Why Macro Doesn't Matter In Korea... | Spear Shot

They weren't kidding when they said Korea doesn't have macro 💀
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[@SpearShot]

Do mechanics really make up for a lack of macro? The Korea Arc Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLC-63avwD5_aIDZtVa4MCWxEPQelKaddu

[@BlueBerry-ot4qb]

Nope

[@OrangeJuiceJones00]

Only in Korea apparently

[@JH-ef9hf]

that intro is a triumph, well done

[@enochzhen7133]

When their mechanics are good enough, they can't get punished for the lack of macro

[@quinngabrielquirubin3430]

​@@enochzhen7133probably because the majority of Korean players also have sht macro. So if everyone is sht at marco, the playing field is solely decided by mechanics

[@pearlsbubbletea576]

lets not forget that kaisa was busy doing jungle camps instead of ending in a master game

[@cephon6198]

The battle for red's buff will be remembered for ages to come

[@dankmemes8254]

The "yamikaze incident" all over again

[@walkelftexasranger]

@@dankmemes8254 No wonder KR broke his mental if everybody plays like that

[@dankmemes8254]

@@walkelftexasranger better yet how poly could have come from that server

[@cloud-wr1hs]

@@dankmemes8254 He mains Bard. That's enough reason.

[@Godalor]

12:38 "Let's not forget" is his summoner name xd

[@gersonjoc]

FR? HSHAHHAHAHSH

[@jtw10192]

@@gersonjocyep frfr 😂😂😂

[@TAHTAWYu64]

😂😂

[@plasmodius9449]

nah this is actually such gold XDD

[@SlyI42]

I was thinking the same 😂 didn't he copy paste part of the chat? The name is there too.

[@aptq9116]

This kinda makes it even more impressing that Baus got Challenger, one of the best macro players in the server that doesnt care about macro

[@evenjesuscantsaveyouanymor6163]

Not anything against Baus but his style made them get a 3v4 mid by forceing 1-2 ppl to match him nomater what and he wastes soo much time that the fight mid is over by the time they get back xD.

[@bhopstraining]

@@evenjesuscantsaveyouanymor6163 that's a compliment towards bauss though tbh if his style is pulling 2 people and allowing his team to fight in advantaged fights them its a W strat

[@evenjesuscantsaveyouanymor6163]

@@bhopstraining well not rly a complement as it shows that the server is just a bunch of meatheads that a suicidal toplaner somehow fit in to climb their ladder.

[@arkansky]

Baus' macro does not revolves around team play, he's a solo carry. It revolves around calculating what other players will do, allies and foes alike. I don't think it makes much of a difference which server he plays on past the adaptation time. I would even say he thrives in games where macro level is low

[@QueenTheCossackTongued]

​@@evenjesuscantsaveyouanymor6163EUW is also a bunch of meatheads

[@filipkotlaja8697]

"Tryna hold freezes are we? Why dont ya freeze these nuts in ya lips?" is my new favorite roast by this man. It just came out so smoothly

[@Imnotbalding]

He's got that UK wits

[@ckpn4771]

It's so funny that he keeps on saying that to Jax while Jax is lonely in the top lane XD

[@rk-li9ks]

11:44 I love how kaisa appears to end the game and instantly dies.

[@jaspervermeer659]

Average adc main

[@sadsongs7731]

@@jaspervermeer659 seriously why the role exists if melee champions out-range marksmen?

[@nynsho2326]

she came to auto the tower. she did her job :)

[@jacklau5529]

Came late to frontline

[@Cashboys]

At least she made Viego squishy when he transformed.

[@programix8432]

those high elo korean games look legit like bronze 4 games but with insane mechanics

[@jamesdeluxa9782]

I cant speak for EUW, but low diamond on NA used to have worse macro than gold/low plat. Mid plat to D3 was just split between good mechanics and half decent macro. Most games were RNG because you'd get the stupid guy who would throw his lead for forcing fights, when his team wasn't good enough to play off him. The contrast with "bronze" does make sense to me, the only difference is the higher MMR players have a general understanding of CDs or playing around enemy. Bronze players do not.

[@Itachi476]

very clean outplay at 9:11

[@RiceMan31]

😮

[@guynameallen5195]

like when the second plane outplayed the tower

[@Nakzii]

​@@guynameallen5195it was two towers actually, twins.

[@pixel_pirate7617]

"Holy smokes that was ugly" - Smear Snot

[@MihaiEminescuYT]

@@Nakzii the baus special

[@AMGKITTENZ]

0:30 this is like every argument in bronze ever xD

[@izjgxj4275]

Just that in bronze no one has either macro or mechanics

[@fantasticalthoughts]

Me arguing with my teammates (i'm bronze): 🫲🤓🫱

[@obiwancannoli1920]

I don't even know what mechanics or macro mean

[@JuanGarcia-tk7sg]

​@@obiwancannoli1920 Basically mechanics is about how well u play ur champion and how good u use it in a fight and macro refers to general knowledge of the game, like wave management, objectives or even tempo

[@izjgxj4275]

@@obiwancannoli1920 mechanics is the mastery of your champion, how good you are at dodging skillshots, hitting your own spells etc. Macro is the decision making as in avoiding a fight, pushing sidelanes, when to take waves, deciding to give or fight for objectives.

[@justindavis6406]

hearing a London lad say "mother fucker, dood" is way funnier than I expected

[@supermariolover20]

Let's not forget why are we here

[@filipkuzmicz8127]

Just to suffer

[@blackbloodcell5147]

Every night

[@agp4580]

I can feel my leg

[@justacoolname69420]

And my arm

[@YhelloWish]

Arrow in the knee

[@adriantulbure4833]

That google translate at the end 💀

[@keys2467]

let's not forget

[@izaacb550]

When he switches up to an american accent for the "MF dude"😂😂😂

[@jamiebruner8463]

Yeah I had to rewind lol

[@AcesPrune]

You just explained at the start, in just 30 seconds, what Tyler1 took a full month to understand xD

[@hagalathekido]

the part you described in the start is also how it is in low elo euw, you may be doing a game winning split and your team has to just wait for you to pressure sidelane and they go in 4v5 and die and ping you

[@W1ndyyyyyyyy]

the difference is low elo in general is 0 macro and 0 mechanics

[@omarkydevo6319]

Not just euw, na is the same

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

@@W1ndyyyyyyyy Low elo has great mechanics compared to what it used to be, though. In terms of raw champ mastery, many low elo players would be ranked surprisingly high. But zero macro and, more importantly, mistakes and misjudgements. They cannot punish mistakes well, dont see their own mistakes, misjudge situations all the time.. you can be the greatest mechanical god to ever exist and still be stuck in silver like that.

[@W1ndyyyyyyyy]

@@TheSorrowfulAngel I don't like disagreeing, so instead, I'll bring you a different perspective and add some points. 1. I am a Master player that started in S11, so I am not sure how good people were mechanically before. 2. Part of champ mastery is abusing weaknesses related to macro. If you don't understand how to position yourself in every single matchup, even though it's bad macro, it's also bad champ mastery - in other words, to a certain point, they do go hand-in-hand. 3. I include kiting, tethering/spacing and positioning as mechanical aspects of the game, and I can assure you that silver/gold players consistently lack these skills because of lack of champ understanding and threat assessment. Some play stupidly and int, some play overly safe and have 0 impact. Now, are some players able to execute Riven combos flawlessly in silver? Yes, but they very likely still lack some form of spacing, kiting or positioning.

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

@@W1ndyyyyyyyy I see, you arent wrong. Depends on how you define "mechanical skill". I'd say mechanical skill is about execution of your kit, hitting your stuff and whatnot. While the other things you describe are what I would describe broadly as "fundamental skills". Granted, kiting, which is more of a champ specific, mechanical skill is largely underdeveloped in lower elos. And champ mastery was the wrong term here, true. So yeah, I don't think we actually disagree here, just mincing words.

[@MohammadBas399]

I love you dad

[@campbellnoah52]

1 person doing the wrong thing is a mistake. The whole team doing the wrong thing is a strategy.

[@E_D___]

may be a bad strategy, but still a strategy

[@thechoripankiller]

I was thinking about this regarding lower ELOS. I think the kind of macro that wins you games is the one where you make the influence. A very obvious example is when you're playing a champ with good splitpush and enemy team decides to fight for Baron. You just go bot and make them choose what to do, try to fight it or come to stop you. Most times you win either way. The macro that doesn't work is the one when you expect your teammates to do something. Like when you freeze a wave top against something like a Nasus and your jungler decides to just never gank.

[@nothingisitchingme5874]

Not looking at wave states is plain autistic

[@thethinkingbox4022]

Yep pretty much. I split to diamond 2+ and after that I swap to mid to start affecting lanes more/not have to rely on a jungler to save me. Low elo is the wild west and you literally just have to pick a hypercarry and beat them into submission sometimes.

[@dylansmith6078]

Or when you are jungler and gank the nasus and you set up a freeze for your laner so you can regank and they ruin it by hard shoving because they got bored

[@dylansmith6078]

​@@thethinkingbox4022somtimes it is just about how influential the role is, I was a silver support for 4 seasons I said i had enough and went jg the most influential role in the game within 2 weeks I got to plat 2 i played support again because it is my favorite role and got to dimond 1, roles like adc and support are terrible to climb with in low elo because they rely so heavily on team mates where as you can play unga bunga mundo toplane and get easy wins just by stat checking the entire enemy team. Or do what I did and just play nocturn and ult adc and mid over and over till they ff. But if you are playing support (I main thresh) land your hook I garuntee that not only your adc will be autoing full hp minions but they will also never CLICK THAT F***KING LANTERN. set up a freeze for them? They will autopilot idle aa, go to clear a ward? They think they can 1v2 and die, ping jungler is comming? Sit in bush and not go to tower.

[@phuocminhluu2919]

That's also his point. The "best" macro in regards to what his team always doing, is to also follow their "unga bunga me smork" aram gameplay, while the enemy team also handshake and dive into you. They started that hardstuck loop for themselves even though it's nowhere near the best coordinated macro overall. This shit also leaks into pro plays handshake meta somehow.

[@impatientimp3292]

Spear's micro Is getting back to his old days level, love it

[@TraxisOnTheLines]

This is the only game I've ever seen of him, after hearing about him earlier this week. I'm convinced he's the official Pantheon one trick and I will trust all of his advice, he seems incredibly good at the champion.

[@valonzeneli4614]

Oi, "where do you think our Kaisa is" ENDED me loool

[@victorreis4884]

spear shot you said what ive been trying to say for a while. you are an intelligent man

[@jacobomariatrabadasanchezd5718]

that blitz-pike interaction was so interesting 11:20. They hooked each other at the same time + pike's e

[@dabasil]

That flash q in the start is vicious

[@glockfragz3251]

spear needs trafifc control sticks to guide his team to do the right play

[@skope2055]

Great video. +Rep for the editing and soundtrack choice.

[@tinyb0y251]

I swear on my life Spearshot is the most entertaining Pantheon One trick I know!

[@sammywong2074]

Lmao, both pyke and blitz pulled each other at 11:20

[@Kamishi845]

Let's hook each other into a hug.

[@manufan4-ever994]

Love your content man

[@seaweedbanana4663]

its so painful to watch that jax his enemy is on the other lane killing everyone while he’s not on top getting as mush gold as he can

[@daivion8493]

Bro. Been playin on this server for years, this is the truth. So well put haha

[@eruu7575]

this is literally a wild rift experience lmao, perma fight 0 macro

[@zakrow1635]

one must imagine spear shot happy

[@zakrow1635]

even if all we're here to do is suffer

[@loganwright296]

This is just the exact same thing in NA low elo. Most macro situations that would work in high elo just end up wasting xp, or getting you 3 man dove by an adc, mid, top, and rift herald.

[@miloshi1133]

I just love it when he mumbles between kills "yeeeee totatlyyyy designed chammmpion called pant god bless you"

[@barnabodicsi5926]

Spear shot: macro doesn’t matter in korea Babus: okay🤨

[@divandebruin5767]

Gotta love this man vids 😂

[@Steamgirled]

Let's not forget

[@fuzzwobble]

10:27 That might actually be the worst Rumble ultimate I've ever seen. Even firing one backwards gives an escape route. That ultimate is just in a wall pointlessly.

[@dom5g419]

These vids really make my day. Spear Snot for Prez

[@equilibrium9135]

Never seen him this serious. Korean server getting out all the potential :D

[@adsteller]

Ty this is good fun content!!!

[@malarapollus8127]

this spear shot dude is so chill tho

[@takumifujiwara300]

these dogs will skill check opponents die 2x then spam go next

[@JsJ1212]

I've learned that my golden rule of league is to make the play that everyone or most of the team agrees on, No matter how much you know or think you know that it is the right decision. If you're gonna split but your team expects you to group, you should strongly consider grouping. You win as a team and lose as a team.

[@seaweedbanana4663]

Baus said that he didn’t got better in korea, he just changed his play style for korea

[@boomknight1015]

Depends on elo. Low elo they often sturggle with insta winning a 3 on 5 unless your team lets them. I sat 4 on 5 because if I saw it's 4 on 5, I'd go to the other side lane if I had good push and ward on my way for safety. Most low elos mentally break when they see both side lanes getting pushed but 3 still wanting to int and put pressure. Often one is not enough to be a threat but both lanes getting pushed means that the 5 has to split or lose unless they can rush faster then the split pushers.

[@nfc14g]

Very interesting take, makes sense!

[@Lord.alucarD]

0:50 typical low elo toplane experience

[@Zenith07]

7:00 oh my i never thought about that

[@Princeboy4953]

So basically... it's low elo... but higher elo...

[@cristobalcares743]

Nah Google translate at the end took me out 💀GG Spear and Pucci

[@soydansogukcesme470]

the introduction that is how ELO-HELL works..

[@gastonlevickas9789]

13:06 i see a man of culture here

[@_arloredryad1342]

brother you saved me from being a shaco main and made me a pantheon main thank you

[@jsleamer2046]

"Let's not forget all those years (잊지말자 그세월) is the summoner name haha

[@Nao_SB]

I read Marco instead of Macro "Marco doesnt exist here💀"

[@itmeCLaD]

we shall not forget

[@generalkenobi2815]

BRO WHY ARE MEMES ABOUT LOW ELO BEING LIKE HIGH ELO SO ACCURATE HOLY SHIT

[@isaiahnewnum8808]

12:05 the NA "motherfucker dude" is gold

[@Carsa-is6vb]

This Kai'Sa is a Master player in Korea and I peaked Dia4 on EUW. That puts in perspective how dogshit I am at this game.

[@sevenbillionsyearsofbalanc1611]

Mechanics definitely carried tf out of that Kaisa

[@fitmotheyap]

Tbf EUW might as well be a seperate game, never have I ever loved a server more than this one, most of the time my teammates know what they're doing I have tried NA and used to mainly play on EUNE and EUNE is uh... sad compared to all regions, no macro no mechanics

[@lord3986]

Why are we here : to suffer

[@ssbmgosu4990]

Im kinda new to your content. The way you gap people is really similar to tf blade. Absolutely stomping in 1v1. Also great decision making. Jax paid the full prize for thinking he is smart and letting the wave slow push into him.

[@FowlPointOfView]

Why are we here chat? To watch some unreal Pantheon. Well played.

[@damonwalker5899]

anywhoos movin on

[@aureuskaioh7101]

dude ive been playing phase rush pantheon so much cos of how much fun it is to go in and out in less than 2 seconds with his burst but idk if itll work in later elos and against people who know how to play the game better, thoughts?

[@emilahmed9527]

prob not the worst, you just lose out on some damage/sustain you’d otherwise have with pta or conq. ig the argument is just: is the movement speed from phase rush worth it compared to those two

[@logancampbell3065]

@@emilahmed9527 imo definitely not, conq is disgusting on panth, yuo can easily get over 1500 healing in a game from it and god knows how much extra damage. PR is def not bad on panth but he basically already has it built in with his E

[@jujutherabbit8061]

bro I almost had a stroke reading the title I was like who tf is Marco and why are we flaming the brother

[@Jus7here]

So thats basically playing in silver/gold elo where your team is fighting non stop and you have to be glued to them if you want to win.

[@specialewok]

I'm sorry, but that "Why are we here?" moments reminded me of RVB so much, I really don't know why

[@maxx_xero]

Entertainment level : 11/10

[@juanpablocarabali9120]

Blood really said tomfoolery and nobody talks about it 💀

[@AMRsti93]

He described every single bronze match. Can't side lane cuz there's 4v5 mid over and over again and your team is losing over and over again

[@nobodysbusinezz]

Spear Shot is a funny guy

[@M1ch43l33]

"Hit the nexus, not the vlad"

[@fayge_fejes]

You have to try first strike Pantheon.

[@GOLD_FEVER]

11:20 Always wondered how that interaction went.

[@arvintob]

DoinB described the Chinese Super Server like that as well, people basically fighting all the time XD

[@memori2954]

"lets not forget. Why are we here?"

[@cex4383]

4:45 "FAKEUGH?? FAKEUGH??" I'm so sorry, I love british accent

[@user-iq9rj4le2f]

Lets not forget

[@skycleave4387]

bro just described euw gold at the start

[@DefinitelyNotSenku]

11:21 pyke blitz ?!

[@Pantheonik]

love you boss

[@licketicket8253]

DRINKING GAME: Take a shot anytime Spearshot says "Anywhos" its the best im only 7 minutes innngeragvbnraejgeroagkiar

[@lennyh801]

your glasses are YUUGE

[@saudalgamdi747]

What are the best tunes ?for panth

[@kristiankolozsvary5047]

wait hes already masters? didnt he just start? or was it a while ago? can someone explain to me pls!

[@IcarusLP]

These are good tips for low-mid elo NA as well tbh. You could be making the correct play, but losing the game doing so.

[@RikuHarada6996]

I mean there's a reason split pushing hasn't been meta in pro play for a long time now, because dragon objectives are broken and you have to contest it every time once your in the mid-late game. Even Fiora/Jax who are generally splitpushers are joining team fights, even though the correct play is to continue splitpushing.

[@pa5838]

I mean, then it's not the correct play anymore right?

[@emsax]

Wow this intelligent sexy cute pantheon player is doing really well in Korea and I cannot wait for him to be rank 1 :)

[@michalbabor3519]

As a yasuo main i have to agree with you pantheon is balanced BALANCED LIKE A STICK THAT HAS SHIT ON ONE SIDE AND A FART ON THE OTHER

[@gafroninja]

Intro statement sounds like gold and below in EU

[@minhdoanminh8747]

"fekar? fekar?"

[@robd3895]

Where do you think Kai’sia is 💀💀☠️😂

[@sandyins8826]

Well, it sounds like playing on KR masters+ is a fiesta like in my plat-emerald, kinda funny. But we also have the example of Agurin, who says absolutely the opposite: don't take useless trades, don't follow stupid moves/decisions of your temmates, fight only in 90% win chance teamfigths, ignore others(if they are fucked up), farm more, etc.

[@frey205]

Why are we here? "just to suffer" As a League of Legends Expert i can confirm this is 100% true.

[@kolo1364]

Once again, aram is proven to be the superior mode

[@tryharderpls]

*2v2 arenas because u are half of your team and have a bigger effect on winning / losing

[@v9idistic]

Fake beginner bots best mode

[@SafetyKitten]

@@v9idistic why did you just repeat what op said

[@jaspervermeer659]

@@tryharderpls As if anyone cares about winning in aram

[@MakeMoney-zh7uc]

Reminds me of EUNE,except on eune mechanics suck too xd

[@GD-mg5sw]

Can someone tell is the ult symbol when he Ulta animated or can you enable it in league

[@akhen0950]

edited in

[@TrampyPulsar]

Korea loves their teamfighting spectacle, even if its bad for the game.

[@hamzabelattar]

in Korea they don't play macro they predict your macro