Why Malenia is considered the HARDEST Boss in the Souls Franchise - ELDEN RING

[@gmorkins6006]

I'll never be convinced that that giant 3 hit spinning combo isn't a pile of of broken trash.

[@Ribsi]

Same

[@shawnmarcum8078]

She is a fucking whore and does not deserve any respect ever. She does not deserve to be in any top 10 list for best bosses.

[@gmorkins6006]

@@Ribsi finally beat her, Bloodhound Step made it manageable but it took my like 60+ tries, freaking nonsense.

[@Ribsi]

@@gmorkins6006 I beat her by abusing bleed and I feel no shame. I countered her bs mechanics with my bs mechanics and it still took me 45 tries. Fuck Malenia.

[@mike20pr]

That move is bullshit and that's a fact. Being dodgable in very specific circumstances and with razor thin execution doesn't mean it's fair

[@sideflipguy2097]

For waterfowl dance I’ve found two responses to work pretty well. If she starts it at a distance, run away from the first two attacks, then roll into the third and then back. If she starts it close in front of you, circle round her and dodge the first attack, she should miss, then roll into the second attack, and then roll into the third attack, then roll backwards. Good luck tarnished

[@spookytroy1801]

Sidestep and roll - Roll into the second - Crouch the third she will fly over you every time. No damage

[@goldenbrandon1716]

She only does it thrice throughout the fight and it really makes me wish for a deflect or a mist raven like mechanic

[@spookytroy1801]

@@goldenbrandon1716 She can do it more than 3 times per fight. RNG based

[@dressboy5]

I made use of the greatshield for the first flurry. I know she heals from it but the trade off was worth beating able to not get hit at and range. Then just dodge roll into her second one and simply walk forward a bit then back for the third. Sometimes I'd get tagged by the 3rd but most times unscathed.

[@nerdgasam6838]

This! The first time I did it was by pure accident and panic reflex she caught me at super close range and I had not time to doge away from her without getting nailed so I rolled in to her right side right as she launched the attack and kept circling to her right and rolling behind her back as close as you can be and managed to doge roll through all the bursts and disengage. Once I figured that out I would rush her as soon as she went airborne. the timing is super tight and you need to nail the rolls on each burst perfectly but it is definitely possible and a great feeling when she bust it out and its nothing but air. Tbf though she has nailed me with it about 40 time before I got the timing!!

[@mike20pr]

Nothing can convince me that Waterfowl Dance isn't bullshit. Being dodgable mostly based on RNG (if she doesn't do it while you are mid attack) and razor thin positioning doesn't mean it's good design

[@zanido9073]

her windup for waterfowl is several seconds, unless you're button mashing you have plenty of time to recover from your attack animation.

[@joshuaweston6531]

Agreed. Her ability to initiate it in a heartbeat means you're screwed if you're low on health or in the middle of an attack or popping a flask!

[@joshuaweston6531]

@@zanido9073 you absolutely do not have time. At least, for sure not if you're using a Greatsword...

[@zanido9073]

@@joshuaweston6531 Yes you do, I used a greatsword to kill her.

[@vaper8824]

@@zanido9073 Several seconds🤡 her start up for waterfowl is 1.5 seconds

[@jackalx2154]

She's fair if you ignore everything about her fight that is poorly designed and implemented. And then try and overcompensate for it in some way and then claim everything is fine. Poor design is poor design. Even if it can be done it really affected my enjoyment of the experience. Hopefully FS can learn from their mistakes for new projects cuz the innovations in ER have a lot of potential.

[@johnapple6646]

Why do ppl comments without watching the video?

[@abipepperoniplayz247]

bro i hope fromsoft make more fights like this, its the point of the souls genre

[@fridgeofdoom3839]

Hard disagree on that one. I went in blind, I had no expectations whatsoever, came out thinking she's one of the worst fights FromSoft ever subjected me to. Not only is she way harder than the rest of the game, which was pretty managable for the most part, but she's also hard for all the wrong reasons. Let's adress those reasons: One: RNG. This fight gets infinitely harder or easier depending on nothing but luck. As you yourself noticed, the Waterfowl Dance is WAY harder than any move she, or anyone in the game, has. And she can spam it. Oh boy can she spam it. And that's made even worse by Two: Poise. Malenia, when just hanging around, has almost no poise to speak of. Giving her a good whack with just about any weapon will make her flinch and therefore open for follow-ups. Except when she DOES have poise when she decides to wind up certain attacks, like the super-stab or the aforementioned Waterfowl. Therefore, when you try to, as you recommended, try to play aggressively, she might just jump up into the air once you try to hit her and give you the full wacky-woohoo-oneshot experience. Three: Animation cancelling. Did you notice she can do that? Probably not, according to your own words you couldn't even keep track of her summoned clones, so let me explain. Malenia can cancel her attacks. Not only that, she can also cancel her staggered state and straight up yeet out of your attacks in the middle of your combos. If you have especially bad luck, she'll follow up that dodge with her three hit swish-swoosh without delay, which consequently becomes almost unavoidable. Why can she do that? No idea, but probably because Miyazaki hates you. Four: Even more RNG. Did you notice that her combos are not consistent? You had to, you even show it in your video(7:57). That little follow up she did that killed you there? She doesn't do that all the time. Just sometimes. Why? See point three. And that's not the only attack she can do that with. Most of her "filler attacks", as you called them, can be chained into even more attacks, until RNG decides to give you one that you can actually attack her after. Excpet when you CAN'T do that because she decides to suddenly ignore your attacks and dash back out of them, as mentioned in Point two. It'll be enough to hit her ONCE, sure, but that doesn't seem to be ample reward for dodging what feels like the whole arsenal of a DmC-Player, does it. Then there is the healing, which is alreadly doubly frustrating when you get hit, and a hundredfold when you got hit becasue of something that by all means wasn't even your fault, she just cheap-shotted you with something like a literally unpredictable follow-up, or just basically cheating by changing the rules and dodging or attacking mid stagger. All of these things combined turned Malenia into one of the most frustrating and annoying fights I've ever had in any videogame, not just FromSoft's. You are incentivized to play aggressively, but that will sometimes punish you for basically no reason, forcing you to do what you said you should never do, run away , dodge and hope that she decides to do something you can SAFELY punish. You can also try to punish her when it isn't 100% safe, but that CAN get you killed, and that is what i'd call absolute horseshit design. A boss should always give the player an opportuniy to bring in their attack after avoiding the boss's, shouldn't it? But with Malenia, that's straight up not the case, wich makes the fight unfathomably more tedious than it should be. Alternatively, you can whip yout your Rivers of Blood+Mimic Tear and just tear her a new one, but that doesn't quite adress the actual issue, does it? The fight is clearly beatable, even easily so if you know what tools to bring, but that doesn't make it fair. And while that would be a great final sentiment, I also have to adress you poor taste, since it's basically half the video. Waifu Material? The bitch that nuked an entire continent because she didn't accept losing her ever so precious "undefeated" title, to her own brother no less, the bitch that literally spreads the plague wherever she goes, the bitch that is a half-rotted lump of flesh that will literally make your dick fall off? All the while presenting herself with flowers and butterflies as if she's something precious or beautiful, while in reality being the exact opposite, and fools like you actually fall for the honey trap. She makes the world a worse place by existing, is a horrible person and a terrible boss fight on top of that. Fuck Malenia.

[@ZSnoozeZ]

So I read the whole thing, and you do have some valid points. However, this was the most passive agressive thing I’ve read in a long time lol so I’m at a loss here on wether or not I want to give this any attention. I’m thankful for your feedback as it was insightful in a few ways, but maybe consider packaging it a little nicer:) Being called a fool for describing Malenia as “waifu material” is pretty hilarious :D I can see where you’re coming from tho:)

[@fridgeofdoom3839]

@@ZSnoozeZ Ah, what can I say when I get a response as nice as this? Yep, that comment emits strong salt energy, although you might have already noticed I'm not 100% serious. I mean, I still stand by the point that Malenia is not a good fight and that your endorsement and analysis wasn't very well thought out, but no hard feelings. Except against Malenia, fuck that bitch for real. On the other hand, if you ever feel the need to ignore the massive health hazard that originates from Scarlet Rot again, Millicent do be kinda bad tho...

[@LianleoC]

@@ZSnoozeZ I get they were being kinda mean but can you respond to like the first 5 paragraphs? That was all genuine criticism but you just completely ignored it because you didn't like their conclusion to their little essay.

[@nuggetpolice9116]

Also, your roll will change direction on the third flurry of her waterfowl combo and cause you to roll straight into where she lands if you have camera lock on

[@costelcosmincazan2321]

Relax. She is just a boss in a videogame. Also some people have beaten her without taking damage so no, she is not completely unfair. That attack is bs but it is still dodgeble. It requires some strategies to it but it can be done. Malenia is the hardest boss in the series but she is not unfair. People have defeated her two ways: learning every move she does and dodging perfectly or almost perfectly and kill her before she kills them or using summons or a special build that deals tons of damage to her. Now depends which one you wanna be. If you wanna be the first category then suck it up and learn the fight cause it can be done. As for me I am in the second category and I am ok to it. I am not as skilled as other players but I dont blame it on the boss. Seriously she is well designed and fair.

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

Yeah no. She's got unreacteable 50/50s. She's bullshit. She can animation cancel her recovery frames, dodge your punish and then punish your recovery frames. She can also just randomly decide to input read your attacks so she can counter with a kick. And obviously, everything to do with Waterfowl dance.

[@zanido9073]

everything about her is completely readable. Literally none of what you're describing ever happened to me in the 6 hours it took to beat her, and 95% of that was just figuring out waterfowl dance. Once I figured out how to dodge that I beat her in 1-2 tries.

[@thalesfreitas1361]

​@@zanido9073 how did you dodge waterfowl?

[@fuckinhateryan]

@@zanido9073i mean what he did say is true, some part is

[@Lescheres]

git gud

[@Lescheres]

@@thalesfreitas1361 when ur close, unlock onto her and spin around her it will send her flying away, then run away and dodge towards her for the last. when ur far just run away, and dodge into the last one again. the last and first are the hardest.

[@gerardoguerrero5614]

I’ve played all the past souls games and let me just say she was the only souls boss hell the only GAME BOSS in general that made my nose bleed from anger!

[@wheels5296]

So I beat Malenia and it took me around 4 hours as well, on my second try I made it to the second stage and died, it took me 2 hours to replicate what I had done, but I broke and asked for the help of Gold Summons, after 3 hours I had finally gotten to a part where every other try I'd get to the second stage. The last hour and a bit I was helped by summons and getting so close when I met a player called Neiro!! What a godsend, they had the dodges, they had the blood loss weapons and I was strength build stunning it was great we had her at the second stage and I panick dodged the blood loss dancing blades and got super lucky she only did that once. Finished her off using the Starscourge greatswords and meteorite ore blade!!! Let's go Neiro, big thanks, this boss is brutal, but with help, it's actually pretty fun to keep banging your head against the Malenia wall just to see what kind of characters you meet along the way!

[@thundr_monkey]

It's weird because I Sekiro is still from softs best game for me, but then again I've always thought the other souls games had boring combat, it's prob why I like Sekiro or BB to an extent more because they're faster combat games. Also prob why I like the Nioh franchise more as well

[@FrigidOven]

Yeah I agree. Sekiro was my first fromsoft game, trying Dark Souls after beating it, I just couldn’t get into it because of how slow the combat was. I pushed through when it came to elden ring though and eventually got used to it. Bloodborne is probably my second favorite in terms of combat though.

[@sh_i_ro]

sekiro and bloodborne are my favorite. love some ds combat but those two are so much more engaging and both give you a mechanic to get your revenge (rally system for bloodborne and death system for sekiro) in the dark souls games you just gotta take it.

[@patrickleblanc613]

Im the opposite (in a way). I prefer the souls games, 3 in particular although i still liked sekiro, but for me, the fact that you had to get really good with the parry system was a bit too much, i never really got good with repostes and parry/deflections in froms games

[@leonardfabian8942]

Same i recently went back to BB and Sekiro and beat em pretty fast but also had a ton of fun doing it, i guess the key word is fun, I've tried DS 2 and 3 even completed DS 3, but cant bring myself to complete DS or replay DS3 even though DS 3 speed is close to BB, i still find it slow and a bit clumsy, i didn't have much fun with it, and DS 2 is just a shit game i can see why People hate it that much.

[@victorprati7908]

What's weird for me is what this comment have to do with anything here

[@whatisbestinlife8112]

Disagree with this analysis. It was nothing to do with fearing her or being intimidated. It was everything to do with how cheap many of the attacks are and how this makes learning tedious and unfun. And how it's a heavily RNG fight. Which again just adds to the unfairness and tedium. She's only "hard" because of how cheap she is, imo. All the combo spam with heal on each hit is very arguably the cheapest designed artificial difficulty From has ever done. Along with all the basically one shots and the waterfowl dance (I think it's called) which is an RNG I win button for her. Basically, if she doesn't do that ability much or at all, you've got a still less than fair chance but at least a chance. If she decides to spam it you're basically fucked. If she does it when you're close to her you're basically fucked. If she does it when you're already in another animation you're basically fucked. Turns the fight into a huge RNG gamble which is just trash design. Add to that how difficult it can be to even see what she's doing in her second phase with all the effects and how her wings (which are visually beautiful) obscure her animations and it makes it that much harder just to see the reads (which are already blindingly quick). When I finally beat her there wasn't any sense of accomplishment or feeling I'd learned and overcome. Just was glad I was done having to experience the cheap and poorly designed encounter. And I knew it was a large portion of luck that in that particular attempt she hadn't done waterfowl dance much and I'd gotten lucky in randomly rolling through it enough to not outright die. She's a really disappointingly cheap boss. But that's true of a lot of the latter half of bosses in ER. The game starts strong and is good for about the first quarter. Then it starts faltering with cheap designs of spam melee combos, AoE spam, multiple gank fights with bosses that weren't designed to work together fairly or well, and a ton of input reading and tracking from the bosses. The second half of ER is a major disappointment in boss design. And Malenia is the distillation of the bad/cheap design. All that on top of the increasing repetition of bosses and assets that make the open world feel bloated and boring after about the first 1/3 to 1/2. Same towers, shacks, wolves, birds, graves, bosses on and on and on. ER has some great highs. But it also has a multitude of lowest lows of the entire Soulsbornekiro franchise. And those lows mount in number as the game goes on.

[@Gay_Charlie]

Yeah I agree. I feel no motivation in fighting her because she doesn't feel rewarding to battle.

[@zanido9073]

disagree, she was definitely the most rewarding boss of the entire game. her entire fight felt like such a skill matchup, almost like an actual duel. Waterfowl was a bit difficult but once you figure out how to dodge it it's super satisfying.

[@DM-Oz]

@@zanido9073 She is absolute bullshit

[@zanido9073]

@@DM-Oz git gud

[@DM-Oz]

@@zanido9073 go lick her toes somewhere else simp

[@claudiomontufar4180]

This boss is just the cheesiest boss ever with a good art desing, even the lore let u know that, had killed her with blood but I died earlier, 4 hours, 60 hours its just pure luck, Im not the best player but I have beat most souls games, I applaude fromsoftware vision, but this sht its just a trow out like " elden ring is the most accesible game, lets throw a boss that can kill u when she wants" this boss downgraded my thinking of being the best game ever made just because I got the frenzzy or that shiit on my first playtrough even reading all the items lore so its not a good boss, not rewarding at all

[@zanido9073]

funnest boss by far, felt like an actual duel, super cool. waterfowl felt like a little bs at first but super satisfying once you get the dodge down

[@Malachi-Rhodes]

@@zanido9073 Na this is the worst boss in the game for me by far. No other boss even comes close.

[@dane3956]

I used to think she was fair. I can consistently deal with waterfowl dance even at point blank by blocking the first flurry, and can quickly and easily get her health back down while taking negligable damage, so that isn't the issue for me. I do play on mouse and keyboard, but that ain't it either. I beat the game normally with it. The boss reads your inputs (sometimes), spams moves that would be easily counterable if she were in Sekiro like her AI was designed to be in, can apparently cancel out of her stagger animations, and inconsistently flies in the air during openings in her second phase, so you have no idea of knowing wether to punish her or not. I'm not as good at some at this game, but after about a week of trying to fight her to no avail, and with all these flaws apparent, I've concluded she ain't worth my time. That being said, she's somehow better than Godskin Duo.

[@FemboyVegeta]

Everyone seems to have an issue with godskin duo I first tried them and not only is this my first souls game, I pretty much suck at it as well

[@santana8022]

LMAO fromdrones on copium

[@wodandelaat1224]

@@FemboyVegeta they were changed, on release they were insanely difficult

[@MinertaurusLPs]

Souls-like players who use keyboard and mouse are on another level of masochism. I mean we torture ourselves for fun anyways with these games, but this is just madness.

[@victorprati7908]

iF sHe WerE iN sEkIrO LiKe hEr AI wAs dESigNed tO bE iN

[@oliverfrench2847]

i love fighting malenia with a frost magic build. feels fun, fair, challenging and it’s beautiful to see my blue spells contrast to her scarlet rot aeonia spell

[@nanogamer4546]

Bloody Crow of Cainhurst is the hardest Soulsborne boss for me. Insane damage and health pool, high mobility, unlimited ammo, and exact move set as you, a hunter. Felt damn good beating that thing.

[@Ribsi]

Even worse than the Orphan or Laurence? I actually never fought the crow but I heard she's really difficult.

[@tmbfreak_16]

Oh God, his repeating pistol did SO MUCH DAMAGE

[@kinoman4875]

@@tmbfreak_16 1/2 shot pistol, hunter’s bone, chikage that did a fuck-off huge amount of damage and barely any openings because he has the plauers moveset. This man is harder than malenia no cap

[@Ann1ka2425]

Nah, the Bloody Crow is pretty easy. Fighting Simon was much worse.

[@Karma-be5oc]

i fought crow once on a level 40 or so hunter. one of the hardest fights i did. i was also playing drunkborne, taking a shot every time i died xD. i think i have the recording on my channel, only game audio though. it was one of the more epic fights ive had

[@shanegrayson7068]

Doing just a two handed greatsword build with no bleed or crazy mimic tear or any kinda of "strat" just going in and dodging attacks and hitting... and this fight is an absolute nightmare.

[@notgaphafn4614]

The wombo combo is why I've been stuck on this boss for about 3 days now. I only really properly played the first day but still, it's insane how hard her wombo combo is to dodge close range. It might be because I'm on mouse and keyboard but it's the only attack of hers I haven't learnt to dodge with except for the running away strategy, and since the tarnished is too slow I find it fun to parry and it feels likes I'm attacking while defending. So I'm basically forcing myself to learn to dodge her attack on med roll. Which is easier said than done, learning all her other attacks and becoming quite good at dodging and now even parrying them does not save me from waterfowl still.

[@luciadelacroix9800]

Try her a couple of time with my sword and board build, nearly impossibile to fight for me. I'm no pro at all, I play just to enjoy something good and well made but... Then I just switch to River of Blood and send her into the Oblivion in 48 sec, including the cutscenes. My time is way more valuable than some mutilated redhead with serious eczema (and probably scurvy). If she is too much remember, it's just a game, use River of Blood with Mimic +10 and send her where she belong: the trashcan :)

[@varski76]

Yeah hard fight turns pretty much into a joke when you take the katana out. Its crazy how broken the weapon is when you turn Malenia into a cake walk that everybody can pretty much do.

[@SauceSNTNA]

Yeah some of us don’t want a cheesed dual where I’m the one using unfair shit tho

[@gmorkins6006]

The most "gitgud" I could go was moonveil+10 and Bloodhound's Step, after about 60 tries I've finally done it.

[@skrotosd]

Next time try spamming rivers of blood, I made the entire fight without even rolling

[@AzureTheAvian]

Blasphemous Blade. Taker’s Flames knocks her down every time. Other than that, she’s pretty easy to stagger with big weapons.

[@OzixiThrill]

@@AzureTheAvian If only staggering her meant anything more than her just canceling her own stagger animation...

[@AzureTheAvian]

@@OzixiThrill You right. Just looked more into her and learned she could do that. That’s just bullshit. I just kept her knocked over most of the fight with Taker’s Flames, but anyone trying to fight her fairly doesn’t have fun. I don’t feel bad about cheesing her now.

[@uchihajunior5648]

I've also have beaten milenia, no summons, melee only, but there is some bullshit, and not only waterfall dance: 1: stagger cancel: she can sometimes cancel stagger animations, so with some slower weapons, she can punish you for hiting her, it's totaly random when it happens, but when she do it's annoying, the solution, pick a fast weapon, sadly no colossal weapon here. 2: her hyper armors prevent posture breake, normaly when you do enough posture damege to breake an enemy's posture, no metter the hyper armor or infinite poise they have, they'll be posture broken, but not milenia, if she's in hyper armor she can't be posture broken, the only thing that can breake her hyper armor is either bleed or frostbite, she is the only enemy in the game with this kind of hyper armor, so if you try to go for a posture breake with a slow weapon, be it a strong attack or jumping attack, if she decides to do a hyper armor move, she'll avoid posture breake and punish you, another issue wich the only solution is picking a fast weapon, basicaly this fight is unfair mainly against colossal weapons. 3: waterfall dance: everyone knows this one right now, sometimes you try to bait it and never comes out and only whe she gets close she do it, and then it's gg, the only consistent way to avoid it point blank is bloodhound step torward her on the first hit, no attack should force you to have bloodhound step just in case you're in a bad spot when the enemy do it, and i think that if the game didn'thave 30 frames of input delay for character's actions then running from it point blank wouldn't be that bad, but that's not the case, the solution would be to either make the move slower so you cold run away even from point blank or fix the input lag.

[@bruceleeroy8680]

I perfectly dodged her waterfowl dance once and couldnt do it again after that. Still beat her tho was worth for the wep since I made a main dex build and faith and arcane as my subs

[@slamjam7676]

I've found that you can Bait out waterfowl with throwing daggers And she becomes docile after backing off in phase 1 In phase 2 your best option is just to run she will chase your ass down Radagon is way harder being able to spam 20 attacks in a row with gap closing combos into aoes and input reading delayed aoe lightning bolts

[@Lex_6]

I wouldn't say having to abandon your build if it's a defensive one is "getting good at the game", malenia is basically a boss that forces you to be agressive which is cool in sekiro or even bloodborne since you're always supposed to, but in elden ring blocking is also a valid option all the way through the game, until this fight. She just shits on it, using a bs lifesteal without even dealing damages ; I wouldn't call that "well designed". Other than that and waterfowl danse, yeah she's good. She's does a bit too much damages tho imo but the entire area does.

[@zanido9073]

you might have a point if "builds" were something you had to dedicate a ton of resources into, but you can literally just take off your shield and 2h your weapon. Or just straight up swap to a different weapon that shares your main scaling. Or power stance and destroy her because she has 0 poise. And if you use a greatshield with enchant shield you're literally immune to her.

[@agoodboy7045]

malenia is not so difficult, she's just a cheater. she brokes the rules of the game and this is not a good example of good boss design

[@SwiftD6]

Malenia is more unfair than hard. and that's the first time I've ever said a from soft boss was unfair.

[@zanido9073]

waterfowl might be a bit too hard, but everything else in her fight is awesome.

[@captzachevil]

I'll just say that I had a paticular melee build that I never really had much trouble with throughout the game. When I reached Malenia I had to alter that build specifically to beat her. I think that says it all regarding how 'fair' her design is. You don't overcome her... you outcheat/outcheese her.

[@nabsthegodgamer5419]

Switching builds is part of the game, not cheesing in any way

[@vanity1602]

​@@nabsthegodgamer5419if you need to change your whole build in a game...that game has problems

[@nabsthegodgamer5419]

@@vanity1602 that depends on how the game is structured. It’s only natural that certain builds are stronger than others depending on the opponent, but when the game has an open world which rewards exploration with different equipment, while also making the ability to change builds super accessible, it’s only natural to assume that it wants you to experiment with it and adapt. It’s another layer of strategy that makes the combat and the open world come together. But it’s up to you. The game doesn’t force you, there’s always the good ol gitting gud option.

[@talonraker1140]

​@@vanity1602are Rykard and Yhorm also bullshit for making you equip a different weapon?

[@petwisk2012]

She moves like a Kingdom Hearts Boss(Sephiroth or Xemnas), in a Souls game where This kind of movement Speed is not Very Common

[@carnasondrakith2553]

I'm trying to do a no summons (save for silly pot throwing guy for fun sometimes) colossal greatsword build and i've gotta say, the end lag on my weapon causes one massive problem. That problem is that if i play aggressively i lose a lot of stamina doing attacks, and when i punish some of her moves she will frequently counter with waterfowl dance and i will have zero time to dodge because im still in my end lag (from a heavy jumping attack) for the entire windup and than when the windup ends i have time to roll, which doesnt work and thus i take a shit ton of damage and lose most of my progress.

[@cutemqker]

Many people say that Malenia only uses her waterflow dance twice in one phase, but when I fought her, she could even use it up to 4 times. I don't know if it was made more difficult for me or what, but this is not fair.

[@johnmorris1009]

I haven't got to her boss fight in the game yet, but I've watched videos of people fighting her and she looks insanely difficult. The second stage looks especially crazy. All of the moves she had in the first stage, but with several new one hit kills.

[@Lescheres]

waterfowl is literally her easiest attack, run away, roll into the last. or if ur close just spin around her and she will bug out and fly off of you for the first, then dodge into the last two.

[@AzureTheAvian]

Honestly, the only strategy I learned from her is to stunlock her as long as I can and hope RNG doesn’t kill me. She’s bullshit, plain and simple. I killed her in six tries, but only because I kept knocking her down and knew how to dodge her dive bomb move. But the fact that a boss has two different combos that can instakill you is just terrible boss design. Love Elden Ring, but goddamn are the late game bosses some bullshit.

[@Glesgacelts]

I beat her second try, had the luckiest RNG ever, she barely did the lengthy attacks. Was so lucky but I feel like I cheated the game, I have seen countless videos of how incredibly hard she is. Playing NG+ now to without a doubt meet my doom second time round. Luck will surely run out

[@nobody7277]

i recommend fighting her offensive because she gets stunned

[@boglurker2043]

If you do too much damage too quickly it's guaranteed that she'll use waterfowl.

[@M0th180]

10+ hours in for fighting her and it’s an absolute nightmare with colossal weapons -_-

[@zanido9073]

colossal might be a bit slow, but you can probably get like 2-3 poise breaks per phase with them so it kinda balances out.

[@hunopipo]

Elden Ring is my first soul game, but I loved it so much I got really into it and I decided to do Malenia without taking any hits and only with one katana. And by doing this I found a way to reliably dodge the wombo combo without taking any hits. When she jumps in the air, run at the opposite direction as fast as you can, you'll escape the first part. At the second part, roll on her left side to dodge it too then you have to frame perfect roll two times on the opposite side again to dodge the last part. If you get the timing, this ability won't scare you anymore for the rest of the fight. I hope that it helped!

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

You can literally just run diagonally away from her and roll dodge the last two hits (the clone thrust and her own thrust).

[@swissidol8403]

That’s what I’ve been doing too, and obviously congrats on getting the No Hit on this bitch. The problem is that with my curved greatswords she can rev up the move *in response* to being hit, meaning that she’ll start it while I’m at point blank range. There isn’t a reliable way to dodge it as far as normal techniques are considered.

[@zanido9073]

if you're within like 2 character lengths from her you absolutely cannot outrun her first dash barring certain ashes of war.

[@Panzerfaust-ux8xb]

Only way I found that almost always works is getting as far away as possible and running back for the first 2 group of attacks, then dodging diagonally to her right and dodging back 2 times to redirect the 3rd. No idea how to completely evade it close range tho. Sometimes removing lock helps because she flies all around you and you could end up rolling in the danger zone. What annoys me even more is that bullsht very fast 5 hit combo when she cranks her prosthetic and proceeds to swing very rapidly because she can do it thrice in a row... it has a rapid 4th hit that can catch you very easily right after you roll and if you're close enough the combo can oneshot you.

[@Bam_1776]

The clones move isn't so bad if you guard it and dodge the last hit instead of trying to dodge the whole move

[@allandm]

I think they designed the bosses expecting you to use the mimic

[@joshuaweston6531]

Perhaps, but some of us are too proud to use spirit ashes. I haven't used one for even a single boss, and I'm coming up on the ashen capital. This isn't to brag, but to point out that it leaves us stubborn ones against an arguably unfair 1v1 enemy...just my thoughts...

[@allandm]

I agree with you tbh, it's a lot more fun to fight them solo. But with some bosses it feels so unfair that it's not even fun anymore. I only used ashes on Melania, Malekith and Godskin due. As they were standout annoying. The others were still pretty annoying though, idk. In ds3 they were pretty fun to learn and fight, in Elden Ring you are mostly waiting for them to do that one move you know you can punish.

[@fearlessbros3620]

Waterfowl flurry is an attack that gave me a lot of issues. My strat was take off all my armor at the start of the fight and equip a charm that raises damage taken by 30% but gives more I frames. “Why where armor when your not planning on getting hit.” When you see the wind up use ur light roll and dodge back 3-4 times depending on if your medium to far range. When she jumps toward you for the second part of the combo roll through her once. Stay locked on and walk towards her, when she dives over your head walk backwards as the camera turns towards her and u will dodge it perfectly. If she pops this move right on top of you in my experience you are basically fucked. I promise you will get it and win the fight it took me awhile but I finally did it and now I slumber.

[@hakimonn]

Alright even tho i still had fairly negative criticism when i wrote this comment first, after fighting her multiple playthroughs, i'm convinced Malenia is definitely the most BS design in the entire Fromsoft history. So it's time to edit this because; Yes. She is hard. She is definitely the hardest Boss in the entire franchise. But for all the wrong reasons. Her entire moveset and even her lifesteal(to some extent) is not that hard to deal. Until she does Waterfowl Dance which is probably designed by some drunk intern at 3 AM. This is the most unfair and cheap move i've ever seen in any Souls game. Simply by the fact that it has no developer intended dodge method. Even tho you can dodge the 2nd and 3rd flurry, you can't roll dodge the 1st one. It's physically impossible to dodge the 1st flurry by using the core mechanics of the game. And before some salty random starts to rush on their keyboards; Bloodhound Step: Not a good argument at all. A secret field boss drop that shouldn't be expected to picked up by everyone. Even tho you would say "Well it promotes exploring.", it does not promote it. It forces it. There is a difference. Greatshield: Well technically you avoid the damage, it's still not dodging since she heals herself. Run away from her for the 1st flurry and roll the 2nd and 3rd: Not gonna happen when she does it up close. The windup is too short. RNG: The only way to tell the move is her being under %75-65 HP. She can spam it whenever she wants at that point regardless of your position. Spinning around her: An unrealistic approach and unreasonable for the average player to figure out themselves yet alone to be able to do it. And again, not an intended method. People need to understand just because there are ways to survive or "dodge" this move or you can just beat her, doesn't make it a good design. *HOW* you dodge is the important part. The 1st flurry is clearly designed for you to survive. You are just expected to tank it. I loved it when Bosses were hard but also fair. That's what made this series unique to me. TL;DR: Malenia is unfair because she has that one move that does not have an intended method and a reasonable way to dodge it. Which makes the fight boring, revolving around one single move and not rewarding at all.

[@stigmuri7766]

I think you are spot on. The boss would have been good and hard enough without the waterfowl or with something else. The waterfowl flurry is extremely unintuitive to dodge and blocking makes her regen health. I have successfully been able to dodge this move without being hit if I can bait it out of her but if it happens while I'm going in for an attack it's either instant death or I get to block (if I have enough stamina). This makes the whole fight pretty much be about dealing with this one move and it's not fun. A souls-game boss should not mostly rely on luck.

[@Ribsi]

Honestly she is like a mixture of Sister Friede and Lady Maria but a bad one at that.

[@hakimonn]

@@stigmuri7766 Saddest thing is, this could've been a really fun fight. The soundtrack, her visual design, the transition to 2nd phase... Unfortunately; just like we both mentioned, the entire fight revolves around one move that is so counterintuitive to dodge.

[@hakimonn]

@@Ribsi Exactly. Like she could still be the hardest while maintaining the "fair" aspect. Instead here we have a hard boss design just for the sake of being hard.

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

@@stigmuri7766 Nah. Literally just remove Waterfowl. She already gets an ultimate move in phase 2, with the Flower Clone combo. She doesn't need two ultimate moves.

[@elementallobsterx]

People who fought KH2 data bosses:😁🤘

[@touhouguyII]

Mimic ash + Bloodhound Fang 20 + Frost Grease = You're Welcome

[@darioconda3389]

this guy deserves more subs

[@Novasx2216]

She isnt, phantoms are a game mechanic. You are not playing Darksouls. Its like playing skyrim on legendary as an archer and only using the weakest arrowtype complaining the game is too hard. The only people still complaining about the boss are people who think Phantoms are not a legit part of the game, and some kind of mod or addon.

[@fearlessbros3620]

I’ve played DS1 DS3 and Sekiro and I beat them all. Melania is by far the hardest I have ever faced. I’m so happy I beat her without summoning another person to help me

[@bigboar0074]

I have a friend who killed her with like 20 or 30 tries. He is not a human

[@davidwelker325]

Best way to deal with waterfowl dance, just throw a freezing pot when she jumps. Instantly staggers causing frostbite and then bam no more waterfowl.

[@AarenDecker-z5t]

This fight got to the point where i could flawlessly dodge every attack but waterfowl killed me every time, the only time i beat her is when she only used waterfowl once and it was from a distance. Very much the only reason she is harder than Isshin for me

[@weaselly_moment]

0:59 cue laugh track. theres no way that anyone would actually believe this.

[@Sound_Escapism]

Literally if she had like a 5 more seconds to the wind up of waterfowl dance I’d put this boss in higher regard

[@TikeyBoss]

Nice content bro, truly quality content

[@ZSnoozeZ]

Thank you mate, that means a lot!:)

[@boydstallings6004]

8:01 "attack" of the clones. You had one job...

[@lukefrost6907]

Fun fact: his channel picture at the time of posting is the 'mind blast' ability in the game 'world of warcraft'

[@ghostx2384]

I’m terrible at souls like games and I beat her on my 6th attempt, I used a mimic tear (so didn’t do it right?) but I didn’t think she was insanely difficult

[@davidweaver1727]

The problem with her is that on top of her bs, she's a very late game boss, meaning lots of hp and dmg. The margin for error is so low. She has high mobility, decent bulk, multiple ways to one-shot you depending on you build, a second phase, a teleporting blender attack, a nuke, and a status affliction. She has some weaknesses that you can exploit, yes, but fighting her feels inconsistent. A lot of her kit is fair on its own, but when combined it's hell. And even you admit her waterfowl move is just wtf.

[@MadAlienArt]

I killed her in the mouse and keyboard with a greatsword pre buff so... try me

[@ZSnoozeZ]

Hats off to you then fellow tarnished!

[@kayksantos6220]

This fight could've been fun if waterfowl didnt exist it took 67 attempts in which this broken ass move killed me more than 50 times

[@dd9530]

For me mohg was so much harder it took me 4 hours but melania took 20 minutes

[@jayy6837]

I was whooping her ass up close got her down to one hit in the second phase nd she combo’d out of a stagger to the damn bloom flower…it caught me off guard

[@paulgilson2347]

I've beaten every other single boss in the base game, all secret ones etc but I'll never be able to beat her. Just gonna live with it, not worth getting stressed over a computer game.

[@Samuel-sg2iv]

Bro it took me 18 HOURS to beat malenia. And this man said it just took him 4 hours. Bruh it took me 4 hours to beat tree sentinel.

[@burlong01]

Literally remove waterfowl and she's fair, maybe even easy.

[@GabrielBercea]

Lol. I've beaten her my first time in under an hour, and completed my RL1 run, just the other week and I still think she's trash. It hurts because she's actually close to being a great boss, ut there's just too much BS, not just a little sprinkled on top.

[@PersnapsPartDeux]

Honestly she’s just an uninspired and bullshit boss. Everybody saying she’s fromsoftware best boss is just going crazy because she’s an anime swordswoman with a death by a thousand cuts bullshit insta kill move. Other wise she kinda just hyperarmor through your staggers and insta counters/blocks your attacks. Level of design doesn’t even fucking compare to something like nameless. Even just from a spectacle standpoint nameless fucking obliterates her. God of lightning wielding a great sword attached to a spear riding a legendary stormdrake all taking place upon a stormy mountaintop vs anime swordswoman in a cave with pretty flowers. Also nameless just feels better to fight. You actually get openings if you dodge his albeit very punishing attacks.

[@Hidden_lvl]

The majority of Bloodborne was uninspired and people just rolled with it.

[@zanido9073]

she can't counter or block, what are you talking about? Sometimes she can hyper armor on her grab or her leap attack, her grab is only if you're too slow, and her leap attack you can just wait until she commits to it or not. I usually just ended up eating her leap slash because it would only come out some of the time and I usually got more damage out just trying to stagger her out of her comboes.

[@PersnapsPartDeux]

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[@PersnapsPartDeux]

@@Hidden_lvl don’t really understand that one chief. Bloodborne had stuff like Ludwig, Amygdala, Ebrietas, Vicar Amelia, and quite a few more bosses that were interesting in design and mechanics.

[@Hidden_lvl]

@@PersnapsPartDeux Typical kaiju and anime stuff.

[@davedzone]

By the time I got to take her on, I was level 160 with a Mimic Tear, 2 Great Stars+25, one with Prayerful Strike. It wasn't hard actually, I did her in like 6 tries. I was stuck on the Fire Giant for 6 months. The godskin duo or even the Godskin dude at the bottom of the tower in Caelid seemed harder. Maybe it was the set up and higher level, but it wasn't that bad. I'm not good by any stretch of imagination.

[@malsocio]

waterfowl killed all the fun for me in this fight, even after i learned more or less how to dodge it.

[@Vyridians]

I beat her in 12 tries with a uchigatana and bloodhounds step in 1.0.0 but man I was stuck on Godfrey for 15 hours. It doesn't make sense

[@Mr.Icecream]

Malenia , is not hard , she is a punishing boss , as soon as u go closer waterfowl , magic spells , dodged , maintain ur distance . For these small mistakes , she punishes u more than any other boss in the base game . However people when complaint abt Waterfowl dance spamming , again it is so easy to dodge , most time people panic instead of examining the pattern of flurries it becomes so easier to dodge then . Also can use Frost pot, however people go crazy on lifesteal even u survived the flurries , her HP , its like back to square one , but thts actually part the lore , Malenia's spirit endurance makes her to make his spirit clones to fight , which also gives her u can say EXTRA LIFE to prevent rot frm more damaging her body than ever .

[@Spectrumix]

i'm not there yet, but i do expect pain and suffering non the less. very nice video too

[@ZSnoozeZ]

Pain and suffering is well put:’) it’s still gonna be fun tho I reckon!

[@ExtraHecticana]

theres not a RELIABLE way to deal with waterfoul dance without a shield or bloodhound step. even the no-hit speedrunners use shields or have to try several times to get lucky that she uses it far enough away that they can run away

[@AbsoluteNoah]

If you throw a frozen pot while she is in the air it stops the attack all together

[@camila_costa12]

I had to use a shield to counter it, during her first phase was manageable but in her second where she also applies scarlet rot was nightmare, i was constantly dieing because of the scarlet rot until I decided to use some scarlet rot bolluses to remove the status effect. It worked pretty well.

[@camila_costa12]

@@AbsoluteNoah didn't know that

[@zanido9073]

wrong. You can dodge through her first dash only taking 1-2 hits, and you can 100% dodge her 2nd and 3rd dash every time. It takes some practice but it's not that bad.

[@ExtraHecticana]

@@zanido9073 i don't want to get get hit 1-2 times. How weird that you would say "wrong" and then immediately say "you get hit 1-2 times". Lol

[@mattsherman4964]

I think she’d be fair if she had either waterfowl OR life steal, not both. Sure both are BS but I can handle one or the other but both in a single fight is too much

[@id1550]

It’s the hardest for all the wrong reasons

[@gonzalomendez4623]

Man…I didn’t realize Melania was disliked this much 😅 she was my personal favorite in the game despite her challenge in my opinion.

[@victorprati7908]

My dude got best and funniest take on Malenia (blade of Miquella btw) and I completely agree with you she is such an amazing boss once you stop whining on twitter/youtube about her or something and embrace your "gigachad gamer atitude" Very cool presentation loved it 👌

[@zackstone1840]

I always poise broke her before she'd get into water fowl, bleed and frostbite would always stagger her too, dual wield with frostbite, bleed, and a fire weapon to reset frostbite makes this fight much easier.

[@hollygonie2766]

Great video bro!!!

[@ZSnoozeZ]

Very much appreciated!:)

[@TheRealVyke]

No she isn’t hard waterfowl dance and life seal are hard

[@palkia1416]

Tried for a few hours but the second face got me every time so I said fuck it, let's use the mimic and finally I could beat her

[@milanmilacic9311]

The fear factor is very real, however even if it wasn't she'd still be the most difficult boss because she has an attack that's basically undodgable, you've said yourself that when you beat her she only used it once during the second phase, whereas the amount of time a boss uses a certain attack shouldn't significantly (in theory probably at all) affect your chances of beating the boss I've seen a video of a guy who claims that Malenia is unfair because she can chose to cancel out of a stagger animation, but that video misses the point by miles because you're dying to her because she has an attack that you basically can't dodge that deals loads of damage Without waterfowl she's basically a somewhat easy enjoyable fight, which is kind of sad and makes it a bit of a gimmick fight

[@GoldenEagle0823]

I love how still, you REALLY can tell who was a Souls vet or not coming into Elden Ring. Cause lets all be honest people, Melania, yeah she’s difficult and certainly a challenge, but I rank her to be just as difficult as Sister Friede. No boss…EVER, has held a candle to Orphan of Kos. That thing showed me what a true monster can look like. And how about this yall, so worried about the Waterfoul? Grab a shield with 100% physical damage reduction if you couldnt get away. She’d heal, but there isnt a single other attack she does that seriously puts you at risk. Even with a tiny shield I blocked 2 of the Waterfoul volleys and I manged to survive no problem. Do not compare Melania to Orphan. Orphan is a legitimate monster. I never felt horror against Melania, because Orphan beat her to it, so she felt way more tame

[@huckmart2017]

Inner isshin and inner owl are easy in comparison for me. Malenia is bs

[@PralaynathGendaswami]

You talking Melenia?? I am still stuck with Stromhill Evergoal's Crucible knight 💀

[@celiafrostborn]

The healing is fine, her damage is way to high for also getting that benefit though. Waterfowl though is the literal worst, they could of like made it travel less far or do less damage or something right! I died to her alot but it was mostly to just waterfowl, may she rot and May I never fight her again...

[@gavinbrown962]

On my first play through it took me a hour and a half to kill her On my second play through I killed her first try The trick is a good bleed set and be aggressive not overly aggressive but just the right amount of aggression

[@gavinbrown962]

My set is a rivers of blood katana and the dragon seal with all dragon breaths, second run was dual rivers of blood katanas and dragon seal all 10+

[@zanido9073]

3:05 "if you think it's going to be hard, even if he isn't, you're probably going to struggle". HARD disagree. If I had walked into her fight blind I probably would've been like "wtf is this boss holy shit". However I had heard that she was the game's hardest boss ahead of time, so when I encountered her I knew I needed to pay attention. She was definitely tough, but she wasn't as difficult as I was afraid of. Really it was just that ONE attack waterfowl dance that was the problem, once solved I was able to beat her in a couple tries. 5:00 her 2nd phase was not as hard as her first phase, because her hardest mechanic by far is waterfowl dance. Yes she uses it in 2nd phase but by then you've already figured out how to deal with it, and none of her other moves are anywhere near as difficult as that one.

[@Budd631]

Total disagree. She has new moves you haven’t seen yet and avoiding her Dance I’ve never seen anyone get through it without taking damage escort one or two people that clearly play this game for a living

[@Flatternschuchtern]

Uh the entirety of this video is either well established facts, or plainly wrong. What are these wild assumptions about player mindset and the way it supposedly affects anything? If it is true in your sample size of one, doesn't mean you can just present it as a fact without any proof. This birch absolutely needs a nerf to all of her bs moves and healing; right now its not reasonably possible to beat her without feeling like you're cheesing her AI or abusing unintended game mechanic, and it's not okay even if you happen to think that it is. My boy orphan of cos was such a great fight, he didn't deserve to get surpassed in difficulty by a poorly tested rng dependent pos anime birch.

[@joaoluizkfsantos8392]

Talk about a sample size of 1... "Not reasonably possible" for you, I've seen plenty doing it without cheese or AI manipulation. Its also your feeling that she needs a nerf, others (me included) disagree. Since unfortunately there is no academic study to cite in regards to souls bosses difficulty and fairness, I guess we'll just have to do with our assumptions and biases.

[@Flatternschuchtern]

@@joaoluizkfsantos8392 Ok so she does waterfowl dance, what's your move? Your toolkit of running, jumping, dodging is not covering it, you're gonna die. Sending her flying is AI cheese. Baiting it out and running away is AI cheese. Bloodhound step, freezing pots, stunlocking, summons and what not, is exploiting. Shields are not available for everyone and heal her anyway. Almost looks like shitty boss design huh

[@joaoluizkfsantos8392]

So 90% of the game mechanics and intentional strategies are cheeses or exploits? Ok then... Will say what I did, I learned the timing to dodge even at point blank range. Did I still take chip damage most of the time? Yeah, sure. But I stopped dying to it after 30 or so attempts. And shields are available to everyone, I've seen RL 1 ppl blocking that shit. I could see she being tweaked to make the fight more enjoyable for more people, but is already plenty enjoyable for me.

[@Flatternschuchtern]

@@joaoluizkfsantos8392 In these games you have to be able to dodge everything everytime if you're good, and have a fair chance to beat a boss with any build without having to swap to a shield all of a sudden, or waiting for perfect rng. There are plenty moves that don't follow these rules in Elden Ring and it is the first FromSoft game to introduce this issue, it literally never happened before. Even Mohg nihiling you for chip damage through protection is unacceptable, but Malenia happens to be the most outrageous case of this. A ton of people complain about her since day one, every review calls her out on her BS, but if you don't mind it, guess all is good in the world. If we're speculating here, I bet 90% of people either summoned or lucked out the first time beating her, without mastering the fight, because it is simply not worth mastering due to being way overtuned.

[@joaoluizkfsantos8392]

@@Flatternschuchtern but it possible to beat any boss with any build and dodge everything if you are good enough (except Elden Stars, fuck Elden Stars). Granted, this "being good" is a higher bar now, to completely avoid chip damage in some cases you have to be a god almost. So I even agree that it'd be good if they tone the dodge windows up a few frames. But right now it's not, by this definition, unfair. Idk about Mohg, it's more an interactive cutscene transition than anything. I'd have a lot of issues if Nihil was a move he could just pull off at anytime. And if we are pulling out statistics, I remember a youtube poll once asking "Is Malenia Fair?" 70% was Yes, weirdly enough I'd expect it to be much lower given the amount of complaints I heard around yt (26% or so was NO, with a small percentage of the stupid joke answer ytbers always add). I don't really think that's representative of anything, but neither is your 90% bet.

[@saryakan]

She has not a little bit of BS sprinkled into the fight. She has so many unique mechanics, that she almost forces you to adapt a very specific play style in order to deal with her, due to her BS. Take away her stagger immunity during attack animations, her stagger-canceling and her life steal and she'd become a slightly above average in difficulty boss, even if you leave waterfowl unchanged. Granted they now and then do that. E.g. Sekiro forces you into a very different style on "monstrous" bosses and enemies compared to "normal" ones. Headless Ape and Demon of Hatred are very different to Owl or Isshin. DS1 teaches you to hug a bosses behind, then throws multi target fights like O&S or Nito in to the late game. Seath's most dangerous attack is also only done if you are behind him and good luck wasting time getting behind four kings instead of dpsing them down. The rythms and animations of Dancer, Nameless King and Dragon Slayer Armor feel somewhat designed to throw you off and roll catch you as well. But it never felt so bad as with Malenia and always more natural than her BS.

[@saryakan]

In fact I'd say Waterfowl is actually her least bullshit out of all the BS she has going on.

[@HahaHaha-gq8ft]

Might be the hardest boss fight in all of gaming now a days . At least for me .

[@Slumpy_Sloth]

I stumbled upon her at level 180 on my first play through just now, having heard she was the hardest boss in the game. Got through phase 1 and was kinda shocked at how quick my mimic and I got through it, second phase got hit a couple times and again my mimic and I wiped her out 😂 I might be over leveled I think, the whole fight took maybe a minute not including the cutscene

[@MudkipMan97]

Way overleveled and mimic tear, it's easy mode

[@chuvits217]

How tf you managed to get to her with 180 lvls? As far as i remember, you should be +- 140 lvl after finishing the game with killing every main boss. Were you farming runes for lvls?

[@Slumpy_Sloth]

@@chuvits217 after I beat the storyline bosses I did indeed do some farming, I think I was level 155 or something when I completed the main story(with a lot of sidetracking) but yes there was definitely some rune farming involved to hit 180

[@EldenRinging]

took me 4-5 tries to kill her 🤩🤩 but only after I got to level 184 with max. rivers of blood, max. black knight tiche, vigor 52, strength 52, endurance 50, dex. 36

[@emperordalek102]

I beat elden ring 2 times. Once as sauron and second as malenia blade of miquella

[@No-oc2ji]

Damn called me out at the start

[@CerealPB06]

Took me 3 or 4 tries my first play through. Idk why everyone says she’s so tough.

[@cirnobyl9158]

The hard thing about Malenia for me was that I never figured out how to deal with WFD at point blank. But I got good enough at everything else that as long as WFD point blank didn't kill me, I could just flask up and get back into fighting. Realistically she's only get to use WFD 4-6 times before either she or I perish since her healthbar isn't that big.

[@majora919]

People might think I'm crazy but she's pretty easy compared to the hardest bosses of the last 3 fromsoft games, maybe she's harder than midir idk but no way she's harder than orphan or isshin

[@AldoTegan]

Fun fact malenia is the only boss in Elden Ring besides Margit that I had problems with and both Is the only bosses I beat solo. And now both that bosses is like a cake walk in a corn field.

[@MedioCore]

Loved this video, you are seriously underrated! :)

[@ZSnoozeZ]

Thank you very much! That truly means a lot and is very much appreciated:)

[@Volstx]

Shes only hard cz shes badly designed

[@ronaldmacjokerfeliz2669]

It's because she breaks the rules of the game, simple as that

[@anyoneanyone3007]

I actually have proof that malenia cheats. Malenia unlike any boss in any soulsborne game has the ability to cancel her stagger animations and substitute it with an attack as well as indefinitely delaying her stance break to the point of cancelling as long as shes attacking.