now I see why music sucks today, they selling brand not the music
@sktrebleАй бұрын
Hopefully you don’t mean all music. Cuz if it’s popular commercial music then yes, they suck cuz it is about brand, money, whining about love money or sex. But the instrumental music will never let you down.
@russcontactАй бұрын
It’s always been that way, the quality of music isn’t related
@JullianLueАй бұрын
And if they dont you wont buy tbeir CD to play in your radio while you travel on the bus 😂
@Carlosdamiano21 күн бұрын
And they justify it by saying they are "Smart businessmen/women" while real music goes down the drain
@JullianLue21 күн бұрын
@@Carlosdamiano this whine and crying will go down the drain too.... imagine 50 years from now you are no longer here and things remain the same and children if the future revolve and accept it as the norm.... You wont know this nor care cause u would be dead. So tell me now, what's with the waste of whining and crying?? Shut up and evolve!
@KenshoBeats2 ай бұрын
Been a musician all my life, never failed, always succeeded in what matters most to a musician: enjoy the process of creating ❤
@saixgebeatz2 ай бұрын
Thats it✨❤️
@7klowns2 ай бұрын
Echo that
@seanfrance31822 ай бұрын
Right on! This is why it’s hard for me to collab, because the other party is always stuck on money and admiration instead of creating.
@OdeyAdie2 ай бұрын
Same here! but you know that the enjoyment of the creative process is best enjoyed when there's the success at sales.PERIOD!!
@KenshoBeats2 ай бұрын
@@OdeyAdie absolutely 💯
@TrevorDanielАй бұрын
rules to the music industry 1. make music you like (obviously work on upgrading your taste as you go) there’s 8billion ppl on the planet you just need a percentage of a percentage to like you. 2. don’t sign - i promise you labels don’t do ANYTHING anymore 3. if you have an idea around the music that’s not the music do it and sell it. it’s about the complete experience. learn how to have fun becoming an overall artist not just a musician ❤️ you got this
@mu_on27 күн бұрын
Wise words right there. Thanks a lot!
@sizwemendu527827 күн бұрын
I agree a 100%. You need to be an ARTIST whose passionate about music. Be as independent and creative as you can, most importantly sell yourself as an artist not a musician.
@Lil_Elegant22 күн бұрын
Exactly
@jimhardiman38362 ай бұрын
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson
@FloydFreudКүн бұрын
That was the good ol' days.
@onechristianwallace2 ай бұрын
Only musicians value music. The general public doesnt and wont pay premium for something they listen for free everyday.
@LeadSurge30002 ай бұрын
*Sad, but true.*
@omniphore4913Ай бұрын
Depends on the audience. I love music, but rarely love the artist enough to go to their concert. And even more rarely come back to another one of their concerts because their audio techs suck. But for music as a business, music certainly isn't that important. Only to use as a way to connect to your target audience. If you want to contribute to that pile of garbage, you're free to do so. But you're a business artist, not a musical artist
@CribNotesАй бұрын
If you're not paying for art....you eventually get worthless art.
@onechristianwallaceАй бұрын
@@CribNotes The fact is the average Joe doesn't give a hoot.
@CribNotesАй бұрын
@@onechristianwallace Then they will get what they deserve. A future of garbage music.
@SenzoClive2 ай бұрын
I had to go to college back in 2022 to learn that music is a marketing tool to sell other things. Venues to sell alcohol and drink, tickets and a nice night out etc... musicians are in the marketing industry, not the music industry
@vincentcrowley51962 ай бұрын
Cinemas are more or less the same. If you can buy a DVD of a film for the cost of one visit to the cinema , its pretty redundant unless they can make more for food and drink
@filteredjc46532 ай бұрын
Yes cinemas make money on the popcorn and drinks, not the tickets
@MrmelodyUs2 ай бұрын
Actually another good thing is to sell DVDs with a rock music videos which are harder to😢 acquire all in one place
@LouYorkLife2 ай бұрын
🎯🎯🎯 you got it!
@bubblegumboyfriend2 ай бұрын
Musicians are tools for the marketer
@TheImageDoctor2 ай бұрын
I've been in marketing nearly 40 years, and in music over 50 years. For average musicians around the world, this video hits the nail on the head. Liked and subscribed just because of this one video. You'll watch a lot of "music industry gurus" online who never explain the grass roots reality of "music" today as well as this guy does in one 20 minute video. Yes, his mic is clipping a bit here and there - who cares. Content is king, and THIS is great content... JM2C
@GergonX2 ай бұрын
It used to be to try to get a lot of gigs so that people could hear your music and then be discovered by a major label. Then came videos, had to have one. Then it was 'touring is the only way to make money'. Now you must be brand and pretend to be musicians. The whole trajectory seems like a soulless goal that will crush the art.
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
Things evolve but think of it differently. If there’s an economic incentive to make music, people will make music for money and not for art. But if there is no economic incentive for music, then the music can be whatever you want it to be. It can be completely about the art. It’s only after the arts created that you figure out how to sell something else. Hope this helps!
@mohamedmahmoud199022 күн бұрын
People stopped writing good music because of believing in this! Good music breaks through.
@NORBZMUSIC2 ай бұрын
Devils advocate: I operate as many MANY aliases, my product IS my music, my money comes from my music, I don't do content, I don't launch ramp to merch or ticket sales, I don't dance like a monkey on tiktok.. I own a label, and run a bunch of artists on top of my own, we're all successful. Things have definitely changed but building out a catalog and selling it later is still a thing and many are still thriving without the modern distractions.
@7ellRecordsbeats2 ай бұрын
trynna be like you bro
@OdeyAdie2 ай бұрын
@@NORBZMUSIC hmmm brotherly! I hear you. I can almost guess where you are from....let me be humble shaa. What he was saying is very very correct, what you're doing is successful,but you may need to incorporate the new school
@alfonhsАй бұрын
The guy gave us a marketing lesson using music to sell rubbish. There are some other points of view, of course. Artists have been along the history to attract people to every cause or religion or product, but don’t tell us the only thing that we can do is selling caps or beauty products. 😂
@alfonhsАй бұрын
Or f***ing T-shirts!😅
@nuke97Ай бұрын
Hmm, you're still pushing a "product" and finding ways to market it. I'm sure we're all thinking of how to be financially stable off of our own music, buy a house, etc. This whole concept seems inescapable.
@386.skaterboy52 ай бұрын
If artists were smart they would stop voluntarily putting their music on streaming services. Thats just my .003 cents
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
@@386.skaterboy5 “that’s just my .003 cents” 👏🏻🤣🔥
@386.skaterboy52 ай бұрын
@@MusiciansIgnite 😂
@Heheha3292 ай бұрын
I think tidals claimed rate is half way to fair honestly.
@tylerk1402 ай бұрын
Is KZbin good?
@386.skaterboy52 ай бұрын
@@tylerk140 KZbin is fine for singles IMO. If it were me, I wouldn't upload my entire album for free.. but to each their own
@TimothyDaxon2 ай бұрын
I had this same thought like 3 years ago, but didn’t know how to put the pieces together. This just confirmed that I’m on the right path. Additionally I’ll say that every artist needs to create a cult like following, a community of dedicated supporters. Like 70% of your marketing efforts should be around serving and growing that community. Gone are the days of NEEDING to be a mega star.
@danyavilaoficial3 ай бұрын
I used to tour with all this Mexican artists as a assistant engineer, runner boy, whatever. One of the things that have stuck to my head is right after the show those long lines of people to take a picture with the artist. A simple Polaroid and a crappy plastic rose somewhere between 12 to 20 bucks. I’m talking about ONE HOUR LONG line minimum. A lot of profit
@erock.steady2 ай бұрын
artists don't sell art, art reps sell art. artists sell a dream.
@SerenaEMorgan2 ай бұрын
Artists sell emotion. It doesn't matter if it is a painting, a book, or a song, it is about emotion. Nobody ever made a popular song about a relationship that went ok until they decided to mutually end things, but there are countless songs about having your heart ripped out.
@roboticvisions29 күн бұрын
@@SerenaEMorgan Ok so I'll tell you some songs about love in a good state. Go listen 'Perfect' by Ed Sheeran. It has 3.8 BILLION views. You want more? Go listen 'A thousand years' by Christina Perri, it has 2.5 BILLION views. You want more? Go listen 'All of me' by John Legend. It has 2.4 BILLION views. Can I tell you a secret about songs? The important thing is the melody and rhythm. Some proved harmony will work. If you don't believe me, ask Psy.
@Thru_My_Lenzz2 ай бұрын
My Brother...You have no idea how much I appreciate this video. It lights up my mental light bulb 🤯💡
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🔥
@petealba7072 ай бұрын
I remember a time when merchandise was supplemental to the art. In my opinion, having lived and been a musician in both eras, the system is being gamed by a lot of folks more interested in attention than creating quality art. There is little to no reward in doing so anyway, since the money is in the merch now. I didn't pick up the guitar thinking " gee, I hope my playing inspires great T shirts!" Don't get me wrong, merchandise is cool and I buy it to support those I believe are putting out quality music, not because it matches my tennis shoes.
@mu_on27 күн бұрын
Greatly put. Some pieces of music do require putting time and somewhat of a listening effort to get into it and appreciate it. (unless you're really high) Let alone listening to an album from start to finish without doing anything else. Who else does that nowadays? Even I don't do it as often as I'd wish. True beauty often isn't that easy to embrace fully , whereas fleeting and forgettable pleasure is. Sadly a lot of music seems to revolve around that nowadays in order to attract more listeners, rather than a quest for beauty. Anyway...!
@jussiniemi95602 ай бұрын
Been a musician and always will be. (almost) Never earned a dime out of it. But got to travel around the world and make music. Making music and playing it is the reward in itself.
@darcyblueampemu2 ай бұрын
Absolute the fresh and new is valuable
@joehazeofficial22 ай бұрын
That's great, but stuff like food requires money. In the U.S bartering is not a thing.
@TJ-bx5px2 ай бұрын
travel around the world AND mak loads of money. Be a Pilot!
@jussiniemi95602 ай бұрын
@@TJ-bx5px make loads of money. be a plumber.
@jussiniemi95602 ай бұрын
@@joehazeofficial2 Bartering is hardly an option anywhere. Self employed here.
@db_camo3 ай бұрын
I’m doing a 5 month break from social media but I be on KZbin for information like this. You different help me see clear on what I need to focus on thank for that 🖤
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
@@db_camo happy to help! 🙏🏻😁
@willboler8303 ай бұрын
This guy's argument is why all the CEOs of these companies deserve your revenue stream. There's not less money involved in music, the money is just piped differently, and they figured out how to pay the artist nothing.
@jeremiahlong2222 ай бұрын
Tru
@SidAlienTV2 ай бұрын
Top Comment!!!!
@elijahtrenton83512 ай бұрын
Do you think Ceos weren't greedy in the 90s? There's just way too much music. New Diy artists are not only competing with other new artists and established mainstream acts, but also long dead artists, influencers trying to diversify, well connected industry plants/nepo-babies and now ai.
@deadplthebadass212 ай бұрын
Okay think of it like this, a business is going to give you a certain amount of money based on how much the employees bring in and split between all employees now think that you're also working against new artists every single day and mainstream artists of course you're going to get paid little to nothing by this logic there's not a lot of money going around their also not making money off your revenue streams which is why their not promoting it as much, unlike the mainstream artists who are actually making the money which is why their promoting it
@javascriptkiddie27182 ай бұрын
How do they even get the license to sell other peoples product for nothing though? If I sell enough Nikes on Ebay without a reseller permit I’ll eventually get a legal document in the mail from them.
@MarmiteMangoMachineАй бұрын
My band sells a range of hot sauces named after our songs. T-shirts are too expensive for the casual fan and are often only a one-time purchase. Edible merch is the way!
@MusiciansIgniteАй бұрын
Ooo hot sauce is a very cool idea! Love this! A+ for ingenuity 🔥👏🏻
@NotAProducer88823 күн бұрын
creative as fuhhh
@BBfanfun2 ай бұрын
this is the End. you can gaslight as much as you want; if MUSIC is not your product , you're not a musician. if selling Merch keeps you going , open a STORE. your music sells TICKETS. all else should be secondary revenue. if that model does not work, there is no "Music Business" anymore. it hasn't evolved, it DIED.
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
@@BBfanfun so you want music itself to be all about the money?
@hegemonycricket21822 ай бұрын
If you are signed to a record label, it is the label who takes care of "branding" and marketing, and sales of not just your music and concerts, but everything thing else like merch--shirts, hats, posters, stickers, keychains, patches, etc. The label does the business part, and the musician/artist does the music part. In the age of social media and streaming, the music labels and record execs have become less relevant, because people can become "famous" or popular on their own. This means there are more independant artists than ever, all putting out music and social media content. If you are doing it on your own with no label, this means you are taking on the role of what the label used to do: the 80% business part, the marketing, branding, merch, etc. It all depends on your goals. If you want to make money by brandifying your music and be a business, go for it. If you want to make music only, go for it. 20% music, 80%business.
@andersistbesserАй бұрын
@@MusiciansIgniteso you want being a dentinst being all about the money? Of course i want to make mone with what i do as a professional! This does not mean you dont like what you do but it means it makes it worth doing it.
@andersistbesserАй бұрын
Amen!
@inhuman_human6790Ай бұрын
@@hegemonycricket2182well said my friend :)
@caryheuchertАй бұрын
This also explains why many of the established artists of decades past (1950’s - 90s) are still popular today. Their music catalogue has a double advantage, with collectable records helping to continue market their brand.
@giovannichiaranti9775Ай бұрын
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@neptunesgold1216Ай бұрын
They are still popular today because their music was good and stood the test of time.
@paulroyle-grimes8279Ай бұрын
People don't buy art. They buy stories. That is why live performance still is king!
@sktrebleАй бұрын
Not everyone’s music is written with live recording though. So people might be disappointed when an artist’s live performances are different from the OG song since it was put in note for note on FL studio or something. Good thing I don’t have a fan base so there’s no one to disappoint when I muster up the balls to live perform my compositions 😅
@CyinikLemonАй бұрын
They could pay for anything. Art is just a Thing. All nice things need Art.
@paulroyle-grimes8279Ай бұрын
@@CyinikLemon I disagree. Art and the arts are the point. They build and preserve the narratives of our cultures.
@MichaelQuintana-z2r23 күн бұрын
Ya my girlfriend art sells
@furrycheetah22 күн бұрын
@@sktrebleOnly Ariana Grande is still doing live performance but take it to the next level of Ariana Grande's music.
@specialbreedsb782 ай бұрын
Just make sure your music is fire and go direct to consumer
@onechristianwallace2 ай бұрын
What's not talked about is majority of the people just don't value music and won't pay for a product they can listen for free across platforms.
@JullianLueАй бұрын
You know WHAT, even if nobody else get you, agrees with you or think you're right, I FOR 1 ALL THE WAY IN JAMAICA TOTALLY AGREE THAT YOU ARE 100% CORRECT!!!
@foljs58582 ай бұрын
"Her clothes, her jewlery, everything that Taylor Swift fans will buy, that it's a commodity, she will sell" So? I'm not in the fucking clothes business, and never wanted to be in the fucking clothes business, to fans or otherwise. If you're talking about "make money some other way" sure, I can keep music as a side-job. But selling clothes and trinkets is not being a musician
@javascriptkiddie27182 ай бұрын
He’s just saying that’s where the bulk of money comes from, not music. Jay Z figured this out in the 2000s. “If somebody woulda told em that Hov would sell clothing, not in my lifetime, wasn’t in my right mind.” Then he made $80M in 18 months years from Rocawear.
@j.gonsalvesАй бұрын
@@javascriptkiddie2718 Bang on Java! 👏
@ImTheFatboy3 ай бұрын
I came up with a new, big sticker that seemed to attract people so I put it in my CDs for free. If they wanted the sticker the music was the bonus, if they wanted the music the sticker was the bonus. I displayed it at the back of a clear CD case so when ppl flipped it over the sticker was there. sold a handful
@Iaintthesharpesttoolintheshed2 ай бұрын
I hate stickers
@redmed1024 күн бұрын
What did the sticker say?
@YariBeatsMedia3 ай бұрын
Go full circle & study the trends in public consumption. As a business to do with offering records. Its not even the experiences as much as that was done that way in the past. Engagement using authentic, transparent & in accurate contexts is what will win you the audience.
@mantrafoxАй бұрын
I think I call it: How the Modern Music Industry Failed us.
@TheJoeyG88Ай бұрын
One of the only fields where you know you're never even gonna break even yet we give it our all anyway, The Passion is just too strong. A Miserable Joy. 🤟
@CribNotesАй бұрын
If music is no longer the "primary product" of music......we fkd up somewhere.
@MusiciansIgniteАй бұрын
Talk to consumers, they’re the ones you have to convince to change.
@CribNotesАй бұрын
@@MusiciansIgnite It's more about music education than consumers.
@CribNotes25 күн бұрын
@@TigerKoehn "The public eagerly allowed it." Okay, so yeah. We fkd up.
@eyvindjr17 күн бұрын
@@CribNotes No, educated musicians consume music just like everyone else. The problem was the rush to make streaming legal, and letting internet providers run away with all the profits.
@CribNotes17 күн бұрын
@@eyvindjr Bullshit. Consumers got used to getting all the music they wanted for free. Those spoiled entitled fks were never going back to paying real money for music again.
@RoyBeatty13 күн бұрын
This is so true. Stoked to see you finding success in this lane my dude!
@MusiciansIgnite13 күн бұрын
@@RoyBeatty hey! thanks bro!! I hope you’re doing well, I miss touring together man! 🔥🙏🏻
@MelodyMathlete2 ай бұрын
Love this video bro! As a songwriter / producer who earns AUD $20-30k per year in royalties from billions of streams, unfortunately the music as a ‘product’ is not enough to live on. If more artists approached their music careers as entrepreneurs operating a business like you mentioned, we’d see less artists having to work a day job just to support their music “hobby”, or worse signing their soul over to a record label who takes 80% of everything. You’ve inspired me to do a video on this too! PS I might DM you to connect 🙏
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the comment dude! Look forward to hearing from you 🤘🏻🔥
@iamthamanic3 ай бұрын
but hasn't the lifestyle of music always been the product. back then labels marketed it, now that labels don't really do any development work anymore and you can also make your way as an independent musician, artists have to understand this principle. music has the superpower to convey emotions more intensely than any other art form. combined with products like whatever, it's almost invincible. but what i also see is that what teams used to do stays with the artist alone
@Mxgtr15692 ай бұрын
From the musicians perspective, it’s all about the heart & soul of the music. The beauty of it, is taking something from deep inside you and manifesting into the real world. It’s personal and sharing it with others is very intimidating sometimes. On the flip…life lesson from KISS…sell your BRAND!
@jordangreenhalgh283819 күн бұрын
This is the kind of constructive criticism ive been needing!
@kickassets641421 күн бұрын
was not expecting this particular solution in a sea of marketing and sales vids online. I'm a digital visual artist but very valuable info.
@rockindavebyron39602 ай бұрын
You are so spot on my friend!!! We use to make money with music way back in '80s, sell merch Definitely, but way different today! Although I'm still doing club/restaurant gigs ( jazz/Rock fusion) we also do fine art work & funnel our music through that, & it works!!! Gotta re - think the wheel! Great video my friend, I just subbed to your channel and will support, Rock On & God Bless.
@9thmaggotАй бұрын
And here it's me buying all CDs i like while listening them in my car, lol
@timbranniganmusic34583 ай бұрын
Although the information isn’t new to me, your breakdown here is excellent. Great presentation. Thanks for the great work!
@MusiciansIgnite3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏🏻
@LogosRespeckter2 ай бұрын
I might want to make a video talking about this myself, but I just want to bounce some ideas around. I can understand music being the marketing in the same way video content is the marketing. While some young kids say they want to be “KZbinrs,” most people use video content as a funnel to their main product or service. Where I would make a distinction is that even though video equipment can be expensive, it’s usually a one and done, and it’s really a plug and play experience where you can hammer out videos and really master your craft. I don’t think the same can be said about the music. With video content you can work your way up to better video gear, and the audio equipment has never been more competitive when it comes to just spoken word. It doesn’t take much to get started, but with music, it’s just about the opposite. You have to do all the investment up front, your production value needs to be on point, you have to be sufficiently good enough with structure to immediately hook someone in within 5 seconds or you’re swiped away…but the absolute killer is doing this consistently. For video you can consistently bang out a video a week and build an audience. With music, you’re lucky to get a single quality song out a month, and this is assuming you had the patience to put in all the school learning (KZbin videos lol) up front with sufficient time and practice to know the ins and outs of the gear you need. The cost goes even further if you want the studio treatment with proper mixing and mastering. It just seems unfortunate that music is so front heavy and so saturated (mostly with not so great work), but also really doesn’t have the same kind of force multipliers that other, more traditional businesses have, of course the example being rock musicians being tee shirt slingers first and musicians last. It’s hard not to be demoralized into pivoting into something with more opportunities for expansion.
@kristofori7 күн бұрын
I agree 100% and I've been telling people this for over a decade. Good video.
@MusiciansIgnite7 күн бұрын
@@kristofori 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@jack-p8o2w2 ай бұрын
i get what you’re saying, and while it may be true at the moment, it doesn’t mean that things shouldn’t change for the right reason - for the music. the music industry, historically, has been structured in a wrong (corrupt) way. the restructuring (since napster and the advent of dsps) hasn’t completely shaken out, tho it may seem like it has. however long it may take, everything will right itself, eventually. it’s all come to light for this reason.
@autonicaadabsurdumАй бұрын
Coke was never the product, A Tesla, Rolex etc. have never been the product. People buy how they want to feel or whom they want to relate to. If everything sounds similar, the price counts or the status/image of the artist.
@durhamskywriterАй бұрын
Although I understand your point-and your point was made extraordinarily well -I don’t want merch from my favorite artists. I only want their music. I really miss buying records and CDs.
@MusiciansIgniteАй бұрын
I hear you, just remember you are not your customer.
@neurotransmi77ErАй бұрын
You had me check my sound system, this day and age.
@IvarConq2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this message. Im learning this lesson like everyone else and shifting my priorities back to just having fun without scheming on taking over the world. Enjoying my art is more important for my happiness and sanity. 🙏🏾
@eancurtis93332 ай бұрын
Most music now sucks plus now no one has patience you need to bring the hooks within the first 15 seconds or else you get skipped
@innavision1920Ай бұрын
Attention span of avg listener is shot. I’ve watched the avg song length go from around 4min to ballpark 2min give or take in the last 10yrs. People are so spoiled with music that if it doesn’t grab your attention quick they’re onto the next dopamine hit
@roboticvisions28 күн бұрын
A song should be satisfying from start to finish; it shouldn't just be the chorus that is good. The intro and verses should be good too. In a world where you have ten thousand more songs that could be better ahead of you, if you're listening to something that doesn't captivate you from its introduction, it's better not to waste your time.
@mu_on27 күн бұрын
@@roboticvisionsyes and at the same time some pieces of music do require putting time and somewhat of a listening effort to get into it and appreciate it. (unless you're really high) Let alone listening to an album from start to finish without doing anything else. Who else does that nowadays? Even I don't do it as often as I'd wish. True beauty often isn't that easy to truly embrace, where as fleeting and forgettable pleasure is. Sadly a lot of music seems to revolve around that nowadays in order to attract more listeners, rather than a quest for beauty. Anyway
@hector-rosaАй бұрын
Crazy value here! Thank you sir!
@StadsjaapАй бұрын
Market the things your audience is going to buy anyway... that hits hard. Thanks for this eye-opening video 😮
@FXWLL23 күн бұрын
This is such a refreshimg take and love seeing a musician tell the hard truth but honest truth. On a side note, Id say one other space that music may be the product, is in Sync. But there is a huge caveat, it's largely a behind the scenes game and you are required to work to tight deadlines. But even as I think about it as a sync producer, my real product is my knowledge and skillset, not the results of my skillset (each track).
@jmkennedy2 ай бұрын
This resonates with me completely.Av been a top celebrated pop artiste in my region for 20years and I was always broke.Untill last year when I shifted my perspective and started using my music as marketing for my March brand. AV made more money in six months than in the last three yeas🎉.. You r practically right bro.However,I would add that,Your music needs to be great(attention grabbing) Thanks for the clarity on this.Av subscribed ❤
@ClearTheRubble717 күн бұрын
i'm hearing this as a long-time musician-turned-game-developer, and it hits just right with me, even in regard to game dev. There are "trillions' of game developers out there, most of them with free games easily available. Those games, by themselves, bring in 0 pennies! But it potentially brings in hundreds to thousands to millions of gamers! So there has to be a storefront of some kind, directly or indirectly related to the games. When you mentioned "brand," I translated that to "brand-and-artist," referring to the musical artist, the visual artist, the game developer themselves. Because in a sense you're selling yourself as well. (Here I'm thinking of the rapper/musician/producer Ren from the UK, an independent artist whose latest album charted in the US and went to #1 in the UK and a few other countries. He's not only an artist, but a master of promoting himself and his story--and connecting with his fans.)
@LosDangaleros22 күн бұрын
Dude speaks truth! I am a retired screenprinter, ad specialty, logo centric graphic designer/ illustrator/ artist … also .. a surfer cowboy, Horse ‘n dog trainer … now I’m a dangalero Fine painter … who used to do this for my clients, now, I do it for myself. And this hombre is right on the bullseye 🎯 you must funnel yourself down to laser focus on who your fan demographic is? And become OP, Hurley, FUBU, Nike, etc. but, for YOUR crew, cult, clique, basically the peeps who you see as your tribe. -Rance
@TapioSusiАй бұрын
Keep real music underground
@TheWorldsNo1Superstar2 ай бұрын
You speak the truth. This is NOT only with music, it's the entire Entertainment industry. Thank you for the wisdom. Sending Blessings. 😊
@TheAlam02 ай бұрын
This a smart way to look at it, and also note that the intentions should always be about the music for the love and passion of creating and connecting with people...but at the same time it also has to be your marketing to unfortunately in this day in age but don't let that make you forget the first part.
@synqelectric6163Ай бұрын
This is the way I have always envisioned myself in music. Use my music to sell my products. Thanks for reminding me that am on the right path.😊
@vektacular2 ай бұрын
You are 100% correct…this is part of the reason why we do need to change how we consume music again.You’re very correct man….over saturated. I love your message here
@etiennedelaunois1737Ай бұрын
This my friend, is the most useful video of the year!
@brexistentialism76282 ай бұрын
Correct. If you make $1,000 a month from music sales or streams alone you're really successful!
@LionsLambanoАй бұрын
Great advice man, Thanks👍
@eduserra2 ай бұрын
My music are the jingles I use to sell merch with my brand... such a real PITA.
@phladjki2 ай бұрын
I don’t know if the stigma around selling is because of indoctrination. It’s because we cringe when we see falseness. It’s gross. Often people who are selling are trying to look like they’re doing something else - like being your friend, or being an artist, or caring about something. We actually like the music, the art, and cringe at the salesman mentality and persona because it’s aesthetically repulsive.
@prodCarab2 ай бұрын
That point of view is life changing, I was thinking and still in 2011 physical albums still worked, 3 years later everybody was using Spotify the change was so fast!
@bulbiemusicАй бұрын
Man... this video is gold! Thank you!❤
@skippyzk2 ай бұрын
Up until somewhere in the 2000s, music was people's identity. You were selling them their identity. Today, everyone's identity is their Facebook page. Now, what musicians are selling is an enjoyable experience, like back in the classical days. You would wear a suit and take a horse-drawn carriage to the theater to see an orchestra.
@leo.nordmannАй бұрын
People still use Facebook? 😅
@jimmyc549826 күн бұрын
Great message
@exediumАй бұрын
Man I stumble across you and is the best thing I did today
@RocRocket-cl3vc19 күн бұрын
Thank you for this interesting take
@QuincyKane2 ай бұрын
Great info; I'll definitely be thinking on this and working out how to implement it 👍
@victoriadoutonАй бұрын
I’m a great artist and a terrible seller. This is game changing on my view of how things work. As a third world person living in the US for 6 years now, is time for me to change my plan. I need better money !! Thanks for the video. You put things very clear to me 👍🏾. We just need to accept how it works now if we want it to make it work for us.
@KickSilverOMG2 ай бұрын
man that thing of being uncomfortable to sell something is so true, that used to be me until i understood the real meaning behind money.
@naveoriginal27 күн бұрын
Fantastic video thank you so much for this
@Witherfall2 ай бұрын
Your supply and demand argument is not correct. You are treating music like commodity. The supply of Led Zeppelin songs is not infinite. I would also argue that music it’s not generally discovered on Spotify. It’s discovered on social media platforms and then Spotify ask as a cheap way to access that artist without committing to buying physical product.
@teem59452 ай бұрын
Bro, the best music business I've ever listened to.
@PROD_BAUERАй бұрын
Easily one of the best videos about this theme, its like i've been looking for it cuz the rest of the content about sells is fundamentally wrong
@MusiciansIgniteАй бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@SongwriterThea2 ай бұрын
I LOVE this. Literally finishing my Masters in music and I think this video has just changed my approach to my final project. Thank you, Thank you , Thank you!
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
Glad it was valuable! Good luck, you’ve got this! 🔥🤘🏻
@LibertyMediaArts2 ай бұрын
I respect your opinion but in my opinion, my product is resonating with you the customer. Either you like and want to hear my music or you don't. It doesn't matter what what extra stuff I have on the market. If you don't like me or my music, you will never look past that. My objective is to make you happy. To make you feel not alone. That someone out there understands you. The beautiful part of it is though. If you can relate to my music. Then I do relate to you, we do have something in common, and I know exactly how you feel because I've been there myself. It's a connection that goes beyond a brand. That's why when I get even 1 sub to my channel I'm happy.
@MusiciansIgnite2 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying. I’m not saying music isn’t important, I’m saying it’s not the core product. It is the only reason people would buy from you in the first place. I think we’re on the same page 😁
@roboticvisions28 күн бұрын
@@MusiciansIgnite Music is the reason people would be interested in buying something afterward, so IT IS THE CORE PRODUCT in terms of what has value to the audience. It may be that your biggest source of income comes from ancillary sales, but music will still be the item of greatest value to the public.
@megaguidou1Ай бұрын
Great stuff.!!! Thanks for walking me up
@TommyXLourdes24 күн бұрын
again, we find that the perfect example of commercial success, indeed the blueprint is now and has always been KISS. I'm a casual fan, and I'm not making an my statement as to their artistry or even integrity, but for this conversation, KISS. Everything about that band and it's success has been broadcasting this message for decades.
@Video_ScriptwriterАй бұрын
I wish i could give a million likes. This is mind blowing. I'm not a musician, but the idea is really sound. ❤
@eyvindjr17 күн бұрын
Live performance is music too, and that is how a lot of musicians make their money. There is money in recording music too, but for TV, film, video games and commercials rather than record sales.
@markdeffebach81122 ай бұрын
My product is a service. The service is either a live performance or a lesson. Recordings are free to everyone except those producing them. Recordings are advertising for your service. Also, regarding selling content. most content is garbage. The quality of content started dropping as the cost of creating and distributing it went down. Today anyone can create content without even learning to play an instrument.
@dsmogorАй бұрын
Tomorrow you won't even need human beings to proliferate it.
@Roadsideunion2 ай бұрын
This is great affirmation. We've been getting all of our ducks in a row to launch a strategy like this for a while and I'm happy to say that September 20th we're going to get to see it come to fruition.
@deeomayallАй бұрын
Factually, this is not wrong - but: - A brand is incalculably more expensive to create and keep than music. Especially when your skill is making music, not a brand. As a consequence... - There are better people than musicians to play this game, and there are better marketing tactics than music that succeed in online branding. Basically, a musician *WILL* fail at this game unless they're young, attractive and very business-orientated, and if they are those things they're much more likely to find success as a model or a mainstream influencer.
@MusiciansIgniteАй бұрын
I appreciate your perspective. I disagree the assumption musicians will fail unless they’re given a perfect situation. There have been many artists who aren’t young or attractive who have made it. I will admit that if you’re not business-oriented at all you’re not gonna do very well, but if we are trying to be professional musicians embracing business is mandatory. Marketing has always existed, we either take advantage of what we have or shake our fists at the sky and point fingers.
@djfingersflores2 ай бұрын
well said my brother.. I agree 100% . Keep rockin' steady.
@nikkidoria96252 ай бұрын
This is so interesting because whenever I am posting on social media; I’m avoiding posting about anything not music related….gots to work on my brand!!!
@officialstylechild2 ай бұрын
Consumers are fully consumed by corporations. Nothing left for them to buy with and no time to do it
@InterMagneticband2 ай бұрын
I like what you had to say the Taylor Swift part no, Taylor Swift was born into the industry. She is a transplant. She is a child star that is completely different from a band that doesn’t have any kind of connections and does stuff on their own. I am one of those, marketing is a huge part of being a band having a manager and ramping up your social media presence now in this day and age but also yes, your music has to say something and be good, catchy or marketable to the genre, you are marketing towards. Dont give up learn what you can fail and fail again till you get it right.
@Kidd.Nostalgia14 күн бұрын
Great video thanks!!!
@MusiciansIgnite14 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@3211SD2 ай бұрын
This video is why 360 deals started up about 15 years ago . Streaming is on demand radio it's not replacement for a record store . When you have a new album out dont put it all up on streaming , put single out on streaming as promotion to promote albums. They you will also sell the CD at the concert. When the album era is over then put the entire album on streaming as a vault for your songs
@speedyslug23 күн бұрын
But i have no fans they need to hear all my material
@El_GabeАй бұрын
This ma has the mouth full of reason!!! Thanks for opening my mind ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@collinbergkamp7077Ай бұрын
RIght on. Thank you!
@perpettersen1353Ай бұрын
This video was very helpful. Thanks for sharing, mate 👍
@rupertpupkin249321 күн бұрын
Music streaming services will cease to exist if artists refuse to give them their music and rather sell their music on their own websites and get paid for their music. Problem solved 😎
@djtrakakadrunkpoet85982 ай бұрын
Just do what you feel , that’s all
@ryanbrutus13 ай бұрын
This was the most valuable video i’ve watched in the last month. I’m binging you
@MusiciansIgnite3 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I’m glad it was helpful! 🙏🏻🔥
@joshuadelacruz6617Ай бұрын
Dude. Thank you. I've been thinking about how to market so much lately. This really helps. Thanks dude. Gonna binge watch your stuff. Hopefully.