UPDATED SEASON 5 KREESE VIDEO ➧ kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKLHqoGrbZJ8hKM Remember to be civil in the comments when discussing. What does the future hold for Kreese?
@shadowgoku60092 жыл бұрын
Redemption joining Johnny and Daniel
@the404error72 жыл бұрын
@@shadowgoku6009 I don't think that's going to happen at all. Especially with how Daniel views him and how Johnny came to his senses about Kreeses manipulation.
@shadowgoku60092 жыл бұрын
@@the404error7 true
@ReligiousFanboy2 жыл бұрын
I could see kreese becoming friends with chosen
@donniebrasco13642 жыл бұрын
Depends on how things are when he gets out of jail.
@mokhan95792 жыл бұрын
Martin Kove is an amazing actor and his portrayal as Kreese from Karate Kid to Cobra Kai is insane. I can’t wait to see Kreese’s storyline develop in Season 5 after the amazing Season 4 finale.
@chico17862 жыл бұрын
Also Martin is regarded as one of the nicest guys around. Every co actor said that. He is also kinda a goof in set. Goes to show his amazing acting ability. A nice person like that portraying a character which we loved to hate until season 4.
@jamiescott63502 жыл бұрын
What about the actor portraying his younger self, its pretty amazing they look so much alike, they should of got this casting agent for the han solo movie
@christineperez75622 жыл бұрын
@@chico1786 Pat Morita and Martin Kove were good friends even after the karate movies. They often went out for drinks.
@chico17862 жыл бұрын
@@christineperez7562 I can totally see them just gooofing around and getting a buzz on.
@irvinmorales14092 жыл бұрын
@@jamiescott6350 Funny enough, the diner bully is actually Martin Kove's son.
@bellystraw2 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like Tory is Kreese's second chance. Tory is Kreese's second Johnny you might say. Johnny got Miguel to reignite his fire and caused him to change and I very much feel that Kreese has Tory who seems to have sparked a change in him
@juliahengstermann1932 жыл бұрын
I would love to see him as a father figure for Tory in the next season.
@titan201112 жыл бұрын
I think in a way he sees himself in her. Forced to care for her mother and be the “man” of the house at such a young age. Misguided and irrational because she was never taught how to regulate her emotions, and perhaps she has some angst and anger towards the world. He has another chance to make sure she doesn’t end up like him.
@juliahengstermann1932 жыл бұрын
@@titan20111 I agree. Maybe he get's the opportunity to be the "good Guy" once. The show showed us in the past that everybody can change.
@DSan-kl2yc2 жыл бұрын
I think Daniels wife is a better role model for tory. I liked what they had going
@bmg62292 жыл бұрын
I think the idea is that Kreese is the result of depression and extreme violence He believes his teachings will help his students because of what he's been through, not that he's a good person, but that not everything is black and white
@MaestroJericho2 жыл бұрын
Even then it's really extreme, when Conor Mcgregor threw that railing at that bus many well established fighters said it was disgraceful and shit behavior. He should have kept them in check and not have them act like bullies against untrained kids, no wonder Larusso beat his top guy after a few months training. Barnes could have beaten Larusso too if they didn't play their revenge game to try and humiliate him.
@mattheweuqnicurzeid71542 жыл бұрын
If only Miyagi met Kreese back in the 1960s. Kreese would've been the ultimate Karate Kid.
@jakebradford42723 ай бұрын
Lol kreese then would have hated myagi peace methods
@aaronbarroso4943 ай бұрын
@@jakebradford4272not really. This was BEFORE the military so he would’ve ended up better
@demonitized10202 жыл бұрын
I feel like Kreese never left the jungle, cobra kai’s motto it’s fitting for the battlefield, not the civilian world.
@MaestroJericho2 жыл бұрын
I think Tory is gonna start his redemption arc next season. He's done messed up stuff but seems like he has his own little code of honor when he told Miguel to finish off Eli after Miguel beat him for Mr Miyagi's Medal of Honor.
@dennisardakis58572 жыл бұрын
+Jericho Salazar A redeemed Kreese is a bad idea!
@MicukoFelton2 жыл бұрын
He doesn't need redemption, he needs a life long prison sentence.
@kesenaememere85202 жыл бұрын
@@MicukoFelton snowflake.
@jasonbari59972 жыл бұрын
@@MicukoFelton lmao for what?! We need some kreeses in real life cuz this newer generation is too soft and it’s only getting worse
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonbari5997 Right on! My dad was a Kreece, and he was a infamous mf, but softened as he got older but not to the point of wish washy touchy feely sensitive emotional feminised bs. He was a hard man! But now he's gone, and I now actually appreciate and understand him and why he was hard.. especially with me, and I miss him terribly. I lost my mother very young as well, and with his "parenting" always craved for a real close family, didn't know or understand that at least I still had him, and now I'm actually grateful. Didnt show or speak his love nor care, nor about "feelings," but now I know that he did love and care, it was that he intensely struggled with his own crap, and didn't know how to handle it show it or express it. But did his best. I see that now and makes me sad. And still grieve over the loss. I agree it's gotten to soft mushy weak clingy sensitive wishy-washy touchy-feely can't handle anything these days as well as feminised. And I think it is on purpose.
@durgabhandari93662 жыл бұрын
Honestly, IMO Stryfe is the best Cobra-Kai Tuber. I started binging all Cobra-Kai content but Stryfe was the only one I subbed to.
@freck26142 жыл бұрын
You should watch WatchParty too. Strfye and WatchParty are the best. They should collsb.
@synishere2 жыл бұрын
If you haven’t heard of Tylearn yet, you should check him out. He makes amazing scenarios. I’m assuming you’ve watched Watchparty since he’s pretty much the biggest cobra Kai youtuber besides Stryfe.
@londoncali64372 жыл бұрын
I think Betsy's death (the love of his life) changed Kreese from a real hero to what he has become sadly. But I think Betsy is still alive and Kreese was probably told a pack of lies by his peers, There maybe that one chance where we will finally see Betsy
@MaestroJericho2 жыл бұрын
I think even before the army he was too unstable to be put in the situation. He's really good at his job in the army but I felt like there were clear signs of him being too unhinged where he'd need a really really good mentor in the army, instead he got Cpt. Turner who made it way worse.
@dennisardakis58572 жыл бұрын
+LondonCali Not just Betsy’s death, but also the entire, being a prisoner of war and his captain’s indoctrination.
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
@@MaestroJericho ptsd guilt fear depression anger grief bitterness and mental illness maybe??? If he was unhinged, why didn't they examine him first?? Was he drafted then sent off to bt? That's funny bc they always examine new recruits for knowledge skill temperament psychological emotional mental and physical tests before they even let you in. But in a draft, this could be avoided as they need men ASAP. And seeing it was 'Nam maybe he was drafted.
@Bubaiel Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that makes much sense for Betsy to be alive like wouldn’t she be waiting for him?
@dragonfire45278 ай бұрын
@@k-dogg9086maybe. Of course it's possible his captain could've turned a blind eye to it and wanted to use those qualities to exploit him to become the "perfect soldier."
@darksteal5682 жыл бұрын
The Ending of Season 4 was quite surprising. Turns out Kreese wasn't the Palpatine of the show. Silver was.
@ZerxEdits2 жыл бұрын
Kreese was Vader
@mateoc82822 жыл бұрын
@@ZerxEdits No, he was Count Dooku or Darth Plagueis. I think Robby was Vader.
@Thedarkmickey4 ай бұрын
@@mateoc8282why are u guys comparing star wars to cobra Kai either way? Probably cause of star wars theory huh😂
@alschroed19922 жыл бұрын
Johnny took Kreese back, Kreese took the Dojo. Kreese took Silver back, Silver took the Dojo.
@hollywood123r8 Жыл бұрын
Karma I guess lol
@MichaelNoMyers2 ай бұрын
Almost like the rule of two
@ritchietodd409Ай бұрын
Silver brought Kim in, Kim took the dojo.
@caseyben314129 күн бұрын
Snakes eat other snakes, because they're the right shape??
@dragoneye62292 жыл бұрын
Kreese is up there with Stingray for underrated characters. I think Stingray is a brilliant piece of writing as his character is one who is always being bullied and attacked because nothing he does is ever enough. If this happens enough you eventually crack under the pressure and either do something really stupid and wind up in the system or you stop caring and don't even try anymore. I think next season we will see people realize who they need as student or teacher to continue growing. Kreese/Tory, Daniel/Stingray, Johnny and Robbie chasing after Miguel on that father-son trip they never got only this time it's to potentially save a friend.
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad stingray is in this still, humorous character!
@GerardoSantana2 жыл бұрын
IIRC Martin Kove had to be convinced: “I was only interested in doing this role if he was a multifaceted character.” "I don’t look at him as a villain,” Kove, 74, told us. “I look at him as a misunderstood character.” Looks like he got what he wanted and is pulling it off well I think.
@slashandbones132 жыл бұрын
20:47 Back in 1984, he did agree to and never broke the deal of not attacking Daniel before the tournament.
@NH19732 жыл бұрын
Miyagi was a pushy little bastard
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't let that egotistical spoiled whiny Snowflake start melting before the heats turned on, now could we??? Nooo! 🤣
@JnGArtimation2 жыл бұрын
I kinda hope Terry doesn't get screwed on this. In that "hey, man. I was at peace then you've brought me back and made me the villain". Probably have Kreese come and try to reconcile with Terry. That way, this doesn't end with a middle finger to Terry.
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
I thought Silver had changed at first when he was like "naw man, forget the past, focus on the students" at the restaurant after they were at odds, but after it looks not. Then he attacks Lawrence and tell them to raid LaRusso's house?? It was Kreece as shown to actually soften a little to the point where 1st I thought he was full of it, then 2nd later blew my mind! Then I see Silver do what he does, then betraying Kreece as he did??? Wow..! that got me like on a while new level!
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
Terry did what he did to take over the dogo and because he saw Kreece actually starting to soften a little and it scared him, but with his actions and words kinda did unnerve him a little soon after he came back.
@epicc1o1official2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t wait for this video! John Kreese is one of my favorite villains of all time. He’s definitely one of the best! He’s like the Darth Vader of Cobra Kai!
@dragonfire45272 жыл бұрын
Some fans even considers him to be the emperor Palpatine of Karate Kid/Cobra Kai series. Since he corrupted Johnny, turning him into a ruthless, aggressive bully and years later corrupted Hawk by using his anger for the latter's defeat by the Miyagi-Do students and his recent breakup with Moon. Of course that could also be Captain Turner; Kreese's former command officer from his days during the Vietnam war, since he corrupted Kreese by instilling his ruthless, merciless teachings onto him and using the death of Kreese's girlfriend Betsy to try to break Kreese. And Kreese became the monster he is today.
@epicc1o1official2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonfire4527 true. But when I said “Darth Vader” I meant a Darth Vader level villain. A really awesome villain. I think he’s like like Sidious in Cobra Kai season 3. And Robby is Anakin (hell, Tanner Buchanan looks like a younger version of Hayden Christiansen) and Johnny and Daniel are Obi Wan.
@dragonfire45272 жыл бұрын
@@epicc1o1official true yeah fans have stated that Robby has gone to the dark side since he joined Cobra Kai in season 3.
@epicc1o1official2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonfire4527 he was on the Dark Side in s3 and 4 but he’s back to the light
@vampman872 жыл бұрын
Kreese was the classic "cartoon villain" of the Karate Kid franchise- cold, unforgiving, and ruthless. It worked fine in the 80s but I actually groaned when he made his return at the end of Cobra Kai season 1 because I knew at that point the series would go from morally ambiguous (keep in mind DANIEL was the original antagonist of the series, doing everything he could to stop Johnny from reviving the school, though his reason was valid.) to straight up good guy/bad guy morality like was shown in the 80s. You KNEW Kreese was going to manipulate Johnny and take over the school, and his harsh treatment of the students and how toxic his philosophies were was the reason I consider Season 3 the weakest season of the series. But adding Terry to the picture in season 4 and giving Kreese a backstory, the character FINALLY evolved. He was still a villain, but he began to sympathize a lot more with his students, and the advice to Tori about fighting her own way really struck a chord with me. You could say Terry brought out the best in Kreese, while Kreese brought out the worst in Terry, due to Terry framing Kreese and taking over the dojo himself. Kreese's verbal abuse of Terry throughout the first two thirds of Season 4 kind of made this betrayal obvious, but due to the softening of his villainous character and how his philosophy clashed with Terry's (Kreese- only the strongest survives. Might makes right. Terry- Winning is the only important thing. The means don't matter as long as you win.) I actually have sympathy toward the main villain of the Karate Kid franchise, something I thought I'd NEVER have.
@burmiester12 жыл бұрын
Season 3 is the weakest? What are you on crack? Kreese was humanized big time in season 3 with his backstory
@Hollowmello12852 жыл бұрын
@@burmiester1 this person is talking about season 3 in general not kreese in season 3
@vampman872 жыл бұрын
@@burmiester1 Kreese was given a backstory but the still had him act like a supervillain most of the season. Season 3 did have a lot of high points (Hawk realizing the error of his ways in the middle of the house fight is what I liked most about the season), but the moral ambiguity of whose philosophy was "right" was gone and it was straight up good (Daniel, Johnny, and their students) vs evil (Cobra Kai.). I liked the first season so much because Daniel was the antagonist but not the villain; he tried everything to stop Johnny, but his reasons were valid- he was afraid Cobra Kai's philosophies would turn the kids into monster bullies. And he was RIGHT! Season 4 held that the core philosophies of Kreese, Johnny, AND Daniel are wrong and the students need to figure out a mesh between the three. That's why I believe season 4 was better than 3.
@roundtable35012 жыл бұрын
@@vampman87 I believe each season has gotten better honestly. So while I agree that 4 is better than 3, I think 3 is better than 1. I believe 3 is better because it was a lot more ambitious of a season with far more character development and complexity than just a continuation of the Johnny and Daniel rivalry and it’s effects on a new generation. While you have some interesting points about moral ambiguity and such, I’ll just point out two things: 1. Many fantastic tv shows and movies have been made with clear black and white characters and philosophies and 2. There were important characters in season 1 that were clearly 1 way, and not grey. For example, Kyler had no ambiguity in him. Yasmine had no ambiguity in her. They were important characters, yet were completely black in season 1. I appreciate your points, I just can’t see how the first season is the best season. It’s a great start, but like most great tv shows, future seasons take that greatness and step it up even more.
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
You and me both
@pollandeta26332 жыл бұрын
Dude I just saw the face of Kreese stopping Terry, the genuine fear that he has knowing how unhinged Terry is.
@alter62432 жыл бұрын
Kreese actually parallels Sam a lot this season. Kreese and Sam both grow by the end of the season and end up incorporating what they were reluctant to learn earlier in the season. Both of them "do the right thing" during the fight but end up getting the short end of the stick thanks to Silver. Sam loses the fight and Kreese is arrested.
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
No comparison. She's sheltered and spoiled. Kreece went through Hell as well as bullying and lots of a loved one: dad mother betsy...
@nilehoruseus2 жыл бұрын
Martin Kove is a great actor I really like how he plays Kreese
@kevinmccabe39842 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize just how closely the young actor resembles Kove
@darkservantofheaven2 жыл бұрын
Good casting right
@chuuu46102 жыл бұрын
I didnt even notice his actual son in the flashback bc the actor looked so similar.
@MaestroJericho2 жыл бұрын
@@chuuu4610 His son looks like a brawny ass Captain America type, definitely got his dad's genetics lol.
@briansantosa8079 Жыл бұрын
And also suprisingly the son of KOve is bully the father young version actor. It is like "only my son can bully my young version"
@NDoraku2 жыл бұрын
I like his character change! Without going to much into detail, but there is some thought i have a longer time, even if its only a thought and can be completely wrong. Remember how much the death of Betsy hurt him. Maybe this was the start of everything. Here is my thought, like i said only a thought. Since there are so many theories about Barnes being her dad or Julie her mother: I have an other idea (only idea): Tory could be his granddaughter. Remember Kreese s girlfriend Betsy (like Tory ends with an Y) died in a car crash. Maybe she was pregnant from Kreese, but never told him since he had to go to Vietnam. She was pregnant with twin sisters, Tory s mother and aunt. Those two babies were saved in the belly of their death mother, and maybe her mom is disabled because she was cut out of Betsys belly. That landlord even asked Kreese if he was Tory s grandfather or something. It is a mystery why her mother was never shown yet...and Kreese almost saw her when he stood in the door. Kreese indeed seems to see something of himself in Tory...maybe because she is his granddaughter without knowing it. Kreese only cares about three people, Johnny who was like a son for him, Robby because he is Johnny s son, and Tory. And now it seems Tory and Robby are a couple...Kreese would love that i am sure.
@213chewy2 жыл бұрын
That’s a really good theory
@johndavies55822 жыл бұрын
Interesting.....I think creese dies in combat in season finale after saving Johnny from some drug dealers or something.....I like the idea of the grandfather of tory I could see that
@moonknight40532 жыл бұрын
Real cool theory dude,
@chrisbach15332 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Of course its only a thought and can be wrong. Lets see if Torys aunt Kandace and her mother are twins and look exactly the same. Then it could be true. It would at least explain why we havent seen the face of Torys mom yet, because if she looked exactly like her sister Kandace, the audience would have known already they are twins.
@lawrwncemitchell99552 жыл бұрын
Julie is not her Mother, her Mother is bed ridden and dying of Cancer !!!!!!!
@teen5052 жыл бұрын
hey something i feel like is worth talking about is how good the scene where miguel pulled his leg. That scene in my opinion is the best out of all of cobra kai because of how well it was made the music and the intensity were amazing. I also love how it shows how much miguel cares for johnny despite what he did the night before
@DistortedShelf02 жыл бұрын
I think that Robbie throwing Miguel over the rail was a parallel to Kreese throwing his captain into the snake pit. This show is so well written!
@darwindark25612 жыл бұрын
Kind of hard to compare the two. One of the pairs were in the army together and used the other guy’s girlfriends death as leverage to motivate him. The other pair are a bunch of high school students fighting over a girl. Lol
@DistortedShelf02 жыл бұрын
@@darwindark2561 I just mean the scene in general, not necessarily the characters. I think the biggest difference is that where Miguel showed mercy, Kreese committed to mercilessness.
@MaestroJericho2 жыл бұрын
@@darwindark2561 Yeah Robie freaked out after what happened, Kreese had every intention to let Turner die.
@MicukoFelton2 жыл бұрын
Kreese threw his captain into the snake pit on purpose, it was done with intent, he wanted to kill his Captain. Robby on the other hand didn't mean to throw Miguel over the rail, it was an accident.
@DistortedShelf02 жыл бұрын
@@MicukoFelton I mean, they both acted on anger. I do agree that Robbie didn't intend to seriously injure Miguel though.
@mileshamilton64722 жыл бұрын
kreese's problem is that he teaches military and war values/mindsets to teenagers in a karate tournament
@RickMichaels-if5eq9 ай бұрын
Cool!👍🏽 I wish he was my Sensai when I grew up! STRIKE FIRST STRIKE HARD NO MERCY!!!🥋🐍✊🏽🦶🏽🏆
@Mrballoon2.02 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he is an anti-hero yet. His backstory is tragic indeed and helping Kory show some good side in him, but this dude is willing to kill Johnny twice and Daniel, stole John entire career without mercy. Even though Terry beating Johnny is nothing comparable to his fight with John, but seeing Johnny beating up, make him rethink his life decision.
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
Maybe Kreese wanted to be the one beating Johnny instead.
@irvinmorales14092 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 I think Tory herself is the one causing Kreese to change considering much of her situation mirrors his when he was young.
@Predators--cz2fb2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Kreese save’s Johnny’s life and he ends up fighting Silver. This leads to Kreese getting the advantage over Silver who’s hanging peerlessly from a ledge shadowing his fight with Captain Turner. Kreese finally show’s mercy which as a result Kreese falls victim to Silver’s betrayal and Johnny witnesses this as he is recovering. This would lead to Johnny and Silver fighting to the death with Johnny winning after a hard battle and comforting his dying Sensei with sentimental words bringing Kreese ‘s arc full circle with the final scene being young Kreese meeting Betsy on the other side as Kreese passes away.
@hectorbarbossa44032 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Kreese can become a better man through chozens help and having a common enemy with Johnny, Daniel and Chozen in Silver
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
No. Kreese wanted to kill both Johnny and Daniel. Kreese was the one that called Silver and guilt-tripped him to fight his own battles. "Better man" my arse.
@hectorbarbossa44032 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 Silver is miles worse than Kreese evee was
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
@@hectorbarbossa4403 Silver was fine living his own life until John Kreese manipulated him so he can help him defeat Daniel and Johnny. And do you really believe Kreese, the one that faked his own death twice, took Cobra Kai from Johnny, repeatedly insults Mr. Miyagi in Daniel's face, intended to choke Johnny to death and attempted to kill Daniel? John Kreese is a master manipulator that sweet-talks to others into believing his own version of the facts (remember how he convinced "Councilperson" Roberts?) and incites Cobra Kai students to fight his own battles (trashing Miyagi-Do, assaulting the students bat the LaRusso residence). The only way Chozen should be helping Kreese is by finishing him, as Daniel intended at the end of season three.
@hectorbarbossa44032 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 yeah Sure defend silver just because he didnt do shit for some years does not erase what he did before and after At least Kreese had some good Deeds
@flightofthebumblebee95292 жыл бұрын
The main thing I wanted to see in season 4 more than anything (even Silver) was some kind of redemption for Kreese. I am so glad we got it and I think he will further redeem himself and Daniel and Johnny will help him.
@RickMichaels-if5eq9 ай бұрын
I’m glad that Cobra Kai gives us a fuller scope on John Kreese because I really never looked at him as a villain! He was trained to survive and do whatever it took to win! John Kreese was my favorite character! STRIKE FIRST STRIKE HARD NO MERCY!!!🥋🐍🏆
@jacobshelor4192 жыл бұрын
The greatest evil comes from the best intentions. Kreese certainly meant well with everything in the movies, but his methods were different. Kreese, in my opinion, represents the consequences of war as well as what happens when the wrong way of doing things is perpetuated. Season 5, I think, sees his Redemption, though maybe not fully. I think he helps Johnny and Daniel through Tory. Johnny may be with Miguel and Robby at first, but Kreese finds a way to help.
@paularoysko78612 жыл бұрын
Barret was such a good choice for young Kreese. He nails it.
@Matt039815 ай бұрын
Definitely 💯
@niko51912 жыл бұрын
I understand his past and issues but it does not excuse him from putting all that army bullshit into kids minds
@coopers2042 жыл бұрын
Sensitive much
@robk68312 жыл бұрын
Lol, I would say the entire premise of a bunch of grown men being this invested into karate gangs is kinda bs tho
@JohnDoe-sl6di2 жыл бұрын
@@robk6831 it’s hilarious how they use these kids like pawns in a proxy war to dominate the los angeles karate scene
@robk68312 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-sl6di when it first came out on KZbin Red, I was trolling people telling them that the brawls were from the new Saved By The Bell
@chrystianaw8256 Жыл бұрын
@@coopers204 no, rational
@thereal.xstelia2 жыл бұрын
Young Kreese: we loved him KK1, KK2, KK3 Kreese: we hated him Cobra Kai S4 Kreese: we felt bad or still hated on him.
@csaw2002 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who picked up on this. Surely Season 5 of Cobra Kai will have some kind of Redemption Arc
@phantom708152 жыл бұрын
This is easily the very best breakdown of Kreese that I’ve ever seen. Your video should be the Rosetta Stone on Kreese’s life and intentions. Spectacular!
@shadowgoku60092 жыл бұрын
Yes been waiting for a kreese vid
@boredstudent2 жыл бұрын
Kreese probably had the best character development in Cobra Kai next to Tory. It was pretty cool to see that Kreese wasn't all villain. He didn't show it a lot but he had a heart.
@Reflectionmaterial29 күн бұрын
This series is so epic. Every character is perfect.
@CaspianNomad Жыл бұрын
As soon as they showed his sympathetic backstory and teased Terry Silver I knew they were setting him up for a redemption arc. I can't wait to see it, they've done a great job with his character.
@saltbjorn2 жыл бұрын
His face is priceless when he tries to scare Daniel
@musashibudo3 ай бұрын
A man is a product of his life experiences. Kreese was a good person at heart up until his military service. Seeing your comrades killed, learning that the girl you love has died while you're about to fight to the death over a pit of snakes, killing a man and watching him fall into the snake pit.... all of this would undoubtedly have an effect on the development of your character. I see Kreese as a man who has been shaped by immense trauma.
@slashandbones132 жыл бұрын
Kreese and Johnny have very similar intentions but Kreese is a much darker shade of grey than Johnny.
@jorgebersabe2936 ай бұрын
Kreese is a reflection of the man Johnny used to be in the past: arrogant, ruthless, brash and obsessed with never showing any mercy. Unlike Johnny, Kreese makes no attempt to change his ways.
@marquesjohnson63592 жыл бұрын
This was a really good analysis of John kreese's character it got me to consider things about him i hadn't before and I think that's what a good character analysis does
@poutsamouni54832 жыл бұрын
24:45 i really hope kreese will be in s6 and beyond
@therealtoonlink64602 жыл бұрын
If your goal of the year is to do a review on every main character in cobra kai/karate kid movies, then I respect that
@ericgolden20708 күн бұрын
That’s cool Pascal, I like hardworking KZbinrs working together lifting each other up👍
@EleanorWrestling2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! This video only made me love Kreese even more, he's done some awful things but it's clear he's a good person deep down and his character arc in season 4 was one of the best, he's one of the best characters because he's so interesting - he has so much depth to him, I cannot wait to see what direction they take him in season 5, I agree with you to some extent that Tory could help him get out of jail but I don't feel she has the authority nor the power to do so, I can see her enlisting the help of Johnny or even Amanda/Daniel to help get him out!
@DominickSpano2 жыл бұрын
To me John Kreese is my favorite character. I love Kreese and he will be redeemed. This show is so nuanced. Kreese isn't a bad guy. He is a hero in his own story. BTW I appreciate the product placement at the end of the video not in the middle. That is just obnoxious! Great video. Kreese is my favorite character.
@jeffmurnahan2 жыл бұрын
I never realized how well they nailed the resemblance of his younger self
@cristyoutube2122 жыл бұрын
He s an amazing character,I don t get the hate for him
@king_smoke68242 жыл бұрын
because he's the villain and I ask most people about Cobra Kai and they hate Kreese
@lordoffaiyum97272 жыл бұрын
Did you see what he did to Silver? He caused all of the drama. He was foul towards Silver
@darwindark25612 жыл бұрын
He used past events to guilt trip Terry for years, but still, I’m convinced Terry is mentally ill, and he’s on coke xd
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
Gee I don't know, maybe because he choked a teenage Johnny after he got a second place in 1984? And intended to choke Johnny to death again as an adult and attempted to kill Daniel at the end of season 3? Don't forget that he later calls his pal Terry Silver and guilt-trips him to fight his own battles, and gets surprised when Terry takes the dojo in the same way Kreese took the dojo from Johnny at the end of season 2. Funny that everyone jumps in the "not bad just misunderstood" bandwagon when everyone wanted Kreese to die at the end of third season.
@Russocass2 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 thank you for being a voice of reason. I don't have a problem for Kreese to have redemption, but people watched him do one or two good things and he's already a misunderstood anti hero 😂😂
@gamerboi9000......2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel bad for Kreese. He may be a ruthless psychopath, but he has a good side deep down, like when he treated Johnny Lawrence like a son, and helped Tory with her home life situations. He was also framed by his best friend whom he's known for over 50 years, and he was his only friend.
@Elim-meister Жыл бұрын
I think we could see a redemption arc for Kreese. One way to redeem a villain is to bring in another villain who is more ruthless and unhinged, which would be Terry Silver. Kreese is ruthless, but conflicted and does what he needs to to survive. Silver on the other hand, went all in to the dark side.
@No_Relation_666 Жыл бұрын
The thing is Miyagi and Kreese are similar. Both are soldiers who returned from the war to find their loves dead. But they get differing philosophies likely due to how they were received when they returned
@dananaditya93472 жыл бұрын
In Cobra Kai I always think that Kreese care about Johnny like a father to a son... like a highly strict asian father....
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
Nice racionalization of an abusive behavior. You might as well claim that Kreese choking Johnny is his special hug.
@dananaditya93472 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 nah bro, its not a rationalization its just from my own experience, my parent did that to me they used to throw me to pond at night when i make a problem in elementary, i endure a lot from my parent when i was a kid, they even get mad when my rank go from 2 to 4 at the class. Now i walk with my own feet doing what best for and they regret all of that, and said that back then they dont want me to waste my potential. I hate my experiences but i understand it, they got good intention but with a terrible execution
@fijiunlimited45032 жыл бұрын
Man, awesome connections you made all throughout this video! All these other Cobra Kai analysis channels lacking, for real.
@sunnysaini17552 жыл бұрын
Kreese weakness in Daniel family use Samantha LaRusso (daughter) Anthony LaRusso (son) in cobra Kai train them more dangerous against their father Daniel
@stephenedward6866 Жыл бұрын
Kreese is the Lionel Luthor of Karate Kid/Cobra Kai. You can never tell if he's had a change of heart or not
@MASKEDMAN7122 жыл бұрын
By the time Cobra Kai ends, John Kreese will have redeemed himself. Calling it right now.
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
The only way John Kreese could be redeemed is by dying. Otherwise it is just a cheap attempt of redemption as a way to say "see, he is not a bad guy tee hee!"
@Russocass2 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 his redemption would be to get out of the Valley and voluntarily stay away from kids and schools.
@jsq51432 жыл бұрын
Early on kreeses story is really quite similar to daniels the fact they both are somewhat made fun of by Johnny/David then they beat them up and take their girlfriend I just thought it was ironic how to mortal enemies are surprisingly similar
@TheMegamanVX2 жыл бұрын
Villian or not, what he did in Karate Kid 1 and 3, and season 3 of cobra kai was villianous as you can get.
@kbcinmedusn Жыл бұрын
If Kreese had known when to walk away from Cobra Kai all together, then Silver never would've framed Kreese for aggravated assault.
@emilyalucard2 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos keep it up
@hpa20052 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Kreese and Silver come to blows in season 5.
@hpa20052 жыл бұрын
@@FelixBat True
@pilkers22 жыл бұрын
@@FelixBat with Johnny and kreese it was a pretty close fight especially considering Kreese wasn’t fighting back for half the fight
@ringobingo95732 жыл бұрын
“There are two types of people in this world, those that get angry or those that get sad and that will forever affect their life
@TheMrPeteChannel2 жыл бұрын
Kreese is the Anakin Skywalker of Cobra Kai. What was he wearing when we first saw him? All white. The color of goodness. He will be redeemed.
@tuckerchambers93752 жыл бұрын
I think Robbie fits Anakin Skywalker more than Kreese
@robk68312 жыл бұрын
Kreese: Palpatine Miyagi: Yoda Silver: Maul Barnes: Grievous Julie: Leia Daniel: Obi Wan Johnny: Anakin Robby: Luke Miguel: Ahsoka Hawk: Ben Samantha: Rey
@iloveutubesince32072 жыл бұрын
Get your eyes checked, because every first appearance of John Kreese shows him wearing dark clothes.
@TheMrPeteChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@iloveutubesince3207 I mean in the 1965 flashback which is the youngest we saw him in the time line. If they show him again in say the 50s played by an even younger actor he will probably be wearing a white Tshirt.
@lawrwncemitchell99552 жыл бұрын
The mean Jock at the Resturant, was played by Martin Cove's son 👍💯
@Matt039815 ай бұрын
Yes, Jesse Kove
@brentmontana1232 жыл бұрын
Great summary, compilation, and analysis.
@k-dogg9086 Жыл бұрын
This absolutely blew my freaked mind! 😲 I am legit shocked right now! Is this Kreece???? What a dam amazing series this is turning out to be! So many twists turns action drama and yeah humour as well! This is a spot on review in depth which I love, and a dam good series!
@watch0002 жыл бұрын
Your videos always make my day man, keep up the awesome content! :D
@ArnoldTeras Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think Kreese is that evil... :(
@haanis54582 жыл бұрын
The moment where Kreese let Tory fight the way SHE wanted gave me chills!
@moseslalmuanpuia8988 Жыл бұрын
I kind of blame kreese in cobra kai. He had the potential to create beautiful relationships but he blew it, twice.
@EmmettLBrown20152 жыл бұрын
Martin Love is so great, truly an amazing actor.
@julianbigelow27942 жыл бұрын
Kreese was angry when his star pupil took second place. This is probably because Kreese is still sore about America loosing in Vietnam.
@raffoedub881816 күн бұрын
I met martin kove when i was 10 during the filming of a movie called gentle ben he was in, it was filmed in this little town where we have a cabin in
@coltonowens2742 Жыл бұрын
All I know is Martin Kove is freakin awesome.
@huntergrant65202 жыл бұрын
Im really looking forward to Kreese's growth in the series.
@jack-mb4mw2 жыл бұрын
I didn't like him in the movies but he became my favorite character in the TV show
@thejungwookim2 жыл бұрын
Kreese was just about to get good and then he ends up behind bars. Hope he gets his turnaround.
@jasongotcello2 жыл бұрын
I think Kreese deep down is a decent person who has a big heart
@evilzzzability8 ай бұрын
Kreese is definitely the most interesting character in Cobra Kai.
@kristienieves20912 жыл бұрын
I really want Martin Kove to be in season 5 and seasons past that he was just such a good actor and it was great to see him in the show and he was the first actual villain character in the show
@captainkiwi772 жыл бұрын
Kreese is court ordered into therapy in exchange for early parole, comes out to join myagi do JK that would be funny as fuck though
@adamalrashid90442 жыл бұрын
Kreese is not a villain basically he’s misunderstood very vulnerable and very unstable but then in season 4 he started changing and having sympathy for others which is actually very nice he’s trying to change and to be better person look we all do bad things but it’s better to change and start feeling bad for others I’m going to admit I like Kreese in season 4 he definitely became a sweet guy!
@angelaholmes88882 жыл бұрын
I think john might see mike barnes in prison and while he's their he's going to have to try to find a way to clear his name and take back cobra kai from Terry and also try to fix his relationship with Johnny
@JohnDoe-sl6di2 жыл бұрын
He’s going to see Barnes and Dutch in prison
@axelmok4_channel3912 жыл бұрын
Silver is likely gonna recruit Barnes as one of his senseis, I can see Kreese finding Dutch since he is confirmed to be there when Johnny and the gang visit Tommy.
@john987653332 жыл бұрын
I Feel like, if they continue with this three teams angle, will end up as Chozen and Laruso, Silver and Mike Barnes, and Johnny and Kreese, since Kreese is definitly seeing the error of his ways now.
@rohanquinn2 жыл бұрын
Martin Kove defines what it is to become a character.
@glaivedacier2 жыл бұрын
It's great being able to see Kreese in a different light. Nevertheless, you're painting him in a brighter light that it is _ his relationship with Johny and Silver is run by his attempts to manipulate them. But he gets beaten at it by Silver.
@wojurera31312 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man😊
@casualnerdjason66782 жыл бұрын
The first scene of the Young Kreese episode totally fooled me.
@CVargas202 Жыл бұрын
do not forget he is a war hero. he saved all those POW.
@ShnobbsReal2 жыл бұрын
I have mixed feelings about Kreese having a redemption arc.
@lukethomasdillon37622 жыл бұрын
yeah not every character needs to have a redemption arc
@ShnobbsReal2 жыл бұрын
@@lukethomasdillon3762 exactly
@br0dyj08n92 жыл бұрын
Well that's what the show is all about redemption why do you think the writer's have every character have their own flaws?
@lukethomasdillon37622 жыл бұрын
@@br0dyj08n9 I don’t wanna see every character go from good to bad to good to bad. It will get so boring
@br0dyj08n92 жыл бұрын
@@lukethomasdillon3762 that's your opinion the show isn't gonna change it's writing just so 2 viewers can be entertained.
@chrisberrios5857 Жыл бұрын
After watching season 5 I forgot how Terry had tried to change. For a while it appears that he did before Kreese entered his life again. Although I wonder if it was just an act.
@beccahawkins19052 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the problem with Kreese getting betrayed by Silver was that he “let his guard down” which left him “vulnerable,” though that very well could be how Kreese is processing it still, given his “no mercy” philosophy. I think it may take some time for Kreese to fully deconstruct his “no mercy” philosophy he has ingrained in himself for basically five decades now. Even now with his position in jail. I think he may at first think the problem was that he “let his guard down” with Terry and therefore didn’t see him coming, but I think if he runs into Dutch in prison and gets therapy while there, he may realize that the toxic culture of “no mercy” is what led Terry to betray him in the first place.
@ReligiousFanboy2 жыл бұрын
Loved what they did for kreese during the all valley finals
@karmitdafruge12 жыл бұрын
Kreese is an amazing character and I'm sad he won't be in season 5
@Belisarious5-6002 жыл бұрын
What? Why? Has Martin Kove said he is not reprising his role?
@arronmatsuyama54172 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@Laa_Nari2 жыл бұрын
You should do Hawk next...
@RoweMan2000 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I kinda like Kreese, but if didn't sent Cobra Kai to attack Daniels house and trying to kill Johnny and Daniel I would've said : Well he just troubled man - but he need to show more of his good side in the future so I can finally accept him as one of favorite characters