Why Lennox Lewis is the Best Heavyweight of All Time

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[@ARR409]

Whether or not you believe he’s the greatest heavyweight champ, I think we can all agree that Lennox Lewis is the only heavyweight champ who would give EVERY other all time great a tough fight. The guy just doesn’t have a bad stylistic matchup. While I do think Ali and Louis are the heavyweight ‘GOATs’, they still have opponents who can perfectly counter their styles. Norton is the nightmare matchup for Ali, for example. If we’re talking about the ‘baddest’ man in terms of intimidation I think that title will always be held by Charles L. ‘Sonny’ Liston.

[@bigboris5774]

Can’t think if anyone who wouldn’t struggle against Riddick Bowe. 6’5, 240lbs, ATG jab, hit like a truck, fast af, unreal cardio.

[@dinomajetic5461]

Absolutely, he could fight both outside and inside, had fantastic jab, great power, great defence and was extremely inteligent boxer. He'd certainly be a nightmare matchup for anyone and i'd only ever give Ali, Liston and maybe Holmes a decent chance against Lennox

[@amgfresh154]

@@bigboris5774 didn’t he duck Lennox correct me if I’m wrong

[@dwaynscott1398]

@@dinomajetic5461 I feel foreman would’ve been great matchup his chin was better you could argue his jab was better he definitely had more power and imo his ring IQ and generalship is extremely underrated

[@reillyhopf6508]

@@amgfresh154 He did but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have given every other heavyweight a tough fight on his best night.

[@johnf1235]

I met Lennox down in Jamaica, I was at a golf resort in the pro shop and all of a sudden he just casually walks in. Such a nice, humble guy took pictures and chatted. Of course I met him before I ever got into boxing so I couldn’t ask him any boxing related questions 😂😂

[@jse_illustrations]

i think his sanity and humility compared to other boxers of his era is the reason he was so successful

[@rico14]

@@jse_illustrationsHe was so level headed. I strive to be more like him in that regard.

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

I'm pretty sure Lennox would've liked not having to talk boxing with someone for once, he gets enough of that in his day to day for sure.

[@DBIIJ0U]

Which part in jamaica is that?

[@johnboylan3832]

@@DBIIJ0U It was in Jamaican-it-up.

[@PacoFTW]

“He’s bigger. I think he can get it done” As though nearly every heavyweight listed hasn’t smacked around guys bigger than themselves.

[@H-tr1od]

he literally mentions that in the video, he also mentioned skills and styles not just size so quoting it out of context is stupid

[@PacoFTW]

@@H-tr1od lol his main point about Lennox is that his skills+size beat everyone. He may not be as good as Ali or as big as Fury but he’s overall got them in that type of equation. Which in my opinion is vastly over rating size. The size difference between Lennox and most of the greats isn’t a huge difference and he’s nowhere as skilled as Ali and a few of the others mentioned.

[@duncanonme8744]

@@PacoFTW By making the argument he's not "as skilled" as Ali, you show a fundamental lack of knowledge on the subject. In the highest levels of the sport skillsets are varied and thus creates matchups that are interesting. Frazier, Norton, Holmes, and Tyson are all skilled but stylistically differ. It'd be like acting Duran is less skilled than Leonard because Leonard's showy style lends more towards the casual's perspective on skill than Duran's effective close-quarters slipping and pressure-fighting.

[@JRF1004]

@@PacoFTW i do feel like some of the older boxes would be thrown off by fighters from the 80’s - 90’s, the game evolved so much, this generation seems so much less skilled for some reason though 😂

[@donchi1234]

@@JRF1004 There are skilled fighters nowdays but sadly the best ducks the best to protect that 0 so they can make more money fighting tomato cans

[@CarlosMoreno-id8gi]

People put a big emphasis on how much bigger the modern heavyweights are but then we got dudes like Usyk and Wilder who both come in at around 220 and never feel undersized compared to their competition. Also, I think there is an argument to be made that a lot of modern heavyweights might cut more weight if they had to fight a 15 round fight over a 12 round fight. My point is that while Lewis is bigger than a lot of the older heavyweights that isn't as huge of an advantage as people make it out to be. Lewis is certainly skilled but to say he's just outright more skilled than Liston and company doesn't do justice to how a fight might play out. Lewis is forsure top 5 heavyweights of all time IMO tho. Underrated champ to say the least

[@larrysmith5393]

Usyk is 6’3 (half an inch taller than Muhammad Ali) and most people consider him too small to beat Fury Wilder is 6’7.

[@captainthrall]

ya, but you fail to mention the fact that those smaller HWs LOST to the bigger heavyweight just like Lennox would

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

@@larrysmith5393 Ali was 6'4 though

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

@@captainthrall Which bigger Heavyweight did Liston lose to?

[@larrysmith5393]

@@Pedro_Le_Chef No he isn’t, he was listed as 6’3 but his real height was 6’2.5

[@Gygsd]

Larry Holmes should of been mentioned a prime Holmes had one of the sharpest jabs ever and would give Lewis problems

[@Chilltown95]

Basically height and weight was the argument for everyone who was more skilled 😂

[@cross6490]

Yep

[@dieu7905]

There's a single guy who's more skilled and appart from that he's bigger and just as skilled/better than anybody else.

[@deathstarresident]

Frazier has fought bigger and taller guys all his life. It doesn’t make sense to simply say Frazier looses because he is short. Shows he doesn’t know much about these boxers of the golden era. Frazier obliterated one of the fastest versions of Ali. He really think Lennox Lewis gonna evade Frazier’s power

[@OmarKozuki]

@@deathstarresidentFrazier never fought the « fast » ali.

[@deathstarresident]

@@OmarKozuki Just because he was inactive for 3 years doesn’t essentially mean he lost his speed. Ali was 29 and undefeated when he fought Frazier the first time and lost. For a heavyweight that’s the age they start peaking physically. But you might have a point, I think he had fought twice in 1970 (the year before) and Frazier was his 3rd fight in 6 months. That may have taken a toll on his body

[@henriklarssonstanaccount5599]

I actually agree with your thesis that in a 10 fight series, Lennox probably beats anyone. I’ve actually said the exact same thing myself before. But I have to take issue with your saying that Oliver McCall had a breakdown and cried because Lennox was so good/‘bad’. Oli McCall was suffering majorly from addiction and mental health issues and had been literally pulled out of rehab to fight without him wanting to. Lennox played no part in what happened to Oli that night. If you’d put him in with a cardboard cut out he’d still have had a breakdown. Other than that one thing, this was a really great video. Please keep it up

[@lummox4297]

Lennox never met a decent fighter in his prime

[@randysingh9334]

If Oliver came in ready he could beat Lewis again.

[@lummox4297]

@Elis RF He met Holyfield (Pound for Pound Number 1 in the world 1993) born 19 October 1962 in late 1999.....Speaks for itself, pretty much, doesn't it?

[@lummox4297]

@@randysingh9334 Easily, Lewis had no chin

[@lummox4297]

@Elis RF Vitali was mainly from a kickboxing background (6 time world champion) not boxing. Chris Byrd's "victory" over Vitali is more legit then Lennox's because it was him that quit, not the referee. Vitali's cut was no worse than Fury's when he fought Otto Wallin and both were from punches. Why was one stopped but not the other? As a 40 year old, Wladimir signed to have a rematch with Tyson Fury in 2016 and it was Fury who ultimately ducked. As a 37 year old Lennox ducked Vitali despite his eye being independently cleared to fight by a doctor of Lewis's choice but Lennox refused Why? Lennox Lewis fought the 1993 Pound For Pound Number 1 Fighter Evander in November 1999 when he was 37 and washed up. Why? Likewise, he didn't go near 1990 p4p Number 1 Mike Tyson until 2002. For refusing rematches (when it suits) and fighting people years or in Tysons case decades out of their prime Lewis gets zero credit from me

[@name8731]

No mention of Vitali? The guy who was out boxing and out fighting Lewis, taking his best shots and still coming forward, was up on all the score cards, arguably won every round, seemingly dragging Lewis into deep waters he was more suited, lost via a cut and had Lewis ducking a promised rematch.

[@TheHuskyK9]

Lewis was out of his prime and Vitali was in his prime when they fought. Also, Vitali refused to fight outside of the WBC, not once ever tried to go for undisputed, often ducking Valuev and definitely didn't go after the WBO & IBF belts before his brother got them.

[@dh-1501]

A career heaviest, out of shape, 1-year inactive, 37-year old, past prime Lewis walked a prime 32-year old Vitali down and turned his face into a pepperoni pizza. A prime 32-year old Lewis would have ended Vitali’s career

[@name8731]

@@dh-1501 Walked down...he looked like he was going to get finished multiple times and had to go out banking on a doctor's stoppage and still lost the rounds.

[@dh-1501]

@@name8731 He was winning until he lost. Actually, he was spent by round 6 and was getting peppered with huge uppercuts and overhand rights. His eyeball near carved out by someone who was fat, old and inactive. A bit embarassing. I rate him by the way, but he will never be greater than Lewis

[@name8731]

@@dh-1501 Stop trying to fool yourself. Lewis landed a good right to open up the cut and a good uppercut that Klitschko walked through, that's it. The rest was Klitschko.

[@erikvaldes4293]

That Mccall take igorant asf. Guy had been on crack for years and was not right mentally especially going into that fight. These guys fight for a living, they’re not gonna break down in tears over a loss or a beating.

[@granddya5323]

Yeah hearing him say McCall was crying of him getting outboxed instead of the drug use and his demons following in the ring that caused his breakdown was the worst opinion of the fight I have heard lmao.

[@hombre-lobo5673]

McCall himself said it was his strategy to lure Lewis and McCall complained that referee didn't give him opportunity to do "his thing" as for his crack addiction, who cares really? Lewis had no excuses after his loses, what if he was just in a bad mood going into those fights?🙂

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

@@hombre-lobo5673 if you haven't watched the fight it's pretty clear that he had terrible mental health issues. People don't just break down emotionally like that without something seriously wrong going on in their life. McCall wasn't the kind of guy to look for a way out. He's known for being perhaps the most resilient fighter ever. The man's chin is probably the greatest in history. He wasn't worried about getting hurt.

[@hombre-lobo5673]

@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi watched full fight, he got frustrated because he couldn't land another lucky punch, and Lewis was landing some bombs on him. McCall quit against Tyson during their sparring session there is a video on KZbin if you are interested. He was always vulnerable mentally. McCall has the best chin in HW, no doubt about that👍

[@granddya5323]

@@hombre-lobo5673 He only said that to save face afterwards. Same thing to Mike Tyson apologizing to Holyfield about biting his ear a day afterwards. Besides, the psychiatrist that allowed him to fight thought he was fine (despite the 11 monthes of drugs and constant rehab show otherwise). A second psychiatrist months after the fight would later show he was still mentally ill. If it was truly crying over Lewis outboxing him, why didn't he break down the same way in the other 13 fights he lost lmao.

[@joser5741]

You forgot the main man Larry Holmes 😢

[@wetalksports1128]

Yes!

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

This guy is a total casual tbh, doesn't know his boxing that well yet pretends he's some expert.

[@Wonderkid44]

Lennox was bigger and did everything just that little bit better than holmes

[@-obamium5320]

I was about to ask about him

[@heyheywhatup]

@@Wonderkid44 Holmes had better stamina, better hand speed, better footwork and a better chin.

[@ThaRealCowboibishop]

Well TJ may love fights but he doesn't know boxing 😂

[@J.R.Savage]

I have Lennox pretty high up as far as best HW boxers go (probably 2) and you made some great points. But I think you rely too much on his size, and never question his chin. Don't forget he was knocked out by Oliver Mccall in the second round of their first fight. Also it is well known that Mccall was going through personal issues and had a meltdown because of those said issues, and he may have some mental issues going on as well. Going back on his chin, Mccall is pretty strong no question, but imagine what a prime Foreman, Mike Tyson, or even a present Deontay could do. Just because Ali was able to weather George's storm does not mean that Lennox is able to do the same with the same effect. In fact I don't think any boxer has Ali's durability.

[@B.Wayne88]

​@@greenfields1221 According to the rules it was a KO if you don't beat the 10 count. But yes technically not knocked out unconscious though. Fighters say a lot of things especially when it comes to losses. He also called Rahman and McCall lucky punches. Which is a bad excuse and there's no such thing in boxing as a lucky punch. I highly doubt he could've continued. He could've been seriously hurt his legs were wobbling and he leaned on the Ref that's against the rules. Imo and many others the Ref saved him from further punishment and humiliation. Credible guys in the sport like Gil Clancy. Said Lewis would've fell if the Ref wasn't holding him up. Even if the Ref allowed it. There's not much Lewis and his trainer would be able to do in the next two rounds against McCall and Emmanuel Steward. That was the correct appropriate stoppage.

[@B.Wayne88]

@@greenfields1221 Okay thanks. I've seen it scored KO and TKO. Boxrec is more credible site though. I've had some problems with it in the past. Some were confused by there rankings. But no huge problems. You're right will never know. I'm just saying the majority and credible people in the sport. Don't think it would've went that well and it was a appropriate stoppage. Steward would've just shut Lewis and his trainers game plan down again. One of the reasons Lewis fired his past trainer giving him terrible advice in that fight. Imo that Bruno fight was a slop fest Lewis slipping throwing wild shots the excessive rabbit punching by both. Then finally Bruno running out of stamina his jab and Lewis power shots was the only thing consistent in the fight. Don't get me wrong entertaining style but flawed with bad habits. Emmanuel Steward changed his game for the better. Steward a great offensive coach had a knock too and criticism as a bad defensive coach. Tommy Hearns, Michael Moorer, Gerald Mcallen and other Kronk fighters had leaky defense and would suffer vicious KOs. Lewis and I guess the Kiltchos too were sort of exceptions.

[@B.Wayne88]

@@greenfields1221 He most likely was hurt by Bruno more longer grueling fight. When you're knocked out or stun like that it doesn't exactly hurt your senses and legs just go. Foreman kinda explained this with Lyle. But I feel like everyone in boxing or personal experiences knows getting knocked out doesn't necessarily hurt. Surprisingly Bruno had huge fists even for boxing. He's like in the top 10 biggest hands in boxing 13in I believe under Primo and Liston followed by Bowe and Lewis.

[@B.Wayne88]

@@greenfields1221 Well of course you get your senses back rather quickly when you're not fighting. Reminds me of this one fighter I seen that got upset at the Ref stoping the fight despite falling all over the place. He got in the refs face told him he was fine. Ref replied no shit you're not fighting at the moment you've had time to recover. Idk if it was exactly 10 seconds. He had his arms out looking at the crowd in shock but was still in the refs arms leaning against him. Lewis had plenty of time to recover before they interviewed him after the fight. Again will never know. But imo even if he continued Steward and McCall would put him back in that same spot again and most likely end it in the next two rounds. Unfortunately

[@B.Wayne88]

@@greenfields1221 I wouldn't say no way like you said will never know. Steward did a breakdown of Lewis's style in the HBO pre fight for the rematch. He pretty much said he had Lewis's style beat and said that Lewis was nervous that McCall was crying before the fight and couldn't figure him out. Imo there's nothing Pepe and Lewis would've done against McCall and Steward it was even apparent in the first round. Styles make fights. Buster Douglas beat McCall too. Just because someone has five losses doesn't mean they'll necessarily lose the next big fight that's what upsets are for. It's like saying Lewis can't beat prime Tyson Bowe and Holyfield or other Greats because he lost in devasting fashion to two perceived journeymen. That's not how boxing works at all. Mercer is in that discussion of greatest chins. But Holyfield was the first one to put Mercer on the canvas. Lewis couldn't do that with Holyfield or Mercer and he has twice as much punching power as them. Holyfield is perceived to have no punching power atleast by Foreman despite him dropping Mercer, Tyson, Bowe and others. Foreman unfortunately was pointed out for his harsh comments and bitterness towards Holyfield over the years after his first lost to Bowe and third lost. He was even corrected for his blown-up cruiserweight statement by Jim Lamply of all people saying you didn't beat him. Foreman had more stamina than he did in his prime and couldn't even drop Holyfield. Like I said styles make fights.

[@societybelike]

Bold statement TJ, but you've always proven you can argue your case

[@donaldsimmons4526]

No he doesn’t he’s giving Lewis attributes that he flatly didn’t have such as power, IQ, speed etc and then banking on those to make false statements. This is a damn joke

[@contentcop]

@@donaldsimmons4526 you seem like the kinda guy who thinks Ali would beat any modern fighter and that Bruce Lee was a legend as well

[@contentcop]

@smoothcritical1 so what your saying is if wilder didn't have power he'd still fight fury 3 times? Bold statement

[@ymcmbgod1433]

@@contentcop you comment like an npc

[@cheeseball5030]

@@contentcop Bruce Lee is a legend.

[@EFCkingTom]

Why was there no mention of Larry Holmes? Prime Holmes gives anyone major problems at HW. IIRC, he’s the longest reigning heavyweight of all time. That being said, I believe Holmes and Ali and would would probably give Lennox his biggest test. Prime George Forman would have probably given him issues as well if he had learned all those techniques he used in the 90s during his prime.

[@yungbane6625]

Ken Norton too and possibly Earnie shavers

[@lntxp01]

Joe Louis is the longest reigning heavyweight champion and boxing champion in general. I think Larry Holmes is second though.

[@jonskitch8082]

What is holmes going to do? Evanda and Tyson both battered him!

[@EFCkingTom]

@@jonskitch8082 yeah he was about 40 when he fought both of them.

[@user-vb4rc8tt6n]

For sure. 1.Ali 2. Louis 3.Holmes

[@Supermegaultimate]

Just found this channel, so far amazing content love the simple editing and interesting topics. Keep it up bro

[@Theguyman]

Really enjoy your content. I would love to see a whole video on lomachenko. As always, thanks for the content

[@unclefester831]

Lennox Lewis (6'5"/195 cm) has beaten the best guys of his era including both Holyfield & Tyson. He avenged both his losses & is the last undisputed heavyweight champion in boxing. Lennox Lewis was a savage with technique. Mind you I grew up as a Mike Tyson fan but I acknowledge how good Lennox was.

[@shaunbat5097]

Lewis is a Great champion. On reflection as I grew up after being a Tyson fan I realised he fought many less level opponents and avoided top fighters Bowe Morrison Tua Mercer Ibeabuchi Foreman the Klitschko's Rahman Briggs etc. Compare The Lewis CV it says it all.

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@shaunbat5097 but if you look at Tyson's reign in the 80's he did a great job. In the 90's it was just a twilight Tyson. And it was his own fault. Still, 2nd best heavyweight of the 80s.

[@lummox4297]

Holyfield was 37 in 1999 and according to Emanuel Steward was a "shot fighter" in 1997 two years earlier and was robbed in the rematch. Tyson was a "shell of his former self" according to Steward in 2002. Lennox Lewis never faced Tyson of Holyfield at 30% of their best, if he did he gets knocked out very early

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@lummox4297 "if" doesn't exist. Tyson ducked Lewis twice in 1996. In 1999 the odds were close between The Real Deal and Lewis. And you must be kidding if you think Holyfield was robbed in the rematch. No way he won more than 5 rounds.

[@lummox4297]

@@MaccaveliPLWho is Lennox Lewis in 1996 anyway? He'd lost his WBC Paper Title at that point. Washed-up post prison Tyson never ducked Lewis once let alone twice. Serial ducker Lennox Lewis declined a $13m guarantee to fight Mike Tyson in 1996. Firstly, Tyson fought Bruce Seldon who could actually make it to 9 rounds against Oliver McCall. He was also capable of knocking out the washed-up drug addict Tony Tucker in 7, something Lennox wasn't capable of doing in 700 rounds. Lewis went life and death for 12 rounds with this washed up drug addict tucker. Lennox Lewis got knocked out in 2 rounds against Oliver McCall. Unlike when McCall knocked out Lennox Lewis, Tyson's punches would have been brutal and ended Lennox's paper title career. Lennox Lewis wasn't even considered as a credible opponent for Mike Tyson and had a 0% chance of beating him. It would just be another Tyson walkover Lennox had, like the great Angelo Dundee said about him in 2003 a "china chin", or as he put it "absolutely anybody had a shot at beating him" let alone Tyson!. Frank Bruno also said a 60% Mike Tyson (like in 1996 not 2002 on zombie meds.) would be too much for Lennox Lewis and would walk through him. I would rather listen to them Serial ducker and cherry-picker Lennox Lewis didn't lose to Evander Holyfield, he actually lost to Evander Oldy-Field (born 19 October 1962) in November 1999. Prime Evander Holyfield would be another career ending knock out for china- chinned paper champion Lennox Lewis. 1999 Evander Holyfield and 2002 Mike Tyson both "shot-fighters" according to Emanuel Steward is a joke

[@LWkg56]

Interesting but just to point out Oliver McCall crying had less to do with Lennox beating him up and more to do with his life falling into turmoil he is truly one of those what if kind of fighters had King never got to him and had he stayed away from heroin and stuck with Manny Steward what a beast he could have been he’s famous for being sparring partners with Tyson and never being knocked down .

[@DIDGET220]

I watched McCall fight in person. In 2018 in Corpus Christi against Larry Knight. My uncle told my dad and I if we wanted to watch a boxing match live and we said sure, go over to the arena and watch a few matches, entertaining but nothing too special. Then I heard “former heavyweight champion of the world, Oliver McCall” and I was like “former heavyweight champion of the world”? Did I hear that right? And man the other guy started off strong but the sheer power of McCall’s punches were otherworldly, it echoed throughout the place. The other guy started off super aggressive but once he felt McCall’s power he just shelled up and tried to survive. McCall is insane.

[@reboot8302]

No mention of Holmes is crazy. He shares many of the advantages Ali would have over Lewis, while also having skills that Ali lacked. Also Lewis' rematch with Holyfield was no domination. the older Holyfield put up a solid effort and in the opinion of some, either drew or won that fight.

[@meeknuggets4860]

many think lewis should have won the first fight and the 2nd one was a draw if anything.

[@brocklanders3616]

I had the second Lewis fight a draw as well. Alot of fight fans had Lewis losing to Mercer, that one I had a draw.

[@stephenterranova8455]

I scored the first fight 7-5 Lewis and the second 7-5 Holyfield. Lennox taking a safety-first approach to fighting the reigning 3-time unified champion in the first fight cost him that win and it seems the judges were intent to assure that this was corrected in the second fight. Either way, if I score a fight 7-5 I can see how someone else could have it 6-6.

[@lummox4297]

Holyfield got robbed. Prime Holyfield stops Lewis quickly

[@circleinfinite]

Emmanual Stewards said larry holmes was his second best HW of all time after lewis. If you go back and watch, you can see why. Ali was great but had many technical weaknesses. (a lack of uppercut being a issue) Larry had as high an IQ measurable in any historic HW.

[@a1_med]

really love this channel keep it up

[@coltonjohnson9047]

Oliver didn’t breakdown BECAUSE of Lennox but he was going through some shit

[@trisb6216]

Don't necessarily disagree overall, but the argumentations are just asumptions. For example saying he is bigger, therefore he will use his size advantage and keep him on the outside. Of course that would be the plan but no reasons given to why he would be able to infroce that

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

TJ is a decent voice in the boxing community but his understanding of boxing's technicalities is extremely simplistic.

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

Lennox Lewis didn't make Oliver McCall cry and quit, Oliver McCall's terrible mental health issues were behind that episode and it's not to be made light of frankly. The guy was in a dark place and it showed on the biggest stage in his life.

[@ruggeddrelouris3597]

What made Lennox great is that he could fight on the inside the outside & mid range, plus he could throw two or three different variations of the 4 basic Punches to mix the punches like an pitcher would throw baseball pitches...

[@FLASHAHOLIC_TV]

No boxer ever could land accurate power from as far away as Lewis.

[@jjunbeatable9522]

Finally somebody who talks about how underrated Lennox Lewis Is 👏 🙌 😤 But Lewis goes 6-4

[@fr0ntend]

underrated? wtf lol

[@jjunbeatable9522]

@@fr0ntend what do you mean, how many people do you actually know talk about lennox Lewis compared to like Mike tyson or like canelo

[@fr0ntend]

@@jjunbeatable9522 how many you say? How about pretty much every experienced boxing fan there is? Lennox was amazing during his prime, and everybody recognizes this. You will not find a top 5 best ever boxers list without Lennox in it. In fact, I am sure if you do look around a bit you'll find more people that'll claim he would beat Tyson (prime v prime) than the other way around. Canelo isn't in the same weight class so comparing those two is rather ridiculous.

[@majin-ny]

@@fr0ntend among casual boxing fans he’s not talked abt nearly as much as Tyson, canelo, Ali or fury

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

@@jjunbeatable9522 casuals don't know Lewis that well but pretty much all boxing aficionados would rate Lewis well above the likes of Tyson, perhaps even a fellow great like Holyfield.

[@davideccles8903]

His jab was a serious problem to everyone, such along reach and was so accurate and heavy it would upset many boxers almost make them go at him with desperation were it would leave them open for a hard right .

[@artyompopov7741]

What an achievement for 2m height jacked heavyweight!

[@liverpunch]

Lewis is the master of the jab

[@jonskitch8082]

Sharp raking jab and that over right destructive hand!

[@thegodfather1924]

​@@liverpunchHolmes have better jab.

[@fmills1583]

Did I miss the portion of the video of Larry Holmes vs Lennox Lewis?

[@johnmichel4865]

You've just made a video saying exactly what I've always said about Lewis - he has the lot. A lot of people don't appreciate how good he was. A beast.

[@thegodfather1924]

Yeah he was great but Lewis isnt the greates boxer.

[@jakeembrooks2014]

Damn TJ can win an argument with his wife🤣

[@benmck10]

i've watched all of his fights. the combination of skill, size, and natural athletics made him unstoppable. He is truly the HW Goat

[@autosemimatic6071]

not even close to the HW Goat

[@reillyhopf6508]

Ali and Louis are head and shoulders above every other heavyweight to ever live in greatness. There is no one else in the discussion for the hw GOAT, they are that far ahead of everyone else.

[@vince11harris]

@@reillyhopf6508 Ali is top 10 but not the goat

[@reillyhopf6508]

@@vince11harris you are almost sure to be insane if you think Ali isn't the hw goat with only Louis being a valid alternative. There are also very few boxers P4P ahead of him.

[@crabb9966]

Did greats like ali, frazier and louis have trouble with fighters like mccall, rahman and ray mercer?

[@hazy4935]

It's great to see he stuck around to commentate on matches he's surprisingly good at it

[@TC0901]

THANK YOU. GREATEST =/ BEST

[@achavez78]

TJ... My man..the time has come for a Livestream! Let's make it happen. Support from Yuma, Arizona!

[@ZBOXINGTALK]

Top 10 all time heavyweight no question. The Prime Liston would have been a nightmare for Lennox imo. The best version of Ali vs the best version of Lewis would have been incredible but I believe Ali finds a way like he always did and wins.

[@isaiahcoleman7827]

That is true Ali would have watched him box looked at his style and he would have beat him like he did all the others, first his using one arm to sit a guy up then throw a right, that style would not have gotten Ali. He would not have hit his head that many he would have moved because he was quick, no one was never fast,

[@user-ux3rt7ud2x]

I also belief that sonething like 7-3 for ali

[@rico14]

I think y’all are understating how much the size difference would make. The old champions could still beat a lot of the huge guys in the top 10 today just, because there that much better. However when the skills are comparable the bigger man will more than likely win.

[@TheMassiveGamer]

@@rico14 Lewis is barely two inches taller than Ali. Also, Lennox's chin was good but not great, while on the other hand, Ali has arguably the greatest chin ever and the best motor ever. Given that, plus, how he was past his better days, yet, ran through the golden era of boxing and I just can't see Lennox beating him outright. Would be a good fight though.

[@rico14]

@@TheMassiveGamer Lennox vs Ali would more than likely end in a decision, so I think Lennox’s skill and size advantages would beat Ali’s speed advantage. I don’t think either guy would probably ko each other though.

[@justified_wrath_21]

I’m just glad someone else realizes Lennox Lewis beats fury.

[@hemmydall]

Interesting. Lennox is similar to Foreman but with a British style of boxing imo. As for "size" in boxing heavy weights are definitely special. You got dudes like Primo Carnera at 6'6" and 320+ lbs (highest number of KO wins in heavy weight history) back in the day getting KOd by much smaller dudes. Anthony Joshua reminds me a lot of Lennox, but all around lesser. Its a simple style but its highly effective. Lennox even had his own Ruiz fight in Tua, and it went way better for him.

[@youngboy2pacdrake]

wrong opinion

[@rightmunted7538]

I think what made Lewis so dangerous is he had the strength, size and speed to go down as a goat without fighting smart, but chose to fight as cautiously as he would if he was small and weak.

[@krugersavage6347]

For real, I think this also is one of the factors why it seemed at times that he had a questionable chin.

[@redlizerad8268]

@@krugersavage6347 I don't think his chin was that good regardless but yeah Lennox Lewis is low-key kinda underrated when it comes to GOAT of HW conversation.

[@rightmunted7538]

@Greenfields 12 That's kindof what I meant, when he knew he could walk through somebody he would but when somebody came up that could give him trouble he played it super intelligently.

[@youngboy2pacdrake]

@@rightmunted7538 ​ wrong opinion

[@rightmunted7538]

@@youngboy2pacdrake Okay what's your opinion then?

[@dinomajetic5461]

I personaly can't put anyone above Ali but i always had Lennox as my top 3, a true complete boxer that basicaly cleaned one of the best heavyweight eras ever

[@nmarcus7233]

You argue it so well. I likebthe way you considered who'd challenge him most from all the eras. It shows you trully love to learn about the sport on all its nuances.

[@GRF64]

Personally my top 10 heavyweights in a head to head sense are: 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Lennox Lewis 3. George Foreman 4. Larry Holmes 5. Tyson Fury 6. Sonny Liston 7. Mike Tyson 8. Oleksandr Usyk 9. Riddick Bowe 10. Evander Holyfield Obviously styles make fights but that's my top 10. With Fury its largely unknown how he does against smaller, quicker heavyweights. Hopefully the Usyk fight gives us a better picture.

[@bondsgoat25]

⁠@@Dylan-uz4nqHolyfield has to be on the list, the level of competition and names while both being older for a majority of his run at Heavyweight and smaller as a natural Cruiserweight, sometimes even being outweighed by 20-40 pounds, was insane. He beat Foreman, Bowe, Moorer, Tyson, Ruiz, Rahman, Mercer, Holmes, Buster, Dokes, Thomas and had a much more competitive fight with a prime Lewis then TJ would care to admit!

[@owenwright4927]

Not sure about your Frazier take Ali had arguably one of the best jabs in history and he couldn’t keep Frazier away

[@noraodonnell2999]

Everyone discounts Frazier. Oh, they'll put him in their top ten, sure, but the fact that Frazier's corner threw in the towel before Ali could quit is something I like a lot of people miss. Ali and Frazier were 1-1-1.

[@Dracon7601]

Yeah it's a question of how hard he can hit, george beat frazier by litterally sending him flying, I don't know if Lennox can do the same thing. Lennox has a good chance though.

[@owenwright4927]

@@noraodonnell2999 exactly

[@owenwright4927]

@@Dracon7601 yeah I agree he has a good chance but it’s the way he was just spoke about for about 2 seconds and quickly dismissed everyone seems to overlook joe even though he was one of the most fearsome heavyweights during that era

[@noraodonnell2999]

@@owenwright4927 his reasons to dismiss Joe were the same reason everyone gave that Ali would stop Joe in the first fight. Reach, height, ring savvy. Nobody in the modern day has Joe Frazier's leaping left hook. Ali couldn't time Joe's erratic head movement, and neither would Lewis.

[@cygnusprime6728]

You make some good points but you focus heavily on size and overlook Lewis questionable chin. He lost in his prime by brutal KO twice. It also depends on the ref and if they allow excessive clinching.

[@lntxp01]

Thank god someone mentioned his chin. With Manny Steward he was able to protected his chin more but a number of the boxers in this video would have still got through e.g. liston, foreman and ali.

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@@lntxp01 But to be fair lennox was not entirely focused on those nights he was hit, he got too cocky and suffered a bit of victory disease. The rahman rematch showed what Lewis could do when he was disiciplined. And that Lewis would hold his own against ANY of the best in any era.

[@lntxp01]

@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- that's true, but it still shows he can be knocked out. I think lennox is great, the best of the 90s heavyweights if I had to choose but the guy in the video is making the physical differences seem more advantageous than they actually are.

[@GrubKiller436]

Not only were they the first knock downs, they were also knock outs. He was not able to beat either of the 10-counts. His legs were wobbly and he was moving around rather than standing in place.

[@tomgriffiths2272]

@@GrubKiller436 he beat both counts. Got to his feet. Also those were the only knockdowns of his career

[@Washyourbellybutton]

This could be a video series. You should make a case for all of them.

[@tashab2482]

I concur.

[@awakenedgarou8542]

Great content

[@joel1110]

honestly I agree he was so underrated

[@TheEarthGerm]

Good video. I think prime Foreman would of given Lewis the most problems even though he is less skilled. Foreman had a iron chin, Lewis didnt. He would keep coming at Lewis like the Terminator.

[@andreapedroni3256]

It's probably impossible to beat Prime Foreman with any strategy that isn't the rope a dope. Before Ali he literally won 40 fights in a row. Also add the fact that the heat played a big part in Ali's strategy and well you know how strong he was. Facing him in a brawl would've probably been suicide.

[@chrismason4449]

Lewis showed a great chin in his gruelling fight with Mercer. Lewis also took bombs from the likes of Tyson Holyfield Klitschko

[@chrismason4449]

@@andreapedroni3256 I think prime Tyson would of beat Prime Foreman. But I think Lewis would of always beat Tyson. Styles make fights. Tyson would of got inside of Foreman’s post guard with little difficulty and smashed uppercuts on the move forward on Foremans high up chin. Prime Foreman was terrible fighting on the inside. Way too upright and didnt have enough torque on close range shots

[@chrismason4449]

@@andreapedroni3256 and no I dont think Tyson is a god I just think stylistically he preyed on that kind of folk. Not to mention Lewis is a fair bit bigger than Foreman

[@AzumDzumHzumS]

@@andreapedroni3256 how many of those 40 guys were bigger than foreman? lewis is a true heavyweight not like many others who are just called heavyweights although they arent even 6,2 / 200 pounds+

[@simonkrebs6043]

TJ, Lets first define the GOAT. Who would you put your money on in their prime to beat anybody in a heavyweight boxing fight (No Known Opposition) ? For those in the know their are 3 : - Lenox Lewis (6"5 - 245lb) - George Foreman (6"4 - 245lb) - Ike Ibeabuchi (6"2 - 240lb) (Vitali 4th for me unfortunately) These 3 would clearly beat the rest on most occasions (There is always a lucky punch). But who would win most often amongst those 3 ? For me it is Ike Ibeabuchi. I think overall he was too strong, had far too much stamina. It is likely In many of the fights Ike would wear Lennox and George out and then finish them. Remember even David Tua could not make Ike back up. So how often could Lennox or George ? Ike was too strong to hold, and once he got inside on either of them it would be over. So under the defined criteria the "Greatest Heavyweight of all time" is Ike Ibeabuchi. So in your presentation you did not mention the GOAT once. Well now I leave it too Rummy's Corner "You Don't know Shit About Boxing".

[@JRF1004]

Wouldn’t say HW GOAT but i would 100% put him in my top 15 greatest of all time P4P, super underrated Edit: I hadn’t watched the video yet and now i saw you said best not greatest my bad

[@fidelcastro2210]

Who would be your HW goat

[@JRF1004]

@@fidelcastro2210 Ali bro come on

[@reillyhopf6508]

Too high of a ranking though I really don't know where I would put him. Either way I'd say there are at least 20 boxers 100% greater than him. I'd probably place him around Hagler who I personally think is the least great of the 4 kings simply because he stayed in one division unlike the other 3.

[@JRF1004]

@@reillyhopf6508 yeah that’s a good spot but i don’t think people appreciate how much of a perfect career he had

[@ascendediam]

@@JRF1004 wow a outdated ali

[@chriby28]

Good video, just a point on Sonny Liston, I think his jab would've given lennox all sorts of trouble, Lennox had a great jab but if you look at his fight against Ray Mercer you'll see that he could be out jabbed and Ray mercer wasn't as good as Liston but they had very similar jabs. I also think Larry Holmes would've given lennox probably his toughest fight ever. Also even though the ring was very small for the Mercer fight the fact that Listons reach is similar to Lennox's could make the difference.

[@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi]

I'm pretty sure Liston had a longer reach than Lennox. His reach was freakishly long at 84 inches.

[@chriby28]

@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi Yeah Lennox has a 84 inch reach too man

[@jessemacaspac443]

Yeah, no, I don't see him beating Prime Sonny Liston, since Sonny had the biggest (and still the biggest) hands in boxing record. And he had one of the hardest jabs in boxing history. George Foreman sparred with Sonny and Ali beat him, which is why I don't see Lennox beating either George Foreman or Muhammad Ali. Rocky Marciano was the smallest guys of his era but I bet he'd still be a monster at 250+ lbs but obviously he would lose to a guy 100 pounds over him.

[@ikemreacts]

Liston was knocking fighters out CLEAN with his jab. This is really a very disrespectful video.

[@Pedro_Le_Chef]

@@ikemreacts Even worse when he went on to say that Lennox would turn into Muhammad Ali and survive Foreman's onslaught of punches, when Lennox never was as durable as Ali in the first place.

[@WarioSaysSo]

I fully agree with this! Olympic super heavyweight Gold medalist and Undisputed 3-time Heavyweight Champion of the World Lennox Lewis is indeed THE man who could defeat ANY man in boxing history. Lewis was in every word closest to a complete big man heavyweight. PROS: + He had incredible physical strength, + Great punch-power, + A strong jab, + A varied boxing style, + A wide arsenal of punch-combinations, + Great reach advantage and knowledge how to use it to its fullest, + Size advantage with knowledge how to use it against any opponent, even if taller opponent he could adapt with it + Great ring IQ and a strong fight mentality with equal strong heart. + Solid job on his fetes, never lose any balance despite having a wide arsenal of punches and styles. + A good chin = Vitali Klitschko, Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer, Frank Bruno gave Lewis all they could give and Lewis took it all and dished back more. (Side note: ANY boxer can get KO'd if hit with a powerful punch you did not expect and in his whole career he was down only 2 times (!) and up before 9 in one of them. Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Fury, Wilder, Holmes, Liston, Frazier etc was ALL knocked down more times in there careers.) + A bloody revenge hungry man who would climb mountains to get his revenge with interest in a rematch = Oliver McCall & Hasim Rahman both suffered out-classing and out-powering performances in the rematches. CONS: - Could be distracted with other more lucrative opponents when fighting an opponent he felt offered nothing to him. TWICE in his career he happened in this bubble and TWICE he paid the price for underestimate his opponents abilities. Despite Lewis avenged both those losses to prove he was the better man, it was still a flaw he proved to be repeated, but Lewis was far from the only champion to suffer this problem in his career. Tyson, Foreman, Holmes, Ali, W. Klitschko etc-etc all landed in this trap. OVERALL: Lennox Lewis was a boxer who could fight any style and any size and come out victorious. When Lewis was at his game, you would eat leather. Lewis was so strong and so dangerous landing his punches that he could flatten any man. More was that he was all so natural and had since kids days a fighters mentality and proven early a gifted athlete in several sports such as football, basketball and boxing + very good at chess play! Lewis was a promising athlete talent all the way up to high-school but choose dangerous boxing because again - he was a fighter at heart! Lewis could so intelligently analyze his opponents and possible opponents and near at gecko knew how he would box or fight them in the ring and the better challenge, the better he fought! Even when under tough pressure (Klitshko, Mavrovic, Bruno) he would suck it up and find a way to change the whole gameplay to his fight and overturn his opponents. The Klitschko fight who was at his oldest stage of career, at his worst prepared stage of a fight, and had just 2 weeks shy accepted him as his replacement challenger, Lewis could still take on a prime aged Klitschko and change the tide. The full bloody cut caused by punches sure was the stop-reason, but Lewis was in any way coming back in the game and had started to really hammer him down with dog-fighting and taking away his reach advantage. Vitali was as tough as they come no doubts as he really gave Lewis an early beating as Lewis was to custom to have the reach advantage, but he was stiff and style-wise limited and only liked to box with distance. When Lewis understood he could not box Vitali with distance boxing, he took away that, he got Vitali with punches from inside, uppercuts and short-crosses. And Lewis was at career worst shape here with being heavy, slow reflexes and had not had time to proper analyze Vitali = A prime Lewis in full condition would have been far-far better. Vitali had studied Lewis, but he was also never a boxer who did that much. Lewis did that a lot to opponents he took seriously and could offer him a challenge. Tyson, Rahman 2, Tua, Holyfield, Grant etc are fighters Lewis had greatly analyzed and there off the great results Lewis would have had a perfect undefeated career IF he would have not landed in over-seeing his two freak-career losses to McCall and Rahman. Both men was hard hitting boxers who could give any big man a challenge, especially McCall who in his entire 75 PRO fight career NEVER went down to the canvas but non of the men had the tools to be THE better man over Lewis in the ring as Lewis proved in the rematches he was twice there man with out-boxing them and out-powering them as well to the fullest. Especially Rahman was schooled as Lewis promised to finish him off in 4 rounds and did so. To many people are bashing on Lewis for petty related things that hold little to no weight to it. Lewis was the best of his era and cleaned house convincingly and even in defeat, he came back stronger and avenged them soundly and proved those losses was closer to a fluke then anything else. Riddick Bowe avoided Lewis his whole career despite that he was obligated in 1992 to fight him and again in 1996 and 1997 again they would face-off each-other but Bowe then suddenly retires at prime age. Lewis then fights Golota who twice had out-boxed Bowe and Lewis flatten him in 1 round! Mike Tyson (who like Bowe was both younger then Lewis) avoided Lewis for years as they should have fought in 1996 but Lewis was sidelined. Then sidelined again but at least paid $4 million and then Tyson dumped the WBC title like Bowe did 4 years prior. And between 1999-2002 Tyson rather fought easy KO possible opposition then facing Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko or Chris Byrd or John Ruiz despite being THE man who every one wanted to see fight Lewis, including Lewis himself who saw Tyson as the only man standing from there era left.

[@joshuaprasad1392]

He also had a suspect chin, he usually managed to keep guys on the outside but his chin has been cracked multiple times when guys can get in to land a clean shot.

[@WarioSaysSo]

@@joshuaprasad1392 Suspect could be said but he really could take hard shots as seen against Frank Bruno, Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs, Zeljko Mavrovic and Vitali Klitschko. He took them and fought on!

[@ascendediam]

​@@WarioSaysSoso how is that suspect

[@ascendediam]

​@@joshuaprasad1392stop repeating odd quotes others who don't watch say he never was in danger early or koed by any dangerous puncher how is that suspect see how you need to stop repeating lies

[@joshuaprasad1392]

@@WarioSaysSo I agree but I’m saying that it’s hard to say if he could take shots from fighters equal size like Joshua or wilder.

[@respawnicon]

Agree with you about Wlad, would have been interesting to have you add vitaly in the 10 out of 10 scenario since that fight was so close

[@gerritgaastra1631]

I think larry holmes would also be a tough challenge for lewis. Eventhough lewis has a good chance of hitting holmes with his right hand, he sometimes would wait too long for the right oppertunity. If that is the case i dont see lewis outboxing holmes. Great video BTW🙌

[@xzss7029]

Also I think Larry could recover from the right hand I mean look at Holmes vs shavers

[@crabb9966]

Larry holmes is great but he is not as good as sonny liston, ali, foreman and frazier who would have given lennox even more trouble

[@rvnwy7261]

You are underrating a Larry Holmes hard

[@yungchildsupporteditingamv3138]

@@crabb9966 Holmes would beat everyone u mentioned besides Ali

[@crabb9966]

@@yungchildsupporteditingamv3138 joe frazier broke his ribs when they sparred

[@questionablyjealous]

I think lewis is definitely top 5, probably top 3 in my goat ranking. The only fight I could see going the other way is ali. Mainly because Ali is a quick thinker in the ring, and can adapt to turn the table of the fight. I could see them going 5-5 or 6-4 in ali's favor. That doesn't take anything away from lewis though, he was a great boxer with amazing power and the ability to pace himself in a 12 round fight. definitely the goat of his era.

[@thamsanqabuthelezi8460]

I totally agree. When i watched his documentary... dude was built different. Skills, IQ and size. His 2 loses were due to his incompetence... should have arrived earlier in south africa and get used to the high altitude... That’s how he lost ... then avenged his loss. Another one he waz knocked out ciz he underestimated his opponent. Avanged that loss, made a grown man cry and quit. He should've retired undefeated.

[@josemarialaguinge]

I decided to watch some of your old videos, can't believe I just found your channel man, it's pure gold, just like a YT I would make myself but better. I do think Fury can beat Lewis tho.

[@DaniGerman1499]

I agree. Lennox is a true great

[@neilshah7471]

You don’t miss TJ! To me Lennox had the uncanny ability to stick to a game plan and execute it with excellence. Combined with his disciplined jab he was always in control of the fight. Despite all his gifts he really applied the fundamentals of boxing; he dominates because he is a great boxer!

[@surrealistidealist]

Do we have any reason to suspect Lewis and other recent heavyweight champions of doing steroids or other performance enhancing drugs? And do we have any confirmation either way? (I've seen accusations about Tyson and Holyfield, I've even seen claims that Ali took stimulants to improve his speed and reaction time. But I don't know about what we can say for sure.) Maybe this could be a topic for another video? (Edit: Oh, I just saw that you do have a video on this topic! 😅 I'm going to watch it now.)

[@monstamos13]

interesting analysis. agreeable.

[@gagandeepdhaliwal8673]

Finally someone who agrees with me on this

[@BushCheney04]

I don't know Lennox Lewis that well so I can't really argue in good faith, but that got me thinking. Why do you think Lennox Lewis is never in conversations for greatest heavyweights or why he isnt talked about much at all? Do you think the era he was in wasn't strong enough? Do you think that avenging his losses wasn't enough for most people? I'm curious what your thoughts are

[@EFCkingTom]

He’s not talked about because he’s British Canadian. But he’d comfortably beat most greats.

[@ruffgodz9543]

"Do you think the era he was in wasn't strong enough?" Bruh his era is stacked with holmes, foreman, tyson, bowe, ruddock, holyfield, bruno, tua, ibeabuchi and many other skilled fighters lol. Maybe he wasn't as talked in being the goat because of tyson fanboys lol.

[@dylanburston7453]

@@ruffgodz9543 The 90s was the deepest era in HW history

[@reillyhopf6508]

Lennox isn't talked about in the HW GOAT conversation because he does not meet the level of greatness of Ali or Louis who are both top 10 P4P, Lennox is probably outside the top 30. That being said, the only HW apart from them that should give any real type of fight with Lennox for the #3 spot is Larry Holmes.

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@@reillyhopf6508 Lennox is top 5 in HW's

[@bruhman1883]

That’s a good video, but I gotta say something about Mike. First of all, I really respect Lewis, but these days Tyson’s becoming pretty underrated. His losses to Douglas and Holyfield were in 1990 and 1996, his prime was in 1985-1989. Breaking down the Douglas loss: Now of course, Douglas had the motivation to defeat Tyson as nobody before, but Tyson was going thru some tough times, he divorced Robin Givens and didn’t train for the Douglas fight like at all and still gave a solid performance. Breaking down the Holyfield loss: First of all, Tyson has been imprisoned for three years, where he couldn’t train at all, he had to start doing it all over again before the McNeeley fight. Of course after prison he wasn’t so powerful, so explosive and fast. He also changed his tactic, being more offensive in the early rounds, but also being less defensive, which led to him finishing all of his after prison fights before the las bell. He dominated over Holyfield for the vast majority of the fight, remember, he wasn’t as good as he was 10 years earlier and would burn out faster due to his new tactic. This is when Evander started head butting Mike, which damaged him pretty much. Later Mike, tired out by his own aggressiveness, got knocked down and then TKOed, I think that if he was more defensive and less offensive he would defeat Evander by UD, remember, a decade after Mike’s prime. Talking about Prime Mike Tyson: Watch some footage of him training, watch some of his fights, Jose Ribalta, Reggie Gross, Trevor Berbick, Mavis Frazier, Pinklon Thomas. Mike was too fast, too explosive, too powerful. His skills, defence, offence and ability to dodge were on another level, he was different, he moved like no one else could, a complete puncher, a perfect fighter. All respect to Lennox, but I just don’t see have he can even potentially defeat Iron Mike in his Prime. Lennox was bigger, had a better reach, Tyson was more powerful, he was faster and could really dodge and overall defend himself with the Peek-a-boo style.

[@YannMetalhead]

Good video.

[@thegoat6116]

It's funny how he completely ignored a Larry Holmes vs Lennox Lewis fight, if you look back at Lennox Lewis Vs ray mercer you'll realize that Lewis lost that fight, and what happened when mercer fought homles in his 40s? Larry Holmes schooled him almost every round, am telling you, Lennox Lewis ain't all that, Ali, sonny Liston, George foreman, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes, ken Norton, Mike tyson in his prime, riddick bowe, Mike weaver, Ron Lyle, Ernie shavers, Cleveland Williams, all would knock him out, the guy can't take a punch like that.

[@lovinv08]

Damn u just made me a Lennox fan

[@jordanolsen879]

The fact you gave Sonny so much props… I will continue to listen lol.

[@williebernardrenderiv634]

EXCELLENT SIR!!!

[@stephenraine4965]

Love the video TJ but you can't leave out my boy Larry Holmes like that!

[@Xavier_the_Boxing_Nerd]

It’s really impossible to say how Lewis would do in a best out of ten against anybody because he never even had a trilogy. The same goes for any fighter who hasn’t actually fought 10 rematches against the same fighter at any point. Lewis was good in rematches, but in the second fight against Holyfield, he wasn’t dominant. The only people that can fairly be assessed in a 10 out of ten are guys like Sam Langford, Harry Wills, Joe Jeannette, and other historical heavyweights who had rivalries that didn’t end in 1-3 fights.

[@ascendediam]

And len koed all the modern versions of the top 70s guys in style He koed ace who fought like sonny He destroyed golata a man who had the stance of George but with real defense and who was way tougher then george He gave koed as I said the modern ali named was tyrell The modern young name was noel the difference is he was bouncing alot jim didnt Fought justin who was the modern frazier but who wasnt as basic as joe he was beat So when I see on forums saying odd stuff like ali or george would beat him by loonies I smh like no they wouldn't when as I said len beat all the advanced versions of these outdated fighters

[@mshklh2099]

I just realized he is a skilled fighter with the body of Foreman !

[@andreiferariu]

I think you have to adjust for era for it to make sense. Training is completely different now than in the past.

[@jedikye]

Sonny Liston also had a crazy reach

[@righthandlad9220]

3:35 Joe Louis has shown he can deal with height and weight advantages he fought and beat the likes of Primo Carnera and Buddy Bear the former being the previous heavy weight champion, in fact on his lead up to the fight with Primo he his sparing partners heights averaged out at around 6'4. I still think Lennox Lewis would cause Louis alot of trouble since he struggled with movers example Billy Con. but u never argued that instead discrediting him cause Lennox was physically too big. I really like ur content and think it's well thought out but this disappointed me writing off Joe Louis like that when he's the only one out of the 4 champions u picked that has fought way bigger opponents.

[@st2whocares988]

Joe Louis was also argually the smartest boxer, like he had a really good ring iq

[@righthandlad9220]

@@st2whocares988 yeah we see this in the Buddy Bear fight, Buddy catches him once with his hook but then Louis adapts and Buddy is never able to land that hook again. Louis is also very strong probably ATG knock out power just look what he did to his bigger opponents no one has ever replicated that in this except maybe Tyson, but he used a the same principles that allowed even someone like Patterson to down heavier fighters.

[@LeonardoDiAficionado]

🎯🎯🎯thank you

[@reillyhopf6508]

Lennox was levels above Baer and Carnera who is the worst champion in heavyweight history.

[@LeonardoDiAficionado]

@@reillyhopf6508 Canera>Ortiz

[@snowman1886]

I think you present a good case but explanation for what makes him better than everybody else was lackluster at best. Maybe some more in depth look at his boxing skills might have solidified it for me otherwise, great video.

[@montybrewster7]

Interesting vid dude, thanks. My only point i think worth making is tyson fury has an uncanny knack of learning how to beat a fighter he'd previously struggled with. In a best of 10 llets say lenox wins the first couple. However fury would probably learn how to beat him & perhaps come back in future fights & gain the upper hand. It's just a thought but i think tyson fury has that in his locker which could/should be considered. Thanks again dude.

[@MaccaveliPL]

Wladimir is actually criminally underrated. His accolades are amazing and even if the era he reigned in was weak there are still top notch. Vitali, widely considered the better one by fans (not by experts) fought in the same era, and couldn't achieve half of the things his brother did. He had a phenomenal jab, one of the best straight rights in heavyweight history and a great left hook. His chin tho was his biggest flaw and when hit right, he would go down. However, he had a big heart, despite being dropped multiple times, never finished the fight on the canvas. His skill level helped him cover this flaw tho, which says a lot about his ring IQ. On top of all that, he did everything the champion should do - defend his title against top opposition. He beat 15 top 10 guys in the course of his career, including 3 fighters considered the best in the division beside him and 2 fighters considered top 3 (beside him and his brother). To quote the late great Emanuel Steward only thing you can except from the champion is to defend his titles against the best available opposition. And he did just that. 18 consecutive title defences, including 11 of the lineal title. Only Larry Holmes & Joe Louis have more (Ali of course have more also combining his two reigns). And they also had their fair share of bums in their resumes. Mike Tyson only defended his title 9 times in the era as weak as Wladimir's.

[@ferenccoppen3781]

Strait facts also vitali was beating lennox but he won because he scrached his face with the inside of his glove

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@ferenccoppen3781 the fight was close tho. Lewis won 2 out of 6 rounds on the official scorecards and Lederman gave him 3.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

@@MaccaveliPLWladimir is a legend but he dominates an era where he was tallest , longest guy on the block which made his jab 1,2 clinch style effective against smaller fights. Many of today’s heavyweight are 6’6+ and they’re dynamic fighters. Wlad had a weak chin too so I’d imagine someone like Wilder would hurt him badly.

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@Oppenheimer1967 Klitschko dominated Wilder in the sparring, even dropping him. There was a reason Wilder ducked him when he was the champion.

[@mfc5808]

In that Vitali fight, the cut was the only thing that saved Lewis. He was fading and Vitali was about to put him to sleep. Also, it’s not coincidence that he retired after that fight, he didn’t want that rematch

[@stephenbarlow2493]

It's always difficult to know how fighters of different eras would actually match up. However, I'd fully agree that on stats Lennox Lewis, would have the greatest potential to beat heavyweight champs from any era. He was big, athletically superb, a highly skilled boxer and a hard hitter. At the very least he would give the greatest heavyweights from any era, their greatest challenge. He hadn't got any obvious weakness that would allow you to say with certainty that any boxer from another era, have a major advantage against Lewis. You could say that Ali was a more skilled boxer, but Lewis was also one of the most skilled boxers of any era, alongside physicality, and boxing IQ (not quite the same as skill), to provide Ali with probably the toughest challenge of his career. In other words, if you could arrange a hypothetical fight between all these greats, the safest one to put your money on to win, in terms of probability, would be Lewis. But then you have those extra dimensions like determination, spirit, boxing IQ, that only becomes evident when 2 boxers actually fight i.e. it doesn't actually turn out like the experts saw it would

[@ascendediam]

And len koed all the modern versions of the top 70s guys in style He koed ace who fought like sonny He destroyed golata a man who had the stance of George but with real defense and who was way tougher then george He gave koed as I said the modern ali named was tyrell The modern young name was noel the difference is he was bouncing alot jim didnt Fought justin who was the modern frazier but who wasnt as basic as joe he was beat

[@jkbtw293]

personally sonnys just the best when he was at his hungry point he is kinda average sized now and even then he was above average but he was a rock he was literally grown up like a farm animal he would scare Lewis he was a master at his strategy he would set up a trap and if it failed he would set up another one with the momentum of the failed one he would make chains of hitting people in the face with jab and cover their face and hook em he also had incredible reach he only stopped trying because no one wanted him to be champ and he stopped innovating since he was steam rolling through his opponents and I think he hit harder than foreman and was smaller but superior in every way

[@boxingdegenerate9077]

Lewis is certainly the best when it comes to head to head conversations. But I will say your disrespecting Liston a bit. He was physically strong enough to back up Foreman, so I doubt Lewis is out right stronger than him. Most likely being equal in that area. Liston’s jab is considered one of the best in heavyweight history, so I believe Lewis will have some degree of trouble out-boxing him, plus Lewis’ chin can be cracked, especially against Liston’s all time power. And while I believe Lewis’ does win because of his superior combination punching and more versatile offense (as well as Liston not being use to fighting someone significantly larger) It’s certainly not as simple as “He can just outbox him.” Especially when Lewis had difficulty with Ray Mercer. A power puncher with a strong jab, who’s similar in stature to Liston, basically a watered down version. Still a world champion but, again this just shows that it isn’t as simple as your trying to make it when looking at their skill sets.

[@ikemreacts]

It's an embarrassing video. Especially when he said heavyweights got better between Liston and Lewis. He is on crack. Liston would knock Lewis out clean. I am a great fan of Lewis and believe he is not respected enough, but there are levels. And he was not even on prime Iron Mike's level. Lewis was not even the greatest of his era. How do we know this? Everybody who beat Mike Tyson became a cultural phenomenon, such was Mike's terror. The age revolved around him, not Lennox.

[@freddyarkalji4208]

lewis is much more unstoppable than liston he has one of the best jabs of all time too with a longer reach just as much power and a huge uppercut and fight iq stop it liston wouldn’t knock lewis out lewis keeps these types of power hitters out the inside for a reason

[@freddyarkalji4208]

@@ikemreacts that’s just hate lewis was the unbeatable he was the greatest of his era the last undisputed champion he never ducked smoke and beat every fighter he ever stepped into the ring with and liston isn’t shit to lewis u can really watch him the skill level from liston isn’t anything close the skill level of lewis he would wipe every heavy weight lmao no one is as big and as skilled with his power that can match him he beat every greatest heavyweight of his era with holyfield frank bruno tommy morrison ray mercer and even tyson he was older than tyson and ik they prime differently but i still believe a prime lewis would beat a prime tyson

[@ikemreacts]

@@freddyarkalji4208 Tyson is the greatest of his era. There is no doubt he was second only to Ali. Everybody made a name by beating Tyson - even the washed cocaine-addict Lewis beat. Did Rahman make a name beating Lewis? McCall? Did it make world headlines? The evidence is all around you. It is silly to pretend otherwise - silly. And don't talk "hate" rubbish: Lennox is a fellow Brit like I am and he is isn't talked about enough. I love Lennox. He had a better record than Tyson but his star never burned brighter. And Tyson's star burned so bright purely because of his impact in the ring and everybody should just say so.

[@ikemreacts]

@@freddyarkalji4208 Have some respect. You don't know what you are talking about. Liston knocked people out with his jab, clean. Go and watch some old tapes and comment again when you are better informed.

[@mrawesome7175]

Lennox Lewis is the best heavyweight

[@michaeljohnson7245]

People keep sleeping on Larry holmes

[@sasa1982uk]

Lennox is very well rounded fighter, has the skill, the size, the IQ the athleticism the punch power.

[@thegoat6116]

the original baddest man on the planet was sonny liston hands down

[@ReptilianAnusWizzard]

I came to the same conclusion, bevor Fury changed his style up. I think Fury would sooner or later crack Lewis Jaw, what i think was his biggest weakness.

[@saburrashid5566]

Why? Because he beat trash Wilder ! When did fury become a puncher ? He slaps with his hook . Fury was beat up by a cruiserweight ! Hell Cunningham dropped him on his ass !!! Stop it millennial please !!!

[@lemoganglemo302]

Your whole argument is size but guys like joe Frazier, Jack dempsey, Muhammad Ali and Tyson were knocking out guys bigger and stronger than them

[@GrubKiller436]

The problem I have with Lennox Lewis is he started coming on strong in the scene when his peers were obviously past their primes. This is something I don't like. It doesn't show how good he could've been against fighters at their best.

[@robertbush8354]

I completely agree 100%... Put him against any elite heavyweight from any era both in their primes and Lennox Lewis will come out on top every time. His size, his athleticism, his boxing IQ , his reach and most of all his punching power with accuracy. He's proven that over his stellar career. Wishing we had him now to clean out the entire division.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

He’s lose to Klitschko and he’s lose to Wilder and Fury

[@robertbush8354]

@@Oppenheimer1967 you can't be taken seriously with a comment like that

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@@Oppenheimer1967 No way

[@AzumDzumHzumS]

@@Oppenheimer1967 maybe fury, wilder....never

[@Dany-wp5zu]

@N Mike Tyson

[@user-eq1gd1ex4t]

Supremely underrated but I think Jon jones is the baddest man to ever live by far

[@pandap55]

For real

[@SM-nz9ff]

He said fair fight not steroid man lol Add in roids and lots of people beat Jones

[@hasanz7585]

@@SM-nz9ff everyone's on steroids bro Jones is just less subtle about it

[@DarranKern]

I fully agree with this statement. Lennox never moved like he was that big, always kept his cool, and never fought dumb

[@Aburner960]

Hes the one heavyweight thats a nightmare matchup for damn near every heavyweight that ever lived this is absolutely a valid case

[@makaveli3189]

Problem with Lennox is he got FINISHED by “good” fighters, which kinda takes away from his legacy even if he avenged the losses. You can’t say the same for Ali, foreman, Holmes, Frazier, Louis, Marciano, and how could we forget GENE TUNNEY who was 82-1 with 49 KOs? Lennox might be a great heavyweight but he’s not close to one of the best ever imo…..

[@user-vb4rc8tt6n]

Yeah how can we forget Gene Tunney. The guy who drew color line.

[@makaveli3189]

@@user-vb4rc8tt6n Way better resume than lewis and never got knocked out by a bum in almost 90 fights. He’d a whooped you too lol

[@user-vb4rc8tt6n]

@@makaveli3189 He wouldn't fight me. Im the wrong complexion

[@user-vb4rc8tt6n]

@@makaveli3189 Tunney ducked George Godfrey and Kid Norfolk. George Godfrey fight was made and Tunney backed out with his management.

[@user-vb4rc8tt6n]

@@makaveli3189 Only Negro fighter Tunney was willing to fight was old Harry Wills. Wills was 38. No young black fighters allowed. Wills was too old to even accept.Wills was ducked by Dempsey fr 6 years. He grew old waiting for Dempsey.

[@thatguy5779]

I think Lewis beats most guys but but, sucks to see you omitted Larry Holmes as a great HW. He’s so underrated and had a long tenure as champion

[@ascendediam]

And len koed all the modern versions of the top 70s guys in style He koed ace who fought like sonny He destroyed golata a man who had the stance of George but with real defense and who was way tougher then george He gave koed as I said the modern ali named was tyrell The modern young name was noel the difference is he was bouncing alot jim didnt Fought justin who was the modern frazier but who wasnt as basic as joe he was beat So when I see on forums saying odd stuff like ali or george would beat him by loonies I smh like no they wouldn't when as I said len beat all the advanced versions of these outdated fighters

[@ARG0T]

@@ascendediam This shit is the most casual garbage I've ever read

[@hiruyabebaw7140]

When's the klitschko vid

[@brock8993]

I prefer the Tysons after all these years. But that's partially their development as people outside of the ring. But I also live in kitchener Ontario and know some people that went to high-school with him. So 20 years ago him and blackberry were the talk of the town. Hope he is doing well I haven't heard much about him since

[@vultureguy33]

Lennox doesn't get his due in the GOAT convo but he wouldn't have nearly as easy a time as you make it seem against many of these greats. For example, it took all of Ali's footwork and movement speed to stay away from Liston. Lennox isn't going to be nearly as hard of a target for Liston, and if we're talking prime vs prime, my money is on Liston.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

Sonny Liston was 6’1. Wilder is walking right through him.

[@meeknuggets4860]

​@@Oppenheimer1967 is that your only reason? Wilder has beaten men taller than him. that outweighed him by 40 pounds. liston was shorter than wilder and still had a bigger reach than wilder. bigger fists.. and generally weighed in heavier than wilder for the majority of both of their careers. Wilders only advantage is his height and explosive speed against liston.. Joe Louis was about 6'1-6'2". he beat two fighters who were 6'7", one of which was much bigger and heavier than wilder too. height isn't a good argument for why a fighter would beat another one.

[@J4sse]

Lewis vs Foreman was realistic at some point 😳 (90s)...

[@thegoat6116]

Yeah when a 47 year old George foreman fought Shannon Briggs, the winner was supposed to fight Lewis, but George got robbed and they gave the win to Briggs, and you saw what Briggs did to Lewis in the first round, so big george foreman at 47 years old actually stood a chance against a prime Lennox Lewis 🤣

[@outlawjoe5447]

@@thegoat6116 that’s not how Fighting works…

[@thegoat6116]

@@outlawjoe5447 what do you mean?

[@MaccaveliPL]

@@thegoat6116 the triangle theory. Just cause Foreman did good against Briggs doesn't mean anything. Foreman destroyed Frazier and Norton who both defeated Ali but Ali took down Foreman easily.

[@thegoat6116]

@@MaccaveliPL ali didnt beat foreman easily, please get that straight, he had to go throw 7 tough rounds, ali took some heavy punches you know, in the 8th round george gassed out then ali knocked him out, so old george foreman did stand a chance against lewis

[@khalidbinwaleed5072]

He’s a master at distance hits hard

[@ishowcaserespawn9618]

Think you underrate my boy Sonny Liston just a little bit. I mean we got to remember that Lewis had a little bit of a suspect chin I'm not saying it was a weak chin but I'm saying if you could catch him the right way you could definitely knock him out. someone like Sonny Liston where you have stories of him breaking dudes headgear. Sparring four or five guys at a time just to get a workout I think he would have gave Lewis a hard time. Plus you got to remember he's 6'1 and has the reach of a Lennox Lewis. And his jab was highly underrated. Foreman said himself that Sonny liston would back him up alone just based off jab. Honestly I would go on but I'll just tell you to watch rainy day boxing's documentary on him. he goes into much better detail than I ever can. Anyway I see where you're coming from but I don't 100% agree.

[@lyleseptember144]

It's a shame his so underrated

[@krlllx]

it's 67 Ali imo but Lennox is a great choice too

[@TheHoneycomber]

while ali is the greatest, it’s simpily not fair to call any boxer (in this case heavyweight) who primed before the 80s the best, this is beacuse boxing has evolved so much and the sport has become more tactical after the reign of tyson and mayweather, unless it went to descsion due to tyson not landing, i even see mike beating him. as for lennox i’m not sure but my point is that you can’t compare diffirent eras, as that’s almost like comparing weight classes today, sugar ray vs aj is like fury vs money mayweather, same sport different game, same town different park. this isn’t me disrespecting ali by the way, he is definitely the greatest, i just argue him being the best.

[@krlllx]

@@TheHoneycomber Give evidence for how tactics have evolved.

[@TheHoneycomber]

@@krlllx to start of with the most obvious, science, argue all you want but a seasoned fighter with a good diet and nutrition has some advantages, another thing is simpily learning, for example mike tyson grew up watching the likes of ali so he had an infinite arsenal of footage from the past greats, watching their pros & cons and improving it, then tyson fury watching mike tyson footage, again, seeing his pros, cons and improving then the next heavyweight goat in 15 years watching footage of fury and uysk, watching and improving, unless a fighter is particularly stupid enough to not do research, they will also improve. another reason i’d say fighters evolve is technique and the information out there, the sport is ever evolving and that’s why old boxers had such a “strange” stance, back then that was the most skilful thing of all time. there is a lot of other things i can mention but this is what comes to mind instantly

[@krlllx]

@@TheHoneycomberif boxing can evolve so easily in only 15 years like you say I don’t see why a near 50 year old foreman can come back and compete at a very high level so long after when he dominated the 70s. I think that proves that a prime foreman would be the very best of that era too if he was in his prime contrary to what you say about pre 80s boxers not being able to contend with the best afterwards. Then consider that in 2008 a mid 40s Evander Holyfield thoroughly outboxed Valuev who held a heavyweight title. I really don’t think heavyweight boxers are getting better on a linear path. I think the greats of the past are convincingly better than the best today. That is just my opinion though.

[@TheHoneycomber]

@@krlllx yeah in terms of toughness we are definitely going downhill with our fighters, the one current heavyweight champ who is ready to take a real challenge is uysk, whereas in the hall of fame i can’t think of a goat who wouldn’t. what i am tryna say is old fighter would prob kay deck new fighter but in terms of technique and “skill” modern fighters are more advanced