Why Kane believes Melbourne should do anything to trade out 'gettable' Oliver - Footy Classified

Tom Morris tells Footy Classified that while Melbourne is adamant Clayton Oliver is not up for trade, the contracted midfielder is seen as 'absolutely' gettable by other clubs.
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[@swordiexd]

Tom Morris and Sam McClure on the same show...I'm sure this will go down well with everyoneee

[@patkelly6349]

I agree mate. I can’t listen anymore to this garbage

[@harrymay9750]

The winter slog applies to footy class too

[@Derek-gs5fr]

And they're never played AFL but it looks like they're played with boys 😂

[@seanbuchanan5402]

Seen this comment and had to say thank you 🙏, can’t imagine my mood after watching.

[@julesdalli9716]

I've seen editions of this junk show, where it's McClure, Caro, and 2 ex-footballers. It's very deliberate. Undermine actual intelligent discourse, and throw personalities on the show that will stir up drama/generate clickbait.

[@brendankihjoiu2670]

Rumour has it Sam has never let someone finish a sentence

[@andrewfuller62]

Rumour has it that that is not a rumour.

[@slowmammal]

Lois Griffin hosting & Quagmire replacing Caro - what a treat!

[@julesdalli9716]

Family Classified.

[@reggiemillerisunderrated8396]

@@julesdalli9716underrated comment

[@markc5442]

I feel sorry for Kane and Lloydy having to sit and listen to these flogs

[@BrooklynKeynes]

Even Kane! 😂

[@julesdalli9716]

Their presence on this show makes me question their integrity. They tend to have better takes than the other 95% of panelists, but they know full well what Nine's objectives are with this program. They'd be more at home on Fox Footy alongside the likes of Dave King and Joey, but I guess they don't want the paycut.

[@ma3stro681]

DEI hires … 😂

[@doubleviewcarpetcleaningdc1215]

That was 6 minutes of my life I lost with no positive information transferred

[@nugsruleify]

well said 😂😂

[@mikewazowski8368]

As a Hawthorn man I never thought I'd feel bad for Lloydy but Christ he's a trooper for putting up with those two

[@barelyamused966]

I actually feel so bad for lloyd

[@benlewin1822]

Oliver was on track to be one of the best demons players ever, Melbourne would be insane to not back him in to be better with a pre season next year.

[@skillsmachine9164]

Yep "one of the worst deals ever" is crazy hes won 4 bnfs. He had no pre season. Give him one year to show he can bounce back at least. Settle down korn

[@patkelly6349]

Mclure trying to be relevant

[@ericfern8869]

Sam McClure is an appalling host.

[@mrtommipham3571]

Seems like no panel members like McClure yet channel9 keep forcing him on everyone. 😅

[@Bloodynine606]

Sam and Tom have the opposite of charisma. It’s like derisma that just makes every one angry

[@werndogga]

😂

[@julesdalli9716]

The lack of personality I can tolerate. Their own assumption that they have giant football brains is the issue. I'd respect them more if they looked as though they wanted to learn more about the game that they're talking about.

[@Bloodynine606]

@@julesdalli9716didn’t say that

[@uhhhCorey]

Oliver has been a top 5 player if not top 10 player for years. He has 1 interrupted pre season and a bad hand injury and we are going to throw him away based off a slump of bad form? Crazy

[@johnnybgood3909]

"has been" you said

[@uhhhCorey]

@@johnnybgood3909 yes because of his interrupted pre season and bad hand injury. If Kane really thinks clarry will play at this form for the rest of his 6 year contract he is delusional

[@julesdalli9716]

Trading him would probably send the club backwards (who are seeking to get themselves back into premiership contention, 0-4 in finals games in the last 2 seasons), and Oliver himself probably wouldn't want to leave. I think most would agree that Oliver should stay where he is.

[@StuTheDon17]

As Kane said, it was Melbourne who had him on the trade table last season.....

[@alias_EP]

These idiots dont factor in when you got 6 ys left on you're deal you have NO interest in moving on, like you said, top player think 4 B&F been an absolute gun, no preseason to speak of and a few injuries, he will come back better than ever next year.

[@aidanevans5658]

Morris and McClure on the same panel God Help Us All!

[@user-fz9fb2yf1z]

Llordo and Kane hate being on this panel 😂

[@JulianMachin-le7pb]

Real Melbourne fans back Clayton in he’s going nowhere ❤️💙❤️💙

[@binks7988]

Oliver is a joke

[@mitchellbest4850]

How can Kane say that’s one of the worst contracts his ever seen? His 26 years old 3x all aus and 4x b&f winner, not to mention a crucial part of a premiership team, unfortunately Kane his resume was already better by 23 than what yours was after your career had finished

[@Cry_theonly]

300 gamer, x4 b&f, x2 AA, premiership player, very similar resume only Kane played 300, the way Clayton is going he won't play anywhere near as many. Kanes opinion is his not worth 10m tied up on going. Maybe his wrong, maybe cluz comes back and continues his honours, maybe not. But his not wrong 10m is a big gamble for him to turn it around.

[@imalwaysright]

@@Cry_theonly he's had one bad year. If it was JHF, Kane would be raving about the contract and never trading him

[@frarfarf]

​@@Cry_theonly similar, but not as good, and Oliver is only halfway through, muppet

[@Cry_theonly]

@@frarfarf similar but Kane has runs on the board, no good jbeing half way through if your done. Now by all means he gets a pre season in and comes back to be one oif the best again, great for him. But hardly a muppet statement flog

[@agmor1]

​@@Cry_theonly WTF is this comparison? Oliver is a star of the competition - Cornes was a tagger whose BAF all came when his premiership teammates were slowing down or retiring. And that 2012 BAF deserves an asterix.

[@Comatosedpeanut]

When is kane gonna talk about how soft Connor rozee is? Did I miss Kane talking about Horne Francis attitude problems?

[@imalwaysright]

talks about everybody else except the protected species

[@jackbirch6816]

Kane becoming more likable by the week sticking it to these media flogs who never played AFL

[@ajexxan3415]

Is Sam trying to look like Harley Reid or something?

[@markwhelan9887]

Sam makes things up as he goes along and for him to sit and argue with two blokes that played the game and would know a great deal more than someone that picks up things he hears from sources that may or may not be reliable is beyond my understanding

[@Saint_Svadhisthana_Sahasrara_1]

Oh god no. Not these 2 together. I can’t and I won’t. I can wait a week.

[@rayzasrant6192]

God hates you 😂😂😂

[@haz486]

"oi we should start a podcast our chats are top class stuff"

[@slingblade8963]

Phasing Dodoro out could be over a 10year period.. they never said cutting ties at the years end.

[@taliamason7986]

No but they did bring in his replacement which should have automatically cut ties with him.

[@slingblade8963]

@taliamason7986 Recruitment isn't a one man band.

[@benrussian9206]

kane sits here and says that they should unload an all australian for free. not only for free but also giving up a pick. in the next breath he pans the pies for letting ginnivan go who wanted to leave and not accepting his behaviour differences. im all for kanes opinions but what does he actually value.

[@Bigshrimp351]

FACTS. Sometimes I agree with what he says. This time he's made a fool of himself.

[@retro-paradox]

I'm betting big on Revux - a project with enormous potential. Can't wait to see it take off!

[@justicedemocrat9357]

Everyone is bullying sam mclure LMFAO!

[@harsha08212]

My last 100x was with Pepe because I got in early. Now, I’m putting everything into Revux. After diving into their whitepaper, I'm confident this is my next 100x.

[@philipoconnor5865]

It is a sad state of affairs when as a die hard Hawks supporter I feel really sorry for Matthew Lloyd. I think I actually missed Carro...this is how bad the show is with Tom Morrison and Sam McClure

[@user-fu6lm1sp3o]

Revux presale seems like a golden opportunity to be part of the next big thing in fintech.

[@rathvafatish]

My top pick for bull run KAS, SOL, Revux.

[@mehrbanmehrban927]

RVX (Revux) is an ICO gem!

[@sourabkumar-vk6xn]

We all know presales are risky, but the gains on those can be insane. I've just put a few thousand in Revux. If I lose, that's a bummer, but if I win, I will be a millionaire by next year.

[@qurah0]

At what stage does Dodo get criticism though? if not after 20 years, then when?

[@jeremyking5860]

There are rumours circulating BT will be boned from 7. Wheatley to replace him as head of the AFL coverage. 7 think he’s gettable, based on all the financial issues at SEN. SEN are happy to do the deal, if 7 can offer a replacement. SEN are believed to be very interested in Alistair Nicholson but, are not willing to pay out his contract. I think a deal will get done.

[@taliamason7986]

Whateley you mean and no he isn't remotely gettable. The man recently signed a 3 year extension with SEN back in April.

[@jeremyking5860]

@@taliamason7986 I was joking

[@lilakapase1918]

I can see Revux hitting $5 easily not long after launch.

[@kyalking1313]

These 2 are not in anyway reliable when it comes to any form of information but today is denied Oliver been up for trade at the end of last year and then halfway through this year they admitted that they did ask around dons, hawks and crows were all interested.

[@eaglebear5084]

I agree with Lloydy

[@Tosicc567]

Wait Clarry is having a bad season after a non existent pre-season and bad off field issues? No way almost like pre-seasons are important to a players performance... He'll be back next year, dude is too good a player to just be bad all of a sudden.

[@patitude]

What is zero McClue doing with his hair? The ‘Karen’ suits him

[@grantmonaghan810]

Tom Morris looks like one of the puppets on Thunderbirds

[@dc-rj5ow]

I'm not a fan of McClure, but he handled himself well here. Quite simply, the Ess list has been deplorable over the past two decades, and Adrian hasn't been held to account.

[@MrMooremelody]

So Kane blasts Melbourne for getting rid of Grundy for cheap (even though it was a salary dump) but then believes Melbourne should trade a first rounder to get rid of Oliver. Talk about a contradiction. Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. The guy didn't have a pre-season and had a fair hand injury.

[@crazychips123]

Poor Kane and Lloydy

[@TheBeddaMan]

I disagree that Essendon should have beaten Melbourne…they were outplayed for large parts of the game.

[@Sagarnayak-dg1vx]

I believe Revux is guaranteed to be a 100x.

[@andrewt1176]

Why would you have two guys no one likes or likes to listen to on the same show.. crazy

[@endzhere1638]

Channel 9 doesn't care about the viewers.

[@connorpapacheese7653]

Get Sam McClure off this show for the love of god

[@AJHornet1]

Talk about Clarry moving is insane. Classic Kane Cornes clickbait.

[@sumantkumar1207]

5k I've just invested in Revux is going to make me a millionaire. Let's go!!

[@dannywalkinhome]

I would rather listen to my mother climax, then listen to McClure talk

[@alias_EP]

Olive was never on the trade table, was all media hype cause you guys need sensational news

[@Anfa18]

No one saying anything about drugs when it comes to Oliver anymore or the poor culture at the club?

[@worker-wf2em]

Bombers yet to beat anyone currently in the top 8 this year and now beating Adelaide and Saints will prove their finals credentials? Softest draw I’ve ever seen for a team and they’ll only be making up the numbers come September

[@gustaaf1892]

Agree with Lloyd, Oliver is damaged goods and no other club will take a huge gamble on him unless he has proven he has control over his personal life and he is playing good footy again. I doubt he'll ever get back to his AA form again.

[@matthewhodge5267]

If Melbourne offer Oliver and a 1st to anyone they should be deregistered

[@chippab1407]

What a hair cut Sam 🤢

[@callumdunkley1]

Do they not want us too watch this show why do they get the two biggest flogs on the show with 2 afl greats

[@jameswilson9578]

Tom Morris is very very questionable.

[@kaeltaylor430]

Denzel Morris

[@Toastmalone6192]

Essendon won’t

[@dragon13304]

Clayton is going nowhere! Worst footy show on TV

[@jorshima42]

so i've watched this show for 3 years from the UK. in the past 2-3 weeks i've lost all interest because of 'dumb' & 'dumber' being on the show - talk about trying to grow the game and fanbase, and then you put those two nobs on show - sure those two will single handedly kill this show off

[@ideaphile]

What drama queens!

[@TheCharcoalchicken]

Sam and Tom, two of the most unlikable journos in the afl hosting a show.. great idea

[@lappin6482]

🙄🙄🙄

[@luciusverus7697]

Morris and McLure the epitome of private school boys with no talent and all the connections. Their smugness makes this show unwatchable

[@flip8702]

Korn in-between two tossers. 😂

[@Comatosedpeanut]

Kornes is a tosser

[@sweetcell8767]

McClure is a rank amateur. Doddoro is one of 2 or 3 people who have held Essendon together. As one loser after another: Neeld, Kerr, Campbell, Richardson slunk into the club and dragged its standards to the bottom of the barrel. Add that to Worstfold’s 5 passionless, bland, stagnant years where he basically failed to develop anyone. Bomber Thompson’s personal issues. Hirdy and the supplements saga. The hasty appointment of the inexperienced Rutten. On and on. Doddoro has remained focused and kept his department verily cohesive. The intellect of McClure is too subpar to grasp the nuances.

[@taliamason7986]

Dodoro helped hold Essendon together. What an absolute joke. The man drafted horrendously for most of his time until the mid-season draft came into the frame back in 2019. Did you suddenly forget about the likes of Gumbleton, Reimers or Myers who were absolutely useless. He would constantly bring in decent at best players in free agency and massively overpay them. He is literally the sole reason why for many years our backline has been so ridiculously under sized and frail until McKay was brought in. He has made us miss out on many seriously good players like Josh Dunkley and Bobby Hill. The later which would have solved our current major small forward issues ever since we lost Fantasia and Tippunwugi. He never replaced Jobe Watson after he retired 7 years ago and still to this day we have no big bodied midfielder that can consistently dominate the contest and drive right through the opposition's defence with authority and sheer will like a Petracca, Bontempeli, Dangerfield, Dusty Martin, De Goey, prime Fyfe, Cripps, etc. Maybe Durham ends up been that dominant big bodied midfielder but that is realistically at least 2-3 years down the line by which time Merret and Parish are in their early 30's. We have had less than 15 All Australian selections since 2001. Need I say more.

[@sweetcell8767]

@@taliamason7986 your arguments are very very week. The fact that you need to go back to the 2006 and 2007 drafts to make your key points re Gumbleton, Myers etc doesn’t shape up well for you.

[@taliamason7986]

​​@@sweetcell8767It shapes greatly for me because drafting those two in those years meant missing out on two quality forwards to replace both Lloyd and Lucas after 2009 and 2010 respectively. We wouldn't get another top calibre tall forward until Joe Daniher which meant we were largely stuck with Crameri who was decent and mostly got the job done but nowhere near the elite level. Just accept the stone cold fact he is absolute rubbish and would have been sacked by all the other 17 clubs many years ago. He has been at this club for almost 30 years and has largely overseen complete failure in pretty all but his first 3 years where he basically arrived at a club that was considerably more stable, actually had a serial winning mentality seethed right through the culture and was drafting well for years.

[@sweetcell8767]

@@taliamason7986 your one of those people who does have a bit of knowledge, I’ll give you that. You know the dates of the draft and the players drafted. And you know the players who retired and needed to be replace. What you don’t have is any reasoning to apply. You say “forwards to replace Lloyd and Lucas”??? Come on? Lloyd and Lucas were generation players. You think a Lloyd is in the draft every year, ready and waiting to walk into your club? Madness. The truth is that, by picking Gumbleton, who was a top junior and would’ve been picked by the next club if we didn’t get him, Dodoro was trying to solve the forward problem. Sadly, his body wasn’t up to it, maybe his attitude wasn’t up to it? Perhaps we didn’t develop him according? You seem to be under the misconception that a player fails because they were the wrong pick to begin with. When talented players don’t make it, it’s multi causal; numerous things go wrong. As we’re seeing with Zach Reid at present. Why is that so hard to understand? And I still find it interesting that your primary concerns with Dodoro go back to 2007. Just weak arguments.

[@taliamason7986]

​@@sweetcell8767Never expected there to be another Lloyd and Lucas after 2009 and 2010. I and most Bomber fans very simply expected good replacements for them which at the time there was plenty of good of in those drafts but Dodoro and his team clearly picked the wrong players. Its not exactly difficult to comprehend. If you draft the wrong player you have sinply drafted the wrong player. It really doesn't matter at all what the circumstances are currently or were for that player or even if they do come good much later on in their career. Its still the wrong pick regardless because much better players around them both in their same position in another position were passed up on. Why else do you think both the Bombers and Blues have largely been the laughing stock of the competition for the last 20 years. There is nothing remotely complicated about it and the principle applies to every other League with a draft system. The NBA especially where drafting the wrong player/s has a detrimental effect on a franchises future. Case in point the Golden State Warriors who foolishly selected James Wiseman with the number 1 pick over the clearly more talented Lamelo Ball. Now as result they have no future at all as soon as Steph Curry retires. My concerns actually largely spread from 2017 onwards where still to this day we never have never found a proper replacement for Jobe Watson and still don't have a big bodied midfielder that consistent dominates the contest. Like I said Durham quite possibly could end up been that but that is at least 2-3 years down the line by which time Merret and Parish are in their early 30's. Then there is a massive hole in quality 20-25 a goal a season pressure small forwards ever since we lost Fantasia to Port Adelaide (obviously at Carlton now) and Tippunwugi to his 2nd retirement just last year. Davey Jr quite clearly isn't cut out for AFL footy at this stage and Menzies all though he seemed to show a bit of promise in his first year last season is probably at least 3-4 seasons away.

[@kamadowoah4584]

Sam McClure is the least watch able person on tv.

[@joelarmour8291]

Get Sam off the show!

[@johnathonmcpherson7928]

Lose the ridiculous haircut McClure!

[@StuTheDon17]

The largest forehead and worst hairstyle in Australian television. Well done Sam.

[@nickfallaw7795]

You’re all so judgmental Sam is a good jernolist why are you all picking on Sam and Tom they’re actually good they wouldn’t be on the show. So people stop whining

[@taliamason7986]

Good journalists 😂😂😂. They're largely hacks and one of them is only working in media because his father was a journalist.