Why Long Covid Could Cost The U.S. $3.7 Trillion

Long Covid is not just changing the lives of those affected, but it is proving to have a significant impact on the American labor force and economy. About a quarter of the roughly 16.3 million working-age Americans currently suffering from long Covid are out of work, and according to one estimate, long Covid could cost America as much as $3.7 trillion. Many of those suffering are either running out of disability insurance through their employers or getting denied Social Security Disability Insurance or SSDI - an effect that’s expected to be long-lasting. In December 2021, Congress allocated $1.15 billion to the National Institutes of Health to study the long term effects of the disease. But many experts are saying that is not nearly enough.
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Why Long Covid Could Cost The U.S. $3.7 Trillion

[@me9661]

I’m sick and sick of being dismissed by Doctors 😢. Because I don’t have good insurance not one single dr can be bothered to fill out or back up my disability claim, not one. America is a cruel cruel place if you are not wealthy.

[@srimaruthi0001]

Then better to quit the USA!!

[@amber0290]

My sister got Covid in December 2020. To this day, she can barely taste and her sense of smell has not fully returned. Just awful. My heart goes out to others suffering.

[@boeing10000]

Ivermectin

[@harleyquinn5774]

I remember watching a news story about folks living with long haul symptoms after Covid left their bodies who got the vaccine when it became available and over the next few days their long haul symptoms cleared up. Has your sister since gotten the Covid vaccine? Search the following on KZbin: Covid-19 long haulers after taking Covid vaccine and watch the videos.

[@boeing10000]

Your smell and taste will come back within eight hours you lose it because of injury to the Vagus nerve. Man-made virus is no joke

[@salsa564]

@@boeing10000 doesn’t do anything for Covid

[@ex8280]

@@salsa564 I think it worked for me, the two times I was around people who caught it, I never got it. And I took the horse paste version too. Coincidence? Who knows.

[@mehvgaminz5163]

HEALTHCARE FOR ALL! INCLUDING DENTAL AND VISION! Healthy people are important for the country

[@najiib605]

And here in UK even though it’s passed now it’s still free and tests cost £2 basically a Tesco meal deal those with serious covid and underlying issues also free

[@h.b.7104]

I first had Covid in April 2022, was triple vaccinated and no pre-existing conditions. I am finally, seven months later, starting to feel a bit better. The deep fatigue is still there, but I'm able to work again and see slow improvement to where some days I feel like myself again. I am on a strict anti-inflammatory diet--no meat, no processed foods, no sugar, no alcohol. Long-Covid is real--it was so frustrating to go to doctors who didn't believe me. Even friends and family thought I was a drama queen.

[@Frank-um5mt]

You got poisoned by the vaccine

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

Same here, but I'm only 5 weeks into it... 😔 I feel like I'm dying.

[@farmerjohn6526]

And so , the vaccine didn't help ?

[@farmerjohn6526]

Try eating meat..

[@amies2113]

I did what you are doing and it drastically improved the brain fog ♡

[@katl6426]

One of my sons got swine flu when it came to Australia In 2009. He was a young, fit, healthy 26yr old. A year later he still had great fatigue, regular bouts of illness & tinnutis & eventually was diagnosed with post viral asthesia (effectively what is now called long covid). He continues to have all of those issues but has had to learn how to live with them. He's had covid twice this year & said it's pretty much the same but at least he knew what to expect & how to handle it. He'd prefer not to have it though as it's affected how he lives his life, including not being able to play sport. It's a really good reason to do what you can to avoid covid if possible, or minimise its impact

[@sherrryann]

My grandmother had long covid. She got cleared of it after 1 mo. Then had stroke(s) 2 mos later & died. No one would admit or say she died of long covid complications. But presumably she did.

[@peachberry2846]

I'm sorry for your loss

[@ale_hondra]

Sorry for your loss 😔

[@arih_rih]

i’m very sorry Sherry. may your grandma rest in peace.

[@kaylanbaby5987]

The exact same thing happened to my aunt. They kept talking about scaring on her lungs that they knew wasn't there before her covid diagnosis. She got over the initial infection and didn't have it bad at all. In comparison her daughter ended up on a ventilator. But a month and half later that scaring caused a lot of problems. A month and half later she died. I could not get them to admit that it was after effects of covid yet they knew she never was right after that virus.

[@sherrryann]

@@kaylanbaby5987 I'm sorry to hear you & your family experienced a similar situation. It would be interesting & probably terrifying to think or know how many people died from covid complications whose death certs don't reflect it & were consequently never counted in the covid death toll.

[@annmcnitt8749]

From this nurse: IF YOU HAVE A POSITIVE COVID TEST: Sign and date it, then get a PCR test. In many cases, you can only get Long COVID services if you have proof that you actually had covid, and some programs require a PCR test. Keep a copy of the photo of your test in your phone.

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

I got a preliminary diagnosis without it. In my area it has to be 3 months before an official diagnosis and specialized treatment. I tested positive for over 3 weeks but never recorded it.

[@mamamia9884]

I'm hopeful to see more and more media coverage on long covid. For those of us that are recovering slowly, we need to unite to make our governments on all levels hear us! As a long hauler, I continue to thank those willing to share their experiences. When you are so sick you feel isolated. Knowing that I'm not alone provides hope. Blessings

[@chukim8012]

No theyre just going to continue to ignore us. Then sneaky scammers will find a way to steal what little money the gov spends on this.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

The governments and other people in power would NEVER allow science to take precedence over propaganda. Never. For all who have long-term repercussions from C19... essentially, they're better off dead. That includes myself, although I wish it weren't the case. But I've been cajoled, lambasted, ridiculed, mocked, blocked, and ignored for YEARS now. 💪😎✌️ It is what it is, and being invisible is definitely worse than being a corpse.

[@seangill83]

Agreed! Been long hauling for over 1.5 years and glad to finally see more coverage on it. Good luck on your recovery, stay strong!

[@GeorgeSukFuk]

Try. I plus many others won't have my government tell me what to do anymore so I don't know what it is you're planning.

[@dugdoll3295]

Me too. I have had long haul since after quarentine in January 2022. 1 year now . Looking for those individuals who HAD Long Haul and HAVE recovered . Real hope of coming out of this, and possible ways to recover myself

[@kanwalbibi9180]

I just want to know why some people have long covid while others recovered in a week. I am only 25 but I have heart palpitations, vertigo, chest pains, blurry vision at times and my memory is so bad. I have tried everything from intermittent fasting to low histamine diet. I am good for sometimes and then it comes back. I struggle to go to job everyday and be a normal person like I was before covid. I don’t know anyone around me who’s suffering from long covid so no one seems to take me seriously. I would do anything to be my healthy self again. Sometimes we are ungrateful and take things for granted. It made me realize how important being healthy is. Its truly gold. I really sympathize with everyone going through this and I hope one day we recover from this.

[@brakanone6809]

genes would have to play a huge role

[@brakanone6809]

I been having health lately for about a yr and got dr. bills that werent covered but I think it covid related and the should foot the bill period.With thos covid-19 funds care act watever it is

[@vacafuega]

highly recommendjoining a long covid group on facebook or reddit, it's invaluable to feel more supported and less alone, and also keep up to date with research and recommended solutions - I was down for 2 years with ups and downs, currently doing way better after starting fluvoxamine. not back to normal but so much better. best of luck.

[@kanwalbibi9180]

@@vacafuega thank you!

[@Seagoatsunday]

sorry im a bit older and same crap. walking around the yard actually helped my dizziness.

[@rajaeelastname4878]

My Covid lasted 4 or 5 months. Fatigue was the worst symptom . I would do normal activities one day and feel fine. But the next day or two I would just feel fatigued . More research needs to be done

[@lw1zfog]

research post viral fatigue syndrome

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Nothing will be done about it. Certainly not for the poor.

[@rajaeelastname4878]

@@gayleforsocialjustice sorry to read about your condition. Am shocked that there is not much research into it considering the number of people that have it. Also number of people who can’t work anymore

[@zazollo]

I have been noticing severe short term memory problems for the last year or two. I don’t know that I’ve ever had covid - I guess I probably have and it just didn’t test positive - but I have a strong suspicion that I did have it and it’s the cause of my memory problems. It just came out of the blue and I don’t know what else it could be. It’s incredibly frustrating to be 30 and forget what I was saying in the middle of my sentences…

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

I know your pain. Much love to you 💙

[@LeTrashPanda]

You can have an asymptomatic case & still get Long Covid, unfortunately.

[@missspell4897]

Yep. Three of us got sick and I was the only who survived and it’s insane what it did to my body. For months my full time job was going to doctors appointments after “getting better”. I was on my feet all day at work and then would come home to an active toddler. Now I get so tired for no reason and if I do anything it’s like I ran a marathon. I don’t understand why and I just want it to be over.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

HUGE HUGS. I have depression and severe anxiety. It hurts. You are heard. Now if you have to scream, SCREAM THEM DEAF until hey do something! You deserve a healthy life!!

[@bubblez3177]

Because covid-19 and its variants are more of a recent and we will understand and find better therapies and treatments as time goes by. It sucks and chronic fatigue is debilitating- but it will get better! Maybe think of this as a break for your body for all the hardwork you did before. While resting, try meditation and vivid dreaming. There is also equipment people created if your laying down and unable to move very much. (Try disability aids and slowly learn short keys or voice commands for your phone or computer to reduce the amount of energy spent.) Some people end up working from their bed alone. I hope this was helpful for you.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

@Miss Spell... I resonate. And understand this: I became sick with the EARLIEST version of C19 (in late 2019). Scientifically speaking, that is when a virus is most powerful, yet the least transmissible. Absolutely no one believed me, because science doesn't matter--only feelings and beliefs. I actually think I'm LUCKY that I was in fairly fantastic shape because of my previous live performance background and high-octane martial arts work in the past. But C19 still absolutely destroyed me in at least a half-dozen ways. 😕 I'm an award-winning author now, but I had to completely abandon doing fairly rigorous physical activities. Not that I really miss them here in my older age, but... that's just it: I aged like "six" years in only THREE. 😳 It's friggin' lousy. And absolutely everyone abandoned me, lol... so... yup, I'm just on my own. It's probably for the best that it remains as such, I suppose. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@missspell4897]

@@AnimeShinigami13 I’m trying. I’ve just been having a hard time because one of those people was my husband so the anxiety, depression, ptsd set me back. It’s frustrating what that thing took from me

[@AnimeShinigami13]

@@missspell4897 all i can offer is a mind hug I'm afraid, and my sympathies, which will change nothing other than give you a brief warm rosy feeling. i mean I just got depressed because I was watching the entire country go insane while people died for no reason and I was afraid mom, dad, stepmom, gran or anyone else I was close to, or myself were going to die drowning in pir own blood, but nobody in my family ever got it. you, you've got a real reason to be depressed. man you want to talk nihilism? or gratitude? hearing stories like yours invokes both, gratitude that I and mine survived, nihilism wondering what use is protecting or fighting anyone anymore. i'm rambling, sorry, better go check dinner. plus my therapy cat is reacting to my body language again. damn I swear this cat is psychic.

[@strngenchantedgirl]

The combination of the deaths, disability and retirements because of covid is why we have a massive labor shortage. And is a significant contributor to inflation and the economic fallout of covid. It’s going to take years if not decades to recover from this pandemic on a societal level.

[@leifc.6045]

The global elites and the media love to screw people over yet again. Money talks

[@100Mmore]

Nonsense, it’s just a ruse to short staff business. Business realized they could run on a skeleton crew effectively, the only downside being employee overwork, which they don’t care about. Disability and retirement claims have no spared anywhere near the amount of deaths claimed from COVID.

[@strngenchantedgirl]

@@100Mmore ooo so that why all the restaurants and grocery stores close early now? To make more money for the company? Open your eyes. We are missing millions of workers from the economy. There are millions of job openings that can’t be filled. Everyone is hiring and no one is applying. The amount of times I’ve been turned away from a business because they had to close early or limit their service is nuts. I thought it would go away as people reentered the work force but it’s not. Because we are literally missing millions of people.

[@100Mmore]

@@strngenchantedgirl Yes they don’t need to pay overnight differentials then, or overtime. It’s a whole shift they get to layoff. If you knew what you were talking about that you’d know that those big paycheck protection loans have to be paid in full when the company hires a certain percentage of new personnel. So why would they hire and have to pay back those loans when they could simply put job announcements out and not call anyone back? Use your head - it’s all about maximizing profitability. The tendency for the rate of profits to fall is an economic law, not an opinion, this will continue to happen until the underlying economic infrastructure cracks.

[@dicktracy5234]

Not the free money that was given out like candy?

[@carmenlajoie2719]

How have US citizen's not been given Universal Healthcare yet, is insane

[@rw4022]

We don’t want universal healthcare

[@karlnando]

@@francismarion6400 you don't have a right to healthcare if you need money to access it. Rights don't come with conditions.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Because unfortunately, a large number of Americans don’t see healthcare as a human right. They believe you must ‘earn’ everything and if you can’t, that’s just too bad. It’s incredibly selfish

[@dickriggles942]

I wanted to ignore covid and return to work like nothing happened, but as an educator, frequent urination is a huge problem that I can't ignore. I've had COVID three times and it's ended twice. This time, I have frequent urination and now motion sickness while in cars that's really bad. I have serious PTSD from this and it's crazy. My dad is a doctor and I basically have no support from him because he's an idiot. He actually almost died from COVID, which is pretty ironic. Some of the biggest COVID deniers have almost died from it. It's crazy. I really pretty much have to wait it out and ask work for all the support I need. COVID is literally the worst thing ever, people have no idea. I just realize that as bad as it is for me, it could be worse.

[@cpt_kirkwood]

I really am hoping that you advocate for making in your classroom now. Each infection is not trivial and it’s heartbreaking to see problems succumbing to abelism before becoming disabled themselves. After getting covid the first time you won’t catch me without a mask. Horrible experience :(

[@gottagowork]

Have your blood sugar (glucose) levels checked. Instant levels with the help of a diabetic friend who can inform you where you should be, and at a GP doing long term glucose average. At least early on it was mentioned Covid could attack pancreas, and if beta cell production is affected, you could have become diabetic. Which could explain frequent urination. If you are, better start managing it. If not, well, at least you can strike that off. I'm not a doctor, but I'm diabetic from before Covid, and I got the diagnosis by accident when I thought I was all fine.

[@dickriggles942]

@@gottagowork Had blood sugar checked, am not thirsty all the time and it goes away after a few months every time. One time, I was eating and as much sugar as much sugar as I wanted, no problem until I got COVID again. Ok, I wasn't going overboard, but when I had long Covid, having too much sugar did lead to more frequent urination, or it could be my imagination. It was bad regardless. And it got better regardless. I think Hot sauce and butter aggravate it, maybe it's some sort of short term pancreatitis. It is slowly improving again.

[@dickriggles942]

@@gottagowork I think multivitamins aggravate it too. It was really bad when I got Delta, each infection has been milder.

[@bettysback6560]

Covid 20 days out. Now I have wear incontinence pads. I’m waking up at least 5 time a night. I had to stop working my housekeeping job it’s to physically demanding.

[@elir.torres8642]

I was in a COVID comma for a month and hospitalized for 3 months. It took me 11 months just to be able to do normal stuff including driving. I was denied Social Security. Luckily, I had savings, a healthcare plan, and my dad helped with part of the rent. Lucky, for me I had an apartment to come home to and my rent is $658 dollars. My vision is strained so I wear glasses now. The fatigue is there but is subsiding. I am lucky only to have a $6,000 medical bill. I was out of work for almost a year a year without any income. Because I exhausted most of my funds my brother is now my roommate and pays half the rent. I also had to go on Medicaid and Food Stamps. I also have a bachelors degree from a state university in software engineering and network security and I keep getting rejected and discriminated straight to my face. Some people are very nasty to me and open about their hiring practices. This is real people I am one of the lucky ones to be able to survive. I have but all given up on the job market. Lucky for me I have a software portfolio and I can create products that I can sell. I am in the process of opening my own consulting firm because I have no choice. I have also realized that I need to charge lawyer fees per hour because software is hard to make and its complex. I would love to be cheaper but with COVID and inflation I am left with no choice. Some people like this nurse can only do nursing which is really physically demanding. I am lucky to be in software engineering. For other people this situation is really bad.

[@FilthyFauci]

Wack-ccinated?

[@1992pv]

But did you get vaccinated or were you careless

[@JK_JK_JK]

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[@Seagoatsunday]

Its like nothing else! covid goes through you and destroyes whatever it can...im never going to be the same as the damage it did, hearing,nerveous system, heart function are just destroyed! I feel like im living in a nightmare! Unlike other diseases you just keep getting this crud and getting eaten away!

[@arih_rih]

@17th Meme Infantry people started suffering from long covid before the vaccines were created.

[@mc88dx]

We deny your insurance claim cause our executive members need a large bonus.

[@shiftybat7318]

My only symptom was a two-day long migraine, which is odd in itself because I Never get headaches. Ever since I have had a progressively harder time staying awake. Nothing gives me energy. To any Covid deniers out there I can point you in the direction of a steep cliff.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

so glad I wore a mask. >.< I have depression and anxiety already, i don't need more. I think my tendency to want to be alone for long periods and dislike of large noisy crowds saved me.

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

I have almost constant heart fluttering or pounding. At my best I can be awake for 6 hrs without going back to bed. Lately I'm beyond exhausted after being awake for 2-4 hrs. Never started until getting covid-19 5 weeks ago.

[@shiftybat7318]

@@bumblebootwiddletoes5185 You may begin to find that caffeine can't break you out of that funk anymore. It Sucks and it makes you feel like a burden. I am by no means cured but I have been taking vitamin supplements - D3 5,000 IU or more, B1 (Thiamine) 40,000, which sounds like a lot but you won't absorb all of it, and kratom powder, preferably green or white strains. I am not sponsored by or being told to recommend these things - it's just what's helping me function. The B1 will keep your energy levels up after taking for a while. The kratom may improve your mood and focus a bit. But the D3 (or a spoonful of nutritional yeast) should reduce your palpitations enough to let you sleep. It's a long road ahead - take care of You.

[@dermotfitzpatrick5045]

Possibly consider the following: The spike protein of the virus is using the TLR4 protein on T Cells to Trigger an inflammatory immune response. This is to cause deregulated release of Cortisol that lowers inflammation. TLR4 can stimulate the release of Cortisol from adrenal cells to combat inflammation but Cortisol then suppresses lymphocyte gamma interferons and IL-8 cytokines and effectively suppresses the primary immune response allowing the virus to spread. Cortisol also primes the secondary immune response and you get increased cytokine inflammation. To promote CD4+ helper T Cells you get elevated Extracellular ATP (the energy molecule) that increases Il-18 cytokines that in turn promote CD4+ helper T-Cells and increase lymphocyte gamma interferons. IL-18 cytokines are also linked to deep vain thrombosis so ATP has to help break down these blood clots causing fatigue.IL-18 cytokines can also cause release of histamine from Mast Cells that helps fight infection but can also cause inflammation. Cortisol at elevated levels also disrupts gastric secretions, lowers circulating testosterone needed to regulate systematic inflammation, causes ROS, causes insulin resistance and increase blood glucose leading to diabetes. Cortisol is also correlated with homocysteine. At elevated levels homocysteine is linked to stimulation of platelet activation (in vitro), COPD, Alzheimer’s, brain shrinkage and hardening of blood vessels and blood clots. With the original SARS the virus was found to be infecting the ACE2 receptors of cells in the endothelial wall. In response homocysteine increased the adhesive molecules on the surface of immune cells binding them to the infection causing inflammation.Blockage along the lining of blood vessels can cause cortisol to inhibit IL-10 signalling which regulates inflammation. By disrupting gastric secretions this means the ph levels are not low enough to promote secretions of the digestive enzyme Pepsin. Pepsin not only helps absorption of vitamins and minerals but also helps fight bacteria and viruses and in vitro break down upper respiratory blood clots. Cortisol can also increase TNF-Alpha cytokines by causing muscle cells to stop using glucose and start degranulating proteins. Excessive cortisol production can lead to adrenal fatigue which can cause chronic inflammation, fatigue, digestive issues and autoimmune disease. (Pernicious Anaemia is one such autoimmune disease identified. A blood test checking for B12 deficiency can identify this but allow for antibody interference as this can give false normal or even elevated levels of B12. Intrinsic factor antibodies can be considered) Disruption to gastric secretions can lead to a condition called Hypochlorhydria or low stomach acid. This means that food cannot be sterilised or digested properly and lead to a build up of bad bacteria and toxins. This can lead to bloating, diarrhoea, vomiting and acid reflux symptoms often misdiagnosed as high stomach acid. The acid reflux can be caused by build up of bad bacteria and toxins pushing out into the base of the oesophagus carrying particles of stomach acid causing inflammation at the base of the oesophagus. Inflammation at the base of the oesophagus can cause the top of the oesophagus to contract causing the sensation of a lump in the throat. Possibly consider the following (Always under medical supervision). 1. Taking a combination of 4,000 IU of Vitamin D3, C, B12, B5,B6 and magnesium and zinc. (This combination treats adrenal fatigue but also vitamin D blocks the release of Cortisol and lowers the expression of TLR4 proteins) 2. Drink twice daily 250 ml of water with 1/4 teaspoon of salt. This will help to increase electrolytes to treat adrenal fatigue and the virus may be hijacking the protease the body uses to regulate salt and water absorption. 3. Taking a gradual increasing dosage of Betaine HCL (500mg) with Pepsin (24mg) Betaine HCL inhibits TLR4 proteins, lowers key cytokines IL-18, IL1-b and TNF-a. It also increases IL-8 cytokines that promote neutrophils than coordinate T Cell immune response. (In a form of TB IL-8 cytokines were found to bind to the infection and stimulate a CD4+ and CD8 T Cell response) It reverses insulin resistance and lowers cellular atp. Betaine also lowers cortisol and homocysteine and increases testosterone needed to regulate systematic inflammation. Betaine HCL with pepsin is ineffective at low dosage but must only be considered under medical supervision as it can affect cellular atp needed to provide energy to cells and the body and also increases IL-8 cytokines that can cause inflammation in blood vessels. It cannot be take with aspirin, ibuprofen, Tylenol, steroids or Pepcid Famotidine as it can cause bleeding and ulceration to the stomach. It also cannot be taken during pregnancy. The dosage is 1 pill with each meal 3 times per day gradually increasing to 2 pills depending on tolerance. If the higher dosage causes nausea, vomiting or diarrhoea then lower the dosage. Any medication should only be considered under medical supervision. I hope this information helps

[@shiftybat7318]

@@dermotfitzpatrick5045 That was far more information than expected but I read every word and will attempt to rectify my situation. All I can offer in return is the hope of a good day.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

I knew this was coming from the start. I'm on disability for high functioning autism and I've BEEN on that "you don't look disabled" coaster. Its a nightmare. My ride was blissfully short because I got a lawyer to help me get my disability. But i had to give them some of my back payments. If you do this, make ABSOLUTELY SURE you are getting a lawyer pro bono. You can't afford to pay more. Every dollar you can keep from that back payment is CRITICAL. And make sure you take as many records as possible of what's going on, have those records IN YOUR HANDS. I blame the GOP for not understanding the bigger picture and not being WILLING to understand it. Diseases destroy the productivity of an economy. We see this in Africa with Malaria. Parents have to take off work because their child could DIE and they need to be there. The time they take off work means that they end up with the double blow of a seriously ill child, possibly losing a child, and losing the money they need to survive. If you decide the American way of life is non negotiable, you're going to run headlong into reality, which isn't going to negotiate. Its going to take out a hammer and beat the snot out of you for having the audacity to think your country is somehow immune to consequences. That's what's happening right now to the United States. Our political system believed it was immune to consequences, that it could just take take take. Now its our turn to suffer. Go to the ballot box in your local primary, vote progressive, for your health and freedom. By the time the regular election comes around, its too late and you're stuck with the neoliberal complacency that got us into this mess. Force companies to do their job for once instead of just sapping money from us for existing! Insurance is THERE for when you're in distress!

[@sarah29880]

It’s called chronic fatigued. I have had it for 7 years…it is not new!

[@AnimeShinigami13]

@@sarah29880 where's the line between that and clinical depression? Like the only sign of clinical depression I don't have is the suicidal ideation. I get irritable. I get sore. I want to eat too much. I sleep a lot. There's so much overlap between different mood related disorders its NUTS. Same with anxiety.

[@sarah29880]

@@AnimeShinigami13 yeah I mean they all overlap IMO, like I haven’t been able to exercise everyday since I am pregnant and my chronic fatigue got worse and if I can’t move around it impacts my mood then I start eating bad as well. It’s all connected

[@phoenixjordan7784]

This has been happening those with “invisible” debilitating injuries and diseases all along. Now it’s so much bigger. Prayers for everyone effected 🙏🙏🙏☀️🌹. Warriors! Take care

[@chrisbowles5135]

Sad to hear, I feel their pain going through the medical grinder as I call it for a long medical condition that still affects me to this day. Fortunately, my symtoms are minimal after 10yrs and I can live a somewhat normal life. But it affected my career long term and friendships. Our medical system is definitely broken.

[@kcw1879]

And once again, this kind of problem only exists in America. In every other industrialized nation, health care is FREE, and losing your home or going bankrupt due to medical bills is unheard of.

[@stage6fan475]

Those other industrialized nations don't have politicians powered entirely by campaign contributions from wealthy & corporations. They also don't have our high medical costs which are also powered by campaign contributions.

[@EricaGamet]

Those in the UK trying to be seen by a doctor in the NHS would highly disagree with you. Their healthcare is in a bit of a shambles, too... just in a different way than in the US.

[@Maddawg31415]

Indeed. And I do not see a solution to the conundrum minus a WWII-level disaster that annihilates American healthcare and forces us to start over.

[@alligator_pie]

I’m in Canada , it’s socialized medicine and it’s not free. It’s paid by taxpayers. Our system is utterly collapsing . God help anyone who needs an ER these days. Also , Treatment is not gold standard nor timely in our socialized system . Drs refuse to do even basic tests until whoops too late

[@jenny2tone242]

@@EricaGamet I'm in the U.K and while it is currently suffering with underfunding, it is still far better than what the U.S has.

[@cletokings4302]

I know one person with long COVID. It pretty much ruined his life. He lost his job of 20+ years and his wife left him. Edit: I see a lot of comments denying this reality. To these people I just wanna let them know that they are very lucky and maybe a little dumb.

[@isailevilopez5134]

Sounds like the result of covid lockdowns.

[@bradIeyyy]

They are long vaccine 😂 shouldn’t have taken that poison

[@ThePhoenix109]

True story.

[@min_g2608]

Agree. Its total ignorance to deny that this is happening, and its a damn shame too.

[@TH-eb5ro]

Agreed, the FB page survivor corps shows it is an issue worldwide.

[@m_ianO]

I’m dealing with this too. All of it. The exhausting. The bills. It’s hell. Although @2:30 those medications would make anyone a zombie. She should know that.

[@m.o.m.basiclifeskills2986]

Welcome to 'merica' . my daughter survived 2 brain surgeries and bacterial meningitis. They said she is disabled but gets no benifts because she's intelligent. But walking from her bedroom to the kitchen she needs to rest. The government doesn't care if people have chronic fatigue.

[@notyourbusiness2733]

I'm suffering from Long Covid, 2 years later. Multiple bouts of covid comes when my immune system is triggered by stress. The fatigue and brain fog is misery

[@cxa011500]

This is why we should have a free public health care option for everyone.

[@katie84]

I have had ME/CFS for nearly a decade since my mid-20’s. I was very active before then, had a degree from a good school & a great job. Now I’m unable to work, housebound, sometimes bedbound. Haven’t been able to get SSDI yet. My heart goes out to all those with long-Covid. Most of it isn’t new though - it’s just ME/CFS which has been around & ignored & disbelieved by most for decades. It took me 5 years to figure out what the h was going on with me, and another 3 to get a diagnosis. With this new awareness around long Covid / ME/CFS, people have the chance to learn about post exertional malaise and not make their condition worse (like me and so many others). Thank you for this story! We need to continue raising awareness. We need support and to be believed by doctors. It’s a horrid condition and the lack of understanding from everyone (doctors, family, friends) is one of the hardest parts.

[@ThePhoenix109]

How much do you get paid posting this?

[@richardraymond9108]

@@ThePhoenix109 uidiot

[@KailuaChick]

Totally agree. I’ve had POTS for 12 years and was constantly denied the option to wfh as a disability accommodation until the pandemic. More people know about pots and ME/CFS thanks to covid but it sucks that it took a global pandemic to raise awareness of something that’s been affecting a lot of people for decades.

[@lw1zfog]

fact is, if pHARMa can create a new label for something old, then a whole new market & multiple seams of potential profit opens up before their hungry eyes.

[@ANUPSINGH-it8jj]

@@ThePhoenix109 can me cfs are fake not illness

[@caitlinweiss8801]

I'm grateful my Covid symptoms only lasted 2 months but I'm still shocked by how bad it was. I had to drop out of school for a semester as I couldn't stay awake for more than an hour or so at a time and I couldn't think clearly. And the sudden muscle cramps and pains, it was awful.

[@h.b.7104]

Similar experience here. Deep fatigue. I would have to take long naps in the afternoon--my body would just shut down on me. Never experienced anything like that before. Finally seven months later I am improving but very slowly.

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

Same thing happening to me... But also with heart fluttering or pounding

[@magicfairy7805]

Fully vaccinated. Double boosted earlier this year. Got Covid for the first time 4 days ago. A couple of days with mild cold symptoms, now I am feeling 100 percent well. As a 61 year old woman I am so relieved.

[@alexandralawson9578]

Same boat I’m 34, mom of two,a baby and toddler. We are fully vaccinated and boosted aside from my baby. We had covid weeks ago it was mild, I hope that’s all it is. I pray everyday I worry for my boys and how there life will be. Stay strong to all.

[@qwerasdfjkl1990]

I wonder if long covid is exasperating the labor shortage the US is experiencing

[@LizThrash]

ive seen articles that agree with this

[@dmad4078]

No they just got lazy sitting at home, now they want the government to take care of them.

[@TH-eb5ro]

I do not know anyone in that situation, do you?

[@qwerasdfjkl1990]

@@TH-eb5ro ​ I've known someone who was vibrant, happy, and always energetic. Until she got Covid in late 2020, she never fully recovered. she had all these long covid symptoms that this video mentioned, but never got a changed to get diagnosed after so many trips to different doctors and tests. A year later she committed suicide.

[@johnbee7729]

Based on this video there are at least 2 people who are no longer working. I would therefore assume that there are ma y many more. The true numbers will likely never be known

[@asheharris6642]

I had covid and was out from work for 2 weeks, which was unforgiven time off so I had to pay for it like I was on vacation. Then I had to go back, but was still very symptomatic. Took off for a couple more days and had to pay for it with what little time off I had left. Went back to work with symptoms after that. It took me over 3 months to get back to any level of normal. I've been dealing with unimaginable migraines (including inside my eyes) ever since, never had them before that. That was 2 years ago. I just literally work through it because it's all I can do. I work from home so it helps. I've taken so much tylenol in the past 2 years I'd be surprised if I didn't have liver problems down the road. Covid wrecked me, not as much as these poor souls, but it was an awful virus. No one should have to suffer from it like this. I hope all of the studies come up with some way to combat it.

[@ThereAreNoBlackPpl]

💁🏽‍♀️i had long covid before they knew what it was, this was at the very beginning of the out break. after feeling like covid almost killed me in my home, i was fatigued all the time, brain fog had me walk out into traffic and almost get hit by a car, and it took months before i felt normal again. To those suffering, stay strong and try to push yourself as much as you can, like physical therapy, walk through the park, build your strength, eat better, sleep more, don’t stress, and hopefully one day you can get back to normal like me. i even just caught covid again, different strain than the original because it just knocked me down for one day but then i was back up again. only had the 1st 2 shots over a year ago.

[@Frank-um5mt]

You got poisoned by the Covid vaccine

[@ThereAreNoBlackPpl]

@@Frank-um5mt but everyone got poisoned by your very existence😘

[@kylen4701]

I almost died in 3-4 times when driving after I had covid. I forgot how to drive at times and pulled out into traffic. I had no choice I had to drive to work or become homeless. I learned to drive VERY slow and stop for longer at every light, stop sign. It took 6 months but I recovered at least to 90%.

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

@@francismarion6400 can you read? Obviously not. She had long covid BEFORE vaccines were available. You are OBSESSED. Go visit your great great great great grandfather. PLEASE.

[@ThereAreNoBlackPpl]

@@kylen4701 i feel for you, it’s crazy when that fog hits your brain. glad to hear you managed.

[@dianecarubia1099]

this is ME/CFS, i have been ill for 20 years after an infection, i had to resign my job as a medical professional and stop any social life. Both of these things would exhaust me to be in bed for a week afterwards. Just a meal with friends would tip me over the edge. Every system in my body would be activated and all not work together resulting in a feeling of utter exhaustion, hangover, flu and jetlag, the symptoms are too variable and fluctuating to explain. I have had vertigo, BBPV, severe abdominal pain attacks, IBS, tinnitus, unable to get up my own stairs, blood that feels like lead, brain fog, PEM, insomnia, etc etc. Maybe if they hadn't told us decades ago that ME/CFS was all in our head we wouldn't be in this position. I am now 58 and i will never work again. I am lucky my husband has supported us nad i had my kids before i got ill. I applied for a blue badge for parking but was denied as on the day i could walk to my car. Which is true but on other days i cant. My GP even wrote a letter to help but it still got denied. my working contribution to the NHS and the cost of my degree to the state has all been lost, but no one cares! so called long covid is just ME/CFS caused by Covid. Good luck everyone!!

[@Analoguedialog]

​@@mango-strawberry no, they haven't bothered researching it.

[@kathleenking47]

Stay away from energy drinks, alcohol and drugs...

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

I had chronic fatigue and chronic pain for twenty years, so totally understand being gaslighted or not believed for an ‘invisible’ illness, then I got COVID in Jan. 2022. My symptoms worsened, until recently, I lost vision in my left eye. I’ve reached a level of frustration a number of times and it took everything to not want to end it all. The medical community is failing in patients with chronic illness, just pretending like it doesn’t happen and very few practitioners are interested in getting to the root cause, they simply throw all types of medicines at you that do nothing or bring serious side effects, then tell you there is nothing they can do. Sending so much love out to all the people with long COVID, you are not alone🙏🏼

[@coleengoodell7523]

My ex-husband was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. He was able to get medical care through the VA and was able to get his prescriptions from them as well. The man went from a very fit workaholic to barely being able to stand, walk, think or talk. He was repeatedly denied SSDI for years and had no income at all. His disability wasn't service related so Veterans disablility benefits were also denied. He lived with his Mom in the final years of his life before he committed suicide. It was unbelievable that someone with a diagnosis of a known debilitating disease that destroyed his life was denied SSDI. He was never approved.

[@bbygrlpt2]

But did he developed PD from Covid?

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

The government does everything possible to not pay disability, including making people who apply jumó through hundreds of hoops, and treat you like you are a thief. That’s because Americans don’t see healthcare as a human right

[@hannahcarney2250]

she's on xanex and sleeping pills and she's questioning why she's tired all the time...yo America, ever thought that your FOR PROFIT health care system wants you to be sick?

[@lilphilosophy481]

Murican moment

[@jeanettealfred3054]

the xanax = mixing words up

[@amorrbaby8354]

That part

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

Xanax is as needed. When I was on benzos my dose was small enough to not affect me, but it was enough to stop panic attacks. Trazodone is hardly a sleeping pill. It's a sleep aid mostly given to people who can't sleep sometimes because they are very stressed out.

[@hannahcarney2250]

@@bumblebootwiddletoes5185 to put this into perspective - no - no it's not needed. The UK will not prescribe these to you. You can't get sleeping pills without w major sleep disorder and you certainly cannot get Xanax, Adderall or any other major drug like that.

[@dehartfamily3091]

😢 I wish we could go back in time and change this. The work force is suffering, people are suffering and I’ll tell ya, one way or another, we will all end of paying for the negligence of a few

[@eckankar7756]

I recently retired as an RN. Nurses should get hazard pay or have some disability safety net. We get spit on, coughed on, pooped and peed on, vomited and bleed on every day in the ER. I worked in the Trauma and ER for 20 years. I've been hit, strangled, tackled to the floor by altered patients. We are so exposed to abuse and infections nurses, physicians, techs, should have a better support than just commercial insurance of disability.

[@BombingUrToiletAgain]

I was charged 1,400 for just walking into an Emergency Room.

[@silasla]

My brothers little child smiled to me, wanted me to read from his book... I've realized I could not do that due to long covid. It's been one year and I still remember the shocking realisation

[@mothrakaiju7344]

If doctors paid any attention to many years CFS/ME then we would not be in this predicament.

[@crystalnavarro8012]

I really hope that we can get some answers because it is no joke, always been healthy until after covid, for the first time seen an H/O, Cardiologist, Neuro....the list goes on. And if you look at the before and after from Covid, you will notice difference on our faces. We are not the same people and it is so heartbreaking to see yourself deteriorate before your eyes. Stay strong keep fighting please!

[@ronkirk5099]

I'm an old guy and before vaccines became available, long covid was my worst fear. I got vaccinated and boosted at my earliest eligibility. I still got a mild case, but fortunately I recovered after a couple weeks with no side effects.

[@moneybilla]

that “mild” case was actually from ur shot, the amount of ppl who got sick after getting it is crazy hell faucci the dude who made it even said ur better off without when being questioned ina hearing thing

[@TheTrailburner]

@@moneybilla Did you know that it's Russia spreading the lie falsely claiming the vaccines are causing harm? He's doubling down on destabilizing the west because he blames the west for his failed "Ukrainian Special Operation"

[@blakemorgan8450]

@@moneybilla Fauci did not make the vaccine. WTF are you talking about?

[@ninastone9054]

@@moneybilla Sure. We will take the opinion of "Money Billa/DJ Murdaa". What a complete crock of sh*t

[@1992pv]

@@moneybilla You do realize that if you got sick when you got the shot, that means that you probably had it in your system prior to the getting the vaccine. You should ask your doctor. Or if you're like most Americans who died from covid-19, go ask your mechanic who can google the answer. Lol.

[@faikerdogan2802]

It literally robs you of your life. Cfs people can relate

[@notyours1612]

It sure does 😭

[@brakanone6809]

@@missvegasable dont think negative thoughts it makes it much worse and dont watch politics or msm .oR ANYTHING WITH BAD ENERGY

[@brakanone6809]

@@missvegasable it feeds long covid somehow and of course anything that weakens the system isnt gonna help any.But ppl are having panic attacks etc.PTSD and THE MEDIA and entertainment isnt helping.Every morning try to center yourself if u can few a couple hrs and not get on any devices until later.Control is just a illusion we arent in control of anything ,find stuff to be happy about and just focus on the good not bad.And theirs always hope ,even if your staring death right in the eye.

[@BenG123]

Would love to see the long COVID stats US vs Europe. Also wondering how long haul experts differentiate this from fibromyalgia.

[@FilthyFauci]

I would love to see the long covid stats of wack-ccinated vs pure blood.

[@1992pv]

There would probably be a 3:1 American to European. Americans still aren't fully vaccinated.

[@notyours1612]

As someone who has had Fibromyalgia for years there is no comparison.

[@elizabethr4107]

My gf in Scotland w long covid has really struggled w proper care in the NHS system. She's been out of work for over a year. She got it prior to access to vaccines and is herself a physician. Now stuck in a bed and without hope for a cure.

[@Seagoatsunday]

@@FilthyFauci love to see you learn to READ! lol

[@puremaledark8305]

I have this junk and I dont wish it on anyone. I cry every day because i cant do anything

[@horizon319]

I’m hoping that this new disease - long Covid - it will help us to change our system. All of these issues - all of them: out of work, invisible illnesses, loss of income, being DENIED insurance, work, disability - have all been an serious and life-threatening issue before Covid was even existed. Until we make serious and effective change to care for one another rather than playing the numbers game.

[@cherylcarlson3315]

Got sick in 2016 took months to recover, starting having symptoms of neuromuscular disease, been through 3 SSDI denials, got it with attorney which shouldn't be needed, 7 neurologists with advice from just take B12, or carnitine or learn to live with it. Mestinon used for MG has improved situation by10-20% by some quantifiable data despite no antibodies. Really only certain it behaves like MG in everyway. I was certain I was going to die before the med, could only walk about 200 ft with cane, in tears, falling often and so exhausted I had to use bipap and oxygen to rest. Now can walk 5 times further if I plan ahead and don't do any exertion including eating afterwards. Have had covid definitely twice and illness that tested neg but lost sense of smell/taste and all covid symptoms. Each time is brutally exhausting and back to just eating and taking dogs out, showering once a week and struggling with feeling useless. 39 yrs of active nursing means I am stubborn in the face of medical gaslighting which hurts more than the illness. Really hope they keep researching, the key is just there...

[@AnimeShinigami13]

I've heard some interesting things about antihistamines. But I'll be the first to tell you I'm not a doctor. Look on... I think it was sci show that did a special on long covid research? Find their sources there may be something you can use.

[@cherylcarlson3315]

@@AnimeShinigami13 antihistamines only block the histamine response to allergen. What happens in neuromuscular disease and it seems in long covid is a complex antibody/ autoimmune response.No comparision. People need to be careful taking random stuff discussed on internet. I have what helps, Mestinon. Thanks.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

@@cherylcarlson3315 *nods* wish you the best.

[@lg8479]

Coming from this disability examiner, I can assure you that your having an attorney is not the reason why you were finally approved. There are several reasons why you may have finally been approved, but getting an attorney was not one of them.

[@AnimeShinigami13]

@@lg8479 Oh goody you're one of the people who could tear my whole world apart on a capricious whim. You know how much hassle it was to get disability with undiagnosed high functioning autism? I wasn't properly diagnosed until I was 22. >.< and I feel judged, in the worst way, every time the paperwork comes in. and near panic if my meds provider doesn't seem to take the deadline for it seriously. "Oh sweetie you don't need me..." without telling me there was a person at the psychiatrist's office who's entire job was helping folks with paperwork. I need the system, but the people running it throw me into a panic unintentionally. And I absolutely did need an attorney to get it, because I had no organizational skills, no knowledge of the system, no knowledge of the law, no knowledge of medical insurance, and dad was paying my rent and groceries asking when I was going back to college after my condition and medication caused me to tank a 10k scholarship and my self esteem was through the floor. At the same time there was a lot of neoliberal anti disability BS going on in the political news. And I'm still convinced there are politicians who would totally gut the system and then laugh at my panic like some kind of sadistic psycho killer if they could.

[@vanesslifeygo]

Entitled people who spread around covid so much in the beginning for it to evolve into what it is today are to blame. Don't do *only* blaming some far away country when you knew the virus was here and you decided to not distance yourself from people.

[@lukecastle2538]

Blame China for creating it and unleashing it on us

[@Maddawg31415]

The problem is that strategy was no good after a few weeks. Compliance was not great- you can’t isolate humans for a long period of time and expect good compliance and outcomes. That is the quagmire

[@charliegordon2266]

This has been my life since Feb 2019. I was a active vet tech, wife and mother. Looking forward to extending my family to another child and moving to a off grid cabin to start our own homestead. One day after work walking my dogs I had a spike in blood pressure and heart rate ended up at the ER 3 times in a week. Never was able to go back to work. Have a 7 year old son that was only 4 when I got sick. I have had heart rate issues, blood pressure issues, major fatigue and sleep issues, GI issues, skin issues, dizziness, sore body all over, pain everywhere. Everytime I go to the doctor they say nothing wrong. Went to over 40-50 doctors and specialists. Tried natural medicine, functional medicine, chiropractor, cfs clinic, everything imaginable. Now I sit at home in bed or a chair waiting to die. I have no life with my husband and son. I can't be much of a mother and we are at the point of not being able to pay for mortgage and food. No one cares. Doctors say nothing can be done and just live like this. I used to work 40 hours a week and got outside to walk and hike every chance I could. Loved to garden, cook, be outside and active with my son. Always on the go and never sat down till bedtime. I just don't think I can do it anymore. Don't want to leave my son that's only about to be 8 years old but he doesn't even know who his mother really was. I think suicide is the only way out of this after 4 years. Of course no disability but that wouldn't fix my body anyway so it's like what's the point anymore. I think that we should qualify for death with dignity but since it is not " terminal" can't do that either. All my hopes as a mom are gone to do anything normal with my son or have more kids. I think the worst part is that no one can even tell me why this happened. I wasn't sick before it happened just always tired and had aches and pains which I thought was from working a physical job. Life is gone as I know it and I just can't take it anymore. I think everyday is today the day I go hang myself out back of my house because I see no point in living anymore and just want to be at peace from this awful life I have been handed.

[@sweeneyfitzroy1995]

Hi Charlie I'm so sorry you've been going through this. I encourage you to reach out to a mental health professional. Calling or texting 988 is also an immediate option.

[@charliegordon2266]

@@sweeneyfitzroy1995 That is not going to fix my physical body and suffering. It is not depression.

[@Jack-bs7cy]

Tramadol it rewires the brain take it with muscle relaxer.

[@Jack-bs7cy]

Tramadol it rewires the brain take it with muscle relaxer

[@thevalkyrie8]

Have you tried drinking CDS (MMS) daily, taking DMSO, NAC, zinc, vit D2, zeolite, chameleon plants (research it) and vit B 12 = apricot kernels (I don’t think you can buy NAC and DMSO in US but you can buy it most places in UK

[@larissawhitt9922]

I had Covid October 2022 and I’m now suffering from DAILY migraines. While I had chronic migraines before I had them managed to where I had them maybe 2-4 a month. Nothing will touch the migraines now. And doctors can’t seem to figure out what could help me at this point. Between that and fatigue life hasn’t been the same since getting Covid and it sucks. I’m grateful it’s not as bad as others but it still is absolutely miserable.

[@shawnstanton2443]

Hard to watch my sister , Jennifer, like this but this has to come out to the light I am sharing this story with as many as I can Hope others will do the same

[@shawnstanton2443]

@@missvegasable I will add you to my prayers A heartfelt hope you and my sister and all get the help needed

[@stevenmessina3077]

Breath deeply and Let it RIP - the CDC Director was told by Delta to get back to work. :) She was out for 18 days. Now the VA study shows reinfections are cumulative in risk #Longcovid aside as a vascular disease, the Tsunami of Heart Attacks and strokes are already happening - MaskupKiddies

[@me9661]

I have this! Caught it from a patient a month after the women in this video. I believe that this was the worst strain causing LC. Lost my health ins and my income so the low paid drs who see me dismiss me. “All bloodwork looks fine”. I am far from “fine”. It’s not fair. I worked the pandemic and this was my price for it. It makes me sick that our country doesn’t support sick citizens. Hind sight is 20 20 😭. It’s just not fair……..

[@shannonfreeman1]

I have the same, im exhausted all the time. Memory is bad, oxygen is rarely above 92.

[@leslie6189]

If you are on workplace benefits, and are pursuing continued workplace benefits... It is standard practice to be under surveillance. This happens routinely in the chronic pain community. They follow and observe what you can do, but they are not at home with you later to see how much pain is caused, or how wiped out you get from basic errands and tasks

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Thank you for making this point, because having chronic pain differs by day. Some days, I wake up and have energy to do the tasks of life, and other days I just can’t. If someone happens to ‘catch’ you on a up day, they would think your are faking, when you’re not. It’s why I’ve never filed for SSI, don’t want to put myself through that.

[@leslie6189]

@@down-to-earth-mystery-school please check out "Post Exertional Malaise" (PEM)... it is a hallmark diagnostic criteria for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME/CFS). If that resonates with your symptomology.. Then do seek diagnosis for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis(ME) (ME/CFS) Many people with a diagnosis of fibro, actually have Myalgic Encephalomyelitis.... If you have symptomology of PEM... That is the key identifier of ME.. (ME/CFS)... Noting CFS is no longer a PC or client centred terminology... Stick with ME as current terminology. SEID Systemic Exertional Intolerance Disease was also briefly used terminology, that term is still used in some circles.. and there is some research under that title.... But so much more research and reporting needed.. Good luck, best of Health

[@jenrhemgotcha1417]

This is the struggle for ppl with mental illness as well

[@ohcharlie428]

I wss gonna say....that lady at the beginning just seems lethargic and sad. Same with other counts of this. Seems like this could be so many other things with the array of meds shes on..

[@emd2831]

I have long covid , caught it from my double vaccinated boyfriend and I’m unvaccinated still to this day I still cant hardly taste or smell anything, the fatigue and brain fog is absolutely ridiculous and I’m constantly achy and sore, my runny nose and mucus just never seemed to get better either .There’s research suggesting that covid could be reactivating mononucleosis in people.I live in Canada, the sad truth is free health care isn’t going to help these people in the US with their symptoms it will only help the financial aspect , doctors don’t know why it’s happening and so many of us have essentially been told by doctors that they can’t really do anything for us and to figure it out on our own , they aren’t even sure what treatments to do or what to look for .Post viral syndromes like CFS are nothing new in the world , doctors just don’t know how to treat it and many sufferers are treated like they are faking it .I’m in a Facebook group for people suffering from this and loads of people still ended up with long covid even though they were vaccinated, it really can happen to anyone the situation is just sad and unfortunate . There’s research that is showing People with long covid have brain swelling as well and even hair loss , scientists still cant prove this virus came from an animal I believe more and more everyday this was a bio weapon intended to damage people . I also hope this creates more research into post viral syndromes like CFS

[@ilovesketching1]

I totally relate as I even have symptoms like as though I have Parkinson’s but I do not and the head pressure is relentless along with the exhaustion life is not the same I live like a 90+ year old & is shocking because I was so active before

[@paulboring9053]

Been over two years for me. Just recently feeling more like I did before.

[@bbygrlpt2]

Somethin happend to a fam member when the virus hit she was exposed to it by someone living with her. She didnt get exactly sick from it but a couple of weeks later she started feelin weak, and it got progressively worse. Now she can barely walk with a walker her legs are super weak and docs dont know why. Theyve given her many medications and nothin works

[@beccascraps8141]

Don’t forget POTS . Covid triggered POTS in me, I’m in a similar situation

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

I got REALLY sick in late 2019--it was definitely C-19. I lost all sense of taste and smell. ALL OF IT. In 30+ years, this had obviously never, ever occurred before. I was beyond exhausted, but I was already a pretty strong guy, and I still worked through it. But NO ONE CARED. :) Not even my (now ex) girlfriend, nor her family, nor my own, LOL. They were ANGRY with me. Claimed I was making excuses. I never had health care, and I was basically "poor", so... I handled it alone. NO ONE CARED. C19 OBVIOUSLY HIT THE WORLD VERY HARD. I tried to warn people in early, early 2020 about the similarity in the trends from the 1900's pandemic (influenza)--no one cared. I kept pushing as things got MUCH worse for everyone very quickly in April, but everyone denied it was anything substantial because "reasons". No facts required, NO ONE CARED. By then, 90% of all people had completely abandoned or 'blocked' me after I was mocked, cajoled, lambasted, ridiculed, and labeled a "communist", since I was pretty vocal about being anti-Chump (and his idiotic ways of 'handling' the pandemic). NO ONE CARED. Thousands died from complications of C19. No one cared. Some of my friends died from it. A few people were sad about that. Millions finally died. But ultimately, NO ONE CARED. TL;DR = NO ONE CARES! :) But I quit worrying about it once the whole attack on the Capitol on 1.6.21 occurred. I've had enough of this nonsense. I don't have to sit here and listen to fuggin' NAYSAYERS and people with their heads in the sand. And don't think that the 1.6 date wasn't pivotal. Anyhow. I'm just doing my own thing from now on. Everyone else can go F themselves. I'll do what I what, when I want, how I want, as often as I want. LEAVE ME ALONE. You wanted it, so... YOU GOT IT. Stay away from me, asshats.

[@coleengoodell7523]

People can be very selfish and self absorbed. I remember in Jr. High School a song we sang in chior. One of the lines was "Money, you've got lots of friends coming round your door. But when your down and making ends, they don't come round, they don't come round no more." I didn't realize the truth or depth of that at such a young age at all. They were just words of a song. I'm 62 now and completely understand how true it is. Even family turn their backs on you and like you, it was made worse by my absolute and complete, not having it, dislike of trump. I couldn't and still can't stand to look at him. Unfortunately I found myself alienated by the few friends and family that I had left. I hope you you realize, as I have, years and years ago, No matter who rejects you, Never reject yourself. God bless and stay strong. F the Fn Fers. lol

[@pinlight97]

Ha ha, come by my place! We all hate his stupidness here. You just have to cross a border first. Oh, and a few idiots on my side think that our p/m is a bigger problem. Which is laughable….stupidity is contagious, apparently. He’s not the best (he is, after all, a politician) but he isn’t this devil incarnate that people got their panties in a bunch over. Anyway, I hear you! Feel the same way…but at least here I can go off and people actually agree. I think your main issue is that your political system is dubious, and people will believe anything that suits them other than actual truth. 🤦‍♀️

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

@@coleengoodell7523 I appreciate the reply. To be clear, I've never given up on myself. I've accomplished more in 30+ years than many could achieve in 3x the duration. I'm an award-winning author, and also about to launch book 2 on 12.21.22. Books 3-6 will appear over 2023-2026 as well. Almost no one has truly contributed to my work and achievements except myself. It is what it is. Nothing but betrayers, users, abusers, and go-with-the-flow trolls have peppered my acquaintances and interactions over the decades. Again, that's just how it went--LUCK. But I can't help them anymore, anyhow. They have to pursue their own materialistic goals. As for myself, I'm leaving behind a legacy from which the world can Reflect (if it so chooses). It's still none of my business if they do, though. My last stop is comin' up soon, and I'll be glad to never return to this location again (if it's even around much longer). 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

[@coleengoodell7523]

@@Novastar.SaberCombat That's very admirable. Hope to see you on the other side and that your books are success. God bless.

[@billdoty6438]

I feel so bad for this wonderful nurse who has given her time and energy for 30 years to help others. Then when she needs help , she’s not sick enough. Why don’t they come to her house and see how many drugs she has to take to even function at her lowest level.. The system is broken, hope nobody that works for social security ever gets long Covid, would they deny themselves benefits?

[@sarah29880]

It’s called chronic fatigue. It’s not new

[@whohan779]

This is such an important topic! I've gone through something similar years ago when I was still a teen (in '13), it's gotten so many regular functions of my body out of whack and I felt like an entirely different person. Sometimes life just felt like existing with no point ahead. Since having first-hand experience of what a less serious virus (in my case likely H1N1 swine flu) can do to even kids that were young, healthy and barely ever sick, I knew this would likely transfer to an emerging pathogen of that scope. This left me with an awkward feeling of intrigue, like "How would an infection affect me if I already have such symptoms?" (I decided the earlier variants were too dangerous to intentionally risk it), now I can say (triple-mRNA Pfizer done last December if anyone cares). Yes, the troat- and cough-related stuff of the infection was serious for me, but luckily if anything it has gotten me into a better state of mind than I was in before, I feel like continuing with my life, like fighting through, not merely withering away basement-dwelling and eating too much. Yes, I'm very special in that regard, but the fact that the pandemic is now finally basically over for me unless more immune-escaping mutations arise, is such a relief. My deepest condolences for those still affected from various stuff, I can obviously not assess if you could've feasibly prevented your prolonged suffering, but I really hope you get recognition and won't just end up with a cocktail of pharmaceutica until some form of tragic death. Been there, contemplated suicide already, I'm glad I'm finally out of it and can go on with my life including all those things that I missed (including but not limited to having a 'normal' partnership and so on). My mental state is far improved now (admittedly I'm on some weak antidepressant) and I can rather safely say my somewhat fruitless ordeal with doctors is over mostly. It's sad what I missed, but it's in the past. Having understood it basically all help me coping.

[@jwanie366]

I don't think this is being talked about enough. Living with long COVID is way worse than dying from it imo. You got COVID and didn't feel anything? Good for you. Unfortunately not everyone has been that lucky

[@elizabethr4107]

And hopefully they took precautions even if they were asymptomatic to protect those not so lucky

[@brakanone6809]

I think your right.

[@heathermcdonough8797]

What?? IMO, Your life must be pretty miserable if you think death is better than living... people live very happy and fulfilled lives with cancer, HIV, uncurable illnesses, severe pain, missing limbs, etc.

[@brakanone6809]

@@heathermcdonough8797 I had to deal with some of the covid issues here lately and death is more tame ,it's a f-ing nightmare not joking

[@stage6fan475]

One of our political parties is in the business of claiming Covid was just mainstream media overreacting.

[@Angelstar7774]

I’ve had ME/CFS for over 20 years and my heart breaks for these formally full-time employees encountering this mysterious disease for the first time. I had to stop working full-time and instead started a freelance patternmaking business which organically grew into a full package apparel business, and after I got covid in 2020 when my symptoms got much worse but by that point thankfully I had long-standing clients who support me. I don’t have to work every day in the office as a business owner and the ability to take a day off here and there has been crucial. After 20 years of dealing with this, the honest truth is I’ve completely given up on doctors. But starting a business actually really helped with the neurological symptoms, and the other thing I do that helps is exercise once weekly or bimonthly (strength training and cardio). That might sound crazy I know, but my body at least, does *slowly* start to get back in shape with increased stamina and momentum. For the past year and a half I’ve been exercising then crashing for a few days to 2 weeks. This week, for the first time since I got covid, I was able to work the day after exercising and I plan to do 30-45 mts of cardio tmrw. Before 2020, I actually went snowboarding annually. That’s how much stamina I had built up. A beta blocker to keep my heart rate down has been helpful post 2020 too. I never got to the point where I was “back to normal” but I could function, enough, with breaks. Basically sadly I’ve just had to learn how to live with it, but I hope this helps somebody who’s newly confounded by long covid. I remember that time was so stressful. The body may lose some functionality but it is still capable of learning new skills, as challenging as that might be.

[@SN2903]

I'm over 10 months into LC still cognitive issues, orthostatic intolerance and higher than normal heart rate at rest and standing, sleep issues, tinnitus and I got new headaches in the past few months. Doctors don't seem to know whats going on. I'm a social worker and only working part time before this. I'm only 3-4 years into my career and this happened.

[@Angelstar7774]

@@SN2903 I understand completely, same here, but you got 4 years of experience before you were sick. Me too, I was able to work full time for 4 yrs, and I heavily relied on that experience when starting my business. We were still able to establish our careers which is invaluable. But regardless I’m sorry this happened to you. I’m hoping with the new interest and funding they’ll be able to find a cure soon 🤞🏼

[@zoehicks880]

I’m not a doctor but I’m not sure benzodiazepines are the best thing to be giving people who are having issues thinking clearly. Xanax can lead to more memory loss and slow thinking

[@guyray2706]

Got mine January 1st 2022 . Felt as if I was dying. My biggest problem is Balance. I get dizzy watching cars and can lose my footing just looking in a different direction. I still get eye fatigue. I'm better now but every few weeks I get different symptoms .I'm not the person I was before and now I have anxiety from all this. I hope more voices are heard and we can all be our selves again some day soon . You Are Not Alone ❤️

[@ex8280]

Just be glad you vaccinated, imagine if you werent?

[@traybern]

REFUSED to play by the rules, huh? REFUSED ALL the vaccines you SHOULD HAVE taken? Aww……TOUGH CRAP!!!

[@katie-kb6qd]

I got covid May 2022. Even today, almost 2023, I have chronic nausea, severe fatigue, now get shortness of breath just by going up one flight of stairs, and still can’t smell properly. It’s awful

[@DragonKingGaav]

This is why I still wear a mask and I've been boosted twice.

[@kafilkavich707]

Well I feel greatly sorry for you, in my city I've been out and about every night and 99% of people never wear a mask!! Keep living in fear bud!! Must be a news station troll!!!

[@miaomiao07]

@@kafilkavich707 what are you talking about? This is precaution

[@miaomiao07]

Same. I've gotten my first jab and booster twice

[@helloimclaudio]

@@kafilkavich707 you’re the only troll here

[@millenka8089]

Be interested to know how many long Covid patients ever bothered to wear a mask or get vaccinated when they became available. For nearly 3 years now we’ve been warned about this virus yet many haven’t taken the precautions necessary to keep themselves as healthy as possible given the health threat.

[@KatyatheBlack]

I have post viral fatigue of some sort. Yet to be diagnosed. It has been nearly 3 years. I am lucky if I work 1 day a week now. I had to take 9 months off entirely which led to becoming homeless after my lease ended. I went from middle class entrepreneur to homeless. I stayed in a abusive relationship because I didn’t have any option for support. I have been eeking bit by bit to regain a fraction of what my life used to be. Now I have a place to live again and I’m no longer in that relationship but I’m worried I will lose everything again, because my health has gotten worse for the last 7 months. For those of us with no spouse or family to fall back on, no disability to help, its no wonder 44% have considered suicide. I feel like I cannot logistically afford to live anymore. And is constant pain and fatigue really worth living for anyway?

[@arih_rih]

i’m so sorry. you deserve support and relief, and our govt and healthcare systems have failed you and many others. it’s absolutely cruel because it is a choice by the people in power to let the rest of us suffer and die. i hear you and thank you for sharing your story.

[@KatyatheBlack]

@@arih_rih aww thank you. Thank you for listening. I really appreciate it.

[@calibby85]

I am so sorry. More long covid than cancer I had no idea. I'm sending you love and healing and hoping that we can raise awareness about this so we can do something about this and get people like you the help they need. I hope there are at least some online support groups you can find. You are very strong for everything you have gotten through so far, bless you❤

[@armourofgod6310]

Are you taking the jab?

[@KatyatheBlack]

@@calibby85 🙏 thank you , I’m trying to find some online support groups now. I was looking within my own city but they don’t convene often enough so I’m about to expand my search to nationwide over zoom. I hope we all get help. I hope there’s going to be a medical breakthrough soon. Although social support is needed, like disability, I think we can all agree we would rather just be healthy.

[@Iceland874]

Long covid and now Trigeminal Neuralgia, constant ear infections, and ME/CFS and teeth breaking from the vaccine. Its a nightmare and I’m getting worse. I’m not fortunate to have a spouse to support me. Mountains of medical bills debt. It’s pure hell.

[@Magnulus76]

After COVID I had to start taking ginseng because I felt tired. I also learned about taking antihistamines to combat post-COVID headaches. Another thing that's helped is fasting. Long COVID seems to be related to post-viral sydromes in general, like ME/CFS.

[@irmaiz133]

Fasting really is the answer which they won't talk about because no monetary value or gain out of it.

[@Violet-qf8dr]

Cayenne pepper really helped me to finally feel better. Take 2 to 3 teaspoons in hot tea or lemon water. Add honey to make it easier to drink.

[@richardraymond9108]

Watch Mark Hyman MD. The link between autoimmune disease Chronic Fatigue, and hidden infections

[@kathleengivant-taylor2277]

I makes me wonder if long covid is some type of fibromyalgia or similar syndrome because I have had fibromyalgia since my late twenties not diagnosed til early thirties and the symptoms she describes is alot of the symptoms I have with fibromyalgia. My fibromyalgia affects my whole body. I have actually had covid twice once in 2020 and again recently a couple of months back and both of those times each made my fibromyalgia worse . So I wonder if there is connection?

[@andrewstrakele6815]

They are indeed related. Dr. Bruce Patterson has discovered specific Cytokines produce Neuroinflammation in the Brain, resulting in the various symptoms of Long COVID, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/ME, Fibromyalgia, and Lyme Disease. His group, InCellDX has developed a Diagnostic Procedure and is working on Treatment Protocols utilizing Cytokine Antagonists. Various prescription meds can also produce Fibromyalgia, Dementia, Depression, and Suicidal Ideation as side effects. It is important to review what meds you take with your Physician on a regular basis - immediately if you experience any of these symptoms.

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

Same here, I had Fibro for twenty years before I got COVID and then my symptoms got worse, I even lost vision in my left eye. Similar mechanism perhaps

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

@@andrewstrakele6815 interesting, I will look up this study. Of note, I was not taking any meds when I began developing Fibro symptoms, and I didn’t take any for about 15 years, so I’m not sure that’s true for everyone

[@andrewstrakele6815]

@@down-to-earth-mystery-school - It’s important to realize there is nothing in Medicine that is true for everyone. You may find Dr. Drew’s recent KZbin interview of Dr. Bruce Patterson and Dr. Yo of interest

[@Stereostupid]

I have been low energy ever since covid and worked for the state lost my job and been working with high energy since I was a kid and no doctor has ever suggested or mentioned long covid...but I definitely don't feel the same

[@SoraFan23]

My Aunt tested Positive for Covid-19 back in June 2020. She is doing fine and she has the vaccine and Booster, but she still experiences fatigue.

[@TH-eb5ro]

Hope she progresses.

[@rickyayy]

She has long covid

[@bobbobby2978]

That's from the vaccine. Not hard to figure that out

[@SoraFan23]

@@bobbobby2978 She told me she got the more recent Booster Shot that counters the recent Sub Variants of Omicron and thats why she felt so tired.

[@brentkinsworthy4999]

What's the percentage of people who were vaccinated that now have long covid?

[@cocopuff1015]

All of them is my guess

[@down-to-earth-mystery-school]

It makes me so angry when anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers bring this up as a gotcha, instead of actually having compassion for those who are suffering. It’s the same level of selfishness they brought to the entire pandemic situation…

[@Von199X]

Man I wish I can get back to my normal self 3 years ago, nowadays I have brain fog and always tired, just showering and doinf laundry man this sucks

[@kennethluddi8929]

That’s a good reason why the US should have universal health Care 👍

[@Maddawg31415]

Let’s assume the majority of Americans agreed with that sentiment (but not a plurality). How do you implement it? That is the greatest quagmire in all this. My opinion: you’d need a WWII level disaster in America to make such a shift

[@Prince9146]

i can understand the suicide part of it. As a retiered bodybuilder and strongman it have fucke up my life and i have lost alot of muscle strengt and life quality....

[@robertnewell4054]

I’ve lost 60 lbs of mostly muscle. I’m done to 175lbs/80kgs. It’s the lightest I’ve been in 35 years. I feel for you Brother. I feel like I’m disappearing

[@arih_rih]

i’m so sorry. i hope you can find support in navigating a new life. and i wish you self compassion 💗 losing something so important to your life is incredibly difficult. i’ve never been a body builder but ive heard that it takes a lot of mental strength to become so physically strong, so i imagine your strength is much bigger than your physical body. i hope you can make it thru all of this

[@seangill83]

I used to run marathons and was hoping to run my first ultra marathon this year. Instead I struggle to go up a flight of stairs. It will get better one day though, stay strong

[@Prince9146]

i hope so....chest pain, burning pain and numbness and tingling, vision problems, tinnitus.... all test are good. But i feel like a wrack...do i overdo it symptomes gets worse...praying dor healing, miracle and treatment. I hope a cure or treatment can be find soon..

[@MegaPapa8888]

I am an old guy. Till today I still wear mask going out. I know the consequence could be bad. Mask is part of my health insurance.

[@pandorasbox4238]

Disability has several layers of appeals. It seems like those who are faking get it easy, while those who aren't have issues.

[@nunyabidness3075]

This becomes an inevitable problem with government programs as well as with large charitable institutions like American Red Cross.

[@pandorasbox4238]

@@nunyabidness3075 I wouldn't say it's inevitable, I would just say that the cogs in the machine need tweaked. Things are out of balance by a fair ways.

[@thatonebeone]

border hoppers get it way easy.. no tax paying lol and if they get hurt they get free hospital and go back to border and come back again

[@mandisaw]

More like the default response is to reject claims, until you bring in a lawyer. We got "lucky" that my late hubby had a condition on the automatic-qualification list, but that's probably because folks in that state may not live through a standard yearslong disability fight. It's tragic, and ridiculous that the system is setup this way.

[@pandorasbox4238]

@@mandisaw I knew a lady that had developed a neurological disease so bad she could barely feed herself. It took her 11 years to get her disability. I also knew a guy that walked in and got his disability without a rejection over a 'bad back', though it wasn't so bad he couldn't ride a snowmobile, jet ski, atv, or climb ladders.

[@residentevil4life]

seems like long COVID is more of an issue pre vaccines? Either way this is a reminder of how terrifying COVID is and why despite everyone's insistance that its over I continue to wear my mask whenever I am in a tight crowded space.

[@bobbobby2978]

No, more of an issue after the vaccines. More of an issue after radiation poisoning.

[@mandisaw]

Some preliminary studies seem to point to higher viral load as a potential indicator of developing long Covid. Folks who get Covid after vaccination experience - typically - a lower viral load, milder case, etc so there may be some protection, leading to fewer cases among vaccinated ppl. But there are cases where vaccinated folks *still* got long Covid, so clearly there are more factors in play.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Most long term issues tend to be from those who have not received vaccines. Granted its still possible to get a long term if your vaccinated but its not as common and if you did it supposedly won't last as long as those who did not have the vaccine. So its best to have a vaccine, and if your not comfortable its good to have a mask with you just incase.

[@beewest5704]

I work at a health centre & we had patients with Long Covid's symptoms improve or even disaster having the vax & booster.

[@tommyboy7427]

according to an article i saw, being vaccinated reduces risk for long COVID by only 15%

[@gwilkins4617]

This is not a new phenomenon.. post viral syndrome had been around for decades.. one common example is developing chronic fatigue syndrome after mononucleosis

[@SS-yj2le]

Those are very rare. This is affecting as many as 1/3 people who get it even without any symptoms at all and has a 90% chance for some degree of brain damage if it is severe. The effects of such are also much more debilitating.

[@IDGAF56852]

My wife has long haul covid symptoms 1 year after getting covid. It has affected her taste,smell,and short term memory permanently.

[@smittys3069]

I'm sure it was caused by the vax

[@chukim8012]

I would give anything right now to RECEIVE DISABILITY HELP for my long covid. But theres no help coming from the US government at all!

[@SS-yj2le]

They don’t believe you have a problem. That is what happens when you let anti-scientists run the government. That includes Biden.

[@1bzymom.Of2Kids]

I can't find anyone in my area to treat long covid. I too feel that I'll probably die in the process of trying to get help

[@kylen4701]

If you ride it out brother it will slowly get better. It can take a year. Stay strong.

[@bumblebootwiddletoes5185]

Seek help any way you can... Even if you need to travel for it.

[@greggregory820]

Question: are those that get long covid... mostly vaccinated? mostly not vaccinated?

[@amies2113]

In the group I'm in the majority of members are from the original strain, 1 year before vaccines were created. A lot of long haulers are actually scared of them. Feb 2020 og here.

[@OthinNihon]

Mostly unvaccinated. A majority of the people that have been documented suffering from long covid caught it from before the vaccines were even available.

[@3orion33]

I had COVID when first acknowledged as existing, but later went ahead and got the Madera #1 shot. All was well, so had the second shot and haven't been ok ever sense. I have all the long COVID symptoms.

[@galeway1697]

Yes, that is how I feel.

[@zachfg970]

I used to work at Walmart, I got covid in 2021 and I haven't been able to recover, my taste and smell is distorted and I sleep up to 14-16 hours. I cough up white bubbly foam idk if anyone else does but I'm scared. I've mades jokes to my husband that I have "rabies" , I really think I'm going to die sooner than later. I just turned 27 this month. Also I've noticed that my body isn't producing enough body heat for me to be comfortable idk if that makes sense. My future is looking dimmer everyday

[@tazztazyy6782]

Nervous system damage at your own risk try NMN I fount it to work after a week and fresh oxygen if you can aka go for walks in woods where the air quality is better and your usual immune boosting foods.

[@lordsteppergod7269]

I had covid symptoms that lasted almost a month

[@traciepowell6315]

We have to trust God for our lives for our health and where our help comes from. Not in man who created this virus that caused this horrible thing onto us. I pray over my body and medications. Psalms 23 and 91 covers us.

[@djmcnerney]

I’m looking forward to CNBC’s in-depth report on the cost of mRna vaccine injuries. When will that be broadcast?

[@ahdkdjxnsns]

I got sick on October 17th It felt just like a cold but then i lost my voice then a couple days later it came back then it just kept feeling like a cold afterwards but all the sudden a weekish ago my memory started getting really bad like i couldnt remember what i asked someone after 15-20 mins and i have no energy at all now but the memory problems are getting better i think tho

[@spencerbrown6214]

All the jabs are creating long covid 😮