Why Naruto's Timeskip Was Worthless...

In this video I go over why I think the Naruto timeskip is virtually worthless and could just be better overall I give a few different methods and it's a great video.
Intro: 0:00
Team 7: 2:53
Konoha 11: 7:46
Gaara: 8:43
Side Cast didn't develop: 9:51
Naruto's "Lackluster" Power Up: 10:48
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Genjutsu is USELESS now...: • Why Genjutsu is USELES...

[@sixfromtokyo]

Thank you for watching:)

[@catdogfishdogcats]

Eyo its Six!

[@gameuniverse5973]

So six when is you vs five hundred pigeons on who would each other faster

[@icecrown7324]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoWaeaduiKtpr9U dude this whole time I was thinking it was six here but it was someone else 🪵

[@Nievesggness]

:D

[@darkman452]

Time for a part 2 of this video I want your thoughts on the plot holes form kisame vs itachi to the end of series

[@frescobar1839]

A big reason why it took 2 and a half years is because of Orochimaru. He switched to a new body at the end of Part 1, so we needed an almost 3-year skip because we needed to keep the threat of Orochimaru stealing Sasuke's body alive.

[@garrettsofia]

I was coming to the comment section to mention this. It seems the most obvious reason and I’m surprised Six never mentioned it…

[@enkiimuto1041]

Well, kish could have picked any time for orochimaru to regain a body, but even with that it is even disappointing on that since we didn't get to see orochimaru using abilities he got from this new body.

[@CloudyDaze]

@@enkiimuto1041 Backing up this line of reasoning because I was just about to reply the same thing. The time is entirely arbitrary and Kishi could have said anything from 3 years to 3 days for the amount of difference it made. But to be honest I can't really fault him either. Kishi didn't have Hindsight when making the series. It's obvious now but not when it's actually going.

[@mysteryman9488]

I mean Kishi specifically wrote it that way for the timeskip to happen if he wanted he could have just not had Orochimaru switch bodies and continued with Part 1 xD

[@andrepayne4349]

True

[@midknightgraze]

I remember being so curious about what he leaned after the timeskip only to be dissapointed after all he learned from the timeskip was a bigger rasengan.

[@playathesaints9599]

A rasengan that Minato used casually against obito

[@invincible203]

@@playathesaints9599 To be fair, adult Naruto wipes his old man... so you can't argue Naruto is bad when he's probably stronger than his Dad at all ages...

[@playathesaints9599]

@@invincible203 huh all ages?? He only beats Minato with KCM1 onwards

[@invincible203]

@@playathesaints9599 He is fucking 16 lmao. Let him get to Minato's age and he shits on him regularly without Kyubi.

[@playathesaints9599]

@@invincible203 Minato died in his early 20s, so you're right but he needed help from practically ninja Jesus to do it without kurama

[@spaghettiking7312]

The timeskip was incredibly important for allowing Sasuke to become strong enough to take on the Akatsuki and Itachi, but Naruto gained almost nothing from it. Other characters like Sakura also gained a lot from the timeskip, but they ended up irrelevant, so it didn't matter.

[@zonnodon163]

That's how bad the writing was

[@drparadox7833]

Jiraya is just a pathetic teacher

[@nicholasaugello2534]

I mean Naruto did get better, he got to the level he was when he had the 1 tale version of himself in base

[@nicholasaugello2534]

I think in retrospect that some of Naruto's training involving the 9 tales wasted alot of time and if it were like the time skip from one piece Naruto would've had sage mode out the gate 🤣 which wouldn't make for a good story cuz for real Sasuke would've got pummeled by Naruto if that happened 🤣

[@anthonybrito2610]

@@nicholasaugello2534 another thing like u mentioned, naruto didn’t rlly have a problem using kurama’s chakra til Yamato told him he hurt Sakura

[@jcg7609]

I know why it wasn't done, but in universe, it makes no sense that Jiraiya didn't teach Naruto sage mode during the 2 years' timeskip

[@gameuniverse5973]

Jiraiya don't want the only thing that made him special to no longer be special

[@marzman4]

Well jirayas was imperfect. That’s kinda the only reason he lost to pain aside from not knowing his abilities.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@marzman4 he would have still lost the toads were carrying his b u m a s s

[@nathanthebe6497]

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[@saiyaninstinct4795]

@@gameuniverse5973nah jiraiya did well in that fight

[@LuckOfTheDrawReborn]

The perfect power up for Naruto here would've been an array of basic, but useful wind release techniques, which could've also been used to foreshadow the Rasenshuriken.

[@quentinjones6877]

Right

[@az639]

This is what I have been saying for years. Yes Jiraiya made Naruto stronger by having him fully master the basics but that was probably done in a year so for the next 1,5 years Jiraiya could have tested him to see which chakra nature he has and taught him like 10-15 new basic wind release jutsus that would have came in handy a lot of times.

[@quentinjones6877]

@@az639 yeah he could've also learned to infuse weapons with wind

[@jamairwilliams8669]

​@@quentinjones6877or he could've developed a wind Chakra cloak similar to the Raikage

[@quentinjones6877]

@@jamairwilliams8669 that too but he probably would've eventually got KCM

[@gameuniverse5973]

The fact with Kakashi Naruto figure out the shadow clone trick and rasenshuriken in like a week make Jiraiya and Naruto look incompetent that they didn't figure the shadow clone trick for a entire three years I would argue Sakura was stronger than Naruto without the Kyuubi cloak tails at the beginning of Shippuden

[@jamaaldagreatest2748]

Battle wise I would disagree, chakra control mastery-wise you're absolutely right and although she was already adept at controlling chakra (like climbing to the tree first/being a "genjutsu specialist" it really does make Jiraiya and Naruto look even more inept considering that was the entire focus of their time together.... I'd love to hear your reasoning for why you think she might be stronger than Naruto though, it's all friendly discussion no hate. I just think she still wouldn't stand a chance in a one on one fight.

[@Enja___]

Sakura was definitely stronger than Naruto beginning of Shippuden

[@husnainchoudhary2779]

Plll

[@emilerobinson4363]

An argument could be made that naruto could have made the least Improvements over the time skip than another character

[@TheMinecraftReloaded]

@Enja Maybe physical strength, I disagree in most fights.

[@nurolkel3750]

I’ve always had issues with Naruto’s timeskip. He could of learned more jutsus, mastered the rasengan with one hand and tried to use Kurama’s chakra a bit more.

[@redninja3056]

Not really he needed to learn the basics more than anything and because of kurama had more trouble controlling his chakra more than anyone which he learned he learned to control his chakra better which is super important in the Naruto universe

[@zelz3011]

I don't like 1 Handed Rasengan super early.

[@michaeleanthonyjr]

@@redninja3056 If Kishimoto wanted to write him to master the Rasengan with one hand at that point in the story, he could have done it. He came up with the idea of Naruto mastering the Rasenshuriken in under a week with a shadow clone exploit, he could come up with any number of reasons that Naruto was able to master chakra control over the course of 2-3 years.

[@redninja3056]

@@michaeleanthonyjr well considering Naruto already knows two of the most powerful jutstus In the anime both are forbidden the best thing to do is train Naruto to perfect both those jutstus, and I see why Naruto couldn't learn rasangun perfectly is because of karuma which makes Naruto's chakra go out of control so instead he learned different ways to use it

[@michaeleanthonyjr]

@@redninja3056 His different ways of using those jutsu only amounted to more shadow clones and bigger rasengan for the majority of the story. Fights with Naruto's existing kit are largely uninteresting to watch when compared to his peers and that could be remedied either with more creativity within the limits of his kit or more versatility within his kit such as more utilization of ninja tools or more jutsu to help set up for bigger attacks like Sasuke has. But a 1 handed rasengan wouldn't be a deal breaker in either category, and Kishimoto clearly didn't do either. And again, he mastered the Rasenshuriken and Sage mode while still having trouble controlling his chakra, and Kishimoto could have written someone like Yamato to appear earlier within the story to help suppress the nine tails in the mean time if he wanted to. You gotta think about this story as a story, and not as a series of actual real events that have occurred which could only go a limited amount of ways.

[@rjai5003]

Sasuke: Got a bunch of new techniques and mastered the curse-mark Sakura: Got superstrength and became a medical ninja Naruto: Rasengan…but bigger

[@jackgonahieu4999]

Not even that, rasengan but slightly bigger lol

[@MadRaptorGaming]

"Also increased his physical abilities and abilities to the point that Kakashi NEEDED the Sharingan in order to fight him, so putting Naruto in his base at Jonin level without Kyuubi chakra." Sharingan Kakashi is damn near Kage level, and Naruto could push him far enough to NEED the Sharingan in a fight against him, that should say something. Naruto is typically only shown fighting people stronger than him at the moment, which makes him look less impressive by comparison.

[@TheShakeship]

@@MadRaptorGaming It was mostly because Naruto didn't really end up doing much for the starting few arcs. As far as I remember the first time he did something was during the Guren Gozu filler arc(top 3 shippuden arcs tbh). That being said other characters didn't do anything for the entirety of the show lol.

[@1346528000]

@@MadRaptorGaming That's not true, Kakashi simply said that he would take them serious. We don't know if he actually needed. So much that Naruto admitted that they (him and Sakura together) couldn't win against Kakashi and they needed the fake spoiler to take the bells. They didn't even have to beat Kakashi just take his bells, and they couldn't do it, without the book spoiler. He's not on Kakashi's level. And even this power boost was minimal compared to the boost he got in between the beginning of part 1 and the end of part 1.

[@kelton8852]

@@MadRaptorGaming that's because in the bell test Kakashi spends way more time on defense lol. It's not like it was an actual fight.

[@lightingdragon4143]

Bare minimum he should have been able to do a Rasengan with one hand, had perfect control of at least one tail or two tails, and perfected his Summoning Technique so that he could summon not only gamabunta on command but other toads as well to do combo attacks with.

[@projekttaku1]

legit, if sasuke could master the curse mark, why couldn't naruto master a V1 1 tailed form?

[@Deity_devil]

@@projekttaku1 exactly this is why I hate shippuden

[@projekttaku1]

@@Deity_devil yeah, personally I think naruto's kurama control progression was rushed, basically used as a deux ex machina whenever it was needed and then suddenly after training with B has perfect control. I think it would've been more interesting if we saw a more linear progression, starting shippuden out with control over 1 tail, then moving onto 2, 3 and 4 but loosing complete control at 5. Against pain he has better control over 5 and even some influence at 6, but looses complete control at 7, coming to a head at 8. With B he learns to completely master all the way up to 7 and can use 8 with control but also the risk of losing control to kurama, and then finally once he learns kurama's name he gains KCM.

[@Deity_devil]

@@projekttaku1 yeah that sounds good I would also add some wind style jutsu to his moveset and incomplete sage mode like Jirayas

[@projekttaku1]

@@Deity_devil yeah, him knowing atleast a little bit about senjutsu is must since otherwise what's the purpose of him being jiraya's student?

[@roxtechs]

So basically Naruto was on vacation, Sasuke was training, and Sakura was falling at therapy.

[@fijiwill2237]

Bro learned rasenshuriken and sage mode in less time than the time skip lasted 💀

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

Deku from My Hero Academia and Boruto from the Naruto verse at least try to make the main characters versatile ,but people hate it when that happens for example Deku's quirks and Boruto's "Lighting style thunder triplet" and Wind style Gale palm he learned from Mitsuki in the mist village arc when he asked Mitsuki to teach Boruto those skills before fighting that fish shark Samurai guy can not remember his name ,but Boruto said after his fight he asks Mitsuki to show him better control of those 2 Jutsu he learned from Mitsuki. During the leaf village Remembrance episode to pay respects to the dead shinobi of the past this mini arc happened he said he learned water style from Ao off screen before Boruto's sparing match against Naruto. Dragon Ball Z has characters learning techniques off screen I remember Goku learning Kai-ken and the sprit bomb off screen to face Vegita in the sayjin Arc also Trunks and Vegita learned ascended super Sayjin which is more powerful but way slower super sayjin they learned off-screen from the time chamber training . it does not matter when a character learns a new technique off screen when there are going to be more powerful enemies in the future. I do not mind when characters learn skills and Techniques off screen some Shonen manga still does this it only becomes an issue if a character learns a Hax broken skill off screen that allows the character to one-shot anyone. manga's like Boruto ,Dragon ball Z and Dragon Ball Super, and Yu-Yu-Hakusho have some characters learn skills and Techniques Off Screen ,but they were never immersion breaking Broken skills and Technique kits which still kept things in Balance.

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

@@yagami817 Deku from My Hero Academia and Boruto from the Naruto verse at least try to make the main characters versatile ,but people hate it when that happens for example Deku's quirks and Boruto's "Lighting style thunder triplet" and Wind style Gale palm he learned from Mitsuki in the mist village arc when he asked Mitsuki to teach Boruto those skills before fighting that fish shark Samurai guy can not remember his name ,but Boruto said after his fight he asks Mitsuki to show him better control of those 2 Jutsu he learned from Mitsuki. During the leaf village Remembrance episode to pay respects to the dead shinobi of the past this mini arc happened he said he learned water style from Ao off screen before Boruto's sparing match against Naruto. Dragon Ball Z has characters learning techniques off screen I remember Goku learning Kai-ken and the sprit bomb off screen to face Vegita in the sayjin Arc also Trunks and Vegita learned ascended super Sayjin which is more powerful but way slower super sayjin they learned off-screen from the time chamber training . it does not matter when a character learns a new technique off screen when there are going to be more powerful enemies in the future. I do not mind when characters learn skills and Techniques off screen some Shonen manga still does this it only becomes an issue if a character learns a Hax broken skill off screen that allows the character to one-shot anyone. manga's like Boruto ,Dragon ball Z and Dragon Ball Super, and Yu-Yu-Hakusho have some characters learn skills and Techniques Off Screen ,but they were never immersion breaking Broken skills and Technique kits which still kept things in Balance.

[@zilldraws]

six is spitting, my man came back making no extra clones, no sage mode, no further mastery of Kyuubi in fact less mentally stable than before training and only made a slightly bigger rasengan STILL with clones, worthless ass timeskip for him in terms of training and growth hell Sakura got a bigger power increase than him

[@shathaan1763]

Yeah, not even doing rasengan unassisted

[@r.a.panimefan2109]

The issue is he didn't have anything knew. Everyone had new tactics moves. Naruto just more and bigger. But wat jiyraya mainly did was brush on his basics Narutos biggest weakness in part 1 was basic knowledge due to teacher neglect at academy. He had no taijutsu style. His jutsu timing? Well was nothing but spaming. Clones go down then more Rasengan was poorly timed. When he came back it's clear and apparent that his timing is far better. Closer to chunin Did he learn a bunch of new stuff no. But he learned how to properly use his skills. Tho some things he should have had. Not needing to use clones for rasengan. More use of toads and summons related. I could have seen some of jiyraya teaching some of his other things. He should have at least known his element. With some weak nature change. He should have at least known wat sage was

[@SuperPianogirl123]

Someone said that Sakura was a better personification of the “failure that built themselves up into being highly respected” trope that they wanted for Naruto better than Naruto himself.

[@r.a.panimefan2109]

@SuperPianogirl123 it is somewhat true. Afterall. Naruto is the reincarnation of the son of the God of the series. Is from 1 of the strongest clans. Son of the 4th. Has the best trainers. The strongest tailed beast. Utterly insane Chakra. The biggest reason he was a failure. He had no parent figure. He had no proper teachers. No one to guide. Him People make fun of him He was not a failure He was a genius that was not helped to come to his potential. Had he had jiyraiya in village. Had hiruzen adopted him. He would have been o.p. quite early. Naruto is more reflective of a kid with bright potential thrown to the harsh world and not being aloud to get to have wat he could have

[@Binks129]

He didn’t need to learn to make more clones lol he can make ass much as he wants. What he needs is to be more practical with them. Making 1000 clones is useless if it gets blasted with fireball and then boom less chakra.

[@cloudyven39]

One of the best changes after the timeskip would be a general improvement in Naruto's chakra control by showing that he can now form a One-handed Rasengan.

[@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346]

Nope he didn’t at the start of shippuden

[@cloudyven39]

@@bayasgalantsogtgerel3346 exactly, he could've shown more progress

[@dariusrhodes778]

​@@cloudyven39naruto character theme is hard work u expect him to be such a top tier ninja in only 3 years with such versatility the point is that sasuke was naturally more skilled as a ninja and naruto still needed sum work if he truly wanted to bring sasuke back to the village and become hokage yall literally think please think

[@kawaki4441]

​@@dariusrhodes778What series did you watch? During part 1 Naruto went from dead last to arguably strongest of his generation. 3 years would be more than enough to at least be kage level.

[@synysterpain]

I always thought it was so we didn't have 12 year olds beating akatsuki members and other ninja lol

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

It absolutely was. It would've been silly to have kid naruto fightning madara. So the timeskip was not worthless.

[@vegetasbiggestopp659]

They should of just copied hxh for the 100th time and gave Naruto an adult form lol

[@Nunya_Argo79]

I said this before, but it really was a mistake to start the series at 12 years old. Should've started at 15 and worked their way up. HunterxHunter sort of pulls it off, but I didn't really enjoy it in Naruto.

[@zandershadowbane]

@@Nunya_Argo79 I would argue the series of Naruto is about growing up, so starting out as a young kid with ideals and then thrust into the adult world is a decision I can understand, even if it does have it's flaws.

[@lovelypanda8676]

I believe the reason we needed the timeskip was why a lot of other shounens need a timeskip. Because the target audience is young boys at the end of the day, and as they are growing and maturing, the characters need to grow and mature as well so they can relate. It's the same reason HP books got longer and darker as the story went on.

[@randomahnameisthename3147]

While that is a reason ultimately it feels hollow. Look at a time jump like One Piece where it shows the phenomenal growth of the strawhats and how much stronger and ready they are for the new world. With naruto the main character has made the least amount of change and seems like he just sat on his ass the entire time. Him being weaker than sasuke isn’t an issue but he literally displayed almost 0 growth and barley matured in that time.

[@roberth2833]

What does HP stand for in this context

[@nileslivingston8132]

@@roberth2833 Harry Potter

[@egusisoup1826]

Completely disagree. Timeskips are just fun to watch. Young kids growing isn't a valid reason as there are always both new and old fans, especially when it comes to manga. Timeskips are shown because people love timeskips. If the main character is young and it's a long running series, people will want to see how the characters grow. It's also why people love seeing epilogues after a story is finished.

[@granddefectus4602]

Sasuke could solo Team 7 after his timeskip. Sasuke was going to eradicate them if it weren't for Orochimaru.

[@shathaan1763]

He was ready to kirin their asses

[@kingrippzard2027]

I swear the difference between Naruto and Sasuke post skip is honestly hilarious the more I think about it.

[@Joaquin-xq5wo]

@@kingrippzard2027 naruto only actually catched up to/surpassed sasuke when he got sage mode, something he learned for like what, a month or two at most?

[@kingrippzard2027]

@@Joaquin-xq5wo shonen power progression go brrrrrrrr.

[@Human_01]

............................. "Evil" is the antithesis to the virtue: 'humanity'. Humanity is the characteristic that defines the human spirit. Humanity is symbiosis across humans and society. 'Humanity' exceeds 'social-darwinism'. ............................. NEURO-PERSONALITY ............................. "SENSORY-FEELERS" ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION AND HATE TOWARDS ENTJ/INTJ (AGAINST "THINKERS" IN GENERAL)-BOTH IRL AND ON THE INTERNET; DESPITE THOSE NEURO-PERSONALITY TYPES BEING A BLESSING TO SOCIETY AND ALL OF MANKIND! THEY DESERVE BETTER! 😤 'ESFJ', 'ESFP', ISFP and 'ISFJ' are a pathogen to humanity, and 'then' Cluster-B (depending on their neuro-personality). THEIR "FEELINGS 'IS' THEIR REALITY", THEY ALSO HAVE A MALICIOUS-MIND BY DEFAULT (low 'mirror-neurons' results in "SOCIOPATHIC-FEELER"; full of pathological hate, and highly chaotic). WHAT'S MORE, DESPITE HAVING MALICIOUS INTENT THEY ARE ALL EMOTIONALLY-WEAK AND PRONE TO COVERT/VULNERABLE-NARCISSISM (ISFJ especially; they impersonate and spread hate towards genuine INFJs). ............................... Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality'). I recommend researching 'narcissistic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissist'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!! They are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-r@pe, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim/damsel in distress, creating "flying-monkeys", and 'bribing' others (with money or BJ) to attack, or at times, kill someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Emmett Till. xSFP and ISFJ (2W1) are the most complicit, narcissistic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependents' (look up the definition). Like ESFJ, XSFP's "feelings 'is' their reality." Most are covert/vulnerable-narcissists. ISFJ often perceive things only on the surface level (even by sensor standards), are suckers for a “pretty face", and their neuro-psychology makes them the ideal narcissitic-codependent and pawn to the ESFJ (blind-loyalty, surface level perception, susceptibility to covert-narcissism). Lastly, ISFJ are notorious for impersonating other people's identities IRL and on the internet; while ESFJ-9W1 superficially appears like an ENFJ, they have different 'neurology' and psychology. Both XSFJ are superficial by nature and perceive reality at face-value/surface level. SUMMARY Evil personality: 'ESFJ' (ALL), ESTJ (Cluster-b), ISFJ-2W1 (covert-narc/enabler). ESFJ-9W1 superficially resembles ENFJ; different 'neurology' and psychology. [Secretly] Evil and narcissist-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL), and ISFJ (2W1 enable ESFJ). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict as a distraction (at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ Research ref: Raudha Athif, Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Karen, ESFJ-narcissists, ESFJ-neurology, Gaslighting, Amber Heard, Fake feminism, Rising of a shield hero (Malty-'ESFJ'; XSFX spread disinformation online. ISFJ is the main culprit, i.e. ISFJ largely perceive things on the surface level, and with malicious intent ISFJ impersonate others). Please research 'Brood-parasitism’- XSFJ natural psychology.

[@langadube9611]

If I'm being honest, I wish Naruto was more like Goku when it comes to developing skills. Every arc Goku brought something new to the table. Saiyan Saga: Kaioken Freeza Saga: Mastered Kaioken and Super Saiyan Android Saga: Instant Transmission. Buu Saga: Fusion Technique and Super Saiyan 2 and 3. It shows even if we didn't see it Goku is always learning something new. In contrast Naruto barely learns anything new.

[@Human_01]

............................. "Evil" is the antithesis to the virtue: 'humanity'. Humanity is the characteristic that defines the human spirit. Humanity is symbiosis across humans and society. 'Humanity' exceeds 'social-darwinism'. ............................. NEURO-PERSONALITY ............................. "SENSORY-FEELERS" ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION AND HATE TOWARDS ENTJ/INTJ (AGAINST "THINKERS" IN GENERAL)-BOTH IRL AND ON THE INTERNET; DESPITE THOSE NEURO-PERSONALITY TYPES BEING A BLESSING TO SOCIETY AND ALL OF MANKIND! THEY DESERVE BETTER! 😤 'ESFJ', 'ESFP', ISFP and 'ISFJ' are a pathogen to humanity, and 'then' Cluster-B (depending on their neuro-personality). THEIR "FEELINGS 'IS' THEIR REALITY", THEY ALSO HAVE A MALICIOUS-MIND BY DEFAULT (low 'mirror-neurons' results in "SOCIOPATHIC-FEELER"; full of pathological hate, and highly chaotic). WHAT'S MORE, DESPITE HAVING MALICIOUS INTENT THEY ARE ALL EMOTIONALLY-WEAK AND PRONE TO COVERT/VULNERABLE-NARCISSISM (ISFJ especially; they impersonate and spread hate towards genuine INFJs). ............................... Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality'). I recommend researching 'narcissistic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissist'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!! They are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-r@pe, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim/damsel in distress, creating "flying-monkeys", and 'bribing' others (with money or BJ) to attack, or at times, kill someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Emmett Till. xSFP and ISFJ (2W1) are the most complicit, narcissistic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependents' (look up the definition). Like ESFJ, XSFP's "feelings 'is' their reality." Most are covert/vulnerable-narcissists. ISFJ often perceive things only on the surface level (even by sensor standards), are suckers for a “pretty face", and their neuro-psychology makes them the ideal narcissitic-codependent and pawn to the ESFJ (blind-loyalty, surface level perception, susceptibility to covert-narcissism). Lastly, ISFJ are notorious for impersonating other people's identities IRL and on the internet; while ESFJ-9W1 superficially appears like an ENFJ, they have different 'neurology' and psychology. Both XSFJ are superficial by nature and perceive reality at face-value/surface level. SUMMARY Evil personality: 'ESFJ' (ALL), ESTJ (Cluster-b), ISFJ-2W1 (covert-narc/enabler). ESFJ-9W1 superficially resembles ENFJ; different 'neurology' and psychology. [Secretly] Evil and narcissist-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL), and ISFJ (2W1 enable ESFJ). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict as a distraction (at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ Research ref: Raudha Athif, Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Karen, ESFJ-narcissists, ESFJ-neurology, Gaslighting, Amber Heard, Fake feminism, Rising of a shield hero (Malty-'ESFJ'; XSFX spread disinformation online. ISFJ is the main culprit, i.e. ISFJ largely perceive things on the surface level, and with malicious intent ISFJ impersonate others). Please research 'Brood-parasitism’- XSFJ natural psychology.

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

Deku from My Hero Academia and Boruto from the Naruto verse at least try to make the main characters versatile ,but people hate it when that happens for example Deku's quirks and Boruto's "Lighting style thunder triplet" and Wind style Gale palm he learned from Mitsuki in the mist village arc when he asked Mitsuki to teach Boruto those skills before fighting that fish shark Samurai guy can not remember his name ,but Boruto said after his fight he asks Mitsuki to show him better control of those 2 Jutsu he learned from Mitsuki. During the leaf village Remembrance episode to pay respects to the dead shinobi of the past this mini arc happened he said he learned "Water Style "from Ao off screen before Boruto's sparing match against Naruto. Dragon Ball Z has characters learning techniques off screen I remember Goku learning Kai-ken and the sprit bomb off screen to face Vegita in the sayjin Arc also Trunks and Vegita learned ascended super Sayjin which is more powerful but way slower super sayjin they learned off-screen from the time chamber training . it does not matter when a character learns a new technique off screen when there are going to be more powerful enemies in the future to fight. I do not mind when characters learn skills and Techniques off screen some Shonen manga still does this it only becomes an issue if a character learns a Hax broken skill off screen that allows the character to one-shot anyone. manga's like Boruto ,Dragon ball Z and Dragon Ball Super, and Yu-Yu-Hakusho have some characters learn skills and Techniques Off Screen ,but they were never immersion breaking Broken skills and Technique kits which still kept things in Balance.

[@nategraham6946]

He did get better at the basics. Even Kakashi noted that his timing had improved with the shadow clone jutsu, even managing to get behind Kakashi. But in general I agree, he didn't really improve much to at all during the time skip.

[@Katokhann]

Agreed. While I can buy Naruto needing to put any advanced training on hold to polish up the basics, I don't buy him needing all 3 years to do so.

[@Sephy723]

I always find it a bit reaching how the most hyperactive kid in Konoha, aka the one guy who's always raring to go without much of a plan in the fight against Deidara, was able to master Sage Mode whose training requires complete & perfect stillness in such a short span of time. I would've found the development more believable if Naruto was able to learn an imperfect version of it during the timeskip & how he was making short bouts of progress ever since, finally mastering the technique / transformation by the time Pain attacks Konoha. It signifies that he has finally learned how to be calm & collected in the face of extreme danger, able to make rational decisions in the heat of the moment which is pretty much how a Hokage, the position that he's aspiring to be, should act. This journey of mastering Sage Mode could've gone hand-in-hand in his personal mission to learn & harness the Nine-Tails' chakra left to him by Jiraiya. The former would've been a good way to show how much he grew as a shinobi, while the latter would've shown how much he grew as a person. The logical end to this journey of maturation for Naruto would be him having what it takes to finally take on the mantle of the Hokage by the end of Shippuden, & not the joke of an inauguration that we got (seriously, did Jiraiya not teach him _ANYTHING_ during the timeskip? That Naruto had to basically go back to school after finally defeating Sasuke at the end of Shippuden reflects poorly on Jiraiya, in my opinion)

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

Not to mention Sage mode made literally zero difference in the fight against Pain and he basically lost anyways. It sounds like the plan was to have him fight with an imperfect sage mode but they made him master it because he's the protagonist.

[@Shark-hn4mv]

@@that_deadeyegamer7920, it made quite a lot of difference. Naruto couldn't solo the Pains on his own without Sage Mode.

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@that_deadeyegamer7920dude what are h talking about Without sage mode naruto would’ve gotten smacked around like a dog

[@travisbrown434]

Exactly what I’m saying. Someone said he would’ve stomped Sasuke if he had sage mode but that’s not the case. He could’ve had an imperfection sage mode lost to sa shake still and just mastered it for pain. Very simple

[@mgreysanders]

Six should make a follow up video of what naruto should've had within 3 years of training with Jiriya, instead of a few miniscule skills and a bigger rasengan. Toad summoning, basic air,water and/or earth training, maybe knowledge of sage mode, some of Jiriya's Toad jutsu like Toad oil and the needle jizo, some of Kakashi's own jutsu like the one where they burrow underground and put it in a fight. They'd all help him be more recourseful, show he picked up more from his teacher like the other members of his team and it would give his clones more strategy other than throw a hundred clones at your opponent, till they run out of Chakra to jump them or hit them with rasnegan. Show us his training mattered with a sanin more than the other konaha 12 except Sasuke and Sakura. They had legendary and feared teachers. The least he can get is more jutsu and tactician skills

[@biggiecheese7392]

he should be able to do resengan with one hand, know about all the elements and how they work, be able to use wind jutsu similar to Danzo, shadow shuriken jutsu,be able to summon different types of toads

[@Cloke100]

Sadly Sakura and oddly enough Tsunade are in the same boat ninjutsu wise, the both of them are capable of using other ninjutsus but wasn't written to do such. An example Kabuto's chakra blades, Tsunade, Shizune and Sakura can all use this but never do.

[@CasshernSinz1613]

​@@Cloke100 yeah all they do is punch and heal. Kishimoto never really seemed to know how to write intelligent characters.

[@jeambeam3173]

Naruto could use the burrowing technique since the Chunin exams

[@mgreysanders]

@@jeambeam3173 well that wasn't actually jutsu. Naruto just dug a hole and put a clone over it. The actual jutsu doesn't need all those steps

[@afrosworld1796]

i will always say there should of been a time skip between the pain fight and the war arc. it never made since to me that after nagato death the akatsuki still was able to move on with there plans as if nagato's death was a minnor inconveince it would of also help ease the power creep that happens after the pain fight also with him knowing the minito was his father he could of spent the time skip learning his moves and with the support of the village now the naruto we could of gotten with a time skip after the pain fight would of been soooo gooood.

[@fatboysergio737]

Wasn't there like a 4-6 month timeskip between those arcs?

[@UbermanPrime]

@@fatboysergio737 No? The Kage Summit comes right after the Pain arc when Tsunade is still out of commission, and that's where the war gets announced. Barely any time passes

[@fijiwill2237]

The whole point is that after pains death Obito begins his master plan, After Nagato used rinne-rebirth Obito sorta had no choice but to reveal himself to get the rinnegan.

[@afrosworld1796]

​@@fijiwill2237 are you thinking of kabuto cause obito master plan begin in the start of shipuden when they kidnap gara to steel his tailed beast. but what doesnt make since to me is the fact obito before the war arc claimed to had needed someone to revive madura with the rinnegans hence why nagato is so important to the plan since his chakra pool was so high as he was a uzamaki he able to use both rinnagan to revive madura. it should of took time to replace someone like that diffenitly when the uzamaki clan is near completly wiped out. him annouceing himself right after that fight made it feel like obito should of just killed nagito himself and captured the nine tails himself . what he would go on and pretty much do on his own.

[@fijiwill2237]

@@afrosworld1796 well if you remember Obito stated that rinne-rebirth was specifically to be used for himself meaning the revival of madara but nagato messed it all up after using the jutsu on for the leaf, on top of that they didn’t need to replace the rinnegan user with a uzamaki clan member cause Obito could’ve used to jutsu the entire time due to hashirama cells he just didn’t want to have to sacrifice himself in order to do so thats why he need nagato.

[@cgpxae2119]

He got taller, don’t forget that

[@cliff402ful]

When I think about perfect time skips I think of One Piece. The setup for it was absolutely perfect imo. Naruto’s felt too soon in a way.

[@Human_01]

............................. "Evil" is the antithesis to the virtue: 'humanity'. Humanity is the characteristic that defines the human spirit. Humanity is symbiosis across humans and society. 'Humanity' exceeds 'social-darwinism'. ............................. NEURO-PERSONALITY ............................. "SENSORY-FEELERS" ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION AND HATE TOWARDS ENTJ/INTJ (AGAINST "THINKERS" IN GENERAL)-BOTH IRL AND ON THE INTERNET; DESPITE THOSE NEURO-PERSONALITY TYPES BEING A BLESSING TO SOCIETY AND ALL OF MANKIND! THEY DESERVE BETTER! 😤 'ESFJ', 'ESFP', ISFP and 'ISFJ' are a pathogen to humanity, and 'then' Cluster-B (depending on their neuro-personality). THEIR "FEELINGS 'IS' THEIR REALITY", THEY ALSO HAVE A MALICIOUS-MIND BY DEFAULT (low 'mirror-neurons' results in "SOCIOPATHIC-FEELER"; full of pathological hate, and highly chaotic). WHAT'S MORE, DESPITE HAVING MALICIOUS INTENT THEY ARE ALL EMOTIONALLY-WEAK AND PRONE TO COVERT/VULNERABLE-NARCISSISM (ISFJ especially; they impersonate and spread hate towards genuine INFJs). ............................... Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality'). I recommend researching 'narcissistic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissist'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!! They are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-r@pe, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim/damsel in distress, creating "flying-monkeys", and 'bribing' others (with money or BJ) to attack, or at times, kill someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Emmett Till. xSFP and ISFJ (2W1) are the most complicit, narcissistic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependents' (look up the definition). Like ESFJ, XSFP's "feelings 'is' their reality." Most are covert/vulnerable-narcissists. ISFJ often perceive things only on the surface level (even by sensor standards), are suckers for a “pretty face", and their neuro-psychology makes them the ideal narcissitic-codependent and pawn to the ESFJ (blind-loyalty, surface level perception, susceptibility to covert-narcissism). Lastly, ISFJ are notorious for impersonating other people's identities IRL and on the internet; while ESFJ-9W1 superficially appears like an ENFJ, they have different 'neurology' and psychology. Both XSFJ are superficial by nature and perceive reality at face-value/surface level. SUMMARY Evil personality: 'ESFJ' (ALL), ESTJ (Cluster-b), ISFJ-2W1 (covert-narc/enabler). ESFJ-9W1 superficially resembles ENFJ; different 'neurology' and psychology. [Secretly] Evil and narcissist-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL), and ISFJ (2W1 enable ESFJ). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict as a distraction (at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ Research ref: Raudha Athif, Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Karen, ESFJ-narcissists, ESFJ-neurology, Gaslighting, Amber Heard, Fake feminism, Rising of a shield hero (Malty-'ESFJ'; XSFX spread disinformation online. ISFJ is the main culprit, i.e. ISFJ largely perceive things on the surface level, and with malicious intent ISFJ impersonate others). Please research 'Brood-parasitism’- XSFJ natural psychology.

[@untetheredcloud]

Naruto should’ve learned everything we saw in the time skip but not show it til the time calls and instead call back to the time he learned it. Similar to how One Piece handled it

[@joaotavares078]

Dbz did it better. Op time skip just made nami as robins tits grow... ussop the same, chopper worst, sanji with the same jokes... still better than naruto tho

[@bayekofsiwa5847]

​@@joaotavares078 OP Post Time skip: Luffy >doesn't take a lot of effort to go Gear 2 >No longer suffers side effect from Gear 3 >Now has considerable mastery of all 3 kinds of haki >Developed Gear 4 Zoro >Considerable mastery of 2 kinds of haki >Stronger upgrades on his signature moves >Can turn his swords into black blades Sanji >Considerable mastery of 2 kinds of haki >Stronger upgrades for his signature moves >Developed skywalk But sure let's just dubiously limit OP's time skip to Nami and Robin growing boobs to say "dBz hAs dOnE tImeSkiPzZxx beTteRrRR"

[@spriggy_6117]

@@joaotavares078true, the characters straight up have kids and grow as people in DBZ. I appreciate changes that aren't just limited to powerlevels.

[@langadube9611]

Here's what Naruto should have learned in the Timeskip. A water style jutsu to counter Sasuke's fire ball jutsu. Summoning Toads more regularly than he does and actually using them in fights. Not counting filler Naruto used toads twice in Shippuden. And maybe because lord knows it doesn't get enough use outside of the Uchia a sound based Genjutsu so Sasuke can't easily counter it. If Naruto had all that the time skip might have meant something.

[@falconeshield]

I remember kid me just gasping at Naruto needing clones to make a rasengan during the trial when he did that against Sasuke 2 years prior, in one tail Kyuubi mode.

[@Human_01]

............................. "Evil" is the antithesis to the virtue: 'humanity'. Humanity is the characteristic that defines the human spirit. Humanity is symbiosis across humans and society. 'Humanity' exceeds 'social-darwinism'. ............................. NEURO-PERSONALITY ............................. "SENSORY-FEELERS" ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SPREADING DISINFORMATION AND HATE TOWARDS ENTJ/INTJ (AGAINST "THINKERS" IN GENERAL)-BOTH IRL AND ON THE INTERNET; DESPITE THOSE NEURO-PERSONALITY TYPES BEING A BLESSING TO SOCIETY AND ALL OF MANKIND! THEY DESERVE BETTER! 😤 'ESFJ', 'ESFP', ISFP and 'ISFJ' are a pathogen to humanity, and 'then' Cluster-B (depending on their neuro-personality). THEIR "FEELINGS 'IS' THEIR REALITY", THEY ALSO HAVE A MALICIOUS-MIND BY DEFAULT (low 'mirror-neurons' results in "SOCIOPATHIC-FEELER"; full of pathological hate, and highly chaotic). WHAT'S MORE, DESPITE HAVING MALICIOUS INTENT THEY ARE ALL EMOTIONALLY-WEAK AND PRONE TO COVERT/VULNERABLE-NARCISSISM (ISFJ especially; they impersonate and spread hate towards genuine INFJs). ............................... Also... To intelligent readers (who do 'not’ have a ‘pathological disregard for rationality and reality'). I recommend researching 'narcissistic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissist'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!!! They are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-r@pe, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim/damsel in distress, creating "flying-monkeys", and 'bribing' others (with money or BJ) to attack, or at times, kill someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Emmett Till. xSFP and ISFJ (2W1) are the most complicit, narcissistic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependents' (look up the definition). Like ESFJ, XSFP's "feelings 'is' their reality." Most are covert/vulnerable-narcissists. ISFJ often perceive things only on the surface level (even by sensor standards), are suckers for a “pretty face", and their neuro-psychology makes them the ideal narcissitic-codependent and pawn to the ESFJ (blind-loyalty, surface level perception, susceptibility to covert-narcissism). Lastly, ISFJ are notorious for impersonating other people's identities IRL and on the internet; while ESFJ-9W1 superficially appears like an ENFJ, they have different 'neurology' and psychology. Both XSFJ are superficial by nature and perceive reality at face-value/surface level. SUMMARY Evil personality: 'ESFJ' (ALL), ESTJ (Cluster-b), ISFJ-2W1 (covert-narc/enabler). ESFJ-9W1 superficially resembles ENFJ; different 'neurology' and psychology. [Secretly] Evil and narcissist-friendly gunts/flying-monkey: ISFP (ALL), ESFP (ALL), and ISFJ (2W1 enable ESFJ). ☝️ALL of them are secretly emotionally-disturbed, hence their need to create conflict as a distraction (at other people's expense, truly evil). Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ Research ref: Raudha Athif, Ghislaine Maxwell, Marilyn Monroe, Karen, ESFJ-narcissists, ESFJ-neurology, Gaslighting, Amber Heard, Fake feminism, Rising of a shield hero (Malty-'ESFJ'; XSFX spread disinformation online. ISFJ is the main culprit, i.e. ISFJ largely perceive things on the surface level, and with malicious intent ISFJ impersonate others). Please research 'Brood-parasitism’- XSFJ natural psychology.

[@az639]

This is perfect if you just add basic level wind release jutsus to the mix. Yes Jiraiya made Naruto stronger by having him fully master the basics but that was probably done in a year so for the next 1,5 years Jiraiya could have tested him to see which chakra nature he has and taught him like 10-15 new basic wind release jutsus that would have came in handy a lot of times.

[@nikamoreillus661]

Doesn’t naruto have a wind affinity not a water one, plus Naruto’s wind affinity counters sasukes lightning jutsu, fireball jutsu has never landed a single hit within the ENTIRE series, like imma be honest, I don’t think naruto was worried about sasukes use of fire style just lightning style. Plus you have to remember naruto was going beserk when training to create the rasenshurken now that was in a week now imagine what would’ve happened if it was 2 years and jiraiya did say he almost died in their first encounter yeah you get my point naruto literally learned pretty much all he could learn at the time since kurama was hindering him THAT much.

[@playathesaints9599]

​@@nikamoreillus661 he was going berserk because he was trying to rush Rasenshuriken in only a week. If he took his time, he'd probably be collected

[@JayEm1325]

3:58 that Naruto look is FIRE AF

[@Outcastic]

just a one handed rasangan would have gone such a long way.

[@azureascendant994]

Naruto should've learnt at least an incomplete Sage mode after the three years and more types of wind jutsu besides rasengan. I'd imagine sage mode would take many years to master. At least 4-5 years depending on the character's skill, intelligence and the type of sage mode studied.

[@nikhilhembrom8952]

Nah wind release is more better sage mode is powerup that is better for last arcs it would have made story bit boring

[@nani4249]

Or have naruto unknowingly training in sage mode explaining how he learned it in such a short time m

[@maagic2031]

I think that Jiraiya bringing up the failed nine-tails training was to foreshadow a weakness that Naruto has for the first half of part 2. He gets manipulated by Kurama a LOT more here than he does in Part 1. He does it vs Deidara, he does it vs Orochimaru, he actively needs to be watched by Yamato while training or even basic frustration would cause Kurama to bubble over. All this culminates in him almost getting a full transformation vs Pain. I think while this paints Naruto's training with Jiraiya as pretty lackluster, it serves purpose in the story. It establishes that the weakening seal on Kurama is an issue and that allows Naruto to meet Minato, learn about Tobi and eventually start training with B. On the topic of Naruto's overall strength, I do thing Kishimoto sort of overshot the gap between him and Sasuke. The point is supposed to be that Naruto looks like a Chunin while Sasuke looks like someone who could 1v1 an akatsuki member and live to tell the story, but the biggest problem with this is that Naruto was already a Chunin level fighter by the end of part 1. Sure, he barely bullshitted past his exam fight vs Neji and didn't promote because of that but the version of Naruto who fights Sasuke at the valley of the end would have turned Neji into a pile of dust. Part 2 Naruto does look a bit sharper, with Kishimoto showing him doing some stuff with clones that he didn't really have the speed or intelligence to do back in Part 1 (My favorite example being how fast he was able to pop out a clone to defend Kakashi from Chiyo, an arguably Kage-level fighter). It would have been nice to see Naruto packing some more techniques beyond shadow clones and rasengan, but sadly that just isn't how Kishimoto usually writes thing. Every character has a core set of 2-3 tools and it just depends on how they use them. When Naruto does eventually come up with his new technique, it's just a variation on the Rasengan. Sasuke's new array of tools in Part 2 are mostly variations on the Chidori and the curse seal. When he gets the mangekyo, thing's really don't change that much. Amaterasu replaces his Fire Release, Kagatsuchi replace his Chidori techniques and Susano'o replaces the curse seal. That's just Kishimoto's style. Also, very off-topic but this is why I sorta don't get why people talk about fights and narrative in shounen as if they're separate things because this is an area in Naruto where Kishimoto's quirks as a fight writer led to issues he has a plot writer. They're tangled up in this genre and trying to separate them leads to headaches.

[@-UnknownHero]

When I read comments like that, I think it is time for a 'save comment' function on KZbin

[@Copyninja007.]

Nah its just bad writing.

[@wem_iii]

I think that if Naruto learned more of Jiraiya's techniques it would have been great. Using his hair as a weapon and the toad stomach summon... Hell even that frog that Jiraiya uses to hide would have been awesome for Naruto

[@wander7812]

I never could wrap my head around the timeskip was just 2 years the first time I saw it. I thought it was 4-5 years just because of how damn grown they all look.

[@KaiKrimson56]

Reminds of me when I saw how different Sora, Riku, and Kairi looked in Kingdom Hearts 2 compared to 1. In 1, they all looked 10 and look 5-6 years older in 2, but apparently, they were 14 and only a year had passed between the events of KH1 and KH2.

[@twill4084]

It’s crazy to know Naruto isn’t your favorite anime to talk about, your videos are insanely descriptive & accurate

[@IN-tm8mw]

Two things i noted the time skip for from Naruto's perspective: 1) Better Chakra control. 2) Learning detailed information about Jiraiya's life and Work on the Book, the most important plot device needed to advance the story in key moments with Pain and most likely the reason talk no jutsu actually worked.

[@strawhatchoji2535]

Oh nah ur right bro was mastering tall no jutsu in the timeskip 😂😂

[@-UnknownHero]

That is a very good point!

[@theazureknight9399]

Kishimoto said on one of those addresses he makes in between chapters of the tankbom manga that the reason for the timeskip was so he could justify some characters having a simplified design so that he wouldn't spend as much time drawing them. Its like the thing with Super Saiyan only existing because Toriyama didn't like to ink black hair. Naruto is the prime example of this. His shippuden jumpsuit is considerably simpler than its part 1 counterpart.

[@thomaswilson8080]

I would be fine if naruto started sage mode in the time skip then have him finished it off latter on when jiraiya died to make it more sense that he finished it in just a week and all kishimoto had to do was show that naruto new who Fukasaku was and say he didn’t tell the other about sage mode was because of the chance that the akatsuki or orochimaru could of found out that he was training to master it another thing that he definitely needed was a one hand rasengan it would make me feel like he had more growth over the time skip

[@gameuniverse5973]

Which would make no sense Naruto could have trained in the toad place which the Akatsuki don't know about

[@daymianhogue1634]

It's extra extra stupid when you realize Naruto learned Rasengan, Rasenshuriken, Sage Mode, and KCM... in about 8-10 months total... He learned Rasengan in 1 month. He learned Rasenshuriken in 1 week. He learned sagemode in 1 month. He learned KCM in less than 10 months. (The war arc is ~10 months after pain arc, the 5 kage summit is only a few days or a couple weeks after pain arc... but we don't know how long the travel to turtle Island was)

[@unreal4good367]

If it took Naruto that little time to learn all that then Jiraiya has failed as a teacher, nagato, yahiko and konan were leagues ahead after being trained by Jiraiya compared to Naruto.

[@daymianhogue1634]

@@unreal4good367 yeah it did. It's funny cause I even high balled them all. Rasengan was about a month. But Rasenshuriken he learned between during the Kakuzu/Hidan arc which people argue whether it was like 3/4 days or like 7-10 days. And I just went with a week. Sage Mode? Similar story. People debate if it was 1-2 weeks or like a month. Kcm we know some concrete dates of the Pain arc due to it being the end of data book 3, and it had Gai being a year older and his birthday is like new years... and we know the war is in October cause of Narutos birthday. So about 10 months. But you can argue how long til the kage summit whether it was days or a couple weeks after pain... and you can argue how long it was til Naruto started his kcm training on turtle Island. On the high ball all this adds up to about a year... on the low ball? You could easily argue all of it was in 4-6months. With the fairest being like 8-10. Jiraiya was a terrible teacher. Honestly one of the worst Naruto had... he was a bit of a father figure but almost entirely in hindsight or filler. Filler added some fatherly moments but in the manga? Most of his fatherly moments were in flash backs after he died.

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

That's all fine and good but it doesn't make the timeskip worthless. It just means naruto himself didn't gain any cool powers. But the timeskip does way more than that.

[@daymianhogue1634]

@@GoldenMechaTiger not really except for Sakura most characters didn't change that much besides visually... maybe you could argue maturity...? But that easily could have just been written to be a result of the Sasuke retrieval arcs events. Near death experiences of yourself and closest friends will jump start maturity in many cases.

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

@@daymianhogue1634 Visually is important too. So they don't look like little kids fighting elite adults.

[@SeatedOfficer]

I believe the most disappointing was not showing much growth in Naruto’s strength specially after the feats he completed in part 1

[@RubyAPBT]

It is important. Naruto basics were beyond trash, his only grace was having a lot of chakra because he learned almost nothing in academy. Just because he knew 2 good strong jutsu(Rasengan, taijuu kage bunshin) does not mean he was really good. With Jiraiya he got good in all basic skills he never properly learned, like Sasuke did in part one. Sasuke got stronger with orochimaru because he already hade a solid base so he could learn new things unlike Naruto. We see how much stronger Naruto got with just a solid base, then AFTER his arrival he can learn things better because now he have a better chakra control, that's why he was able to Rasenshuriken, it was not only because of Kagebunshin, because no matter the amount of it he had in part one with his bad skills he would never be able to develop it in a few weeks. After getting even better with chakra control in the process of making rasenshuriken he could take the step to master sage mode. It requires perfect chakra control to learn, beside a huge amount of chakra. He could also learn frog kata because he got better at taijutsu. Just by polishing his basics in those 3 years, in the 2years we saw him developing new skills in shippuden he suprassed Sasuke by alot. Lets be real, if Hagoromo never appeared and gave Sasuke new power, he would never be able to even beat sage mode Naruto, much less Naruto kcm+sage mode. Sasuke just got a chakra boost out of his ass because Kishimoto wanted to finish the manga with a Naruto vs Sasuke fight, because Sasuke had very little chakra compared to EVEN kid Naruto without using kurama chakra. With the amount of chakra he had, he should never have been ablt to use Susano for a long time, he just had a little bit more than Kakashi in term of chakra pool. For Sakura this time skipp was also good, because while she was school smart she was really useless as a ninja, she could barely fight. What is the good of having amazing chakra control if she could not make a jutsu or do some taijutsu? The time skip was also for Naruto not be so useless against akatsuki, and Konoha have got stabilized after orochimaru attack. I guess the only real bad thing is the other gening were forgoten so we barely see them. Shippuden focused too much on Naruto and sasuke instead of making other characters shine too. Like in pain battle, other people there should have been more useful, especialy Sakura and hinata team even if pain would win in the end, at least to show how stronger they got, this way on 4th war these character could have became stronger there and have some real role instead of being useless.

[@clickmaster3692]

Six, have you thought about a video on what you would want from Boruto's upcoming timeskip? This is Kishimoto's second chance at writing a timeskip that isn't ass and actually develops it main character. From the looks of it, Boruto will easily surpass his father in terms of how impactful the timeskip will be towards his growth as a character and a shinobi. After the timeskip comes, maybe a video comparing the timeskips would be a cool idea.

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

Timeskips aren't supposed to develop character. You need to actually show that to the reader for it to be satisfying

[@clickmaster3692]

@GoldenMechaTiger "Timeskips aren't supposed to develop character". Wdym? Time is moving, so the characters HAVE to develop or show some sort of growth. "You need to actually show that to the reader for it to be satisfying". So you're saying you weren't satisfied when you saw Naruto as a hokage for the first time in the Boruto movie because we didn't see him go through the actual process of becoming hokage?

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

@@clickmaster3692 Yes sure they can grow but the purpose of a timeskip doesn't have to be character development. That is better done on screen when you can show what is making the character change and develop. That's how the best character development is done. You don't just do a timeskip and say look the character is different now. The real purpose of a timeskip is to progress the world in a way that you can save time and not have to waste a bunch of time showing things that wouldn't make for very good story and to save time. You don't do timeskips just for powerups.

[@clickmaster3692]

@GoldenMechaTiger I'm talking about a timeskip in the context of how it was set up in Naruto. Sasuke, Sakura, and Naruto each had gone one to find LEGENDARY mentors, and the timeskip was set up to look like they all would receive some major training and growth as characters. However, only Sasuke got a major power-up and in addition grew in character towards his goal of killing Itachi.

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

@@clickmaster3692 They all got quite a bit more powerful. As they clearly show early on in their test against kakashi. But still powerups is not the only point of a timeskip. It's also to progress the world around the main characters to the next point when exciting stuff will start happening again. So again, clearly this timeskip was not worthless.

[@taa347]

I enjoy your content and the way you look at the series/events/characters and their motivations a lot.

[@YaBoiSmurf]

W Video! I still wish they put more into people like lee, tenten, choji etc. Wouldve been nice to see them be a little more relevant or achieve newer techniques they couldve developed further going into boruto.

[@realdiversity2976]

To be fair in the original script guys like choji and Lee were supposed to be killed off. Which is why kishimoto never gave them more screen time later

[@michaeleanthonyjr]

@@realdiversity2976 But the reality is that he didn't kill them off and their characters end up suffering as a result. Honestly this is why I think shonen needs to be more willing to kill their characters if the alternative is a character being rendered irrelevant later in the story.

[@Deity_devil]

Especially tenten

[@MrUniq]

I always assumed Naruto picked up his true Shinobi skills and chakra control during the timeskip. He kinda got by on raw skill pre timeskip.

[@anthonybrito2610]

Another thing is Jiraiya’s training was also mental too. He passed on his morals, ideals and knowledge to naruto & spent quality time w naruto who needed it

[@supercasualgamer513]

Agreed. It was arbitrary, since they did nothing with it. It could've been meaningful or just taken out. We got neither 😂 We got the most pointless time skip in anime

[@yullu65]

I think a contributing reason for the timeskip in Naruto is the same as the timeskip in Dragon Ball: the characters have grown and their longer limbs makes for better looking fight scenes

[@Raffalius]

Naruto spending two and a half year only learning how to use his shadow clones better and a giant rasengan. Proceeds in shippuden to not knowing the shadow clone brings back information it received when it pops and for the clones to still be useless until the last arc 😂 Using his clones to get himself out of the way and turning the shadow clones into weapons lasted the few episodes in the beginning, where they were fighting Kakashi to check their progress.

[@matthewroberts198]

The biggest I feel is the Rasengan with one hand. but because he can't control it yet with one hand, it takes random shapes each time with one of them being a smaller version of the Rasenshuriken as a prelude to the move later on. I would have been happy if he just learned a couple of wind jutsus through nature chakra training and the shadow clone trick. As someone else said also using toads in battle more often (maybe even making clones who use toads as well).

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

Naruto and sasuke having a deeper connection than their wives will always be a little wild to me

[@juancruz7627]

To be fair naruto grew a lot during his main series. Allowing the other characters to shine and on top of that give Naruto a wake up call about being left behind in terms of strength is major. Shortly after those two years he was smart enough to use clones in all of his training to shorten his progress by years. 2 years makes an incredible difference in my opinion. If it was just a few months I don’t believe naruto would have gained nearly as much. Not only that it would have stifled the growth of all the other characters hindering Naruto’s further progress later in the story.

[@Seatek_Ark]

Sasuke and orochimaru time requirements and Gaara's progression feels way better over a 2-3 year timeskip. Actually having the konoha 11 hit chuunin and even jonin over 2-3 years makes a lot of sense. The problem with the time skip is Naruto barely showcased his improvements. I think showing that he had an insanely difficult time controlling his chakra with Kurama's influence and having that be the focus of his improvements was and should have been the point. In Og Naruto, he's a terrible ninja that gets by having a huge pool of chakra. In the timeskip, Jaraiya fixes the seal that Orochimaru messed with, then spent two years on turning him into a high-quality ninja that ALSO has a giant pool of chakra. This would culminate in breaking genjutsu from Itachi and doing a 1-handed Rasengen. But they don't show that... he still has poor chakra control, can't break genjutsu, and still needs clones for rasengen. This looks even worse when Kakashi introduces the clone learning tech, but they could have said "Jaraiya told me you guys worked on your chakra control and we think this clone tech is something you can take advantage of now that you're progressing." But no, Jaraiya looks incompetent, and the time skip didn't do anything for Naruto.

[@Nunya_Argo79]

Jiraiya fixed the seal way before the timeskip. He fixed it during Naruto's training before the chuinin exams.

[@Seatek_Ark]

@Nunya_Argo79 reading my comment again, it isn't clear that I'm talking about a hypothetical where Jiraiya tunes his seal more and trains him. I was trying to illustrate that they did nothing during the time skip, and i world have had him use the time skip better.

[@ren_aoki34152]

The only major problem I had with the Timeskip is Naruto's progress. Maybe they could've given him a little more jutsu, maybe from Jiraiya's skill set. I mean he did more growing in the whole Shippuden than the Timeskip itself so the training was not the effective I guess? One of the only thing good that I think came out of it is the increased and strengthened bond between Naruto and Jiraiya.

[@ImRichieYT]

Thanks for the vid Six

[@webslinger4733]

I wish Naruto started Part 2 with at least either Jiraiya’s imperfect Sage Mode, or the Wind Style Rasengan. That way he could still develop either technique into Perfect Sage mode for Pain arc or the Rasenshuriken for Kakuzu, but still feel like he’s progressed after a timeskip

[@rosurobosu8546]

how dare you call it worthless, Naruto learned how to move himself in mid-air using clones! oh wait, he did that already vs Gaara in the chunin exams well, he learned how to break genjutsu! oh wait, he didn't break a single one ever well, day 1 jiraiya told him there are many ways to improve the rasengan and he should start by adding chakra! oh wait, after 3 years it's all he ever did

[@TheSodaShop]

Definitely one of the worse uses of a timeskip in any show tbh

[@AlwaysLoaded]

Six I love all your videos you remind me of swag every time I watch them 💯❤️💪

[@dkirby9052]

I like Jiraiya, but as a teacher for Naruto he was a failure. The fact is, he was never interested in training Naruto to do anything other than use the nine tails. He taught Naruto just enough jutsu to get by but he main focus was on controlling the nine tails. When he wasn't doing that he was more interested in his books or spying on women. He never dedicated any real effort into improving Naruto's natural abilities. It took Kakashi to teach Naruto about chakra natures after the time skip. Kishimoto might not have come up with Sage Mode until after the time skip but that raises questions of why the hell was Naruto not taught that during his time with Jiraiya. Both Kakashi and Jiraiya failed Naruto as teachers.

[@christopher8295]

No matter what u say, jiraya not teaching naruto his elemental affinity during the timeskip is a massive joke and doesn't play in jiraya's favor as naruto's teacher...... Didn't jiraya's training during the timeskip was pretty much about naruto mastering all the basics and making him an all rounder better shinobi ? Isn't your elemental affinity one of the basics every shinobi should know ? U'd think that's one of the stuff naruto would had work on the most but no, jiraya didn't even atleast talk to him abt it.😅

[@terencebarnes7393]

Seem like he just focused on controlling 9 tails and taijutsu. Seemed like they learned with Naruto, because Boruto has dramatically improved and mainly worked to get stronger without Karma. So far kenjutsu ,a new Rasingan ,flying thunder god ,and probably more we haven’t seen. That’s how you use a time skip.

[@muriok2474]

At the very least jiraya could have set naruto on the path to learning Sage mode, so when the pain arc happened naruto could have half the training for it down

[@TheCEOofTheMoment]

W mans, This was something that needed to be adressed for a long time now. I hope you can go over more topics like this in the future. Like why Naruto was so loyal to a place that hated him, or why Naruto never left.

[@-mugen-]

Video is the epitome of overthinking and reaching for answers lol but shit was fire and the descriptions of the different scenarios were on point bruh

[@fortello7219]

I never thought about it but; Since Kakashi's story is the prequel, if you wrote out Kaguya and the reincarnation stuff, then Kakashi could literally be the protagonist. He is there for basically every important beat.

[@noonenobody9616]

Yeah the time-skip was sort of worthless. It would have been interesting to see a shorter time-skip.

[@redninja3056]

It really wasn't Naruto needed to learn chakra control more than anything which is harder for him then most people and just by doing that made him stronger than most people

[@noonenobody9616]

@@redninja3056 What? I didn't mention anything related to strength... However now that I think about it I do wanna say something about it.

[@George-jc3mt]

@@noonenobody9616 i mean sasuke going toe to toe with a deidara as a 14 yr old would have been funny as hell and embarsssing

[@bluhmer1990]

The fact that Naruto made the Rasenshuriken means he could have been a wind elemental master. Probably could have learned water release too which would have prepared him to use Six paths versions of those techniques instead of just infusing rasengans with the tailed beast elements. It would have made the fights even more dynamic.

[@realdiversity2976]

Agreed maybe introducing sage mode training and even a partial sage transformation. Also at minimum I think he should have learned more wind release which is essentially what sasuke did was learn more lightning releases. I also see a few comments and a one handed resengan I agree too

[@ahmadkaien]

Naruto and Ichigo are one of the few shounen protagonists that don't have any other real moves besides their first real ones Even the different Rasengan variants only come near the tail end of the series and tbh it's boring

[@ricardokojin7]

Right? I think they wanted to make it a "trademark" thing...like "let's make it all rasengan so the kids like it"..... which could work well if rasengan was just the finisher move be he had other cool set up moves before using it..... but no... the battle start with rasengan and ends with rasengan.

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

@@ricardokojin7 Deku from My Hero Academia and Boruto from the Naruto verse at least try to make the main characters versatile ,but people hate it when that happens for example Deku's quirks and Boruto's "Lighting style thunder triplet" and Wind style Gale palm he learned from Mitsuki in the mist village arc when he asked Mitsuki to teach Boruto those skills before fighting that fish shark Samurai guy can not remember his name ,but Boruto said after his fight he asks Mitsuki to show him better control of those 2 Jutsu he learned from Mitsuki. During the leaf village Remembrance episode to pay respects to the dead shinobi of the past this mini arc happened he said he learned water style from Ao off screen before Boruto's sparing match against Naruto. Dragon Ball Z has characters learning techniques off screen I remember Goku learning Kai-ken and the sprit bomb off screen to face Vegita in the sayjin Arc also Trunks and Vegita learned ascended super Sayjin which is more powerful but way slower super sayjin they learned off-screen from the time chamber training . it does not matter when a character learns a new technique off screen when there are going to be more powerful enemies in the future. I do not mind when characters learn skills and Techniques off screen some Shonen manga still does this it only becomes an issue if a character learns a Hax broken skill off screen that allows the character to one-shot anyone. manga's like Boruto ,Dragon ball Z and Dragon Ball Super, and Yu-Yu-Hakusho have some characters learn skills and Techniques Off Screen ,but they were never immersion breaking Broken skills and Technique kits which still kept things in Balance.

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

Deku from My Hero Academia and Boruto from the Naruto verse at least try to make the main characters versatile ,but people hate it when that happens for example Deku's quirks and Boruto's "Lighting style thunder triplet" and Wind style Gale palm he learned from Mitsuki in the mist village arc when he asked Mitsuki to teach Boruto those skills before fighting that fish shark Samurai guy can not remember his name ,but Boruto said after his fight he asks Mitsuki to show him better control of those 2 Jutsu he learned from Mitsuki. During the leaf village Remembrance episode to pay respects to the dead shinobi of the past this mini arc happened he said he learned water style from Ao off screen before Boruto's sparing match against Naruto. Dragon Ball Z has characters learning techniques off screen I remember Goku learning Kai-ken and the sprit bomb off screen to face Vegita in the sayjin Arc also Trunks and Vegita learned ascended super Sayjin which is more powerful but way slower super sayjin they learned off-screen from the time chamber training . it does not matter when a character learns a new technique off screen when there are going to be more powerful enemies in the future. I do not mind when characters learn skills and Techniques off screen some Shonen manga still does this it only becomes an issue if a character learns a Hax broken skill off screen that allows the character to one-shot anyone. manga's like Boruto ,Dragon ball Z and Dragon Ball Super, and Yu-Yu-Hakusho have some characters learn skills and Techniques Off Screen ,but they were never immersion breaking Broken skills and Technique kits which still kept things in Balance.

[@ricardokojin7]

@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 I don't think people hate Boruto because he is versatile... they hate the show as a whole because it is a slap in the face of Naruto.

[@1BadAssArchAngelvs14]

@@ricardokojin7 its weird to expect a sequel to follow the exact same story prince able as the "original" when sequels in general never do that just compare Toy story 1 and Toy story 2 and Toy story 3 theme's being different from one another. sequels are going to expand on things and events that are usually never explained in the previous series like the Otsuki clan Boruto is doing just that. the main problem with Boruto getting that hate started with Anime fillers taking years to finish until Boruto episode 50 of the Boruto Chunin Exams.the Boruto manga is selling very well but people who speak english do not even check the Boruto digital manga sales. fun fact every one from Japan, all of Asia and Brazil and India and Africa have been making Boruto videos but not the english fans pretty much have seen plenty of Non-english videos talking about Boruto.do not believe the secondary Naruto English fandom about Boruto when you see people gate keep content you are being 100% fed lies about it when you see a hyperbole fanbase its always gate keep but believe the second hand medium. Boruto chapter 78 Digital manga has sold more than One Piece online when it launched so people do not even check both sales of Digital individual release Manga's online.

[@MultiDiceman]

The time skip was useless or Naruto vs the time skip from the end of the series to "The Last: Naruto movie" which his growth and maturity damn near tripled. The mastery he had over his techniques, his chakra and even his taijutsu was massive

[@kalroy1230]

When I reread naruto I always have to just tell myself they sparred and went of jiraiyas missions together and chock it up to him just being a super near sighted sensei

[@kitkat6959]

It does seem weird that Naruto doesn't get much better especially compared to Sasuke and Sakura who both get extreme buffs

[@SuperPianogirl123]

I think Kishimoto really wanted to go with that underdog theme for Naruto for a long time, but having him actually get stronger later in the series just makes his time with Jiraiya look bad.

[@charlest7962]

It's the level of focus. Naruto is add and focused on the final goal instead of the steps to reach it. Sakura hated being so useless and wanted to be of help. Saskue hated he almost lost to Naruto and had been falling behind the dunce of the class after being the #1. He realized how much more he had to train if he was going to take out itachi

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

I never really had a problem with how little Naruto developed through the timeskip but I did find it weird

[@charlest7962]

He's an idiot. He has good instincts. But he's a knuckle head with add. He needed to mature and gain focus

[@George-jc3mt]

tbh i loved how kishi wrote his timeskip

[@peternguyen2908]

The time skip was essential because Kishimoto needed to build up a backlog of manga issues as the anime was catching up so rapidly with its source material. To allow him to do this, the anime needed to put out almost 80 filler episodes to give Kishi the time he needed. When the anime was finally ready to relaunch, they changed the appearance of every character to let the audience know that Naruto was back with a more mature storyline.

[@KnuttyEntertainment]

Naruto mastered upto three tails. It’s just after the four tails incident and the seal’s degradation that Jiraiya bans its use. So now Naruto has to proactively suppress the nine tails when it was automatic before, and he doesn’t even get to benefit from most of his training. We never see him use kyuubi chakra without him raging first and then it progressed to getting out of hand, whereas in part one he had full control over releasing red chakra. All that was needed was one fight where Naruto comments how difficult it is to keep the nine tails under wraps when he uses a lot of chakra at once, even when he’s completely calm because of how loose the seal is. And then once he’s out of chakra, show him choose to relax his grip a little and resort to kyuubi chakra to stay in the fight. He goes from one tail to two to three, all the while remaining calm and showing the full fruits of his training, but still commenting on how he has to keep a tight leash and not let it slip any further than this. And then when he’s about to win, have him be suddenly struck with a surge of corrupted chakra. He’s able to force it back down but having to close down his 3 tail cloak leaves him without any chakra, and suppressing the seal leaves him too distracted to finish the fight. So he decides winning the fight is more important and let’s the 4th tail rampage. But nope, the story doesn’t think to build up the 4 tails and show how the nine tails cheats Naruto out of his training and full power, and instead it just shows Naruto be constantly short tempered and get provoked into immediately entering 4 tails without Naruto doing anything about it, and forcing someone else to come suppress him.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I would've been fine if Boruto didn't get an adaptation.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Hey I like the jigen and isshiki fights animated

[@bawab1322]

Who mentioned Boruto bruh obsessed 💀

[@josephrogers3666]

The canon bits are cool but it’s like 5% nowadays

[@raijin7793]

Literally no one asked about Boruto 😭💀

[@BitchChill]

Naruto fans trying not mention Boruto when someone points out a flaw with Naruto impossible challenge

[@therealone935]

Damn so sasuke is juice to the gills and isn't natty? :(

[@hisroyalbonkess]

I haven't started the video yet. I just wanna say thank you.

[@gadman85]

His lack growth during the 2.5 year time skip was a sizable reason why I wasn't as into Shippuden compared to Naruto. It always felt like one of the big points in the show was how much Naruto thrived and grew with just the slightest bit of positive, or at least not negative, attention. Yet he spends two and a half years alone with Jiraiya and all he has to show for it was a slightly bigger Rasengan, and being only a little less of an idiot. I know they were supposedly on the run from Akatsuki the whole time, since they now knew Naruto was the Nine tails Jinchuriki, but that should have greatly sped up his training. Instead, it felt like everyone else grew immensely while Naruto mostly stood still. He wasn't just left behind because everyone else got promoted. I sometimes wondered if Naruto would have grown more spending that time alone with Iruka. I won't even get started on Sasuke. There's plenty of reason everyone talked about him being Kishimoto's favorite. It wasn't just because Kishimoto said he really liked drawing Sasuke. I joked with people about Sasuke being the character Kishimoto wanted to create, but he had to use Naruto as an excuse to make Sasuke. The anime itself even joked about how Sasuke was much more of main character in the series than Naruto a couple of times.

[@ellie7252]

it's pretty wack honestly. the only people who gained from the timeskip in the first arc of shippuden outside of cool new character designs are Sakura and Gaara. Sakura is now like, the most badass character, and Gaara is the new Kazekage. but like.. then Sakura gets character regressed to be useless again until the war arc, 'hooray' (sarcasm). also, it really annoyed me that only the kids got new designs. not a single adult like, changed clothes? grew their hair out? maybe try a new way of wearing the same outfit? idk i'd just like ANYTHING for the adults to change through the timeskip.

[@killmydread]

I think it would’ve been cool for Naruto to be able to use the vermilion rasengan to show that he’s starting to win kuruma over instead of just Kuruma randomly starting to help Naruto during the Pain arc and it would make sense considering Naruto’s main thing is Rasengan, also why didn’t Jiraiya teach Naruto a ranged jutsu I’m sure he could’ve found out about Naruto’s chakra nature or guessed it would be like his Dads since he taught him after all.

[@xscythe67]

I thought the 2-3 year thing was because of the anime catching up and they needed some breathing room to make a bunch of chapters so they made 2-3 years worth of filler.

[@clintongillespie4811]

That time when he said that he cared for her it was either genuine or just a shadow rap or maybe to catch her off guard so we could do the chopped or neck

[@Onepieceistheworstfuckinganime]

So this guy trained for 3 years and what did he achieved? Sasuke shitted on naruto so hard at the orochimaru hideout.

[@zandershadowbane]

I feel like that was intentional. Naruto lost his way after losing to Sasuke in the Valley of the End, tried to become stronger at any cost, and wasn't able to achieve anything for the first part of Shipuden. It wasn't until he found his way at the beginning of the Pain Arc that he was able to become stronger.

[@Copyninja007.]

​@@zandershadowbanenah what did he do in the 3 years is supposed to be a prodigy he learned rasengan in 1 month, rasenshurinken in a week, sage mode in a month, that jiraiya couldn't do in his lifetime, what did he even do in 3 years.

[@zandershadowbane]

@@Copyninja007. He got stronger at Taijutsu and general combat, as seen when he redid the Bell Test. It is inaccurate to say he didn't get stronger, but it's also inaccurate to say he got materially stronger, and I think that was intentional. Beyond that he also learned Jiraiya's philosophy.

[@Copyninja007.]

@@zandershadowbane it's still underwhelming, compared to what sasuke accomplished, and he himself in weeks.

[@zandershadowbane]

@@Copyninja007. Exactly. The fact that the gap between Naruto and Sasuke which was so close at the Valley of the End grew so much is exactly the point.

[@lordkronos5470]

I think he just focused on basics. Naruto struggles with basics since academy days. Basics like shuriken jutsu, chakra control, and taijutsu battle experience against jiraiyA. I really think Jiraiya really neglected Naruto’s training most of the time, similar to the way he trained him with Rasengan. I’ll introduce something to you but you have to figure it out approach. Also I think juraría also spend a lot of time with Naruto playing with the seal. Even after the terrible incident I’m sure jiraiya was probably bed ridden for a last 6 months. One year since he’s elderly. Jiraiya just probably just spend time with Naruto as a care taker more than a teacher at that point.

[@fireman6986]

But we still see none of that. Naruto literally spammed clones and rasenshuriken vs kakazu and for some reason every other shinobi takes back seat while it’s repeatedly statement Teamwork is necessary by kakashi

[@Nunya_Argo79]

Another person talking about spending 2-3 years on basics, that is nonsense. His basics weren't event that bad, plus with shadow clones would speed it up.

[@nathanielduggan1684]

What makes this video so nice is I literally forgot all these post-training feats from Naruto. Better nine tails controls, bigger rasemgan -- I can't remember any of these moments. Why? Because Kishimoto didn't make a big deal out of them! I'm sure someone could make an argument for how strong post TS Naruto is, but the problem is, Kishi doesn't depict him this way. Lorewise I'm sure he's cool, all I remember is Sakura got a better Akatsuki fight and then he immediately lost to Sasuke. That's all I remember about post TS Naruto before giant rasengan

[@AbandonEverythingJumpShip]

Bro, why am I suddenly getting recommended Naruto videos, on subjects I watched a decade earlier, only now they're in better quality?

[@clintongillespie4811]

It appals me that sarutobi could not see his friends Madness that you let him go on for so long that he truly believed everything he did was for the good of the village

[@shathaan1763]

He learned big rasengan lol, Jiraiya didn't even taught him chakra nature or a jutsu, nothing.

[@charlest7962]

How hard was it for him to learn to do any basic justsu. He lacks focus. It takess the death of Asuma for Naruto to start do focus and make the wind rasengan, and then develop the rasenshuriken. It took kakashis pep talk to focus him. Even kakashi admires jirayas patience with Naruto

[@langadube9611]

​@@charlest7962He learned the Rasengan one of the most advanced shape manipulation jutsu in a month when he was 12-13. You're telling me nature manipulation is that much harder.

[@charlest7962]

@@langadube9611 yes. It's why jiraya taught him that and summoning. It only requires chakra. It's change in chakra shape. Notice kakashi esentially learned it by watching and created chidori even he tried to apply the change in chakra nature. Konohamaru learned it fairly quickly and has significantly lower Chakra reserves. Naruto had to ask Asuma about how to use wind Chakra nature since he didn't understand how it's supposed to work. Again though Naruto had a focus. He'd already been learning it, he just had to perfect it when he challenged Tsunade. He had a goal because of the village and the position of Hokage.

[@luckymankwok]

comparing to one piece's 3D2Y timeskip, the writer gave every member of the strawhats a powerup from the individual islands they got thrusted into, and it's still being referenced till the recent fights. Even tho it's mostly off-scene but it shows you how rich the characters had been developed overtime

[@adnanbey4871]

The lackluster power up is the biggest issue with the timeskip. Jiraiya took Naruto to train for three years. Tsunade took Sakura and Orochimaru took Sasuke. Sasuke got all sorts of new abilities, hell, even Sakura did, even if they are uncreative as a carbon copy of Tsunade, but Naruto? He got nothing. 3 years with Jiraiya and he learned nothing. And something's telling me it's not because Jiraiya's a bad teacher.

[@zachmoore3997]

Hey man can we get some darui scaling/video on his character he’s one of the favorites if not the favorite character of mine in the show he reminds me of a mix of kakashi shikamaru and asuma

[@internetjerk2839]

When Jiraiya was trying to convince Naruto to learn the Rasengan in part1 he mentions how It doesn't require hand seals allowing it to be suddenly and catching the enemy off guard Naruto needing shadow clones to use Rasengan literally removes its major advantage against similar jutsu like chidori you'd think that would be the first thing Jiraiya would teach him

[@sufferhead6943]

Where do y'all get these color pages of the manga??

[@VolticWind]

Naruto should have learned Wind Release and been at least introduced to the concept of Senjutsu during the timeskip.

[@djmoneystacks7000]

Dude u make really good videos but could u talk a lil louder please? I had to put my headphones on full blast just to hear u

[@ryanthornton3556]

One thing I think illustrates this point well is the fact that, and I could be wrong but this is my recollection, in the first 60 episodes there is the training flash back for the Genjutsu and the flashback for the nine tails cloak. When I first saw that I expected more like “oh, I learned this” and then a flashback or whatever but I don’t think it happens again. Everything Naruto learns that really matters happens on screen chronologically. Though, I always took the time skip as Naruto becoming more worldly. Like he probably just met and helped a ton of people and that solidified his philosophy but he always had a very consistent philosophy anyway so that may be a weak statement .

[@clintongillespie4811]

At that point I would probably be consumed by hatred the Nine-Tails chakra would leak out either I would be controlled by it or would amplify my hatred and then I would wreak havoc on the village

[@denzelrn8677]

2 bird 1 stone, just make the giant rasengan an orange rasengan but with the size of a normal rasengan, so it show that naruto can control 9 tails chakras just a little bit, and we get a nice new power.

[@megamillion5852]

I am so happy for this era of good-faith Naruto critique.

[@poncho5503]

Characters got stronger, especially sasuke, and the events of shippuden would be weird if you imagine our characters being children, plus I heard the timeskip mainly happened because kishimoto needed to simplify the character designs

[@SaucemanK]

Why did u unlist the sauske video you made a few days ago?

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Pretty much agreed on all counts, especially for Naruto himself not really getting much stronger or THAT much savvier in that length of time.

[@animefanlt01]

Naruto is a coming-of-age story and so the progression of the MC's age is a natural part of the storytelling.

[@K.G444]

Or just lazy Shonen storytelling

[@animefanlt01]

@@K.G444 to each theirr own