Why Ms. Marvel's Powers Are a BIG Deal

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After taking a look at the new Marvel Studios' Ms. Marvel trailer, Josh from Panels to Pixels takes a look at the controversial change to Kamala Khan's powers.
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@keithgehman3945
@keithgehman3945 2 жыл бұрын
The lesson "good isn't a thing you are, it's a thing you do" is such an incredible line. Truly inspiring of wilson to write
@robertcoogan1070
@robertcoogan1070 2 жыл бұрын
And as a reward the MCU rakes her powers over the coals.
@Phronesis7
@Phronesis7 Жыл бұрын
I love that her dad delivered that awesome line because the bad MCU dad thing is played out
@thekrakenexperiment280
@thekrakenexperiment280 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that more people are talking about this change. Another weird thing to me is that changing a character’s powers is kinda unusual for the MCU. Characters like Captain America, Thor, Black Panther, and Dr. Strange have mostly the same power set. Even characters that changed quite a bit like Falcon and Spider-Man still have their core concept intact. Why was Kamala’s powers altered so drastically compared to everyone else?
@terrellthaddies7867
@terrellthaddies7867 2 жыл бұрын
She will still expand. It's in the trailer
@sleeptheghost106
@sleeptheghost106 2 жыл бұрын
They have actually had some big misses, most notably thanos, who had absolutely no energy projection or manipulation without the stones
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeptheghost106 Buuu
@ye87
@ye87 2 жыл бұрын
If ur a comic fan you kno it’s bc she not a popular character in the comics and she was created recently and has been cancelled like 10 time already they’ve been trying too force her down our throats think 🤔 about it we gettin a tv show about an unliked character from the comics bf a silver surfer movie
@thekrakenexperiment280
@thekrakenexperiment280 2 жыл бұрын
@@ye87 If you were a comic fan, you’d know that Ms Marvel was so successful that her first issue got seven printings (a feat typically reserved for the likes of Spider-Man and Batman) and she has become the most critically acclaimed modern Marvel hero next to Miles Morales. You would also know that the reason why we haven’t gotten a Silver Surfer movie is because Marvel didn’t have the movie rights to Fantastic Four characters for a long time and only just recently have been introducing Fantastic Four elements. Just because the character wasn’t created for your very specific demographic, doesn’t mean that she is an unliked character. Far from it in fact. Do you know how many Ms Marvel knockoffs Marvel tried to make during the Champions run that never took off? That’s because Kamala had something that people gravitated towards that the other heroes didn’t.
@owena7236
@owena7236 2 жыл бұрын
The idea that Reed *needs* to be the first stretchy MCU hero is just ridiculous to me, it would be a meaningless gesture (he's already had four movies anyway) and the casualty of that gesture is a massive part of Ms Marvel's character. Why should her existence or presentation pivot around Mr Fantastic? I say that as a massive Fantastic Four fan, I honestly don't care, these people may as well get mad at Korg for being a rocky hero before the Thing. Great video as always, Josh
@ColorlessRonin
@ColorlessRonin 2 жыл бұрын
5:42 Not just that, but War Machine, White Clone Vision, and Kate Bishop exist too. Duplicate powers is a non-issue, it’s what you do with them that matters the most. And currently, my working theory is both budget concerns and a desperate attempt at connecting this version of Kamala Kahn to this universe’s Captain Marvel.
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 жыл бұрын
It's insane how they rushed ms marvel and Monica rambau into the mcum don't get me wrong I'm happy for more representation I just think that part of the reason ms marvel worked I the comics is because Carol was a big name superhero on earth in the mcu she has only had one movie and has barely interacted with the public. They are cutting corners. Build a strong legacy for carol first then bring in kamala. And Monica didn't even get her own origin. It was just awkwardly crammed into scarlet witch's big buget TV meltdown.
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын
you dude know that the examples you named they have some relation ship with the one they are copying right?
@ColorlessRonin
@ColorlessRonin 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-km4lo8zz6z Kate Bishop has no relationship to Barton, White Vision is a clone not a son, and War Machine wasn’t even Tony’s invention that was all Rodey for stealing his armor for the military. My argument still stands regardless if your point stood any ground, because it is talking about the existence of duplicate powers.
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын
@@ColorlessRonin i am not talking about family relations? i thought that was clear. all those you name there have some start of relation (wether it was a friendship or just simply being close to the other charracter story wise. ms marvel and mr fantastic don't have any of that. so no your argument does not stand as those characters are completly different to ms marvel
@ColorlessRonin
@ColorlessRonin 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-km4lo8zz6z First off, you spelled “whether” wrong so you basically said “castrated ram” instead, very funny. Secondly you said “relationship” and that is what I’ve addressed. Thirdly, they’re all still examples of duplicate super powers, so my point still stands. And fourthly, if you REALLLY want me to name characters that share the same abilities with ZERO relation to one another, just think of the fast mute from Eternals and QuickSilver. Or Captain Marvel with Not-Superman from Eternals (and yeah there is technically a difference but shooting lasers from your eyes vs your arms are still the same functionally speaking since it is a laser that hurts things). Or like the guy in the video said, all of the different super soldiers running around. Or Scarlet Witch and Dr.Strange (and all the Wizards in the Sanctum Sanctorum). The point being that whether or not they have anything to do with each other is irrelevant, duplicate powers have always been a thing, so trying to say that Kamala can’t have the longness just because Mr.Fantastic is gonna exist in this universe soon is a bad argument.
@Mitsuraga
@Mitsuraga 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the comparison to Reed Richards... they aren't even the same powers, not really. I mean, yeah, they can both stretch and make parts of their bodies bigger, but that's where the similarities end. Kamala has the ability to alter the mass of any part of her body, making it longer or bigger, but it's more like an extension than true stretching, because that mass comes from somewhere else. Mister Fantastic, meanwhile, has the ability to alter the *form* of any part of his body at will. He can reshape himself into a parachute or a wheel or a ball, and he can absorb basically any impact. These are things which Ms. Marvel cannot do, but Reed is limited by his existing body mass, which is not a limitation that Kamala faces, and so he can only stretch so far before he's too weak to do anything, and he's not known for getting big.
@kawaiihaki2480
@kawaiihaki2480 2 ай бұрын
so its a knock off of the gum gum fruit luffy has.
@andrewjohnson6716
@andrewjohnson6716 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and well said. I would further add that her powers were a brilliant visual metaphor. My ex-wife is "third culture" (mixed race, several languages, belonging to two different cultures while growing up in a third). She had described the experience as constantly trying to "twist, stretch and shape herself to fit all the aspects of herself".
@magortom
@magortom Жыл бұрын
"To which I say, ' How many super soldiers are in the MCU again?'" LIVING FOR THIS REBUTTAL.
@mrmiddlestone4037
@mrmiddlestone4037 Жыл бұрын
Ms marvel using her stretchy powers in new ways is such a fun part of the comics. I haven’t read too many of them, but I remember that one of the things I liked most was how she grew her feet big to take less fall damage, or grew her hands big for extra strength. Having energy that you can make anything out of just means you don’t need ingenuity, you just need to make the best thing.
@batbugz
@batbugz 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully put. Ive been a fan of her character for a while based on her personality and power set. The trailer pushed me to read the first issue and I fell in love with it. I love the MCU but this change is a big miss to me.
@cantagiousca5220
@cantagiousca5220 2 жыл бұрын
The I am a muslim killed it dead for me,she gains all these powers and she believes in a God? An earthly god?? Bullshit!
@batbugz
@batbugz 2 жыл бұрын
@@cantagiousca5220 you should go look at other characters if that bothers you. Thats a base part of her character.
@ZenithPotentia
@ZenithPotentia 2 жыл бұрын
@@cantagiousca5220 That seems more like a you problem than anything else. Just because there are powers in the Marvel universe doesnt mean the characters cant be religious.
@cantagiousca5220
@cantagiousca5220 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenithPotentia it's a no from me,have fun allah akbar and all that shit,that plus everything religous in movies is horses shit,marvel have destroyed all their other comics so far being woke,you can protect it all you want,it dont mean it's not gona be another pile of horse jizz
@iamhardwell2844
@iamhardwell2844 Жыл бұрын
@@cantagiousca5220 its 2022 movie still promote ancient religion
@majestyvondoom
@majestyvondoom 2 жыл бұрын
The MCU made Kamala’s uncomfortable odd looking stretchy powers into sparkly shiny powers that are closer to Green Lantern than Ms Marvel’s comic counterpart
@terrellthaddies7867
@terrellthaddies7867 2 жыл бұрын
She will still expand her limbs. It's in the trailer
@Mauricio0973
@Mauricio0973 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrellthaddies7867 she doesn't expand her limbs, it's just an energy construct, unfortunately
@kyledenson1287
@kyledenson1287 Жыл бұрын
Probably because they don’t want her to be overshadowed by Mr. Fantastic in the MCU
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 4 ай бұрын
@@kyledenson1287 The arguments around Mr. Fantastic in the MCU is dumb. The MCU has many duplicate powers, and Kamala and Reed won't be in the same movies.
@kyledenson1287
@kyledenson1287 4 ай бұрын
@@SeanWheeler100 They just need to retire Ms. Marvel, and move on! She is incredible boring, and adds nothing to Marvel’s legacy.
@blackout9402
@blackout9402 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so upset about her power change, her powers are such an integral part of her journey. I’m not surprised the mcu is taking away something that makes her so interesting since they’ve done it to so many mcu characters but it still hurts
@blackout9402
@blackout9402 2 жыл бұрын
Iman does embody what kamalas personality is and they got someone who is Pakistani which makes me happy and the trailer is good but I feel that her story won’t be as effective it was as the comics
@blackout9402
@blackout9402 2 жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey ofc it will but it won’t be as effective as it was in the comics. Although the shows not out yet so maybe I’ll be wrong. Also it’s Disney, there’s a high chance they will water down some of the aspects of her Muslim and Pakistani life but I’m hoping disney/marvel studios gave full reign to the creative team
@yrjkeenwa6584
@yrjkeenwa6584 2 жыл бұрын
One gun shot to her while she’s big and ms marvel is done 😂😂 I think maybe that’s why they changed it
@blackout9402
@blackout9402 2 жыл бұрын
@@yrjkeenwa6584you know she has a healing factor right?
@yrjkeenwa6584
@yrjkeenwa6584 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackout9402 no but I do now, haha thanks. Obviously I don’t know too much bout her. But as a person who really only seen her in the one avengers game. I’m glad for this change of her powers ngl
@thelunaist2014
@thelunaist2014 2 жыл бұрын
This would have been a great excuse to redo the Inhumans properly since that's part of character interacting with other Inhumans mainly Lockjaw. Even the Captain Marvel obsession is barely a factor since later on during Civil War 2 she turns against her suppose mentor.
@hujan1744
@hujan1744 2 жыл бұрын
I heard they didn't want a muslim girl be connected to the title of inhuman, whitch eh, i can see how someone could make that connection but at the same time the comics exists and there it don't seem to be an issue, kinda reminds me of Disneys Artemis Fowl.....also why's MCU's Khamala a Cap Marvel fan when Carol isn't much of a heo in the MCU.
@kipolem53
@kipolem53 Жыл бұрын
INHUMANS NOT NEEDED. the MCU has mutants, which peole care a good deal more about than Inhumans.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 4 ай бұрын
@@kipolem53 The MCU could have introduced mutant characters from the comics as mutants instead of changing an Inhuman to one.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 2 жыл бұрын
I agree changing ms marvel powers to green lantern really makes no sense to me.
@THEDARQUEKNIGHT
@THEDARQUEKNIGHT 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 2 жыл бұрын
@@THEDARQUEKNIGHT indeed which is odd because honestly out of all the things to change why do this change to Kamala kahn powers to cosmic base powers like wouldn't the better option for Kamala kahn would to keep her stretchy powers and shapeshifting powers intact and forget the inhumans origins nonsense like its not that hard at least in my opinion.
@wiltisdabest
@wiltisdabest 2 жыл бұрын
@@TevyaSmolka or use it as the way to introduce the inhumans.
@vikvondoom
@vikvondoom 2 жыл бұрын
There was a recent update that this is not her “final form” I guess. Maybe in the way which they introduce the actual Terrigen mist since name dropping it in MoM but with mutants around the corner I think introducing inhuman might cause confusion in the general crowd.
@vikvondoom
@vikvondoom 2 жыл бұрын
Also these green latern powers kind of fit her in better with the cosmic powers of captain marvel and photon for the marvels movie
@cee_mee0672
@cee_mee0672 Жыл бұрын
The fact they might want to keep her different from Reed Richards is baffling me. Now her powers are like Susan Storms powers (The Invisible Woman). The creation of force fields and constructs was meant for Sue. I mean yes it's like Green Lantern but we are talking about Marvel here. If we are supposed to get a Fantastic 4 movie then why change her powers?
@criticalthought1112
@criticalthought1112 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope this whole power change doesn’t affect the comics or cartoons.
@-Teague-
@-Teague- 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh they're definitely bout to make her get the nega bands in the comics aren't they 😩
@criticalthought1112
@criticalthought1112 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Teague- I hope not. But marvels willing to do some annoying stuff in the name of brand synergy.
@-Teague-
@-Teague- 2 жыл бұрын
@@criticalthought1112 thankfully the moon knight comics seem to have escaped it but it's a scary prospect with Ms. Marvel since she's somewhat less established
@criticalthought1112
@criticalthought1112 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Teague- yeah that is very worrying. I’m not completely familiar with the character, I only really know her from the champions books, but I always thought her powers were cool, and the new ones… they’re just super generic.
@-Teague-
@-Teague- 2 жыл бұрын
@@criticalthought1112 dude I love Champions so much. Yeah her abilities were way beyond Mr fantastics if I remember she could grow and shrink which he can't
@humachine6738
@humachine6738 2 жыл бұрын
I think Marvel Studio's insistence on having a shared universe is starting to cause problems. Particularly with character's backstories and power sets. It also doesn't help that I think we've reached the breaking point of what we can do with superheroes in live action. We need more ANIMATED Marvel movies/shows to compete with DC's animated shows/movies. Kind of like those Marvel animated movies they were making with Lionsgate before the MCU got HUGELY popular and stopped making them. I really wish Disney/Marvel Studios decided to make Ms. Marvel into an animated show so they could avoid the uncanny valley completely and not have to change her powers.
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 жыл бұрын
Shared universe is totally creating problems with backstop and powers. Marvel is making universe cohesion and sequel/spinoff set up come first and prioritizing it above telling a good story.
@undead_corsair
@undead_corsair 2 жыл бұрын
Some things in comics certainly don't make the translation to live action all that well. Animation is imo the superior format for comic book adaptation, if we look at what was achieved with Spiderverse I think it's clear how incredible an animated MCU could be. But they're committed to live action for the most part and I don't think they'd introduce any new important characters via animation. Especially when they want stuff to cross over. There are costs and benefits to a live action interconnected universe.
@undead_corsair
@undead_corsair 2 жыл бұрын
@@galactic85 Nope, No Way Home proved Marvel can do universe cohesion, setup for other movies and characters, a ton of fanservice and a great character story all in one movie. But expecting them to do that in every movie is naive. With a cinematic universe that's gotten so big you can't generalise, there's always been great stuff, and there's always been some mediocre stuff too with the range between.
@AlonzoTompkins
@AlonzoTompkins 2 жыл бұрын
Sad part is that I think the Mr. Fantastic thing is the reason. Even when it makes no sense. Especially with the point you made on the super soldier characters.
@MrOnepiecem7
@MrOnepiecem7 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense.
@michaelvares1
@michaelvares1 2 жыл бұрын
They probably did a screen test and found that the effect looked really bad in live action so they had to find an alternative. Something that works in one medium won't necessarily work in another.
@Alexander_Kale
@Alexander_Kale 2 жыл бұрын
Hardcore doubt on that notion. Number one, we have so many wacky movies with weird special effects and visuals by now, both cartoon and live action, that the notion itself has become very questionable. Mr Fantastic and Monkey D Luffy have proven that it works in animation at least, and the Live action F4 movies had many problems, the depiction of the powers not being one of them. Number two, new Kamala's powers are so generic and vague in their nature that I am getting Shang Chi flashbacks, where they did a similar dumbing down of the Mandarin's Powers. This looks more like a case of: "We want that muslim girl as our new flagship, but we can't be bothered to think up fun storylines with her own powerset, so let's make it easy for ourselves".
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 жыл бұрын
The 2004 fantastic four movies were bad but I don't think the stretching in them looks horrible. Sure you can tell its cgi now but when those films came out I don't remember anyone complaining that Reed's stretchy powers looked bad. Why has everyone suddenly decided that it would look horrible?
@Joel-sc2ee
@Joel-sc2ee 2 жыл бұрын
Their gonna have to solve the problem for Fantastic Four eventually. They change Reed Richards powers and their will be a massive shit storm.
@andrechad1
@andrechad1 2 жыл бұрын
If they dont have the tecnology, why mess a caracter to do It now and not later and properly?
@thomasmauritsen687
@thomasmauritsen687 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting this video 6 months from now... so imagine my surprise and happiness to watch it just now! 😁 Very good points raised - I hope someone from Marvel watches it and addresses the origin story change (I'm assuming the fact that Inhumans aren't a thing yet in the MCU has a big role to play in their decisions.) Thanks for the timely video!
@RichardJA92
@RichardJA92 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with what's being sacrificed for the change. But hopefully it's still focused on with how they're using her powers. If the rumor is true that the band she is using is the Nega Bands that once belonged to Captain Marvel in the comics, then they could be using that as a tie to Carol and the Kree more directly hence why she's getting included into The Marvels. It's making Kamala's powers more Kree centric instead if Inhuman centric now.
@mox9076
@mox9076 2 жыл бұрын
I think the band is one of the Quantum Bands
@playersinexile72
@playersinexile72 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts: 1. She gets the quantum bands from the Quasar books. 2. This gives her power on a level of Monica Rambeau, America Charvez and Captain Marvel. Which is possibly needed for the Marvels film. 3. It is sad she doesn't have her old powers but I'll give it a chance. 4. I'm actually super stoked the quantum bands may be in the MCU. Just found out: "The Quantum Bands are often confused with the Nega-Bands, the source of the original Captain Marvel's powers. This confusion comes from the fact that they look rather similar to each other and grants similar powers to its wielders." So they could be the Nega bands which would make me sad.
@SeanWheeler100
@SeanWheeler100 4 ай бұрын
So why couldn't they have used Quasar for The Marvels? Phyla-Vell was there in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3.
@richardcoleman3425
@richardcoleman3425 Жыл бұрын
For an "off the cuff" video, this is really good, and displays your usual wit and insight.. Nice one, Josh. Stay safe, fella. :)
@samkaranja5709
@samkaranja5709 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just so sick of marvel's insistence on vague energy powers. Embiggening would have just been more fun though I can get that even with a great budget, that may be a bit hard to do too often
@dariushambrick5909
@dariushambrick5909 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really nice take on the origin of the character’s powers and how significant they are to her identity. Thanks!
@DoritoGOD2811
@DoritoGOD2811 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly never liked her powers. They looked weird. I honestly don't know why, Mr. Fantastic and Mrs. Incredible stretch and it looks fine on them, but whenever Kamala does it it looks weird. Also, apparently her power isn't stretching but just straight up shapeshifting??? And all she does with it is big hands? Cringe.
@mikaylaeager7942
@mikaylaeager7942 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if it was G. Willow Wilson or Sana Amanat who said this, but it was important to them when creating Kamala that her powers not be “pretty” like previous female Marvel heroes.
@YuzuMelodious
@YuzuMelodious 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct as G. Willow Wilson said this: "I knew from the beginning I didn't want her to have sparkly, hand wave-y, floaty, pretty powers."
@mikaylaeager7942
@mikaylaeager7942 2 жыл бұрын
@@YuzuMelodious I think this is a really underrated part of why Kamala felt so groundbreaking. Even Marvels incredibly powerful roster of female hero’s all had exactly that, floaty-sparkly powers.
@technounionrepresentative4274
@technounionrepresentative4274 7 ай бұрын
my issue is kinda petty, there is a captain marvel adjacent hero namaed Quasar, his solo comic from the 90s was the first marvel comic i collected in it's entirety so the character is quite close to me, his powers are similar to green lantern from DC, he can make energy constructs, he can fly, and he can basically teleport from solar system to solar system all of this is possible due to a power artifact called the "quantum bands", when kamala was introduced to the mcu she was given the ability to create light constructs using a pair of bracelets and she is a captain marvel adjacent character, the mcu basically took the abilities of one of my favorite marvel characters and slapped them onto a separate character just because they wanted to avoid comparisons to mr fantastic, quasar as a character has always been perceived as a "wait who is that?" character by fans and the mcu is really influential to pop culture and comics so now the character is buried even further, now when people think of the captain marvel adjacent character who can make energy\light constructs people will think of kamala instead of my boy quasar also to a lesser extent i have always liked ms marvel so they also changed a character i have always liked for kinda lazy reasons
@SUPERLINKX2
@SUPERLINKX2 Жыл бұрын
Maan, you practically predicted on how bad they represented Kamala in the show. It completely missed the whole point of her character. They basically just used her to introduce mutants
@OoXLR8oO
@OoXLR8oO Жыл бұрын
How so?
@chrispowers187
@chrispowers187 Жыл бұрын
Did they just want a female green lantern. That's basically what she is now. You can't change everything about a character and then name the character the same name. She is not ms marvel she is a green lantern. What's even more messed up is they blame the audience for the bad reviews. That tells me they will not learn anything because it's not there fult it's the people that had nothing to do with making it.
@xocutievxo
@xocutievxo Жыл бұрын
The new powers make so much sense considering her family and culture. For example the latest episode takes place in karachi "city of lights" and her powers are literally lights manifested. I am happy with the changes it was done well.
@donb7519
@donb7519 Жыл бұрын
funny enough i had the exact opposite reaction i hate how for lack of a better term "isolationist" it feels like of course our pakistani hero has powers related to pakistani culture why would we show that your powers dont need to come from some heritage when we can hammer in how important it is instead
@sindelretconpolice1630
@sindelretconpolice1630 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who didn’t actually think the trailer looked that bad I genuinely hate the power change. She’s similar to mr fantastic power wise sure but reed is known for his intelligence not his power set. I genuinely hate that they are changing the powers so annoying honestly. Maybe getting him rid of the inhuman origin story fine but changing the characters powers. Hell no
@mr.potato_cool437
@mr.potato_cool437 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a moon knight vibe from the self personality
@chrismedina3955
@chrismedina3955 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh when it comes to MCU changes, you have to see the bigger picture since they all connect. Kamala is going to be part of The Marvels, along with Carol and Monica, who both have cosmic energy abilities. I believe the change wasn’t only because of Mr. Fantastic, but so her powers can have similar signatures. Just my theory tho.
@andrechad1
@andrechad1 2 жыл бұрын
But why Thay have to bem similar? Why they have to cosmic? The fan aspect of Kamala to Cap. Marvel and a girl discovering ver Powers?
@aakashsrivastava133
@aakashsrivastava133 Жыл бұрын
I am telling you guys, the reason why she doesn't have stretch powers is because marvel hasn't figured out how to make that CGI without making it look low budget or funny.
@HeyPlannerGurlHey
@HeyPlannerGurlHey 2 жыл бұрын
I love the comic but I'm not mad at it with the changes- I love to see characters come ALIVE. 💙💙✨✨💙💙 Great video :)
@cookingwithghosts1012
@cookingwithghosts1012 2 жыл бұрын
Even my kids are asking questions because they play Lego Marvel games 😂
@_itsjaemi
@_itsjaemi 2 жыл бұрын
After watching the first ep.. i kinda get that she's in Terrigen Process type of thing.. which is she's growing and evolving..and we might see comic accurate kamala in the end of series or in The Marvels movie. Who knows
@aquilmoscicki6620
@aquilmoscicki6620 Жыл бұрын
I think they changed her powers because she looks to close to mr fantastic but still I rather have that then what we get she basically green lantern
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын
5:44. seriously dude? tell me what all of those guys have in common. they all have a connection with each other. does ms marvel have that with mr fantastic?
@jaimelopez364
@jaimelopez364 Жыл бұрын
Will you be making videos about the show as it comes out?
@thorodinson6625
@thorodinson6625 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, guys? U ok? This girl is showing up in the Marvels, and you expect her to just be a spring?
@mickeymouse7726
@mickeymouse7726 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem is that now because of the show the comic book version of the character is going to get her powers and inhuman origin changed as well man I'm not a fan of marvel studios directly or indirectly influencing the source material because than otherwise what is the point of the source material also I've grown to love the inhumans story mostly because of how much I love agents of shield and how that show used the inhumans in a really great way said that they've been banished to the depths of hell and we're not getting the inhumans movie anymore because I love black bolt and Medusa in the inhumans comics
@willdpe1256
@willdpe1256 Жыл бұрын
NO SURRENDER !!!
@hilyfe01
@hilyfe01 2 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee was on inclusion before this toxic ass culture got a hold of it
@valletas
@valletas Жыл бұрын
Why would they change it? Thats like making red hood have mystical powers... Wait
@AllGreyEverything
@AllGreyEverything 2 жыл бұрын
One of the original creators of the character is working on the series. I'm pretty sure they understand the character.
@999fishandchips
@999fishandchips Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@thethirdchimpanzee
@thethirdchimpanzee 2 жыл бұрын
I think it might be because they are planning to introduce the Fantastic Four, and they don't want people seeing Me. Fantastic and saying "Meh, so what. Ms. Marvel can do that!"
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 жыл бұрын
Well said Josh! If any of you are still defending this change please consider these additional factors. 1. The last avengers film has multiple people on screen whose powers amounted to "shooting guns" and "wearing suits of robot armor." No one cared about similar power sets in movie before this so why can't we have two characters with stretchy powers? And as josh pointed out the mcu already has a ton of super soldiers. Why is this where marvel has decides to draw the line? 2. Even if the change makes mister fantastic more unique it makes kamala less unique. She is now the third marvel hero who's powers amount to "glowing colorful cgi energy." Technically the fourth when you consider that dr strange uses his magic to create energy constructs constantly. In the multiverse of madness trailer he literally makes a buzz saw constructs. 3. If budet is a concern then why make this a Disney plus show? Why not make it a full theatrical movie? The marvel brand is strong enough at this point that it will make tons of money.
@oatlaskennedy1308
@oatlaskennedy1308 2 жыл бұрын
You're wrong. There are not enough miss marvel fans out there. People are already crying woke because she's Muslim and a female.
@-Teague-
@-Teague- 2 жыл бұрын
@@oatlaskennedy1308 hm, idk about her not having fans. She's supported her own series several times now as well as being basically the main character of the Champions books ever since _Marvel Now!_ I think there are definitely quite a few people interested in her and it wouldn't be too hard to get more people to be. And as for people who call it "woke" to showcase people as they are in real life as main characters, they can shove it.
@mikefine619
@mikefine619 9 ай бұрын
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@iamchristian1129
@iamchristian1129 2 жыл бұрын
Just so you guys know, she will still grow and the limbs will expand, the bracelet isn’t really like green lantern’s ring where they project the fist, looks like the bracelet has Quantum energy, pretty much similar to how Ant-Man & the Wasp can shrink and grow with tech, seems like the lights in the bracelet is gonna spread through her body and she will have polymorphism without making her inhuman
@Alexander_Kale
@Alexander_Kale 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been better to put that in the Trailer then. From what we can see, she projects energy shields, projects energy stepping disks and coats her own, very much unchanged limbs in a crackling hardlight construct, so the comparison to Green Lantern is very apt.
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Kale it was put in the trailer. we saw her arm expand expand and limbs too
@Alexander_Kale
@Alexander_Kale 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-km4lo8zz6z You must have watched a different Trailer than I did. The only one scene in the one I saw where you could maybe possibly make that argument was in that split second where she pulls her energy fist back from the camera... Everything else is just green lantern stuff.
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Kale no she also jumped to a building with her limbs stretching. if you look closely you can see that
@user-km4lo8zz6z
@user-km4lo8zz6z 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander_Kale also the point is that they did put it in the trailer
@buttsbrown2442
@buttsbrown2442 2 жыл бұрын
I think the energy powers also link her thematically to Captain Marvel in the MCU.
@Williamfuchs420
@Williamfuchs420 2 жыл бұрын
I think its for two main reasons. First is the fact they have yet to introduce Mr Fantastic and wouldn’t want her powers to preempt his making him look like a second string. Second is that they are trying to tie it to the other Marvel Kree empowered characters. So by giving her powers through the Kree artifact i think will be the Nega Bands it more closely ties her to the other Marvels. Plus we have only seen snippets of her power set her embiggening aspect is even at least partially seen in the trailers. And the Nega Bands have a wild range of power possibilities so allot of her powers could still show up
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 жыл бұрын
So in order to avoid upstaging mister fantastic they gave her yet another set of colorful cgi energy powers that carol Danvers, Scarlet witch and Monica rambeu already have. That's pretty pathetic. Also if they just make her bracelets "negative bands" that's a pretty damn disrespectful thing to do considering rhythm in the source material her bracelets are tied heavily to her heritage and Pakistani history.
@Williamfuchs420
@Williamfuchs420 2 жыл бұрын
@@galactic85 we honestly have little info yet. I have suspicions that she may actually be half Kree witch is why she can even use the bands and that her family history is gonna play into secret invasion. Plus that is exactly what is going on she is meant as the next generation of the Marvel powers just like all the rest of the future young avengers or champions
@nameistron6622
@nameistron6622 2 жыл бұрын
This is great
@tavor2099
@tavor2099 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the power change but I don't like this power for her in particular , in the comics their power help her to take a beating and be kind of safe since her body is very resilient and that help her grow but if your give her and artifact that depends of concentration,dexterity, reflexes etc. What's going to happen if someone tries to shoot her? I don't think she can think faster than a bullet. So I think she is going to be super lucky or one of those characters who pick everything inhumanly fast what kind of take a little of fun out of her character.Even green lanterns go to training camp so maybe they going to give her a mentor
@comradeopthomasthehedgehog
@comradeopthomasthehedgehog Жыл бұрын
Ayo I also made that edit of Ms. Marvel from this thumbnail by coincidence!
@leonwoodford
@leonwoodford 2 жыл бұрын
After seeing The first episode, which was excellent, I’m fine with the change.
@trainerredcharizard7982
@trainerredcharizard7982 Жыл бұрын
Kinda funny that NOW all the NEW fans of MCU can be hyped about kamala`s powers And they DONT even know that they are pretty much what GREEN LANTERN does in DC. Cant wait to see Tumbler/Twitter be a bit of confused when DC has its GL and be all "..But wait..Kamala has these powers first right?" I am being sarcastic though but you just know there will be SOME asking that
@aakashsrivastava133
@aakashsrivastava133 Жыл бұрын
Lol those idiots are definitely gonna do some of it XD....
@SSSMOR.
@SSSMOR. 2 ай бұрын
They changed her powers to be in the marvels not because they was worried of her copying Mr fantastic
@adamgrant188
@adamgrant188 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter what person or ethnicity you are, good isn’t something your are it’s what you do. Disney let’s milk her person and race and change her powers.
@miilexthemii9353
@miilexthemii9353 6 ай бұрын
I'm just saying, Ms. Marvel is a good example of why the MCU should be animated instead.
@IanBerg
@IanBerg Жыл бұрын
I’m three episodes into the show and I’m surprised she can’t ran super fast and she isn’t super strong. She just shoots a kind of plasma that quickly hardens into a shield, floating stepping stone or fist as needed.
@kaz4184
@kaz4184 Жыл бұрын
She's a new character, literally. Powers are changed, her bracelets from grandma are changed to shooting laser things, and now shes round, short and ugly. Captain Marvel aunt reference?
@OldDirtyCollector
@OldDirtyCollector 11 ай бұрын
Marvel studios probably changed her powers because of Mr Fantastic. Mr Fantastic is far more well known and popular than Kahn. Plus, the fantastic four is about to come out within the next year and probably didn’t want two characters with similar powers. Everyone knows Cap Super soldier serum cannot be duplicated to a T. It essentially died with urskin. Yes there are “super soldiers” but none on caps level and everyone knows that. They even said that in cap and the winter soldier. So that argument doesn’t hold water. Also cap was established in the MCU far before any of those others and is far more iconic
@kjaime7030
@kjaime7030 2 жыл бұрын
Asked and answered, counselor. Sources near Feige's inner circle say it's a simple matter that they're about to introduce the Fantastic 4 and Mr. Fantastic to the MCU--and already have in a fleeting way in Multiverse of Madness), and because her powers in the comics are so similar to those of Reed Richards they wanted to differentiate them more since they're being introduced in the same time period. Also I've heard rumors that they are adjusting the origin of the powers--not the bracelet macguffin but where IT got those powers--to make it more similar to that of Carol Danvers and thus wanted her to have some similar powers with some blasts, even if a bit Captain Marvel Lite. Remember that the MCU is NOT a full and faithful adaptation from the comics and never has been. Go back and read the original Thor comics and tell me where all of THAT is in the MCU.
@endofaneraoutnow3473
@endofaneraoutnow3473 Жыл бұрын
I hate the live action. The real Ms Marvel doesn’t have energy powers. She can change her size and body part sizes.
@michaelbest9113
@michaelbest9113 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't recognize Isiah Bradley when you said Super Soldiers. I'm not racist and I don't feel like you're racist either. I'm just a comic nerd subscribed to your channel because I enjoy your videos. I'm sure you wouldn't mind if you lost a subscriber or anything. But it's not that serious with me. I just feel the need to bring Isiah Bradley up because that was the whole point even though it's fiction he still felt overshadowed and forgotten. You gave great ideas of super Soldiers and if I'm to be honest with myself, regardless of race these are still more popularized characters than Isiah Bradley and I love them especially Steve Rogers then Peggy. But I'm just saying. I get it it. It wasn't that serious. But as a black comic book need I would've enjoyed just seeing Isiah Bradley recognized when you mentioned super Soldiers. I mean we all are in this comic book community together. If someone black had a video saying there are other super Soldiers but only showed an example of Isiah Bradley I would have felt the same way depending on the way it was presented and the comment that came with it. Well I'm not expecting you to read this or actually give af but I hope you're a great person like believe you are a just try to understand where I'm coming from. It shouldn't matter but it does...Respect. I love you you brother. Keep up the good work.
@DarinRWagner
@DarinRWagner 2 жыл бұрын
I think they did it in part because Fantastic Four (and specifically Mr. Fantastic) are coming in a film and they didn't want Mr. Fantastic's powers to feel redundant.
@humachine6738
@humachine6738 2 жыл бұрын
Highly unlikely. There are like 5 super soldier characters similar to Captain America in the MCU. Josh says it himself in the video.
@ldiod4374
@ldiod4374 2 жыл бұрын
And her new powers are similar to Invisible Woman’s, so that would make her feel redundant based on that logic.
@lordtrigon1733
@lordtrigon1733 2 жыл бұрын
Odd then, what they let Wanda do to him...
@aerialXace
@aerialXace 2 жыл бұрын
Theyre saving the elastic look for Reed Richards
@scottmacleod2944
@scottmacleod2944 2 жыл бұрын
It aired today yet I doubt I'll watch an episode anytime soon. I'm okay with tweaking a character but that is definitely not what they did to a character I'm a fan of
@SpaceMagicStorm
@SpaceMagicStorm 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope the show does the character justice, she's such a sweet dorky kid and watching her grow and come into her own is one of the best parts of her story.
@bRyaN.K.B3nz
@bRyaN.K.B3nz 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s because they are about to introduce the fantastic 4, so if her powers are just to get bigger and stretch out she will be outshined by Reed Richards.
@ARIEL_BLU
@ARIEL_BLU 2 жыл бұрын
Why we can be happy from what we got is that so much pain for you guys we are never happy from anything is constant why they did or don't and then they loosing money and don't want to do more cool progiect like this just be happy and enjoy ride and remember that this actors has heart and they doing this for fun whit pleasure and for you guys but you always cry and say how bad or how horrible or what not I sent you lots of love and hope you understand that to be happy don't need a lot enjoy you day
@meamwayne2070
@meamwayne2070 Жыл бұрын
So her original powers were boring Plastic Man? What a loss that they didn't blow their whole budget doing boring Plastic Man.
@josettestpreux7610
@josettestpreux7610 2 жыл бұрын
Another universe get with it like the answer is a freaking other universe and you're like all saying why her powers are different it's because of another universe cuz you guys all know that the MCU is not a comic universe
@tonyanthony5105
@tonyanthony5105 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed this and immediately thought, oh the MCU hasn’t done Mr. Fantastic yet, so they won’t be doing this right so they can save it for him…. Sad…? I think
@giddeonlazarus2093
@giddeonlazarus2093 2 жыл бұрын
It would look like a cable disney film if they did the big hand things.
@vsnrm5451
@vsnrm5451 Жыл бұрын
I got kinda disappointed when watching the show. I haven't read the original so I didn't know her powers were different, but whenever there's a new sueprhero I'm always looking forward to seeing if they have cool, unique powers. So when I saw her powers I just felt that they were sort of... Basic. I mean they did do some cool things with it, but it was just like you can lump her together with a ton of the other ones with similar powers. I wish they had kept her stretch and grow powers, even if they might look more boring in terms of visual effects compared to the glowy, crystalized powers she has now, it just feels more creative and limited (in a good way).
@SunnyE_Mechwarrior
@SunnyE_Mechwarrior Жыл бұрын
Ms.Marvel comics and in Animation she has been great. It's not ironic that some people compared Kamala Khan to Peter Parker, same school - life - heroing anxieties and all the trouble and tribulations that comes with that. Remember in the comics her powers comes from the Terrigen Mists which brings in the whole Inhumans and everyone remember how bad of a series that was. I understand the need to change it but it the also changed the powers to be energy probably be cheaper CGI. But it does feel like a cop out... also as the story developing I just feel this isn't the character of Ms. Marvel. I dunno if it's the writing, the directing or actress but it just feel it's missing her personality and character that comes off the comics
@masblunika
@masblunika Жыл бұрын
She has gum gum fruit powers
@rockyluan
@rockyluan Жыл бұрын
Apparently, her powers haven't been quite defined yet. The end of the first season gives an explanation in regards to her DNA and the after credits also gives an Easter egg. The show is good!
@Extralargebuttss
@Extralargebuttss 2 жыл бұрын
In a way I think they changed her powers because if you think of it if the rumors are true and fantastic four are coming back movies will never let the mr fantastic and ms marvel both be stretchy just a guess though
@ldiod4374
@ldiod4374 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t they let them both have stretchy powers? It’s not like Mr. Fantastic has a monopoly on them. Besides, her new powers similar to Invisible woman’s so that’s a moot point.
@urbnctrl
@urbnctrl Жыл бұрын
Have some faith.. 😉 It will all come together
@Phronesis7
@Phronesis7 Жыл бұрын
Every single concern brought up in this video was addressed in the comics and then fleshed out more by *not* centering Kamala in the one-dimensional lone-wolf-with-sidekicks-and-maybe-a-love-interest ways that they traditionally do with other heroes. The awkward coming-of-age aspects and goofy sense of humour were peppered throughout the series in a more wholistic sense than most so far with the predictable "I have body image issues and parents just don't understand" storylines. In the end, she learns to embiggen amongst other things so that was never lost. She's a marginalized immigrant who is also coming into her own as a young adult and getting to know her family and heritage. They did incredibly well by allowing Kamala to be her full self making her *own* choices without making that identity separate from her family or community because *in collectivist cultures, community and self-identity are linked* they're a necessity not a nice-to-have. Your knowledge of your history and heritage are also just as important as your individuation in these cultures. In the series, they address how family and community are super important to the immigrant experience. Her friends and family are integral to the way her superhero look and identity is formed *which is a far more realistic characterization* of any mentally healthy human being, especially a teenager. They also address the often mischaracterized ways that parents of colour know to show their love to their kids, the importance of food and events like weddings for bringing people together, and the generational divide problem between mothers and daughters of color, something that people without this experience predictably gloss over because they are looking from the outside in but things that are hot topics of discussion online. The comic may have been written about a Pakistani-American but only those living that could have fleshed it out in a way that resonates with the people living that and similar experiences.
@claudioschumi87
@claudioschumi87 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Josh great video as always! I agree I hope the Disney plus show will somehow find a way to rectify the changes in a character like Ms Marvel although I'm not aware fully of the character so for me, the show will be an introduction to her. I will be honest the trailer looked good but I think this will appeal more to teens than us older crowd like myself but I'm willing to give it a shot I just hope it's not just a typical teen flick show like many other Disney shows on teens. I hope we get to see a quirky introduction to the character. I do believe the reason for the change is I think Marvel wanted to have a character that associates with Monica Rambo and Captain Marvel as they have cosmic powers but who knows time will tell i guess.
@443MoneyTrees
@443MoneyTrees 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because big floppy arms look ugly and also she can also make those same arms so
@kristoferkarlocastillo1255
@kristoferkarlocastillo1255 2 жыл бұрын
Gomu-Gomu no!!!
@royedking
@royedking 2 жыл бұрын
BIG HANDS BIG HANDS BIG HANDS!!!!
@deeespinal9666
@deeespinal9666 2 жыл бұрын
In theory is different than in practice...graphics wise it might haved looked to corny or cgi-ish
@jasonbrock2681
@jasonbrock2681 10 ай бұрын
We know now that the change was made as a plot point for the upcoming Marvels show.
@kingjose2261
@kingjose2261 2 жыл бұрын
Cause we already have Mr Fantastic and plastic man miss marvels powers should be to open cat food cans with her mind.
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub 2 жыл бұрын
Some classic things are better
@djxzgalaxylang7703
@djxzgalaxylang7703 2 жыл бұрын
They do change a lot of stuff
@bhushanmorey7120
@bhushanmorey7120 Жыл бұрын
She is Luffy from onepiece... can she use Haki?
@francoisdemorcy5084
@francoisdemorcy5084 2 жыл бұрын
Should not have changed het powers.
@VeganJustToAnnoyYou
@VeganJustToAnnoyYou 2 жыл бұрын
They should have made her a mutant. ( in the mcu )
@totallynote4990
@totallynote4990 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I truly want the series to be good, but the one thing that is like an itch that I’ve been trying to ignore is the “hard-light” ability. Like that shit never happened in the comics.
@999fishandchips
@999fishandchips Жыл бұрын
Who cares, just watch it 🤦🏾‍♂️💀 ur gonna watch it anyways
@kamidubourg550
@kamidubourg550 2 жыл бұрын
Luffy in another universe?
@fumeishinoshi2387
@fumeishinoshi2387 Жыл бұрын
i genuinely have no idea how ppl are saying that mom is good, she's an emotionally manipulative narcissist...
@abby4115
@abby4115 2 жыл бұрын
Did 99% of people who saw the trailer just miss the parts where she does stretch ?
@bigdaddy3137
@bigdaddy3137 2 жыл бұрын
It’s really simple, Inhumans and that’s it.
@galactic85
@galactic85 2 жыл бұрын
Dude they can ignore the inhuman element and still keep her powers the same. Like this is based on a comic. Just show her find these weird unexplained crystals or getting exposed to the slime from teenage mutant ninja turtles.
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 2 жыл бұрын
What?
@scottaftem497
@scottaftem497 2 жыл бұрын
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