Why McLaren Are Now SO FAST

[@user-bb6qv]

I think all the drivers from Mclaren, Mercedes and Ferrari will just keep taking points off of each other which will allow Verstappen to win the championship.

[@arnoldmbuthia2687]

How does that even give Verstappen any advantage if he’s going to finish outside the podium while McLaren and the rest get podiums and wins in every race?

[@Tacsponge]

Because he has a 62 point lead. So he Just has to stay within 7 points of lando each race for the rest of The season. which is easier when Ferrari and Merc are also taking points off Lando

[@Jelle-1106]

Russel probably puts his car in the wall at the last lap.

[@IvanProsper]

i expect so too

[@TroystonB]

Agreed. Max will get over the line this year but I think Mclaren will win the constructors. Perez offers nothing.

[@wunkskorks2623]

Piastri has Webber in his ear 24/7. He’s not gonna abide team orders EVER. The pain of “Multi-21” has migrated to mclaren.

[@guneytopal1713]

Doubt it. He is yet to be given a team order. All season we’ve only seen one team order given to and that was Hungary to Lando

[@Alksonix]

​​@@guneytopal1713Do you watch Australian GP? Oscar let Lando through.

[@guneytopal1713]

@@Alksonix on fresher tyres, quicker pace and basically half the race to go. That isn’t a team order, that is saying move aside and don’t unnecessarily slow down your teammate

[@salihbbas]

He just accepted to help Norris

[@valerierodger]

@@guneytopal1713 which is a team order

[@sumerrana6805]

Mclaren want Constructors but keeping Piastri is most important to them WDC is an afterthought

[@Chris-xl6pd]

This

[@elianioriofarrell]

That's because wdc is too big

[@IvanProsper]

it's been nearly 30 years since they won one, so it's very important to them as a team

[@typhoon-7]

​@@elianioriofarrellno. The Constructors championship is bigger for the team. Ken Tyrell, Frank Williams and Ron Dennis all said they didn't really care which of their drivers won the WDC, what matters is that they win the constructors. That's where the money is at. Money talks.

[@leonardomatheus1888]

​@@typhoon-7And all the prestige is from the wdc. No one really cares about the WCC.

[@studiomoris4542]

This is a British point of view, Piastri was right, It s Lando to improve his start

[@IvanProsper]

plenty of races lost on the first lap... even if it's not a crash

[@simonbrown7455]

It's not about being British. Lando has the overall better record and more points in the championship. He has the best chance right now as of any other driver. If he was German this guy would say the exact same thing. The whole video is based on copious amounts of evidence, for and against lando and the teams .

[@aizoz650]

In Monza, Lando clearly didn't defend as if it was Max, nor did he expect Piastri to do that move. However piastri just doing his job since McLaren didn't have the guts to make the hard choice.

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Piastri knew he had to lunge him on the first lap because when the tires warm up, he doesn't have to pace to pass Lando. Lando is beating him in both head to heads but everyone is just hyping him like he's 60 points ahead of Lando

[@IvanProsper]

@@aizoz650 Lando won't make that mistake again

[@tHebUm18]

12:25 What do you mean didn't happen at Monza? Oscar's pass was totally clean, fair, and good racing. Even Lando said it was a good and fair move.

[@IvanProsper]

easy now with the facts

[@trento7183]

Clean but needless. At this stage, Mclaren need to back Norris fully if it wants the WDC. Piastri is too far behind.

[@The_MostHigh]

Piastri will be the No1 driver for Mclaren in 2025, he has all the qualities to be a world champion

[@sdh41]

Oscar's move (where if Lando would have fought back they were going to crash) turned a highly probable 1-2 into a 2-3. With Max finishing just 6th, Norris could have chopped into Max's lead significantly. Trento is right. Piastri is too far behind. Next year is next year - Piastri should be supporting Lando this year.

[@Catcrumbs]

@@The_MostHigh That may well be true. How does that justify pissing away Lando's shot at the 2024 WDC in pursuit of third?

[@willspritchard9061]

"After the incident between Piastri and Norris in Monza..." I think you mean "clean overtake on lap 1".

[@soylentgreen8795]

Piastri: give me space or we crash

[@Eric-rf1is]

@@soylentgreen8795 FIA: Nor HAD to give him space........Pia was ahead. Racing rules when racing. Please keep up.

[@fallenshallrise]

Yes. This is a great channel and I love F1 but if we as fans are going to start calling clean overtakes an "incident" then I mean WTF is the point.

[@karl8805]

​@@soylentgreen8795as he said..clean overtake on lap 1...

[@Nickx32sa2]

​@@soylentgreen8795 you are not the brightest of bulbs are you?

[@Klibabin]

This guy proves that being just a bit British will make you blind and British biased. Lando has to step up to compete with Oscar.

[@alanpassos468]

I don't know about that. The only win Oscar has is because Lando allowed him. Of course Lando has a problem starting the race, but as far as race pace is concerned, I think Lando does a better job, for now.

[@Catcrumbs]

I don't see the bias. How many points should Lando beat Oscar by and how many wins should he gift him before he's worthy of some cooperation from his team-mate?

[@bipolarminddroppings]

You're British, therefore you're biased is not an argument. Its bigotry, if you replaced the word British with Black, would you still say it? Would you tell Lewis Hamilton fans they're all biased because they're black? No you wouldn't. Lando doesn't have to step up to beat Oscar, he's been beating him all season.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

​@@bipolarminddroppingsjust because one is considered socially unacceptable doesn't change the truth of the situation.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

​@alanpassos468 the only reason Lando got ahead was a dumb team strategy. Piastri had better race pace at Monza. The only race Norris truly looked good was Zandvoort. Even Miami he never should have won of it weren't for the safety car picking up Max instead of Norris.

[@nomojo1110]

In a podcast, Coulthard & Jordan both praised Piastri's move. Admittedly, Mark Webber was also present, but EJ would speak up if he'd disagreed. Whatever ones take, calling it an _incident_ is a bit exaggerated.

[@gregroberts6348]

Eddie Jordan cant not speak up in any situation.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

Eddie Jordan would have said the same thing if Webber was there or not, dude is straight as an arrow.

[@bbassfishes8974]

@@gregroberts6348check out the formula for success podcast and that’s not even remotely the case.

[@bjrnchrstn]

@@JustSomeDinosaurPersonagree… would start to think he is Dutch.

[@dell2693]

Yeah completely agree.. an 'incident' wasn't what it was at all. Thought that was a very weird statement. Lesser so tying that to Hungary, yep great that Lando gave the place back in that one, but it was hardly amicable.

[@t288msd]

"Piastri was more agressive than I think was right". Don't agree. It was clean, fair and Lando was too conservative. Its racing

[@simonfuchi6461]

Clean and fair within the rules. I think Norris may have been referencing McLaren's own Papaya rules. If I was Brown I would sit Piastri down and say we are at a point where we need to maximise Norris' points. Next season, both drivers will be free to race and if you get yourself in a similar position, we would expect Norris to do the same. Not bias but simply trying to take the opportunity which has opened up due to the McLaren getting stronger and the Red Bull weaker.

[@DavorZdralo]

@@simonfuchi6461 Oscar would need to be insane to accept that. And with Webber being his manager, I'm 100% certain he has a clause in his contract saying Zac can't make him #2 driver.

[@Bevan1988]

I think that Lando had made the assumption that his team mate wouldn't go for that gap so therefore didn't defend it. Now he knows.

[@abutomtom117]

British cope in full effect. Norris had 53 laps to pass back but couldn’t, took longer to pass Sainz, and made mistakes. Piastri’s pass in turn 4 was the result of Norris making a mistake in T2 (oversteer and off the throttle to catch it). How many WDCs have bottled 7/7 pole positions within the first lap in their career? Since Norris and Piastri have been in equal equipment, Piastri has scored more points. Norris was on tilt trying to pass Verstappen and crashed. Piastri is ice cold and has a reputation for clean passing Norris is no Vettel and Piastri is no Bottas. If you want to ask for it, you need to deserve it. Norris is simply not good enough and doesn’t have the spirit of a WDC. Piastri is and does.

[@timothywalker6465]

Perfection

[@pulkitsukhija]

you said everything that had to be said

[@flat6croc]

Norris does need to improve, but so does Piastri. Bottom line, Norris has more points and has obliterated Piastri in qualifying, currently 12-3 this season I think. Name me another great world champion who has allowed his team mate to totally dominate qualifying like that. Norris is questionable as a WC talent. Piastri is every bit as questionable. of the two, Piastri's qualifying record is hte greatest weakness.

[@abhishekroy910]

@@flat6crocthis is literally piastri’s second season in f1, let alone McLaren

[@willojames9910]

british here and real racing fans know this- only netflix fangirls say otherwise

[@IvanProsper]

Piastri will be #1 soon enough. He has the poise and the mongrel in him to be champion. He's smart too. He's more like a Prost + Jones hybrid and Lando could say whatever he wants, but crashing into Oscar won't help his cause

[@LunnarisLP]

Piastri cant look after his tires and is only doing well on low tire deg tracks. Not saying he cant become a #1 in the future, but right now he is a long shot off. I think he is a decent chunk worse than russell, he is maybe a bit better than tsunoda but that really it. Dont get me wrong he isnt slow by any means, but the only really good move he made was one that depended on his teammate pulling out because he knew that norris was too scared of a DNF. Piastri would quickly look like another Magnussen or Grosjean with his driving right now.

[@mutleyeng]

@@LunnarisLP and yet, Piastri was the only one of the two that at least had a shot at one stopping at Monza. He chose not to, but he was kinder on his tyres than Lando was there. Not sure why people talk about this #1 nonsense though - they already have their contracts and neither is a #1

[@IvanProsper]

@@LunnarisLP I disagree. He did well at Hungary! I expect the tyre management differences now between the 2 are negligible. The only real difference now might be that Lando is possibly more consistent, but only just. That move at Monza was legit and only worked because Lando was tentative, which I doubt he will be again.

[@adambalogh7239]

​@@mutleyeng1 race the whole season. Outlier. Lando is better at tyre deg

[@lazorbheeemz]

congratz, when is the wedding?

[@leviandhiro3596]

British PR is unmatched

[@stefandobre226]

@@Enzoblueblood your mom

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

Also the cope lol

[@evertjan9479]

So are the RESULTS of FERRARI ( ITALIAN PERFECTION) Ferrari Most Grand Prix Victories (constructor) Pos Team Wins 1 Ferrari 246 2 McLaren 186 3 Mercedes 128 4 Red Bull 120 What is the greatest F1 team of all time? Most successful team by championships Position Team Driver Championships 1 Ferrari 15 2 McLaren 12 3 Mercedes 9 4 Williams 7 The results of each race are combined to determine two annual World Championships, one for drivers and one for constructors. Ferrari hold the record for the most Grand Prix victories, having won 246 times. McLaren are second with 186 wins, and Mercedes are third with 128 wins.

[@Quazi-Moto]

You call it PR, another calls it cope, and I call it nationalistic bias.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

@@evertjan9479 When you factor in the length of time they have been in the sport, and the amount of help they used to get, their record is really not that impressive.

[@ua697]

The WDC gap between Verstappen and Norris has increased with nine points since Miami

[@Querientje]

Thats insane concidering that mclaren is the fastest since then

[@PeterTeal77]

Also since then Norris’ gap to Piastri has only increased by 2 points

[@GTAOnlinePlayer69-j2w]

@@Querientjetrue but verstappen will win the drivers I hope so anyway

[@rossfromsa]

Verstappen took Norris out of a race, remember? He scored, Norris didn't.

[@DavorZdralo]

@@rossfromsa Norris took himself out of the race by being crazy impatient, making lounges, and in the end squizeeng Max too hard and fucking his own race.

[@tHebUm18]

Scott is grossly overestimating Lando's ability to outscore Max by 8 points/event for the rest of the season. Even with RB struggling, Max is basically guaranteed to get 6 points/race (2/sprint race) and Merc/Ferrari/Oscar all have pace to prevent Lando from nothing but podiums. Short of a Lando win and Max DNF anomaly, it's going to be really tough for Lando to pull it back. I hope he does, but think Max managed due to all the ball dropping by McLaren so far.

[@rc-fannl7364]

Although at Baku Norris started 15th while Max came from P6, and still Norris ended before Max and easily scored fastest lap, with a 1.3 second gap to the previously best fastest lap. Seems like McLaren has a lot of flex in their wings, still legal maybe, but helping a lot to get fast top end (some cars are slower even with DRS open) an great cornering

[@gogox98]

I understand people saying that mclaren should back Lando, because he has more points. However, usually the driver backed needs to indisputably prove they are the better driver. You need to take Piastri's progress from last year into account. Sure, Lando was dominant in zandvoort, but he has been slower than his team mate multiple times (Spa, Hungary firat 2 stints, Silverstone, Monza, etc). Lewis and Max have been backed by their teams in the past, because they wiped the floors with their team mates. Lando is not doing that.

[@ronald3836]

It is not about who deserves to be #1. It is about what McLaren needs to do to win the WDC. They need to make Lando the #1 for the rest of this season. Next season everything starts from scratch, and Piastri will have the chance to beat Norris.

[@scottnicholls2523]

Couldn't agree more. Norris is a very good driver but McLaren know they have a potential future legend that has demonstrated his selfish hunger this season. If they were to step in while both drivers could mathematically win the championship, that could influence their driver lineup in the very near future. When max leaves RB, I can take a good guess at who they would approach on the current grid to replace him and it won't be Russel or Norris.

[@ronald3836]

@@scottnicholls2523 for whatever reason, Norris has outperformed Piastri this year because he is ahead of him in the championship.. But even Norris is still 62 points behind Max. If Piastri has a brain, he will understand that in this situation there is a good reason to make Norris #1 for the rest of this season. Next year it could be the other way around and Piastri could be made #1 at some point in the season. Or they might both be so far ahread of the rest that there is no need to make a choice. Piastri cannot reasonably require McLaren to fight with 1 hand tied to their back (as they are doing now). [But I'm perfectly fine with more poor decisions by McLaren that would help Max to another title.]

[@SmOgER10]

I think Norris has himself to blame to a good extent. He's playing the nice guy and took the "papaya rules" thing way too literally. If his team-mate is trying a daring move he has every right and absolutely should have to brake late to defend himself, not just stay out of the way and let it go. You need to do some of the talking on the race track as well, not just in a debrief room. Had he forced Piastri to cut the chicane and lose out rather than give him all this room to make the corner and come out on top, he wouldn't have lost the lead AND would have just as many arguments as Piastri for a race debrief later. Instead now it's mentally 1-0 for Piastri and I suppose Norris is gonna try to force the itself team to control Piastri but that's never optimal. Piastri confidence is gonna be through the roof and Norris is making himself second-guess on how to drive.

[@scottnicholls2523]

@@ronald3836 true but the sad thing is even Schumacher in 99 didn't do much to help Irvine. Hamilton didn't help Alonso and the other way around. Webber didn't help vettel. My point is McLaren are only interested in the constructors championship and keeping their star happy. They would be mad not to because at the end of next season max will be putting himself out there, probably to Merc and RB will probably be looking for a top quality driver with a killer instinct and on the current grid, that's Oscar.

[@swagni2159]

Alternate title: Brit weeping about how their golden boy doesn't get free candy from papa Zac.

[@kevinmicallef8798]

The British bias has been strong since Monza. Lando had a poor start and Oscar capitalised. If Lando can’t handle being overtaken, perhaps he should look to hillclimb or time attract events. Lando would get more of my respect if he weren’t so quick to complain and put his woes on everyone else. I’m getting pretty sick of his attitude to be perfectly honest.

[@TheEpicRacer01]

can you come up with something new? calling something British bias is just a dumb meme at this point.

[@kevinmicallef8798]

@@TheEpicRacer01 not when it’s exactly what it is. How else would you describe the biased opinion of British content creators towards a British driver?

[@sergiosantos9418]

​@@kevinmicallef8798 British bias in F1 was very common in Schumacher's days, returned with Vettel and now that there is an English driver with chances of winning the title, returns again

[@davffwatto77]

@@sergiosantos9418 you are correct, there are multiple examples of this, even if there are no brtis in contention they will back anyone against a mainland European, if only the anglophiles knew how much they were detested but then again a tough ask being that they are monolingual

[@MG-tl1hy]

Oh no he supports the driver who represent his country how dare he

[@wexalian]

As a Max/RedBull fan, I'm currently very conflicted on what I think McLaren should do. On one hand, I would say they should definitely use team orders to make sure they beat Max and RedBull in the drivers championship. They're so close to grabbing both WCC en WDC. On the other hand, is a driver who's unable to keep the lead in the first lap worthy of a drivers championship? If Piastri keeps beating Norris in the last few races, wouldn't he be a 'more qualified' drivers champion? In my opinion, a drivers champion should be able to fight for the championship by himself, with only occasional help (think Perez slowing down Hamilton in 2021). Not by letting him pass his teammate with team orders, because he can't fight based on speed. I'd love to hear any other opinions on this :)

[@Issam-od4pg]

@@wexalian I've also been thinking the same when it comes to lando not being championship material. It feels like back when massa was fighting for a championship, like he's a decent driver but other drivers are better just not getting the car they deserve like charles, sainz, hamilton, george and others to name a few. But we shall see how this plays out, personally, i would be surprised if lando doesn't win the championship given the huge performance advantage relative to the other teams but we will see

[@africanpenguin3104]

I couldn’t agree more, Lando isn’t driving like a champion even in the rocketship he is in, he can barely start races properly and doesn’t deserve the WDC if he wins it

[@bokajbokaj]

They are not close on getting the WDC as no one has ever lost this big of a lead. And they are not going to get this WDC because of how average Lando is. He just doesnt have it in him to become the 24 WC. He has 2 wins i dont know why everyone expects him to just win every race, almost as if they think he is MAX. But obviously he isnt Max. So no, i dont think they win WDC but WCC is most probably going to happen.

[@africanpenguin3104]

@@bokajbokaj at this rate, if Lando is having awful races and finishing p3 and max p6 Lando will overtake him sadly

[@dustin_vincent]

Mate, thats some perfect points. The only thing about monza, that annoys me is the thing that Lando kept his lead until t4 and Piastri made a move thats usually not a move you make against your teammate. It was so hard.... what i was asking myself is - what about hungary?! Lando was definitely the faster guy. yes, he lost his lead in turn 1, but when he was in front he increaserd his lead lap by lap. then he got his race engineer telling him "you gonna need oscar. you gonna need the team"... wheres the team now?! this is an easy championship to grab and lando lost now about 20 points due to the team not prioritizing him. 7 in hungary, 10 in monza. i wanna be honest with you, those gonna be crucial points!!! they need to prioritize norris from now on. piastri has no realisitc chance of winning it all this year.

[@MaxVerhaag]

at this point i'd give mclaren a 70-80% chance for the CC and norris at about 20-30% for WDC. they have really turned a page this year and they have deserved this and thats coming from a RBR fan!

[@SmileyXY]

I'd give them at least a 95% chance for CC since they're only 8 points away from taking the lead. Realistically speaking they'll get that in the next 1-2 races and I don't think any of the other teams is consistently good enough to catch them this season.

[@BotsWeekendCovers]

Agreed and I am a RBR fan as well.

[@davis7428]

It’s almost 100% for the CC but I’d give norris like a 50% if McLaren gets their stuff together. If not it’s looking like he wont

[@ctibpo991]

95+% WCC 0.05% WDC

[@tHebUm18]

"70-80% chance for the CC" What are you smoking and can I have some? Even Christian Horner himself wouldn't give RB 20-30% chance of hanging onto the CC and he knows what upgrades are coming. It's clear RB are struggling with development, there's no chance that catch McLaren between now and season's end on overall pace. Do agree that Max is still the favorite to win the WDC though. Lando still has a ton of ground to make up and Merc/Ferrari/Oscar have enough pace to play spoiler to prevent Lando from effortlessly stacking up podiums the rest of the season; averaging 8 points/event over Max will not be easy.

[@stevenst6337]

Norris doesn’t deserve to get special treatment. How many times has he lost the lead on lap 1 in his career and this season? With Oscar being one getting ahead multiple times.

[@juangerardop]

Yes.. he needs to improve his starts... but he has consistently beaten oscar, specially in race pace

[@kenpachi1989]

That's nonsense, every driver fighting for WDC get special treatment form his team unless his title rival is his teammate. Schumacher, Hamilton, Verstappen, they all did, sometimes when it wasn't even needed.

[@strawman3059]

Who are you to say he doesn't deserve it!?

[@samstephenson]

I find myself disagreeing with a lot of the views and especially the comments expressed. The 'Papaya rules' are honestly refreshing and I wish more teams adopted it. If Lando Norris is a deserving world champion then the first person he needs to be beating is his team mate. Until such a time comes that it's no longer possible for Oscar to compete for the WDC I hope McLaren don't start favoring one over the other.

[@jvolney]

totally agree. like when Lewis had to fight his team mates in the past to prove he was the one. Alonso, Button, Rosberg, Russel. if Lando beats Oscar come the end of the season you won't have to ask Oscar to move out the way he just will

[@BR-hj9kp]

This only works when youre a very dominant team/car. Like lewis and rosberg in the turbo hybrid era indeed.

[@kenpachi1989]

Not all teammates are made equal. If Norris had Perez as a teammate and Verstappen had Piastri the WDC standings would look quite a bit different.

[@anameyoucantremember]

@@kenpachi1989 By the end of the season, Norris will be crying he doesn't have Perez as teammate.

[@jvolney]

​@@kenpachi1989 agree-Piastri would definitely be a major challenge for Max. Verstappen might have resorted to his ‘back out or we crash’ tactics much sooner this year. It’s almost certain that we’d be looking at a three-way title fight at this point.

[@seesiedler1]

I am watching this after Interlagos.

[@zippyspeedmonkey]

How Lando acted in Hungary is exactly the reason why Piastri is driving the way he is now. Cause and effect. Lando better get used to it.

[@mintoxace5571]

100% correct mate. After Lando soured Oscar’s first win he’s decided the gloves are off.

[@juangerardop]

Telling the driver who has a better chance at the wdc to give up the win to his teammate is absurd... mclaren is fucking up

[@timothywalker6465]

Bang on

[@andrewhazlewood4569]

@@juangerardop give back not give up. McLaren strategy gave Lando track position he had not earned or deserved.

[@patepulkkinenvtec2403]

​​​​@@andrewhazlewood4569If I was a team principal, I would have started prioritizing Lando already before Hungary. Not because Lando would deserve the title, because he doesn't, or because I wouldn't like Oscar, but simply because you need to maximise your chances at both championships. Telling your best shot at WDC to give up a win just to look good shouldn't be the way to go in f1.

[@Dere-kf6np]

I'm not sure, but you forgot to talk about Maxes and Helmut Marko Comments after the races, saying that the Engineers at Rb didn't believe when Max and Checo said that they will have Balance Issues later this season. It's probably similar to 2014 where the areo and Chassis is perfect and the best off the grid, but this time it's not the Engine but the balance of the car. There is a reason why a lot of people say that the handling of this year's RB20 looks like the Ferrari of 2014 with overundersteer.

[@devopstester6575]

Bro changed the title cause Max is was gonna win in 2024😂

[@michaelcobbin]

This viewpoint is very British. Zak Brown (American) and McLaren team owner, Kingdom of Bahrain, are mainly interested in the Constructors Championship and two top-tier racers that equally compete against each other. Unlike in Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel case, where Red Bull assumed that Vettel would sell more Red Bull cans thus prioritised Vettel, Zak and the McLaren owner are keeping everything equal as possible. Andrea Stella has already seen a situation at Ferrari were making one driver the favourite has hurt the team long-term. As someone else has stated, Oscar has the Alain Prost + Alain Jones mongrel in him and will also fight for wins in the race itself. What Oscar is really good at is keeping it clean when overtaking. The other drivers are starting to respect him because he’s an aggressive and clean driver.

[@simonbrown7455]

@@michaelcobbin nothing to do about being British. We are more critical of ourselves than any other nation.

[@bobkeul7682]

@@simonbrown7455 ye as critical and toxic on Alonso and Max.. right plausible. Remind you Sky is a worldfeed... the world is not dumb. I am not sure if you noticed but most nations think the British are a character in their own theater. Its bloody embarrassing men and becoming a huge laughing stock to the rest of world.

[@Redlingstein]

Piastri and Lando will crash. Piastri only stayed out of trouble in Monza cos Lando saved his own race by backing out… Next time a move by Piastri like that will be a penalty for Piastri and a crash.

[@Redlingstein]

@@simonbrown7455bs 😂😂😂

[@michaelcobbin]

@@Redlingstein Best check the start of the 2018 Italian GP. Vettel played the safe game in second place behind his teammate Kimi Raikkonen when he had the opportunity to overtake. Lewis used the opportunity to use Vettel indecision and overtake him and knocked him out of contention and get the lead on Lap 4. Lando stuffed up in the first chicane and Oscar took the opportunity before Charles did. The problem with your argument is that Oscar is a better overtakes than Lando.

[@ssSwifty-ft3ov]

While Landos pace in Hungary was genuinely quicker then Oscars, his lead wasn't organic and only came about because of the teams ridiculous stratagy. LN might have thought by leaving it to the last moment to readdress he would show who is #1 in the team and scare OP into submission. Unfortunatly what it's actually done is awoken the fire in OP to increase his aggression and focus on track and could have (should have) won 2 of the last 3 races if not for unfortunate team stratagies (hindsight being 20/20). Now im not against team orders to favour one driver once they're a couple races past halfway, but the driver needs to show that they are quicker to justify it. Basically shadowing the teammate, not backing off for a 15sec gap to catch up thing. I do disagree with switching positions if it's for a podium spot though. Hungary scenario probably being one of the few exceptions I can think of because LN's lead wasn't organic but given to him. OP's move in Monza was high risk for sure but he then justified it by going on to be consistently faster then LN the whole race. You can't (shouldn't) ask someone to swap places to favour a driver if they're faster and in a podium position.

[@OriginalTrev]

You honestly believe Lando would threaten Oscar with a deliberate crash?? Lando has the notoriety of being easy to pass on the first lap... Maybe Oscar had already cautioned Lando to hold the pole on the 1st lap or he would be one of the racers to simply drive around him???

[@BR-hj9kp]

Also, lando has more to lose in a crash if he wants to beat max. Not if he just wants to finish the season ahead of oscar though

[@l8k647]

Can’t wait to see Max win the title and I hope you make a video all about how you knew he’d do it all along. It will happen.

[@benische]

If you don't think Stroll is going to freight train to the top and win the title, you're crazy.

[@NotYourEverydayTrav]

This guy is and has always been full of himself a know it all. I can’t stand this content. I only came for the comments section and he’s getting roasted

[@schore69]

2:16 the books in the background look like eric cartman

[@mweishonene8193]

😂😂😂😂 I saw it

[@abhishekroy910]

lol

[@bobcharlotte8724]

Lando will never be world champion. We didn't know his true potential until he had the right car but has repeatedly shown that he is mid. He's his generations Riccardo, will win some now and then but never be champion.

[@MrGForce]

piastri will overtake him before the end of the season

[@BassPlayTV]

Why, is everyone saying "illegal" brakingsystem. If the rules need to be updated, it wasn't illegal (because so many people don't understand it: my point is not about the legal system. If it's against the f1 rules it's illegal in f1. But they had to update the rules to address this brakingsystem, therefore it was not illegal before, otherwise they wouldn't need to update it if it was illegal before)

[@Lazy_Tim]

Became illegal.

[@dnltbrca]

it's the spirit vs the wording of the rule. the spirit was very clear from the beginning: no brake steer. the wording left room for interpretation, and that's what changed. the teams knew it was illegal in spirit, they just exploited the wording.

[@jvolney]

Actually, it is illegal in the sense that winning with a car that breaks the rules is essentially fraud. If a team wins by using a car that violates regulations, they’re gaining an unfair advantage, and that undermines the integrity of the sport. Even if they're not being prosecuted by law, in the sporting world, it’s still cheating. Fixing sporting outcomes like that, even if it’s not a criminal offense, is unethical and damages the credibility of the competition. Just because teams aren’t being held accountable by legal systems doesn’t make it any less illegal in the context of fair play.

[@argantosnl]

​@@dnltbrca this would make both the mclaren and merc frontwings illegal aswell

[@gogox98]

It WAS not illegal, however. It may very well be now, but they are clearly not using it. Every great designer has exploited the wording. I suggest reading Newey's autobiography.

[@name5798]

Why did you change the title from Why Lando will win the championship???

[@andy86i]

He is seething and coping, I was looking for the video too

[@michaelparker2449]

Basically Red Bull did a Brawn... Except Red Bull are certainly not short on money.

[@A2906-o8q]

They are short on budget, Checo ensured that. They are also short in CFD time

[@VV-cy3nw]

Budget cap exists

[@DavidBergman1776]

Did you have a stroke with that title?

[@iliketoast-q9b]

RB fanboy detected

[@bruhnard3391]

​@@iliketoast-q9bI don't think that's what he means

[@iliketoast-q9b]

@@bruhnard3391 Possibly, maybe OP can elaborate

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​@@iliketoast-q9bdelusional team LH/ LN DTS crying fangirl spoted

[@mutleyeng]

What does Mclaren fully backing Norris actually mean? Equal status drivers do not get told to give up their place for the other guy, or don't overtake him. The driver has to agree to do that. I don't think Oscar feels he owes Lando a thing

[@simonfuchi6461]

I suppose it comes down to how much the driver's championship means to the team.

[@nicolasoliveira4903]

​@@simonfuchi6461For the team? It's worth nothing. It's only important for the driver.

[@willhurst]

Assemetrical braking (if they had it) was not illegal until they passed the regulation. So why call it illegal?

[@anameyoucantremember]

Because Bri'ish

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

British Media anti Max and Red bull youtube channel 🤔

[@karlbassett8485]

He was quoting Red Bull. They said they had not used "an illegal" system. Clever wording, because it means they could have had such a system, but it wasn't technically illegal. My conspiracy theory? The reason Max did so much better than Checo for most of the season was that the team only gave the sneaky brake system to Max. They kept it secret from Checo because they were considering replacing him and didn't want him to go to another team and tell them what they were doing. Now that they have had to remove the system Max has fallen back significantly but Checo is doing much the same as he was before.

[@akaraven66]

Illegal now still shows how they made a system that gave an unfair advantage to one team over the rest and why it was made illegal, and it shows, since than Red Bull have dropped off a lot and it's their own fault. Teams should know better than to make a new system that is within the rules, but not legally allowed. Teams that build a car like the Red Bull brakes or the Brawn underfloor and then design the rest of the car around it suffers long term since when those new designs are made illegal and they need to change, it changes the entire handling of the car and makes it undriveable.

[@beemrmem3]

I'm sorry, but there's no way Lando is going to catch Max in the WDC. He isn't as consistent as Max and McLaren is not backing him as the clear number one.

[@raejeann09]

Clear #1 is crazy when the supposed #2 has just as many race wins

[@eliascregard396]

@@raejeann09 Lando has 2 wins, Oscar has 1 win...

[@yaej]

@@eliascregard3961 win plus a sprint race win. but that was last year, take that as you like i guess

[@NeRa101]

​@@yaejAnd Lando with 10 podiums against Oscars 5, with Landos DNF in Austria and 13-3 in qualies. But people after Oscar 2nd places think that Oscar is somehow better driver, guy didn't win, he was 2nd

[@ronald3836]

@@raejeann09 It is not about whether Norris "deserves" to be #1. It is about what McLaren needs to do to win the WDC this season. And the answer is team orders, make Lando #1 for the rest of this season. (Next season is another story.)

[@heinous70]

I saw the headline, and then the time.. and my first thought was, it doesn't take 14 minutes to explain that 😂

[@sulphurous2656]

Englanders on their way to make 15 minute video essays explaining why the driver which doesn't have the fastest car probably won't win the world drivers championship in a sport where having the fastest car is the main determining factor of performance (and the main focus of the championship), part 982024.

[@oldieman730]

Monza... it's very possible that if Oscar had eased off when Lando lost traction, both McLarens would have been swallowed up by Leclerc's Ferrari. So I think Oscar did the best thing for the team.

[@LorenzoCorrado19]

No

[@AntiVaganza]

Except, Lando pushed and lost traction exactly because of the pressure by Oscar. Not defending either of them, just saying they would have come out 1-2 with no Leclerc in the middle had they not raced each other.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

GOOD CALL!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

@@AntiVaganza Except - LeClerc would have passed Oscar

[@abutomtom117]

Norris only had to give up the position after it was gifted to him by the team after they undercut their own leading driver - utterly inexplicable - and then he was plainly slow in giving it up.

[@lc5945]

"Evidence" that was proven wrong by the FIA itself when it stated no team was using that braking system...

[@karlbassett8485]

You really trust the FIA? After the Ferrari fuel flow cover up and secret deal?

[@shortcat]

What is most likely to happen is Lando will not quite catch up to Max and this championship will be forgotten to forever wonder what would happen if orange team concentrated their efforts on the leading driver.

[@neverenoughgames72]

Piastri wont budge. He's by far the mentally stronger one of the pair. Charles and George are better than Lando.

[@PeterTeal77]

No, it will be remembered as Lando fumbling the championship in the fastest car because of mental and racing weakness.

[@doggies.will.be.doggies]

I am a massive Max fan and to me it is very simple. To win the WDC you need the fastest car, say, at least on 80% on the tracks AND be a driver who takes 10-20% more speed out of it compared to your team mate. MAX had that car in 2022-2023, now Lando has that car in 2024. BUT...a big difference: 1) Max NEVER had to rely on team orders to force "Perez" to let him win - because he was always ahead of him. 2) Lando on the other hand is now faced with a certain Australian DEMON called OSCAR..... Just as quick as Lando (being a ROOKIE last season...) but naturally more cool-headed AND seemingly having worked out his main weaknes versus Lando: tire management. When Oscar came aboard as a McLaren rookie last year, Lando surely thought that his 6 season experience cemented him as absolute number 1 and there would be nothing to worry about. But at this point, honestly, do we really KNOW who is the best driver between the two? That must weigh hard on Lando because Oscar sure AF is not taking "2nd driver role".... The fact that McClaren as a team is letting Oscar race Lando still today says enough..._They ALSO want to see who's best......20 million/year Lando or 6 million/year Oscar? In short: if Lando wants to become WDC - which he CAN - he has to do it HIMSELF. Starting by a) toughening up ASAP because Oscar will eat him alive. b) WIN RACES from pole....6 failed tries should be a red flag.

[@CamTooling]

Brit bias is gross. There were no incidents in Monza between Nor and Pia, it’s just serial bottler bottling. I mean what is Pia supposed to do when there’s a wide open gap? Slow down?

[@kevinn1158]

Man I just saw a video of Mclaren's wing "bending" making basically a mini DRS. Their front wing is flattening as well dramatically. I do think Oscar and Lando are top drivers but the FIA need to address the flexi wings for sure.

[@cartillect]

With the way McLaren's 'papaya rules' are going, the drivers will probably end up fighting each other while Max just cruises to another championship anyway. At this rate, he will win the WDC whilst everyone else is fighting for second.

[@johnutz907]

Scott, TYSVM for FLUID JOBS! I am so greatful for the chance to apply as a software engineer at TGR. I could never have imagined that happening. Please continue to apply your capable cranium to other outside the box niche things such as this!

[@gtr485]

If Lando had Piastri’s killer instinct and aggression he’d definitely be a world champion this year but I doubt he will.

[@PizzaDog89]

@@gtr485 If he acted like Piastri he would of taken his free win in Hungary the team botched with the pit strategy then let Oscar plow into him at Monza instead of moving over into the grass so they didn’t wreck both cars. I hope he does put them both out next race so Max keeps his lead and makes Zac Brown look like an idiot.

[@weallfollowmanutd]

Piastri isn't this absolute wonder kid everyone is saying yet. He's still flawed in a lot of ways. He can't save tires well and he'll have races quite often where he's in 4th or 5th stuck behind a Ferrari.

[@Caramelulllll]

@@weallfollowmanutdyeah well you still gotta consider the experience gap, those Ferrari drivers you’re talking about have +5 years of experience each compared to Piastri, Norris has 4 etc. and he’s been in Formula 1 for just a little over a season and a half now, it’s still quite impressive that Norris cannot dominate him race-in race-out as it should’ve happened considering the team has been built mainly around him and all the favorable strategies were given to him until a few races ago, let alone the earlier upgrades on his car compared to Piastri’s, really that’s where the difference of 40 or so points between them two lies

[@weallfollowmanutd]

@@Caramelulllll I agree, however Hamilton was fast immediately, so was Alonso, so where some other rookies that were on the grid in their FIRST season. Piastri is not a rookie

[@Caramelulllll]

@@weallfollowmanutd Hamilton was fast immediately in his rookie season because 1. he has done a lot of testing before-hand with the car, something that you can’t do no more in Formula 1, and 2. the 2007 McLaren was every race weekend on top, even on top of the Ferrari for half a year, since the beginning of the season, all the while Piastri’s only had a race-winning car since Imola this year (he didn’t receive the upgrades Norris received in Miami and he still was clearly ahead of him before the luckiest safety car of the season). You can even argue that the grid right now is MUCH more competitive than how it was in 2007 when you had only 2 teams battling for the WCC and WDC, and realistically speaking only 3 drivers going for the wins that season (you can exclude Massa in that equation even though he won 3 races). Currently you have almost half the grid deserving of the championship material title in the likes of Lewis, Max, Alonso (only if he had a good car…) Charles, George, Oscar, Albon (same issue as Alonso’s), heck, I’d even put Sainz over Lando in this department without questioning

[@urgetodrive]

Nice that the British Unabomber could take a break from writing his manifesto in the shed to talk F1.

[@STORM3SHADOW]

Ultimately, I think Piastri is the more talented driver when their careers are all said and done. He's a future champion. But this year, Zak Brown needs to pull him aside and instruct him to stand down for the better of the team 's chances to win both championships. Next year, it's game on and back to a level playing field. Piastri still has alot of room for improvement with managing tire deg but he's gradually getting better. They need to nip it in the bud before these 2 drivers end up enemies.

[@akaraven66]

Have you forgotten Oscar only started last year and was having issues finishing races without losing chunks of time at the end and this year whilst he has technically won 2, he rightfully showed his dominance in Baku and done that all on his own. And being the leading score getting in the last 8 races, that's just 12 months later, that's not gradual.

[@lunaticgamer75]

Once a wise man said “You want Oscar to be Bottas while Lando is no Hamilton”

[@yebwulebdullah]

Lando will have to consistenly beat Piastri which I can't see happening at this stage. I don't mean he won't ever beat him, I mean he won't every single time, and thats enough.

[@deusmuerte6832]

Another brit make excuses for some other brit just because he is brit not because he's good.

[@EdLau-uh4ie]

The real reason why Max is not doing well this year is he did the Heinken 0.0 commercial. Whichever F1 driver did that commercial get jinxed. Counting back, Daniel Ricciardo, Sergio Perez and now Max. Call it superstitious or coincidence, but it is until it isn't. 😆

[@00Mass00]

The new rear wing and beam wing making most of the difference. In Baku Piastri had 5kph higher topspeed on the straight without DRS. FIA will not change the rules until 2025, So I would love to see RB to introduce flex wings themselves, see if they can keep up.

[@ianransome855]

Piastri is the better driver of the McLaren pair….McLaren have repeatedly shafted him this season in favour of Norris…

[@LorenzoCorrado19]

I'm saving this video. We'll see at the end of the season.

[@Chris-xl6pd]

The big problem now that the rb isnt a rocket ship is that the fact it is so heavily developed around verstappen means perez is literally no where.

[@Triggernlfrl]

A nonexcisting problem is not a problem....

[@pulkitsukhija]

​@@Triggernlfrlit kinda is though, max prefers sensitive cars with oversteer while perez prefers understeer and easy to drive cars

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

LOL

[@thomasdamager]

That stack over Mr. Butcher's shoulder looks like Eric Cartman

[@shipfish-hu8bz]

I am honestly tired of the british bias in f1 media, sadly you disappoint me too, how do you call that a incident it was a clean overtake

[@AhmetTheCalis]

Oscar is the biggest challenge of the Lando's drivers title.

[@thekrishnakumarek]

I think Lando had an advantage over piastri in the beginning because he had all the first upgrades. Additionally, in the Hungary team team made calls to protect Lando they pit him first and undercut Oscar,total mess. On top of this, according to Zack, they are allowed to race, in monza , he had killer overtake, that would never happen if Lando did break early; bit clumsy. In a nutshell Oscar has every right to fight for his championship until he is out of it.

[@SolamenteVees]

I am very much a casual F1 fan but between your on-point analysis and on-screen gravitas, I'm a fan of your channel. Thanks, from the Arizona desert.

[@meme._hoe._8392]

I'm British but I really don't like Lando, ever since Sochi 2021 for me he's come off as entitled and I don't like the way he always acts when he loses out, always blaming himself and never taking it gracefully. I don't believe he's world class material honestly, Piastri is proving to be a much better racer with a better attitude all round. I hope Lando doesn't win this year, and next when they inevitably have the strongest car I'd like it to be Piastri over Lando everyday

[@ericmcmanus5179]

That picture of Max in the sombrero is so funny. Hahahahaha

[@sanandreasgd7148]

I don't think RedBull still has that advantage on top speed. In zandvoort max was 0.5 seconds behind Norris and couldn't overtake him when norris was 0.7 sec a lap earlier. Clearly the McLaren is the fastest car on everything the only difference is the driver

[@jesterlead]

6 cars finished on the lead lap at Singapore and Max was 21 seconds down. Lando had two near-stops on track under green due to missed corners, so even with a 'mediocre' drive he put 2/3 of the field a lap down. It's going to get tight for sure....

[@keesvanr2378]

Why you've changed the title. The original wasn't juicy enough? 🙃

[@tren-y2m]

What was it before? Its "Why Verstappen WON'T Be Champion" rn

[@keesvanr2378]

@tren-y2m It was "Why McLaren are fast and Red Bull are slow", or reversed.

[@ArjanRV24]

Nice video up till the opinion about Norris/Piastri. Really enjoyed the rest of it.

[@radweld]

But, But, But i thought Max could win in any car?

[@duality921]

?

[@jerome8670]

With asymmetric braking system 😊

[@Issam-od4pg]

You thought wrong, max, just like any other great driver does indeed need a fast car to back his skill

[@carobahena6134]

Any car, yes But the RB20 is considered a car just because it has 4 tires.

[@rakesh.a.c]

He won 7 races already and won a couple of races where he didn't have the fastest car. Well guess hating doesn't need facts and logic.

[@jotampa]

Well, Verstappen seems to disagree... Even without winning, he keeps finishing in the top 5, or better. Without a DNF or rather two for Max, no chance for Norris or anyone else, sorry.

[@AllKings]

13:23 😂😂 and if they had a crash, Lando has much more to lose than Oscar. If I were Oscar I'd say, "I don't care, I have nothing to lose and you have a championship to lose" How do you think saying that would help

[@ragerancher]

If only the season since Miami had been how the whole season had been, everything would have been more up for grabs and a nice mix of results. Also I've really liked how Piastri has developed. McLaren going all out to get him looks like a genius move so far.

[@ChuckYuuu]

Mclaren might have the fastest car on pace but look who's winning the last few races

[@iliketoast-q9b]

They will most certainly win the constructor's title.

[@rubbengamer]

@@iliketoast-q9b ye i think the same but the WDC will be a big fight

[@iliketoast-q9b]

@@rubbengamer Oh yes and I'm so looking forward to it.

[@smanqele]

If Red Bull don't find any improvements for the rest of the season I would agree. The key for Max is to keep getting top 5 finishes while Lando, Oscar, Charles, George, Lewis and Carlos exchange successes

[@chrism9069]

Noris NEEDS to fix his first lap. Piastri shouldn’t have to cater to a whiny child that thinks he’s owed wins.

[@iPGRacing]

Thats highly speculative and depending if RB cant find any solutions. They have identified the issue, plus the british merc teams (mcl and merc) have 1 inch flex on their wings. So RB is too much on the safe side of the rules as those 2 teams are clearly exploiting loopholes and load test weaknesses

[@user-pz9xo7tn3x]

1:13 Andreas SIDL????

[@rickdubbink]

Andreas Lidl

[@user-pz9xo7tn3x]

@@rickdubbink Musst ich auch dran denken

[@pascaloschmann8121]

LIDL lohnt sich 😂

[@FirestormX9]

Seed L

[@realdjoffski]

Diesel

[@The_Bookman]

"More than was right" ?!?! Are they racing drivers or are they racing drivers?

[@folu12]

Not gonna lie Driver61 but you need to focus your content on this season from now on. Its SO JUICY and we need EVERY TECHNICAL BREAKDOWN of HOW and WHY the season has panned out like this. Why? Because this is not a surprise. McLarens develop path last season saw the same pace of development and the car they ended last season with was night and day compared to what they started with at the start. And they have done it again but started with a better overall package. Red Bulls drop is also expected. Because of the race deficit they had to their rivals, they always stopped developing the current season car early to start on new years car. With how Red Bull started the season, I don't think they expected to need to develop the car beyond phase 1 of the season if Max keeps being Max. Especially with all the changes happening in the background regarding their engine. BUT BUT BUT, the drama surrounding RedBulll in the first 5 races 100% affected the TEAM. The effects of a team not unified is hard to quantify but the affects are clear to see. They are no longer a "well oiled machine". Mercedes and Ferrari be fighting themselves loool

[@Wafflecombo54]

😴

[@peterb5464]

Variable rear brake bias ?

[@teddysuhrensghost263]

I can’t see why people are so incensed by Piastri overtaking Norris. After all, if McLaren didn’t want them racing competitively they’d have made that clear to both drivers before lights out. The bigger picture is that McLaren are after the constructors trophy first and foremost, and it doesn’t really matter to them which driver has track position over the other. They’re not yet at a point where Piastri is mathematically out of the running for the drivers title, so are in my opinion quite rightly allowing them to race, with the stipulation that they don’t take each other out. In any case, they are probably too late to effectively implement team orders, if they were going to do that they should have done so way earlier in the season, with an established order of lead and supporting driver. I can’t see Piastri wearing the tag of number two driver either btw, as in my opinion he’s far too promising a talent to turn into another barrichello, Coulthard or Perez. Norris hasn’t really shown the consistency of scoring regular big numbers of points, namely wins and seconds, to deserve all the team’s resources being put onto his side of the garage yet. Rosberg in 2016 won his title by hammering out regular high scores of points even when not winning, and making sure he was there or thereabouts to capitalise on any misfortunes from his competitors, such as saving a good points haul in Malaysia after he had several issues in the race and Hamilton retired from the lead with engine failure. Norris has not capitalised on verstappen’s issues and reduced performance in the way he should have. He may very well still pull himself close to verstappen in next two races as the red bull will certainly struggle in Baku and Singapore unless the car is drastically improved. After the next 4 week break it’s anyone’s guess what can happen. If Norris really wants this title he needs to put in two huge performances and get two wins starting next weekend, and hope that everyone else behind has a big dogfight and verstappen comes off worst to reel in the points deficit. Looking very finely poised heading into the later stages of the season in any case

[@Wafflecombo54]

As a RB and Mclaren fan just let the sport be. If McLaren or any other team can take the crown then so be it it’s Motorsport anything can happen

[@mtrps_]

finally a level headed take ✅

[@iliketoast-q9b]

"just let the sport be" What does that even mean? Who said anything about a rule change? You're just fabricating controversy.

[@robywhenthe]

@@iliketoast-q9bno he isn’t lol, he just means that a title battl like this is good for the sport

[@iliketoast-q9b]

@@robywhenthe And where did the video say anything to the contrary? It's entirely descriptive, so why come in with a plea?

[@SlacktivistWeeb]

A lot of people said that the regs failed… I kept saying RB is 1 bad upgrade away from losing their advantage and other teams are 1 great upgrade away from making massive gains. That has now happened.

[@majesty4239]

Where's the upside down f1 project??😔

[@timothywalker6465]

I feel if LN doesn’t end up stealing the WDC, all the poms and team LN will pile shite on OP saying it’s his fault. Which is BS. A least a dozen dropped chances so far this season. I hope OP overtakes LN by seasons end to humiliate the brat.

[@77gravity]

I build parts for some of the F1 teams - I'm not allowed to tell you what parts, or what teams - so I get some inside information. Red Bull are in trouble, they've had problems from the very first on-track testing at the start of the year, and the problems persist even this late in the season. If I was betting, I'd be putting McLaren before Red Bull.

[@foodispriority]

it seems catastrophic for them at the moment it’s very interesting..if you were a betting man who would u bet is winning the wdc?

[@SrbendaNo1]

Rb20 is an unmitigated understeering abomination without the rear brake steer.

[@double10performance27]

„tHe rEd bUlL HaSNnT gOt SlOwEr“ They went from being 1sec a lap faster than 2023 to now being either slower or on paar with 2023.

[@user-ri9dn4vi6i]

It isn't slower, the car just has a very tiny operating window. When they're in that operating window, the car is extremely fast. This is obvious when watching the beginning of the season or qualifying in Austria or Spa. What you see now is what happens when that car goes outside of its operating window, the car becomes unstable, having both under- and oversteer and it becomes unpredictable which is why even Verstappen can't outdrive it.

[@allthegearnoidea6591]

Norris doesn't deserve to win the wdc if he needs Oscars help to do it, it's a drivers championship, he need to be better than everyone on the grid including his teammate. Max has been doing it all solo why can't Norris?

[@AntiVaganza]

Max has been able to do it all solo for two reasons. He is a huge talent, yes but more importantly, he had a car so much faster than anything that he could do it solo. I absolutely promise you that if if the car was not as superior as it has been in recent years, he would have needed Checo as a buffer and once in a while maybe even for a swap. Wait, that's what's happening now... He doesn't have a fast car, nor does he have a fast enough team mate that can protect/help him and guess what, he is bleeding points. So, even mighty Max can't do it solo unless the car is there. I still think he will win it, I just don't see Lando having the consistency and McLaren aren't ruthless enough to favor him. I actually am not sure I would want them to, yet. He is making a few too many mistakes for my taste to be granted that privilege. IF he did everything right and needed a bit of help, then maybe yes.

[@user-ri9dn4vi6i]

@@AntiVaganza That's just wrong. Max and Hamilton were on equal points in Abu Dhabi 2021 with barely any help from Perez during the season and in almost equal cars. Bottas however helped Hamilton quite a lot, especially when he went bowling. The same goes for 2022, he held his own against Leclerc before the RB18 became dominant in Spa. And Lando has a car so much faster than anyone else now so why can't he do it solo? He can't even do a proper race start...

[@AntiVaganza]

​@@user-ri9dn4vi6i Sorry, please refrain from cherry picking your facts. 2021, they were in equal cars late in the season, not early on. Also, I never said Max can't hold his own, I pointed out that you win with talent and a good car. And unless the car is very, very, very good, you rarely win on talent alone. But holding your own and winning a championship easily is another thing and thanks for pointing out that the RB18 did in fact become dominant. Why can't Lando do it solo now? Because he needs about 8 points difference in every race from now on. And even without his lack of consistency that's a very tall order because his car is likely not that good and the RB not that bad for the rest of the season. I don't disagree that Lando drops the ball now and again, but you just showed your cards, mate. You'd like to think Max can do it all solo and anything that that counters that is "just wrong". Then tell me why he didn't win until Merc stopped having dominant cars? Max has indeed done it all solo - that's a fact, Checo has not been needed - but that's not just because of his immense talent but simply also because of how dominant his cars have been. A true Max fan would admit to that. We can keep debating but if you can't stop your cherry picking, I am out of here.

[@user-ri9dn4vi6i]

@@AntiVaganza I never denied that Max has had some dominant cars the last couple of years but even when it's not, he can still show his brilliance. Max obviously didn't win a championship during Merc's dominance but he did win races from time to time and was consistently up there fighting. In 2021 and the first half of 2022, he fought for the championship on his own. Once he got a rocket of a car in RB18 (second half of the season) but especially in the RB19, he probably had the most dominant and consistent F1 run ever. Yes, in order to win a championship you probably need the fastest car, but a brilliant driver still makes all the difference. Lando is now in a position where the Mclaren has been the fastest car for quite a while and the car has very little issues, it's practically perfect at any circuit. While other teams are struggling with the balance of their cars, that Mclaren has a very big operating window. And with all the machinery, what has he genuinely accomplished? Zandvoort was an excellent drive once he got past Max, every other race has been extremely poor. The point is, while the car is obviously important, it certainly isn't everything and Lando has clearly shown that...

[@kenpachi1989]

​@@user-ri9dn4vi6ido your really think Perez isn't helping Verstappen this year? He's helping him by virtue of not having what it takes to finish ahead of him. If Verstappen had Piastri as a teammate (with papaya rules) and Norris had Perez, the WDC standings would look quite a bit different.

[@As-qz5lr]

McLaren are more interested in Piastri feeling good than winning the WDC

[@GARBO96]

Newey left and all of a sudden none of their upgrades wanna work as well why are so few commentators actually making this point yes the wind tunnel stuff also makes a difference but having one of the best engineers suddenly leave your team probably makes a much bigger difference

[@Dere-kf6np]

Well I believe he left because nobody listened to him and the Drivers anymore because they were a bit arrogant probably thinking they're the best anyway and nobody will catch up. McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes gave them an Ice cold bath and a wake-up call. For me, it's shocking

[@bobkeul7682]

Adrian newey didn't design that much of the actual car and floor or on the RB18/19 and now 20. Its actually Wache who is the teamlead not Newey. Fun part is that RB is having a problem with the locking of the suspension. Newey has spent most of his research time on the suspension. In fact he was one of the only people to work on the suspension in Red Bull so that he could prevent the porpoising and other issues that most teams had at the beginning of this new era. That area he worked on seems to be exactly the problem they are having right now... suspension locking over the curbs! Well if Newey did such a great job why is Perez usually 22 seconds behind? So sick of this British media. First praising Lewis to the stars and now its Newey getting all credits, typical British

[@michaellavery4899]

Strangely, the bookmakers were offering 1/3 for Verstappen and 3/1 for Norris before Monza. I'm scared to look at the present odds in case I kick myself.

[@nicholastotoro7721]

Checo kept destroying so many cars, it killed their development budget. That's fairly important.

[@anameyoucantremember]

More important is that you have no clue about how F1 teams manage budgets. Perez has costed Red Bull about 3% of their budget.

[@jonathancollard3710]

Excellent commentary, information and analysis…. 👏🏻👏🏻. Makes such a welcome change from waffle and inflammatory guesses

[@Taffsmanlive]

Probably the most biased commentary on the internet that pretends to be impartial. You really do love Norris but please try to be a journalist, and not an anti-Max conspiracy theorist- I thought you were better than that?

[@Cristti]

Exactly my thought. Telling conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence.

[@rorykeegan1895]

McLaren aren't winning the Divers unless they have some team orders which get obeyed. Unlikely given everyone in the team knows that already but haven't done it. Mind you the Drivers Championship is unimportant, the team earns nothing from the Drivers Championship so they don't value it, its for the punters.

[@MrRodzilla]

i remember when all the british media and fans claimed that schumacher was a cheat, whining about the sport and recommended he lose all his points from the 2002 austrian gp now they demand team orders and have forgot about the sport btw if max wins this title then he did it while having the 4th best car for more than half the season

[@crunchyfrog555]

Frankly, it's not that difficult to see how McLaren's imprvements were basic diligent improvements across the board. Because the results were gradual and consistent. Let's not forget a few years ago around the changing of hands at McLaren, they were back of the field. They were having a pretty torrid time, but since then every year they've carefully made incremental improvements. That's clear hard work and investment paying off. The antithesis of a silver bullet. Whatever McLaren's software and global organization is it's amazingly good, because focusing on certain areas of the car, bringing major upgrades and having them work so consistently is frankly like magix because that so often doesn't work.

[@arsenal10141014]

RB got caught cheating. They removed the parts after being caught.

[@user-ri9dn4vi6i]

Red Bull dropped of far earlier than when the assymetric braking system was clarified and the FIA and Red Bull mechanics have already said that Red Bull did never have such a system. The reason they're slow is because their car has a very tiny operating window because the car can't handle the load of the upgrades. That's why they're either very slow or very fast when the weather changes, they're either in or out of the operating window of that car. When they're out, the car becomes unstable and unpredictable.

[@zanymonster]

Adrian Newey leaving for these reasons is the final nail. RB won't be able to really replace the most talented designer of all time.

[@iliketoast-q9b]

This deification of athletes, designers, engineers,.. is really annoying. Newey is not a magician. However it's evident there are good F1 engineers and bad ones, just like in every other field. "The best engineers on the planet" my ass.

[@divinasi0n]

​​@@iliketoast-q9bAnd just who are you to say Newey is no magician of his field? Do you have familial ties or something? Have you seen him working? Watched from over his shoulder?

[@iliketoast-q9b]

@@divinasi0n Because magic isn't real, duh. You don't believe in Santa Clause now do you?

[@divinasi0n]

@@iliketoast-q9b I said "a magician of his field". Do you take everything people say literally?🤨

[@iliketoast-q9b]

@@divinasi0n You clearly misunderstood my inital comment. He's not a magician as his ideas are not in any way akin to magic, i.e. beyond the understanding of us mere mortals.