Why KR CHALLENGERS are playing PROXY + GHOST CLEANSE NILAH

[@HappyChimeNoises]

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[@XevilangleX]

Literal garbage.. do you're research before you get convinced to buy a terrible pre-built pc..

[@yudoball]

When Disco nunu and disco nilah are going to the party you know it's gonna be lit

[@OutstandinglySteve]

I want to see Baus' reaction to getting double proxxy'd.

[@RegiJatekokMagazin]

i picked this in gold2 and they instantly dodged, its no the 10 times im trying to pick this XD

[@Escalusfr]

"What?! They must be yoking"

[@webaazul2500]

"mmMM phock man! This is PhoKING annoying! I'm so tired of this Nilah strat. *moves camera to Darius* And now they're gonna give Darius two kills, *They die* FF get me out of here, AND I'm Still level one! Against a 2/0 Darius! Are you Yoking? Nah, they're getting reported... *He dies* phoking inters man..."

[@genghisfarn]

There's a vid of him as fiora Vs a Sion where he gets proxied a bunch and eventually double proxied, fkn jokes The fiora incident by LOL XD

[@zalvian22]

@@webaazul2500 you do realize if this was in his game it'd be on the enemy team right? They play it mid top, so he'd be the one getting proxied

[@simonschulz4401]

The most insane thing about this strat, is ghost/cleanse Nilah flashing the wall level 1 🙃

[@almoalmo5802]

Lol

[@cashbag]

They are two different strats

[@unzkipriime4283]

me when my attention span is bronze

[@alexanderpadilla1449]

Me when i dont have any braincells left

[@djockom]

The most insane thing is your awful attention spam

[@HappyChimeNoises]

FOR CLARITY - The lvl 1 strat - is 1 Duo. They play with Flash/heal/Exhaust The Ghost Cleanse - is another strategy played by many others That is why they are able to flash over the base wall, and why the other KR Challengers do not :) Also this proxy lvl 1 strategy is very hard even if enemies don't show up - so practice in Custom game first then normals - or you may even just die to minions

[@MrZodra]

Take Clarity with cleanse/ghost or with flash/heal/exhaust got it 👍

[@brynjolf8528]

yea i was confused title said ghost and they pick flash

[@ggShini]

What items are they starting for the base invade? Does Lee go with a support item for gold? Or does he just not get any gold until going back to lane?

[@sonluyenvan8652]

Oh u mean 3 teammates of them will have the resouce of 1 lane and jungle will have to deal with the member that cleared the wave and have full prior because there was no farm on 2 lanes so 2 member not jungle will have to stay together?

[@STHSilqueira]

10:22 There the Nilah actually cleanses Renata's Q, the arrow just doesnt stun her as much because of Cleanse's bonus tenacity

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Yeah almost same frame funnily, such good value on the cleanse

[@DaGaJbmKojJe]

Meanwhile me with cleanse: uses it 2s after being cc'd or i forget that I don't have heal and waste it...

[@gyrozeppeli7296]

@@DaGaJbmKojJe I usually greed it because "they can't follow up here"(turns out they actually can)

[@zalvian22]

imagine telling a player from s2 that one day league will be in a state that it will be completely accurate to say "Ghost cleanse is terrifying to play against because of how much it denies your enemies"

[@monsteralta]

imagine telling a player from s2 to read Nilah passive, which as much word counting as two champion whole skill set added up

[@a-drewg1716]

@@monsteralta two? mate she has at least an entire teams worth in just her passives

[@LutraLovegood]

S2 player: "Oh so it's Singed proxy farming on steroids?"

[@PinkeySuavo]

@@monsteralta imagine telling a player from s2 to read any new champ's skillset or new item's description S1-S2: "throw a ball and deal 100 damage" S13: 20 pages essay each with A4 format

[@voltirin511]

Low elo: "I will destroy everything you love if you misstep even once" High elo: "Wanna go enemy base level one?" "Yes."

[@thanasispapazoglou8135]

Low elo: However misplays less wins High elo: "I will destroy everything you love if you misstep even once" Korean High Challenger Elo:"Wanna go enemy base level one?" "Yes."

[@JustMarty]

That's because low elo is down to fiesta for any reason, but challenger solo laners wouldn't leave lane to defend because that means losing plates and xp which means your opponent isn't actually losing out on the minion gold Nilah is denying them. Their expectation is the bot lane needs to match it.

[@Seaslaya]

this really makes me think. if Nilah gives more xp for last hitting, wouldnt fasting senna have AMAZING synergy with her? you could play nilah support building full dmg and senna gets super turbo fed from souls and extra stats from nilah passive. I will experiment with this in my elo

[@justdakotamusic]

Update?

[@alex2005z]

I thought of that as soon as she came out, but got no one to test it with

[@Jeiss_V]

at that point that's nilah adc and fasting senna support, i versed it, it's very good they make up for the other's weaknesses

[@pseudosadistic5957]

No bcs bonus exp is only if nilah takes the farm, and she realy wants to scale her self with gold.

[@minhthai4915]

I think it's a great strategy but now that it's known ... The gimmick is easily countered but big props for creativity

[@Azuwishgaming]

9:09 Cleansing the ignite only removes the dmg being, applied not the grevious wounds effect

[@thanasispapazoglou8135]

@@swallowmikeuhm6744 It should only remove the grevious wound effect .

[@decidueyezealot8611]

@Thanasis Papazoglou and make it worse than it already is? No.

[@TohnR]

@@decidueyezealot8611 Cleanse is one of the most used summoner for Botlane carry. It's not bad lol

[@decidueyezealot8611]

@@TohnR Its worse than the sash, there are many things that it cannot remove that it can despite taking up a slot. Just because adc are so squishy that an instant of cc is death doesn't make the spell good.

[@aprofessionalateverything7585]

@@decidueyezealot8611 sash costs 1300 gold, it's better for a reason

[@lolialf]

its so nice for Rito to give Nilah to have so much free stuff just for being new

[@Nekroso]

After giving her at max 450 they should lol

[@holycartoon9950]

Title: Why KR CHALLENGERS are playing PROXY + GHOST CLEANSE NILAH Third min: Nilah Flashes over Visible confusion

[@edudocerrado8584]

Id love to see that on worlds, but Im sure its never gonna happen

[@alex2005z]

In worlds you wouldnt even make it to their base alive

[@cosmicbrownie2312]

Yesterday we actually had a Nilah mid+Lee Top do this double proxy strat. Threw us for a loop, but I recalled and picked up a double as adc and then my top proceeded to go 12/0 vs the Lee. Flawless strat in pisslow NA lmfaoooooo

[@danello9091]

imo Lee should go mid, Nilah has better matchups up top than Lee does, and since Lee will be so ahead he can go full lethality with the failsafe of a fed Nilah if all else goes to shit

[@CrRaZzyX]

God i love obscure shit like this, it will get nerfed for sure since riot is allergic to fun, but it's still cool nonetheless.

[@vlveil3534]

I hate riot as much as every other person with an IQ above 60, but "fun"? cmon lmfao

[@CrRaZzyX]

@@vlveil3534 Call it fun, call it unorthodox, proxy Sion got nerfed, proxy singed and many other examples through the years if something outside the meta becomes viable and popular, count on riot nerfing it asap. Im talking about proxy nilah btw.

[@vtgare]

@@CrRaZzyX the point is that these strats are only fun for people who use them, they're complete opposite for people who play against them. Unorthodox proxy strategies are played in so many games not because they're fun, but because they're busted as fuck.

[@vtgare]

Also proxy Signed and proxy Sion are still viable just not overpowered, so they're not abused by a large part of the player base and therefore not nerfed anymore.

[@alex2005z]

Its only fun for whoever does it. Its a toxic and uninteractive playstile

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

That proxy strategy is just my type of cheese, love it. I also like the not going Flash on champs with mobility, I’ve been maining Yi recently and I find a ton more value from running Exhaust than any other summoner spell, it just makes the 1v1s in the jungle or even 1v2s so easily winnable. If I really need mobility I’ll pick Ghost which is lower CD and will get you most kills that Flash gets you anyway, I find Flash has the most value as a defensive spell to run away over a wall or something, not as an offensive one.

[@leefez]

i got a nilah yuumi duo doing this in one of my games today.She was the bot role but was farming top and mid waves which made my top laner angry and go afk lvl 1 :(

[@justanothercommenterwithan9089]

ok i was not expecting omega proxy nilah

[@Mexican00b]

Nerf to minions to not give exp while in their base the first 5 minutes of the game Incoming

[@abdallahhakeem5185]

Yeah, "No innovation allowed"-Riot

[@arminarlelt7471]

Singed mains getting nerfed for nothing, this is sad

[@fisheewishee7721]

POV the enemies waiting in base: 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑 15 seconds later : FIRST BLOOD, An ally has been slain The allies : Nilah - Respawning - 2s Nilah - Respawning - 2s Nilah - Respawning - 1s Lee Sin - Respawning - 0s Lee Sin - Alive

[@atsukki]

9:08 cleanse doesnt actually remove the grievous wounds, only the true damage part, you can check it on wiki

[@vihuhol]

2 vids in 1 - "why ghost+cleanse Nilah good" and "top+mid duo can abuse Nilah for proxy"

[@kainmit2894]

Its easy answer becouse they are bored of the fcking game there is no reason to play ghost and cleans

[@AsarielTnG]

i got one fo those nilah lee on ym team they rolled the game over was ridiculus to watch we almost lose tho

[@averagecupofjoe8868]

Ngl the joke at the beginning of nilah being a low dmg character got me, well done

[@tenroy6]

The satrat for this is wait in base till 1 minute. Watch if they appear. Kill them.

[@Ikimono]

Everyone Said the xp passive on her was absolutely busted before she was released... and what do you know, it IS busted. Wow. Who would have guessed? :|

[@LutraLovegood]

Imagine her passive with RoA.

[@stefanobecchini2125]

idk, i prefered when this channel was about exposing weird and underrated tactics by people who worked their hardest to make them functional, and not just another "look how this awesome and prodigy korean player is playing in challenger"

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Literally every week except this one is about that😂 And even this one has the duo invading base - that's your weird new strat. Relax my friend nothing is changing

[@alex2005z]

So a lvl 1 base invade is standard stuff in your ranked games?

[@MP-ml4bu]

Broken champ is broken shocker. I'm surprised it took them that long to abuse her

[@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw]

I buy Moonstone on Senna because she has pretty good AP scaling, unlike Ornn for example. Nilah has none so I don't know if I'd bother taking the item on her. If the item could trigger her passive to heal her, that might be worth it. But I'm pretty sure that's not how that works. Redemption on the other hand is probably okay...I don't know why you're putting 3 AP items on that item build... If you want to boost healing, you can buy some critical strike instead.

[@notthunderchild]

How is a champion that literally deletes a fed Sett with one Q and three AAs supposed to be a low damage ADC?

[@ashmatrix7088]

support nilah could work pretty well with a "starving senna" let nilah take all the cs generating more xp and more shades for senna making the most of both passives thought a starving senna + sion support combo is still a bit better imo

[@ashmatrix7088]

@@MP-ut6eb sion main from NA but lately i just play fill

[@kogmawmain8872]

Senna get's literally zero AD from levels so the extra exp is not that op on Senna, probably.

[@deejaydee1578]

Wait but imagine lvl 1 base invade with senna. Senna has q for heald lvl 1, theyll both have to flash over but senna will get a sht ton of souls and become super strong super quick

[@spar9900]

but my allies ll troll with this

[@dopou286]

ghost cleanse: meanwhile flashing over the wall

[@sirjunkiiee8579]

Cleanse ghost 🤣 but then he said nilah flashes over the wall. Seems right with cleanse ghost 🤣🤣🤣

[@HappyChimeNoises]

2 different strategies

[@kogmawmain8872]

never heared of spellbook? ;)

[@sirjunkiiee8579]

@@kogmawmain8872 haha true

[@just_randomly]

Damn i actually thought about nilah support, but couldnt figure out a good built. I will experiment with that one, it sounds fun :D Pls keep us up to date when there is a viable support build for nilah :D

[@lolb4udie]

Nilah support with Senna

[@itsTK_]

wouldnt this cripple your top and mid since they have no minions or exp coming to them? like regardless your crippling someone on your team...? or am i missing something here unless you and your duo que top and mid?

[@scarose]

In the video it's explained that they are lee mid and nilah top.

[@alex2005z]

They queue mid and top to not be dicks to their own teamates. So you have 2 adcs

[@arminarlelt7471]

This strategy is not great against Irelia because she can't lose farm under turret, and also Nasus/Kayle/Kassadin who actually will enjoy the free farm without having to get poked early

[@gorbertnierczak911]

and they will get stomped by 3 levels ahead early champs

[@mauville_]

but even if they get perfect cs, nilah will still be ahead bc of her exp passive

[@acim2078]

100% a feature not an exploit

[@joeysmit4644]

hold up, if Nilah uses cleanse/ghost, how does she flash over the wall at 1:30 in game?

[@HappyChimeNoises]

2 different strategies

[@ayyyizme]

@@HappyChimeNoises so why was it the first one showcased? It's just confusing.

[@HappyChimeNoises]

league players trying to fit 2 different things into their head challenge. Its just 2 options of how the best players play the game in Korea. Think of it as a bonus 2nd video.

[@ggShini]

@@HappyChimeNoises Think about how its presented. Thumbnail and title are talking about ghost cleanse. LIterally first words are 'From taking ghost cleanse to invading base lvl one (flash is used huh?) To me that sounds like you are saying take ghost cleanse to invade their base. You could have lead with, 'Today we have 2 strategies on Nilah' and kept everything else the same. Swapping the '+' to an 'or' in the title would also indicate 2 seperate things but as is it looks like one thing, like they are proxying with ghost cleanse. I figured it out before the end of the video but it def could have been presented clearer.

[@PREDGAMIN]

day 1 of asking you to make a video about pyke

[@TheSniperpal]

5:16 “avoiding death is very important” You don’t say lol

[@0mniZZ]

You're telling me the junglers don't recall immediately after taking the first buff and 3v2ing with their laners while the nilah and lee sin tank 2 waves? Not gonna get counter jungled with both solo laners dead

[@HappyChimeNoises]

In some games, yes. They can always ward hop out of base and run. But in most games - this strategy takes advantage of the fact that you cannot communicate well with teammates in league. Yes if every enemy worked together perfectly and knew the counter right away - this strat wouldn't work. But we all know that won't happen in soloq with random players and a completely new proxy strategy

[@valonzoeatsbabies]

Imagine starting a game of league and seeing that you are already getting 2 waves proxied and the enemy adc is 2-3 levels above your top laner

[@cliffordwilson8070]

you can't even duo past a certain rank, so whats the point trying to perfect this for a rank you wouldn't even be able to do it in

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Fun

[@habibbenamor9872]

Take ghost and cleanse then flash over the wall

[@mbdgiannos148]

They all want to be like proxy singed

[@zacharywong483]

Nice video HappyChimeNoises! Nice to see you giving credit to Rainbow Flavor for finding the build too!

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Thanks! Legendary channel

[@momoniji6439]

So when lee sin goes back top with 10 cs againts a 40 cs level 6 nasus how would that be played?

[@HappyChimeNoises]

He will be multiple levels up, more important than stacks 👍

[@SkarnerTop]

i wonder if promoting to masters will get me my own video on his channel :(

[@mgtow346]

3:20 korean ct nasus not even stacking lmfao

[@okinataketori9713]

Who knew 200 years champ would break the game

[@HaxHaunter]

you forgot to give her a rating. don't you do ratings anymore? this was kinda useful, it made me realize how good Morde Jungle was thanks to the fact that he's top tier in your off-meta rankings.

[@HappyChimeNoises]

It's just not off meta, it's meta so doesn't fit in our off meta tierlist. That's for off meta

[@niklasmaier2664]

L9 turbo proxy ghost cleanse strat activated

[@retro9756]

Would overgrowth work with this strat? Or is it even viable anymore?

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Yes I think it would be reasonably valuable

[@Hopper12348]

Thanks to this video my mid and top laners immediately fed a double kill to the enemy irelia at level 1 in their base , thanks 🙏♥️

[@HappyChimeNoises]

If it was in ranked then I blame them for being idiots. If it was normal game then im glad they are trying it out. ty for sharing

[@Hopper12348]

@@HappyChimeNoises haha thanks for responding! It was actually norms so not a big deal but I was slightly irked. Love your vids please keep them coming.

[@johnbell3122]

I've been playing cleanse/ghost since your grandfather was diapers. You cannot killean the Zilean!

[@andrewkelley9405]

can't wait to see people mess this up in my ranked games :)

[@gorantua2712]

Because she is balanced...logic

[@maxmclain8572]

Think its important to point out the video you mentioned of DL flaming ghost cleanse in pro play was that in that particular game it was troll. They picked it on Zeri who doesn't really need the cleanse for exhaust and DL was saying flash had more value than cleanse that game. Seemed like he was arguing there is a time for ghost cleanse but that wasn't it

[@alex2005z]

The problem in that game is that there was nothing to cleanse. Preety much all the cc was knock ups, which you cant cleanse

[@mysticaldevotion863]

where is the proxy ghost cleanse nilah though?? I only see proxy flash nilah or non proxy ghost cleanse nilah

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Sorry title won't fit 'why some Korean challengers are playing ghost cleanse nilah and some others invade the enemy base at lvl 1 to proxy farm'

[@ggShini]

@@HappyChimeNoises 2 Korean CHALLENGER strategies; Base Proxy vs Ghost Cleanse

[@candymilkman]

This video is all over the place. Thumbnail and start of the vid is about a duo abusing Nilah passive in solo lanes (the strat even involves Nilah FLASHING into the enemy base). Suddenly it's about AD Carry Nilah and ghost cleanse being good summoner spells on her, presumably only in the botlane? Really feels like 2 separate videos about Nilah mashed into a mess of a Frankenstein video.

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Correct, double value

[@RapTapTap69]

Nether strat was enough to be a separate video. Why are you complaining? If it's to "Frankenstein" for you: stop the video after the first strat, watch another video, then watch the second half. You're a big kid you can manage a video with "" "" 2"" "" strategies. People will find anything to complain about smh.

[@louisjeancamille401]

what i was in this game

[@zaetriks5081]

me when nilah is broken and not bad since release:

[@sporedoutofmymind]

Nasus: "Joke's on you I'm into that shit"

[@adrianblopes]

The Baus needs to find a Nilah player

[@tacomaker3601]

hello

[@UncleSamsDevil]

What about Parnellyx Warwick Mid? He is nuts

[@johnwickfromfortnite9506]

Thanks for always releasing these videos so low piss elo players tried them and I completely counter their dumb strat and i can get a free win

[@jonteguy]

Support Nilah?.. so the passive is just wasted? You'd never get level 6 first as a guarantee anymore. Her whole like..thing is winning before the other team gets too many to level 18.

[@blobb459]

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[@ethanstyant9704]

Does anyone remember when they gave that passive but without the sharing benefit to old Mord and it was removed because it was OP as fuck? Now they've put it on a better champ and upgraded it and they green lit it???

[@thiagosquinca]

This strategy is really bad... doesn't work at all... when more than 1 enemy come to fight nilah and lee, they are both dead, then there will be no "fast level 6". Also nilah's lanefase as a solo laner is painful and stinky. Just don't try on ranked games.

[@ivegotavandetta]

Thank your kr chal players. Please get nilah nerfed. Lol I fkn hate playing against her. I'm also pissed cause I'm a samira fan and they removed her ally dash and then just gave a next adc one. 😅

[@kadalix]

woah its almost like fucking with the normal progression of exp makes the champion broken... how tf did nilah get shipped? its honestly so stupid

[@Draxis32]

This build has only one counter. The singed who got the first blood and is now double proxying himself LMAO

[@Damastawilliams1916]

Easy counter if this becomes popular and people know about it. Mid and top will just walk with their waves

[@alessandroarroyo1731]

I just saw it. Can you find a Pro GM Duo who plays Zilean Syndra Bot Lane?? IT LOOKS GENIUS

[@ArtaEva]

TLDR guard your early jungle instead of doing something else till 1-30.

[@НикитаСотченко]

Cleance is not great against exhaust, you cleance the slow, but your damage still reduced. Same with ignite, you clean the damage, but heal reduction still applied

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Don't think the exhaust part is true, but I do think the ignite part is true. Source LoL wiki - cleanses all effects of exhaust Does not remove ignite healing(you are right for sure on that)

[@alex2005z]

It does remove the dmg reduction

[@TranquillShot]

Alienware PCs can fix lag? They give me more internet? And there's a new Red Dead? xD

[@jorgelenny47]

My friend and I tried this tech, we got spotted as I flashed and it went downhill. Do this at your own risk

[@ryancheung1203]

Meanwhile my silver bot lane tries this and i get 0 waves top while they feed because they aint challenger

[@mommyningguang1474]

Will it be nightmare for our jungler?, mid and top could engaged after finish 6 minions

[@thelatestartosrs]

u gg 118 nilah support games world all ranks, gonna be 400 tomorrow

[@masterofworlds97]

"PROXY + GHOST CLEANSE NILAH" *Flahes over the wall* huh?

[@axylum4453]

Ah there it is. People found a way to exploit the shared exp. Ofc this would happen

[@TheHighborn]

The only problem i see here is the r13 is fucking dogshit objectively

[@azzmatazz71]

tried the support nilah in a custom and saw how the moonstone could heal but didn't really see the potential... would love to hear more :P

[@aprofessionalateverything7585]

Like he said in the video, w counters supports who rely on autos like leona and naut, so it's probably best into them

[@Q8CRAZY8Q]

Players coming up with new and original strats Riot:"No i dont think so"

[@breexy7190]

ghost cleanse proxy nilah... Step 1 : Flash over wall

[@gatsuyatsu]

Love your videos man

[@hollowryder2732]

Lord get it out of the way now at least ranked is almost over for people to do this shit in lol.

[@kogmawmain8872]

Today I learned that the double proxy idea was used before I had that idea.

[@michaelwagner2791]

The answer is to kill the other bot lane with your jungled and 3 man recall.

[@abemad21]

Why buy inifnity edge 3rd item with only 40% crit? hello?xD

[@VideoGameManiac8]

Nilah in Urf should be removed like Ryze once was

[@viniciusdornelo2878]

Thank God. Now riot will nerf this stupid champ