Why Man United's Biggest Problem Is Erik Ten Hag

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Күн бұрын

Manchester United were a toenail away from arguably the most humiliating defeat in FA Cup history. But despite the manager's assertions that their victory should be celebrated, Coventry City showed four times precisely what is wrong with Erik Ten Hag's management... and why he'll not be able to fix it. FourFourTwo's Adam Clery unpacks the match as a whole, and says it might be time for the Dutchman to move on.
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@Blue_Pumpkin
@Blue_Pumpkin 5 ай бұрын
To confuse your enemy you must confuse yourself first. - Tsu Zu
@therealking6202
@therealking6202 4 ай бұрын
I thought his name was Moon?!? 🤣🤣 (Brilliant post BTW)
@venantmwakio224
@venantmwakio224 4 ай бұрын
😮Hag seems to achieve the first part
@MrMoRiz
@MrMoRiz 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the funniest comments I’ve ever read on KZbin. 😂 Thank you. 👍
@polovski1000
@polovski1000 3 ай бұрын
mwaahahaaaa!🤣
@VictorMongrelPrawira
@VictorMongrelPrawira 2 ай бұрын
Maguire is *Sun Tzu’s best student
@pauldiamond1058
@pauldiamond1058 5 ай бұрын
That Bruno hojlund clip sums it up
@th3doorMatt
@th3doorMatt 5 ай бұрын
genuinely looked like a clip pulled from FIFA/EA Football or whatever the fuck it's called these days
@TmcksnT
@TmcksnT 5 ай бұрын
Are we really having a go at a no9 not knowing how to defend on the wing?
@th3doorMatt
@th3doorMatt 5 ай бұрын
@@TmcksnT there's a difference in "not knowing" and players not even following their own instructions after communicating though. no one expects Rasmus to be a top-tier defender at the back, but the fact that Bruno pointed and told Rasmus to defend the man in front of him, only for them to both commit to the ball as soon as it's passed off is...comical. There has to to be some baseline when it comes to defending. Defending is done as a team, up and down every table in every league. If you can't or don't defend as a team, you ship goals. It's not the sole responsibility of the defenders to protect the goal.
@TmcksnT
@TmcksnT 5 ай бұрын
@@th3doorMatt I know I'm just saying I'm not surprised to see he was confused or seemed uncultured in that moment. It's like having a go at Maguire for not finishing a one on one.
@YETI_312
@YETI_312 5 ай бұрын
They were in sync for some seconds too😂​@@th3doorMatt
@jonny3801
@jonny3801 5 ай бұрын
Best football tactics show there is out there and I don’t mean just on KZbin.
@mikeblake9761
@mikeblake9761 5 ай бұрын
Adam is the goat for real
@samuelford
@samuelford 5 ай бұрын
Are you mad, it's SO basic. Just a load of slo motion hindsight and pointing out that we arent in a low block.
@docgraal485
@docgraal485 4 ай бұрын
@@samuelford ikr, football tactic videos fail to acknowledge the actual speed the game is played at. Lots of slow motion and STILL IMAGES.
@samuelford
@samuelford 4 ай бұрын
@@docgraal485 'if a player was standing here and not there then xyz wouldnt happen' the basis of 99 percent of "tactical" hipster videos. It's like watching someone say to a bricklayer, just lay more bricks and the house will be bigger, everyone likes a bigger house!'
@sr8919
@sr8919 4 ай бұрын
tifo better
@CCChing-wl9ir
@CCChing-wl9ir 5 ай бұрын
I still can't discern if it's ten Hag being poor tactically or the players having zero tactical intelligence. Most diplomatic answer will be somewhere in the middle. But I trust ten Hag is a tactically astute coach with his proven record at Ajax (people were drooling over his Ajax and often remarked that's how Man Utd should play). The players, well, they've proven record of frustrating 3 previous managers and 1 current manager.
@saheedolawle
@saheedolawle 4 ай бұрын
Under ole we mentioned players most of this players had gone pogba and Co even martial not even playing, tactically ten hag is clueless, he can't adapt with premier league football, he is not creative enough.
@hanslevin
@hanslevin 4 ай бұрын
Why not both?
@vidalgutierrez1736
@vidalgutierrez1736 4 ай бұрын
@@saheedolawlewhat is “premier league football”? 😂 tactics are tactics and you need players to execute
@mrwest_1
@mrwest_1 4 ай бұрын
Yup you summed it up very well
@BK-td6st
@BK-td6st 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@vidalgutierrez1736Can’t Agree with that becuase premier League is the most physically demanding league which means the football is faster, stronger and more intense. Great example is bringing Antony and Donny from Ajax and they can’t really handle the league, Antony doesn’t do much and gets pushed off the ball like a fly, Donny was just never involved in the game, even at Everton football was too fast. Spanish league is less phsycial but it’s more creative passing and playstyle or at least in my opinion.
@notorious3496
@notorious3496 5 ай бұрын
Ten hag ball has always been like that. People are finding this now bc most of them only watched Ajax at ucl but it was the same there. The only difference was Ajax offence were very good and their technical floor was way higher than uniteds. This way they could control games and transition quickly plus the technicality.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 5 ай бұрын
ETH got given £400M to sign players to raise the technical floor and he absolutely wasted it. Signed Casie as FDJ type progressor, signed Mount as a creative mid when the guy barely has a creative bone in his body. Also refused to play Donny, sent Pellestri and Alvarez on loan who are all technical players. Fell out with Sancho too. The guy should just leave for his own peace of mind not mine.
@notorious3496
@notorious3496 5 ай бұрын
@@iwantgoals1566 that's another topic my guy. Talking about his playstyle
@ethan8326
@ethan8326 5 ай бұрын
@@iwantgoals1566lost ur point 4 words in, he doesn’t spend the money, he got some players he wanted, and most others have been 2nd choices, over payed and are injured
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 5 ай бұрын
@@notorious3496 And I’m saying he didn’t buy the right players to support his play style bruh.
@iwantgoals1566
@iwantgoals1566 5 ай бұрын
@@ethan8326 What part of “spent £400m” did you not understand?
@nacl_21
@nacl_21 5 ай бұрын
You know it's serious when it's Clery blaming a manager
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 5 ай бұрын
The weird thing to me is that last season Ten Hag turned Man U around and they got 3rd place and Champions League when all the pundits (and me) said it would take years to sort out the mess. Now that he has actually been able to bring in a few of his desired players, they are actually playing worse.
@souradeepsengupta95
@souradeepsengupta95 5 ай бұрын
I simply don't understand how he seemed so clear-eyed and decisive last season and is floundering like this now. I can only imagine Casemiro had one phenomenal season left in his legs, and Ten Hag made full use of that. Because the system isn't very different than it was last. Also Rashford, whose drop off a cliff I do not understand -- in terms of goals and assists, he always alternates between good and bad in consecutive seasons, but he has always run his socks off. He is now the worst presser in the league probably.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 5 ай бұрын
@@souradeepsengupta95 Yes, it is strange isn't it. I've seen it suggested that his system with a high press needs a mobile back 4 and he hasn't got that without Martinez, leaving massive midfield gaps. Interesting point about Casemiro. It seems as if key players are missing and his preferred system doesn't work, he hasn't got a Plan B. With Rashford I wonder if he's simply fallen out of love with football. He sometimes gets the inspiration again - as for a period under Ten Hag - but then loses it. Snag is that talent isn't enough at the highest level, you need dedication too, and it doesn't feel as if the Man U atmosphere in recent years has encouraged this. That being said it's amazing how they have pulled out some late comebacks - but also late capitulations.
@whatwhat3432523
@whatwhat3432523 5 ай бұрын
So what? Ole did the same, Mark Goldbridge said Ole should get a statue if he got top 4. He got 3rd and 2nd the first two seasons, where we thought it would take a decade to replace such a incompetent squad and atmosphere. + a bunch of semi finals and finals with a squad EVEN WORSE then this. With key players constantly injured, and players individually choking in key games to an extent never seen before in proffesional football. This is on Ten Hag, the only redeeming thing about his tenure is the easiest carabao cup run we have seen the last 20 years.
@AshBashSneakers
@AshBashSneakers 5 ай бұрын
Sooooooooo over half his team being injured all season didn’t factor into this?
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 5 ай бұрын
@@AshBashSneakers Plenty of other PL teams in the same boat with injuries. Man U of all teams should have the squad depth to cope! And Ten Hag's own signings have been available for much of the season but have been underwhelming. So I do feel he exceeded expectations last year but has disappointed this season.
@1607Adi_Manz
@1607Adi_Manz 5 ай бұрын
INEOS should give him lifetime extension
@sjkdbuwauxiohceunbk3483
@sjkdbuwauxiohceunbk3483 5 ай бұрын
trust the process
@aakarmamtora3470
@aakarmamtora3470 5 ай бұрын
They will and ten hag will do well again and you lot will cry again
@kowalski9er273
@kowalski9er273 5 ай бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I have faith in ETH.
@CollideWithTheSlope
@CollideWithTheSlope 5 ай бұрын
with no possibility of parole.
@Ascii89
@Ascii89 4 ай бұрын
Last year we had the best defense in the league, you could say we overperformed in most departments. This year we could almost never field our 1st team from last year (at least at the back). Not to mention the reluctance of certain players to put in a shift. The manager was cooking something until he ran out of ingredients and until some of them decided to spontaneously rot prematurely. There's only so many things a manager can fix, think about it, we've been in this position at least two more times under different managers. Not even Mourinho survived it, what makes you think whoever we'll bring in next miraculously fixes everything? Players need to go way before the manager, and history has shown us that.
@nickmccall8027
@nickmccall8027 5 ай бұрын
Spot on analysis Adam. United fans are 50/50 on whether the issue is Ten Hag or the players. But when the players are instructed to vacate the midfield, it causes chaos and confusion! Also, he never changes tactics during games. Look at the Liverpool thrashing. Did nothing. Great vid as always Adam 🔥
@jamescotton01
@jamescotton01 5 ай бұрын
He doesn’t instruct them to vacate the midfield that is a lazy misunderstanding. If ETH has a fault, it is insisting on play his way with such a poor squad.
@whlewis9164
@whlewis9164 5 ай бұрын
Yes - the issue is 50% players and 50% Ten Haag.
@redmondrecords2196
@redmondrecords2196 5 ай бұрын
Ten Hag has no plan B. Look at how Ajax lost the semi final against Tottenham from a winning position. Frustrating to watch
@ShawnGitahi
@ShawnGitahi 5 ай бұрын
Why doesn't he start his good players who he got like amrabat,mount,Antony to do it🤣even casemiro he got
@stevoc9930
@stevoc9930 5 ай бұрын
Only idiots think Ten Hag isn't the major problem.
@user-mo1zo2yj6l
@user-mo1zo2yj6l 5 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis as always Adam, great watch
@i11usiveman97
@i11usiveman97 5 ай бұрын
Spot on analysis as usual Adam. Seeing the same thing every game with complete stubbornness from ETH has been exhausting. I don't see how he can stick to his guns so consistently and see the things everyone can see, without doing or trying anything else. Its baffling, and it will unfortunately lose him his job eventually. I dont want an endless cycle of sacking managers but it isn't working.
@steveallen3434
@steveallen3434 5 ай бұрын
What I can't understand is how the players on the field could not work it out themselves. Lack of leaders.
@shiroeli9936
@shiroeli9936 5 ай бұрын
Not a mu fan so I’m so wholeheartedly glad to see some MU fans still supporting him ☺️
@Redvil01
@Redvil01 5 ай бұрын
Then you don't know what you're talking about.
@sagethinker7168
@sagethinker7168 5 ай бұрын
Ten hags chaos end to end football tactics in the premier League is crazy he could do that at Ajax because Ajax and PSV are miles ahead of all the other dutch teams but in the premier league playing with no midfield is madness.
@smartalec18anonymous
@smartalec18anonymous 5 ай бұрын
What was the reason Ajax could do it in the CL under him?
@sagethinker7168
@sagethinker7168 5 ай бұрын
@@smartalec18anonymous Because the CL is a cup competition that lasts only 6-13 games depending on how far you go while the premier League lasts 38 games to play like that over 38 games is not possible
@adamstannard7934
@adamstannard7934 4 ай бұрын
​@@sagethinker7168 but it worked against major teams in the CL
@sagethinker7168
@sagethinker7168 4 ай бұрын
@@adamstannard7934 It's a bit of a myth when Ajax played Madrid they should of scored 20 goals over the 2 legs but missed so many easy chances and Ajax bottled a 2 goal lead against spurs before going out.
@thomasgundersen8975
@thomasgundersen8975 4 ай бұрын
@@smartalec18anonymous For one season. Roberto di Matteo won CL with Chelsea. Where is he now.
@troidsken
@troidsken 5 ай бұрын
Those defensive lines got me cracking up every time.....brilliant!!
@darriusdias
@darriusdias 5 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this video all weekend! **sips tea** Ah! One thing that did strike me was the lack of shouting/instructions from the touchline, ETH just stood there with a glaze(r)d look in his eyes.
@TuNguyen-jp8ys
@TuNguyen-jp8ys 5 ай бұрын
shouting would just confuse them even more. This team is so fucked.
@manqobakunene
@manqobakunene 5 ай бұрын
@@TuNguyen-jp8ys Exactly these guys have failed with multiple managers, they are useless
@vaughan1379
@vaughan1379 5 ай бұрын
You toxic fans said the same things for 10 years straight lmao
@tonmoybaidya2743
@tonmoybaidya2743 5 ай бұрын
@@vaughan1379 I am a city fan and even I thought ETH simply gave up at that game. He doesn't belong in such a massive club. He has to go.
@david_fitzmaurice
@david_fitzmaurice 5 ай бұрын
​@@tonmoybaidya2743 Ah yes just like Fergies first 5 years at UTD where he was so bad and clueless too but he was given time and look what happened.
@alwaysforward1886
@alwaysforward1886 5 ай бұрын
This sort of content is what makes KZbin outstanding. Absolutely love your work🎉
@SLSAMG
@SLSAMG 4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile.... Sancho is in a champions league final and Ronaldo is thriving. Yeah... classic fraud with grandiose delusions.
@djmattblack
@djmattblack 4 ай бұрын
Didnt the same thing happen to Ten Hag when he was Ajax manager and they were 3-0 up against Spurs who then came back and drew the game 3-3, surely that couldnt happen again, could it?
@JohnWickin
@JohnWickin 5 ай бұрын
Ill stand by the fact that Chelsea have been better than United all season. Would genuinly be top 4 with a quality finisher. United have been shit in every game I've watched and STILL have negative goal difference
@gsampson97
@gsampson97 5 ай бұрын
I was at Sheffield united v Chelsea and Jackson is just awful. There's 10 other strikers in the league who would have scored but he's clearly got no confidence. If Nkunku was fit all season they'd be so much better
@emilevangheem6165
@emilevangheem6165 5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy to think they actually have a 100m striker they just loaned him out so now they can’t even buy an expensive/world class striker lmao
@duyanhng8430
@duyanhng8430 5 ай бұрын
@@emilevangheem6165lukaku destroyed every bridge possible at chelsea, they cant use him anymore without a weird atmosphere looming over everyone
@GuyJames
@GuyJames 5 ай бұрын
@@gsampson97 the thing about Jackson is that he can suddenly turn it on and be really good every now and then. Same with Mudryk. A pity the rest of the time they are absolute shite.
@emilevangheem6165
@emilevangheem6165 5 ай бұрын
@@duyanhng8430 of course but it shows you how bad things are at chelsea
@horatiohuskisson5471
@horatiohuskisson5471 4 ай бұрын
He’s been doing everything himself for almost 18 months and already won a trophy as well as getting into his 3rd final. Arteta started with back-to-back 8th place finishes. I think he deserves till Jan under INEOS
@Ohfishyfishyfish
@Ohfishyfishyfish 4 ай бұрын
You really just congratulated ten Hag for winning the League Cup and compared that favourably against Arteta, who won the FA Cup in his first season.
@horatiohuskisson5471
@horatiohuskisson5471 4 ай бұрын
@@Ohfishyfishyfish Arteta: 2 8th place finishes and an FA Cup with full backing of Edu Ten Hag: 3rd & 8th place finish and a League Cup with the worst owners in the history of the EPL Hmmm
@mazdakmorati2297
@mazdakmorati2297 5 ай бұрын
My first time watching. Finally a channel that tells it like it is. Not only Ten Hag but most of the players must be gone as well. Keep up the good work 👍
@Tompanelli1
@Tompanelli1 5 ай бұрын
I find it mind bending that these are ETH’s deliberate tactics when it’s been clear all season (from opening game v Wolves) they don’t work. What is going on in his head??
@Mopark25
@Mopark25 4 ай бұрын
Long term vs short term thinking. This is how he wants to play, but he needs better players. But he doesn't have another season to transition, so he's implementing it now.
@davidgrove9795
@davidgrove9795 5 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis as always. Countdown cutaway 😂😂
@thevoiceofcaramel3194
@thevoiceofcaramel3194 5 ай бұрын
Spot on Adam. Been saying it for a while. Doesn’t give the players a free pass either but I think Erik has become a larger concern over time
@jadenalvarado4912
@jadenalvarado4912 4 ай бұрын
Thank you he should've played Ronaldo and he is not ready for this type of club. Ten Hag is built for Ajax. The biggest problem is he is supposed to implement style regardless of results but then he ends up trying to be a manager who trying to get results. Because of that reason he should be sacked but I am willing to say give him 1 more chance next season. After 2 chances and this continues next season a manager deserves the sack
@BoldBreak
@BoldBreak 5 ай бұрын
Changing the Manager does nothing. It has been this way for years. Let ETH see out his final year on his contract and go from there. The players are to blame as much as the Manager. The whole team needs to be gutted.
@ketainooson2884
@ketainooson2884 4 ай бұрын
His tactics baffle me.
@BoldBreak
@BoldBreak 4 ай бұрын
@@ketainooson2884 I agree, but it’s hard to know how much the player influence a breakdown of his tactics. Closing down your opponents is essential to the high intensity football ETH wants to play. But closing down players for Manchester United seems to be a huge issue. One of the most simple things in football. Rashford being an example
@ggates2500
@ggates2500 4 ай бұрын
Changing the manager for a new one who provides clarity and excellent advice absolutely can change things around. Mind you, I don't want Utd anywhere near one of them ))
@sonure6127
@sonure6127 4 ай бұрын
This is the first football strategy video i understood to some extent. Thank you.
@BethEL77120
@BethEL77120 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Really helpful explanation of Coventry changes & good to point out that players not knowing where they should be is the responsibility of the manager. I think you’re very unfair to Casemiro and Eriksen at 11.07 in the video though. You say they’re not doing anything but they clearly are, esp. Eriksen. Eriksen has just won the header, goes to chase the ball, sees Dalot going to the ball ahead of him so starts to run to Dalot’s previous man and then when the Coventry player gets around Dalot, he stops where he is to be a block to the player who is now on the ball moving towards goal. And if Casemiro wasn’t standing where he is, there would just be loads of open space in front of United’s goal.
@BethEL77120
@BethEL77120 5 ай бұрын
By the way, you can see in your own video (10.39-10.42) that Eriksen wins the header and starts to chase the ball and in your own video (11.02-11.05) that Eriksen sees Dalot is going to get to the ball ahead of him,moves to cover for Dalot and then stops when the Coventry player gets around Dalot. I just found it odd that you went so hard in your criticism of those two players for that moment when (a) I think you’re wrong; (b) you’re clear elsewhere in the video that players not knowing where to be in this defensive set-up is the manager’s fault; and (c) these two players are already getting tons of over the top criticism after this match.
@axamitidynamit8355
@axamitidynamit8355 5 ай бұрын
Life-long United faithful, you’re 101% spot on! Been talking about this for 14 months. Nobody knows what they’re supposed to do on the pitch. No transfers, no lucky wins, no individual moments of brilliance can change that. Ten Hag is out of his depth and he should walk. The sooner the better. With him, we have become a joke. And his pressers are just unbelievable. After this game he said he must "teach his players" how not to lose 3 goals in 20 minutes in a cup semi. After almost TWO YEARS at the wheel!! EtH OUT!
@jake688
@jake688 5 ай бұрын
May I remind you that the same was said with ole, Jose and Ragnick,, it's strange all those manager didn't tell them what to do,,,, united fans are part of the problem, calling for a manager leaving useless players
@nickg2431
@nickg2431 5 ай бұрын
Thats fine by me,as long as ETH takes half a squad of crap with him including martial,trashford,antony,ericcson,cass,verane,mcguire,lind,aramabat,sando or whatever his name is and of course mclaren and the sports"phsycologist"
@wr2899
@wr2899 5 ай бұрын
@@jake688 His style of play doesn't work with this team. He wasn't playing this transitional last season and United had more success. He has gone too far too fast with this group of players For me, the killer is the fact that he can see that however is too stubborn to dial it down and change course. It doesn't matter if his style might work with a perfect group of players, United need a manager who is pragmatic about their ideology.
@vaughan1379
@vaughan1379 5 ай бұрын
Life long United fan that wants the club to make the same mistakes over and over, INEOS should not make the same mistake as the Glazers and definitely shouldn’t be listening to you fools and the English media
@pbh81
@pbh81 5 ай бұрын
Can you explain how or why utd were so successful last year? And why the dramatic fall off in performance this year with the same manager
@Corythosaurus8
@Corythosaurus8 4 ай бұрын
I've been saying it for ages. None of Ten Hag's men really know what they should be doing in the 'system' they are playing. That's partially on the players, but mostly on the manager. It's his job to make sure they have a clear idea of their role and their responsibilities, and if that needs tweaking like stopping players from exploiting space, then the manager needs to effectively communicate that. He's just not a good manager.
@fabianfranco1062
@fabianfranco1062 5 ай бұрын
Bravo 👏🏻 very well said. Southgate in!!’
@erregete
@erregete 4 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Manchester United RW known as "Garncho". Sounds like a pokemon
@Shakeyy97
@Shakeyy97 5 ай бұрын
I'm an arsenal fan, they should absolutely keep Erik ten hag, genius.
@fromtheblonx
@fromtheblonx 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis again mate! Seeing it put the way you have there's only one option. Laters ETH👋😅
@jhf2121
@jhf2121 29 күн бұрын
Ten Hag: Has a sackably poor league run and is nearly embarrassed by Coventry Adam: Ten Hag has done really badly Ten Hag: Wins a one off game vs City Commenters: "Adam is stupid"
@RobinWilliams002
@RobinWilliams002 5 ай бұрын
There is a mismatch between what the manager wants and what the available players are capable of
@Jay-xw9ll
@Jay-xw9ll 4 ай бұрын
The Brazilian is too slow for any position and Eriksson should never be playing as a defensive cm. Erikson was one of the most influential attacking players in world footy, then he had a heart attack. Not the ideal candidate to add legs to your midfield? The "open" system was great for Ajax when dominating a weak Dutch league . Unfortunately for utd they play in a competitive league.
@TonyShneak
@TonyShneak 5 ай бұрын
I think the biggest concern a lot of people have, is that if the manager goes again, the same group of players will be given yet another fresh start and a 'chance to prove themselves to the new manager'. And the vast majority of them don't deserve it. Maguire, Lindelof, AWB, McT, Martial, Rashford, Sancho will all get to stay when we all know you will never win the league with them.
@jhf2121
@jhf2121 5 ай бұрын
The issue with this thought is that the spine of the squad is ten Hag's. The guy has been backed in the market and the output this season has been awful.
@josephweir6754
@josephweir6754 4 ай бұрын
I love seeing Man U continually press with 5-6 players only, with the entire defence way behind them, leaving loads of space for other teams to play through. I'm not sure how long it'll take before it stops being funny. Keep Ten Hag please :)
@meadff1
@meadff1 4 ай бұрын
I have to agree -have thought so for several months. If a manager is to stay, he has to show signs of progress. Utd have regressed - and the tactical and collective failures have been absolutely glaring - with numerous analysts pointing it out. ETH has not been able to get a tune out of the side, we collapse very easily, we are too easy to play against, we are too easy to score against, we leave a massive gap in the middle of the park that opponents have exploited all season long, we cannot control games - this is all blindingly obvious. The manager has a major responsibility for all of the above -yes, there are of course other factors at the club. But would you build a long-term strategy round this coach on this evidence? The answer, to me, is obvious.
@TheStf99
@TheStf99 5 ай бұрын
No left back, one center back, no holding mid. Shut up he's doing the best with what he's got.
@ShawnGitahi
@ShawnGitahi 5 ай бұрын
What is amrabat,a holding mid who he got🤣and how does that have to do with being outplayed by Coventry
@KennethLai-o5j
@KennethLai-o5j 4 ай бұрын
We all know it is Marcus Rashford but we can't blame just one player on this.
@KayZenShoGün
@KayZenShoGün 5 ай бұрын
It still baffles me how Liverpool managed to not decimate this team. Its just crazy.
@Randomaccount9470
@Randomaccount9470 5 ай бұрын
Overthinking they see man utd 2011 Instead of Sheffields utd at old Trafford
@jga7887
@jga7887 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, sack another manager. Repeat it again and again. Sir Alex is considered the best manager in the premier league. We would think Sir Alex had dominated right when he came in, but no, Sir Alex finished 11th twice and was at the brink of getting sacked. They didn't. Look what happened then. I'm not saying never to sack managers, back come on now, if United is that bad, they still have reached 3 finals in 2 years. And have had a trophy. You guys are acting like United have young energetic players who can run on and on. United literally had 8 of their players over 25 playing. How is Erik supposed to do anything else. The team doesn't need coaching to beat Coventry. We had player to player better players. But these players who supposedly have experience don't do anything and stand there. How is any manager supposed to coach a team like this?
@Shadowespeon17
@Shadowespeon17 4 ай бұрын
You can't compare Fergie's early days. Much different era, much more patient and much less money circulated around Football. As for this season, so much open space and the players look confused as to who's supposed to deal with what threat.
@GraemeRoberts
@GraemeRoberts 4 ай бұрын
Man United's defensive and set piece coaches have been stealing a living for years. Lots of injured defenders this year but a team full of internationals should still be able to see out a game when 3-0 up after 70 mins. It's going to be an interesting summer.
@holliswong8519
@holliswong8519 4 ай бұрын
The thing for me is. This "problem" isn't explicit to Ten Hag. We have seen this with other managers. I think the problem runs a lot deeper.
@Musakhan23901
@Musakhan23901 4 ай бұрын
No we haven’t mate, we’ve never had this many losses this few points, this bad of a ucl campaign and this bad of a style of play under any other manager in the premier league era
@thesunshinehome
@thesunshinehome 4 ай бұрын
@@Musakhan23901 He's got the highest win percentage
@Musakhan23901
@Musakhan23901 4 ай бұрын
@@thesunshinehome and also the highest loss percentage, our worst points tally in the premier league era, the worst ever champions league performance by an English team, 7-0 loss to biggest rivals, no style of play, conceded 20 shots a game
@jdill2225
@jdill2225 4 ай бұрын
​@Musakhan23901 the style of play is clear. The players he has to work with can't execute. Half the starters are injured and the other half can't be bothered to put I'm a shift (ex. Rashford). ETH had a great season last year coming from where they were. There's growing pains right now. Mfs are so impatient they think years of shit can be reversed immediately in a season with a new manager and new style.
@Musakhan23901
@Musakhan23901 4 ай бұрын
@@jdill2225 no it isn’t, you just don’t understand ball mate, maybe try switching to a more simplistic sport like basketball or something
@FF-oo8nz
@FF-oo8nz 4 ай бұрын
Clueless. You cannot judge this season due to the amount of injuries.... Ten Hag played 90% of the season without his main CB and no left back... and only relying on a 20 year old striker who arrived injured..... Honestly to take these players to 3 finals in 2 years is an amazing achievement, Ten Hag should definitely stay.
@PhantomRaspberryBlower
@PhantomRaspberryBlower 4 ай бұрын
To me the biggest crime is there is no learning. This has been happening all season. Every other manager in the league knows that they will have space in front of the defence. Even Burnley go to Man Utd and get 15 shots. It is so obvious and he still does not fix it. How many chances have to be given away to realise there may be a problem to be fixed. You are absolutely right about the complete lack of control. People talk about Man Utd being inconsistent. But they are very consistent in leaving gaps and not controlling games at all.
@jonhopkins7469
@jonhopkins7469 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for noticing Cov made substitutions that changed the game
@spacetime3
@spacetime3 5 ай бұрын
I dont think ETH wouldn't have been telling them to be more structured or compact... I just think there aren't any leaders on the field that call out instructions or manage the game. Like Telling Arron to get back etc. Players being in random position isn't something a coach would be telling them. Its things like McTominay don't doing his defensive work, AWB not being aware or calling for cover when he needs it from Rashy... And Rashy just doing what he wants and no defensive work.
@cuD123
@cuD123 5 ай бұрын
Okay, let's list the games Ten Hagg's tactics have thrown away this season Arsenal: 1-0 to 3-1 Tottenham: 1-0 and 2-1 to 2-2 Nottingham 1-1 to 2-1 Fulham: 1-1 to 2-1 Liverpool: 2-1 to 2-2 Wolves 3-1 to 3-3 back to 3-4 because of Mainoo Galatasaray: 2-0 and 3-1 to 3-3 AND 2-1 to 2-3 Copenhagen: 3-2 to 4-3 Coventry: 3-0 to 3-3 Brentford: 1-0 to 1-1 Every single game listed above had United leading/drawing in the 80+ minute before conceding City: 1-0 to 3-1 Newport: 2-0 to 2-2 back to 4-2 West Ham: 0-0 to 2-0 These games, we had the advantage at halftime before giving away the lead The only games we've won late into the game due to these "tactics" are the following (no Wolves does not count): Nottingham: 2-0 down after 4 minutes to win 3-2 Brentford: 2-1 in the 90+ minute Villa: 3-2 It doesn't work, and if Ten Hagg can't see that he should be sacked.
@cuD123
@cuD123 5 ай бұрын
If United had seen out HALF of the Premier League games (20 points dropped), we would be level on points with Tottenham and 3 points off of Villa in 4th. We would have made it through in the UCL or faced Sparta Prague in the Europa League. If United had seen out every single one of these results (unlikely but this is a hypothetical), we would be on 70 points, Arsenal would be on 71, City would be on 70, and Liverpool would be on 73
@cuD123
@cuD123 5 ай бұрын
6 points off Villa with 2 games in hand**
@docgraal485
@docgraal485 4 ай бұрын
Football is not played in still images, you point out Casemiro and Eriksen did not pick up men but had they left their positions, the spaces that would have opened up would have been absolutley ridiculous. Whilst Man United are far from perfect, to say they don't know what they are doing is an unfair assessment. As if we did not have control of the game for 70 minutes
@AK-vq7qy
@AK-vq7qy 5 ай бұрын
Love this video. So insightful. Can you please do an analysis of what has changed between last year and this year? I don’t understand why it is so s@@t now
@ghjklkop7868
@ghjklkop7868 4 ай бұрын
They need two managers, Ten Hag for the attack, and Southgate for the defence 🤪
@c0mbat15
@c0mbat15 4 ай бұрын
I hope the Utd board don't watch this channel because I really hope Ten Hag stays.
@ketainooson2884
@ketainooson2884 4 ай бұрын
His tactics baffle me.
@dannymunro7454
@dannymunro7454 4 ай бұрын
Liverpool fan. Hope Ten Excuses stays for a long time. Utd won't be able to sell many players because nobody will pay what they want or their wage. Nobody of note will want to come because of the state they're in and no European football. It's great. Can't see them getting out of this hole any time soon.
@harukrentz435
@harukrentz435 4 ай бұрын
You get your own version of bald fraud next season.
@carlmcclatchie2122
@carlmcclatchie2122 4 ай бұрын
Villa fan here, I would love for him to stay at united
@MarkG7
@MarkG7 5 ай бұрын
As a Utd fan, I think ten Hag should stay, for one reason alone. Currently, the structure, starting with Ashworth, that will need to work with the new manager isn't in place yet. There's absolutely no sense people like Ratcliffe and Brailsford making crucial football decisions like who the new manager will be, and wasting another 2 years of a mismatch between who they get and who the director of football thinks we need. Leave ten Hag in place until Ashworth and the rest of the structure are in place, and have assessed who they think is the right fit.
@sagethinker7168
@sagethinker7168 5 ай бұрын
Ten hags crazy chaos tactics are nothing to do with the structure
@MarkG7
@MarkG7 5 ай бұрын
@@sagethinker7168 I didn't say they were. I said I want the people who will be running the football operations, especially the director of football, to be making the decision about who the next manager should be, not Ratcliffe or Brailsford. Which means not sacking him yet.
@DaveGwill
@DaveGwill 4 ай бұрын
Ten Hag is the last of United’s problems. The main issue has been no structure higher up. You know this because not one manager we have had has succeeded. Recruitment is woeful, the medical department is stealing a living, the amount of injuries in key positions has been a massive reason for underperforming this year. Then you get to the players, some of which have downed tools others who are simply not good enough, we have no depth. You can blame ten hag for a few strange squad selections, his persistence on playing Rashford but that comes down to recruitment, we have no one better, amad is unproven and antony only performs in flashes. I will say it again, ten hag is the least of our problems.
@ActuallyAudacity
@ActuallyAudacity 4 ай бұрын
It absolutely is the players and injury. Why did no one mention all this last year when he was winning most games and came third in his first PL season? Last season Casemiro was good and Rashford was getting goals that would make CR7 proud. This season they've both been wank and Lisandro has been injured as well and we've not had a LB all season. I find it extremely unfair to judge ETH this season.
@michaeloporto5202
@michaeloporto5202 5 ай бұрын
Give him a 10 year contract
@damienjeremyweir4543
@damienjeremyweir4543 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@falkylittlefalky7445
@falkylittlefalky7445 5 ай бұрын
Oh also great video as always
@Lokireloaded
@Lokireloaded 5 ай бұрын
Adam giving out strong Jon richardson vibes during the countdown thing!
@mohammadabdulrahman7594
@mohammadabdulrahman7594 5 ай бұрын
I'll be here to remind you how you'd swallow those words. It's on the players to wrap their heads around this situation. Maguire being there with an 18 years old or a drunk Casemiro, no amount of coaching is good. It's blatant of you to think you know ball more than ten hag, at least in such obvious situations
@LuisMoreno-bf8hl
@LuisMoreno-bf8hl 4 ай бұрын
I’m sure this channel was licking Ten Hags boots last season. You can’t judge when the team has had 60+ injuries
@GoonerDejv
@GoonerDejv 5 ай бұрын
At this point one has to wonder, has anyone even checked if ETH actually completed his badges 🤷🏽‍♂️😂
@jordannelson7248
@jordannelson7248 5 ай бұрын
There's literally zero reasons to watch this FA cup final. How shit this competition has gotten.
@barryk00da
@barryk00da 4 ай бұрын
Shock. Offensive player heat map correlates with space left by opposing team. Videos like these do numbers with new fans but theres nothing profound to see here. And no, of course ten Hag isn't a bigger problem than 58 cumalative injuries or 15 years of structural decay by the Glazers.
@carlo48392
@carlo48392 5 ай бұрын
How is none of this down to the players? He brought on Antony to get fresh legs on the right side that could track back and press and he added Eriksen to stay back and control the game with smart passes out of the midfield. AWB was gassed and left for dead by Rashford who could never be bothered to do any defensive work and McTominay floated around at the top of the pitch hoping to run onto something from Bruno. Bruno kept trying to find another goal with Hollywood balls and too many touches. Yet all of that is 100% down to the manager? These are professionals playing at one of the biggest clubs in the world and they need to be coached on how to slow down play and make simple passes? If your backline is getting overrun and you're 3-0 or 3-1 up and you're too tired to get back on defense, drop back and help out instead of standing on their backline hoping to get the fourth goal. You don't need a manager, muchless an elite level manager better than ETH, to tell you that. They're footballers at what is supposed to be the top of their game. If this is the top of their game then I see 8 players on that pitch not fit to wear a United shirt. I think they know better and have the quality and it was a conscious choice to cruise and just hope that the full time whistle blow early. It was laziness mentally and physically and as much as a manager can and should address that after a game, he can't come on and slap McTominay awake or take the ball off of Rashford and Bruno when they both get the ball nicked off them fort he 10,000th time in 60 minutes. Its embarassing for the players but still we blame one guy on the sideline for bringing on 2 internationals to see out the game. Ridiculous, click baity, muckraking video to name all the faults of those players and then say, but that's all 100% on the manager.
@gunner2636
@gunner2636 4 ай бұрын
That bit with the countdown music and background had me dead on the floor with laughter and im an arsenal fan by the way
@palindromee
@palindromee 4 ай бұрын
my most said line as a united fan is "why are they THERE"
@paweborkowski6959
@paweborkowski6959 4 ай бұрын
Do not think any manager (willing to come to Old Trafford) will do better. I slowly realise that Man Utd is becoming a minor version of Chelsea: any player has a good first season (or half a season) and then the form drops. The club has a bad aura.
@XboneMalone
@XboneMalone 5 ай бұрын
Don't agree with you in full. The players at his disposal change from week to week (what was our back line at the weekend again?). How can anyone be expected to produce consistent results relying on the players left with some of those players clearly not upto it? Maguire won't defend a high line, he AWLAYS retreats (for example). Can't think how spaces open up when your senior defender (apparently a 1st choice for his national side) doesn't stick to the game plan. Martinez out, Shaw missing for large chunks, Mount perma-crocked, Martial the same, Malacia unavailable, Varane susceptible, Sancho throws his toys out the pram, Antony not upto it but fit. McTominay offers little with (look up how many passes he makes per game from centre midfield) and without (see Coventry's 2nd) the ball except a late run when Hojlund's taken the defence the other direction. Then the injury carousel featuring the rest of the defence. Did you miss him instructing Dalot to go forwards and provide an overlap in the first half, just before Dalot ran forwards and provided an overlap and a cross for our first? Dalot then pointed towards ten Hag during/post celebration? The options out there aren't much better, the fact that another manager is experiencing difficulties 2 years on from joining for the 3rd time should tell us all something. But some think a manager controls the minds of the players on the pitch who shit the bed and disregard instructions. I'd rather we keep ten Hag over keeping a lot of the players. I like he's brought in Garnacho and Mainoo. I expect we'll see another one or maybe two next season come up and get chances. I would like to see these players move on: AWB (too prone to errors and not great on the ball) Malacia (better using his spot for a young player earmarked to replace Shaw) Maguire (too slow, not great on the ball, poor communication & awareness, high wages) Varane (injury prone, as good as he is still, high wages, probably off on a free anyway) Lindelof (not gonna be better than an option off the bench, prone to errors) Casemiro (form has fallen from a cliff, still looks off the pace, high wages) McTominay (see 2nd paragraph) Eriksen (offers so much on the ball, but little off, wants to play frequently and won't get that here) Antony (high earner, mentality isn't right, ability for the prem/europe isn't there) Sancho (see Antony) Martial (already gone) At this point we might as well do an Everton/Forest and sell them all on for whatever and spend big take the points deductions.
@syduzzamansyd4530
@syduzzamansyd4530 4 ай бұрын
These people make videos for clicks just like how other news websites fabricating ETH sacking news, what more do you expect from a CoNtEnT cReAtOr? that's why they don't apply for a manager's job.
@judgeshred66
@judgeshred66 4 ай бұрын
Fair points, can’t fault your logic. But does Ten Hag have a responsibility as manager to change his system based on the players he has available due to injuries etc? Feels like he’s forcing too big a step change from 1st season and he doesn’t appear to be flexible on his approach. Surely other managers do mix up the system depending on who’s available week in week out?
@theemotionalremix
@theemotionalremix 4 ай бұрын
Onana Casemiro Mainoo Hojlund Garnacho Antony Most of those players are his. Why can't he do anything with them?
@Zebedee777
@Zebedee777 4 ай бұрын
As an Arsenal fan, I want the old United back. The Wenger vs Ferguson era was elite. I feel like Man U and Arsenal fans love to hate each other, but there’s always respect. I can’t stand Liverpool and City…
@ClintonKimani-l9z
@ClintonKimani-l9z 5 ай бұрын
They lack the right players, it's not TenHag
@Shadowespeon17
@Shadowespeon17 4 ай бұрын
He literally explained why it's a tactical problem
@ClintonKimani-l9z
@ClintonKimani-l9z 4 ай бұрын
Read the caption ' why Man united's biggest problem is Ten Hag'
@hollowimmunity8853
@hollowimmunity8853 4 ай бұрын
100% agree with every point.
@david_fitzmaurice
@david_fitzmaurice 5 ай бұрын
It was also Moyes, Van Gaal, Jose, Ole and now Erik. When is it ever going to be the bad attitude of the players?
@Shadowespeon17
@Shadowespeon17 4 ай бұрын
They're not all the same players for each manager. The problem is deeper than the players because it just affects every player that joins. You can't just keep throwing the players out without finding the root cause of it all.
@harderway8568
@harderway8568 5 ай бұрын
Not exactly. ETH's not doing great, but much bigger problems are the ownership, lack of any structure and some of these players. I think they all need to go, but if they're about to fire ETH and keep most of the players, it simply wouldn't change anything. Glazers gone would be the perfect start.
@GeorgE-yo5yc
@GeorgE-yo5yc 5 ай бұрын
Let's just say that if Man United do not get the maximum points from their next two home matches, against the lowly Sheffield United and Burnley, then Ten Hag must go. Injuries or not. No more excuses.
@danrobinson902
@danrobinson902 5 ай бұрын
After watching that performance, and the ongoing issue of Man U leaving their midfield so exposed, I am excited for the rematch against Newcastle United!!
@asruluveira
@asruluveira 5 ай бұрын
For what cup? I mean newcastle is not utd rivals in any metrics. newcastle is not a small club too. Kinda weird that the toon army act like they are luton or conventry and want to beat utd for their 5 min of fame
@danrobinson902
@danrobinson902 5 ай бұрын
@asruluveira Not a cup, just in general. Newcastle are ahead of Man United in a lot of metrics. But I'm a Newvastlw fan, and that match may be the decider on who gets European football. Exciting times!!
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 4 ай бұрын
Points wise they're really not that bad, but his transfer policy has been crazy
@vaughan1379
@vaughan1379 5 ай бұрын
A guy that does tactics on KZbin says a manager who created one of Ajax’s greatest teams can’t control a game of football 😂 you’re full of yourself, go on and give your CV to United since you’re master at tactics If you actually know the real problems at United you would know the manager and his philosophy is not the problem, with that philosophy he reached 3 finals in 2 seasons with a squad that doesn’t have the capabilities to play that way, it’s bigger than tactics and just putting blame on the manager, this is why I lost respect for you, because clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@ShawnGitahi
@ShawnGitahi 5 ай бұрын
Keep crying,he,ll get fired at the end of the season and van go back to ajax,and btw,ajax have had ucl winning teams🤣that is not even close to their best team of all time and if ur best version as a coach of a team gets bodied by spurs,then it's not that good🤣real were terrible in the league and cups that season,nothing about ajax being that good🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and why could he replicate that season again in his long reign as a manager,and btw,Monaco,Villarreal even bvb right now have reached a ucl semis,did u see city,real going after their managers,🤣he had a golden ajax generation of deligt,dejong etc and bottled vs spurs 🤣
@Mitch-fb1rn
@Mitch-fb1rn 4 ай бұрын
U r obviously paid by eth to do this
@vaughan1379
@vaughan1379 4 ай бұрын
@@Mitch-fb1rn difference is I’ve seen these players disappoint us for years and years, never turning on a manager again!
@Gigity1107
@Gigity1107 5 ай бұрын
Please take this video down till after the season is over. We still have to play them.
@IggyGoesPop666
@IggyGoesPop666 5 ай бұрын
United could be worst as they could still have the one trick negative clown David Moyes as their manager 🤣🤣🤣
@Ingwaz
@Ingwaz 4 ай бұрын
Love the analysis, gamewise it is spot on. What somewhat isn't said is what did you expect ten hag to do? You mentioned that they need to control more games, that's exactly why erkisen has been subbed on. (He could have come on 10 min earlier) Don't you expect the experience of Maguire, Casemiro, Erisksen and Bruno to kill the game at that point. This video seems to insist that Ten Hag keeps telling his players to play this chaotic way even with a 3-0 lead. The only reason he would do that is because the players are incapable of doing that even against an 'on paper' easier opponent. So how can you blame the incapacity/inmaturity of his available players on him?
@alterbridgebrad
@alterbridgebrad 4 ай бұрын
I wish I could force Erik Ten Hag to watch this video and explain himself. I watched that game and came to the same conclusion - it's Ten Hag's fault.
@Xof_D-Dawg_Fox
@Xof_D-Dawg_Fox 5 ай бұрын
The guy thinks he is someone, he is no one, has no vision, was given everything. Even at Ajax, he was lucky he had those players around that did everything for him.
@mrnicewatch8877
@mrnicewatch8877 5 ай бұрын
thank you for expressing our frustration, give him a year with better players , hard working players.
@tombo125
@tombo125 4 ай бұрын
This is a dishonest video. Replace wan bissaka and mctominay and you fix both problems, the real issue is the lack of available players and you know it.
@Musakhan23901
@Musakhan23901 4 ай бұрын
Ole had wan bissaka and mctominay playing every week and we were never this bad
@makei89
@makei89 5 ай бұрын
Good analysis
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 5 ай бұрын
2nd worst coach I have seen in the Prem since 2005. 2nd only to Frank De Boer who had a very similar outlook on the game. These are homeless mans versions of Louis Van Gaal. Outdated dutch philosophy.
@Sparky.07
@Sparky.07 4 ай бұрын
spot on! Just get rid of clueless manager and Antony
@stevegold7307
@stevegold7307 5 ай бұрын
I've been saying this since ten Hag came to United!!... so thank you!!... if you look at United last year they did the same thing!... you can get away with it at times but you'll never win the League or Champions League, guaranteed!!... there are other major problems at United but the way the play is awful in my opinion.... thanks for the video, spot on!!
@Redvil01
@Redvil01 5 ай бұрын
He didn't have the players available that he had last season and that means his team can't keep a 3-0 lead against a championship side. Sure, they were unlucky with AWB's touches twice, but if they had been more compact that wouldn't have happened. You can do that even with Eriksen and Antony as holding midfielders(McTominay could do it last season but now he's a shadow AMC). I wanted to believe in Ten Hag but the lack of tactical directions and adjustments in this game shows that he can only manage when he has the best players available because they manage it for him(Like Varane, Martinez and Shaw).
@mightyredmatt4
@mightyredmatt4 5 ай бұрын
As a a Liverpool fan - please keep him. As a football fan, he has to go.
@Josh2121
@Josh2121 4 ай бұрын
I'd sack him immediately. The argument against playing too organised is that its boring and united want to be an exciting attacking team but they aren't achieving that. The only fans that enjoy watching united are neutrals because its just madness every game. They've got to establish some kind of stability and organisation to enable some more exciting forward play in my opinion.
@mtk3755
@mtk3755 5 ай бұрын
This just shows that its the players more at fault than ten hag.
@jbri1
@jbri1 5 ай бұрын
You sound like an IDF spokesman. How does it show that?
@wr2899
@wr2899 5 ай бұрын
His style of play doesn’t work in the premier league, it doesn’t work with this team. He wasn’t playing this transitional last season and United had more success. He has gone too far too fast with this group of players For me, the killer is the fact that he can see that however is too stubborn to dial it down and change course. It doesn’t matter if his style might work with a perfect group of players, United need a manager who is pragmatic about their ideology.
@Randomaccount9470
@Randomaccount9470 5 ай бұрын
He picked and bought them u mug
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