Why Mimic is Burntrap and Glitchtrap | FNAF 101

[@aagsmd]

Why do you have the Tiger Rock eyes? Are YOU the Mimic?

[@muriloilharodrigues4724]

GhostMimic believers unite!

[@EpicMickeyFanOfficial]

rewatching this a year later and just wanna praise u again for how good this is, going beyond just a theory video and being a *proof* video i have it in a playlist of most crucial fnaf videos to watch

[@agonyremnanttrap6789]

Now. As for why Mimic would mimic Afton all of the sudden, my guess is that since he saw the MCI and saw how the Storyteller's stories are literally just the past of Fazbear Entertainment as a whole. It could observe all of the stories, especially the ones with Afton and mimic it. It also seems very likely as well that the circuit boards that were scanned in Help Wanted's VR game came from Mimic, as Tape Girl says once they scanned it all, the code seemed to take hold by itself. And Hand Unit says they were able to recreate routines and personalities. So it seems like Mimic was put into this game to help replicate. So Mimic would see all of the scenarios from the VR game and all of the stories from the Storyteller with Afton, and would want to mimic it, as that's what it's programmed to do. So in conclusion, Mimic seems to just be an Al that mimics things that it sees and not actually Afton, and it's also Glitchtrap/Burntrap. So Afton isn't Glitchtrap/Burntrap. The Mimic Al is, and it's just mimicking him.

[@monsieurlefrog8706]

its crazy how well the story lines up if they are the same

[@Theneongreninja]

It genuinely is crazy to me how people deny that these characters are the same

[@Notyouraveragegal69]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@TheneongreninjaBecause “Mimic bAd, AfToN sHOuLd’vE CoMe BaCK”

[@Theneongreninja]

@@Notyouraveragegal69 FNaF fans be like “We want a new story with new characters, why are you bringing the old ones back?” And then they get what they want and insist that they aren’t actually getting what they want 😭

[@gameslayer3976]

@@Theneongreninjathat so real

[@andreix4025]

​@@Theneongreninjaunfortunetly fnaf is filled with 85% of afton simps

[@xlbthedemigod5662]

There is a lot of connections in game and the books. Especially TigerRock being the biggest hint especially how both Burntrap and the mimic move in a very similar way with one hand curled while the other hand is reaching out. Heck, they share the same exact left hand being all pointy like as if it was a nightmare animatronic.

[@theamazonbois7970]

I love the mimic, his introduction with candy cadet was amazing and definitely the highlight of the whole game and dlc

[@kaiserball]

The Mimic basically Ruined the Lore of 4 games in just 2 hours of DLC

[@kaiserball]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Because he simply discards Afton who had returned but was retconned by the misfortune of mimic

[@kaiserball]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Literally one of the SB producers confirms that the voice at the beginning of the SB trailer was Afton's

[@kaiserball]

@@zavoywilliams3313 But that was Afton.

[@kaiserball]

@@zavoywilliams3313 But is it literally already confirmed that it was Afton, or do you think they would switch roles immediately?

[@VJArt_]

Not to mention, that "lion" costume is ripped apart and has additions, thats to make it look like gregory because thats who it thinks it is

[@watershipfalls5520]

I always thought Afton was Glitchtrap and Burntrap and I'll always belive it to this day.

[@watershipfalls5520]

@@zavoywilliams3313 And I don't care.

[@GhostRose6500]

same here, Mimic is awesome but no, Afton be awesome.

[@artbyphobia]

Same here! I do not mind the mimic theory at all, though it is becoming one of the most popular in the fan base at the moment, I admit I'm gonna miss the memes of Afton and Burntrap and stuff being Glitchtrap but yeah, I will always believe so too

[@executioner4291]

If you think about it, there was no unanimous opinion that Glitchtrap is Afton's soul, which moved into computers, or that Burntrap is his survivor: there was no one. The version that Glitch is an AI double of Afton took place. (with Burn, however, it was not clear) And Mimic confirmed. If you forget about the nonsense that he is supposedly the new villain of Fnaf, then everything falls into place: the ending of Fnaf 6 is not devalued, and Afton continues to be the main villain. (just not real anymore)

[@executioner4291]

@@artbyphobia, I'm not at all opposed to the fact that Mimic is a logical explanation for Afton's return as an AI doppelgänger. But as a new villain, he is extremely poor, especially in comparison with those who could have come after William. (Ennard and Fredbear, for example). Besides, all the memes about Afton surviving and about peepaw Willy can be justified by the fact that Mimic (aka Afton 2.0) has been fooling fans all these years. Not Mimic himself, mind you, but as a robotic double of Afton.

[@heatheroutre]

Allright, you convinced me to give up on my crazy theory that burntrap=mimic+glitchtrap(afton ghost in the machine)

[@VJArt_]

Another HUGE point to the mimic being burntrap is just the fact that people already thought so before the mimic reveal and only than did they start being contrarian.

[@superlemonslicer1224]

There were always people that didn't think the mimic was burntrap, what are you talking about xD

[@VJArt_]

@superlemonslicer1224 in the tales of the pizzaplex epilogues, when we didnt know the thing under the pizzaplex was Mimic, everyone assumed it to be Afton, and after the mimic reveal they switched sides for some reason

[@superlemonslicer1224]

@@VJArt_ no? From what I know there were heated debates back then with people arguing if Burntrap was the Mimic (mostly on the fnaf reddit) Then the mimic epilogues progresses and slowly that 50/50 procentage of believers and non believers started to shift more towards favoring the believers (like 85/15) But then the epilogues ended with the Mimic being powered off and the Fandom basically exploded (the procentage changing to something like 60/40) My point is basically that there have always been deniers (also sorry for forcing you to read my semi rant :D )

[@VJArt_]

@@superlemonslicer1224 im talking to the time BEFORE we had the reveal it was the mimic, literally just like the 1st few books epilpgues that simply described a robot with razor sharp fingers and rabbit ears, something we now know to be the Mimic but back then people assumed it was just burntrap

[@superlemonslicer1224]

@@VJArt_ yea, true. There were definitely some people that were hard core contrarians back then but over all most of the community did indeed think it was Burntrap

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

I'd like to think that the Peepaw Afton meme is basically a rusty old Mimic duplicated from the original with almost the same data except it acts more like Afton's old age would have had the MCI not happened or the Mimic took the stories as stories but still thought it was Afton and mimicked crotchety old men instead.

[@ItsB1998]

I think Burntrap could be a combination of William and Mimic, especially since the Burntrap ending was just some made up scenario by Gregory according to the ruin comic panels.

[@Zoxiry]

this is a common misconcpetion about ruin, burntrap is not made up by gregory, this just cassie's interpretation i mean think about it, all the collectable descriptions are just cassie's thoughts and she doesnt know what happened at the pizzaplex prior to ruin, so it makes sense she'd see them that way

[@Zoxiry]

@@zavoywilliams3313 after tales

[@Zoxiry]

@@zavoywilliams3313 no? she wasn't free until after security breach, tales is way before sb happens

[@lucashampton6269]

On your point about THE MIMIC and Mimic1 being the same, but seemingly operating independently of each other, take it from an IT guy. Say you have three computers. You load each of them up with Windows 11. Let them sit and run and you'll likely see negligible to no difference between them. But, if you give these computers to different people, they will end up looking very different yet still be running the same OS. If the cable that ran under the Pizzaplex was to restore power to and update THE MIMIC with the version of Mimic1 that was previously immersed in the Pizzaplex systems, it's going to reflect those changes.

[@Notyouraveragegal69]

Yeah! Well said mate

[@24Ippo]

I've been theorizing that Mimic and Glitchtrap have the same software, if we consider that Mimic is just an endoskeleton gen 1.1 (some people have been pointing that is not an endo gen 1 and neither gen 2) with Mimic1 software, meaning with default profile, then Glitchtrap could be Mimic1 with William's data/profile. As for Burntrap, i don't have an answer since it could what's left of William in an endo or someone/something else.

[@mannyegarica12]

19:37 Oh my God, so that's the mimic. A lot of people said those were screenshots of the animatronics for the movie, a behind-the-scenes unique look.

[@itsaluzi]

This video is absolutely necessary

[@Zoxiry]

thing i find funny is most of the people saying mimic isnt burntrap/glitchtrap are people who havent even read the books lol

[@foxybro7997]

Even though we all know that glitchtarp is not William. I do believe that he's burntarp

[@foxybro7997]

Yeah I was just saying that burntarp could be William but the the corpse of burntarp is William's but the endoskeleton is the mimic 's because remember William was still in ucn the gl Glen walk g walk play Glen walk Freddy Glamrock Freddy sides he dick up something in Freddy place pizza place and it has to be Williams body. And venny froesd corpse to mimic endoskeleton.

[@jacktyger5436]

Except for one small detail, Afton's body exploded in the books. And about his soul... Well, he's beyond dead. He doesn't exist anymore

[@kamakiriisabean7059]

@@jacktyger5436Stitchline moment

[@muriloilharodrigues4724]

​@@jacktyger5436Why do people still believe StitchlineGames

[@muriloilharodrigues4724]

​@@jacktyger5436The Ultimate Guide destroys this theory in the first page of chapter 12

[@EpicMickeyFanOfficial]

very good video with a lot of good research put in i was a believer of glitchtrap/burntrap being separate entities but u convinced me u even fixed all my problems i had with the mimictrap theory and i can feel confident telling people i believe this and explaining why exceptional job👍

[@EpicMickeyFanOfficial]

@@zavoywilliams3313 yea

[@Jose-u8k8i]

I left the fandom in 2018 and now I’m tryna keep up with the lore but I’M SO CONFUSED😭😭 like I was never that into it and now it’s even worse.. CC isn’t an Afton, the Mimic exists and now every character I suddenly him💀💀 yo I’m dead😭

[@GiuZanolla]

The mimic basically confused the whole story, soon Elizabeth won't even be an Afton anymore

[@azimuddin1890]

C.C isn’t an Afton?

[@Jose-u8k8i]

@@azimuddin1890 he is I meant to say the fnaf 4 house wasn’t the aftons lol idk what happened

[@sh1myuu]

​@@Jose-u8k8iwe've known since Sister Location that the house from the minigames and the house from the gameplay are two separate ones, but both are still owned by William since they're connected to the bunker

[@poltergeist_curse123]

I believe that Burntrap's identity may be that he is Luca from the Tales From The Pizza Plex story "Pressure", in which a teenager enters a fnaf 3 role-playing game wearing a Springbonnie outfit modified to look like Springtrap, but in the end it turns out that the suit was a real springlock, and Luca accidentally activates the springlocks and dies inside the suit. Now, taking into account that Burntrap is not Afton, much less Mimic since this one NEVER came out of the hole in which he was locked under concrete in the ruined pizzaplex (since we are told that this one was behind this wall in the pizzaplex area after the events of FNaF 6, and well, we only broke this wall in ruins), and therefore it is impossible for it to be burntrap since it was in a capsule of the pizzaplex, and even more so with Scott Cawthon's latest statements in which he said that it was not planned to be a final boss or anything like that, that he is simply going to stay still in the dark in various corners as a simple easter egg, we can deduce that it may be. try Luca. You could say that Fazbear Entertainment saw a corpse in a springlock suit and decided to hide it and keep the evidence to themselves as always. That's my theory.

[@executioner4291]

Of course, Burn and Glitch are the Mimic who became Afton's double. It's simple.

[@gameslayer3976]

Yep

[@piratebones9641]

Everything connects so nicely is satisfying, lets go mimictrap is real!!

[@muriloilharodrigues4724]

Mimic trap is real 😞

[@sneeb271]

I think orgn means oregano and the mimic made the fnaf cookbook. /j

[@TheFordoCanonizationCommittee]

Hehehehe

[@gameslayer3976]

I agree with pretty much everything. While I go back and forth between Afton being combined with Mimic1 to make Glitchtrap, the most recent lore shows otherwise. My take is that Glitchtrap works in tandem with The Mimic Endoskeleton, and that while they share knowledge and similar goals, the achieve them and act differently. I believe that Helpi is Glitchtrap in a less assuming form, hence the Yellow eyes with Purple Veins. This explains why Mimic argues with Helpi even though they should be the same, Helpi is Glitchtrap which is a corrupted Mimic1, and The Mimic has a common goal. Think about it, Glitchtrap likely wants to replace Vanessa, and Cassie is a prime candidate, and better yet she can help free the physical Mimic.

[@cenobittten]

While I have a different opinion of this whole debate, I appreciate your narrative and storytelling. It makes for a satisfying theory.

[@loganentertainment1814]

Given that The Mimic has a left hand with claws, then a right hand with just 4 fingers, and with Burntrap having a perfect 5 fingers with claws on his left hand, with 2 bone fingers on the right hand to make a total of 5, even with Burntraps teeth and The Mimic's teeth, there's no doubt there's a connection. My guess is that even though William is irrelevant to Fnaf's current story, I think he's still somewhat around. Given that his head and some of his parts still remain, who's to say that when he's on his robotic body, he's resurrected. It does explain the purple eyes. That also begs the question, if The Mimic is the new William, wouldn't The Mimic also Mimic Williams iconic color? Other than Burntrap, we haven't seen The Mimic have any features of Afton, other than the "wearing a suit and killing" characteristic. Also, I love your profile picture, its really cool. :D

[@wsgimfloof]

the corpses and suit are different from afton- they say it

[@loganentertainment1814]

Ah. And I do remember that Princess Quest does show a rabbit monster that is corrupt, but does mimic Williams signature line, but not the raspy British accent.

[@januszjanusz536]

Mimic's right hand/arm is clearly replaced, his right arm has a clear cut in the middle of it. You can also even see a 5 fingered right hand clawmark both in the vent of the storage room where Mimic is sealed up in Ruin and vent in Burntraps room.

[@corrycrimson7550]

Omg ur avatar is so pretty! Instant sub >:3

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

but what about 2 things,trailer in security breach that was a trailer,we hear william voice to speak with vanny and in princess quest we hear how maybe glitchtrap or something like that purple glue say i always comeback,mimic cant know that words from william afton,because afton start use that only after fnaf 3,is not point use i always comeback to mimic or glitchtrap,can you explain this or is just a hole..?

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@zavoywilliams3313 william afton in help wanted dont talk at all,mimic cant know his iconic line,if mimic have agony of afton than afton is part of mimic,so mimic is afton by your logic

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@zavoywilliams3313 than he don't should know Afton iconic words

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@zavoywilliams3313 if animatronic have some agony than is part of that agony,so Afton is part of mimic,agony is connected to soul

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@zavoywilliams3313 I'm not gonna read that books...they all not canon and have zero point field+man give birth to springtrap,so no,and by the way,agony is a part of remnant

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@zavoywilliams3313 some is some?i know that canon only is frights of pizzaplex

[@SOULular]

19:55-20:01 wait but the only "crime" by afton shown/alluded to in help wanted was the first MCI ,which glitchtrap itself does at the end of pizza party, so how would the mimic learn of said MCI, if its the one to do that to begin with in HW?

[@TheFordoCanonizationCommittee]

Pizza Party is supposed to be there. Gltichtrap can't make new things, but rather copy, or, MIMIC things that exist. Glitchtrap took the Spring Bonnie model that was already there.

[@SOULular]

@CEOofDumbass2009 so you're saying that glitchtrap stuffing you and the other kids into the suits at the end of pizza party was a faz ent intended ending which the mimic saw and copied?

[@gameslayer3976]

@@SOULular most likely yes, Fazbear was trying to market their past, and William must be pretty famous for his murders by now

[@azimuddin1890]

(1:07) Wouldn’t it act like SpringBonnie?, not an employee wearing the costume?

[@azimuddin1890]

@@zavoywilliams3313 I disagree, cause SpringBonnie has his own character. Why would it act like The Aubergine Man (William Afton, yee, I call him that). To me, it makes no sense, the people wearing the suit are just that, performers, they don’t influence the personality of the characters, they are separate. Shouldn’t it be the a.i from the animatronic that the Mimic endo would go by?

[@azimuddin1890]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Agreed

[@ItzTheMemeLord]

so circuit boards who knows how old is the mimic? it might even be older. we don't even know when the mimic was given legs back.

[@v1ct0rygames32]

It's debated when he was first built, however the community have whittled it down to either the late 70s or early 80s. Regardless, we know that Mimic was built in early - late March of a year without legs, then, in December of the same year, what is referred to as "Team A" give him legs.

[@blankblank6214]

i feel in makes more sense that its more likely that glitch trap is afton and possessed the minic cuz ghost shananagains are the only realistic explanation of how the help wanted possessions

[@gameslayer3976]

Yea, though the Vanny mask was teased in Help Wanted 1, “the Halloween mask” and it is possible that it was never possession per se, but instead the Mimic replicating in our head(?) this is pretty out yhere

[@gameslayer3976]

Wait Tales said that the Mimic1 can overtake people’s minds if they expose themselves to it in VR

[@blankblank6214]

@@gameslayer3976 and the mechanism behind that ability comes from? It's a computer program that needs input to execute a given task who tells the ai to mind control the ghost of Afton possess the mimic

[@gameslayer3976]

@@blankblank6214 it became viral after its creator Edwin infused it with Agony, which is supernatural. Afton only adds to that, it already is supernatural, but not bound to Afton alone.

[@gameslayer3976]

@@blankblank6214 and it’s been programmed to fill in blanks and create code to cut corners in bots and games, so that paired with agony allows it to create weird AIs in people’s heads

[@deliavidal8214]

Burntrap is just another mimic

[@Somethingtheo]

The mimic didn’t ruin the lore of the first few games.. the theory isn’t saying William was always the mimic.. cuz he wasn’t.. William is a real person and he killed the kids..

[@Somethingtheo]

What they’re saying is THE MIMIC IS GLITCHTRAP NOT WILLIAM

[@deliavidal8214]

Good video 👍 Even though I agree that the mimic is burntrap, if the corpse on it really is Luca from pressure, then does that mean the man in room 1280 did happen? Because if that’s what your saying if William really is at the hospital, why is Cassidy in princess quest. It’s weird because the mimic has nothing to do with Cassidy?

[@azimuddin1890]

I personally don’t think Cassidy is the golden princess, as I don’t feel it has strong enough evidence.

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@azimuddin1890 in game flile that golden princess was a name of cassidy,it cant be just a misunderstanding

[@azimuddin1890]

@@HORROR-vt1gm I don’t think that’s enough proof.

[@HORROR-vt1gm]

@@azimuddin1890 is really enough,you think authors gonna make mistake by that mysterious name?

[@azimuddin1890]

@@HORROR-vt1gm I mean, wasn’t there like a golden merch thing named Casssidy? Idk, still not convinced.

[@QueSeraSeraaaa]

Burntrap clearly had human flesh on it, so i'm not sure.. Besides, nothing confirmed that Gregory is a robot and glamrock Freddy is Micheal Afton.. they're just theories.

[@TheLegendaryColorFixer_REDMIST]

The mimic can easily slide in and out of human corpses like in tales

[@kaiserball]

​@@TheLegendaryColorFixer_REDMISTthis does not explain the nervous system that is connected to Burntrap

[@FlipTheCatOfficial]

Burn trap isn’t even a canon ending? So I don’t get why he even is part of the conversation if he wasn’t canon?

[@sh1myuu]

Gregory drew Tangle just like it's seen in Ruin, so it's possible Gregory also saw Mimic as Burntrap at some point

[@Sing87eh]

​@@sh1myuu are you mimictrap

[@sh1myuu]

@@Sing87eh yeah ofc

[@Sing87eh]

@@sh1myuu well my dear fellow mimictrap hw2 directly confirmed mimictrap in the files so we were right

[@gameslayer3976]

@@Sing87ehhey we’ve talked before, I agree MXES is not Glitchtrap and think that Glitchtrap is Mimic1 combined with Afton to create a new entity, one that would hear “I ALWAYS COME BACK” from Afton and be able to Mimic Tape Girl’s voice in HW

[@Fnafguy19]

Buddy mimic riped his ears off

[@Thorn.8x]

After much reasoning, I confirm that glitchtrap and mimic are not the same thing, due to the fact that mimic is under the pizzaplex underground while glitchtrap is wandering like a virus in the artificial world (Arcades and VR). NO, MIMIC FROM BOOKS AND MIMIC FROM GAMES ARE NOT THE SAME THING. In fact, glitchtrap has a certain tast e with the color purple while mimic does not. The glitchtrap fantasy is his own, mimic can only imitate, not create, This is yet another reason that mimic is not glitchtrap. That's it, bye.

[@andreix4025]

Then why does glichtrap Mimics tape girls voice and why does he act exactly the same as the mimic.1 from the books and games

[@swetlanaboos6265]

Glitchtrap and burntrap are william afton not mimic

[@andreix4025]

Yes they are

[@PodraMimic]

No they're not.

[@VJArt_]

There is one simple reason why both mimic and Burntrap cant be seperate characters in the underground Tear of the limbs and heads Thats it, the mimic would destroy Afton, in any of his forms because the mimic sees both humans and endoskeletons as endoskeletons. Tangle is unafected because it doesn't have limbs, and it has a bunch of heads it can use if one does get ripped off.

[@JDxY-2]

W vid! Lots of compelling evidence and logical explanations. I’m actually happy Glitchtrap and Burntrap aren’t Afton; it would’ve ruined his character IMO. He already served a purpose for the first six games, and had a conclusive death too. I’d would’ve left a better taste in my mouth had it actually been him. Jesús loves you, Godbless and stay safe.

[@MackGall]

I still think Burntrap is not the The Mimic due to them looking so damn different, I know you just brush it off like it means nothin but I think the details are intentional, everybody please hate me now.

[@The_Speak_EZ]

If The Mimic in the books can turn into an eight legged monstrosity, it's not too out of the realm of possibility that The Mimic can make itself look like the Springlock Endo.

[@MackGall]

​@@The_Speak_EZ First of all, things in the books work different from the games, take the Springlock suit's example: They use different types of springlocks and the suits overall function slightly differently and look a little different too, so maybe the games have a difference in The Mimic's story as well. Second of all, I would like to know how this big clunky box-shaped Mimic-endo managed to remove all of it's limbs from it's torso and replace it with an endoskeleton used exclusively by Springbonnie and Fredbear in the late 70's to early 80's that is still attached to William's scorched body. Seriously, how would it even do that? It even changed it's arms to be springlock arms too. The Mimic itself was not and can never be a springlock endo because that just isn't how it works. A springlock suit is a costume with springlocks on the inside that pull the endo into the edge of the inside of the suit, making just enough room for a person to sqeeze inside, The Mimic on the other hand is a bare naked endo with absolutely 0 parts of a springlock-style endo or any actual suit. He can't fully replace his torso, and the springlock-style endo is not his original endo.

[@MackGall]

​@@zavoywilliams3313 In fanf 4 parts and service room we see a completely new springbonnie design that almost perfectly represents Scraptrap, we see springbonnie many times in minigames and stuff but he mainly looks about the same, Scraptrap looks much closer to the 3d counterpart though, so I think there are multiple Springlock suits. Also, in fnaf 3 didn't phoneguy say that the current suits were too unsafe to use and that replacement suits would arrive? It's commonly believed William Afton went to a Freddy's/Fredbears (But probably a Freddy's because the springlock suits were used in in Freddy's and not exclusively Fredbear's) after fnaf 3 and after he became Dark Springtrap because his suit was falling apart. I also don't see why William having functioning organs like in The man in Room 280 must mean he can't be Scraptrap. Take the Withereds for example too, they an look different in fnaf 1 is because Henry repaired their endos and remade their costumes a little bit since the old ones were bloody and had holes and missing pieces. Take the Golden Freddy's for example too, they can look different if one of them is an old suit and another is one of those "replacement" suits, and since there are so many springlock suits at Fredbears and we only see one of them use hydraulics for the jaw instead of a hinge, it's fully possible that Fredbear either had his hydraulics removed and replaced with hinges after the bite of 83.

[@Pliumorsomething]

Design honestly doesn’t matter when burntrap’s an asset flip, and redesign do exist (take for an example, candy cadet)

[@MackGall]

@@Pliumorsomething What did they even change about Candy Cadet? I didn't notice.

[@joeyrose5319]

Hi

[@electrobob992]

My only complaint with that theory is.. Why would Steel Wool use the "trap" suffix for Burntrap or Glitchtrap, if afton isn't the one trapped? I choose to believe a different theory for both Burntrap/Glitchtrap and the Mimic. Glitchtrap and Burntrap are still afton. Constantly clinging on to life. The evidence? Well a simple voice line of Scraptrap from Ultimate Custom Night. "What a deceptive calling. I knew it was a lie the moment I heard it, obviously, but it is intriguing nonetheless." Most assume it was the Balloon boy call he was talking about.. BUT that would make most sense with Springtrap. So what calling is he talking about? The calling that attracted them all to the location. This also explains WHY he looked so different in Pizza Sim, despite us seeing him leave the FNAF3 location after the fire in one piece. He took HIMSELF apart to save himself, since he learned with his Sister Location experiment that EVERY piece contain the soul. So when he got in the same situation, he just pulled himself apart to give him a comeback in case it was a trap, which it WAS. Then he had an automated message go out after some time in response to any mention of Fazbears looking for old Freddy's tech and such. Basically telling them a location to get parts, i.e his OWN parts. An old circuit board that once controlled the old suit in robot form. Which later got used for Help Wanted 1. Then much like the funtimes contained parts from the OG Animatronics *Ones that would later become the Withered ones*, his soul became part of the Fazbear Network. I.e Glitchtrap. While his body was left buried underneath the remains of that fake location, which he planned to gain access to give it a spark of life again. Making use of Vanessa's body to do so, since she was the very beta tester played by the player in Help Wanted 1. Could have been as simple as putting a Vanny Mask on with a Glitchtrap copy on. *Considering he was digital now, he could spread his soul even farther than the funtimes were* Or just a piece of his soul entering it would revive the old soul again. With the princess quest ending though, Burntrap still survived possibly attacked by the blob thus losing one of his arms later picked up and used by the mimic to repair himself. He could still survived, but is deeper down. Now what about the mimic? Simple Color. While Afton is shown with the color purple, and the eyes of Helpi under Mimic's control was Yellow.. Or should I say orange. Now does this mean the Orange Guy is the mimic, no... But he WAS the maker of the mimic. My theory is, the mimic was created by the orange guy. Who was actually a person only mentioned once... In FNAF2 by phone guy. The original owner of Fredbears before Fazbears bought it out. It couldn't be Henry because... He had the control of Fazbears during Pizza sim to make a fake location legally. This original owner was struggling to compete with Fazbears, after they added animatronics. *Before the springlocks* While Fredbears only had cloth suits. So in a rush to compete, the owner worked on making one of his own.. The most advanced robot he could make, a self learning one. But in doing so he neglected his son, who ended up being hit by a car. This death resulted in him breaking his robot down in an angry rampage, but didn't realize it didn't shut down and saw the whole thing on itself. Then he left the parts in the old costume room, which we see in Ruin. Followed by him selling his business to Henry Emily and William Afton, said business being scavenged. Of course Afton found the mimic, saw it's potential and improved his later animatronics with the schematics he found of it. However... Something happens that requires him to add a failsafe to keep them in check. In comes the springlock system. Until his son dies, as well as various employee deaths. All the while the old mimic parts slowly repaired itself over the years in the abandoned basement. The basement being so deep that the fires never even touched.

[@andreix4025]

Theres so much evedince suporting glichtrap and burntrap Being Mimic,Willam Being glichtrap was just a speculation and not a fact

[@andreix4025]

Also Mimic and afton never meet

[@Sing87eh]

They use trap cause he's mimcking afton

[@Joshchive]

Plushtrap exists and uses the trap suffix also neither of those names were meant to be the canon names only placeholders.

[@Joshchive]

​​@@andreix4025 There is no evidence they never met, they existed around the same time

[@kaiserball]

To be honest, the mimic was the worst thing that was ever put in FNAF(Gamesline)

[@Bubbles-el7td]

Fr mimic ruin the whole FNAF lore

[@kaiserball]

@@Bubbles-el7td Finally someone who agrees with me that the mimic messed up FNAF lore and left several inconsistencies

[@Bubbles-el7td]

@@zavoywilliams3313bro angry that you can't handle cope with Afton to Afton hater

[@kaiserball]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Mimic is worse than Gregory and Ballon boy together

[@Bubbles-el7td]

@@zavoywilliams3313 you don't make sense either

[@JUMPTR00PER]

Good to know that Afton is dead...

[@ninesoul9]

Hello, do you remember me ? I'm back (with the milk) and ready to debate. Sorry for the wait, it took me time to gather my arguments and to make a quick review of your theory. Now, before we engage, I would like to say a thing or two, so we can start on the right foot : - I'm not a native english so don't be suprised by my grammar. - I apologies in advance if I ever start being rude, my goal is not to cause you any harm, it is just to share my opinion (and maybe convince you). It's just that sometimes I get carried away. - I'm currently at school and I have very little acces to youtube, so I will be able to comment once per day. - I use different names for each version of the mimic, not because I think they are different persons, but because each version has their own specificity, and it help me know what we are talking about. I use "Mimic1" for the first model made by edwin, the ai in the pizzaplex would be "The Storyteller", I identify the endoskeleton in the epilogues as "The Shapeshifter" or "Mimic2" and the model we see in Ruin as Grimic. I hope it's okay with you. If there is anything you want to say as well before we start debating, do so, and I'll try to take account of it as much as I can, Thank you.

[@ninesoul9]

@@zavoywilliams3313 My apologies for the delay, I didn't realised someone had replied, but otherwise, challenge accepted! Lets see if I can change your mind. The first I wanna talk about is the narrative, because I feel that I should explain my personnal problems with this theory before putting any argument: the biggest issue that I have is William, and what he becomes in this case scenario. If you ask a fnaf fan for an iconic line, they're likely to say "I always come back", and there's a reason for it. More than just a line, this is what defines William Afton, what makes him stand out of the rest: the promise that you have not seen the end of him, despite your greatest belief. And the mimic=burntrap goes completely against this idea, admitting than Springtrap stayed dead, wich is the last straw when Afton says this iconic line in fnaf §, the game that is presumed to be his last death. Not to mention that Glitchtrap also use it twice in fnaf vr. Also, I don't why Scott would change the narrative all the sudden, don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a new villain and I find the mimic perfect on its own, but I also expect william to come back. And if his final death happens, I expect it to be emphasised on, like his death in Fazbear's Fright. Its also worth noting that this theory implies a HUGE retcon, and Scott said explicitly that he didn't retcon at will, because of his repect for the community. And this is basicelly my biggest issue with the theory, of course I have more, but we'll get into those as the debat go on.

[@ninesoul9]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Still, it would be odd for Scott to kill him right after making him say "I always come back". And, sure, at some point Peepaw will be too weak to come back, but he seems pretty alive in FNaF 6.

[@Bubbles-el7td]

@@zavoywilliams3313 I don't think so and 100% sure what you say is cap your not the Creator you don't know that

[@SenhorSimplorio]

holy based

[@tomast7339]

what so annoying in this theory is how broekn it is I mean think about it: he is using Edwin to as a parallel to trilogy Henry, to prove a theory about games Henry, despite Scott said to not use the trilogy to solve the lore while he said on the frights that some stories are directly connected to the games, so it means the same for Tales, the sequel to Frights (due to Frailty being a sequel to TBB). how can people say that the novel trilogy is more relevant than the frights or tales

[@RogerStanford23]

i dont know about burntrap but glitchtrap is william afton accpet by steel wools games

[@gameslayer3976]

If it was there wouldn’t be this debate

[@Sing87eh]

Steelwool NEVER stated Glitchtrap is afton

[@gameslayer3976]

@@Sing87eh yea if they did I wouldn’t believe the theory. Common sense

[@andreix4025]

Its not Like the newer Book gave evedince about glichtrap s indentety

[@GJMinions]

Still think Burntrap is Afton Also you contradicted yourself when saying that the design change of Mimic can just be a not canon redesign to not reuse the assets but then later say that Scrap Trap doesn’t look like Burntrap Also Glitchtrap really doesn’t Matter Either way Mimic is involved with Glitchtrap Also how would Mimic gain know about the Nightmare lines

[@duckman9327]

What

[@duckman9327]

What’s the point in burntrap being Afton?

[@GJMinions]

@@duckman9327 why wouldn’t he be Afton Hey guys the rotten evil bunny suit isn’t Afton Either way Aftons got to show up at some point Vanny rebuilding Afton is totally possible

[@GJMinions]

@@zavoywilliams3313 ah yes Burntrap being in a position that looks like A corpse means he is Mimic Also Burntrap is completely different from Mimic Why wouldn’t he rip up Gregory After all even when Mimicking Gregory he still try’s to complete his Mission Burntrap is just Afton

[@GJMinions]

@@zavoywilliams3313 the Mimic is capable of hunting them it’s self and Tearing of their limbs

[@FredbonFilms]

THIS AGED like wine. Help Wanted 2 ending confirmed it :)

[@Sing87eh]

Wait it did

[@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19]

No it didn't

[@Sing87eh]

@@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19 yes it did go look at the hw2 files

[@kaiserball]

Literally, MCI and Charlie's plushies appear as memories of Glitchtrap, which contradicts Glitchtrap being the mimic.

[@Sing87eh]

@@kaiserball uhm They re-use glitchrap mimicking tape girl. They have glitchtraps goal be mimics goal. The things glitchrap do helps mimic. Glitchtrap gives a vanni mask to cassie which is infected by mimic1 (helpi). In the files They call the staff bot that glitchtrap infects "helptrap" so helpi is glitchtrap but in ruin we learn helpi is mimic1 but that means that glitchtrap is mimic1. Hw2 directly confirmed mimictrap by calling glitchrap a variant of mimic1 in the files. Basically saying helpi=mimic1=glitchrap

[@Lightman0359]

Is William Afton actually explicitly mentioned by name [not a parallel character, or a murderer in a bonnie costume, or an a-hole counterpoint to Edwin, but "William Afton"] in the Tales books? I am working on a theory that the names we have grown to know and love [the Emily's and Aftons], while still based on real characters, are FazProp [Fazbear Propaganda] like the first 3-5 games are alluded to be in HW. Basically the parts og the games that appear in HW, the Frights Books, and potentially the Novel Trilogy [or the Tales books since they appear to be mutually exclusive with each other] are in-universe offician fiction [like the Fredbear and Friends cartoon] designed to throw off investigations. Under this, the Steel Wool Games, the parts of the Scott Games that weren't re-created in HW and either Tales or Novel Trilogy are the 100% true story The Story that is constant throughout: - 5-12 people are killed in Freddie's locations, potentially by an employee in a mascot costume who may die in said costume, including 1 by a malfunctioning Circus Baby, and 1 in a party accident with Springlock Fredbear - The creator of the original animatronics has a child that is killed in an incident involving a car, and builds a robot to copy said child - there is a potentially haunted amalgamation of animatronic parts that is on the loose [The tangle/Stitchwraith/Agony Amalgamation / Ennard / Molten Freddy, we see something analogous in every sub-continuity except maybe the Novels] I think Steel wool is attempting a soft reset along these lines and is throwing enough "easter eggs" in SB and Ruin to confirm or deny this with HW2. There are Scraptrap and Fetch arcade cabinets [along with Freddy in Space], as well as Plushtrap and Plush Scrap Baby merchin the pizzaplex, implying the Scrap Animatronic story [the non-sim parts of FNaF6 and all of UCN] are FazProp in the form of in-universe video games. [and Fetch is either a real in-universe toy or a tie-in to the in-universe Fazbear Frights books] The FNaF6 pizzeria in some form, as well as potentially Fazbear's Fright [FNaF3] are both real and FazProp, just 2 more janky Fazbear Inc buildings that burned down. Under this extreme interpretation, Burntrap is just a child's interpretation of the video game character Scraptrap as seen in [potentially in HW2] FNaF6 VR or just the arcade cabinet he no doubt has the high score on. NOTE: I do not like this theory, and I know it has holes, I am thinking like a lazy/overworked dev thrown into a franchise 8+ games and 2 book series deep [as of Steel Wool taking over]. Please poke holes in this theory. If "William Afton" or even "Afton" is explicitly mentioned in non-epilogue Tales Stories, then He is a real character and might show up in some capacity in future Steel Wool Games [probavbly as a mention or flashback, probably not as a ZomBonni. A version of my theory makes the Epilogues in Tales and Frights Canon, and the Goosebumps style stories FazProp sold in the Pizzaplex or at the now closed Fazbear's Fright. on the Subject of Fazbear['s] Fright[s] in this theory, I think it was a real cash grab attraction as detailed in FNaF3, made as a tie-in to the in-universe FNaF3VR game and similarly titled book series. It most likely had a decrepit Springlock Bonnie [or employee in a mockup, or both] playing the role of the video game Character "Springtrap".

[@Lightman0359]

@zavoywilliams3313 which story?

[@Pliumorsomething]

Yes he was explicitly mentioned by name in the story Pressure

[@Pliumorsomething]

‘According to Fazbear lore, Springtrap was the alter ego--the evil persona--of William Afton, the man who had kidnapped and killed little kids at a Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria. The real Afton had apparently gotten trapped in a rabbit suit and had eventually died--sort of--inside of it. In the most nightmarish rumors associated with Freddy's, Afton's corpse had come back to life some-how, and in doing so, he'd turned into Springtrap. Fazbear Entertainment made light of this "fable," as they called it. This was why they'd made the character part of the game.’ - Pressure

[@Lightman0359]

@Pliumorsomething thank you. That is the type of detail that both fits with my FazProp theory and can be used to debunk it. On the surface, William Afton is explicitly mentioned, implying that Tales is canon to any continuity with the Afton story. On the other hand, it is couched as "according to lore and rumor" opening the possibility for it to be whole cloth. The best analogy right now is Kevin Sorbo vs Lucy Lawless in Hercules the Legendary Journey. Hercules was a real character in Greek mythology, but the plot of the show took liberties for dramatic reasons. Xena was created whole cloth for the series. They seem to be setting up for either possibility based on fan reaction. An in-universe version of FazProp in action is the way the movie characters are like the story, but different enough that JJ Abrams could have done it: In a 90s rundown version of the pizzaria (analogous to FNaF 1) Mike Schmidt, his little sister Abby and Vanessa(?!) are accosted by classic Bonnie, Freddie, Chica, Foxy and a yellow Bonnie which may or may not be worn by... Steve Raglan. Seeing as it is Scott in the driver seat, it is probably his Freddyverse interpretation (where the story is like Mario or Zelda, same story told in infinite ways). Hanlon's razor tells me to attribute stupidity (the devs or Steel Wool suits are like every other team that takes over an IP: put in enough easter eggs to jibait the hardcore fans, but get rid of everything you don't understand or that doesn't fit the story you want to tell) instead of evil (my theory is correct and the inconsistencies in recent games and books is intentionally hiding a huge retcon)

[@duckman9327]

@@Lightman0359pressure

[@Walterwhiteskull]

Wait isn't the burntrap ending not Canon anymore?

[@rattyxoxo7397]

The combination of Freddy being headless, the princess quest machines being destroyed and the fact that there’s drawn comics of every ending except Princess Quest that are drawn by Gregory in Ruin all strongly suggests that the save Vanessa ending is canon, not the Burntrap ending. The fact that Burntrap exists in Gregory’s comics though does imply Gregory has seen Burntrap at some point

[@loganjohnson2463]

Great video. But one inconsistency with the Mimic = Burntrap narrative I want to point out is that Glitchtrap’s virus was put into the Pizzaplex secretly by Vanessa, while the Mimic one program was put there intentionally by Mr Burrows.

[@TheLegendaryColorFixer_REDMIST]

​@loganjohnson2463 the Storyteller tree was later taken down most likely removing the Mimics connection to the Pizzaplex which would explain why it needed Vanessa and Gregory

[@kaiserball]

the Burntrap ending was the canonical ending, but they decanonized it

[@TheLegendaryColorFixer_REDMIST]

@@kaiserball isn't that called a retcon?

[@TheJonkler1]

I love the Aftontrap believers coping in the comments when all Aftontrap got in terms of evidence is headcanons

[@TheJonkler1]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Its the idea that Afton is Glitchtrap and Burntrap,rn there is Aftontrap vs Mimictrap debate going on(Mimictrap is obv the Mimic being Glitchtrap and Burntrap)

[@TheJonkler1]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Mimic being Glitchtrap and Burntrap has way more evidence than Afton being them.All Aftontrap got is the "I always come back,Let me out"line and the Man in Room 1280 which has Afton alive after Fnaf 6(But he also dies later in it so yeah).Mimictrap is more likely as far as we know

[@kaiserball]

​@@TheJonkler1Bro simply ignored the existence of Freddy files and Fnaf Special Delivery

[@TheJonkler1]

@@kaiserball Freddy files is inaccurate and Special delivery aside from Springtrap lines maybe proves nothing

[@kaiserball]

@@zavoywilliams3313 How does mimic fit into Fnaf AR when it is literally Afton there

[@IndominusX.]

Another W video

[@CarbonRaptor302]

I think that it makes more sense that burntrap and glitchtrap are afton because who else would have gotten the purple eyes cause micheal died and there really is no characters with purple eyes if we include the books also I think that the mimic would have a hard time even trying to mimic the look plus has to mimic his style but that is what I think.

[@januszjanusz536]

Mimic can change his eye color.

[@WilliamAfton-py3go]

Mimic only changes his eye color to orange white and black that's it never purple the tigers it has blue eyes and green eyes like circus baby ennard Eleanor also mimic don't need a charging station for no reason at all only William glitchtrap burntrap need a charging station for some reason??

[@januszjanusz536]

@@WilliamAfton-py3go I don't see why he wouldn't change them to purple when he chnaged his eyes color a couple of times already.

[@CarbonRaptor302]

In my opinion mimic would probably mimic golden Freddy instead of William Afton cause everyone who would know Afton or the souls might go after him so there is less of a risk to mimic golden Freddy or someone else.

[@Bubbles-el7td]

@@zavoywilliams3313 no the mimic don't need a charging station at all it's not even in the books and let me tell you this MIMIC only had orange eyes that it never purple and don't tell me I'm wrong cuz idc because I see you everywhere accusing and assuming people are when we don't know if they are or not.

[@jacktyger5436]

Well, Fnaf Help Wanted 2 confirmed it

[@Sing87eh]

IT DID ?????

[@jacktyger5436]

@@Sing87eh Yes, in the ending where Glitchtrap controls a staff bot to give the mask of Vanny to Cassie. That confirms that Glitchtrap is Helpy on that mask, and in Ruin we know that Helpy is the Mimic. So that makes it a direct confirmation

[@Sing87eh]

@@jacktyger5436 isn't it just maskbot giving the mask and we don't see helpi (btw I'm a mimictrap believer

[@jacktyger5436]

@@Sing87eh Well yeah... Maybe, but there's more. In the codes of the game there's some codes named "Helptrap" or something like that

[@Sing87eh]

@@jacktyger5436 in hw2 or ruin

[@josuawhite2209]

All the proof is bad... This is just denial video with made up explanation. Burntrap isn't mimic. Steelwolf make sb ruin like this so we can confuse ourself asking which one canon ending in series. We know burntrap get taken by blob in series and that why he dont exist anywhere in ruin. Same case for Vanny because she get killed by staffbot. Just because that ending possible they will not show that character in ruin. Mimic room with mxes machine is very deep, deeper than burntrap boss room. That room have mxes that keep the mimic and the concrete the wall. Yeah Gregory have been there but mimic still never leave that place because mxes exist. Gregory also say that thing already exist for long time ago at the elevator ending. Also idk how you think mimic can fix itself with random part, it never mentioned anywhere, still it's weird that he also need fully change it's teeth, the detail that everyone can notice.

[@josuawhite2209]

Canon ending or not isnt important, the point is burntrap exist at one point You can compare how different is mimic and burntrap, and the obvious part is the teeth. Idk about scraptrap, we dont have any info about how it change from that into burntrap in this game. Springtrap can fix himself in trash become scraptrap before fnaf6, but you cant say the same case for burntrap. Mimic stuck down there with high security so it just cant be burntrap. Also again changing teeth is so stupid that cant be possible to happening.

[@Pliumorsomething]

PQ is obviously canon. The Mimic would have been lured to his lair by Gregory and Vanessa, with them creating MXES after as due to the last location the mimic was in the tales epilogue in the safe room of the pizza place. In Epilogue 8, there was this line where it brought up the possibility of the mimic finding a way to self repair. Also redesign exists, candy cadet has a design change in ruin that differs from ffps

[@januszjanusz536]

"Steelwolf make sb ruin like this so we can confuse ourself asking which one canon ending in series."- It's clearly PQ ending; "We know burntrap get taken by blob in series and that why he dont exist anywhere in ruin"- It's part of a non canon ending, it never happend; "Same case for Vanny because she get killed by staffbot"- Once again, it's non canon it never happend; "Mimic room with mxes machine is very deep, deeper than burntrap boss room."- Yea because Gregory and Vanessa lured him there; "Yeah Gregory have been there but mimic still never leave that place because mxes exist."- Gregory literaly installed MXES; "Gregory also say that thing already exist for long time ago at the elevator ending."- It's talking about the Pizza Place as a whole (in which Mimic was trapped for 5 years) not the storage room we see him in Ruin; "Also idk how you think mimic can fix itself with random part, it never mentioned anywhere,"- It's mentioned in Epilogue 8; "still it's weird that he also need fully change it's teeth, the detail that everyone can notice."- He doesn't? His head (as well as his teeth) would be inside the skull.

[@TheLegendaryColorFixer_REDMIST]

My brother in christ have you not read the Storyteller

[@Idk_anymore_1234]

Look if you believe mimictrap theory its Okay, i see it as a valid theory i disagree with The connections Are there, but also a lot disconnections that comes with it that makes me hesitant to call them the same character, for one there things like glitching grave And purple car in COD, And afton Sprite in special delivery trailer And springtrap having voiceslines from UCN, UCN is not confirmed in-game game, He also starts appearing after virus takes over, And also the system Urges you to collect remnant And mimic seeing MCI is speculation And probably not the case since the mimic endos were deactivated because of the original one which was already aggresive without afton, And there isnt any other instances where mimic is somehow connected to afton or mimic him, I mean even his luring style isnt the same, He gaslights you by pretending to be someone who needs help, meanwhile afton lures his victims by urging them to follow him The circuit boards which Are used Are not said to be from mimic or springtrap, And these same circuit boards were used in special delivery shown in emails, And in special delivery there isnt any connection to mimic, And mangle in special delivery has memories from kids cove implying these circuit boards Are from the original animatronics who have programmed pathfinds in, And thats the goal of using them in HW I know people Are pointing out the tree in PQ, but glitchtraps origin is patient 46 said by CDs And the tree in storyteller doesnt have half of its leaves The thing with Storyteller And Tiger rock is that mimic choose to be represented as Tiger, even after HW, since HW takes place before pizzaplex was built shown by christmas teaser in HW, And He has memories from epilouges, Edwin And David, And in case in Tiger rock memories from his previous programming He wants to learn, because He was programmed to learn And recreate stories, And its just weird to me that this shows mimic1 program memories from different mimic endos Are being stored in memory of that program, but there Isnt any glitchtrap or burntrap callback, Thats what buggs me And the thing with redesignes yes there some extreme cases like springtrap And scraptrap but these two unlike mimic And burntrap share more elements than one hand, also their behavior isnt the same burntrap uses others, unlike mimic who just follows his programming in every case we see him And the m.x.e.s Machine is rusty, withere And Broken And resembles An old computer, again this isnt trying to debunk your video, I appreciate you for posting, thank you for the video, And sorry for the long paragraph

[@Idk_anymore_1234]

@@zavoywilliams3313 glitched grave doesnt And voiceslines from UCN where mimic cannot be

[@Idk_anymore_1234]

@@zavoywilliams3313 He doesnt actually the hello And can you hear me is swapped, probably because hes just attached to her tapes Burntrap has demonic laugh And male laugh

[@Idk_anymore_1234]

@@zavoywilliams3313 He has swithed it He starts with can you hear me And again that can be explained by him attaching to her tapes said in her tapes, since He Isnt "mimicing" anything else

[@Idk_anymore_1234]

@@zavoywilliams3313 Not really if mimic wasnt present during UCN He cannot know the lines, since He learns And observation And He cannot make a glitched grave that makes sense its afton more suggesting Hes still here, mimic also cannot explain the purple car, And afton Sprite appearing in special delivery trailer, And even tho they Are flawed books, they arent 100% innacurate or accurate And what they Are saying should be taken into account both characters encyclopedia And security breach files calls glitchtrap And burntrap afton

[@Idk_anymore_1234]

@@zavoywilliams3313 your saying Proof the only Proof there is Are indirect connections such as tears that Are mostly lightning And burntraps arm that is most probably him opening door, And circuit boards were most likely from the original animatronics shown by special delivery where the same circuit boards were scanned And there isnt any implication of mimic

[@ennard1789]

Common Ghost W

[@mylam658]

if this is on-point I'm quitting fnaf again

[@funk.4480]

Cope 💯💯💯💪💪💪‼️‼️‼️🐴

[@mr.monkey354]

Fnaf fans when mimic (they wanted bad writing and afton back):

[@mylam658]

@@mr.monkey354 when i made this comment i thought this video was about afton still being back

[@GhostRose6500]

Nice video, I clearly understand why people now believe that Glitchtrap and Burntrap are one of the same with the Mimic. However, I still choose to believe that Glitchtrap and Burntrap, are William Afton in a way. Glitchtrap says the line “I always come back, let me out” which Mimic can’t know about unless he witnessed Scraptrap kill Michael in Fnaf 6, which we know didn’t happen, and it also sounds like Glitchtrap is willing to break free of the digital world, which is something the Mimic already achieved at this point. We know the princess is most likely Cassidy since that’s what she was originally labeled in the game files, so if Glitchtrap is just the Mimic and Cassidy has the real William in UCN, why is she here? Just to stop a dumb AI? Seems out of character. The Mimic maybe able to change eye-colour but then what gives with all the purple mist and haunting laughters in the Burntrap boss fight? How would the Mimic even know how to mind control Vanessa? Or anyone? Has mind controlling been around the Fnaf universe for some time and Glitchtrap witnessed it? I think the storyteller was more so trying to explain how the Glamrocks got their alternate personalities, mimicking what they see children do during the day. Because remember, mimic1 is just a program, I’m no expert but I’m sure that wouldn’t mean the mimic programs in the Glamrocks would carry all the memories and data of the original Mimic. After all, the Glamrocks didn’t start ripping people apart. Which brings me to my next point, in the epilogues, the only thing we see the Mimic do is rip people apart, while in SB we don’t see him trying to rip apart Gregory or the shattereds. He just high-fives TV screens, when did the Mimic learn to that? Heck we see the Mimic’s point of view and all it wants is to just do what it thinks it needs to do, and there is not mention of Afton at all. It’s not mimicking Afton, and it has no reason to. And it’s an AI that mimics EVERYTHING it sees, so I don’t think it can just pick and choose depending on the situation. My final point being that it ruins Fazbear Frights, UCN, and Vanny’s character. Fazbear Frights introduced agony which was accepted as to how William came back, so to say none of that was legit kicks the books in the balls. Cassidy keeping William alive to torture him in an eternal nightmare was interesting in my opinion, and Old Man Consequences tried to tell her that this was wrong and she should let go yet she doesn’t listen. Wouldn’t that be cool? Help Wanted - Security Breach being the aftermath of Cassidy’s selfish goals? And now she’s trying to right them? And if Glitchtrap is this AI wanting to continue Fazbear’s murderous legacy, and can make itself a Springtrap cosplay on its own, then why or what is Vanny doing here? Did the Mimic just make her exist for the sake of having a killer bunny hoping around? I don’t buy it. And my final point being that there is a staff bot replica of the Afton family in the sewers. The mimic can’t make that he doesn’t know anything about the Afton family. Vanny may have done it but then… why? So yeah, I still think William needs to directly be involved just to finish the last wall on Glitchtrap’s existence. I could be wrong and this means totally nothing, but I don’t see anything wrong with Glitchtrap and Burntrap being William either. Especially when Glitchtrap is now destroyed in Princess Quest and anything left of Afton is gone. Leaving the original Mimic to ripping people apart again. Perhaps it could be both? Glitchtrap is a mimic1 program infected with Afton’s spirit and Burntrap is a Mimic 2.0 Endo with Afton’s remains surgically added onto it.

[@GhostRose6500]

@@zavoywilliams3313 again, it's impossible for the Mimic to even know that line, and what else does it mean by 'let me out'? Out of what? The digital world? That's something it already accomplished, it had a body this whole time.

[@Pliumorsomething]

@@GhostRose6500actually it’s possible, because according to the monty within, ffps is also an in-universe game

[@Pliumorsomething]

@@GhostRose6500and also “let me out” could potentially relate to the mimic endo that was trapped and turned off after the events of the epilogue

[@piggyfan6353]

Another thing to add to the Glitchtrap controlling Vanny part. If Glitchtrap was the Mimic than he would have to be being told by someone else how to control someone and what to tell them to do.

[@GhostRose6500]

@@zavoywilliams3313 That's just stupid. Mimic only mimics things, it was never designed to mind control anyone. Plus whether or not the Tales books are solid canon or parallels is still debatable. So no, piggyfan6353 isn't wrong. Either the Mimic leanred how to do that from some other mind controlling character or it was programmed to do so.

[@NevadaEnn]

Where do you even get the information that when a Mimic puts on a suit, it begins to imitate the suit?

[@Sing87eh]

Books

[@gameslayer3976]

@@Sing87ehhey what do you think about the fact that HW2 refers to Glitchtrap as an it, but then mentions “his” code? I have a theory that Afton’s agony was infused into the Mimic1 program and caused it to take on the bunny suit fursona, child murderer tendencies, and general Afton mannerisms while still having many mimic qualities. I believe that in completing HW2 and collecting Glitchtrap’s “memories” of the MCI and Charlotte- Afton’s memories, we are destroying them. The files “Voice” a character talking to us through the files tells us that the STAFF bots are working for it and that it is bound to the past. The voice tells us that by gathering it’s memories we can destroy them, and then she can crush his code. I believe that this is the Mimic1 offshoot of Vanny becoming independent from the Afton Mimic1 strain, and telling us to destroy Afton’s memories and then let her remove the personality entirely. This entity then becomes Helptrap- or Helpi- a purple and white(like tiger rock) bear with orange mimic eyes an purple veins of agony. The reason it no longer has the Glitchtrap persona is because the Vanny AI destroyed that persona; now we have infected mimic1. I believe that this Helpi is the equivalent to Tiger Rock, more violent and less intelligent than Glitchtrap was. Tiger Rock also helped the Endo in the basement, which Helpi does to Mimic. I am a strong believer that the books do tell us what happens in the games, as they are set in the same universe, but don’t literally happen in the same universe. As John from Fuhnaff pointed out- the shipment of high tech bots to the Pizzaplex already happened in SB, and it’s wasn’t the same as the Tales version. They got sent a bunch of high-tech robots and a “creepy bot” that is “drawn to sound” which workers “taught”(not programmed) to work under the Daycare from the hacked DLZ Shipping Solutions. Glitchtrap then takes over the Pizzaplex and Vanny(and maybe patient 46/GGY) start hacking teh animatronics. Eventually all the staff is killed in the all staff meeting, by the Mimic under Vanny’s orders, and the robot is moved to the STAFFBOT Silo. We see the Mimic learn and develop, before being led through the Pizzaplex down to the Sinkhole. Vanny uses Glamrock Freddy was used to clear a path deeper into the Pizza Place, where Vanny disposed all of the bodies of the staff and the high-tech boys she trained the mimic to dismantle as practice for the staff. If Vanny isn’t freed then the Mimic is taken apart and rebuilt with Afton’s agony- becoming Burntrap: the heavily modified body of the Mimic with various new parts and Afton’s agony creating a fleshy circulatory system, flesh, bones, and purple veins with stained black eyes; and who could forget Glitchtrap’s famous agony tears an drool leaking from Burntrap’s eyes and mouth. However, because Vanny was freed Gregory, Freddy, and Vanessa all leave together. After they leave Cassie’s Dad arrives and defeats Glitchtrap, turning him into Helptrap before dying and becoming Mask Bot. Vanessa and Gregory return to the Pizzaplex, with Vanessa embracing her Vanny persona. They go down and trap the mimic deep in the sinkhole- believing Glitchtrap to be defeated somehow. Vanessa modified an old 80’s supercomputer- the MXES- with a program to keep the Mimic locked up. This program manifests as the Entity- a rabbit designed by Vanessa as a symbol of overcoming Glitchtrap and using his likeness to “ruin” his plan. However, Helptrap had access to Cassie’s Dad’s memories due to becoming a part of the system, and manages to contact Cassie using samples of Gregory’s voice. And this catches us up to now I think. Please leave thoughts and ideas

[@Sing87eh]

@@gameslayer3976 do you mind shortening it sos. To respond to the first part. Mimic ussaully is represented as a boy. But i can ABSOLUTELY get behind aftons agony being on mimic1. And i don't think Glitchtrap is from the og mimic. I think he came from model 2 mimics that saw mci. As mimic model 2 was meant to watch performances routines and mimic them just like how all the circuit boards for hw was confirmed to be for recreating performance routines

[@gameslayer3976]

@@Sing87eh certainly. I believe that the books don’t happen in the same timeline that the games do- BUT- I do believe that roughly the same things happen and they are meant to teach us about the games. There is a shipment sent to Fazbear containing the Mimic and FDS Bots in the games already, and is different from the ones in the books. In the books the Mimic is sent, trained by a staff member, and kills everyone before being trapped in a springlock suit in the skink hole. In the games the Mimic is sent to the Pizzaplex, trained up under the Daycare, hijacked by Vanny to dismantle the FDS bots as practice, then kill all the Staff, is sent down to the Staffbot Silo where it learns and grows and is taught about Afton, and then is sent to the Sinkhole to unify with the Glitchtrap strain of Mimic 1. In the Burntrap ending Vanny heavily modified the Mimic to resemble a springlock suit with other parts, and then is infused with Glitchtrap to “grow” a fleshy circulatory system, skin, bone, and purple veins and black eyes like Tangle. This Burntrap is the combination of the dark stain Afton left on the world using the Mimic as a vessel. But, that’s not the canon ending, Vanny never completes Burntrap and Mimic is just stuck down there. Cassie’s dad removes the Afton persona from Glitchtrap, turning it into Helptrap, before dying and becoming Mask Bot. Vanessa and Gregory trap Mimic and create the Entity to keep it locked up, but Helptrap has access to Cassie’s dad’s memories due to his possession of the VANNI network, allowing it to contact Cassie using Gregory’s voice.

[@gameslayer3976]

@@Sing87eh and I will admit Mimic is usually portrayed as a male- but his only ever officially referred to as gender-less. This matters because Glitchtrap is referred to as it, but then it says by destroying the memories we destroy “his” code

[@NevadaEnn]

The virus specifically came from the animatronic board. Even if Mimic1 was used, the virus is still exactly from the animatronic board

[@abeltejada8084]

Hello ladies, gentlemen and what? I really couldn't understand what (whatever the pronoun is) said.

[@Glitchstolfo]

W

[@Gavin_Nowin]

jesteś trans?

[@GhostFNAF]

Yes

[@Gavin_Nowin]

@@GhostFNAF based

[@skersein]

your voice doesn’t match your little character