Why Michigan Wolverines' loss to Indiana raises questions

[@joemanjbm]

I have been wanting Sheron Moore to play call since Washington.

[@llongone2]

The Wolverines held the most productive offense in college football to 20 points (17 points really). But only scoring 15 points feels more like a coaching failure, specifically at OC.

[@BulletProofSoul1029]

Indiana hasn't beat a ranked team so that's not saying much.

[@stephenlandrum3351]

​@BulletProofSoul1029 and that changes what the OP said?

[@BulletProofSoul1029]

@@stephenlandrum3351 OP?? Anyway, it definitely changes the relevance. It's not like they were doing that against Oregon, Penn State or Ohio State.

[@BuckeyeRad304]

That Ryan Day comparison wild… he had “time” to get Justin Fields… your coaching staff said yall was good they had time they just twiddled their thumbs instead of going ti get someone lol

[@Kemeticthought]

If Michigan shows any signs of improvement, the entire nation will believe there's another Conman Stalions linked to the program. 😂

[@anthonydavis4788]

And people act like they forgot that Harbaugh's offense for most off his time at Michigan was straight trash, especially in the redzone. We need to strip this entire offense and go modern. The sad thing about us Michigan fans is that we tricked ourselves to believe that we can't be physical running a modern offense. That's BS.

[@debrachampagne7715]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha your team stinks

[@jh1603]

Yeah Urbans offense was modern and could rip off 200yd+ rushing games no problem. Power spread at Michigan should be pursued

[@robertjulieannanalett1691]

Yeah Jim Harbaugh let's see his offense work that Stanford beat USC and Pete Carroll went to the 49ers brought a three win team to the Super Bowl twice came to Michigan and were Big Ten champions three consecutive years and a national championship I'd say it worked pretty good but thanks for trying

[@BigBootyJudy1998]

@@debrachampagne7715 Following opposing teams pages to flap your gums is some cuck behavior.

[@luberdoo1950]

@@debrachampagne7715 That's pretty constructive. The offense is horrid, the defense is a good unit, not great, but good. Everything, in my opinion, is correctable. We also need a modern offensive coordinator. If I was a 5-star QB or WR, why would I want to attend the U of M?

[@RCmack]

A few Michigan fans want Indiana coach Curt Cignetti to be the Wolverines next head football coach. To me, it's more likely Iowa State coach Matt Campbell will be the one heading to Ann Arbor.

[@rodrigok1220]

Was a fan of Moore, but he isn’t a head coach. They need to start looking for a better coaching staff. The culture has changed in less than a year. The fact you can’t score twice from inside the 5 with 4 plays says a lot. The last drive was pathetic. It’s like they panicked. Why pass on every down? You had time to work it down the field. I have to admit though, defense played well enough to win that game. Offense and special teams were a letdown.

[@johnnywebb2351]

Agreed 👍🏾 💯

[@jackpackage4278]

Moore is going to get one more year with the class he’s putting together but the only hope for next year at this point is if we hit a home run hire for a new OC, and Moore better fire Kirk the day the season is over or my head will explode, I personally think he should be fired right now but that doesn’t seem like it’ll happen.

[@johnnywebb2351]

@@jackpackage4278 agreed 👍🏾 💯

[@rodrigok1220]

@@jackpackage4278 won’t improve if he doesn’t have a good QB. I figure if they get a big name coach, they could easily pull a QB… I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see them getting a big time QB. Even if Underwood comes, he’d be a freshman.

[@jackpackage4278]

@@rodrigok1220 if we could get Miller Moss from USC that would instantly elevate us. He’s saying Michigan is his top pick to transfer to and during high school recruiting he was Harbaugh’s #1 choice for QB (until we got JJ) and Michigan was his #3 choice. It’s still just rumored but everything lines up.

[@CutFromADifferentCloth7]

Atta boy Connor!!! You guys should definitely watch his interview with Bussin' with the Boys, it's really good, insightful and way better than that Netflix Documentary!

[@barbararobertson8607]

Bryce will stay at LSU very happy with joe slone

[@piecectrleaston3434]

If there offering 10 million how can he reject😊

[@barbararobertson8607]

@piecectrleaston3434 bryce Lsu lock he will not sign with michigan

[@jackpackage4278]

@@barbararobertson8607I’m a Michigan fan and I think you’re right, my gut tells me he stays with LSU.

[@bloomer5844]

LSU ain’t exactly killing it with Bryan Kelly lol. Sloan isn’t going to stay with that dumpster fire in Baton Rouge

[@jackpackage4278]

@@bloomer5844 that is imo Michigan’s best hope of getting him, LSU’s entire coaching staff just blows up lol

[@ericschoonmaker7222]

Campbell is still try to prove that he is smarter than everyone else. I guess he is smarter than the HC, because he hasn't taken over yet.

[@davidhernandez9985]

HBD-Isiah🥳, and much more. This is the last year we will go through this in UM football. Moore has to bounce Wink Martindale and demote Kirk Campbell to QB-C. Get Brian Griese and Larry Foote as defensive and offensive play-callers. Now, finally, UM is getting with NIL, getting all the pieces to have a better season than this one. Especially if we get Bryce Underwood. We can catapult from the 14th-18th recruiting 2025 class to hopefully the 5th-2025 class. Moore is a much better recruiter than Harbaugh, but he could be more skilled at getting Xs and Os. Beacuse if this happens again, "Curt Cignitti" will lighting strikes twice, taking IU back to the NCAA Playoffs. Don't be surprised that the next coaching caretaker at Annarbor? We get-em next year, my brother. Always, GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆!

[@SR-hf3hx]

Michigan's offense hasn't been good since Chad henne. Harbaugh even now with the chargers they aren't lighting the scoreboard up. It was run , play good D be disciplined. I think they gotta scrap everything on offense

[@TonyHawkinsLasVegas702]

So winning isn't enough for you. ✔️

[@executioner1017]

​@TonyHawkinsLasdVegas702 facts XD

[@NicklausMiller]

Literally had the most explosive offense in the country in 2021 and last year the most efficient third down team in the country on he way to the natty. What are you even talking about?

[@SR-hf3hx]

@@NicklausMiller i root for Michigan diehard. They didn't have an explosion on offense in years. They ran the ball a ton, they were the best team in the country. But they grinded people down.

[@NicklausMiller]

@@SR-hf3hx in 2021 they had more explosive plays than any team in the country. They were just all runs so it is way less exciting than slinging the ball all over the yard. I get what you are saying but the stats don't lie.

[@freemanmt1]

Wink Martindale is the only coach I would keep at this point. Sharon Moore needs to go badly. Or get the same result next year.

[@davidhernandez9985]

Could you get Larry Foote as D-C already? Always,GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆!

[@blankname6629]

I’m still out on martindale. The guy thinks that tackling has been a strength for this defense. The play before the game clinching losing play they missed about 3 tackles one of which was in the backfield. The play should have gone for a loss of 3 but turned into a gain of 8 for Indiana because of poor tackling.

[@BrendanTabor]

Please stop backing the Orji experiment. It just flat out ruins drives. Donovan Edwards is not an every down back either. It has been 10 games so I don’t expect any changes. There is no excuse for how bad this offense is. This defense played there butts off. We should be 8-2. That is on the coach and the offensive staff. Davis Warren should have been QB1 all year, and he is also not the problem. He is running for his life on every passing down. Need to come up with some solutions to not ending up 3rd and obvious. Go Blue!

[@otisjohnjr.3023]

Michigan only lacks confidence and leadership. The talent is there.

[@Thethinker6141]

WAS THE CHEATING WORTH IT

[@BenMichigan]

Obviously not since it was a totally useless endeavor. They won a national championship without Stalions, so what was even the point of his legal sign stealing, let alone his illegal advanced scouting scheme? Clearly we would have been better off if Stalions had simply followed all the rules. Then we would still have our title and not have to be in the middle of an NCAA investigation.

[@jeredcarlson4153]

Some help in air quotes. Haha

[@johnquillan4626]

The play calling alone should get people to see that a change is needed and Moore is simply not the guy for the job. Michigan should've won the game! It makes no sense how, week after week, they get down the field inside the 10, and then, call the same running plays up the middle that won't work because they don't have a good line. Zero creativity, instead of oh, I don't know, maybe try at least one play THROWING the damn ball!!!??? Every team and coach in America knows Michigan is going to try (and fail), running it up the middle at the goal line. It's ridiculous!!

[@AY-jy4xf]

lol yall 🗑️, 19 days left ⌛️

[@BenMichigan]

This is very weak emoji game. First of all, I can't even figure out what the first one is. An empty cup? A thimble? I don't get it. But the one I do get I can plainly see is a total misfire. You chose the hourglass that means times up. That's so silly! You say "19 days left" which means we're counting down the time, yet your hourglass is all finished. You need to turn that sucker over, my man! I believe you were looking for this hourglass: ⏳

[@Stuntrooster]

OSU will most likely win and win big. Then you OSU clowns can finally stop crying. We know the last few years have been hard on you.

[@AY-jy4xf]

@@BenMichigan it’s a garbage can , also the emoji for your quarterbacks room. The hourglass is empty bc your playoff hopes are finished . See you on Dec 1

[@BenMichigan]

@@AY-jy4xf Garbage can makes sense. The hourglass, sorry, you messed up. Just like you did on the day of The Game. Dec. 1? Look at a calendar.

[@AY-jy4xf]

@@BenMichigan I won’t be posting on KZbin that day bc I’ll be at The Game . But I will come back the day after to gloat .

[@Darryl-h2p]

What the I and ts that Michigan needs to cross for Bryce

[@ashtonmayer7110]

Fire Campbell or Ward or both.

[@joecrider48]

You most certainly didn't give the IU defense much credit. Interception at the 7 yard line, you get 3 points. That's just one example. Watch the game again! 2 dropped passes by a guy that usually catches anything near him, especially the one late in the 4th quarter would have made this a whole different game. Nevertheless, at least give credit where it's due.

[@rodrigok1220]

@@joecrider48 those IU receivers where a bit scared after 2 of them got laid out. Doesn’t surprise me of the drops.

[@wolver73]

Call me hopelessly old fashioned, but if the only way your quarterback plays on your team is because you put a bunch of money under his nose, don’t expect any more effort than is comfortable.

[@zplapplap]

Yeah, because professional athletes have no pride, put forth minimal effort, and actively resist discomfort. 😄👌🏽

[@phillyphil4824]

only question raised is why didnt Michigan do more in the portal! Indiana hired a coach from 11-2 James Madison who brought 9 of his players with him! 9 players ready to go! NOT FRESHMAN...Indiana brought in 22 players over all! Michigan brought in 6-8 maybe? and lost around 11 players!

[@ashtonmayer7110]

This coaching staff from special teams, OC/QB coach , and RBs coach is awful. Even the RBs have regressed.

[@buckifan5455]

Tried to teal you guys Tony is not a good RB coach.

[@michaelcovrett5254]

Happy belated birthday Sam

[@CutFromADifferentCloth7]

Wrong Show, this is Isaiah Hole. Sam Webb works for The Michigan Insider.

[@jeredcarlson4153]

Just stop with this nonsense. His girlfriend likes sign stealing. This show should be cancelled immediately.

[@Al-Rudigor]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@wolverineeagle]

Sign stealing is legal.

[@Mmmmmk247]

Someone clearly doesn’t know football 😂

[@jimmy5634]

Indiana is in no way an offensive juggernaut. They are a pretender. Mythagain has a very good defense, but they didn’t demonstrate that against real offenses.

[@jimwyatt8386]

Apparently neither is Michigan. 15 points.

[@BenMichigan]

That seems very mean-spirited about the Hoosiers. They have scored a lot of points in all but one game.

[@scott7275]

Jimmy just mad bc Cignetti was right.

[@mattcroddy4691]

Cope harder IU isn't a pretender for crying out loud. They've whipped everyone's ass they've had to play, and had a let down against you guys. Let's be honest the two drops on Sarrat, and pi call on the one hadn't happened....they would've killed Michigan. This is a team of 2&3* star talent @10-0, not a pretender.

[@BenMichigan]

@@mattcroddy4691 Who is coping? The guy who called Michigan "Mythagain"? He's obviously an OSU fan.

[@vaughnwesterby5162]

Do we know if Sherron hasn’t been calling the plays the last few games! OJT ain’t workin! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@davidwright1728]

Hell hire Connor back...

[@Kemeticthought]

But I thought he had nothing to do with the improvement.

[@u00jjsl18]

What's the latest on the potential penalties for the NCAA issues? Are we expecting the full "hammer" to come down, leading all the UM media outlets to apologize or say opps? Or is it looking like there won't be any major penalties, and all these OSU fans living in their moms' basements playing Woodward and Bernstein will go back to playing D&D and shopping for Renfest costumes?

[@Makavalee]

Conner Stalions

[@Jay_Cannon]

14:23 ok right

[@bunjidogg]

Moore can't take over playcalling. He doesn't know passing game. He knows one thing: Harbaugh running game.

[@thatidiot1863]

Yeah one of the best teams in michigan just needed help from a dude who was a dc for the 450th worst team in michigan 😂 My ass

[@Kemeticthought]

Has this podcast been reduced to talking about basketball during football season?🤣🤣🤣 The stink factor is at an all time high!

[@Lucky_Nmbr_S7vn]

Horrendous coaching. Moore needs to fire someone otherwise he's risking his job.

[@donniehenry3192]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Basketball Season it is

[@davids9520]

The offense was great in 2023. Now the same offensive system sucks. Why? Maybe...something has changed? What could it be? It can't be the players. It's the fans! That is it!!!

[@bloomer5844]

The offense doesn’t have a first round quarterback who was the best at third and long in the nation in 2023

[@jamesholden7000]

The boys that won the naddy are gone

[@Mmmmmk247]

The OC doing the exact same system with a completely different offense is just poor coaching

[@RCourt-fz2mr]

Moore is lost. Too much talent wasted.

[@tylerkerestly7072]

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