Why Link Didn't Become a Gibdo in Majora's Mask (Zelda Theory)

[@Legend_Zone]

Oh, once again I forgot to leave a comment down here. How embarrassing 😳 Thank you all for watching! If you enjoyed be sure to let me know down here!

[@StoMoComedoPro]

Lol nobody else replied

[@mdswitchy378]

@@StoMoComedoPro you forgot that due to termina being a different universe link may just be immune due to being an anomaly

[@jorgeoquendo7514]

I never thought it was a type of area curse, i just thought people went in looking for the treasure and died, turning into Gibdos. In Pamela's father's case i thought he went looking for the treasure and was somehow infected by the gibdos down there, but escaped alive. This theory is actually a really neat alternative, it fits all the evidence really well.

[@Acidfrog475]

Same. This isn't strictly related. I just thought it was funny. When I saw the title I instantly let out a, "Cuz he [Pamela's father] didn't die", thinking the vid was going to try and argue that the Gibdo mask should've been a transformation mask (since he gets "healed" by Link). Funny how stupid misconceptions you get before watching a video.

[@Halibel764]

I always thought people were always going into a well for a reason, and whatever that is, the curse turns them into Gibdos, depending on what the word treasure means for them. Some Gibdos have simple demands and were indeed here for the greed, while Pamela's father wanted knowledge which is different, thus he would have managed to escape. Link in his case didn't even know what to find but entered the well in order to help, thus it wasn't by greed. Which is ironic because Link would do anything for rupees.

[@samwiseb2799]

It also fits into the theory that Majoras Mask is about adulthood. Link gaining the Gibdo Mask represents links acceptance of mortality which is why he gives away things in the well because it’s supposed to represent Link letting go of materialistic things and once he gets the mirror shield it’s supposed to represent a reflection of himself accepting on letting go. Basically all the masks represent different lessons of adulthood and how Link grows to an adult. The Fierce Deity Mask is the final lesson of Sacrifice because Link sacrifices his own happiness for the people of Termina so they can be spared from pure destruction and represents Links willingness to punish Majora and free Skull Kid.

[@TheBreadPirate]

That answer caught me off guard, but it makes so much sense now! 😃

[@Legend_Zone]

Thank you! It is a rather odd explanation I suppose, but given the legends referring to the shield as a "treasure" and the greedy Gibdos, I think it holds a bit of weight. Thanks for watching! (And proofwatching 😉)

[@TheBreadPirate]

@@Legend_Zone Ha ha, anytime boss!

[@Vergilangel]

I was expecting the video to be about why Link doesnt transform into a Gibdo using the mask when all other masks that he obtains in each major area transform him. Either way I enjoyed the video tho lol

[@Legend_Zone]

Yep, in hindsight I realized the thumbnail kind of made it look like it was more about that than the well, haha. That's another worthwhile topic though! It's interesting how the masks that do transform Link all were people with lingering regrets, and two at least were known heroes. Maybe since the masks' owners all matched closely with Link, they had some weird kind of bond, or something. It's been a while since I looked into it so I've probably forgotten a lot about that particular part, so take anything here with a grain of salt, haha.

[@segevstormlord3713]

I actually think I'll go with both explanations. Link wasn't subject to it due to being not greedy, but perhaps the curse is insidious enough that it can induce greed, too. After all, if "greed" is "desire," then any reason for entering it can be turned to "greed." But the Triforce of Courage also nosells the curse, if it does start to get hold. Probably, given its nature, by reminding Link of his determination and purpose. I think even a greedy bearer of the Triforce of Courage would be able to power through the curse on determination alone, rejecting it by sheer willpower if he wished. I say this because I doubt Ganon would've been cursed by the well. He's just too much the Greater Evil. The well's curse certainly would have hold on him for his greed and lust for power, but Ganon's Triforce of Power would utterly stomp the curse. It would take root, and then do nothing except feed Ganon's power still more in whatever fashion he deemed acceptable.

[@eowynbaggins6099]

I really enjoyed your theories in this! And I feel like the Triforce wouldn't be as powerful in Termina as it was in Hyrule, so I think your second theory is more likely to be true.

[@Legend_Zone]

Thank you! The Triforce definitely doesn't seem as important in Termina, even if it's power still was active, but either way I do like my second thought a little more. Thanks for watching!

[@Acidfrog475]

I like to imagine that the Triforce only works for those that actually believe in it (it works for the Hylians because it works like it does in the Hylian faith). Since the Hylian interpretation of the Triforce seemingly doesn't exist in the Terminan religion(s), I think it wouldn't work at all. The Terminans may just assume it's a giant placebo effect, Idk. Or maybe, since there have been a couple pyramids in the shape of the Triforce in Termina, that symbol might be completely different there, with a completely distinct cultural meaning and potential powers.

[@Legend_Zone]

Well, some places in Termina show the Triforce, like Cremia's belt or some gold bars that can be found lying around in some places. Granted, the Terminians clearly don't have the same ties to it that Hylians do, but it is true that the strength of the user's wish is relative to its fulfillment, so if they didn't believe it would happen I doubt it would be very effective.

[@Acidfrog475]

@@Legend_Zone Yeah. It might hold some other power, be just a religious symbol with no significant value like a cross (obviously, that's not how Christianity works, but I doubt most Christians would consider any random wooden cross to be all that meaningful) or maybe it's just a pretty symbol (like the warehouse chain Prisma, which uses a coloured Triforce-like symbol as its logo).

[@StoMoComedoPro]

Oh yeah you would completely forgot about the trifoce

[@pel1tietaja]

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[@Legend_Zone]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed, and glad I didn't scare you off, haha!

[@marckvinny]

btw, why the gibdo Mask is not a transformation mask ?, like you heal Pamela's father, take the mask and ..., nothing ?, I really wanted to see a gibdo link in the game, Well but I think that would apply to kamaro as well, and no i do not want a kamaro link tranformation in the game, urgh

[@Legend_Zone]

Actually, I have been thinking about that recently, and it might be worth making a theory video about it. Whether or not I do though, I believe it's because something was different about the Deku Butler's Son, Darmani, and Mikau- something that set them apart from the rest, and something not present in Pamela's Father and Kamaro. I still have to think it over though, so if I ever finish it, maybe it'll show up as a video? Who knows! Thanks for watching!

[@marckvinny]

@@Legend_Zone wow, nice, good to know, Ur welcome, awesome content

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Someone had to die to create the transformation masks. Darmani, Miaku and the Deku Butler's son.

[@Levi_Jooren]

You need more subs. It's weird one video has a massive amount of views but only a couple people decided to subscribe. You make great content and people will find your channel eventually. Keep up the great work. :)

[@Legend_Zone]

I appreciate your compliments! I think this one just took off a bit because of the Age of Calamity hype, but I did get around 100 subscribers just from the last video, so I certainly can't complain 😂 Thank you for watching!

[@Spider-Man-257]

Is it possible to beat Majora's Mask without getting the mirror shield.

[@Legend_Zone]

Through speedrunning tricks and glitches, perhaps, but I believe it's necessary to beat the game normally. Thanks for watching!

[@phantompop3192]

I remember thinking I would change into one. I got super hyped only to be immediately let down.

[@TheGameCreator13]

Also worth mentioning Link's Elegy of Emptiness Statue looks rather "distinct" compared to statues of other living creatures That's something that makes me dislike the "Ben Drowned" pasta as I feel that fanfic ended up overshadowing the concept itself and ends up being a glossed over detail in a lot of People's eyes for what is a very fascinating idea in Majora's Mask, with untapped potential for theories of what the implication of such an appearance implies. Instead it's boiled down to "Ooky Spooky Cartridges" I dunno man The EoE Statue's implications intrigue Me, I don't think enough People look deep enough into it 👁👁

[@Legend_Zone]

It really is overlooked to an extent. The meaning behind it and a lot of things I. Majora's Mask have yet to be fully explored. Perhaps I'll check out some of that soon! Thanks for watching!

[@gregpl9363]

ben drowned really did mess up the context of the statues appearance... I have a theory behind it maybe you'll like it. of course its called the elegy of emptiness because it creates an empty husk/ shell of the being that plays it. playing it as Link you see a rather suspicious smiling version of Link.. but if you think about it.. whats the one thing you NEVER see Link do ( disregarding wind waker because that one is supposed to be cheerful etc). but taking ocarina of time as well as majoras mask in mind, Link never even once cracks a smile.. and looking at the statue, although its smiling, its not. its not a sincere smile but it seems scarily forced, and very very.... empty.. I think this says a lot about Link as a kid ( who has experienced adulthood already). so think its more of a sad idea rather than a scary one even though that statue creeps me the buck out. just a thought though

[@Acidfrog475]

@@gregpl9363 To build on that idea, that forced smile _is_ Link. Since the other statues represent who the actual person is at any given point (Darmani III, Mikau and what I assume the Deku Butler's Son looked like), it's safe to assume that Link is just a depressed, broken kid deep inside, hiding behind a false childhood (since this most likely wouldn't have been what his actual childhood would've been like, since Navi wouldn't have fulfilled her purpose yet). As OP said, Ben Drowned completely omits that extremely dark and depressing symbolism in exchange for "ooo spooky statue go brrrr". It's such a lazy cop-out when the lost childhood idea is so much freakier and sadder.

[@gregpl9363]

@@Acidfrog475 yeah nice! and exactly that grief and not-self-inflicted regrets regarding his childhood, of which what we get to see during ocarina and majora's mask he never gets the chance to properly deal with, the years prior to ocarina of time was practically Link living his life in ignorance of his origin and family etc, all of a sudden one day, you get to hear what happened to your parents, you're not part of the people you consider family, your father figure ( deku tree) passes away after you think you went in to save him and from that point on you become the Hero of all Hyrule disregarding everything about yourself. then when all said and done, and you get the time to reflect and perhaps with the help of a dear friend, when all of a sudden that same friend disappears... and then... Majoras mask :p its like a never ending sh(..)storm of childhood trauma, with no real way to deal with it. Linking it to twilight princess, I think that the Hero's Shade ( which is OoT's Link of course) looks the way he does for a damn good reason. he also talks about his regrets and never being able to pass on his knowledge while alive.. think that says a lot as well.

[@Acidfrog475]

@@gregpl9363 I think that in addition to his old techniques he should probably sit down with Link and talk. Might be good for them both.

[@abigailblevins4693]

This theory makes a lot of sense! Enjoyed it

[@Legend_Zone]

I'm glad you enjoyed! Hopefully future theories will make as much or more sense. Thanks for watching!

[@RaveNinja1401]

Adding a point against Link being protected by the triforce of courage from unwilling/unwanted transformations, Skull Kid managed to transform Link into a deku scrub without much effort, working his dark magic would have been a lot harder if his target was under divine protection.

[@Legend_Zone]

True, Majora's Mask would have to be pretty strong to overpower a Triforce piece. Not impossible, but unlikely for sure. It could be that since it was less of a direct curse and more fusing Link's body with another Spirit, that the Triforce may not have directly rejected it (since the masks later do the same thing and aren't... _exactly_ evil magic), but we don't have a ton of info on how the whole transformation magic works anyway, so there's no telling with that. Thanks for watching!

[@MrMyers758]

I mean link is definately entering the well for the same reason the treasure hunters were: because he heard there was a treasure down there. If in the game they had said "that well is full of cursed souls. Maybe inside you will find a way to release them from their curse", but no one did. Link is arguably more able to be labelled as greedy than the scientist who went down there out of curiosity and to learn.

[@blueecho9792]

Awesome video, awesome youtuber!😊

[@Legend_Zone]

Thank you and thank you! Glad you enjoyed, and one more thank you for watching the video!

[@Kahadi]

Or, a more simple explanation, there isn't a curse like that. Now, I know people say he was cursed and began transforming into a Gibdo, but I can't find in game evidence stating that's the case, so I'm not sure if it being a curse is fact or just speculation, an easy way of explaining his situation. However, if it is a curse, consider that it might not be related to the well specifically, just a general Gibdo curse, as in that's how Gibdo are created anywhere. Moving on to the main point, however, it is stated by the Poe Collector when you wear the Gibdo Mask that it is "the mask of those that roam this world with the most lingering regrets." Thus Gibdos are people that died with lingering regrets. While Pamela's father does say the Gibdos beneath the well are the spirits of those that were looking for the treasure, his words don't necessarily suggest that the well is why they became Gibdos. The Garo also implies this with the line "as the Gibdos of Ikana's well have regrets and long to savor items from this world, they continue to wander about." So take this information, that Gibdos are those with regrets that wander the world. Add to it that all of Ikana is under a curse causing undead everywhere, Gibdos appear elsewhere in the world (not in Majora's Mask, but other games), they become ReDeads when their bandages are burned off (at least in this game), and there is at least one other undead. Seems more likely that its just a normal Gibdo thing, not a well-specific curse

[@Acidfrog475]

Do you know if there's any evidence or hints in-game that could explain how Pamela's father became part-Gibdo in the first place? I always assume(d) it was some zombie- or vampire-like "bite and person becomes infected with this undead curse" curse.

[@jermtwitero]

Never thoght of this option since I just asumed Triforce inmunity, but makes so much sense!

[@Legend_Zone]

Triforce immunity is probably the safer bet, but with all the super greedy mummies it seems like the situation with the well could go... Deeper 😉 Thanks for watching!

[@greatersabre3135]

If i had to guess why the gibdo mask doesnt act as an actual transformation mask like the other three, id say its because the person you get the mask from isnt actually dead, and therefore their spirit doesnt end up sealed in the mask. With the deku, goron, and zora mask, you acquire them after the person they are based on has passed and their spirit has been sealed in the mask, allowing link to merge with them. In the case of pamelas father, he doesnt pass away as the song of healing was able to fully heal him from his curse. Therefore, the gibdo mask didnt contain a spirit when created therefore just being an empty mask. TL;DR since the song of healing was able to fully heal pamelas father and instead shed him of his curse, the mask left behind was empty and without a spirit inside, it didnt have the power to transform link.

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

So, uh... that's not the question the video asks, I'm not sure if you're commenting before watching, or simply adding your own canon to this _in case_ someone asks the question? However, this is exactly what I came down to the notes to do. This is what I _thought_ the video was going to be about, and since he didn't address it, I was going to. But then, you said pretty much exactly what I was going to say, so now I don't have to. Uh, keep up the good work.

[@greatersabre3135]

@@Wendy_O._Koopa i knew the video wasnt about that since i had seen the other comments, but i had guessed people would still be curious about why it isnt an actual transformation mask so i just threw in my two cents lol

[@Legend_Zone]

Yeh, after making the video and the thumbnail, I realized it definitely looks more like it would be about the Gibdo mask than the well itself. I guess that's what I get for trying to illustrate a Gibdo-fied Link- he just looks like Gibdo mask Link, lol. But yes, I agree that since the mask doesn't hold a spirit with lingering regrets like the other transformation masks that it wouldn't force a transformation when worn or anything. It just looks like a Gibdo and has a similar feel or energy that makes the Gibdos easier to communicate (maybe even some magic lingering from the partial Gibdo form of the researcher).

[@logansmith2703]

Huh that Greed theory is really cool. Guess it's my headcanon now.

[@Legend_Zone]

Works for me! I'm glad you enjoyed. Thanks for a watching!

[@clownmoment8026]

woah woah woah legend zone. i took my eyes off you for two weeks and you gained 100 subs. incredible. your doing gr8 dude. Edit:idk if this is 100 percent true. i think its been a bit linger but still doing amazing.

[@Legend_Zone]

I'm just as surprised as you are, haha! And thank you, I hope I can keep making interesting, enjoyable content. That is, if I am currently, because if not I better get started 😅 Thanks for watching!

[@clownmoment8026]

@@Legend_Zone no problem

[@foiledagain1914]

I guess the reason Pamela's father wasn't fully cursed was because his intention wasn't truly out of greed.

[@overlordextremegameexor]

Song of Healing heal evil magic and troubled spirits. Turning them into masks. For Pamela's father, he didn't fully transform into a Gibdo. I mean you can still see signs of his human parts.

[@ZacCarpenter]

Maybe the curse only effects adults so Link's too young to become a Gibdo. That could be why Pamela is also unaffected. Also tiny Gibdo would be funny. Especially if it started breakdancing in front of Pamela.

[@diyarts9378]

I paused your video at 4:41 because I had a brainstorm. If greed is what's causing people to become Gibdos while in the well, then Link doesn't become one because he was down there for selfless reasons, mainly to save Termina from extinction. Let's see if this is somewhat right..... EDITE: OMG, that was awesome... I had the same theory shortly after playing the 3D game for the first time. Nice to know I wasn't the only one. Too bad I never put up the video.

[@jackson5116]

I want to know how Pamela's father got out of the well. Did he crawl out, and suddenly start changing, and Pamela locked him up, or did he sense he was changing, and lock himself up, so he couldn't hurt Pamela? These are the questions that need real answers!

[@lebendigesgespenst7669]

I expected some mask answer or something, so you lost me there at first with that curveball, but after it’s all said and done your theory does really make a lot of sense to me

[@Legend_Zone]

Thank you! I'm sure there's probably another way to explain it, but this one felt pretty natural after seeing the other greed-related curses. Thanks for watching!

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

I do like the Triforce of Courage idea. I'm Jovani, I... became consumed by greed long ago, and sold my soul to a dark creature that did this to me. Who would've known that selling my soul to a demon would have been a bad idea? Seemed like a good idea at the time before the consequences. I used the Cursed Medal when treasure hunting, but I don't use it in the main quest.

[@autismo5518]

I like the idea of link not turning into a gibdo cuz he is already becoming a stalfos.

[@Rinkuto]

Nice! Keep up the good work, man! - -Where are the French subtitles though?- 👀

[@Legend_Zone]

👀 Is that who I think it is? Glad you enjoyed, and happy to see you stop by! Thanks for watching!

[@Legend_Zone]

Ooh, French subtitles... I may have to look into that 🤔 If only I knew someone who spoke French and English...

[@Rinkuto]

@@Legend_Zone Haha, no worries about the subtitles, just a joke!

[@artisk6876]

Good Thinking...😕

[@twamzay8999]

short answer: plot armor

[@BMed.]

I think its just because he is not an adult

[@wolfboyft]

Probably should put a spoiler warning just in case someone is browsing late at night and not paying attention (i.e. doesn't think "this'll have spoilers that'll make me emotionally miss out on an incredible part of the game").

[@agahnim0196]

Because gameplay as a Gibdo who have been annoying as hell... imagine if you could only walk at 0.5m/sec and your only move would be to puck enemies in the arse... lol :P

[@pradhampillai5958]

yeah nobody tthought about this thanks i guess