Why Most Street Photography Today Looks The Same

[@GeorgeHolden]

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[@TheJ_G]

Totally agree. So much modern street photography feels polished and soulless. It’s like browsing the wall art at ikea.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That is such a good comparison 😅 I always think like hotel wall art! Weirdly though it's what a lot of people want to hang on their wall which hurts my brain

[@TheJ_G]

@@GeorgeHolden Ikea/Hotel wall art serves a purpose. Its about serving the room as a whole vs being a piece of art to build a conversation around. It’s suppose to be passively enjoyed without much thought. Sort of visual eye candy that isn’t particularly filling, but also inoffensive to most people while tying the room together. Good street photography, I’d argue, isn’t really a passive art form. It should inspire a longer gaze. It should stand on its own. It should inspire thought, and tell a story in a single frame. Anyhow… I’ve rambled long enough. Ha. I enjoyed this video. I’m subbed. Looking forward to more of your work!

[@MrGohunter]

@@TheJ_G I always think of hotel/Ikea wall art as being the visual equivalent of elevator music. It's filling a void. Breaking up the monotony of silence in the case of the elevator music and breaking up the monotony of boring, blank walls in the case of wall art.

[@shaggyfeng9110]

Wall art at IKEA, perfect comparison.

[@theipon6396]

And this is why I shoot film, it feels more real

[@jmedaugh]

When you compared examples of boring instagram photos with classic photo books it became clear that boring photos lack any kind of storytelling. What makes the viewer linger on a great photo is that "something is happening" and the viewer has to figure it out.

[@GeorgeHolden]

The difference is clear as day really isn't it? Makes you then look at your own photos in a different light too

[@max_coast]

100% . I've got a few photo books (I'm not a photographer) and I've definitely gravitated towards either a unique theme I'm particularly drawn towards or shots with people that have a unique charm and honesty about life that makes me wonder what's going on, or about to happen, etc.

[@thewesternmind]

Many years ago, I had a fantastic music teacher who helped me to understand the difference between ‘playing the spots’ and making music. Something could be technically perfect but have no life in it. It was one of those breakthrough moments and has effected my professional and artistic life in so many ways. Thank you for sharing this video and reminding me of that idea.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I really like that, it makes you remember your favourite pieces of music and the emotion or memory associated with it; not often that you really focus on the technical ability

[@thebrowns1017]

To me, street photography really needs people in it. The majority of the examples you showed at the beginning of your video were cityscapes, streetscapes or architectural photos. Street photography in the past was a record of how people looked, acted and interacted. You are right that it is the authenticity of random street subjects that really makes the picture. People starting off in street photography are understandably nervous about the reaction they might get from subjects in the street. I find that using a small discrete camera helps, I use the Fuji X100s for much of my street photography. Get out there, get practiced and shoot......

[@GeorgeHolden]

I think you've described the journey a lot of us go on, I have been chasing the smaller cameras to minimise attracting attention but already feel myself wanting to lean into bigger bodies and just own it 😅 mainly from recently engaging with more people on the street while using a film SLR

[@Raist3db]

@@GeorgeHolden Oh man. I have been one small camera guy. I wonder sometimes what could happen if they see me with a bigger camera? I still like small for not just the candid advantage but just "wearing it" and not feeling it.

[@TheWutangclan1995]

I remember watching a video of Joel Meyorwitz saying street photography today has lost its sexiness because of phones. I do agree but I also think todays day and age is the greatest opportunity to document people. We’re all so glued to our phones, distracted, and it makes me think of the video of Bruce Gilden flashing people where they’re surprised they got flash. I think we can offer a greater contrast to the street photographs of the past. As we can show how far society has advanced and how anti social things are now vs before when people were Sociable.

[@lsamoa]

Not necessarily. A lot of great street photography shot throughout history has had no people in it but focused on the traces left behind by people, for example. There aren't really any such rules, just preferences. The only real rule is indeed to go out there and work on your craft.

[@kosmidts]

Nope! Streetphotography is shooting in the moment and could be anything. Random shooting people isn’t street photography!! That is what i see on YT. Shooting rolls of film with boring people…

[@jimmaherphotography6245]

Couldn’t agree more! I feel social media is killing creativity. I’ve had to stop myself a few times and ask myself if I am taking my photo or someone else’s photo unconsciously.

[@GeorgeHolden]

At first you think you're talking worse photos when you stop emulating but it's just because you're doing something different that doesn't line up alongside what you already think of as "good"

[@jimmaherphotography6245]

@@GeorgeHolden absolutely! Part of the reason I’m shooting more film again these days, it’s stripped away all the technical wizardry back to barebones, which allows me to concentrate on just taking photos. And due to it being analog, I’m not automatically comparing it to the other millions of digital images on Instagram. In turn allowing me to be more personally creative

[@gregpantelides1355]

I really appreciate your insight. Something I like to say is "Don't force the composition, let the scene reveal itself to you". Great video! Keep shooting and stay inspired!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks Greg! Love that saying as well, you too!

[@clarkzy]

I think the issue is that we are seeing more images than ever before. Photographers from 20 years ago were competing against a small number of other photographers and the way to get your images viewed was to print a book. Where now we are seeing hundreds of images every day.

[@GeorgeHolden]

This is true!

[@davidhui2008]

I have the same thoughts with you, George. Sometimes I dont force myself to take pictures and just concentrate myself into the environment where I am in. And to "feel" the surroundings. To me the most important thing is to understand the place and the surroundings help to make better shots.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for sharing, I can relate with that sense of feeling your surroundings too

[@abelardojeda]

I’m impressed how much people with cameras today use the back screen instead of the viewfinder, it is like using your camera as a cellphone. Why is that? I miss the time when people used to use a camera as an actual camera.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I think the benefits are real, especially with autofocus and quick menus they're useful!

[@fraglutz]

My wife always says: don't take photos, everything is already there, concentrate on what you see and experience.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I like that a lot!

[@amanselamat]

❤

[@kiwipics]

Why not take photos, as they are memories for when you have no recollection of that point in time.

[@d.cassarino]

Your wife in definitely a keeper ❤

[@sythanh14]

@@kiwipics don't live in the past

[@banjo5835]

I feel like most street photography nowadays is more some sort of architecture or urban scene photography. When I started with photography I aswell focused a lot on buildings and interesting streets but the more I shot the more bored I got by these kind of subjects because like you said in the video it's all been done before. That's why I now focus much more on situations and interactions between people or interesting looking individuals on the streets. These situations are unique and can't be replicated by anyone else.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Exactly, couldn't agree more!

[@KevinNordstrom]

It's 2023. Everything and every place has been fully photographed. Other than space and the ocean.

[@Owlbot]

I hate watch a lotta YT content but every once in a while I'm surprised and this vid's one of those times. You're 100% bang-on.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's awesome to hear, thank you 🙏

[@marike1100]

I’m actually surprised by how many photographers seem to value sites like TikTok. It just seems like another soul crushing place like Instagram. Creativity should be organic not drawn from hacks learned on TikTok lol. Anyway, your images are sensational. I stumbled upon a street photographer named Jonas Rask, impressive work. I also enjoy the film shooters like Joe Greer. Cheers.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching!

[@honeypeadigital]

You are correct. Even with editing, I try to mimic popular styles. Mainly cuz people seem to like them and the persons with “those” compositions and editing techniques are already making a living off their photos. So it’s why it’s easy to fall into the trap of mimicking them. Overall, good eye opening advice.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks! Yes I think digital editing might be our worst enemy 😂

[@cherylandsimon]

only a couple of people are "making a living" from street photography... seriously - you are aspiring to something that doesn't exist.

[@KevinNordstrom]

@@cherylandsimon for real. Want to make a living with your camera? Do event and wedding photography.

[@raulquinones-rosado3332]

Love it! I recently travelled to Spain; took a lot of the required (same ol’, same ol’) landmark pics to capture and remember their beauty. But what I really enjoyed was capturing the people, their faces and bodies, but also what they were doing: workers, servers in tapas bars, cooks at restaurants or cleaning crews; people buzzing along the streets of Madrid, Sevilla, Granada… wondering if they were Spanish, or immigrants or other tourists like me. Things that caught my eye, that sparked my curiosity, that tugged at my heart. Street photography, I am discovering, is a great art form, and also a means of ongoing self discovery … and of self affirmation. Keep up your insightful takes on photography.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for sharing, I have a trip coming up next month and hope to try focus myself more away from my previous same ol', same ol' shots. Take care 👍

[@derrenleepoole]

Could not agree more. Interestingly while watching this, I started to to think about a technique I have used in gig photography using long exposure techniques, and how the same techniques and ideas might work for street captures. Good video. Subbed.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching and glad it got you thinking! Appreciate the sub, and good luck with the new technique!

[@robertmathieson1083]

Thank you. I was beginning to think that it was just me. Street photography online just seems to be a regurgitation of old ideas. When I see something original I tend to want to tell people as if I've found a rare stamp or something similar. I'm also tending to fall into the view that age makes even average images better. Who knows. Thanks again for that.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!

[@DavidTrowsdale]

Your commentary really resonates with me, made me think about the enjoyment within street photography, thanks for a great video 👍🏻

[@GeorgeHolden]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@slickpeeker]

Great points. Ive always leaned towards these hacks which i thought were really overused and i tend to overlook what i really wanted to take photos of: the interaction of people with others, himself, or his surroundings.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching!

[@melody3741]

A massive problem on the internet is bad teachers who might be good but instead of giving good advice they just describe EXACTLY what they do down to the tiniest minutia. Because it gets views and shows a immediate good result. This is like those memes about a back to school outfit. Same exact problem. Just a specific description and no explanations

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agreed!

[@neiraxx]

George, hope you're having a nice day, love the simple editing, and I couldn't agree with you more on this subject! Every single short video on "aspiring photographer tips & tricks" that I see in my feed is promoting the same technique that consist of reflections, leading lines, low angle, or the rule of thirds. While these are surely time tested and justified techniques, it is absolutely flattening my mind to comprehend that some of the newer generation of photographers' photos consist only of those things and not much creativity is put into their photos. As for the aforementioned photo books, this is where photography shines, in my opinion, so it's strange not a single "photography tips influencer" seems to talk about putting in emotional value in photos, or changing the viewers perspective, so that it's not something that we see in our feed every day.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching! Yes I completely agree and as someone who shares videos online, those ideas have appeared in my own notes, but I pull myself away and try to think a little harder. These days I'm staying away from short form or tutorials, instead taking more photos for myself

[@a.m.m.f]

I’ve definitely felt like this before where street photography just feels like copy and paste nowadays so knowing i’m not the only one feels refreshing i guess

[@GeorgeHolden]

Exactly, I think it's hard to explain for me but I wanna dive more into this as I learn my way through. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@MikeChudley]

Well this is fantastic, couldn't agree more. Nicely done mate.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thank you mate, appreciate it 🙏

[@leestanford2452]

I don’t go out with my camera to get good shots. I go out to enjoy looking at the world through the lens. If I get a good shot, that’s an added bonus. Not unlike fishing :)

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!

[@JamesParsons1]

Great video George. I completely agree, when the techniques used to take a photo (e.g. reflections/ perfect symmetry / the colour grade) is what makes it interesting, they very quickly get stale and boring. I do feel like there is a trend towards people wanting to take photos of interesting subjects and compositions instead of TikTok style bangers.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks, James! It feels like it's a natural evolution for everyone at their own pace, there are only so many times you can edit and export the same images. Hopefully, we see that trend toward interesting subjects more and more soon.

[@user-dapeng661]

Absolutely agree … Instagram is killing photography … how hypsters are just copying the same scene and trick is pure misery and sick ~

[@GeorgeHolden]

Sadly it's the same formula issue we saw with filmmaking and KZbin, slow-mo 85mm b-roll everywhere 😂

[@jonasthepigeon]

The problems about compositions you learn through TikTok is that they are straight up boring. Try looking at the old school masters like Henri Cartier Bresson, Alex Webb etc. Those are the real compositions you should strive for.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agreed as I said with the Erwitt example

[@d.cassarino]

I learned a lot from YT videos about photography, I experimented a lot and trying to mimicking this photographers, but at the end, I always follow what I'm attracted to no what is the last trend on IG

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!

[@dancalahan504]

You do such a great job of presenting the ideas in this video, even though there aren't really any totally new concepts. Great video! Very inspiring.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks! There are no unique messages, only unique messengers 👍

[@Booth7425]

It seems to me that the best of both worlds is the combination of interesting content and good composition; however, for me personally, interesting content trumps good composition most of the time. So, yes, I can't agree with you any more when you said "good composition with uninteresting content is still a bad photo". Very well said, thank you, George. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agreed getting the best of both is the ideal way, but if it comes to a choice between the two its content everyday for me. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment 🙏

[@Evoke]

Cool take. Good critique on the Tik tok stuff…much like the critique on the insta stuff from years ago. One critical point you don’t seem to make: there’s a difference between calling everything shot in an urban environment Street Photography, and recognizing that a photo of a building or passing bus often has nothing or little to do with Street Photography. This is why folks get upset with the blanket term. The urban shots have their place and require a lot of skill and practice, but without the humanity in the shot, it’s simply another genre. Some people like bright lights, some people look for bright souls.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That is true, thanks for pointing that out - I agree the definition needs to be made

[@daemon1143]

Thank god someone had the guts to say it out loud.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I feel like we all knew it 😅

[@daemon1143]

@@GeorgeHolden But so many of us still did it anyway.

[@benfromatlantis]

George, this. Was. Awesome. I thank you for your clear, honest und so correct view on things. I found myself here listening with mouth open because I was on that exact same wrong track.. I wanted to "create" what everyone does out there. And: do you notice how bored all these "photographers" show what they are doing?! THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGAIN.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thank you! And yes agreed, the photography content trap I think is what burns out many of us

[@honestpat7789]

There’s a easy fix to this: shoot film (it’ll challenge your creativity in more ways than you can imagine), and focus more on people in your photos. People tell unique stories and are the most interesting thing on the street 🤷‍♂️

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yeah agreed, I am shooting film more and more but limited to needing to spend money on food too 😅

[@rmdhn1]

This. What sucked me in to the world of photography, and actually correlates with me enjoying cycling. People in their everyday lives, they're all living their own unique lives, and when you encounter them, that human experience, maybe their expressions seeing your camera and smiling, maybe them just still doing their job, all captured in one snapshot. I enjoy cycling because i get pretty close to sidewalks, and seeing people, occasionally interacting with another cyclist, it's amazing.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Love that, thanks for sharing!

[@HitmanJ]

I agree. Sometimes I find myself thinking: "Oh I've seen this composition somewhere on the internet, so I must take the same photo." Or thinking something like: "I think X photographer takes photos like this and that, so let me do the same." It's a weird subconscious thing that comes from watching and seeing loads of street photography content online instead of going with our own flow and thought process. It's good to be inspired by those contents because they can help unlock more of our potencial and creativity, but at the same time we shouldn't mimic everything we see.

[@MOTOJendays]

I shoot a lot of my street photography these days at 24mm just cause I find it fun and I like the photos I get. But I often get teased in my discord because it's not "normal" because it's not 35mm or 85mm. On top of that I see everyone shooting vertical instead of landscape because of Instagram. I agree, I feel like social media has taken control of how people shoot their photos.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I'm with you, I'm leaning towards 28mm as my go-to. Finishing up testing with a 35mm at the moment but I like 28mm and I like landscape the same as portrait. 24mm is a great option and pushes you to get closer too!

[@MOTOJendays]

@@GeorgeHolden 28 would be the sweet spot for me. But Sony doesn't have the best options for 28mm. So I just use 24. I've been finding it challenging lately. But it's fun nonetheless. I've yet to try a 35 but I'm sure I would love that too.

[@GeorgeHolden]

@@MOTOJendays ah I see, I had the 28mm f/2 for a while but didn't love it - recently been using an adapted 28mm Minolta on my Sony

[@david-markthomlinson7928]

How do you get around the portrait/landscape algorithm on Instagram. I like landscape but I've not yet found a way around, so end up using portrait.

[@MOTOJendays]

@@GeorgeHolden Honestly I might just roll with a 18mm Fuji for my 28mm equiv. The 1.4 for it seems pretty good.

[@comelachapelle8337]

You are very good, sensitive and throughful and very often funny. Keep the good work.

[@manuelricardoperezperez1843]

Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo no hay nada de imagenes Contundentes, imágenes sin mensaje o un lenguaje, solo formas de composición y creo que le tienen terror a afrontar las miradas o momentos con expresiones del alma del sujeto. Gracias oor esta explicación tan buena

[@GeorgeHolden]

Muchas gracias, sentí que no hice un gran trabajo al explicarlo, así que me alegro de que haya tenido sentido para ti. Además, ¡espero que mis subtítulos en español hayan sido precisos!

[@raulquinones-rosado3332]

De acuerdo con ambos.

[@fogtownrog]

The most useful teachings are studying the successful works by the masters whose work you love the most!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very well said!

[@michaelseirer]

great video, enjoyed watching it. just let me add my three cents: 1) i think this does not only apply to street photography (in fact, even in the comments others claim your examples werent street photography ones) but for all kinds of photography, 2) these "rules" or recipes are really easy to teach/learn and probably are in the near future incorporated in photo-taking apps (think rule of thirds, guiding lines, symmetry, reflections etc) and 3) the really good examples apply some of these "tricks" but the actually ADDS to the photo, not in the sense that its there but that it deepens the meaning of the photo and there is a reason for being in the frame. what you guys think?

[@GeorgeHolden]

Good points!

[@paulhickey6896]

Great video! I recently read a book on composition, went out on a rainy day looking for puddles and reflections. I found one. It was perfect. Took a great shot, IMHO! But then looking at it I thought, this is not me. It's not what I do. I look for interesting people and take pics of them. Most of them don't fit in any of the 'rules' I read about in the book on composition. But they are the pics I love the most. So lesson learned. Yeah, as you say, pay heed to the 'rules' but go do your own stuff and be true to yourself! No more puddles for me!! 🙂

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching!

[@narayanidevidasi6043]

such an enlightening speech! Love your thoughts, thanks a LOT

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@oleksei3371]

That's why I'm not subscribed to any Insta/TikTok channels, I don't my style to be influenced by anyone. I'd rather make mistakes and learn through trial and error, getting feedback from the community and friends.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Great approach, thanks for watching!

[@scd6969]

love your channel george. you have some great insights and really puts ideas in my head that I haven't thought about..

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thank you! Happy to help 🙏

[@sonyviva308]

I think the best way to describe street photography is to document people and events around as pretty as possible.

[@derrickrecords]

Can't even label these as street photos, honestly speaking.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That may be the problem

[@RohamBroccoli]

The challenge with our modern and well-developed society is the definition of success has changed. Success today is measured in followers and likes. Based on that, some get the illusion that they have overnight become "experts" and are qualified to teach. After all, there is a lot you can learn from social media, but you have to learn to "filter" noise. Not easy, but it can be done..

[@GeorgeHolden]

This is true, I'm planning an entire video on the "expert" persona - something I have a lot of opinions on 😂

[@anta40]

Replace "street photography" with other genre, like landscape or portrait for example, and basically the question is still valid: landscape photography: foggy mountain during sunset portrait: good looking women with blurred blackground and sun flare in the front etc I wonder if we can (partly) blame social medias. Twenty or thirty years ago, there's no internet yet. Our visual references were limited to magazines and prints. Now we are contantly bombarbed 24/7 with visual feedbacks. Thus it's very easy to see "hey, I think this image is already taken before..." or "oh this particular scene has been shot 500 times". As a hobbyist, my PoV on this issue is straightforward: I make images for my own pleasure, and I don't really care if looks similar to the other. Which in most cases are true: imitating is one of the simplest ways of learning. Yes, I'm aware not all people are interested to stay on this phase forever and want to set bar higher: creating your own recognizable style/identity. When people look at your photos, they will immediately know it's taken by you. Not HCB, not Joel Meyerowitz, not Daido Moriyama etc. Gotta be honest I still don't know what my style is. Imitating the other is much easier :D

[@GeorgeHolden]

👍

[@rafael_schild]

I started using tiktok as an inspiration things for a while already, bring a few things from tiktok that I learned there and trying to apply in my photography. I think that I'm doing a good job to improve my techniques not copying a technique from someone else

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@goos4711]

I emulate so I can see if I can be as good as the pros. But I know what you mean. Best way to get out of the comfort zone is to not look for a specific shot rather shoot what you think will be a unique phots.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very good point! Definitely emulating can teach you a lot and then taking those skills to pursuing your own take on photography

[@goos4711]

@@GeorgeHolden but you are right. Personal style/intuition is extremely important. If you don’t innovate you will only live in someone’s shadow.

[@danielsoto9073]

yep. It looks the same, and it is kind of frustrating to see that those are the only ones going viral, but I wouldn't dare to shoot heartless photos just for the sake of virality. On the other hand, I started my photography journey as an extension of my own way of experiencing life. Walking around with no place in mind, breathing the scents of flowers, looking at the reflections in the wet streets. I appreciate an interesting subject but that is not necessary for me. I guess everyone has their own way.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very well put!

[@justamanwithanopinion]

I highly recommend Alan Schaller as an example of how street photographers can set themselves apart. He is a master of his craft.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll do some digging!

[@valdiskrebs566]

Yes ... and Alan's favorite focal length is 24mm!

[@weisserth]

One the things I noticed with my content on social media is that posts with complex content, lots of detail do not get traction/engagement while posts with content that is simplistic and depends on abstract graphical shapes, colors, contrast does very well, even though it's essentially meaningless from a humanist, documentation point of view. It's hollow. And boring to look at. It reminds me of the early 2000s on Flickr, when more people started to afford larger sensor format digital cameras and everyone was posting images with just a fraction of the frame in focus, the bokeh being the subject of the photograph, e.g. the endless series of fence post tips in focus, the rest obliterated into meaningless mush, portraits with eyes in focus, but mush (=bokeh) obliterating faces.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I feel that, I find yes with wider shots and smaller subjects platforms like Instagram aren't very forgiving but it's definitely a balancing act. I like sharing my wider shots in YT videos as for some part they're bigger on laptop screens for some viewers 😅

[@Kevodabomb_Media]

I deleted my Instagram, because ultimately I felt as if I have been trying to take photos through someone else's eyes other than my own. It just felt a little odd to me, going out to the city to walk around to try and take the same kinds of photos I have been unwillingly subjected to online. I watched your other video of how we should "detox" ourselves from other peoples work, and that definitely feels like what is happening to me. Honestly, I have felt so much less pressure when taking photos, and I feel like I have been more experimental in trying random things, instead of trying to find those very specific tricks to use.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!

[@vedranr.glavina7667]

Hey, George ! You are really a fantastic professor, man !

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks! 😅

[@monikabrandenstein5011]

Very, very interesting that you talk about trusting your gut feeling when choosing a motif. The development of this very own individuality in the photographic work is immensely essential. I totally agree with you. There is too much of the same stuff from different people and often not enough individuality from the many individuals who engage in photography. But it's really not easy to first find out what constitutes your own photographic personality. Studying relevant illustrative literature and being inspired by it is good advice. In my opinion, you do a very good educational job. Thanks and greetings - Mo.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thank you, yeah I think taking away the technical limitations and learnings from photography can mean you gravitate towards your personal interest and style, then use the technical side to further improve your images as you continue. Thanks for watching!

[@Visions_in_Toyko]

i have always said, if you want to learn street photography dont listen to advice on youtube / tik tok. go study the masters

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very well put 👍

[@rio_nakayama]

Thank God someone is finally saying this.. to me (though these tik tok's tricks aren't bad in itself) they are not "Street Photography" they are just beautiful photos taken on the streets.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yeah I think street is a very wide genre and the popular representation at the moment seems very narrow

[@vngas7]

I opened an instagram account specifically to post my photos, to have something that would force me to go out and take photos and try to be constant. But I have realized that going out to take photos just to post them on social media is too ephemeral and meaningless. I keep posting but only when I feel like it, now I'm trying to find physical projects that call me out to take photos.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yes, I love that idea. I have a small local project I am starting just on 35mm - good luck with whichever project you decide to start!

[@mikefoster6018]

Fantastic video. I live in eclectic London, so have no excuse not to get out there and find more interesting subject matter. I'm quite a lively chap who's happy chatting to strangers, so I think that's almost as important a part of my 'photography toolkit' as my equipment - if I could use it more. I feel like a large proportion of 'street photographers' are just the same as self-obsessed Tik-Tokers. Roving around pointing cameras at "a man waiting for a train" etc. I think the worst thing is that taking boring photos is more intrusive than taking good ones, because no one in the shot, or seeing it being taken, will appreciate the purpose. If you take great photos, at least you can show it to the subject and they'll be like "Ah, I wondered what you were up to - but now I get it! Lovely." (I think that's a good reason to often have your camera producing film simulation JPEGS etc too, not just RAWs, so you can show your subject when you need to and have it look nice). As an aside, I think people are so hypocritical for obsessing over 'government surveillance' etc, when it's obvious to me that 99% of surveillance is done obsessively by public.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching!

[@yumenolala]

Also everything looks the same because of the "trending" algorithms they have on KZbin and Instagram, lol. Great video and funny butt crack, waited for the right moment there.

[@GeorgeHolden]

This is true and thank you for appreciating the crack

[@lsamoa]

So true. There's a lot of great photographers out there making unique content, but they're never pushed by the algorithms. I try to find them using hashtags rather than Explore.

[@Dj.D25]

I've been noticing this too, on certain street photography videos where the photographer is filming themselves as they walk, street photography Facebook groups and some of the photographers I check out on Instagram and Vero. Most of the photos these photographers share don't stand out enough to me. My main issue is that many street photographers are photographing places or things that don't look that interesting. Such as a plain looking building that doesn't have anything on it that really stands out on it's walls, architecture or lacks character. Also often times a lot of street photographers I see today are photographing people who look very ordinary or aren't doing anything that interesting. I am guilty of this sometimes, but still trying to remember as I shoot. But if they walk in front of a background that I really like, I shoot since it would make the photo more interesting, such as an interesting looking store, street art, or some other background that stands out and isn't plain. I try to photograph people doing something that stands out or is unusual. For example, I once photographed a man talking on his cell phone while he was sitting on an open trash barrel in Hollywood, CA. Which I thought was kind of funny since it wasn't something I see everyday and maybe there was a chance he could fall inside.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agreed! The more photographers you're in touch with especially I think will make you see these trends too

[@tallaganda83]

A lot of street photography probably takes a few decades to mature imo. I do agree that modern street photography is a bit samey, but even some of that in 40 years times may hit someone, somewhere in the nostalgia's. A lot of those older photo's probably looked pretty average back in their day, but now they are like an historical artefact.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I agree, the maturing process is sometimes overlooked, I have a video I'm working on but it's difficult to shine a light on more recent photography that may or may not age better than others. The history factor too, I sometimes think is the amount of photography today going to cancel out some historical importance

[@SPAHI43]

I think, it's obvious. If you're an amateur, it's OK to follow guides. Then, you begin to do something new step by step and grow as a photographer (or every other type of work), develop your own unique style. Second, I don't think you should hunt for emotions only. Me personally, I have ADHD and I don't feel emotions a lot, but I always see a good composition and appreciate a good looking picture. Theres a place for both approaches.

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's a great perspective, thanks so much for sharing. It's definitely a step by step journey and some of us spend longer on one step than others, I sometimes feel like I go back a step or two to relearn or unlearn bad habits too

[@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003]

Very good upload. Compositional tricks, Lightroom presets, and the lust for Social media Likes!… We start off trying to bite Cartier Bresson, Garry Winogrand, Saul Leiter, Fan Ho, or some other great street artists style, but the reality is, in Street photography it can take up to a decade to find your own unique fingerprint… and when you find it, there's no guarantee that anyone else will actually like it. It's a sobering thought, so be patient with your progress. The quicker we put down the Compositional tricks, the presets and stop worrying about Likes, the quicker we will find what we claim to be searching for, if it's really that what we are searching for.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Very well put! I'm guilty of using my own presets on digital but to remove some of the tinkering of digital editing. I think accepting that the road is long and maybe never ending is what frees you to experiment and be willing to get it wrong, rather than trying to perfect a specific style. Thanks for watching and appreciate you taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment 🙏

[@foca2002]

Now being serious I started with street photography in the earlier days of digicams, my weapon of choose was a Fuji A330 that I bought just because it was the cheapest 3MP camera that I could afford at the time. The XD card was so expensive that I only had one with 16MB so I need to choose very carefully what I would shoot with it. Now I mostly use my Galaxy S23U, a old Cybershot W510 or my Lumia 1020 even though I have a mirrorless and a few primes.

[@mudgie069]

I enjoy shooting people on the street, sometimes with a classic 35-50mm focal length and sometimes with a 400-600mm focal length or whatever lens I have on at the time. I usually look for interesting characters so I'd say I'm more of a candid people photographer than just street. Occasionally Ill see some interesting reflections or some great light but it's always more about characters than anything else, for me at least.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for sharing! Can imagine the 400-600 gets a bit heavy on a long photo session 😅

[@mudgie069]

@@GeorgeHolden not if your using something like a Panasonic 100-300 on a m43 camera 👍

[@hoppy760]

Great video and I agree. The problem is photographers giving advice and the ones prevalent on social media are from the “copy and paste” generation, more concerned about creating video content vs creating great street photography. There’s an old-school photographer named John Free who has some great videos about street photography. Check him out.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Cheers! And thanks for sharing John too, less copy and paste in the future!

[@stevesvids]

Well done George 👏 Spot on.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks Steve!

[@Hackzyyz]

i think it has to do more with people wanting quick results so they follow the trends and the algorithum in social media affects how poeple shoot instead of straying from the norm people now and days will look for whatever gets them views

[@GeorgeHolden]

That is true, I do also think it's the more popular examples we see are so prominent compared to digging a bit deeper elsewhere

[@melody3741]

Get a polaroid and film. Go on your usual walk. Make it a goal to take pictures but not use it all. Or put a really small sd card might work. Then you really have to think about each one and only go with the ones you really "feel"

[@GeorgeHolden]

Good idea 👍

[@mikelgonzalez6298]

Wonderful perspective!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Synchrodipity]

I'm watching this and viewing Instagram at the same time -- interestingly the Photographer's Gallery has just posted one of these clichéd street shots to advertise an event they're holding! It seems like nobody is immune!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Oh wow! I think hopefully this will begin to shift in the next few years

[@chrisgawatphoto]

This is such great advice and a great take on trendy photos

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching!

[@pdel7007]

Great debate that will roll on. The main thing is we enjoy the challenge of using our cameras

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yes!

[@analogandnot]

I’m quite new to street photography I use a rangefinder camera with a 28mm and I dress back and almost always shoot from the hip where my camera is not that visible I usually just zone focus at 1.5m and walk around on narrow streets in the hipster areas and look for interesting things and people and try to photograph them

[@GeorgeHolden]

That sounds like a great combination! I use 28mm on an SLR, just picked up a rangefinder too.

[@glitch314]

This video is the Best photography advice i had

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's great to hear 🙏

[@stevegodsell]

Really good video. Could we argue that Street Photography is really what happens to Documentary or Reportage when the skill or time to discover and reveal a story is removed? Alternatively, is the deluge of similar shots just an example of copying work due to a lack of imagination just for the sake of likes? Either way, I totally agree..... it's getting boring!

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's an interesting argument, and yes is it that likes correlate with a certain style at the moment? No one photographer would admit "I'm copying X photographer" but there are likely cases. Hopefully it's just a slow transition from photographers being too exposed to social media and chasing popularity vs chasing what interests them

[@PJBill]

Wow nice meditation George, please do more of these.

[@GeorgeHolden]

More on the way!

[@dirksterzik]

The phenomenon you are describing is of course not new and is not only encountered in photography. Wherever something is taught, there are students who try out what they have learned. Many of these students, and this will be the majority, will forever do what they learned from their teacher. But there are always students who go above and beyond that. But of course there is another problem, for some it's not about development, but only about likes, so many just follow trends, i.e. deliver what the consumer "wants" to see. Social media is a problem. Instagram, for example, is no longer a photo platform, but a sales platform. My impression is that more and more pictures are being taken and at the same time less and less is being photographed.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Evoke]

Very few people will choose true substance over popularity. Substance is also hard, and takes a lot of soul work and self awareness. Not every 26 year olds cup of tea.

[@GeorgeHolden]

This is true, it's a dedication rather than quick success

[@KofieBluejay]

As the other people saying here, I could not agree more! Of course composition is still important sometimes, and I think famous photographers in history are just used to frame their pictures with a certain spice. Although, sometimes that social medias killed is the creativity and respect of a single mind. If I go to a photographer exposition, I wanna see how they are thinking, what they see through their own eyes and brain. I struggle a lot with storytelling in my pictures, I know I should look more and take my time. And it's nice to see other photographers saying that instead of following trends, just take a picture that you want and love. At the end, the only feeling that matter is the one you get when you look at what you have produced. NB; I think we should really burn our phones and stop social medias. At least for me, it has became so central in our life that I'm afraid I see creativity being killed, not celebrated. Some sort of hypocritical discourse, in a way. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I have stoped looking through social medias for creativity and inspiration (except in specific fandoms but that's another story). I still use Instagram to share my pictures to people and friends, but I try not to look at my feed. It's really just like a portofolio.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for watching!

[@dasaen]

Destroy the phones, they are the “let’s do blue and yellow!” equivalent to photography 😂😢

[@GeorgeHolden]

Blue and yellow to the moooon

[@Raist3db]

I would love this video but talking about people that do not watch instagram or internet tubes too much, and just want to break from what they are doing as habits. I was able to get some of that a tiny bit in this video, but would love to hear a perspective without thinking about using/watchign social media (I don't use instagram at all). Still, good video, good thoughts.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks, the social media perspective is the video so another perspective could be another video

[@themastersoftech]

Hi George, great video! What is the name of the book with the red cover, which has photos taken in China (?). Thanks!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Hi! Thanks, it's Magnum Streetwise

[@ABC-sc2ip]

The first mistake is going anywhere near Instagram. If you want to make better pictures, study better artists. Look at the masters of painting. Study them. Understand composition and light from them. See how they capture people, scenes, and the soul of a place. Marvel at how the masters layer their paintings with different elements, compositional flourishes, colour, and light. Then go out and shoot a Rembrandt or a Monet on the streets.

[@GeorgeHolden]

This is true

[@sk077y_video]

Brilliant! Well said!!!!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks!

[@TheWutangclan1995]

To me it seems they’re all scared of people, don’t know how to approach, or are scared of taking pictures of people head on and in some instances use a zoom standing in one corner. Now I use to be the timid photographer who shoots the back of peoples heads to avoid photographers. But if you look at photo books which is like Instagram back then, all of these well respected photographers will shoot head on.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yes exactly, the books of the past rarely show similar trends of today

[@TylerHealy-u6r]

Your videos on the Olympus camera have been very inspiring. I really missed out on an awesome setup because of the sensor. I was wrong. Thanks for your videos. Please limit the butt crack photos.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Hahaha, yes cracks will be omitted in future 😅 and thank you, I'm glad my videos have been useful for you!

[@slothsarecool]

Composition is kind of dime a dozen, it’s important but as you said it doesn’t make a photo. These trendy photos always looked super generic anyway

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agreed!

[@BGTuyau]

Good points amidst the verbiage so typical of British KZbin photographers-if you can extract them and put the advice to use. But did I notice that the Elliott Erwitt dog-on-the-surfboard is dodged? A further look suggests Yes.

[@GeorgeHolden]

I'll try to speak with fewer words in future 😂 I think you may be right on the Erwitt dog pic!

[@Angrygoldstar682]

trends seem to be weird but i see that 😅

[@GeorgeHolden]

They are!

[@lrnzccn5378]

Pleasant and well done as usual, but the trend towards stating that content is more important than composition seems cliché too these days.... There are people like myself who are naturally drawn to geometry and "meaningless", "story less" compositions. I think that trying to devise a general rule is probably contributing to the mainstream thinking...

[@ciarancosgrave]

Excelent video. I can relate. Big time...

[@ThomKurve]

Everyone should just go and make some pictures - forget about the hashtags.

[@GeorgeHolden]

This is true

[@hogg1media627]

There are different perspectives. I just started, and my stuff already looks different. There are many photographers who began their journey by learning from content shooters, There are some people who shoot to record a moment in life. Not just for sport. You have people who kill animals to showcase their tools, or perhaps to mount a head on their wall. Then you have your people who kill animals to survive and respect their food. Same with photographers...

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Nerdzombiedisco]

I have mastered the street photography I see on YT and instagram. On film and digital Leicas. And I am bored. Been shooting with digicam cameras recently. Maybe I'lll take up golf.

[@GeorgeHolden]

😂

[@DebiSenGupta]

This is a great video. I am not a good photographer but want to do better. And this one made me think. Can you please share the names of the books you were showing?

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks! Yes of course: Magnum Streetwise, Magnum Ireland, "Dogs" Elliott Erwitt

[@DebiSenGupta]

@@GeorgeHolden thanks. I have started collecting photo books this year. Unfortunately not a great choice available here in India but I am still building a good library and will add these to my list

[@GeorgeHolden]

@@DebiSenGupta I understand, it may be worth looking for online PDF versions too if you want to find some more soon