Why mini cruisers are terrible (not beginner friendly)

[@LongboardingExplained]

I kinda adlibbed this video, so it may not be 100% fair to the mini cruisers. Some of the adjectives I used were quite harsh, so do keep that in mind. Def would have been more mindful if I had prepped. Also said this in the video, but in case you missed it - mini cruisers are a GREAT option if you're looking for portability as a priority (but there are some good options that are both portable and comfortable). They also make great boards for kids and people who are shorter in height. Ofcourse all things are relative and subjective. Some people love cruisers and disagree with what I have to say. Bless!

[@AMPProf]

No.. it's true.. most people expect mini to be a ride like a long longboard. it's like riding a moped out to a village rather than taking a bus. Sure you'll get there but it won't feel good!

[@AdamLorens]

Dude..speak yr truth..who cares...ur entitled to whatever opinion. And it’s vibin

[@eddieolzon]

I liked the honesty. And I totally agree.

[@ymotstens]

Cruising in a dense city with lots of 90 degree corners i would choose a dinghy over a big board anyday tho 😊

[@waylonmock1371]

I agree with the 8" wide deck getting a bit old for long trips, but I love my 30" x 10" mini cruiser. 9" tkp trucks, 60mm hawgs, 15" wheel base. 36" drop through decks with 10" rkp trucks and 70mm are very comfy, but I like the fun of a kick tail and nimbleness of a shorter wheel base. Also fun to be able to ride parks and hills on the same board.

[@iosoi3145]

What deck? I'm thinking of getting a 30"x10" with 15 inch wheelbase too

[@waylonmock1371]

@@iosoi3145 I've been ordering blank decks online. If he gives permission, I'll post the site.

[@LongboardingExplained]

go for it! I assume it's a skate shred deck or Omakase?

[@iosoi3145]

@@LongboardingExplained 😊 thanks for mentioning skate shred. You're going to save me a lot of $

[@waylonmock1371]

@@LongboardingExplained Yes sir! Skate Shred. I love their choices on decks!

[@SkateTherapy]

totally agree, mini cruiser are the worst choice for learning. However it make me smile considering a 30 inch a minicruiser, I know that landyachtz itself call them minicruisers, for me they are just cruisers. I mean many people even made the poor choice to learn on 22 inch, and when the 22 inch isn't even a good brand, it became really dangerous. Said that, c'mo , they aren't longboard, they are portable, a 27 inch for 8 is more than enough of what a skater (not total beginner) need for commuting fast and safely, plus you can have fun differently from a longboard, not for better or worst, just differently, 180 snaps, bertslides and all this more surfy stuff on lower speed. Cruisers may not be the best first choice, but for me it is also a board that everybody will be glad to have, what ever they skate or they longboard, using them for casual ride, commuting, teach to a friend while he use your longboard or best of all for filming streetskate. My humble opinion just because I heard that they have no good use :) ..keep it up anyway, it is true that there is too much hype over the cruisers and you are saving some beginners, but that was slightly too nazi versus the small boards 😂

[@poppy-_]

my first skateboard was a mini cruiser and i fell in love with it and it has branched out into a whole new skating hobby

[@greencaffeineupsb1728]

Notpoppy?

[@PantheonLongboards]

Yeaaaa! Put that Pranayama next to the Dhingy so we can see how it’s actually only slightly bigger (aka VERY portable)! Looks like you’ve been giving g that thing some miles!

[@PantheonLongboards]

Kilometers…whatever 😉

[@tanukistrider6541]

I jokingly call my Prana "my mini cruiser" haha.

[@thomasecallaghan1111]

Yeah can't wait for his pranayama review 👍

[@LongboardingExplained]

hehe, next video

[@maksymiliusz8713]

I might be just weird, but as a 190 cm, 46 eu feet dude I actually... enjoy minicruisers a lot? Lol. Might be because I've always been riding one (starting with a decathlon one, next some mid tier stuff, and now a Dinghy Blunt) and I honestly love them, they're perfect for my city, and commuting. Kinda can't imagine going shopping or to school with a proper longboard. Oh, to school. Yeah I sometimes manage to do a 2 km ride on a usually rough pavement when I'm bored. And the most important thing: I ride my minicruisers on a pumptrack. A LOT. And I love the experience! It's at the same time stable enough, fast enough and turny enough to make things fun there. I'm weird, aren't I? At least I'll have it easier adapting to modern, short-wheelbase downhill board!

[@maksymiliusz8713]

by A LOT I mean that half of my summer was a one big pumptrack leg day; 10/10 would recommend

[@AB-hi7jr]

How do u you do with some rough terrains? Did u change the bearings or bigger wheel or something? I love the mini cruiser and its suuuuper convenient for small trips, but mine seems to get stuck suuuper easily on small rocks and all, and that's kinda dangerous for the street sadly :/

[@maksymiliusz8713]

@@AB-hi7jr nah, stock dinghy. And it manages pretty much any terrain that's any good for riding (like obviously not dirt, but some rough pavement is still ok). The wheels are pretty soft imho and so far I wasn't stopped by any rock (in fact, even some bigger ones just pop out from under my wheels when I'm going fast). I think it all comes down to balance actually, and your confidence on your board

[@giannabarret9262]

I learned on a mini they are awesome, bigger boards are just expensive not good!!!

[@menyak01]

I rode a trick board 20 years ago and I love cruising and going down small hills. Now I'm almost 40 and have a landyachtz tugboat. I don't have problems adjusting with the small size. I even learn how to do standies on this.

[@mountainman7027]

I got the tugboat recently and it rides great! I even ride for a couple of miles and dont feel tired at all! And i am alrdy 62 years old and a newbie

[@hamishsummers8585]

Same as me, I'm 42 and just got back into skating after 20 years or so. I love my dingy as it feels familiar, like a "normal" skateboard. It's the 38" drop-through that took time to adjust to. I use both for different things, the mini cruiser for nipping about town on and the drop-through for long rides.

[@LongboardingExplained]

Can't beleive you're learning to standy on it ... I actually learnt standies on a small cruiser first before going to a bigger board, and it wasn't impossible. That said, if you do want to progress into bigger standies, a bigger board is gonna have a more forgiving learning carve. The Tugboat is a dope board

[@LongboardingExplained]

You should try the Pantheon Pranayama or a similar board from another brand, will make those couple of miles feel like nothing

[@menyak01]

@@LongboardingExplained Im looking on getting some moonshine outlaw or earthwing camino to be my next deck.

[@giannabarret9262]

It's all about skill if you can ride a longboard you can rip on anything size has nothing to do with it,how good your balance is has!!!

[@jmank2001]

Great vid man! Beginners lookin to get a dinghy pls do listen to this man! Dinghy's are rlly tough decks to learn to skate on compared to a bigger deck and tbh past small cruises, if you got another deck you'll probably find yourself grabbing the other deck more than not.

[@carbonoxx]

mini cruiser are fun on the street, longboard are only good for straight road without cars

[@eshraq17]

Story of my life man. I wish you uploaded this video a month ago before i got my dinghy. As a newbie who was barely making it on a longboard, the dinghy is making it even more difficult to learn. And now that I’ve bought it, selling it is even more difficult but i also love the board it’s my first premium longboard. I’m in a love hate relationship and I’m trying my hardest to make it work

[@LongboardingExplained]

Damn, well with some tweaking you can make it work. Do tighten the trucks a bit, with more tightening in the back, should make it abit easier to ride. Also foot positioning is important. And finally stay relaxed as you learn. It will be hard to learn on it, but it isn't impossible

[@minhha9570]

Hey, if you’re interested, I’ll buy the dinghy from you!

[@deandawiz]

@@minhha9570 guess he's not interested 😮

[@minhha9570]

@@deandawiz was worth a shot lol

[@eshraq17]

Didn’t notice the replies here lol but i traded the dinghy in for a battle axe 35”. Much better board for my stage of learning and what i was using longboards for at the moment

[@tanukistrider6541]

Nice video, man. I have a Prana as my main board. I'm actually putting together a mini cruiser specifically to challenge myself and have a backpack deck, I can see how they would be tough to learn on.

[@LongboardingExplained]

Get a slightly bigger board. Something like the Loaded Kut-thaka, or something 30inches in size. Will still be portable but far more comfortable than mini cruoisers

[@errorone937]

It's a good video, but I wanted a board that can ollie and go around the city. So that last recomendation seems very impractical for what I'm looking for

[@AMPProf]

Ride wise: most people expect mini to be a ride like a long longboard. it's like riding a moped out to a village rather than taking a bus. Sure you'll get there but it won't feel good!

[@NameNotGiven766]

For a short person, the Dinghy is 100x better than a long board

[@LongboardingExplained]

Yeah if you're on the smaller size, it can def feel better

[@charlee2470]

How short are you?

[@travisguide4516]

I broke two arms at once on a penny board but I believe in the mini cruiser for some situations such as carving terrain that is too small for a longboard like driveways

[@Juanjo191]

What type of board would you recommend for a beginner? I would use it mainly to cruise around and have some fun. Would the Landyachtz Ripper be a good option?

[@LongboardingExplained]

yeah ti can be! Loads of good options out there, but the Drop Hammer from LY is a solid choice too

[@Juanjo191]

@@LongboardingExplained I got a Switchblade because is stable and low to the ground, but I think it’s way too stiff for me. I’m from Mexico and the streets are full of cracks and rough pavement. What would be a better option for me? The Ripper, a Drop Cat or the Drop Hammer? Or maybe even try other wheels for the Switchblade? Thank you so much for your help 🙌🏼

[@viento99]

Love your content. Consider getting a wireless mic, the sound quality will take your video production to the next level. And it's a filmmaking secret (audio > picture)

[@collander7766]

As far as ride quality, balance, etc. are concerned, yeah penny boards are pretty bad. But wow are they useful. Where I go to school I still have to park about a 20-minute walk away from class, and where I live it's usually 100+ degrees right now. Shortening that trip to under 10 minutes is so amazing for me in this situation, and then the board is so small I can just strap it to my bag and bring it into class. But for anything else I'd rather use a longboard lol

[@LongboardingExplained]

Totally agree!

[@nateross14]

Mini Cruisers are not longboards, there's nothing long about them. Mini cruisers are mini cruisers, it's its own category of skateboard. I used to think short skateboards and mini cruisers sucked too, but then I spent some time with them. If you think mini cruisers suck or difficult to ride, it's because you're fixated on just one aspect of skateboarding, Longboarding, and you haven't discovered Surfskating trucks or what you can do on short boards. I started out riding only 42" longboards with regular RKP trucks. It was fun. Then I discovered Surfskate trucks. I put some Carver CX trucks on the longboard and it totally transformed it to whole other level. Then I put a Yow Meraki on it and that took it up to an even nother level. Then I started building my own super long 5.5 ft Surfskate longboards. Also insane fun. Then I started experimenting with short Surfskates which I didn't initially like when I started longboarding. I realized I just needed to spend some time riding them and setting them up to see what they could do. Once I got them dialed in they were insane fun. I realized that all sizes of Surfskates from super short 22" mini cruiser setups all the way up to super long 8 ft long boards, all have an awesome riding experience to offer. If you ride a short board expecting it to do what a longboard does, it will suck. Spend some time learning to ride the specific skateboard the way it wants to be ridden, and you'll be rewarded by unlocking riding techniques and fun you didn't know were there. I've learned to embrace and ride the whole spectrum of Surfskates, and encourage everyone to get into building their own setups. Get some Carver CX or similar trucks and once you get used to them they are so awesome. Then move up to some Yow Meraki, Carver C7 or similar secondary pivot Surfskaye trucks. Take the time to learn to ride these and the reward and riding experience is awesome! Mini cruisers with surfskate adapters on them are super super fun!

[@Captslaughterx]

I like the camera shots where your just walking in your crib keep doing those type of camera shots

[@LongboardingExplained]

will add more of em in future!

[@norreko]

The smaller and narrow the board the faster and less energy you need to propel yourself forward. So for sacrificing comfort you're actually gaining a lot more efficiency.

[@jimmyforeskin5659]

Hey the loaded ballona though is pretty badass. Ik it's only a 16 inch wheelbase but that thing can get down. I have 130 mm 40 degree bear trucks on it with a half inch riser on the front and 13 degree dewedge in the back making it a 26 46 split because the board naturally had a six degree front wedge and I one degree back dewedge. I put 75mm 80a Abec 11 big zigs on it with Swiss bone black bearings and that thing is solid. So far. Lol I've taken it 30mph but it feels stable. I'm getting some knee pads and I'm going to test it out on some bigger hills. Around here 45mph is the biggest hills. I'm getting those Kevin Reimer knee pads????? What's your opinion on best knee pads for skating fast on the roads?

[@usecodemango]

Hey up - by chance have you tried out the loaded coyote? I wonder what your stance is on it. On mine I have Paris RKP trucks and they feel so much better than my Arbor pilsner with Paris TKP

[@LongboardingExplained]

Havent ridden the Coyote but from teh specs it looks super nice. It would actually be what I reocmmend over the tiny 28inch, 8inch cruisers

[@jakeshaw1661]

Just bought a cruiser board. Went with the arbor pilsner as it was cheaper than the dinghy. Bought it purely for light cruising and grocery shop runs.

[@marktaylor9156]

Nice vid, is a 34" long board cruiser a mini-cruiser?

[@NeverWolf]

is it any more difficult than just learning on a traditional popsicle trick board?

[@atomgroup3179]

As freestyle pro Witter Cheng says, you can pretty much get used to any board. It just defends on your ride style

[@chrissy.v]

What do you think about the new loaded ballona? Due to the wider deck, and more comfy shape, it might be an exception if paired with 70 mm wheels (maybe?). It's still short, so that's why I'm not sure. What do you think?

[@LongboardingExplained]

I think it could be fun. but with the rkp trucks it def will be hit and miss for a lot of people. RKP trucks don't feel the best for most on wheelbases under 20inches

[@chrissy.v]

@@LongboardingExplained thanks for the reply! It's also possible to set it up with tkps due to the option of multiple wheelbases. Would you recommend that instead?

[@chrissy.v]

Could it go right, or would you just not recommend it (with rkp's)

[@coryascott]

They’re so much more practical to carry around with you when you get where you’re going vs a longer longboard.

[@maxjarvela4255]

Completely understand your perspective. I have about 4 boards in pretty different categories and while I love how fun and smooth my dinghy is - it's mostly at the office for city errands and quicker cruises. It's hard to convince myself to ride it over my Ripper longboard and my cruiser skateboard (ly atv). I always have a blast riding it tho and I kinda want to ride it more now haha, feels like I always get in these super fun sketchy situations with obstacles and terrain and I think that's kinda what they were going for. But yeah I agree like it's really not a beginner board, most people would propably be better off buying any sort of high end board with a bigger deck :)

[@LongboardingExplained]

I get what you mean, i always hav e fun riding mine but it wears off pretty quick! And I have boards that do the same thing better ...

[@derekmcdaniel6029]

the convenience of carrying a cruiser board around far outweighs the slight increase in fatigue and decrease in comfort from a normal longboard, up to about 10 mile rides. If you are riding further than 10 miles or faster than 12mph, I see why you would want a better longboard. But 99% of the time I am riding

[@nateross14]

If you're used to riding longboards and then ride mini cruisers, yes you will tire easily and be less comfortable because you're not conditioned to riding them which uses different techniques, stance, etc. If you ride short boards often, you will get used to them and your body will adjust and they will be comfortable. I can ride Mini Cruisers all day long and more than 10 miles in comfort and I'm 6'3" tall with size 12 U.S. feet. For long distances, yes I would prefer a longer board which is a better tool for the job, but you will get used to and acclimate to whatever you ride. If your used to riding a certain board then when you switch something radically different it will feel strange and even uncomfortable, at first for a little while. I've learned to not make final opinions on a new board until I've spent a lot of time riding it and figuring out what it can do. The secret to enjoying any skateboard setup is learning to ride it how it want's to be ridden, and then ride it when you feel like doing that kind of riding. Is super fun having a quiver of Skateboards that all do different things and getting to mix it up day to day.

[@thornygreenwood]

I totally agree, I started with a dinghy and could never get confident riding. Switching to a Pantheon Trip was a night and day difference.

[@LucciGucci-q1o]

then theres me building a luxury death trap custum 25 inch x 8inch deck 130mm rkp trucks on a 14 inch wheel base and to top it off some roller bones turbos 80a 62mm with ceramics ive built similiar before but this is the first with the turbos hope there gunna be smooth enough for city riding should weigh in at around 3kg so major portable.

[@aldoperez23]

Yes my first skateboard was the landyatchz 35 drop down switchblade(fox decal) and then when I really got into skating I got a dinghy bk which was great but did have a learning curve but then got into free riding so I got a cheese grater then a street board then hibiscus dinghy coz I loved the design and now I’m getting sidewalker relay but I do generally like bigger boards for most of the time coz I generally have long ride sessions

[@eBoard3R]

🤙🏼 *Awesome video / topic choice!* 🤙🏼 A decent shortboard would be like 30" or so, wheelbase not too short. Anythin smaller can be annoyin. I'm lookin forward to the 33" Pantheon Trip /Prana review!! It's the perfect portable sized deck/s.

[@LongboardingExplained]

exaaaaaaaaactly. 30inches is the sweetspot imo, small enough to still be portable but not super short

[@NivlacElf]

@@LongboardingExplained what about the tugboat?

[@charlieb5487]

Great video dude. I was about to buy my 11 year old son a tugboat jet ski fun with the Doozie wheels. They're slightly bigger, so was hoping they'd require less pushing. Anyway, not so sure now! Do you class tugboat as mini cruiser?

[@LongboardingExplained]

A Tugboat should fine for a kid! Tugboat is a minicruiser, but it makes up for a lot of the shortfall by being super wide and more stable than the average mini. As well, a full grown adult may not be 100% comfortable, but it should work well for a kid

[@charlieb5487]

@@LongboardingExplained thanks for the reply, that helps a lot.

[@RussianTroll-ie6gr]

Actually mini cruisers are good for short distance

[@theguillaume73]

Hi from France. Didn’t skate since 1990 😊thanks for your opinion on cruiser.

[@theguillaume73]

What do you think about this ? Enough big ? NKX Slater Signature Longboard 31.3"

[@javiernicolascalfunaovaras2631]

what do you think about a dinghy turbo/fender? comes with 72mm plow kings

[@LongboardingExplained]

Not a bad choice. Bigger hweels make it slightly better, but the risk of whelebite is higher. not sure if it comes with risers to accomodate for that

[@Guanjyn]

I just moved to somewhere that sucks for skating but not gonna lie, I kinda want one of these things.

[@leodileodileo]

they're Dope for commuting. I personally love the mini cruiser from 26 to 29 inch but I'm 44y.o. and I skate (with pauses) from when I was 12. maybe is just me being able to do it well

[@bajjzel]

This video is based on one completely wrong assumption that cruiser boards are sub-category of longboards. Cruisers are in fact the original skateboards and are perfect for cities where heavy and bulkie longboards make little to no sense. Saying that they are bad because they are not comfy enough for 5 hour trips is like saying that BMW M3 is a bad car because once you bought a frige you cannot take it home in the trunku. They are for different purpose.

[@LongboardingExplained]

Wow, seems like someone didnt watch the video 😁

[@bajjzel]

@@LongboardingExplained I did watch the video and 90% of the reasons against cruisers is that longboards are better. Longboards are better for long distance and downhill only. Anywhere else they are too big and lack sharp turning ability. Not to mention most of them are almost impossible to ollie on so any curb gets you off the board. Crowded cities I choose cruiser anyday over longboard.

[@LongboardingExplained]

@@bajjzel impossible to Ollie is defo a skill issue. Myself and many people can use longboards in a city comfortably. And as I said, mini cruisers definitely have their place, but they definitely aren't as good as they're marketed to be, or as you're chalking them up to be. Finally, you can setup different types of longboards to be incredibly comfortable, without the lack of turning ability you mentioned

[@bajjzel]

@@LongboardingExplained of course you can. Don't get me wrong, I am not against longboards. Just they are not always the best choice in my opinion.

[@hochiminh5851]

That's why I do not like much the idea of "cruiser board". I have an 8.6 deck on 149mm trucks, 65mm wheels... thats just an crossover between 70's deck on size but with modern concave. It could get even more stable with 159mm or 169mm with a 9/10' deck. Maybe an deck with 16' wheelbase with 32 or 33'. I just can't think of not buying and skateboard piece by piece. Maybe that landyyatchs is just a cool buzz, it might be an choice to build up piece by piece yourself and gets really better results.

[@ldptaiwan]

totally agree with you, I'm making a video about how to choose a cruiser for a beginner and I have a similar theory. For smaller size Asians like us the mini cruisers are actually not too bad, but I still recommend large size cruisers for beginners. the real garbage is the plastic board starts with P.

[@dimitriosgagalidis4400]

36” kick tail for 1,90 100kg beginner is good ,or go with 32?

[@samp1568]

so what do you recommend to buy?

[@Strandjutter]

I like your clear analysis and I do agree with your conclusion.

[@qpalzmsk1986]

Love my dinghy. nuff said

[@jayseven5eight253]

Did you mention how much more difficult it is to learn footbraking on a mini cruiser?

[@LongboardingExplained]

nope, but good point!

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

Pranayama is kinda bad for comparing ease of pushing, the trip, pranayama and ember we're purpose built for pushing efficiency lol. No other boards can really compare except maybe the wiggler or something weird like that

[@Ac_a]

If you got 105 mm trucks and 70mm wheels can you put it on the Dinghy ⛵️ and tell us what you think. Since Landyachtz offers it in that setup. Also you should put this channel on your Channel list on Downhill254 and that channel on this ones list. Might boost up the views. ✌🏼

[@LongboardingExplained]

will do! Thanks for the tips

[@dustmemory9891]

Dropping truth BOMBS! Im glad Im not the only one whose feet hurt after riding a mini cruiser

[@SlampthChompth]

The amount of these I see on Craigslist and OfferUp says it all. Buy a $200 longboard if you just want to get around and have fun doing it.

[@TheReal_DeanD]

Wish this video was made before I bought the Ahi Bureo. I wish that deck was bigger. Oh well.

[@animalfinatic9366]

The Dinghy is not a longboard.

[@christhedrinkerofbleach.822]

As someone not particularly good at skating it is much easier to speed wobble on something like this at low speeds. That's another big con for beginners specifically

[@LongboardingExplained]

exactly, very reactive to input and unforgiving

[@ronin3635]

Fr. You have too push a lot. People say oh the wheels would ride over anything but that's not the case. But damn I've seen people shred on the dinghy. Especially steven vera from landyachtz

[@whatee]

Great Video!

[@garettotis3421]

I mean I came from normal skateboards so min cruiser are still way easier to ride a distance any day

[@LongboardingExplained]

wait till you try a couple of other longbords, it's night and day. But you're right

[@garettotis3421]

@@LongboardingExplained I'm going to binge your videos till I find the right one man. Would like to feel this difference for myself

[@giannabarret9262]

No they don't suck they are very responsive and easy to ride!!!

[@newdev76]

For big empty spaces your are true, but for a dense city i chose mini cruisers every day.

[@burger1113]

Okay just gotta point out, "as a type of longboard you can get/as a genre of longboarding" is flatout wrong. If it's less than 31~33 inches long, that's just out of the scope of "Longboards" entirely. They are just skateboards with big wheels and turny trucks, usually with barely any nose.

[@LongboardingExplained]

Nah

[@burger1113]

@@LongboardingExplained nah? You realize that's like saying a normal sedan is a type of a limo lol how is it a "long" board if it isn't "long" lol

[@LongboardingExplained]

@@burger1113 longboard is an umbrella term :) Many things are considered longboards

[@bajjzel]

​@@LongboardingExplained longboards are different category. They came much later after cruisers. If anybody says cruisers are sub-category of longboards, this person's opinion is simply biased because he prefers longboards.

[@LongboardingExplained]

@@bajjzel sorry most of us didn't start skating in 1970. We were still sperms in our fathers nutsacks

[@giannabarret9262]

What nonsense I started on a small cruiser now I skate on anything!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ELCuh]

Yo house is nice man

[@LongboardingExplained]

haha, will let my Mum know, she had a hand in designing most of it

[@jayseven5eight253]

Those floors… fantastic wood

[@tonycroft6353]

That's funny man but true..hard work . Tony C

[@lukeholloway7836]

That’s why there so fun

[@cowboy4187]

Hell yeah dude

[@mr_blugoo1338]

Man I trust ur word more then max doubler🤣

[@LongboardingExplained]

haha

[@Crash_Knight]

I just cannot ride mini cruisers anymore. Not even my Tugboat. I'd much rather have a 32 inch board with like a 16, 17 inch wheelbase, and like 9 inch width, in the cruiser shape. And I can't find many boards like that. The Landyachtz Dugout is the closest thing. But I'd like it to have more wood under my feet. 32 inches is still pretty portable and 16 inch wb is still very nimble. Give me some little baby wheel flares with small cutouts and you can probably rock 65mm wheels. And with the 32 inch width you can fit a big kicktail. THAT is a board I want.

[@AroniDeliquint]

you just described the perfect portable board. Small but still functional and comfortable enough

[@LongboardingExplained]

you just described the perfect portable board. Small but still functional and comfortable enough

[@philip6252]

Spitting facts. They don’t even feel good for tricks! Go long or go street, don’t do the halfway house.

[@insanogeddon]

Truthfully all unless you are going for the smallest all mini cruisers AND CRUISERS are pointless, bad, money sinks. Cheaper than any Landyutz you can buy a powell peralta pro flight deck, better trucks, riser/shock pads, then put big wheels on it and have a proper trick ready deck with a better shape, better materials, and less weight.