Why Miles Morales Matters [Spider-Man]

Miles Morales became Spider-Man about a decade ago and has left a profound impact on the Marvel universe. Here's why.
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[@renaissancenerd3801]

“Miles Morales is nearly ten years old” I’M TOO YOUNG TO FEEL OLD DRAKE

[@BlackShadow01-05]

Same

[@mattwo7]

Pft that's nothing, the classic digidestened and Red and Blue from Pokemon being adults now is what makes _me_ feel old

[@spacetacos7574]

Oh shit

[@gordon.sarratt]

same

[@sebination0734]

I’m honestly really glad that Spider-verse came out. It helped to show people how unique of a character Miles Morales is.

[@bigmike69]

Yeah but now there’s a ton a casuals that say they love miles but they only think of spiderverse and whenever you tell them anything about the comic miles that isn’t present in spiderverse, they say oh that’s not miles morales !!

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Yeah.

[@MrExplosion499]

@@bigmike69 to be fair comic miles had a lot of problems that spiderverse and this new game fixed

[@captaincomic8678]

Correction, Spider-Verse *made* Miles a unique character. Before that movie he had all the personality of a sheet of paper.

[@323starlight]

@@captaincomic8678 correct. He was basically just Peter Parker 2.0 in the comics. Plus his relationship with his uncle was more....abusive in the comics.

[@OwenLikesComics]

As someone that was reading Ultimate Spider-Man at the time Miles was created, I genuinely think he's one of (if not the) best new Marvel characters in decades. He carries with him everything that Peter was to teenagers and young adults back in the 60/70/80s, whilst also being a great representation of his culture and heritage.

[@heyyitssvio]

^^^^^^

[@Leviathan_Art]

The hate comments at the time for a fictional character was unreal

[@Vegitodraws]

Oh hai Owen. I'm a sub

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Ye.

[@SuperMcSteel]

Happy to see Owen here

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Miles' game gets released. *All the comic book KZbinrs in my recommendations:* _"Hey."_

[@ComicDrake]

Holy shit, I finally get a Just Some Guy with a Mustache comment. :O

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@ComicDrake Wait, you know me? I am honored, good sir. Expect many more!

[@nathanmason7044]

@@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache yeah I’ve seen you a lot too ur kinda famous you know

[@nicogarcia3020]

yeah you kinda are famous in comment sections now

[@iciest.icy.n.icy.rice.1]

**insert Hayasaka saying "hey, hey!" meme**

[@mister.stealyobitch8660]

I love the idea that Spider-Man can represent other interests: Peter (Science) Miles (Art) and Gwen (Music) and still have other character traits Just another thing Spiderverse did well

[@marcosaquino9485]

Spider Gwen shouldn't exist lol, even Miles, the real sucessor of Peter Parker as Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara

[@DevVy-WeVvy]

@@marcosaquino9485 how come?

[@jaysanders1347]

@@DevVy-WeVvy yo what's dude talking about lol

[@DevVy-WeVvy]

@@jaysanders1347 I have no idea bro lol

[@goncalofernandes1432]

@@marcosaquino9485 different universes my guy

[@BboyStunna]

Great job on the video. Quality work

[@hydron3299]

Reading the first few comics back in 2011-2012 and remembering me saying "hey that's me!" As a black kid growing up in queens and new york make me aknowledge how big of an impact seeing yourself in media is

[@demonteprice5870]

Despite my problems with early Miles Morales (in retrospect) I remember the first time I saw a picture of the character when I was nine and having that *exact* same feeling, I really felt like I was Spider-Man.

[@hydron3299]

@@demonteprice5870 Exactly! That was life changing

[@Monotail_Razuin]

That's honestly how I felt when seeing Miles was Puerto Rican

[@staple_boi]

That's cool but isn't that tokenism like I have no Spidey to identify with but I still wanted to be a Spider-Man and to some extent still kinda do like there is no part Hawaiian, part black, part Chinese & Japanese, part belizean 19 year old spider that lives in LA (I literally have no idea what 🤷🏻‍♂️ I should use because none of them look like me so I'm just gonna use this one) 🤷🏻‍♂️ I guess that's fine as a kid but grown up and still seeing that fact about miles being like you is kinda weird. Character over skin color because I'll never have a spider that's like me and that's ok.

[@hydron3299]

@@staple_boi i dont think miles is a token cause his character isnt just him being black and if anything its a small part of the overall message of his story about legacy and the fear of messing up what was already built he just happens to be black and latino. And aside from the skin color and the place of origin i share a lot in similarities with the overall story like getting into charter school, strained connection with family and just fear of bigger expectations than i felt were necessary for me but i latched onto him not just because he was black cause originally i could have a similar stand in with peter and his stories but miles' resonated with me better, not because hes black but because it just so happens that hos stories tell something i can relate to in experience. Of course you arent going to find a 1 to 1 character unless you're one specific race/nationality but if theres an experience that you feel you can vibe with then I think thats also its own representation.

[@demitriosparsonswoodson8621]

As someone who is Afro-Latino seeing Miles become so popular is exciting and makes me happy see a character like him.

[@TevyaSmolka]

That’s what I’ve been saying for years about miles morales Spider-Man could be the teenager Spider-Man while peter Parker Spider-Man could be the adult and get remarried to his wife Mary Jane and he had his daughter while miles picks up where he left off and boom problem solved everybody wins.

[@professorescanor7310]

Exactly. Peter grows up, and moves on leaving someone he trusts in the role. We watch Miles grow and by then when he is ready to grow up and move on maybe Mayday or Annie takes over. We don't need to keep seeing Peter repeat the same events. We need to see different people living through similar ones and growing

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@professorescanor7310 indeed and in fact that's what i've been saying for a very long time that its time for peter parker to grow up and have him become a father and a great husband he used to be with his wife mary jane by his side and he has his daughter mayday parker spider-girl and annie and benjy alive and kicking and having peter's daughters and son picking up where their father left off would be fantastic plus a bonus having miles morales teach peter's kids would be fantastic and tons of fun in my opinion.

[@illbadger2076]

@@TevyaSmolka I think they can do it like the renew your vows storyline. Peter and MJ can get married and have a kid. Peter and miles can still be Spider-Man( maybe have a storyline were Peter takes a break for the baby.)

[@kryptonianotaku4975]

Didn’t they kinda did that when Ben Reilly took over as Spider-Man in the 90s? I’m not saying that’s a bad idea but correct me if I’m wrong

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@kryptonianotaku4975 they did and your not entirely wrong.

[@professorescanor7310]

I've always liked Miles but Spider-verse was the first time he actually felt different. Unique from Peter. I liked it so much that I'm kinda mad they brought him over to the main continuity. It just feels a little off having Miles who basically earned the Spider-man name exist in the same world as Peter who isn't dead and is still swinging. Don't get me wrong. i am a sucker for Peter mentoring Miles especially when you know his children don't exist in that continuity making it feel more personal. But i feel Miles works best alone. Taking Nightwing as an example, he was Robin, he would eventually become Batman. He wasn't a fan of the idea because it wasn't him. Nor didn he want to be Robin when he saw his brother's literally fitting his shoes. i want Miles to be different from Peter. The same way Miss Marvel is different from Carol (Although in that case they have different names). They've tried calling him Kid Arachnid , Spy-D and more but it didn't stick. If you aren't gonna make Miles Spider-man. A man who earned the name, then make him Miles, Hell have him take up the name of the Prowler if it means he can redeem his Uncle, have him make new suits, just dont have him and Peter as Spidey at the same time. Call him tarantula if you want. Like how Miguel O'HAra is to always be Spidey in the distant future, let Miles be the Spidey that takes over when Peter retires. Till then have him be who he is, then when the time comes have him embrace the mantle and do it his way. In my ideal marvel universe. Peter retires after he finishes training Miles. Miles then becomes not a better spider-man but a different one. He becomes his version of spider-man. He by nature is different to Peter. He already earned the name once, him gaining it again would be when he is finally confident in his abilities. To be like his hero. Of course I always pictured him helping out with baby May and eventually training her to sue her powers like Peter did for him (because we all know Peter would go out in a final fight as selflessly as possible) . Maybe he retires just as May starts and the cycle ends with Mayday now older training Miguel . i'll admit i identify more with peter, as a nerdy kid who was bullied but i'd be lying if i said parts of Miles aren't endearing. I'm all for representation but only if it is done right. No tokenism . I feel a bunch of the recent examples have been bad but others like Miles and Kamala are done well and should be further explored. I'm not a fan of killing someone off just to make their successor diverse. Probably why Riri left a bad taste in my mouth. But even she grew on me. Once she proved she wasn't ironman but her own character. No one should be a hallow shell of their predecessor. Miles shouldn't be a skin for Peter and riri shouldn't for Tony. They should be different, unique. Looking at DC i could tell you what makes every Flash or Batfamily member different, What they like, what they hate, who they are. That is what Marvel should do. If they want a Spider family of sorts or something, they shoudln't be copy pasted. They should all be themselves. Ultimate Miles was different but he still felt too samey. Movie Miles felt way different, not just to Peter B. But to Blond Peter from earlier in the movie. Part of that is because he wasn't spiderman for long but part of that is who he is. You are right, different experiences make different people. Someone who has experienced prejudice may want to take more steps to preventing that from happening, someone who was hurt badly by something would want to make sure no one is hurt again. Magneto is admittedly an extremist but his heart is in the right place. He saw what power could do and now he wants what he couldn't have. Charles on the other hand didn't experience that, he is more optimistic and in some instances more naive to someone's intentions as shown in First Class, then there is Logan who doesn't even know who he is and thus has to form who he is from his decisions. Everyone is different. You shouldn't see Riri or Miles as replacements, you should see them as other people, people like their predecessors but with different views Miles has different strengths both literally and figuratively then Peter. He ain't as smart but he is probably more down to earth. He isn't crippled with the obsession of responsibility at all cost yet he chooses to act to help others. Spider Geddon did many things but contrasting him with Otto who doesn't even view him as notable when compared to Peter was great, Miles struggled to lead against and with a smarter adversary. He ain't Doc Ock Smart. Yet it was his plan that won and they managed to come to a conclusion that didn't result in killing. Could Peter have done that? Hell yeah but it wouldn't have panned out the same. Alliances would have been formed. If Spiderverse was Peter vs Otto, then SpiderGeddon was Miles Vs Otto. With the sequel to that being a confusing mess honestly that doesn't make much sense at least to me. I want more stories of Miles' future. SPider-man:Life Story Showed a world where Miles came to be when Peter was already an old man. We never see Miles once he embraces being the only Spidey but it shows his pain in what Otto did to him. i'd love to see his take on it all. Great Video as Always Drake. God you deserve more subs

[@Martiancookiehunter365]

Honestly I prefer having them both then fans of peter like myself can have stories with him and fans of Miles can have stories with him if peter just stopped being Spider-Man there would be Backlash just look at All new all different marvel they Replaced nearly all of their most popular characters with new characters taking up the mantle and people were pissed including myself tbh I would much prefer If we could have our cake and eat it too

[@TheAzulmagia]

I like Spider-Man: Life Story's take on it, where Miles becomes Spider-Man after Peter is an old man.

[@GoliathWarfare]

To me, Miles is just as much Spider-Man as Wally West is the Flash and Hal Jordan is Green Lantern. Even though Barry Allen and Allen Scott originated those roles, they were succeeded by some great legacy characters. It is better when Miles is a solo Spider-Man, but them working as partners creates interesting new stories for both of them.

[@Martiancookiehunter365]

@@GoliathWarfare Barry wasn't the first Flash it was Jay Garrick who was the first

[@kerrymurphy6990]

Miles is better than Peter ever was

[@arachnidcomics6404]

As a Hispanic guy who grew up in a household where we all spoke (ya guessed it) spanish and seeing the home and neighborhood as well as the struggles that Spider Verse Miles went through, I honestly found myself relating with him a lot more than I ever did with Peter. Now as an adult, I relate with Peter Parker due to also being a broke college kid and having to deal with adulthood as well as greater responsibilities that come with it. And while I will always love the OG as he's one of my 3 favorite characters in all of fiction, I love it that I can relate to another character who carries his legacy and is a completely different person who is tied more to the culture and language I grew up in. It might sound pretentious, but hey. What can ya really do?

[@EdslilNeko]

Honestly, I've always had some issues with modern interpretations of Peter Parker. Back in the day, sure, being a geeky, kinda socially awkward dork would cause you genuine strife, you'd be bullied and you wouldn't be looked at as an ideal by any stretch. But being a nerd doesn't make you an outsider anymore, it's the norm. Sure, being a literal genius would be a little different, but it's unlikely you would achieve full on outsider status if you were an otherwise pretty average dude the way Peter is. He's not unattractive, he's reasonably funny and nice and there's literally no reason why someone looking at him would think of him as abnormal. He's not an underdog anymore, and that was meant to be a big part of the fantasy. An underdog who gains the power to be a hero, and keeps on being a hero even when he continues to be looked at as an outsider. Miles works because he does fit that outsider archetype, and they emphasized that in Into the Spiderverse. I think that's why it resonated, even beyond the implications of drawing on more of Miles' heritage and fleshing out his personality, they made him fit where Peter Parker no longer does. He's an underdog we want to root for and see ourselves in when we are feeling like underdogs. The fact that he also happens to represent people that Peter couldn't? Bonus!

[@staple_boi]

Miles can't represent me either neither can Peter that's not why I root for Peter or Miles to some extent. Perfect example are from Spider-Man 2 or Homecoming both having to pull of extreme feats selflessness and strength especially Tom's performance when trying to lift the ruble off of him I was rooting for him(inside my head I was rooting for Spidey like a I was 9 when I was 15-16 when homecoming came out) because that's his new thing to overcome the thing that makes Peter an underdog again is his villains.

[@EdslilNeko]

@@staple_boi You just skimmed my comment, huh? Also, check my profile pic, I'm clearly white and female, he doesn't represent me either. That wasn't the point of my comment at all.

[@TheCreepypro]

as a person of color I do like Miles even though I don't personally identify with him that being said when I do look at Miles I see a lot of guys I did grow up with and that combined with how well written he was in spiderverse did help me feel like I knew the guy so that was super nice to experience for a change

[@stoopidlyrich_5182]

I love love love the student mentor relationship, as a kid I always wanted Pete to have his very own robin, and miles fits it perfectly, he’s very humble when he makes a mistake and Pete corrects him it’s like it burned in the back of miles skull and he learns from it. These two characters a dynamic duo

[@dasaiyantv8483]

I see Miles Morales as the Dick Grayson of the Marvel universe.

[@fellowspacemarine]

That's a pretty good comparison actually

[@LuxrayLloyd]

he's better IMO

[@b_warsame]

Me to

[@dasaiyantv8483]

@@LuxrayLloyd Eh, Miles doesn't have the 80 years of comic history that Dick Grayson has as Robin, Nightwing, and even Batman. Miles is definitely amazing though.

[@LuxrayLloyd]

@@dasaiyantv8483 VERY TRUE, but I didn't grow up reading the comics :/

[@alessandrolamera8857]

I slightly disagree with one of your takes. True background and heritage of a character are really important regarding his motivations and PART of his personality, but you have to remember that the character is not only his heritage. If you focus only on that aspect you can turn him into just another token.

[@RuffWarl0ck]

That was what I was about to bring up. Having TOO MUCH Foreground Representation kinda just loops back around to Tokenism and makes your character one-note and trope-ish again. Focusing too much on a single archetype only serves to detract from the potential depth of your character. There is a fine line to a lot of this.

[@alessandrolamera8857]

Nathan Lemuel then in the end, the exposure to this kind of thing can create 2 different results. 1) doubt for every kind of representation, including Foreground representation because it’s mistaken as tokenism, even if there is no tokenism in that particular product. The other is 2) complete acceptance of every single tipe of representation, including tokenism mistaken as foreground representation. Both are extreme opposite and both are equally bad.

[@clutchcake7717]

That is All new All Different marvel in a nutshell. Miles also would have became that if not for spiderverse and the two games he's in.

[@garenthal9638]

@@alessandrolamera8857 it is usually obvious when the foreground is a different style of tokenism and it usually comes down to bad writing. Having the diverse character speak in a stereotypically heavy accent and doing one liners is an example of what I mean. You’re bringing the culture to the front yes but they aren’t even a formed person, just a characature. The trick is to not give a damn when people call good diversity tokenism

[@tariqthomas9090]

The trick is to have *true* racial diversity in the writer’s room. It is ENTIRELY okay and at times rewarding to write a great character that is not the same heritage, but having someone who is of that heritage involved in the process tends to make the character and story a lot more authentic. ITSV is a good example of this.

[@MaxWelton]

4:40 the lack of subtlety is extra funny because Dickens’ “Great Expectations” isn’t about…high expectations. The title uses “expectations” to mean “wealth that is expected to be inherited [by someone],” which was a commonly used sense of the word in Dickens’ day.

[@superlol178]

Miles from the comics is so boring... I like how the Spider-verse gave him a more unique personality...

[@arjunjupally9674]

Agreed

[@viridityone3106]

He's got a lot more style in his 2020 run

[@sawkchalk6966]

I'm also warming up to Insomniacs take on the character

[@teo-pc8yx]

@@arjunjupally9674 yep

[@kryptonianotaku4975]

I agree

[@andergarcia4953]

I wish miles had a bigger rogues gallery.

[@bluryder4186]

True, but also The Assessor is in my opinion one of the most genuinely and viscerally horrifying villains in all of Marvel Comics, so he's got that going for him.

[@Spyke7ful]

I made a comment about his villains just a minute ago and was gonna add this in but didn't. But Miles is still a pretty new character to Marvel, being only almost 10 years old. Give him time, his gallery will grow

[@raelynn2773]

This was a great video! I've loved Miles since his introduction, but I have to say seeing him in Into the Spider-verse brought him so much more to life! It's my all time favorite Spider-Man movie.

[@LuxrayLloyd]

Remember when he was called Kid Arachnid for a series? That was neat

[@hrishiv27]

I used to dislike it, but it grew on me.

[@sonicsaiyan07]

I actually still like that name despite not liking where it came from

[@LuxrayLloyd]

@@sonicsaiyan07 the Spiderman series?

[@LuxrayLloyd]

@@hrishiv27 same

[@sonicsaiyan07]

@@LuxrayLloyd The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon

[@XachWasTaken]

This is a very wholesome and optimistic vid drake wish more of the comic community especially on KZbin would be this uplifting a lot of channels feel like they are fueled by hate

[@lukestarkiller441]

Miles was definitely my favorite part of Spiderverse. I feel like that movie really did distingue him from the other versions, and where he finally became his own recognizable character.

[@icedcapplord710]

I'll be honest. When Miles was introduced I really thought nothing of him, but I retroactively realize Bendis didn't write him in a way that gave him a unique identity that contrasted Peter Parker himself. All of the media that's come since then has done a way better job of fleshing him out and he's now one of my favorite newer Marvel characters from this past decade alongside Kamala Khan

[@meckleyprops2902]

As a kid I was never really able to understand Spider-Man so it was always on my back burner but before into the spiderverse came out my then 5 year old son told me he wanted Spider-Man comics I having the mindset that Peter was too old bought him miles comics. My experience with reading them with my son was exactly what I was looking for when I was young, and it has helped me explain how important honor and respect for all people is.

[@pinkpowercoin3341]

Miles is my favorite of the spider people by a huge margin. Love the character and i devour most media that features him. He's similar enough to Peter that the transition wasn't too jarring, but also different enough to where he didnt feel like a carbon copy. Probably one of, if not the best new character Marvel as introduced this past decade (especially in terms of a legacy character).

[@kerrymurphy6990]

Miles beats Peter in everyway, Parker sucks compared to Morales

[@ironmaidenjr.8471]

Biggest take away here: Bendis sucks. Like seriously. Stop letting him write Moon Knight.

[@henryjenkins2839]

Stop letting Bendis write ANYTHING! He’s way past his prime and need’s to retire ASAP.

[@DoctorMinjinx]

Miles is such a great character. Quickly became one of my all time favorites.

[@ultimatebob9062]

The original Miles Morales run is what actually got me invested into comics, I would read them every once in a while but it wouldn't be anymore than I like action scenes but Miles actually made me care about the characters under their masks. My only problem with Miles originally was that he had no hobbies or things he did outside of superheroing. I'm glad the game and movie made him really care about music and the current run made him a sneakerhead

[@groundhog4222]

0:00 I love that spider-bow tie

[@SimplyDanMan]

Gosh, I love Miles. Especially ever since Spider-Verse. I will admit that I’m on of those people who didn’t enjoy Miles before and only like REALLY like him now because of both the Insomniac games and movie, they makes Miles and his supporting cast just feel so amazing. So I’m glad Miles is finally being liked now, especially me, who is a big Peter Parker fan, as very happy I get to like another Spider-Man. And Miles is Harlem’s Spider-Man (according to the game) also this video was great!

[@matti.8465]

I remember seeing this one Bendis page where some youtuber finds out Spiderman has dark skin and gets excited about it and feels represented, followed by Miles and Ganke feeling weirded out and going "and? Who cares about that?" I dunno, that has always bothered me. It's like when minorities are happy about seeing themselves in media and others shut it down. It shows the "written by a white dude" think you mentioned.

[@mikemorro140]

I think I know the issues you're talking about and the problem I think MIles had when someone brought up that he was the black Spider-Man was he didn't want to be black Spider-Man he just wanted to be Spider-Man. So he had a problem when people started referring to him that way.

[@matti.8465]

@@mikemorro140 I guess I can understand that, but having Miles not understanding why Spider-Man being dark skinned would be important to someone is one of the things that shows who's writing the comic book if you get what I mean.

[@mikemorro140]

@@matti.8465 Not exactly for instance Dwayne McDuffie was the creator behind Milestone and thus a lot of black characters and ofcourse was black himself and a point he made a lot was not wanting his characters to just be seen as the black superheroes but just superheroes. You can understand that representation is important(and I don't think the books are denying that) but the problem that was being pointed out is only thinking about that and not the character

[@2saintlovature]

@@typeouetco1626 you can tell by reading this comment you’re obviously not a PoC 💀. It’s always the white people that have the most to say

[@marvelfannumber1]

I've really liked Miles ever since his first appearance, and I've never really understood the criticisms that he's too similar to Peter in the early comics, I think you did a pretty good job debunking those arguments in this video. If there is one thing that bothers me though, is how Miles has been treated both in the comics and in other media post-Secret Wars. I think putting Miles in the 616-universe, but not giving him his own identity (or permanently retiring Peter as Spider-Man) was a mistake. Miles is in many ways Marvel's equivalent to Terry Mcginnis. He's a legacy character that strives to prove that the superhero he has succeeded is not a person, but a title, and that he can be as much of a hero as his predecessor, if not more so. So having Peter still be the 'original' Spider-Man kind of breaks that in my opinion. It means Miles can never claim to be THE Spider-Man, because the original Spider-Man is still there, and no matter what Miles does, he will ALWAYS be second to Peter. He ends up as either "the sidekick" or "the black one", both of which are extremely demeaning to his character. I think the double dipping of putting Miles into the main universe, but also refusing to get rid of Peter just hasn't worked, neither for Peter nor Miles. In the end it lessens both characters. Miles should get his own identity, like Dick Grayson, so he can finally stand on his own and stop being second to someone else. That, or get rid of Peter as Spider-Man, but let's be honest, that's never happening permanently.

[@MaxWelton]

5:54 which is justified, because in real life untied shoes are a very real tripping hazard.

[@ganonsbaker3026]

Favorite comictuber, favorite comic character, this vid is great,Drake!! Thank you!

[@WinchesterxNL]

I will agree that Miles got a lot more fleshed out in Spider-Verse. It's great to see HIM in the foreground as well. Instead of it being yet another Peter Parker story. Despite multiple Parkers being in it. Miles as great for Diversity's sake. I'd say the same for Kamala Khan. They're great additions. But sadly, a lot of the newer added characters in Marvel, are diverse for the sake of checking a box, and I seriously hate that. Make a character fit, make their personality fit. And don't just shoehorn them in like they've done for a while now.

[@aishahb8336]

Love this video, you definitely managed to articulate how I feel about Miles in a way I never could! :D

[@spider-sensematt4679]

I think the Spider-Verse Miles is best because in Bendis' original run, Peter and Miles were almost the same. Peter and Miles were pretty much the same and the MCU decided to take inspiration from Miles' few original traits, like being friends with Ganke who was changed to Ned and going to a school for smart kids, for Peter. So when Spider-Verse was being made, they changed Miles and they did a great job. Miles in Spider-Verse feels like a new character because they changed him to be different from MCU Peter who was basically Miles and mad Spider-Verse the best iteration of Miles.

[@Abominatrix650]

I'm so glad Spider-Verse gave him a distinct identity and the second movie has only expanded upon it

[@TimmHenson]

When I told my comics vendor how awesome Miles was when he first came out, he laughed in my face and told me he was a carbon copy. Whos laughing now, Gene?! - Also, your dapper look is on hit.

[@matthewlane]

"Whos laughing now, Gene?!" Still your comic book vendor, as Miles is still just a watered down ersatz Peter Parker. He fights Peters rogues gallery, uses Peters tech, dates Gwen Stacey an alternate reality version of Peters ex, pretty much every story step Miles has is a watered down version of something Peter did.

[@windghost2]

@@matthewlane Is dating Gwen really THAT bad? I don't think so.

[@matthewlane]

@@windghost2 The argument wasn't "dating Gwen Stacey bad" the statement is "Miles is a watered down ersatz version of Peter Parker whose entire existance is a cribbed lamer version of Peters life." If one were to give an honest description of Miles 10 year comic book history the most commonly used phrase would be some version of "like Peter did," because pretty much everything Miles has, is, or does is just a knock off of something Peter Parker either is, has done, or is related to. He fights Peters rogues gallery, hung out with Peters supporting cast, has Peters origins, wears a knock off of Peters costume, has Peters powers, has Peters web shooters (literally the webshooters off Peters wrists), he has Peters alternate universe ex love interest, etc etc. There isn't an original concept in the entire character & the comic sales reflect this reality.

[@skeppo3440]

@@matthewlane yea but that’s really only on the comics in the films and games he’s pretty different form Pete also in some of the comics he’s different has not really watered down as he has different ability and uses them differently then how I think Pete would use them he also has a lot of different qualities he’s not as confident and not as smart he’s still not 100% different though but he’s still different. So he is kind of similar it 100% not a watered down version. Another thing in the game is that he isn’t as solo as Pete was he has his friend who helps a lot and Miles attacks a lot more differently also yes he does have a similar suit but it also has his own gimmick to it white more dark colors also every spider man you see already has a very similar suit to Pete as it’s the iconic spider man suit as It has spider gimmicks so that lime doesn’t make as much sense. Also in the game he makes a app for people so he cares a little more about people than Pete and also in the boss fights he fight mor nice and doesn’t want to attack as much. So in my opinion Miles is different and not a watered down Pete but he still has some similarities. Edit: also yea he does use peters tech but like does that really matter either way it would be the exact same thing so it doesn’t matter that much.

[@matthewlane]

@@skeppo3440 "yea but that’s really only on the comics" Which is what we are discussing, that is Miles original contextt. If your best argument for Miles not being a lame watered down version of peter is "well sure, in the all the issues of his book that has been published over a period of 10 years he is completely a lame duck, but in this one movie & also this one video game that they completely rebuilt his character from the ground up he isn't" that isn't really a defense of his character, since they had to rebuild his character from the ground up to make him not the thing he's spent the last 10 years & all his previous issues being.

[@graysonred2641]

Amazing, in depth, and worth while video Drake 💪🏾

[@suicaedere7244]

"If people like thing, let them like the thing." Thanks, it's so weird this needs to be said.

[@JustLibbles]

Touchy topic that was handled incredibly well, amazing job!

[@averagejoe2402]

Was that tweet from The Cosmonaut Variety Hour?

[@FATLLAMA]

I'm so happy how big Miles Morales is getting. I remember reading the comics when I was 13 thinking wow I'm Spider-Man, I feel like I grew up with him.

[@kerrymurphy6990]

I hope he becomes famous enough to permanently replace Peter, he needs to retire

[@FATLLAMA]

@@kerrymurphy6990 I think they can co exist I love Peter to and he has his own dynamics and fill a different roll.

[@kerrymurphy6990]

@@FATLLAMA Nah, I only like Miles, Peter Parker needs to retire or be killed off for good, he really has begun to suck ass in the last 20 years

[@22thedon90]

@@kerrymurphy6990 cap

[@ezzekieldirks8542]

@@kerrymurphy6990 bro tf you on about? Peter is the true spiderman. Miles is just an alternate incarnation of spiderman(peter). Just like tony stark being iron man.

[@CrowsCalling]

This is a great video. I think it’s good how you talk about different types of representation and how writers can go about them as well as how they should go about them.

[@grahamisme]

this is your best video yet thank you

[@soraniostaur3839]

This is easily one of my favourite videos you've ever made.

[@endosym5023]

4:41 Drake, what comic is this from? I know it's the ultimate comics, probably after 2013, because of Cloak and Dagger. Is it the Ultimates Cataclysm?

[@r3trogaming726]

Cuz he’s a good character end vid

[@lucid5002]

10 second vid

[@staple_boi]

@@cyberruck let Miles be his own thing like Nightwing

[@billbutton8468]

No

[@coopercross1678]

@@billbutton8468 yes lol

[@billbutton8468]

@@coopercross1678 no. There's more to it than that obviously.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

The perfect combo, PS4 Spider-Man Peter Parker and Into The Spider-Verse Miles Morales

[@imbored4821]

Uncle Ben's Rice I'm dead 💀😂

[@ComicDrake]

No, Uncle Ben is dead.

[@shadowstrike234]

@A man Damn someone's pissed. Have you even played the game or did you just take yellowflash's opinion. In fact yellowflash never said the game sucked, pretty sure you just came up with that. Yellowflash never said Miles sucks either. Do your research and get back here

[@vain339witch]

Wow i loved this video. you brought a lot of points i wouldnt have thought of and a lot of info i didnt know about. I mean never hated the guy but now i can appreciate him even more in spider-verse and know WHY

[@ziarasekhi6238]

Congratulations on getting 300k subs

[@JetblackJay]

Is this a re-upload I feel like I saw this video before

[@squeethemog213]

Dude you look awesome in this video. With that being said awesome video man and thanks for the awesome edutainment.

[@TheDrow_Bard]

Congrats on the 300k man!

[@illyasvielemiya9059]

what the fuck is the context of Miles riding Iron Man like a surfer. That hilarious

[@nathancarter8239]

I don't check a lot of diversity boxes, but as someone work autism, it feels nice when a character is written in a way that resonates with me. Not a lot have done that, but a good few. Edit: I felt the need to research some characters in fiction with Autism/Asperger's Syndrome that I liked, so I'll list a few. Kingdom Come: A crime comic where the main character has Asperger's Syndrome. It mostly does the "mental illness with superpowers!" thing but I also think it does a good job of showing how autism can make you seem detached and yet care very deeply about someone. The Accountant (2016): A good fit for those who want representation in action movies. One of the things that really got to me about the character were the rhythms of the way he did things, and while it's not huge, it felt connective to me, like the filmmakers understood me. Community: Abed is a great example both of how people with autism can act out as well as not realize they're acting out. He's nuanced in a way that's not often explored. While not a lot of characters are ever CONFIRMED to be autistic, a lot of characters really lean into the traits. Pearl and Peridot from Steven Universe, for example, display a lot of traits for autism. And a lot of smart characters in comic books (Ryan Choi or Reed Richards, for examples) have some traits of autism, which I don't hate but are a bit of a stereotype. If anyone reading this has some good examples to share, please do!

[@cameronweaver2013]

I also have Asperger's and can agree with Peridot and Pearl. Loved Steven Universe! I've heard great things about Community as well, I should give it a watch sometime.

[@commonviewer2488]

Spiderverse has done a great job setting Miles apart from Peter. Sharing the name, there will have to be obvious similarities between the two, but Miles is the Spiderman of a new age. He has in own personality and take on what it means to be responsible. I hope going forward, writers take this into consideration.

[@nicogarcia3020]

i love how chill and great and interesting stories and comments in the early comments

[@jtherealist8766]

I feel you articulated why Miles matters perfectly. You my friend, just earned another subscriber

[@AustinD_YT]

I freaking love the scene in the first spiderverse where Miles wants to help save the world and the other spiderpeople keep knocking him down, they did a really good job of showing with that scene and others just how much pressure really is on Miles to perform regardless of his experience, and especially when Alt. Peter comes back and also confirms Miles own doubts by not allowing him to come on the mission, it all just sets up for the perfect storm that especially when followed by the whats up danger scene, MMMMMMMMMM

[@Vegitodraws]

6:57 Our boy Marcus/ Cosmonaut Variety Hour comes in clutch again

[@SM1-1048]

This video earned you a sub!!! It was great!! Love Miles.

[@KingNerdius]

Wonderful video

[@fanofeverythingsinglething1000]

I really do love this video because he does talk about some important points one of the reasons why I love Spiderman Miles Morales is because in that game he speaks to his mom In Spanish on occasions but that really hits home for me because I grew up on Spiderman are used to watch him from day one and seeing a character with a Spanish background it home from for and you did a great job Drake keep on the grind

[@kevonbedford4078]

Wow dude 100% your best video, great job

[@kevonbedford4078]

I mean i disagree with your high school scene is burned-out statement cause teenager's are still pretty rare in marvel mainstream media but I agree with everything else you've said

[@metaj9278]

Great video!

[@ahmadalaqib8148]

Drake saying miles is new Me reading his first appearance : we will watch ur carrer with interest Yeah i know he is new compared to peter Parker

[@sontho6995]

He's only been around for 9 years, for comic times that's pretty young.

[@rj.b8218]

I was either 13 or 14 when miles showed. I remember seeing his first comic in my library and was confused about the new suit. Read it, and found it good. While I didn’t cut my teeth on miles spidey like I did with Peter. But I guess I was lucky to be born so both could be apart of my childhood.

[@eduardoruiz7600]

Miles is my third favorite comic book character now tbh. He really grew on me over the years and into the spider-verse and what I’ve read of him in the comics just settled that for me

[@carlweezer4398]

He’s my favorite iteration of Spider-Man. For me it was the journey he’s been through I also like his powers slightly differ but I fucking love his costume

[@cjlewis9228]

Into the Spider-Verse did an awesome job of portraying Miles as a spider-man different from Peter Parker. As the writers continue to craft Miles’ identity, I hope Miles eventually adopts an original super hero name as other spider heroes have

[@humanman7368]

Great video Drake!

[@burzobosna]

I like a mix of Background and Forground representation.

[@BirthQuakeRecords]

Thanks for letting me know about the language of “background representation” and “foreground representation.” I haven’t heard those terms before, and I think it’ll really help me talk about these things in the future.

[@dwise23710]

I really like this take Drake.. Miles has been maybe my favorite character along side Kamala for some time now and this is a great essay on him

[@Future_Vantas]

Loved hearing Miles speak Spanish in Spider-Verse, and was happy to see that ported over to the comics, and the game as well, being highlighted in the trailer at that. Me gusta ver un heroe Puerto Riqueno.

[@dutchplanderlinde766]

I think bringing back the shadow spider name would be cool.

[@matthebanditdx7469]

I was just saying that to my friends that i like miles before but really loved him when they gave him culture

[@ourmanstan]

That's our boi, Mules Morales

[@emilyw1001]

Love the name of this play list

[@lankyGigantic]

This just makes me want to play the Miles game, too bad it was supposed to come today but didn't :(

[@hotsuperheroinefightmarvelvsdc]

very cool!

[@InfamousKumo]

Is it kinda crazy that miles’ very first stand alone game didn’t even get mentioned?

[@ComicDrake]

The video came out before the game and I'm not going to talk about something that I don't actually know anything about. KZbinrs talking about games they haven't played or comics they haven't read is how you get uninformed opinions.

[@InfamousKumo]

@@ComicDrake oh cool, anyways good job on the video!

[@nateingie]

Miles Morales Is A Young Teenager With Spider-Powers And Took Up The Mantle Of Spider-Man After The Peter Parker Of His Universe Died In Battle! Miles Replaced The Red And Blue Spider-Man Suit With Red And Black! Miles Even Has An Electric Sting And He Can Turn Invisible

[@Hawkatana]

6:52 Yeah, Cosmo is a good boi.

[@100Hypersonic]

word can't express how blown back I was when I saw there was a Spider-man that looked just like me, i still haven't seen spider-Verse so i guess i should get to that

[@jonathanelvey2444]

Am I crazy but that uncle Ben meme with the rice was funny that was the first thing I saw as I just started watching the video "uncle ben......."

[@rpsyco]

I remember when Miles first came out I was in my "anti-SJW" phase (I'm so glad I grew out of tha. It took me 3 years to pick up a comic about him, and I absolutely loved it. I started reading more and more of his stories. I personally think he's one of the most interesting characters ever made.

[@XS-NRG]

Drake my guy, what is the name of that presumably royalty free music playing at 3 mins in, with the drums?

[@pugplays4642]

I might check the miles morales books out I don’t really like Ben did though so where should I start the new ones or the ultimate comic ones?

[@Kev_182]

7:00 @cosmonaut variety hour ayeee

[@kmtdlo3257]

I remember reading ultimate Spider-Man miles morales back in middle school back in 2013. Everyone nowadays were most likely introduced to miles through the movie fr. I view miles as marvel’s Wally west or Tim drake

[@MikaylaJLaird]

Miles is pretty awesome 😊

[@mightywizard7475]

I didn't know much about Miles Morales until spider-vers, and I loved him in that movie. Can't wait to see more of him in the future. 🕷🕸

[@lucarioknightb7685]

Hoodie-and-shorts-over-the-suit miles from Spidervrse is the best look he’s ever had. I get why it’ll never be his main costume (The End I guess being an exception), but damn if I didn’t love it.

[@dareeljd8038]

I'm Scottish too! Great video as always 😁👍

[@deathmaniac7712]

Was not expecting Cosmonaut to make a cameo through a tweet.