAdventures]

He’s worth as much as someone is willing to pay, so you’re wrong, he is worth more.

[@Reforger13]

These people defending this contract just can’t admit this is an overpay and a bad contract and it’s so funny😂😂. Steve Cohan was just throwing money at the wall to try and make a WS stick and it’s not gonna work

[@neroresurrected]

Agreed. Try convincing Met fans and Soto fanboys of this. I guaranteed you if the Yankees had signed him all of those people would be accusing the Yankees of what Mets just did. Cohen is doing his best George Steinbrenner impression he thinks it will bring him and the Met fanbase a WS in an incredibly stacked NL led by the Dodgers. Cohen has put a world of pressure on that team to deliver a WS Trophy within the next 5 seasons.

[@richurro20]

805 million to a guy who has never won an MVP nor even a Gold Glove is mind blowingly laughable but its the Mets so i dont blame that franchise being this desperate.

[@GeneralHAWXX]

Mets owners net worth is $19 billion. Y’all think they give a dam paying a player we think is overpaid? 😂

[@inathoiehohs8551]

Even billionaires don't want to lose money in business.

[@Juan_rivera]

​@inathoiehohs8551 he's wants to win a chip

[@brooklynknightss]

@inathoiehohs8551 Uncle steve is a different animal!!! He wants to win at all cost!! Look at his art collection, look what he does at auctions! He buys paintings for 100 200 million he wants to win

[@eddief9254]

I'm sure he will make a profit from Soto, with ticket sales merchandise etc etc. I doubt Mets win a WS

[@openwheelracing88]

Mets owner is no more richer than the Dodgers owner. Dodger would not do such foolish action. Mets owner is looking to strike gold soon and he does not care about Mets future.

[@Dempsey222]

Mets are morons paying this guy 51 million dollars a year for 15 years. This contract will be an example of what not to do for teams in MLB.

[@danstune]

You are absolutely right. This deal with Soto is ridiculously high! He does not compare to S.O. and should not exceed his deal with the Dodgers.

[@paulvon2378]

dumb deal. Mets are famous for deals like this.

[@jordansoviet23]

Especially since 2021 (Verlander and Scherzer deals with Yankee discards)

[@BKDBut]

​@@jordansoviet23what?

[@CLOSERBDZ]

My man, I have to day, this is a very well informed video, better than ESPN AND FOX... You are soo underrated my man, subscribed and I wish U the best🎉

[@chrisnalina1755]

He has a lifetime batting average of .285 and has hit more than 35 homeruns only once and it was this past year. I as a Yankee fan say good riddance to him.

[@K-DUBYA]

Same. I’m relieved they didn’t lock him up $760m @ 16 years that would’ve screwed us for years not able to make any moves or trade him because who wants that contract. If it was a shorter contract 6 years for much less then it might’ve worked out ok but now at least we are sorting the pitching issues and hopefully the fielding and batting holes get plugged.

[@acandela1294]

Yeah but for the Mets they can keep paying for other players. Yankees of old would have eaten the contracts just like they did with ellsbury while Mets of old would be stuck with a Jason Bay. Today the roles have flipped. Cohen isn't overpaying for a good player that has mid branding. He's paying for one of the only players who will give you elite playoff production no matter what

[@mrearlygold]

My prediction is in 3 years Soto never hits 40 hr's a year again and the mets by year 5 are just wishing they could dump him on the Yankees who after winning 2 consecutive world series are not interested. I bet 1 USD on that. Any takers? a buck.

[@jordansoviet23]

The Yankees are replenishing their farm system and even got more international money for signing players too. What happened to the Yankees in 1920 will never repeat in the present setting for the Mets. I say this because there are more wiser front offices by other teams than in 1920. Back then there's no player draft and a team with deep pockets can get the best players to sign at will. Now the Mets has to pony up or lose the race in NL against the Dodgers. The Dodgers are like the late 90s Yankees in my opinion.

[@BKDBut]

​@@jordansoviet23the Yankees farm is terrible and they just traded even more away. What are you talking about "replenishing"

[@BKDBut]

Put money on that. You'll lose it

[@mikesirman3148]

Would def take that bet

[@BKDBut]

@@mikesirman3148 You're a very mad Yankee fan. Judge will never win anything. Yankees still aren't winning anything. Second rate NY team. Free agents want to come to the Mets.

[@GrahamCStrouse]

My guess is that Bobby Bonilla Day is he renamed Juan Soto Day in the not-too-distant future.

[@twmccoy100]

Yeah, no kidding. There is just NO WAY this contract ages well. In fact, I think it'll become one of the biggest disasters in professional sports history.

[@koningklootzak7788]

The ego of spending by Cohen and the ego of going after money by Soto matched very well. The funny thing is, this isn't a win-win situation at all. They'll both lose eventually in a long run and they couldn't see it through.

[@youcantcme2]

Wipe your tesrs

[@encinobalboa]

New York is a failed sports town.

[@vernpascal1531]

He will probably struggle early on, and end up .260 to.280-early 30's in homers maybe 85-90 RBI's. Very good, but hardly great.

[@jordansoviet23]

Just look at Verlander and Scherzer deals that the Mets gave both of them didn't worked out.

[@DIEHARD1010]

@@jordansoviet23 and we turned into prospects which now ranks the Mets 15th

[@JulioCésarYtb]

Only 2 kind of people can say that this is not a terrible deal; Mets fans(i like the Mets) & those with no baseball knowledge. He arguably deserves 51MM now, but no way he is going to produce anything close to that in 6 years+.

[@K-DUBYA]

Yes finally someone else who gets it!!! The Mets are paying for 26 year old Soto. That’s what makes it a bad deal being for so long. At 38 years old he will be making 26 year old Soto money. No way he’s better at 38 than he is now. Any player getting contracts longer than 8 years is insane. The Yankees wanting him for another year longer at 16 years is even more insane. I’m a Yankees fan and when I saw they went to $760 @ 16 years I thought thank god he didn’t sign because that’s absolutely going to back the team into a corner and not be able to do any other moves because they don’t have Cohen money. I still like Soto. I’m not made he left but I would’ve been mad if he stayed with that Yankee offer 😂😅

[@Justin-ei1qf]

I mean in 6 years he will be 32.. id say for 8 or 9 years hell be producing at a high level, conservatively, his approach is going to age extremely well. Similar to big papi, hes very capable of putting up ridiculous seasons into his late 30s, unlike a lot of players.

[@JulioCésarYtb]

@@Justin-ei1qf you're just being extremely optimistic, he's already overweight, slow, bad defense, never won an MVP o ROY, hit 40+ because of Yankee Stadium & you think he's going to put up good numbers at 35+ yrs old.......?

[@qvash8517]

If Mets want a bad investment, you go Mets

[@MichaelMunch-x3o]

This better not end up like the last few players Cohen signed to an amount like that.

[@RedHorseAdventures]

Since the day Juan Soto signed with the Mets, Steve Cohen has made $211,000,000 in the stock market. At this rate, Soto will be paid off in 2-1/2 weeks.

[@mwood1012]

That's utter nonsense. Steven Cohen wouldn't be a billionaire if he ran one business by siphoning operating cost from another. That's just bad business & for what? All the owners in MLB are billionaires whose business acumen long predates their ownership & in theory, all are capable of doing the same thing, but if the team solvency cannot be sustained on its own earning potential, then it's not a profitable investment, the Mets franchise itself would be a drain on his portfolio & thus, he would be a fool to keep the team at all. Being rich doesn't make the team better unless owning the team makes the owner richer. That's one of, if not the stupidest remark I have seen.

[@RedHorseAdventures]

@ well Mr. Utter nonsense, Cohen has clearly stated in numerous interviews that he did not buy the Mets for profit so…your post is utterly misinformed. Google what I said and disprove what I said. And then reread your clueless post and HONESTLY reevaluate the dumbest post you’ve ever read. If yours doesn’t instantly come in first place, you’re lying to yourself.

[@zacho1333]

@@mwood1012except cohen has been adamant that the Mets is not a business venture for him, he wants to win

[@billhayes3219]

@@mwood1012 He's a billionaire because he's a fucking criminal. Go read the New Yorker and tell me he doesn't belong in prison. And I'm a stupid Mets fan.

[@thelawnmewer]

@@mwood1012it’s not a dumb remark. Steve cohen has made it clear that he doesn’t view the Mets as a business opportunity for him, he views it as philanthropy. He is willing to spend big money when necessary to help the Mets. Of course he’d prefer to make money back, which he will, but he is not looking to take in huge profits off of this team. I have the numbers to back it up if you don’t believe me, but go look it up yourself.

[@sw33t1337]

so if the richest owner in baseball didn't care about spending to win a world series then why didn't he throw money at Ohtani instead of giving Soto more? 😂😂

[@unrevoked7137]

for a variety of reasons.... Thats not how baseball works Ohtani didnt join the mets purely because we didnt throw money at him, you gotta understand other factors

[@richboy7414]

OTONI couldn't even make the playoff with the ANGELS, he only did when he joined the DODGERS SUPER TEAM !

[@dannythomas9623]

Huh

[@Userrrtube]

A 300 M DH with 0 defense,he can't pitch,he can't steal bases , with no marketing pull whatsoever! Acuña and Tatis are bigger stars .... Got 800 M ?!💀💀💀 That's a desperation move because they got rejected by yamamoto and ohtani! Obviously this contract could go down as the worst in history! And you check his offensive Numbers 💀💀💀

[@melvinespinal1]

Did you buy an Ohtani,/tatis/acuña jersey or a ticket to see him at the stadium? I just purchased two jerseys and a half-season pass, so some of my other friends did too. This is an entertainment business

[@neorock6135]

🤣😂You sound butt hurt AF. It's couch cushion money for Cohen. He made 3/4 of a billion dollars just in the last 6 months alone outside of the Mets. The Mets are a hobby for him, he's the new George Streinbrenner & will keep gobbling up stars, money is irrelevant for him. Comparing Tatis is beyond laughable🤣😂 Tatis has NOT one season with an OBP of over .400 while Soto has NEVER had an .OBP under .400. Tatis strikes out ~3 times to every walk while Soto has had more walks than K's every season but his first 2. Soto is one of ONLY 6 players in MLB history to reach 200 HR at age 26. Others include the likes of Mickey Mantle. That's the company he is in. And like the greats when it counts most, the postseason, he excels unlike the likes of Judge who slumped again. Acuna is more comparable but still only has 2 seasons with an OBP over .400. Acuna also gets hurt a lot while Soto is one of the least prone to injury in all of MLB. But my dude you should contact the Red Sox & Yankees, tell them you know better than their front offices, data teams, GMs & Owners, as they also offered Soto at least $700 mil. They must love to throw money away🤣

[@Metskins_Poker]

Were never rejected by ohtani but cool story bro. And soto has been the #1 target for 4 years since Cohen took over. Also, cool story bro. Let us know you've never heard of baseball

[@TheDondajonhon46]

@@Userrrtube Do you even know what baseball is?

[@encinobalboa]

Career averages are .285/25/74. He does not have a league MVP. He is not elite.

[@IsThisThePrizeIveWaitedFor]

I wanted the Dodgers to bid on him to drive up his price, but I didn’t want them to actually get him 😊

[@neorock6135]

*Steve Cohen made 3/4 of a billion $ in the last 6 months alone outside the Mets. That's almost the enirety of Soto's contract * Mets payroll is a tiny slice of a small corner on Cohen's balance sheet. Cohen plans to transform the area around Citifield & spend as much as needed to turn the Mets into a top 5 team not just for one yr but the long term. He traded Scherzer & Verlander but eat most of their contracts to get prospects back & with other moves, the Mets have a great minor league reservoir now. We have new George Streinbrenner in NY but he runs the other team. Just you wait!

[@mondoseguendo6113]

And it took George getting suspended for the Yanks to become a dynasty in the second half of the 1990s.

[@mikesirman3148]

Yeah, but it's the Mets were talking about

[@andrewfeldt3774]

Mets will choke like they always do. Hope Mets enjoy the equivalent of Stanton contract. Happy Yankees didnt pick up this contact.

[@acandela1294]

George would meddle. Cohen believes in letting his President and GM do their thing. Cohen woos players but he allows his team to do what they want. As for the Stanton thing, these guys are very different players. Cano would be a better comp.

[@scsmith4604]

@@mondoseguendo6113 Steinbrenner or Costanza?

[@CDBookManGaming]

I love what constitutes "generational" in sports, especially baseball, today. He's a lefty in a league where lefty pitching is like finding a pot of gold in your backyard and he won a batting title on a last place team during a 60 game season no one watched. Baseball is more than hitting homeruns, which he did 40 times in one season: his walk season...in Yankee Stadium. He watches his doubles, he can't run, he can't field, and he's still virtually a .280 hitter as a lefty in a right hand dominant league. Let's see how often he surpasses 150 games from next season on with this contract.

[@HaloToday]

When anyone is buying something the value is in the eye of the beholder. If Soto helps bring a World Series win within the near future then this was totally worth it for Cohen. The great thing about us fans is that we get to sit back and watch what happens and see a great story unfold with none of the risks involved in this high stakes game (money wise). I respect any owner of a sports team that is willing to go above and beyond to bring w championship home for their team, if all sports teams ran a team like Cohen does that would make any league really exciting to watch.

[@miguel.ledesmaledesma1790]

❤👍🏾

[@gregoryfarshtey6856]

Hard to win a WS with that pitching staff.

[@encinobalboa]

Juan did not bring a WS to 2022 Padres or 2024 Yankees and both had better rosters than 2025 Mets.

[@unrevoked7137]

@@gregoryfarshtey6856ehhhh mets will figure it out hopefully

[@illtakethebox]

Dodger's investing that deferred money is just insane... what other teams are doing the same? Chess not checkers

[@lordmegatron8444]

Things to factor. 1 Cohen and Stearns are not just owner, GM they are also Met fans. Sterns has already shown that he can draft and find value where most dont ( see Brewers). Cohen has more money than anyone else in mlb by a factor of 3. He doesnt care if the mets turn a profit( 393 million last year), he wants a WS. The money spent on Soto will not preclude the Mets from doing anything. Overpay's become an issue when you cant do anything else. Not whats happening here.

[@JohnSmith-qt2ii]

Excellent points. It’s a terrible business contract but you are right. It’s worth it to Cohen who is a fan owner with basically unlimited financial resources.

[@floridasportsworld]

🤣🤣 Met's owner is worth almost $20 BILLION DOLLARS! It's a GREAT DEAL! Fans said that Bryce Harpers contract was a bad deal, they said Mookie Betts contract was a bad deal, they said Alex Rodriguez contract was a bad deal, they said Manny Machado got a bad deal etc. etc. etc. etc. Juan Soto is not 30 or 33 yrs old, hes 26yrs old and in his PRIME, only going to get better. The Mets are the future of the National league with him, their catcher, third baseman, Francisco Lindor, might bring back the 1st baseman, they are loaded with pitching prospects, they have a solid staff with Sangai at the top and will continue to spend money. NEVER Listen to these media guys because when the day comes that the Mets win the world series they will not even mention how wrong they were from the start and have NO FORESIGHT!

[@BKDBut]

Wow. Lots of people here that are jealous Soto isnt on their team. Sorry, guys

[@unrevoked7137]

Mets fan here, I think this soto signing is a wake up call for all baseball fans to realize that price is not dependant on how good a player is exactly. Yes Ohtani and Judge are arguably better than Soto, but why does it matter that Cohen paid more for Soto? He is worth 20$ Billion. He has no issue paying that much and the price of Ohtani doesnt affect him at all. He said he was going to try and get Soto at any cost I was expecting this video to have valid points but like 70% of the video barely really talked about Soto. Who cares if he overpaid, he has the money to overbid the Yankees and he succeeded in that. And yes he is a poor defense but im sure the mets can work around that. DH him maybe. But really the whole video all you're saying is the facts and not giving actual points. And if Yankees signed Soto instead no Yankee fan wouldve said hes overpaid lets be honest 😅 Steve Cohen isnt losing anything from this Soto deal

[@MarkJoseph81]

No no no, Scott Boras is the SECOND most hated man in Baseball. Manfred is number 1 most hated.

[@mikechan2942]

lol many players can hit more than 41 HRs and over 0.280, now everyone will ask for 50 mil a season

[@BKDBut]

If they do that and have the eye he does and hits FA at 25, sure. Pay em.

[@felmin809]

Look at his on-base

[@thomas2fly]

Calling cohen dumb a 20 billion dollar man is wild.

[@chairun75]

Cohen makes 50 mill a week.

[@Uns_Maps_8]

Compared to Ohtani he should be paid less. Or Ohtani should re-negotiate his contract. But generally speaking, most players with mega deals are overpaid, especially because after the deal is closed they stop trying and get quietly into the sunset.

[@mazhar1980]

Steve Cohen's Point72 hedge fund has $26B AUM so even being conservative that's $520M just in mgmt fees before you get to $1 of the % profit. So he'll spend 100% or even more of the Mets revenue on payroll, which as of 2023 was around ~$350M. They're probably the only team in MLB that doesn't live out of its take in terms of revenue. What a hell of a thing to be able to do.

[@SLSMe]

I didn’t know that but I thank you for the explanation. That is a great point

[@evilzilla4053]

Mets profit was 393 million 2023

[@AztecRay]

Mets fans think they are getting Jesus himself 😂. Soto never even won an MVP. And guess what. He won't. Ohtani got that locked up for 8 years

[@Metskins_Poker]

Awwww....keep them tears coming

[@TheDondajonhon46]

Soto still has generational hitting numbers and he's a clutch playoff performer. Keep crying

[@RedHorseAdventures]

@@AztecRay good luck with that shoulder that is falling off him in one season 😂

[@DIEHARD1010]

This might age well

[@keysersoze503]

Man those grapes are sour!

[@Jamax99Jetfan]

Rumor is that hes 3 years older then whats on hes birth Cert. Lol

[@boogiedownkid5465]

Yeah, sure. It’s not like MLB personnel don’t scrutinize these kinds of things before investing tons of money into these players’ development and salary.

[@dannythomas9623]

Racist 😂

[@scsmith4604]

I am happy to hear that the Royals actually checked in on him. Imagine Soto and Witt Jr. in the same lineup. That would be a lot of fun to watch.

[@TK-mf5in]

Bad for who? You guys aren’t looking at it like the guy writing the checks is. This is about market share. Judge the contract on that

[@marquisewright7229]

Ohtani made $100 million from endorsements,this season and he'll probably make $1 billion or 2 off the field.

[@robertwaller-mc1pb]

News flash, ALL entertainers and athletes are over paid 😂

[@marcom.7995]

Not Overpaid ... And he does not have to be an Othani ...For us to win!

[@daggerthree]

I doubt the Mets will win the NL East even after this insane signing. On paper I still like the Phillies and Braves more.

[@Metskins_Poker]

Lmfao. Phillies will be lucky to get 3rd place. They are atrociously bad. But keep them tears flowing. And all of vegas already knows the mets are better than the braves and they aren't done signing players yet

[@koningklootzak7788]

Yeah, that's something I look forward to see in 2025. Dodgers going to postseason, but not Mets. 😂 Then Soto might start wanting for a trade.😂

[@Metskins_Poker]

@koningklootzak7788 awwww...keep crying and saying the dumbest things imaginable

[@RedHorseAdventures]

The Mets beat those teams you mentioned and they had less…

[@paulzoom489]

the money only matters if it stops the team from spending elsewhere...it will not Cohen has had the highest payroll since he bought the team he is truly a fan and wants what is best for the Mets, with Stearns there to guide him Mets will continue to add the pieces they need.

[@richboy7414]

THAT 221/8 YEAR contract, FRIED SIGNED is the worst in baseball for an injury-prone pitcher, ask the great Mike Francesa. Do a video on that!

[@eile4219]

It’s overpaid, but the owner is not trying to make money. He is ok to lose money to win, so it’s ok

[@comala27]

Man, this contract is going to bite them in the ass..

[@inathoiehohs8551]

For $2 million you get Ohtani hitting and pitching all of 2025 season OR For $2 million and you get ONE Soto homerun in 2025.

[@connerschultz4118]

We’ll see in 2025 but I feel like everyone is just mad he went to the mets

[@Flash_1689]

Mets had the highest payroll in the league in 2023 and they didnt even make the playoffs. Spending money doesn't guarantee shit. 😂😭😭😭

[@wyvac]

Nothing is an overpay for Cohen

[@gabrielv.2647]

I keep hearing all these experts, "He hasnt even entered his prime yet, "he is only 26", Yeah hasn't entred his prime yet but his defense, his arm, and his speed are all on the decline, he is no 5 tool player. Thats why this will go down as the worst deal in the history of sports.

[@wonderemporium6094]

Nelson Cruz, Ortiz, JD Martinez to name a few. All guys who’s played well into their 30s/40s and were great DH. I don’t get why you don’t think Soto will do this exactly and honestly probably better than all 3 of them. None of this hate was around last season people are so stupid.

[@gabrielv.2647]

@wonderemporium6094 people are stupid? Right the genius comparing different players, situations, and even teams as well the most important the ability to play the game, height, weight, genetics/genes. If I recall JD Martinez, and Nelson Cruz where not on the decline as 26 year olds like Soto is if you want to compare There is no stupid person in my opinion then the one who payed Soto all this money so your right lol, it will go down as one of the worst contracts in the history of sports, not just baseball. According to baseball America and most scouts in baseball. Soto is an avg fielder, avg glove, avg speed, avg arm, elite hitter, elite power hitter. 2 tool player paying him like he is a 5 tool player, thats to your point stupid.

[@dannythomas9623]

Whatever you say

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

It's only a bad deal when your owner that is worth $21 billion dollars doesn't want to spend money on the team anymore.

[@Mr99Burns]

Let’s Go Mets. What a great signing !!!

[@K-DUBYA]

The Mets are paying for 26 year old Soto. That’s what makes it a bad deal being for so long. At 38 years old he will be making 26 year old Soto money. No way he’s better at 38 than he is now. Any player getting contracts longer than 8 years is insane. The Yankees wanting him for another year longer at 16 years is even more insane.

[@whoishec7615]

Barry bonds was better at 40 than 26 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rjm22nd]

@@whoishec7615 Of course, steroids is a helluva wonder drug

[@etamommy]

@@whoishec7615though he had a bit of help

[@PolinGuira]

STOP , THE HATE IN MLB ALL PLAYER ARE OVERPAY

[@eddiem.488]

If he were on The Yankees he would be the best investment in baseball.

[@McCourt.]

Or Dodgers

[@lordquastheonly]

No its still a bad contract regardless of the team because he’s production dosent match any of the top 5 players in the league he’s just very good at hitting the ball but he’s bad at defense

[@dannythomas9623]

@@lordquastheonlyhe’s a top 5 hitter

[@af9952]

In the first year after Shohei Ohtani signed a big contract with the Dodgers, he set a personal record in history and won the world championship. I don’t know what kind of historical records Soto, who signed a big contract with the Mets in the next year, can set. Let’s wait and see if he can help the Mets win the world championship in the first year after joining.

[@joshuawheelock8874]

You might want to check his hr numbers. You are acting like he is an elite power hitter. The hr derby is irrelevant

[@BKDBut]

Just checked. He just hit 41 as a 25 year old

[@joshuawheelock8874]

@BKDBut topped 40 hrs 1 time in 7 mlb seasons batting next to judge with 81 games in yankee stadium with a ridiculously short porch in right. If you think that is elite power, you are clueless

[@BKDBut]

@@joshuawheelock8874 Statcast projected he would have hit 46 out last year if he played all games in Citi Field last year He has one of the highest % of no noubters 2 of his best seasons he had Howie Kendrick/Asdrubal Cabrera and Xander Bogaerts "protecting" him You are wrong. He has elite power and it's just getting better

[@CathySchierbaum]

ALL THESE PLAYERS ARE OVERPAID

[@mondoseguendo6113]

Not really. They generate a whole lot more than they are being paid.

[@Revenant36]

Ohtani makes 2 million a year and makes the dodgers 120 million per year. Criminally underpaid.

[@unrevoked7137]

how can they be overpaid when cohen is 20 billion worth

[@TripleR-kb6uc]

@@mondoseguendo6113 They play children’s games for a living and suckers idolize them for it. They generate nothing but distraction and more billions for the 1%.

[@reynold2]

No one said anything about Ohtani's $700M, now, a %65M extra to Soto and everybody is upset, #envy.

[@Revenant36]

Not upset… everybody is laughing. You’re paying a guy who can only hit (still worse than Ohtani, btw) 65 million more than Shohei Ohtani. What a horrendous deal lmao

[@unrevoked7137]

@@Revenant36I dont understand how it can be a horrible deal when Steve Cohen has like infinite money, what do the mets lose from this?

[@jasongoldberg4474]

@@unrevoked7137I agree man, he’s the only owner who can make that deal and never sweat it no matter what’s to come.

[@jasongoldberg4474]

@@unrevoked7137…only thing that could be lost is if his spending contributes eventually to a salary cap and takes away that huge advantage.

[@user-Ic7hx7wd9c]

Ohtani is defer

[@jerrytang3146]

Yankees fan here. I don't care either. LOL

[@DanSHenry]

amazing breakdown, wasnt aware of the PV/escrow/investment details of ohtanis contract which make this seem like an even bigger blunder by the Mets. Surely the yankees contract had deferred money and that was probably the real item that moved the needle towards the Mets rather than the extra year and 5M

[@Metskins_Poker]

Yankees had the extra year. Not the mets

[@jordansoviet23]

​@@Metskins_Pokeralso the Yankees offered Judge less money 360 million dollars than what the SF Giants offered at 412 million dollars two years ago. Most of the time the Yankees are used only as leverage point for maximum contract by FAs the past ten years.

[@steveseigel1595]

It'll work out better for the Yankees NOT getting him over GETTING him.

[@frankwite81]

Im sorry and im happy for Soyo..buy objectively speaking, this was a Bad deal for the Mets

[@ricktheruler4170]

No baseball player is worth that amount of money this hits the fans trying to watch a game

[@tee-fr9kg]

I'm fan of baseball. This is how simple it is...supply and demand. Soto is worth $765 mil. to Steve Cohen. Who cares if he is overpaid or underpaid, he took the bag. That's what all athletes should do for themselves and their family. Their opportunities are rare and they should absolutely take advantage of it. It's the talking heads landing big $ contracts to jab about someone else that gets me😂

[@JohnSmith-qt2ii]

You are essentially right, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a bad contract from a purely business standpoint. It’s just that Cohen is running the team as a fan and his pockets are so deep that he just dgaf. I’m sure even Cohen would admit in private that it’s a massive overpay, but it’s worth it to him personally.

[@tee-fr9kg]

@JohnSmith-qt2ii sometimes the strategy could be by demoralizing your competitors can help. If the " superstars" on the other feels slighted by their ownership, that could affect the whole team and spiral downwards.

[@brooklynreptiles426]

Look at all the poors in the comment section 😂😂😂. Celebrate fellow Mets fans this money talk is beneath us.

[@phillysoldier]

Imagine spending almost 800m on a 30 year old dh

[@keysersoze503]

Imagine not even knowing the age of the player you're talking about.

[@mirikaku5811]

@@keysersoze503maybe he does…😂

[@phillysoldier]

​@@keysersoze503 no shot soto is 26

[@keysersoze503]

@phillysoldier proof?

[@ricky5954]

@@keysersoze503 do you know how to google ?

[@josephvento]

the most over-rated player in baseball, is now the most over paid player in baseball...the Mets will live to regret this insanity.

[@RichWiands]

Nobody knows for sure, but there's a chance that 5 or 10 years down the road people will look back and say the Yanks played the Mets. And lets face it, the Mets have been a second rate franchise for their 60+ years. And Cohen has a pretty bad track record in his few years as owner.

[@jordansoviet23]

Which is way worse than George Steinbrenner went through for his first years as the owner of the Yankees. Imagine Cohen overpaid two aging pitchers the past three years and then didn't worked out. The funny thing is he signs that the Yankees let go and never worked out as well. If someone uses a stuff and never worked out then why you have to buy or acquire the same stuff and get disappointed when they don't work out??

[@Killabees25]

Bla bla bla. Beers 20 dollars with or without him. This deal is better than Arod’s 252m 24 years ago..

[@TropicLightning-]

Yankees will be better. Thank you Soto…👍⚾️

[@DAGenao]

I'm a big fan of Juan Soto, but I have to agree that he's being waaaayyyy overpaid. Shohei Ohtani is a better overall player and should have the all-time salary record. This said, Ohtani's $700M contract is also too much money. Players' salaries are definitely getting out of hand, and we the fans have to pay the price with very expensive tickets. That's why I'm boycotting sports and prefer to watch it on TV.

[@mirikaku5811]

Why? Ohtanis salary isn’t paid by the Dodgers,it’s paid by the Japanese advertising who made Dodgers 120M net income this year and already signed 700M multi years contract! Ohtani plays for free and Dodgers ontop of that gets windfall revenues bigger than Ohtanis remuneration how crazy great contract is that?!?

[@user-Ic7hx7wd9c]

Otani deal is defer

[@upcomingexpat]

Steve Cohen is worth $21 billion dollars. We are presently in a bull market. Additionally, he wants to build the area around Citi Field, which is a dump. Yes, it's an overpay for the 3rd best player in baseball who is younger than the two best. If this was a mid-market team like Texas, when ARod was their this WOULD be an issue. It's a major market team with the wealthiest owner in MLB. Lastly, like Rich Eisen said so eloquently, he's an overpay for all the teams pursuing him. It's not for the team who signed him.

[@mwood1012]

I dispute any claim that Juan Soto was ever the BEST player in MLB. He is without a doubt, ONE of the best HITTERS, but in every other facet of the game he ranks in the middle of the pack & I see no evidence of improvement since the Nats won the WS. He didn't make San Diego a better team, it's debatable whether the Yankees will dropoff in 2025 without him. He was a primary contributor in D.C., but one of many in that lineup. I can easily see the Mets not winning the WS during the term of his contract, and even an appearance in the Fall Classic is no guarantee because as coveted a FA as he was the last 3 years, there simply is no one single player in baseball who, on his own, is good enough to change an entire team's fate. All Steven Cohen accomplished in signing the 26 y.o. outfielder was to win the bidding war for his services, but in so doing, committed to him for a period that will see him turn 41 while still guaranteed one of the highest average salaries in the game. It made sense to sign Shohei Ohtani for 10 years as a 2-way player because not only is he a unicorn with elite status & resume` as a hitter AND a pitcher, but his global appeal is a marketing revenue stream that is sustainable even after his skillset & performance output have peaked & are well in decline. Barring catastrophic injury or tragedy, he stands to attract more financial opportunities for Guggenheim in popularity than it costs to keep him on the roster, including deferred money. So Shohei Ohtani is not just a unicorn as an athlete, but as a business model as well.

[@noylakers9755]

Dodgers fan here, but the big brain plan might be to try to win the world series in the next 5 years. We know Soto will hit on that 5th year because he wants that $800M. Mets just allow him to opt out. 5 prime years at less than $250M wouldn't be the worst deal ever.

[@joshuapatrick682]

765 million divided by 9-10 million per WAR for a guy who produces 6.2 bWAR a season. So he has to put up 85 bWAR for that to be an okay contract in current terms, but where is the figure going to be in 5-10 years? 12-15 mil per bWAR seems likely IMO which means he has to produce 55-60 WAR over 15 years to be a reasonable investment. I think he is easily capable of that. In terms of what it does to current markets it isn't ideal but in terms of long-term potential I don't think it's the disaster you want to believe from a purely mathematical standpoint. I personally don't believe any sports contract should be more than 200,000,000 period, considering the lessons we learned with Trout, Anthony Rendon and Stephen Strausburg. I think that MLB's players have it way too good for the amount of actual value they produce in terms of ROI. It's kind of sad how inflated things have gotten in the least popular of the "big three" professional sports organizations.

[@user-mr7fu8pi2l]

I'm a Met fan, and in my opinion Soto is 1 player that's it just 1 player and 1 player has 1 ab, 1 walk , 1 out. The Mets paid out too much and they needed to resign Pete + another bat. They signed the other bat but haven't resigned Pete. They also need to resign or find 3 top end pitchers. They haven't done that either. So, have they gotten better? I think not!

[@JorgeFeliz-v4l]

The hate on soto is crazy he went to the highest bidder is a business if you want the best you have to overpaid that’s why more than 5 teams bid on him for more than 700 soto is the best player in the game

[@UTNatlChamps]

It’s not bad if Cohen internally blames this as a reason for not spending money on the Mets. I doubt that transpires.

[@timotheegoulet1511]

At $51m per year let’s just say he still must prove he is worth it. Let’s just be happy that the Mets have an owner who is willing to spend the money needed to win championships and to pay big time on the luxury tax.

[@randallchan2001]

Yes I really know the N.Y. Mets are overpaying Juan Soto by a lot He is not as good at Baseball as Shohei Ohtani is. Ohtani is a far better and more talented and skilled Baseball player. Go Dodgers in 2025⚾️💙👍

[@miguel.ledesmaledesma1790]

As a bleed blue and orange METS fan,I can attest that we are very happy with the Soto signing and you’d be hard pressed to find one ☝️ Mets fan that would feel otherwise. Othani is Othani and not to mention 4 years older which in sports is an eternity. Othani was never in the running for us. He wanted to be on the west coast like most Japanese players and that is his right like most Latin players prefer the east coast (with the exception of Mexican players). Not even Steve Cohen could compete with geography 😂(what were we supposed to do,give up on free agency because Othani didn’t want us???). I almost guarantee that if Othani had not been so fixated on the west coast or did not have a preference ,we’d probably have Othani as well as Soto. But that would be unfair. But we don’t need him anyway. Enjoy your Othani and we’ll enjoy our Soto. LET’S GO METS!!!💙🧡🗽.

[@mirikaku5811]

@@miguel.ledesmaledesma1790I think you have a healthy reality on the situation, compare to some of the others who suddenly start to post hateful denigration of Ohtani against Soto. Ohtanis value will not go down regardless who else pay someone more.. Ohtani is only one in the world doing what he is doing in the highest level. He also is a marketable great role model for the sport, wholesome and NEVER speaks badly about anyone or making himself The one thing I actually liked with this signing is that all these years Yankees (and the media) has acted as EVERYBODY should be grateful Yankees exist, be grateful for being in their presence and playing for them..the ARROGANCE and hubris was unbelievable. Not to mention the rudeness and obnoxiousness of their fanbase. And now Uncle Cohen stuck up the mid finger to them with this trade is worth the overpay…😂

[@randallchan2001]

@@mirikaku5811 I agree with you 💯 percent. ⚾️💙👍

[@jordansoviet23]

The Dodgers will be the major roadblock that the Mets will encounter for the whole duration of Soto's contract.

[@Samsonmanase]

Sho is committed to winning cuz he deferred while Soto will likely get traded 10 years in and never win with the Mets 😂

[@floridasportsworld]

😂😂 Soto already won a World Series fan boys don’t know how to secure their future that is why you will continue to be a fan boy. His family is secured for life he’s set only fans care about winning and Ohtani got the money too 😂 if they lost you would say he went for the money

[@neorock6135]

An entire statement absolutely devoid of logic or objectivity. Talk about Sour 🍇🍇🍇 🤣 Virtually no player does what Shohei did... offer his own contract & willingly take deferrals. Shohei was the very rare exception, not the norm... But he was making over half a billion $ off the field with promotions, which allowed him to do that numb nuts. _"He will never win with the Mets"_ You must be our resident "Nostradofus"🤣 oops I mean "Nostradamus." Yea its not like the Mets were 2 games removed from the WS without even Soto on the team. Oh shit wait، how does reality work? 🤣😂 Cohen made 3/4 of a billion $ just in the last 6 months alone outside the Mets, is the richest owner in baseball, & has said countless times he will spend to win, the Mets payroll is a tiny piece of a small corner on his balance sheet. Get ready to experience sour 🍇 & be butt hurt every off season as Cohen will pull the best players in the market to the Mets. p.s. As @Floridasportsworld already stated, he's already got a WS ring & is one of the most prolific postseason players...which he proved again with the Yanks while Judge slumped. 🤣😂I swear these ppl just come out of the woodworks with such moronic declarations.

[@Samsonmanase]

@ come back to this post in 10 years if Mets win something moron

[@dannythomas9623]

Cope

[@steventogami898]

You should also calculate the current high taxes from States like California, New York. Liberal politicians could and would create special tax brackets for high income individuals down the road. Ohtani would set up residency in tax free States like Florida, or Nevada.

[@eltuertolurojo]

It’s easy for people to just talk at the same time they can even afford ticket to go to the game

[@EnriquilloLAU]

Yankees are good.

[@shaindaman13]

Guggenheim knows how to run a freakin team.

[@anonuser1]

Juan Soto is an amazing player and super entertaining at-bat. Loved him on the Yanks. People are reaching by trying to poke holes into this acquisition.

[@CuriousJet]

100% agree with your analysis 👍

[@jjwats12]

‘Biggest paying contract in sports history’…. Except Ohtani is getting paid 20M more per year.

[@user-Ic7hx7wd9c]

? Ohtani is 46m

[@erod3649]

It doesn't take a genius to realize the mets where bamboozled

[@JohnSmith-qt2ii]

Look at Alex Bregman’s stats from 2019 when he was 25 years old and then look at his stats since then when he supposedly should have been in his “prime.” Hint, his 2019 numbers are eerily similar to Soto’s 2024 numbers, and are actually better at a slightly younger age!

[@Rico-Suave]

"It aint trickin' if you got it" - Lil' Wayne

[@arielbatista7ify]

That's how free market works

[@jamesNKYI3806]

Soto with crows feet eyes is not 26. People are blind and won't admit the obvious, he is 33+.

[@BKDBut]

Now this is an angry and racist Yankee fan

[@mikesirman3148]

How racist?

[@BKDBut]

@@mikesirman3148 That because he's a Latin player his age is incorrect and being lied about. Typical stereotype to try to demean a player and talk him down.

[@dannythomas9623]

You just racist

[@soggy79]

arguing against the logic of the market is a bad look. if cohen just simply made an outrageous bid way above what any one else was offering, that would be one thing. but considering that there were 4 or 5 teams with bids in the same ballpark, it is ridiculous to claim to have a better idea about what Juan Soto is worth.

[@freddyonline17]

I think everybody would agree this is a horrible deal. Even Mets fans. But it’s not their money. It’s Cohens. Let him write a 36 year old DH who hits .290, 30+ homeruns, 80+ rbis a $51 million dollar check that year. Performance will only decay after that and money still stays the same. 😂

[@Justin-ei1qf]

you can make a guesstimate he will be worth 650m, add in the fact that prices continue to increase, the fact that young superstars who can even supply that kind of value rarely ever make it to free agency AND they were bidding against the yankees I say the Mets came out okay. The Ohtani argument is tired, nobody outside of CA ever had a chance removing more than half of big market teams.

[@lordquastheonly]

Biggest contract in baseball for a player who’s not even a top 15 player in the league

[@boogiedownkid5465]

Soto was 6th in MLB with 7.9 WAR and was 3rd in the AL MVP. How is that not a top 15 player?

[@dannythomas9623]

He’s a top 4 hitter stop talking nonsense

[@AaronMedina2000]

This is a great contract for the Mets. Watch and see