Why MESH is the WARMEST Baselayer Possible!

[@TheBearEssentials]

*HERES WHAT I USE:* Tops and bottoms, I use the merino wool mesh primarily: www.brynjeusa.com/product/unisex-long-sleeve-shirt-inlay/ref/4/ For a less expensive option, the synthetic is fantastic. Also a note, this is also incredible for HOT weather. Synthetic's downside is it tends to have an odor compared to wool, but its a minor downside IMO: www.brynjeusa.com/product/unisex-super-thermo-long-sleeve-shirt/ref/4/ My preferred *closed weave baselayer* is generally Merino Wool as well, there's lots out there - many brands make this stuff so you can google search around. I use this Firstlite Kiln top and the zippered bottoms: amzn.to/3MWsGbl My Outer Waterproof Jacker is Outdoor Research but a style they don't make anymore - here's the upgraded 2.0 version: bit.ly/47KC5KR Wiggys also produces mesh, but I don’t find it as good quality at all, so I don’t personally recommend it. - although it is cheaper in price, it’s also only available in nylon, which I find inferior to both the polcolon synthetic and merino brynje versions. Link here: www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/2nd-layer-mesh-long-underwear/ As a disclaimer, I reached out to Brynje to get an affiliate link that helps support my channel instead of taking on random sponsorships to support the channel. I only do this if it’s gear I’ve already owned and thoroughly believe in, and can give my Bear Essentials stamp of approval.

[@TheBearEssentials]

I think i fixed it just now. Let me know, for the closed weave I suggest something with a deep zipper on the chest so you can air out fast when you need it. @@jyutzler

[@BiggMo]

Pin your comment so it stays on top

[@jamiebixby6782]

I have known of brynje for many years now. So good to hear from people who actually understand what they are talking about for a change. Initially when I tried to get some sent to the uk years ago I was met with a puzzled response from brynje but I kept an eye on them and now you can order online, its near the top price you’ll expect to pay for a base layer and is also available in merino wool. I’ve been using it for a while now. I work outside all year in all weathers and I have never found anything that works better. Thank you for bringing some sound knowledge on this subject. Air is your best insulator.

[@TheBearEssentials]

@@BiggMohey Mo, I think it’s pinned now. Sorry I’m brutal with tech sometimes

[@TheBearEssentials]

@@jamiebixby6782so refreshing to hear everyone’s responses and sharing experience with this. I almost never hear it talked about!!! Thank you.

[@magnus4537]

Funny that you mention Norway. One of the items that every conscript gets when they enlist is exactly this, fishnet top and bottoms, and it's used A LOT. At least in northern Norway. It really works like nothing else. I had a 10 km skiing trip during my mandatory service, and used nothing but fishnet and a goretex-type jacket and pants, in -20, no problem what so ever.

[@admacdo]

Yeah, but Norwegians are hardcore cold weather badasses. Don't forget about that.

[@titanbuck7]

​@admacdo this right here.

[@i_know_youre_right_but]

@@admacdocan confirm. The British military go to Norway a lot so their soldiers can learn about cold weather warfare. They are extremely knowledgeable.

[@ChrisWhite.fishing]

tried that and absolutely hated. went back to normal base layer and used the net to clean the machine gun.

[@emjizone]

Basically, it's a structure that separates your insulation from your skin so that water doesn't condense directly on your skin and form a thermal bridge to the outside.

[@TheBearEssentials]

100% right!!

[@TravisTellsTruths]

100%

[@percyfaith11]

Well, more accurately it allows water vapor to escape to the outer layers more easily without soaking the base layer which is against the skin. Sweat does not condense on the skin, it is excreted by the skin and makes the skin damp.

[@SurvivalRussia]

In Russia we use a very coarse weave / heavy thread fishnet against mosquitos. The space between the fishnet and the outer layer makes it impossible for them to reach your skin.

[@steenhornenielsen6352]

net underwear has been used by the Danish army since 1958

[@MlTGLIED]

Oh, hi Lars 😁👋

[@SurvivalRussia]

@MlTGLIED Hello 👋

[@maybebutwhatever]

А вот с сетчатым бельем проблема

[@wallyviper]

In the military we worked with most countries in Europe before the fall of the Berlin wall. All the Scandinavian countries and the Brits used those same items. What did we have... Frickin cotton long johns. Death in the wet cold of Europe before we had Gore Tex items. We would buy those mesh undergarments and used them. They also had waxed jackets and over pants that would go over the wool uniform items. After the fall of the wall we worked in former yougoslavea in the UN. Russians and other countries were using those mesh item then also. My wife who is Russian said that is the norm during the winter. I still have mine, use them to include the mesh commando scarfs. Brilliant kit and great informative Video!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Wow, that is incredible, you sound like a wealth of knowledge and experience. I’d love to sit down and hear stories from a person like you. Just listen and absorb all you have to share!

[@wallyviper]

@@TheBearEssentials learned a lot from those guys. We had a great mix of people. Any time...

[@RCD566]

Back in the 1960's a friend of my Fathers knitted my brother and I, wool mesh undershirts. It has been used as a base layer for a very long time by people who learned the hard way, how to stay warm before modern fibers.

[@ingamanujax8066]

Mesh merino baselayer shirt is likely to be my next knitting project. Does this mean that lace sweaters are warmer than the plain ones when worn underneath some shell?

[@kristenpfalzgraf1353]

A wool mesh undershirt, sounds really uncomfortable. I imagine it would be itchy...?

[@AmazingRebel23]

@@ingamanujax8066 i think according to this theory you want the most air trapped there so it’s not the best but still does the job

[@Eunegin23]

I am looking for one and doing research right now.Probably a Brynje. I came up with it when I remembered my granddad . He was wearing a mesh base layer (when it was still just called undershirt) in winter and I found it strange back then. He obviously knew about the benefits: he was navy veteran and walked through Norway (Narvik) 1940 ).

[@shj2000]

I learned about mesh decades ago, but never saw it for sale. Very interesting and I appreciate you bringing it back to my attention. 👍

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thx a bunch, ya it’s hardly ever advertised.

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

I use brynje mesh for cycling , bikepacking in 3 and 4 season weather and it definitely works . Will often wear a wool or polyester t shirt over the top . If hiking in wet weather the mesh baselayer pants keep the wet trousers away from skin , and it reduces the times u nerd to wear waterproof trousers . So may wear a mesh baselayer pants and a thin polycotton or nylon trouser over the top that dries quickly in 3 plus season weather

[@TheBearEssentials]

Amazing!! Thank you for sharing this!!

[@FriedFreya]

Good to know my gothic wardrobe will be handy for survival scenarios too 🤭

[@TheBearEssentials]

Hahah! Always be prepared

[@martin.feuchtwanger]

Yep. I bought a couple of mesh T-shirts, as fashion items for the night clubs, back in the 80s. They didn't get much wear until just recently when i decided to try them for outdoors activewear. They work very well. I'm usure what their material is -- could be poly-cotton -- but i noticed that in the dryer they dry as quickly as polyester T-shirts.

[@CabCallawayMusic]

Your channel is nothing but absolutely invaluable knowledge and information - thank you!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thank you so so much!

[@jnrfalcon]

Instead of buying from Brynje USA, I bought mine from their Norwegian website. They offer free worldwide shipping for any order above 1500 NOK or a flat 149 NOK for any order below. And you get VAT exemption if you are outside EEA apart from UK. So that's like 20% discount right off the bat. And 1500 NOK is really easy to reach, for better or for worse...

[@Goomba-n3b]

so,... is their website Brynje,Norweigian? or what do u mean order above 1500 NOK/ flat 149NOK for any order below? Really have decided to get one. and am in NC, USA.

[@jnrfalcon]

@Goomba-n3b brynje.no/gb/en they raised free shipping threshold a little bit to 1750 nok. Still not bad

[@steamer2k319]

My ex-wife was into knitting for a while. I theorized that hole-y "Afghan" -style blankets make most sense as an inner layer since they'd form structure around pockets of air while relying on outer layers to seal the pockets. I didn't appreciate the moisture-control aspect until now, though. Thanks for another great video!

[@disbelief3911]

I got a cotton blanket and wondered how it keeps me warm with so much room for air to escape. It really does feel cooler but still gets warm and does it without getting uncomfortable and sweaty.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thx for sharing this!! Ya the old school mesh like they used on Everest in 1953 was basically cotton

[@CoastGord]

Too great to explain! My grandfather wore those exact white mesh undershirts all the time! WW2 vet...tough as nails generattion...built like a bison...thanks for confirming!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Built like a bison, haha! That’s a great term. What a warrior, sounds like a great man. Thank you for sharing.

[@tianmarin-83]

Just dropped by to say how much I appreciate this for focusing on valuable information over endless product plugs. It's a breath of fresh air to see content that encourages us to think before buying, rather than pushing us to accumulate gear we might not need. Cheers for keeping it real and helping us focus on the essence of camping and hiking! 🌲👍

[@TheBearEssentials]

Wow thank you so much for saying this. Trying to be a trustworthy resource to everyone here

[@jenstybring]

I live in the city were Brynje’s main office is. It’s a place called Larvik in sothern part of Norway. Many years ago I stopped by them and explained that I was heading up in the Arctic for work and I needed something warm and reliable since I was going to stay there for many weeks. They kitted me up with mesh and merino. Since then I have sworn by their products. Each Christmas my entire family knows what they will get from me. When you find something that works and is reliable you stick to it.

[@reallybig4868]

Your explanation of layering was easy to follow and while "simple", it doesn't skip on the explanation of how water moves through layers. I've used a mesh shirt as next to skin for a long time but seeing the wool mesh reminds me of an alpha direct hoodie so I'm intrigued enough to buy. It's not an expensive option if the performance is there. We are in the world of $15,000 bicycle frames so it's not a stretch for this shirt. It's awesome seeing companies using more layering theory when it comes to clothing ecosystems instead of a cookie cutter approach where performance is always lost while cost stays high because "features"

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thank you so much. I’d say look into their super thermo, which is the polycolon blend for biking. It’s a bit less expensive too!

[@jussikolehmainen6310]

I found out that synthetic mesh base layer and waffle fleece on top plus really light weight wind jacket is awesome combo for outdoors. For me synthetic feels as it stays drier than merino mesh but haven't tried the really light version of merino mesh. Synthetic one I wore daily in cold time of a year. I use Svalas synthetic mesh and devolds and aclimas merino wool versions. Merino thou feels more fragile compared to synthetic. Great to see mesh undies starts to be more known again and there is more options to pic.

[@nicgrassl5218]

This connected some dots in my mind that I've been confused about for years. I've noticed that, often, just a wool base layer makes me feel colder; especially on my legs. I assumed it had to do with the contact on my skin, and I understood how air=warmth, but never really understood how to raise a base layer away from skin to keep me warm...so I would often just not even wear it. Thanks for the advice!

[@TheBearEssentials]

You’re so welcome, thx for sharing your perspective and story, I’m glad the vid helped ya!

[@stephenwright3501]

Everything you said is true, but mesh can be uncomfortable under straps and belts where it focuses the pressure on your skin. In the sixties and seventies, it was common, but fell out of fashion because it becomes uncomfortable fairly quickly. We wore the shoulders of t-shirts and sashes under belts to prevent this, but other baselayers work well enough and replaced it. That's why it's been hard to find over the last 40 years. Love your channel.

[@frankdewaalirisclazing6501]

The brands mentioned addressed this problem long time ago. I use wool mesh shirts from Aklima in Norwegian winter ski hiking trips. Never had any problem you said.

[@strippingwelsh1]

Both Brynje and Aclima have inserts on shoulders which removes this issue. Also these new mesh shirts are thinner so the issue is much less pronounced.

[@JinKee]

@@strippingwelsh1icebreaker has solid shoulders and kidneys and mesh in the armpits, chest and spine.

[@Swisswoods]

Quite rare to find a good video on mesh, thank you. Have been using for years, mountains here and training up in arctic. Definitely under-rated and less well known. Mesh under with a terry merino base over it is pretty much unbeatable in deep cold (standard issue). Good vid and explanation, thanks. C.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks C ! I couldn’t agree more with the combo. I’m experimenting this winter with a mesh base and then adding more mesh on top. Every 10C drop, one more mesh layer. I’ve heard good things.

[@Swisswoods]

⁠@@TheBearEssentials Hi, Thanks for the reply. Never crossed my mind to try more than one but makes sense. Sounds it should work, be very interested to see how it goes. I got to know the mesh from the swedish arctic guys, out days on end, it really works. Discovered jerven bags the same time also. The Scandi's really know what they are doing. Thanks again.

[@TheBearEssentials]

@@Swisswoodsif you have Instagram, please shoot me a msg there id love to chat. Are you in North America? Where do you get your Jerven bag from if so.

[@Swisswoods]

Hi, Replied but don't see it (?). Sorry, dont have instagram or others, just here. I'm Swiss/Switzerland. The main .no site can send the bags for you, I highly recommend.

[@BlueJadeU]

What was the name of the place that can send the Jerven bags?

[@jackelliott1017]

I’ll need to give this a try, my go to base layer has been merino wool, but my favorite of all time was a thin silk base layer ( so thin you could see through it ) that is no longer made and sadly, being made of silk it finally just wore out.Thanks for all your hard work to bring us these videos

[@therealtastyturnip]

I like the mind blowing effect at the start

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thx!! levelling up my vid skills, my editor is PRO!

[@ChrisFar]

One of the most informative and well produced videos yet!! Gotta get me some fishnets!

[@Strider_Bvlbaha]

Thank you for linking places to buy! I hadn't thought about mesh base layers being an actual thing in other places, but it makes sense now that I know, lol. I figured out a thin mesh--no matter the material--made a surprisingly warm but still fairly adaptive base a few years back, half on accident. I'd bought some nylon mesh pants and shirts to use as a way to keep from getting so many ticks (or at least make it easier to find and remove them); my problem with what I'd been using is a) the static and b) I'm fairly sure they're actually meant to be worn nightclubbing or somesuch and they aren't exactly made of sturdy fabric and c) I'd really rather not wear plastic if I can help it.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Did they work for ticks?? The mesh one I use works well for mosquitos, keeps the sweat off my skin in the summer and with another layer overtop the mozzies are a bit far from my skin so they can’t get at me lol.

[@Strider_Bvlbaha]

@@TheBearEssentials the fine mesh works pretty well for ticks--they just crawl over it. I think they could bite through if they really wanted to but they don't seem to.

[@Pawman1000]

Thanks for such great tips not motivated by adverts and stuff

[@TheBearEssentials]

You are incredible. Thanks for recognizing this. Much appreciated with your donation!!

[@WeatherMan404]

so it basically creates a stand off from your body so your body doesn't get wet just your clothing, but if its really cold wont those clothes freeze, I feel like whether or not you wear this it only helps a little bit cause in that situation you just freeze anyway, but if you ventilate your clothing properly when getting to hot then this type of clothing I see as a benefit

[@DenisSolaro]

I definitely use a net scarf/bandana on my head in the scorching hot summers we have here, in southern Europe. When selecting a cotton one, it does wick in the water and it's still is super breathable, unlike your plain cotton bandana. It's sold as a tactical mesh, but works great to cut off some of the sun. If you fold that bandana into a triangle, you may cut off some of the sun hitting you too. Depending on the material and the space in the net, you may get a better sun attenuation and it will evacuate the sweat much faster, it will dry faster too. But I haven't thought of using it also as a 1st layer. I'll definitely give it a try! thanks for making this video.

[@TheBearEssentials]

That’s great! Honestly really smart. Some of the traditional mesh layers were surprisingly made of cotton and worked very very well.

[@jetblack2602]

In the 90s I had an tank top from Odlo wich was made of lose fit fishnet. It was advertised as an sportshirt or basic insulation layer. The desing was a bit extream for wearing with running in the city, but as an base layer it worked perfectly for me. Very warm without any sweat problem.

[@VishnuZutaten]

I'm using cheap decathlon base - and have a couple of them. What Ive found (surprise...) Is those with lots of vent holes or made of mesh like material are the best. Dry quicker, don't get overly saturated give me the best thermal comfort in diff temperatures. The ones from usual closed fabrics just stay wet. I'm not using them anymore when hiking, only for exercise

[@EsyuDach]

my hammock is made of a 50x10 ft, 2" mesh monofilament gill net. I can wrap it around me, next to my skine several times, and it provides this same function. I can also use it atop my clothing, so as to compact evergreen boughs on the outside of my cammis, with the camo nets and the bugnet suits and dry debris being worn as long johns. In extreme condisions, I also wear the reflective tyvek bivy as a poncho and for REALLY bad stuff, I include the plastic envelope around the bivy. Usually, tho the envelope makes you sweat too much when hiking, Adding the envelope to the bivy when you stop hiking is a huge help as you go about setting up camp getting firewood, etc

[@miker5502]

Epic explanation of how fishnet base layer works..well done. This has been explained by Gerry Cunningham in his short book on the Outdoors and by Jerry at Wiggy’s in Junction Colorado. Wiggy’s actually sells the fishnet as well as Brynjeusa. It really does work! Cheers from Nova Scotia…MikeR.

[@NoLuvJustRespect]

This is amazing!!! This is why I'm on youtube! I'm so excited to order and try one of these! I can't believe I'm JUST now learning about these, Thanks again for another educational video, DJ!!

[@jewelhome1]

I’ve used it backcountry skiing here in BC. Not the most comfortable under straps but it does work. Every other layer I’ve used forms a clammy wet layer. Ordered it from Wiggys in Colorado.

[@tomsitzman3952]

Fish net was first used by fisherman in the North Sea.. They would wrap themselves in their nets to stay warm. The British special ops used fish net in both the First and Second World War. In the past it was made from cotton rope which after time the arm pits rotted out. Today you have three choices, Traditional cotton, Poly pro and a Poly Merino blend. I use the poly blend and haver it on as I type. under a light weight silk sweater. I started wearing cotton fishnet back in the late 60's when REI had the North American rights. Around the time Polu Pry undershirts came out REI gave up their rights to fish net. For years I wore poly pro as my base layer under my wool mid layer and it worked, but not like fish net. A year ago, I found out Brynje brand fish net is now available in the USA and within days was back wearing it. after almost 40 years. It is so comfortable. I sleep in it, bike in it wear it to the store under a sweater. Basically I never comes off. They have three tops, long sleeve, short sleeve and no sleeve. They also have bottoms. If you are an old time and read Colin Fletchers book The Complete Hiker from about 1969 he talked about the virtues of Fish net. He wore it during WWII in the British Army as well as hiking. As you remember from High School Physics, Dead air is a great insulator. The poly pro version should last for years. A great year around version and easy to take care of. My former merino base layer is now my mid layer with my wind shell holding in the warmth, If I need a second mid layer I put my alpaca sweater over the merino instead of sheep wool. The scales on the alpaca fibers are different than the merino scales so they slide over each other without interlocking.

[@NordPrecision]

In the Norwegian army we marched in -20°C with only mesh and a non insulated white camo outer layer When on the move and with a 35kg backpack + gear, that was all we needed to keep warm.

[@MigratoryWhimbrel]

I know next to nothing about layering, but I was still able to understand your presentation clearly. Thank you!

[@bluwtrgypsy]

Always the best info out there. You consistently offer practical and valuable help. Thank you DJ.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks so much, I’m really glad to have a good community and supports around me like yourself. 👊

[@__-pl3jg]

Ok I'm sold. I'll try wearing this under my Yak/marino wool base layer to see if I'm dryer/warmer. Thanks for sharing the idea✌️

[@TheBearEssentials]

You’re very welcome. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised

[@__-pl3jg]

​@@TheBearEssentials- Unfortunately, it looks like Brynje is out of stock of my size shirt. But even if they were in stock, according to the sizing chart they dont make leggings in a 29x32 size so I may have to wait until more manufacturers pick up on this trend. Ah well, I've survived the cold this long 😄. I can wait.

[@CrochetLover85]

Your content is FANTASTIC!❤ I'm definitely going to crochet myself some mesh baselayers! ❤

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thank you!!

[@James225]

This is why they made the waffle pattern base layers. It's like a closed layer weave shirt where you have areas of thicker fabric connected by small channels of really thin fabric. One could almost say that the thinner lines of fabric are a micro mesh because you can see right through it. If you hold this fabric up to the light, you can clearly see through the thinner lines of fabric. These channels provide you with some breathable pockets of air and you get the thicker areas between those channels to wick away sweat AND they have some loft to also hold air and keep you warm. It's the best of both the closed weave base layers and open mesh base layers.

[@stevefranklin6248]

Appreciate the passing on your knowledge! Definitely going to give this a go

[@TheBearEssentials]

Right on Steve, you’ve been right there with me from the start. Thanks for always supporting brother.

[@samnewzealand]

This channel is so awesome I learn more here than I ever did in the army, infantry unit.

[@PraktischTaktisch-Gut]

I didn't even watch 1 sec of this video. Just saw the title and came here to say, I've got the fishnet wool baselayer from ACLIMA or Brynje and it's the best you can get. I love it. Important is, that it is wool or synthetic if you want but never cotton...never ever

[@michaeldumas4907]

best base layers I ever had....it's unreal!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@WillowWalksTheAT]

Great catch on an under appreciated fabric/design amongst US long-distance hikers and US companies. The Norwegians definitely know what they are dong in cold weather!. You might be interested in the mesh-like Alpha Direct fabric (synthetic). Some smaller US hiking cottage companies have started making tops (and bottoms) in AD, which seems to have some of the same properties. Senchi Designs is one of the leaders. Thx for the review

[@danielcgallagher]

This is the first non-short I've seen from this channel. Always excellent content. Not sure if you already have some videos on this topic, but I'd love to see some videos about survival eating, like wild fruits, bugs, and whatnot.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Hey Daniel, sure brother. I don’t have much on that sort of survival eating just yet. Most is sharing knowledge applicable in diff environments. But I’ll move toward that as I continue! Thx for tuning in. -DJ

[@bladerunner110]

Thanks for brining mesh to my attention. Bought the mesh-shirt from brynje and it worked very properly during the first hikes...

[@ericb.4358]

I have the Brynje polypropylene fishnet top and bottom, both with the shoulder and knee flat knit patches to protect from irritation from the fishnet when wearing a pack and kneeling. "Spendy" but worth the money for the "dry" feeling when working hard in cold weather. And worn under a traditional medium weight polyester base layer in very cold weather below 0 F. (-18 C.) you get a LOT of insulation. This combination is especially good on the legs, where bulky insulation is not desirable. BTW, my FIRST fishnet base layer was a Norwegian wool set in the mid '70s. My wife washed it and DESPITE my instructions, threw them the dryer. They came out 5 sizes smaller!! Aaaarrrggghh!

[@alan_yong]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🐟 *Fishnet Mesh Base Layer Introduction* - Introduction to the unconventional idea of using fishnet mesh as a base layer. - Reference to historical use by Sir Edmond Hillary and Tenzing Norgay in the first Everest Summit. 01:11 🧽 *Base Layer Functionality: Moisture Management* - Explanation of how traditional base layers remove sweat to keep the skin dry. - Analogy of sponge and paper towel to illustrate moisture absorption and evaporation. - The importance of staying dry to avoid accelerated cooling, up to 25 times faster with wet clothing. 02:33 🎒 *Mesh Layer for Moisture Transfer* - Introduction to the mesh base layer's open weave design. - Explanation of how the mesh layer transfers sweat instantly to the layer above, keeping the skin dry. - Comparison with traditional base layers and the common issue of sweat accumulation on the back during activities like hiking with a backpack. 03:45 🔍 *Mesh vs. Closed Weave Insulation* - Distinction between insulation in closed weave (traditional) and mesh base layers. - Closed weave traps dead air for insulation, while mesh forms warm air pockets between layers. - Mesh provides four to six times more warmth for the weight compared to closed weave. 04:27 🌬️ *Temperature Regulation with Mesh* - Mesh base layer's ability to regulate body temperature during different activities. - Enhanced air circulation prevents uneven heating, particularly in high-exertion areas like armpits. - Rapid cooling achieved by opening the outer layer to allow fresh air against the skin. 05:09 💡 *Mesh Base Layer Recommendation* - Recommendation to use mesh as a versatile base layer for various activities. - The suggestion to add a closed weave layer for extra insulation during extremely cold conditions or rest periods. - Emphasis on the value of a single mesh set for diverse active states and the absence of sponsorship in the content. Made with HARPA AI

[@audungillerdalen]

Used this for years here In Norway ! The best way to stay warm and dry In any setting

[@Uhnonuhmous]

NFL player Joe Namath use to wear women's panty hose under his uniform as a layer to keep warm in cold weather. Strange changer

[@TheBearEssentials]

I think he was on to something. LOL @ Strangechanger! ahha

[@mikewoo5488]

I had friends in the military that would wear them when running or marching to keep from chafing

[@mkk852]

Do they still sell pantyhose????

[@Mustangs73]

Yes they still sell pantyhose😂

[@jimcy1319]

​@@mikewoo5488did they wear stockings and suspenders on nights out down town. 💃

[@richardhughes7008]

Spot on! Many years ago, I had a set of fishnet underwear that was amazingly warm and comfortable. Eventually, it wore out, and I couldn't find it anywhere (pre-internet days). Now, I'm going to look fot it. Thanks.

[@jonathanlee7355]

That explains the rain pants I bought for my old job. They had a mesh inner liner, never knew why

[@TheBearEssentials]

Oh man that’s awesome. Ya some companies incorporate it in a sly way!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Oh man that’s awesome. Ya some companies incorporate it in a sly way!

[@aslmastertutor1670]

Thank you, I was looking all over for it, and was puzzled why it was so hard to find. Then at the end of your video, you explained it's actually hard to find. No wonder. I'm allergic to wool though...

[@d4mdcykey]

Excellent, thorough work, sir. Your uploads never disappoint. I got turned on to three things a few years ago that has made life and outdoor life WAY more comfortable and pragmatic: Mesh/fishnet layers Microfiber layers Dri-Works layers Depending on the temperature and dampness outside I can mix/match some variation of those three and I will be more cool when it's hot, more warm when it's cold, and more dry if its raining better than anything else I have ever tried, without fail.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Genius! Can you explain the Dri works one, I’m not 100% familiar I don’t think?

[@d4mdcykey]

@@TheBearEssentials It's basically a type of weave/material on some of the clothes from the brand Athletic Works, like a soft and breathable mini honeycomb fabric that keeps air flowing and features DriWorks moisture-wicking technology. I get most of mine off Amazon but Walmart carries the brand as well. They are very reasonable price-wise and is the only thing I wear now in summer because I work outdoors. So far they've held up quite well.

[@BaritoneMonkey]

Just learning about mesh now, but I use DriWorks and love it! Might try using mesh under for running. Can you explain what microfiber is? Is that the same as the closed-loop weave on top of the base layer?

[@dopeymark]

😊 a perfect closed mesh, thin second layer would be silk.

[@mutantmonkey6093]

I Learned This About 5 Years Ago When I Ordered A Mesh Base Layer From Duluth Trading Now Without A Doubt Its By Far My Favorite And Most Worn Base Layer. This Is Good Information And Wonderful Advice!! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙈🙉🙊

[@warrenstanford7240]

I have been using Brynje mesh underwear matched with their merino wool also merino from Woolpower and Icebraker in the Winter to keep dry and warm for several years as I normally sweat heavily even in the cold when working hard.

[@_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_]

Been using Brynje netting for 10 years both in military service and during other activities. it's simply the best, used it in -36 degree Celsius/-32.8 degrees Fahrenheit when on a 110 km mountain skiing trip and in +10 degrees celsius/50 degrees fahrenheit and it works for both! (wool terry cloth over it for the coldest one while stationary) If it's only -15 degrees Celsius/5 degrees Fahrenheit you don't even need another layer on top when being active. (in combination with gotrex shell) Truly an underrated garment for just about any activity. Dries quickly, can be taken off and shaken for leaning most of the dead skin cells if worn for an extended period and it's light weight.

[@RC-qf3mp]

Do you recommend the synthetic or the wool Brynje?

[@sindex]

As they say in Norway (where mesh is used a LOT), "There’s no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes." (although I still think there's a such thing as bad weather)

[@Bikeraq]

I must say the background footage that you took, captures the feel of stock footage so well, it is even a little funny to me

[@kniter]

Big fan of woolnet. Used them for decades here in Norway after being introduced to them as a conscript.

[@DroneLearner]

Just to add a point. As you ascend in height, the boiling point of water decreases. Hence, the higher you go the more water vapour you create in the act of sweating. In 1953 they knew that they would be dripping with sweat at 20000 ft just by standing still. The layer of fishnet was to create a gutter to evacuate the water away from the skin before it froze and therefore to allow the escaped or lost body heat to evaporated that ice layer at no cost to the bodies thermal efficiency. Since the the transition of water to steam requires a volume of about 13000 times the original volume this expansion provided an insulation layer of dry steam between the skin and outer first layer. Ultimately providing an insulating layer

[@CaveSkiSAR]

A synthetic base layer is great if you use a vapor barrier layer in really cold weather. If I need something heavier than a regular weight top over my mesh layer I will often go to a vapor barrier shirt rather than a heavy base layer top. When I am sleeping with a vapor barrier liner the mesh keeps my skin from directly contacting the vapor barrier.

[@BreakingBranches78]

This makes me want to take up knitting again! Mesh is really easy to make and lace weight wool yarn is fairly inexpensive. I could knit myself something way cuter than what I've been using as base layer!

[@tomsitzman3952]

Go for a heavier weight than lace weight. Make the holes 3/8" Go with a fish net weight.

[@TheBearEssentials]

That’s genius!!! I’d buy one please :)

[@jordanjtbraun]

I think you may have just sold me on mesh base layers! Going to go get me some to try out! Thanks!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Right on. I’ve linked a couple in my comments and description. I wear the brynje merino, but I think the superthermo might even be better, and much less expensive. Only thing is it gets an order like any other synthetic would.

[@tc556guy]

I've been testing fishnet as my base layer for the last two months with great results. I use the dual layer Wiggys brand mesh. My only complaint so far is that the mesh isn't made from wool, and the Wiggys brand doesnt have the wool shoulder panels that the Norwegian stuff has. This causes things to be a little more " slippery" as far as pack shoulder straps etc

[@PNWBob]

I first learned of fishnet base layers back in the early 1970s. I had a cotton (!) pair I ordered from REI. I wore it under a wool shirt or wool sweater. Seem to work well. This was before poly propylene base layers came along.

[@davidlindley6454]

Yep, some of the old ideas are still the best. Been a few comments about waffle or grid fleece fabrics. While they work pretty well I've found that if I hand wash these they hold water far more than a plain fabric ( both wringing and drip dry ). If you wash in a machine you wouldn't notice because of spin dry. I guess it's because the grids of fleece aren't connected. Not much of a problem normally but if you fell into water in winter say ...

[@nothingmuch2023]

Brilliant video, thanks! A concise, on point, quality production.

[@maxmadmax8729]

It works very good, i bought first on mesh shirt to test. Now i have 5 for different activities

[@knuckledragger2412]

Definitely want to see any man wearing fishnets at deer camp. Will totally make camp more fun for everyone except maybe him. But my Cabelas arctic base layer is built with this concept as well as my Sitka heavyweight hoody.

[@Toadskin1972]

Same thing the U.S. Navy used in Antarctica in the 60s. Only down side was mesh print on behind from sitting. They even used cotton mesh.

[@boyerkh]

Well done! Its not everyday I learn something new that makes so much sense. 👍

[@lukaskachow]

We use this in the Swedish military. I especially like the fishnet trousers

[@Ostsol]

Interesting. I might have to try this for my bike rides, until summer.

[@RyszardRudy]

I actually saw thick fishnet bottom base layer that was once issued to Russian soldiers long ago, and it didn't felt that counter intuitive, since I always noticed that It's definitely warmer in looser clothes that trap my body heat than tight ones, obviously that fish net under layer was to keep away the outer layer touching the skin and have some space for bode heated air.

[@weston.weston]

Soooo well done ,as usual, DJ.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks Weston, much appreciated. Honestly to do this I had to immense research, wrote a 5000 word blog on everything baselayers, then had to break it all down into 5 minutes in a way that explains the right info but isn’t too complicated or boring lol! I think it worked well. But was a lot haha

[@microsnook3]

I have hyperhydrosis and these have helped

[@arsenalfish21]

Excellent video sir. I am convinced, based on my experience as a trail worker and fire fighter everything you stated was spot on. Any recommended fish net shirt brands?

[@OutdoorAcademyAustralia]

Very informative and well put together video. Nice work.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks for watching, much appreciated brother!

[@Frogboxer]

To keep warm you need a close fitting layer over the mesh [and you can double the mesh layer to increase loft...and expense]....to keep cool a loose fitting layer like a wind smock over the mesh that allows air to flow easily...venting as necessary....you may well feel too cold it works so well.

[@johnathanmacdonald6697]

I find for an all season garment Merino wool, keeps me warm in winter, cool in Summer and more importantly UV protected, That's important in NZ, so one garment all year round, base in winter and outer top in summer, i've only used them up to 38 degrees so above that i don't know if it keeps you cool. the best thing is you don't wash your wool and wool does not carry odours or smell. The multifunctionality of wool is amazing, yes i live on a sheep station. I wear wool all year round, Work , Play and Business.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Kia ora bro! Nice!! Ya completely agree, the merino wool mesh is my fav layer.

[@stigcc]

I use a long sleeved mesh shirt and a mesh boxer from Brynje.

[@KOKO-uu7yd]

I haven't HEARD of it, but I've USED it. Made sense to me then and now 👍 I checked your links, and think i need to save up. This has actually worked pretty well for me with standard "fashion" fishnet layers, but to have a MERINO WOOL one?? 🤩🤩 HEAVEN 🥰🥰 The prices are the challenge, but for anyone else considering this ... I've realized I can purchase one or two peices a year, and won't likely ever need more than a few bottoms and about twice that for tops. Wash gentle and hang dry, and they'll usually last for 10+years. The difference good quality can make is just phenomenal 👍 Happy trails all!😊

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks for sharing this, yeah I think the weaving method takes quote a bit more work than standard stuff. Also Id imagine theyre getting it over from norway or such, not many suppliers here it seems.

[@insanityknows]

As always, your video is great. Nice CG visuals on this one.

[@TYR_001]

I started this video with extreme skepticism. You made it make sense though and now I'm going to give it a go. This video couldn't have come at a better time for an upcoming trip.

[@matthewfleming762]

Thank you for all the info, DJ. I was wondering if you’d be willing to share your physical dimensions and what size Brynje top you’re wearing. Thank you.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Sorry for the late reply! Hmm, I’m 6ft 185lbs, 32 waist, and jeez idk chest. Athletic build. But I wear a Large and it fits perfectly.

[@matthewfleming762]

@@TheBearEssentials I appreciate the feedback! Definitely helped with making a decision toward the Brynje base layer. Thanks again!

[@rogerduffy7744]

many of my cycling base layers are mesh. Worn in summer time with open weave jersey. Or same mesh base layer with a tighter jersey in winter.

[@jaysway2346]

Totally makes sense and I've never heard anyone talk about this until now.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks Jay! Glad to introduce some people to this tech! I found it incredible

[@OscarHikes]

Thanks for sharing this! I ordered one and I'll compare how it performs vs merino and synthetic base layers.

[@gabydewilde]

The whole point of sweat is to cool down. It's suppose to evaporate to do that. When cloths are full of warm sweat it wont work which increases the amount of sweating. It seems a mesh should allow evaporation to work the way it should? Brilliant stuff, I'm sold. Thanks! I go from hot to cold areas many times for work. It is impossible to find the right clothing. Definitely will try this.

[@TheBearEssentials]

You are 100% right in this, I’ve found some of my high tech garments have some type of mesh sometimes built in. But unless those are right against your skin, they won’t be as effective as they could be. That’s why I use the baselayer !

[@Anza_34832]

I’m wearing mesh as a base-layer when cycling or trail running for over 25 years. It’s good for ALL seasons! In the early 2000s mesh was heavily out of fashion, just like 70s disco, and really hard to get.

[@truepaulesko]

This is really interesting. I will definitely try, it makes a lot of sense to me

[@stevenensminger5737]

Thanks for the link dj I love this channel this guy is the man

[@TheBearEssentials]

Anytime Steven, you’re the man 🤘

[@stevenensminger5737]

@@TheBearEssentials I've been a subscriber for a while now I watch all your videos what you teach the outdoor community is just off the wall your outdoors knowledge is right up there with ray mears and company and you explain things so well that's what I think is so important and you seem like a great person to have as a friend witch I consider you as. Keep the videos coming and stay well my friend....

[@TheBearEssentials]

@@stevenensminger5737 Man, I can’t possibly take this compliment. I appreciate it more than you know, and just reading this makes me feel like this whole thing has been so so worth it. Thank you brother, truly.

[@doneins]

Never heard of mesh baselayers before. Thank you very much.

[@TheBearEssentials]

You are very welcome!

[@garryclarke1234]

Here it Britain we used to made to wear string vests when we were kids🙂 thanks for the content

[@amandagamess]

Amazing information that I’ve never heard of until now! Great work!

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thx Zig n Vader 😁

[@jhonyermo]

Colin Fletcher, served six years in the Royal Marine Commandos during World War II, and he mentioned they used it too.

[@TheBearEssentials]

Thanks for sharing this!