Why Lego Movies Failed (@RebelTaxi)

[@RebelTaxi]

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[@ImmaLittlePip]

Hope you cover the MLP movies someday

[@Klusterfrick]

Hi

[@zyrkugilgamesh]

Where did you get the Lego Island ost in such good quality? I need it

[@HogartHughes]

godam it i missed the live chat

[@allergictosanity]

you didn't mention Lego: The Adventures of Clutch Powers

[@fightgeist5669]

Because Ninjago aired so early, literally EVERYONE in my middle school was watching it every morning. I remember when someone brought it up in class and we all had this weird realization that all of us were completely caught up.

[@jackreiter7291]

Exactly. We sure as heck weren't gonna be watching Nick or Disney Channel before school with their preschool shows that we were "too cool" for. Cartoon Network was pretty much the only option, and boy did we eat it up. Having it all on Netflix certainly helped though.

[@_addogg]

same thing with Winx Club on Nick lmao. i was lowkey pissed when instead of airing new episodes they reran the same season. I was all caught up by that point but since 6am was such a dead timeslot i dont think they cared. 2012 Ninja Turtles did the same thing IIRC.

[@piccolo54trunks2]

Lol I never liked the show and I still watched it because it was the only thing on. I do remember being blown away by the Zane cyborg and green ninja Lloyd reveal

[@moonbug7252]

I used to stay at my godparents after school a lot and because their son was like, 7, I was forced to watch Ninjago. I never got invested but I remember the reveal that the white one was a robot.

[@kingbash6466]

I'm kinda disappointed that the future Lego movies would deemphasize the lego aesthetics in the animation. Like in the first movie, almost everything from the water, to laser blasts, to even the smoke effects was using some sort of actual real-life Lego piece. In the later movies, they decided to use more tradition animation techniques, and while they don't look bad, they kinda take away the unique look the first film had.

[@iivvrryy]

Can't say the same for the batman movie but the reason the environment felt more realistic in the Ninjago movie was because it was supposed to emulate playing with your legos outside rather than in your basement like the first movie.

[@littletrilly900]

It's Krazy how dedikated they were 2 make it look like real lego, they even animated faint fingerprint smudges on the kharakters and lego pieces, u Kan barely notice it but they still did it

[@ILsocker]

@@iivvrryy I guess it would explain the live-action cat kaiju

[@APinchofBazel]

Not necessarily. The environmental effects would look more realistic to reflect the tone, but you’d still get wonderful touches like bricks being used for smear frames during fight scenes in the Ninjago Movie.

[@iivvrryy]

@Spit Dragon 💚 yeah, no. Not this at all.

[@BugsyFoga]

It’s genuinely sad that these films basically went the way of image movers digital after their last film, Lego movie 2 couldn’t make bank at the box office, maybe if they had spread them out better people would’ve felt less fatigued with them, but regardless the fond memories these films I will forever cherish, and I hope the films made at universal can work out just as well.

[@murderman8578]

Was that movie good

[@sam4gaming135]

​@Murderman85 it was alright, definitely the weakest out of all 4 It

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

I think the main issue is that they were spread out too much. I was 11 when the first lego movie, came out. 13 when Lego Batman came out and 15 when the Lego Movie 2 came out.

[@hyperleap4876]

Yep there's literally 7 months between Lego Batman and Lego Ninjago

[@Elvusmiw]

I think universal is just gonna sit on the rights and do nothing

[@iivvrryy]

Seeing Pan talk about Ninjago, for me, is like your dad trying to bond with you by going "whatcha playin on your nintendo there, son?"

[@RebelTaxi]

👴 I was finishing high school by the time it premiered

[@Princess_-gp3ep]

@@RebelTaxi We understand. 😊

[@iivvrryy]

@@RebelTaxi Fair, I was like 12. Loved the video, friend

[@assmonkeysarereal]

​@@RebelTaxiyou're so old, but if you weren't, I wouldn't have started watching you when I was so young. 3rd grade to senior year baby

[@pedrogabrielduarte4544]

@@RebelTaxi can you make a vídeo about a vídeo about skunk Fu?

[@samuelsolomon7330]

I remember sitting in the theater for Lego Batman, and one of the trailers was for the Lego Ninjago movie, and I thought, "another one? Already? I haven't even watched this one yet." It wouldn't surprise me to hear nearly every other audience member across the country having the same thoughts, especially parents.

[@ToxicAtom]

Fun fact: Takanuva, the 7th toa from the first Bionicle movie, was going to be in The Lego Movie 2, serving as Rex's sidekick/assistant. His whole role was to reinforce the "When you become a big boy, you can only like cool, mature things" theme Rex was all about, to the point of deterring that notion, which was a conflict Lego themselves were wrestling with when writing Bionicle in the first place. The only known storyboards to exist involve a joke where Takanuva is about to outline what Lego did to his franchise (hint: it wasn't good) and Rex cut him off just before he says "The Lego Group"

[@KaminoKatie]

In my reverse AU, I have Rex and Takanuva to be close friends at the end of the second movie as a nod to that scrapped concept

[@KZN02]

Given what we know of Rex in the actual movie, I have a feeing there’s a particular canon Takanuva that would have fit right in with him.

[@Renkencen]

I think that would of been cool but at the same time, the Bionicle Community would of been up in riot in that did they the franchise "dirty" like that!

[@fuzzbuttocks3971]

I hated the idea in the second movie that the boy only liked those edgy franchises because he wanted to look cool and that it almost felt like it was trying to say that no kid genuinely likes the matrix or mad max on their own. Not everything needs to be sanitized or gynocentric either, lego Also fuck the lego group for burying bionicle

[@ToaOfFusion]

I'll admit though, Rex being a parody of Chris Pratt is still an amusing idea.

[@DanBedBy11]

While "studying" 3D animation in Sydney we had this really great lecturer, in fact he was the only good lecturer. He quit a 1/4 of the way through our year because he was offered a lucrative animation position on Lego Batman. For the rest of that year the college could not find a suitable replacement and anyone who wanted to specialise in animation including me was screwed over. When I saw Lego Batman the next year, I saw his name in the credits, it hurt. Be very careful which art school you pick if you want to go. But remember its not the end all be all

[@JeffreyThrash]

It was a hard pill to swallow, but what I learned about life itself when I studied animation in college was that you can’t expect to be spoon-fed knowledge, especially in an industry that requires you to be creative in more ways than just how you draw or make 3D models. You need to make extra time to learn outside of your oftentimes-basic school curriculum, and before people get excited and think “oh, so that means college for art is a complete waste of money and I don’t even need to consider it,” you should take advantage of the single biggest advantage of being surrounded by like-minded people with the same goals for 4-8 years. That is, make friends and potential future A-list connections to the industry while you still can. The Internet is so impersonal now and it is really unlikely that one recruiter that quickly liked your video while casually browsing KZbin on their day off will remember you after also casually liking hundreds of other videos. That weird, autistic furry artist at your school who keeps trying to introduce you to obscure SEGA Saturn games and justifying their fascination with the especially large women at your school may very well be the next Bob Iger, and be your “Golden Ticket” to your dream job if you stay in contact with them after college.

[@buzter8135]

@Spit Dragon 💚 I know this is an elaborate gag but, this was honestly depressing to read.

[@buzter8135]

@Spit Dragon 💚 Goodness you are unhinged, I was exaggerating, I'm not depressed and I really don't care about any of this, but I won't expect you to acknowledge that since your little speech seems to mean a lot to you I grew up on the PS2 and a ton of PC stuff, don't give to me your elitist bullshit, or your crippling insecurities, that's what therapists are for.

[@buzter8135]

@Spit Dragon 💚 what does that even mean?

[@jackdawson5490]

@@JeffreyThrash bro wtf are you going on about

[@My_Legs_Hurt]

Lego movie 2 had a song in it called "This song will get stuck in your head" and ironically I instantly forgot how it went when I left the theatre

[@Inactivechannel-r6]

Same, they did not capture the magic of “everything is awesome” in the slightest 💀

[@jabmaster1000]

It’s funny. That song I forgot but the credits music was what I was humming and listening to on KZbin after leaving the theatre

[@zigzoinks5493]

‘Not Evil’ was waaaay catchier.

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

Catchy song is so funny cuz it's the weakest one in the film

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

I dunno why, but it was stuck in my head after listening to it.

[@trustno173]

The Lego Movie not winning best animated film is a crime. Also, does anyone else find it ironic that Disney and Kathleen Kennedy fired Lord and Miller off of Solo because they did what they usually did (going off script and making a comedy) and then they defeated Disney with Into the Spider-Verse.

[@timbermicka]

Only World's biggest entertainment corporation could kill World's biggest cinematic property. That's kind of funny, in retrospect.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I imagine it was the comedy part that didn’t jive well with that Lucasfilm wanted. I mean, let’s face it - “Star Wars” and comedies don’t seem to go well together

[@trustno173]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 Basically they thought Solo's script by Lawrence Kasdan and his son just wasn't very good and encouraged the actors to improvise. This led to a lot of problems for reshoots, like Paul Bettany's character was meant to be an alien played by the late Michael K. Williams, but Williams wasn't available for reshoots so was replaced by Bettany. I just find it funny they fired them for doing what they do, it's like getting David Fincher to make a movie and then act surprised when he makes it very bleak. Supposedly the Maul cameo was a very late addition to the film, as Disney feared that it wouldn't do well at the box office and felt that since the filthy casuals wouldn't know about Maul's survival, it would be a big surprise and the word of mouth would get asses in seats. With that in mind, I think it's very likely that the Crimson Dawn thing was probably meant to be the Black Sun, just due to how similar they are. One little fun fact, Maul was originally voiced once again by Peter Serafinowicz but was replaced by Sam Witwer, who has voiced Maul ever since TCW. Supposedly Ron Howard just didn't like Serafinowicz's attitude and constant bad-mouthing of Lucas.

[@JeffreyThrash]

It’s Disney’s loss that they keep burning bridges with many of the most talented and, yes, profitable directors of our time in both live action and animation because they only see creative decisions as “risks”-in an creative industry…🙈 More recently, I’m sure Tim Burton is a happy camper these days working with Netflix and MGM to make Wednesday and an overall distinctly Burton-esque take on Wednesday Addams to rousing success. Turns out stifling out the unique voices of your directors is not good business after all, Disney…

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@Jeffrey Thrash Burton's a hack now though, he was making bad stuff before Disney had him under their thumb for a few years. Wednesday is a rare win.

[@Tatertot.]

I remember seeing The Lego Movie with my dad in theaters and we really connected with Will Farrell and the kid. So we went directly to Walmart after to get a Lego set and it was too expensive so we just didn’t.

[@FunkySpaceAlien]

lol, it went about the same for me. "Wow, this inspired me to get some legos!!" >They're around 50 dollars "Never mind!!!"

[@docbrown2687]

I still remember seeing the Lego movie when it came out. This franchise is incredible. And also I don’t understand why people don’t like the Lego Ninjago movie. It’s just as good as the other ones. It’s upsets me to think people think this franchise is a commercial. It’s more than that. It’s love letter not only Lego but unlocking you’re imagination and creativity

[@cheesypoffs2438]

@@docbrown2687 Personally I think its issue was how hard it was for people to gripe about the characters and its franchise. The reason Lego Batman was a bit successful was that it already had an established IP behind it and how everyone could recognize who Robin, Joker, Batman, etc. Whereas Ninjago had to summarize its characters in the simplest way. I can understand how they had to sacrifice that to make it understandable to other audiences like what Pan said and that's probably why most critics believe the film to be weak in its plot and characters. This movie is kinda what started the "Lego Movie" fatigue since it came out 2 years after the Lego Batman Movie and many were starting to get uninterested in its franchise.

[@iivvrryy]

As an avid fan of the Ninjago show and knowing Lloyd's entire arc, what Dave Franco says at the beginning of the video isn't actually that crazy. I fully believe it. Also Pan you gotta cover the Ninjago series I'm begging you.

[@jamstarr]

I think ninjago really did derail itself somewhere in the middle and just got ridiculous, but even with my problems, seeing the finale even after i dropped it and cole’s VA dying did get to me after all those years. I wouldnt mind what Pan would have to say about the newer stuff like monkie kid

[@dylansharp8471]

@@jamstarr "I think ninjago really did derail itself somewhere in the middle and just got ridiculous" Whaut!?

[@jamstarr]

@@dylansharp8471 idk man i dont like being hard on them because i do have nostalgia for it but it did get real incomprehensible and took itself too dramatically for a show about lego ninja ppl. then again thats just me

[@NS-xx1ze]

I dropped of after the movie ironically...them turning cole back to human felt like a step back

[@_vlpin]

@@jamstarr exactly why he should cover it, Ninjago is so off the rails i think he would appreciate it. Also it taking itself seriously part of that "off the railsness" hehe. I love how dark it got later and the dissonance between that and the style

[@MrShinyObject]

My first date with my now wife was going to see the lego batman movie (I don't know why I thought that was a good idea, but thank god it was good and had fairly universal appeal). We watch it every year on the anniversary of the date.

[@doofusdan_]

Alway love seeing people talk about this franchise. I liked how you mentioned that it doesn’t matter what the original motive behind a product is, as long as it inspires others to create then it’s a good thing. I think it definitely holds true as I for one can relate to it. The LEGO Movie really got me into the production of animation and filmmaking. Well, that and KZbin channels like this one.

[@Glory2Snowstar]

Man, I just realized... Lego Movie's gonna be nine years old on February. I still remember being hyped outta my mind watching this masterpiece in February of 2014. It still LOOKS incredible, too, and speaking as somebody who made plenty of stop-motion Lego skits in the early 2010's they NAILED that authentic Lego vibe.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Honestly thought it were older by now

[@HerohammerStudios]

@SpitDragon okay furry

[@jakespeer7221]

@Spit Dragon 💚 3 mil views that u got from just reuploading someone else’s content lmao

[@jakespeer7221]

@Spit Dragon 💚 ok maximum effort time: I’ll be generous and say that every vid on ur channel that isn’t midnight gospel is completely original content (which i kinda doubt but whatever). without those views u have a total of around 254,000 give or take a couple Ks. pretty respectable numbers for ur high quality content! the only problem is that the person u were coming for by boasting ur awe-inspiring view count has over 1 mil views themselves. and the video they got those views from? certified oc. sure it might be shit but it’s their shit. maybe ur generation should learn what misinformation is first. did i just completely waste my time with this? yea totally but u can’t get mad bc u literally told me to lol.

[@ratchetxtreme6591]

“Slow and steady wins the master race” - Pan Pizza (2022)

[@ftrwrwbg]

Always hate that the planned films got shut down. I loved all the Lego Movies to various degrees and would’ve kept going to see whatever they put out the way they’d been going

[@kwayneboy1524]

I'm mad that they cancelled The Lego Batman movie 2 from What I heard it sounded great

[@DM_GLAUCON]

When the first movie came out it was completely mind blowing to me. Years later I've seen so many Lego fan animations using those same techniques. Stop motion styled movement in 3D, realistic surface imperfections, rigged facial animation and compositing in Nuke. Very much in the spirit of Lego for fans to deconstruct these movies and build their own stuff

[@TotallyRadicalShow]

That ending montage was legit beautiful. Wonderful video Pan.

[@MissAshley42]

Pan's montages are always a treat. I daresay they're the parts that hold up the best in his old videos.

[@JeffreyThrash]

This is why I stuck with Pan while abandoning more needlessly-negative and divisive cartoon reviewers like basically everyone else. He doesn’t minimize the hard work and passion that goes into basically every project involving artists even if he doesn’t think the final result is good. He punches up with his humor by mocking entitled fanatics or toxic people who rant about a movie’s message not lining up perfectly with their (oftentimes out-there) political worldview instead of professionally judging a movie or show strictly on its writing, entertainment value or other less culture-war inducing stuff that actually matters. And when he does truly enjoy his video’s subject and celebrate it with a montage, then you know you’re in for one of his best of the best videos. I just wish he’d remain focused on animation, especially considering he has other channels to talk about other interests like video games, but even his worst videos where he tries to normalize his fetishes are more pleasant than overly-serious KZbin “critic” #4,792,885 whining about Teen Titans Go as if it’s still 2016.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@JeffreyThrash Videogames are technically animation stuff buddy

[@JeffreyThrash]

@@KaminoKatie Then he should talk more about the animation or writing/storytelling in games on this channel, at least.

[@henrym4484]

Gotta love them montage’s

[@jackmagic8420]

This video is peak RebelTaxi! A 40 minute video that feels like 20 minutes thanks to the snappy editing and writing, tons of fascinating facts and stories, and a supercut section that hits you in the feels. Bravo!

[@kellanrios3470]

“Do you know what they do at IGN?” *Immediately cuts to Sonic Unleashed music.* I see you.

[@ninjafurret2280]

Pan reviewing the Bionicle films would be amazing-I’m sure he’d go Gaga for Roodaka

[@KaminoKatie]

He would be mad jealous of Vakama being Roodaka's babygirl instead of him

[@wisconsinking323]

Just wait till he finds the art of Roodaka.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@wisconsinking323 Who would find that sexy?

[@persomiissleepy]

Honestly that makes perfect sense

[@AlteredEvil]

8:24 THE BRICKSTER!! I WAS JUST WORKING ON A COVER OF THIS! Dude you 100% matched the background music choices to my favorite related stuff, right down to walrus cove/winter theme. Favorited.

[@kolonarulez5222]

I can imagine a Ningago fan having the movie in theaters felt the same as a Teacher's Pet fan when it got a theater film too.

[@aaronsarchive82]

THIS is a perfect analogy. For the record, I love both movies. People are still way too hard on The Lego Ninjago Movie. It has no business being as good as it is. The quality is really damn close to the others imo.

[@lexicon4974]

What's real interesting is that they decided to cast Charlie day of Always Sunny and Pacific Rim fame into the lego movie was wild at the time, and illumination just deciding to follow that hiring choice for Luigi for the upcoming Mario movie

[@Ihartwalrusguy]

And then they casted Chris Pratt so he can reuse his Emmett voice for Mario. Thanks a lot, LEGO Movie.

[@ajzeg01]

King Kong and the Wicked Witch aren’t public domain. A giant ape that just so happens to be named Kong or a wicked witch that isn’t the same shade of green (It could even be the actual Wicked Witch from the book.) are.

[@APinchofBazel]

It’s WB. They had the rights to them anyway.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@APinchofBazel Except for King Kong which he is owned by Universal

[@blakchristianbale]

No the Wicked Witch character is absolutely public domain, it’s the 1939 film that isn’t

[@ajzeg01]

@@blakchristianbale The Wicked Witch in the book is nothing like the ‘39 film. You can get away with it but you’re on thin ice.

[@Nick_115]

The animation smears still being made of lego pieces is such an insane detail to me.

[@iivvrryy]

"What I feel was missing was more development from the mother" you're gonna fuckin hate her in the show then cause this is the most character she's given in the entire franchise.

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

ha

[@newthejsterjacob408]

Yeah she’s probably the most underdeveloped staple character in the franchise

[@hondaaccord1399]

She was literally a "mom dies" trope where she doesn't actually die 💀

[@dodgerthedudeoriginal]

I remember watching all of these as they came out. Started great then broke down into mediocrity. Sad to see them go. Hope we see a new one soon

[@HeyItsRidi]

Lego, use your rendering tech to make a Bionicle movie. Do it.

[@jacomaniaassuperdriveminion]

Animal Logic did the animation for The Warner Bros. Lego films.

[@ImmaLittlePip]

We need a new Bionicle movie that captures the dark and grim lore of the old series

[@gordogunso]

Or a lego movie 3 revolving around Technic properties, mainly Bionicle! Have the lego movie cast stuck in a new technic/spherus magna realm called mecha mata zealand (a joke based around Bionicles settings based around Maori culture, and new zealand). Would be interesting.

[@KaminoKatie]

@@gordogunso The Universal LEGO movies will have a new continuity since the previous LEGO movies are in legal limbo

[@HeyItsRidi]

@@jacomaniaassuperdriveminion get em on that Bionicle lore

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

Really like the ending montage, really captures how I feel the fundamental trait of these movies are their weird an extreme sense of sincerity

[@Schmuckus]

That transition from the melancholic continue theme to Wonderful 101's Tables Turn gives me the biggest boost in dopamine

[@chubeatle]

Probably one of the few blockbuster animated movies that bring a tear to my eye without them using the "Pixar" method to making something sad. In the Lego movies, the moments that make you cry are the happy moments, those moments where despite it all YOU are still there, still fighting. Such a cool positive set of films.

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

@@chubeatle Yeah, I do find post UP pixar films try to hard to make sad moments because of that films notoriety for it's one to the point it starts to feel artificial

[@catb0mb]

Even if batman is probably the better structured movie, I'll always consider the first one my favorite for not only really getting me truly obsessed with animation, but that message was truly something I needed in my life with an internet landscape obsessed with "cringe culture" and growing up in school having said i was "different and special" only to have people treat ME differently, and as a result just kept to myself in fear of people making fun of me. I related to emmett just being another cog in the machine, blending in so much that people never really noticed him. Its something I still struggle with, sure, but after that I felt more proud of the things i enjoyed and that just felt nice. It'll always be one of my favorite animated films of all time just for that.

[@anamelessyoutuber1462]

I think the big reason why the second Lego Movie didn't do the best in theaters is because what the weather was like at the time. More people need to consider the weather in consideration for why some movies don't do the best in theaters.

[@braydentaylor4639]

It was released at the same time of year as the first film

[@peterfamilyguy2040]

i remember that it didn't got a lot of marketing, lots of people claim that they never saw an ad for the film or just 1 or 2

[@ethanpaul1865]

Yeah, I remember when I went with my family we almost got snowed into the theatre, only just missing the height of the snowstorm that was going on that day by half an hour. The only other people at the showing were a few older people and children, most likely grandparents taking their grandkids out as they couldn't play outside.

[@walrusArmageddon]

Yeah, like if it's raining outside, I got like a 40/60 chance of actually goin to a lego movie

[@Poever]

Don’t blame the weather for its failure. If an Avatar came out the same week as a blizzard, it’d still make bank. Audiences just didn’t care about toy-based movies anymore

[@varibunn]

I just rewarched the first lego movie tonight and that final scene with the dad and son and the audio of lord business' shoes being overlayed as they hugged made me tear up its such a good scene

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

Pan, while they didn’t make a Stretch Armstrong movie, they did make an animated series for Netflix. It had some of the cast and crew behind The Spectacular Spider-Man and ir was pretty good, but it only lasted two seasons and a special.

[@lukaspatrickson4776]

I find it funny how less and less things were actually LEGO pieces as the franchise kept going, to the point that the Ninjago Movie barely has any LEGO pieces in the background.

[@Princess_-gp3ep]

Yeah, even the jungle wasn’t made out of legos.

[@Yapmanpac]

Don't underestimate the Ninjago canon, Pan.

[@newthejsterjacob408]

It’s crazy how the lore spans multiple centuries across multiple dimensions

[@conflictbrooks]

@@newthejsterjacob408 It's got lore complicated enough (and honestly metal enough) to rival the DOOM lore.

[@newthejsterjacob408]

@@conflictbrooks Yeah I know I can recite it all

[@AdahnFlorence]

Thanks for the shout-out Pan.

[@kydv404]

I think something interesting to note about the Ninjago movie is that in early drafts it WAS gonna be canon to the show. Early versions of the story involved time travel (tying into the season released earlier that year), as well as the origin of a few things. From what I've heard, the movie was changed somewhat last minute to this more general-audience-friendly version. There's a lot of concept art and even a deleted/test scene from that original vision. I'm not sure if making it canon would've resulted in a better movie (I mean...this would've tied into Hands of Time, literally one of the most critically panned seasons), but it sure is interesting! In the end I'm actually grateful for the movie we got though, because while the movie itself is far from perfect, I think it did great things for the show. The redesigns look better for the most part (fight me lol), and because certain marketing stipulations required bringing Garmadon back into the show so as to not alienate movie fans (he was dead at that point in the show), we ended up getting the darkest two seasons of the entire series. Because little Timmy's not gonna be scared that Garmadon's little lego guts are spilling out, but he WILL be scared that there is no Garmadon at all. Edit: Also. Clutch Powers. The FIRST Lego movie (if we disregard Bionicle and maybe that one Jack Stone VHS...) That's all. I just wanna mention that that exists lmao.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I totally agree, with being grateful for the movie as it revitalized the Ninjago brand. The new designs and choice to being back Garmadon forced the writers to create the darkest, most intense, hardcore, and raw season of Ninjago ever seen. Seasons 8 and 9 are so hardcore I genuinely cannot believe Lego allowed them to air, like these is stuff in there that I would not want a 6 year old to watch. Those seasons were made for the Ninjago fans that had been watching the since the beginning (like me!) and they absolutely delivered! It was absolutely everything an older fan like me could have asked for, it was the same Ninjago, just more mature and with greater intensity. It was next level Ninjago and I have never loved the show more than during the airing of those two seasons! And of course, in terms of writing, themes, pacing, and animation, seasons 8 and 9 were just top notch. They were masterpieces, some of the best stuff I've ever seen from ANY animated tv show! In addition to giving the show a breath a fresh air (a darker, grittier, hardcore breath that it) the movie also immensely grew the Ninjago fanbase. SO MANY people saw the Ninjago movie and then started watching the show for the first time. The only draw back was some old fans saw the new designs and falsely assumed that this was in the film's continuity. This led to a frankly irrational dislike of post movie seasons stems from a bunch of kids being unable to take of their nostalgia glasses and accept change. And look, I get it. Change is hard and sometimes change is bad. But you have to actually look at the change and see if it's good or bad. And I haven't ever seen a legitimate argument against the new designs, it's just people complaining because they its "different". Either the characters look too different or the continuity is too different (which wasn't even true, these kids just never saw the newer seasons). Again, being different is sometimes good and sometimes but you can't just say "it's different therefore it's bad", that's not a valid reason. But despite all the complaints some Ninjago fans have about the movies, they owe it a lot. I do no know if Ninjago would still be around without the movie. That theme has been around for 12 years now, it is VERY difficult for any new brand to be relevant for that long. But Ninjago has survived BECAUSE the movie revitalized the show and especially brought in millions of new fans. Love it or hate it, every Ninjago fans should at least be appreciate that the movie exists because thanks to it, Ninjago continues to survive.

[@TheFormidibleDan]

The Zoe Kravitz thing does go deeper than Lego Batman and The Batman. She initially auditioned to play Selina Kyle in The Dark Knight Rises, but was turned down for what she claims were reasons of color. Much akin to the "Idris Elba is too urban to be Bond" thing.

[@theultimatesagavan6287]

Did not expect to get jumpscared by TrinaOfDoom's lloyd body pillow. Man, she sure was something.

[@zoeyzephyranthes1598]

the ninjago movie actually started out as a tie in to the show, involving time travel and snakes; as theyre the most recognizable ninjago villains. this kept getting reworked over multiple years, with the only remnant possibly being koko (Misako in the tv show) being way younger. the ninjago movie was also rewritten multiple times in production, even after a lot of animation had been done. A lot of the random clips from the newscast are snippets taken from earlier versions of the film. the original premise was also used to create season 7 of the show, which really shows as it has the simplest plot of any of the seasons. great video as a lifelong lego fan but i also want t oadd that ninjago is 15 seasons *and counting* with a new series starting mid 2023

[@ricardonb6375]

Son of a gun! I just saw the Crystallized Season and I thought it was gonna be the end all season.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

@@ricardonb6375 Don't you worry, more is on the way! It's coming out under a show titled "Ninjago: UNITED". That's literally all we know, here's hoping it's good!

[@Elgatovick]

Am I the only one to see that they got Jackie Chan in an " antique shop" as a reference to the the Jackie Chan adventures show, that the home base was an "antique shop", that was done by WB in the 2000s. He's getting his uncle vibe in that scene lol.

[@drewbarton196]

Oh yeah and UniKitty had her own tv show on Cartoon Network in which it's theme song was performed by Baby Metal, who almost had their cartoon from the creator of Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi. Wonder what happen to that?

[@ILsocker]

Sam Register is crazy

[@MightyMurloc]

I know it was a throwaway line. But, Pan, honestly, I would LOVE you to cover the Bionicle films.

[@Mr.Maguro]

It's funny how a dvd bonus extra of The Lego Movie made fun of the idea of a Ninjago Movie only for it to actually come out and be the worst selling of the franchise. Another reason I feel mainstream audiences brushed this franchise off was the sequels and spin-offs all being released so close to one another. Sure it works for Marvel, but they were building up to something big (and when that ended people got sick and tired of "the adventure continues" format in Phase 4). It sure didn't help that the movies repeated the same daddy issues themes until Lego Movie 2, it further made that 1st movie feel less special.

[@maxleon61702]

A few facts.

[@therandomvideoman111]

I used to watch a bunch of lego starwars stop motion videos that had Eddie Izzard bits dubbed over them when i was a kid. Hearing they voiced a character in a lego movie is actually really fucking cool in a weird way

[@arthurlima122]

17:03 Actually, the Daleks are owned by the Terry Nation State not the BBC, there was even a big problem with the Daleks on Looney Tunes Back in Action since there was going the Doctor Who reboot in 2005 wich might have screwed with the BBC and maybe removing them from the Show

[@anonymous6705]

What I love the most about the first Lego Movie is how it rallies against the idea that original concepts are inherently better than IP-driven stuff. The resistance to Lord Business all insist on working alone on their own thing and look down on Emmett for just following instructions, but when it's time to work together, they mess up because they can't combine their Ideas into a cohesive whole, OTOH while Emmett may be unoriginal, he understands structure, and that's what saves the day.

[@JeffreyThrash]

It’s like the Chuck Jones version of the Lorax in that it preaches working together and balance (although the Lorax was of course about that balance between the environment and economical needs, as of course people who are financially secure, but not to the point of being isolated from people less fortunate than them, have more freedom to consider larger social issues like climate change when their basic needs are always met).

[@blakchristianbale]

Yeah, cuz if there’s one thing we need more of it’s IP dominance

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

I really don't think that's what it's about, it shows all the IP characters as pathetic or jackasses, said IP characters all shut down Emmet. There's really nothing in the movie suggesting Emmet and his ideas as representing corporate IPs, I don't really get that reading at all.

[@NegativeLegend]

This is super cool. I recently started getting back into legos and this is miraculous timing.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Surprised your comment isn't more upvoted

[@newthejsterjacob408]

I actually do suggest watching ninjago then as it’s a pretty interesting series and something you could definitely talk about for a while

[@andresanlozada2495]

Young me was in shock when I realized Heath Ledger's Joker phrase "You complete me" was a reference to a Tom Cruise romcom. Now I'm pretty sure the director did the Lego Batman movie so we dammed kids learned the truth that the phrase is from Jerry Maguire

[@majesticbubbs]

I work at GameStop and hilariously, I see more children ask for the lego movie 2 and ninjago games than any other of their counterparts. I guess those two have found their own legacy to live on through.

[@hondaaccord1399]

The LEGO Movie games were meh LEGO games, but LEGO Ninjago Movie had a really good mix of battle rpg and LEGO segments

[@TheAweDude1]

One thing that really stuck in my craw about Lego 1 was the very end. It essentially said "You shouldn't be tied down with what is 'right or wrong', in fact, if you do want to do something a certain way, that is the wrong way to do it!" Like, the dad wanted to build this massive city, and he should've been able to do that. The ending really felt like it was saying if you didn't embrace the chaos, you were playing the wrong way.

[@pingpong5877]

Anyone remember that feature-length Lego Movie 2 ad on KZbin, where they just looped a song for the entire run time?

[@Tecrus]

18:04 This bit reminds me of when the Van Buren's were trying to recruit Deandra on The Most Popular Girls in School.

[@NetNaviFan2]

I can't be the only one who was expecting at least a mention of Lego Monkey kid.

[@Jonathanest90s]

Now imagine owning a Pan Pizza Lego minifig

[@randytyson]

Cant belive a movie from 9 years ago has effects that'll never be achieved again.

[@Joviaero]

Love the montage at the end of the emotional/message heavy moments of the films. Great work.

[@gaidencastro9706]

What made the original Lego movie work was how it addressed any potential fatigue people might have about the show and company, and still managed to tell a great story.

[@caduceusAutomata]

My brain died at that splitsecond of ninjago body pillows. Help, I need laser eye removal.

[@elongatedlad9692]

I’m kinda glad that you don’t get someone else to edit your videos. You’ve got a fantastic uniqueness to your work that I don’t think anyone else could replicate. A lot of your videos have at least one point that touches me on a real close level. You’re a fantastic creator, Mr. Pizza.

[@sketchycat6223]

The Ninjago fanbase is actually pretty alive lol, the show recently ended but a spin off/reboot has been announced, but we don’t know much about it. Majority of the fanbase do not like the movie or the character redesigns that came with it

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Yeah but to be honest, the redesigns were improvements. They just look better and make the characters more unique. They aren't perfect, but the improvements outright the downgrades.

[@andresreynoso7254]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi nah, it’s a hit or miss, some look better while some look worse

[@newthejsterjacob408]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi I agree I like the redesigns it made them visually more unique my only gripe is that with Nya they gave her the same hairpiece that pretty much all the female characters have

[@albedoweatheruno]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi i agree, at first i was really bummed going back to the series and seeing their new designs but grew really fond of it by the end

[@fluffcake]

The Lego Movie is one of my favorite movies growing up. We couldn’t watch it in theaters growing up because we were poor, but me and my brother soaked up any information about it when we could. It was an amazing time, before Mom surprised us with buying us the movie which we replayed over and over and when our parents got sick of it and took it from us, we just roleplayed the entire thing and had so much fun. It is one of my inspirations as a writer and an artist, the movie is just so good and amazing and helped me think outside the box, and even it’s underlying message still resonates with me today. I still like the other movies, but the first one will hold a special place in my heart and I’m sad there really will be no more other stories with Emmet or Wyldstyle. It was fun while it lasted, and I’m a big fan of Lord and Millers other works.

[@nikolasperez7745]

Anyone else feel kind of sad looking back at how this series ended? Whenever I get a new lego set, I always wanna do more, but I never have the space to buy more sets or the funds to dedicate to parts for custom models.

[@otaking3582]

Ninjago was an unnecessary movie. General audiences didn't care about Ninjago, Ninjago fans didn't care about all the changes that were made, and Lego fans just wanted the cliffhanger from the first movie to be followed up on already. If anything, this is what caused Lego Movie 2 to fail, because after 5 years, people didn't care anymore.

[@KaminoKatie]

Can't argue with that tbh

[@Princess_-gp3ep]

@@KaminoKatie Me too. When Playmobil: the movie came out in theaters during Christmas time back in late 2019, I decided to watch it to take a break from the LEGO movies and i loved it.

[@tylerbertram7065]

That and the fact it was coming out at the wrong time as well

[@skylandersfan6954]

Thing is you couldve made the general audience care if you actually tried to make it conpelling like the source material it was adapting, but they didnt

[@abdelali9279]

I read somewhere that the Lego Movie and Cyberpunk Edgerunners have a similar plot, point and case, they have basically the same character whose name is Lucy as well. "'cause I really want to build you a house" 🎵

[@Elfos64]

The first LEGO movie was about following instructions vs playing freeform and letting your creativity flourish- but the instructions still exist for a reason. LEGO movie 2 was... sort of about playing by yourself vs playing collaboratively, that there is no one way to play and you should be open to additional players and the ways they like to play. I wish there'd been a 3rd LEGO movie about Licensed Merchandise vs Original Products, I feel there's an important lesson about toys in there that LEGO employees can certainly relate to. This idea originally occurred to me like 3 1/2 years ago, and it has become even more relevant since then with all the criticisms that Hollywood is mostly just sequels/prequels, reboots/remakes, and adaptations of prior source material (namely literature and video games) these days, all about big budget franchises and shared cinematic universes rather than original IPs and mid-budget experiments. On a related note, LEGO City Adventures is way more funny and clever than it has any right to be. I've seen every episode of all 4 seasons and still think the show is great. I hope some day, they work up the nerve to make another pass at film, just a bit more deliberate about what IPs the focus of the film is, how it works specifically for LEGO medium.

[@uzunami810]

Hearing Dave Franco talk about how movie Lloyd was his deepest role was just hilarious

[@gnarly441]

That abduction review was GOLD I wish you had made some more like that

[@michaeldavis7767]

Moment of silence for Galedor never even getting a chance

[@PixityPixel]

I have a weird love for these films (except Ninjago didn’t see it) because I saw them when I was first dating my husband when we were dating. We went and saw the first one with his little brother, expecting a bad movie, but we loved it more than his brother did. It’s one movie I can say I couldn’t stop smiling and laughing at. The “Batman” one was our favorite, it parodied the Batman series so well and gave off that delightfully chaotic energy the first Lego Movie had, and I’m so disappointed it never got a sequel. The Second Lego Movie was still fine and fun, but something was missing from it. Like, it tried to target kids more than the adults. All in all, EVERYTHING IS AWESOME. ❤️

[@mayas4625]

I will say for Ninjago, I used to volunteer at a children's library and kids just loved it. The DVDs would always get checked out and I put them back on the shelves more than other kids TV shows.

[@willandwillstudios]

No joke: I predicted the twist of LEGO Movie 2 when the leak images came out by a simple assumption based on the most overused trend in animated films (mostly Disney).

[@GenerationWest]

The only company to speed run themselves to success to failure in several years, WB, just never stop... (I heard Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage Winter Tundra theme... the most beautiful winter theme in gaming.)

[@MidCentury43]

I liked Lego Ninjago. Even if it’s the “weakest” Lego movie, it was still really enjoyable

[@ShinbrigTV]

"That's like aSpider-Man movie with no swinging" You mean Sony's Venom??

[@harmonetheanimationaddict4419]

Voldemort being played by a trans woman is so ironically hilarious in hindsight.

[@cgcurctct8ccottccricorc8rc86]

"woman"

[@powertheimmortal]

yeah voldemort IS ugly. jk

[@WaspCameraInSpringfield]

Well, Voldemort is a child predator who looks like a plastic surgery gone horribly wrong...

[@dylan594]

Eddie Izzard isn’t trans

[@monicore420]

@@dylan594 Literally googled it and first thing that comes up is that she's genderfluid and calls herself transgender.

[@scarfhay5541]

Lego Movie 1 and Lego Batman are one of my favorite animated movies, if not one of my favorite movies of all time personally. The animation, characters, and story for those films are very well done. And the animation done on those films are fantastic especally in how they emulate the stop motion feel we're it almost feels like actual stop motion. I have seen some animators online trying to emulate these movies style and they are we'll done. I also like the designs for the characters as well, especially in Lego Batman with how stylized they are. Fantastic Video and Happy New Years🎉

[@morfufo]

Great video, was disappointed that you didn't cover LEGO Clutch Powers but I'm hoping you review it in a future video.

[@Rocketman1292]

I hope you do cover the Bionicle movies and games next, because it doesn't look like the Lego company is gonna make more Bionicles anytime soon. Especially since Bionicle as used as a throwaway joke in The Lego Movie.

[@blakchristianbale]

They’re literally releasing a mew Bionicle set next month

[@LREHAnimation]

35:20 Don’t forget about shutting down a KZbin video detailing the history of a Zelda game that was pitched by a 3rd party but rejected by Nintendo. Those rascals.

[@wariodedede]

PLEASE cover the bionicle films, I'd love your take on them.

[@alessandroditerlizzi569]

I don't know about other dubs, but the Italian one have all the original voice actors of the series, which make this "meh movie" into something more enjoyable

[@gabe_s_videos]

I like the interpretation of "If you're going to have something that exists for the sole purpose of making money, at least don't stand in the way of people who use those things to express themselves and suit their needs." But the voice clip of Wylde Style saying "Tear down your walls and use them to build something new!" suggests a more "affirmative action" message: don't just destroy the things that restrict you, replace them with something better.

[@anamelessyoutuber1462]

The first Lego Movie is my favorite animated movie.

[@Trevor_NewJerusalem]

Dang. You made me cry, Pan. That was beautiful.

[@advocatusdiaboli5344]

Jackies kids could be watching bro don't do them that dirty OOF.

[@DTGee64]

King Kong isn't in public domain. He's owned by Universal.

[@NeoConnor1]

Universal doesn't own King Kong, just the 2005 remake.

[@MegaCalder]

Glad to see another Rocco Botte KZbin cameo before the year ends

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

37:25 you deadass made me feel tears coming on from a montage about fucking lego movies set to wonderful 101 music.

[@misterzygarde6431]

I always thought that WB games publishing Lego Games was the reason WB Pictures got the film rights I think the obvious lesson would’ve been to space things out. I don’t think we needed Lego Ninjago in the same year as Lego Batman. Given that Universal now has the film rights, they have huge shoes to fill that’s for sure.

[@Oni_Manga_Land]

I love how you made a montage at the end. I have your "Animation Motivation" video saved in my personal motivation playlists, among the TOONAMI vids!

[@jabmaster1000]

I already mentioned this in the community post but I think the Story Pack of The LEGO Batman Movie made for LEGO Dimensions has way better humor and pacing. Check out the cutscenes, they’re great. Even some of the dialogue said in levels is really funny.

[@sheridoncary2602]

1:18 HEY JOHNNY THUNDER IS A NATIONAL TREASURE HE WILL TREATED AS SUCH.

[@Johnmrobinson-vb5vd]

I remember being so hyped for the first one as a Lego loving kid thought it was stop motion for the longest time

[@AutumnRivers]

It's very ironic how The Lego Movie went in terms of movie and game. The first movie was a major success and the first movie's videogame is the best Lego game I've ever played while staying 100% faithful to the movie. The second movie bombed at the box office and had a pretty weak premise with weird plot twists, while the game just copied the Lego Worlds style at the time, was drastically different from the first game, and had a completely different story from the movie. I've played both myself, I 100%ed the first game and haven't played past the first chapter of the second game. Really sucks it went down that path, it had a lot of potential.

[@jessehcreative]

“Maybe some other time...” No, no, no, you cover the BIONICLE movies NEXT.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

To clarify about the Ninjago Movie, when it was released only 7 seasons of the show had come out. Following the film, 8 more seasons were released. The theme isn't even done yet, a new series Ninjago show is being released in 2023 and the fans (myself included) are tentatively looking forward to it. And to dispel a common misconception, the show was NOT rebooted following the movie. All they did was incorporate the redesigns of the characters from the movie into the show. The designs are not even that drastically different and are explained as the Ninjago simply aging up due to a timeskip in-between season 7 and 8. Those who claim that the show is "completely different" or was "rebooted" or now "follows the movie continuity" are those who never watched the new seasons. They just saw the new designs and automatically jumped to a false conclusion. There are people who genuinely think the Ninja having new hairpieces means that they are in rebooted continuity. These people need to b reminded that haircuts exist.

[@fishpop]

2:25 HA! LEGO *did* have a Thomas range at one point so it would've been hilarious to see those sets in The LEGO Movie.