Why New 2019 Honda CRF450L is TRASH 💩

What you NEED TO KNOW about the Honda CRF450L, NOT GOOD!
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[@chriscatron2978]

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[@corvette_jake7225]

CycleCruza those horsepower and torque numbers are not for the bikes entering the US market my man. Those power figures were released for the bikes that are being sold in Europe, Japan, China and other countries that have very strict smog laws. We wont know the power figures for the US market forsure until we get our first shipments but the industry rumor right now is that it's supposed to have 38-42 horsepower and an equal amount of torque

[@corvette_jake7225]

Ryan T someone needs to change their tampon

[@corvette_jake7225]

Ryan T this is exactly what happened with the wr250r. When the specs were first released everyone was in an uproar because it was stated that the wr250r would only have 15hp, but once it came State side we saw 20hp plus. They do this all the time with motorcycles, they release the European specs first

[@packinwood2009]

why though? KTM is European and street legal and has shittons of power.

[@ryzon8029]

You dead wrong on this one Cruza... Look forward to the follow up video saying how completely wrong you were...

[@killer44spl]

Honda fanboy

[@tylershelnut5057]

Teck Rylee I feel like you’re actually Cruza with a fake profile

[@jameshuntercox]

I believe that they need to meet requirements to release the bike but can easily regain it's power by do as so on video.

[@mattparker5639]

It probably will be in the mid 20bhp if it's like the suzuki rmx450 which is choked down with exhaust and Airbox and most importantly the throttle stop screw which doesn't even allow it half throttle. Makes like 16bhp at rear wheel take it all off which is illegal for the street and over 40bhp at rear wheel. I guess honda probably done the same thing to pass emissions and to get compliant with the road laws.

[@CycleCruza]

It'll be expensive to open her up, meanwhile, the ktm 500 has 63 hp and 30 lbs lighter stock and only $500 more.

[@user-vb5qy1nr1v]

How does hondaprokevin (on his own blog) state that both the 2018 crf250l and the crf450l only have 1 hp difference lol. No way the 450l makes less HP than my lawnmower rofl

[@DeepVerma728]

You're just better of picking up the old XR650L dual sport. All for the nice price of $6000.

[@CycleCruza]

No FI tho and a bit heavy.

[@RonTimmonsM1]

Deep Verma they have a brand new one for $4900 where I live new old stock

[@CollinMac96]

Its tall as fuck too!

[@jamesh8419]

Collin Mac i had one and it was the best bike ever.... if you were 7 feet tall

[@user-fl4wn9dn2c]

where is one for $4900 ?? Thanks, William

[@grypper4life]

I refuse to believe this bike will have such little power. 12:1 compression and that high meticulous of a maintenance schedule for only 25 horsies? Logically doesn’t make sense. Sounds like some bullshit info to me. They’re making sport bike with crazy high horse numbers that still pass these emissions laws so why would this bike be so terribly restricted as to only have 25 hp? Just doesn’t make sense. I just think y’all are high as fuck for believing this.

[@bwxmoto]

this ^

[@CycleCruza]

www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport

[@powerstroke8994]

Load that wr250 and head down to mountain ridge trails the 16th and support a great cause. Cancer sucks ride and large portions get donated. Be nice to see you do some actual trails riding too.

[@CycleCruza]

Sounds good, wish I could go!

[@skannal]

Well... back to building our own again LOL.

[@southerndeth]

Chroniclesofsolid also reported this bike having only 25 hp. It must be true!

[@loveamerica3426]

This video is misinformed and not based on experience you should change it or take it down

[@killer44spl]

Honda fanboy

[@mxrider637]

Teck Rylee no it’s definitely misinformation, the 450L has 25hp in Europe but has 40hp in the states. There’s more to the list but as far as the video is concerned it’s not quite accurate.

[@jcosk8]

"Here in Ohio we don't care about facts"

[@Gabe_Vidrio]

Now would be a great time for some one to say “ you shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet “

[@grh1993]

CycleCruza is a dumbass. You can believe that.

[@cruisinsixothree3960]

41.7 HP for the CRF450L

[@busboy3232]

Once the ACTUAL Specs are out you will be making a third video saying how good this bike is again.. I will be waiting

[@TarmacBlackIX]

The 250L and 450L have the same hp? I dont think so. Time will tell until honda releases official data

[@garyatilano8281]

Do they tho?

[@al3xxx918]

They have.. In europe for example

[@xlr8offroad]

It's almost physically impossible to have the same power as the CRF250L Rally...24hp and still pass emissions. They would have to run it so lean and choked down it wouldn't be reliable at 12:1 compression and 450cc. Honda is a multi-billion dollar company. They are breaking ground here.... 25hp is ludicrous. I like the channel brother, but you are listening to dead wrong speculation. It will be mid to high 40's easily. Mark my words..

[@bwxmoto]

Yes.. Hope CycleCruza comes to his senses and deletes this fake news vid. I like CycleCruza but this is a lot of BS in this video.

[@CycleCruza]

This was VERIFIED from HONDA :www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport From his blog: "Quite a few people have expressed concern on multiple forums, comment section below and on social media etc that the CRF450L’s horsepower rating on this page is a typo or incorrect. *The horsepower rating below is not a typo on my end. The 2019 CRF450L horsepower and torque numbers are directly from Honda* Thanks as always for the feedback though guys, you keep me on my toes when it comes to information like this and at times I do make mistakes so having thousands of extra eyes on the information can be helpful."

[@bwxmoto]

CycleCruza it wasn’t a typo on his end, it was BS info from a Honda representative. There’s no way in the world this bike only has 25hp.

[@xlr8offroad]

ADV Forum - Lengthy conversation with Honda Dealer about this bike. This bloke knows his bikes back to front, including rebuilding, ergonomics, compression, suspension etc.. When I informed him of some of the specs floating around for the bike he laughed his ass off...... According to him the bike will be mid to high 40's BHP (Laughed that a 450cc would be same output as the underpowered 250L) "That's one hell of a restrictive metal corset" he stated. All the increased detail internally is aimed at increasing service intervals to 8000 - 10000km for oil/air filter. ("No point dicking about with the engine if service intervals is the same as the MX versions, what would have been the bloody point..!") The rear frame can take loading, "Not hauling 200kg beer loading, but extra fuel/rotopax, camping gear no worries.", also stated "Yup the fuel tank is the size of a bee's d.......k...... but honda looking at giving a 11L or thereabout option then there will be a safari option within a very short time frame." YAY!.... Will be interesting to see how much BS has been published about this bike and what is indeed fact.... I tend to believe him more than the internet as he'll honestly slag any bike he thinks they cocked up on even if he's selling it... ("250L should have been a great bike, small fuel tank and ridiculously underpowered", according to him LOL..... )

[@CycleCruza]

PRO Honda Kevin WORKS AT HONDA! Research is your friend. I tend to believe someone who works at Honda rather than some dude on a forum. lol

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[@mattgreen9323]

You are wrong what you read is fake news the bike has a race engine and it's going to be fast it has the same engine as the crf450r just different cams and piston it's going to have the same power or a little less power then the race bike thats why theres so much mantaince do your homework a little more before you post this video to give people the wrong information

[@CycleCruza]

www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport Pro Honda Kevin works at Honda. Research is your friend.

[@NolifeSosun]

Trusting 1 article written by 1 guy is not research. Show me REAL indisputable proof that this is true and I'll believe it. Until then I'm not going to trust Pro Honda Kevin!

[@busboy3232]

CycleCruza will kevin still be your friend once the real specs are released and he is wrong?

[@Subi_doo]

450L engine is not the same as the 450r by any means

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[@chriszx14r62]

It's got a throttle stop like the wr450. Takes five minutes to remove. It will make over 50hp. It's going to be a great bike. My 2014 wr450f made 20 horsepower when I got it. You take the throttle stop out in 5 minutes and put a plug in it's place. Makes over 50hp in 5 minutes. Buy a Vmax by the way. Yes it's heavier because it has quality components.

[@CycleCruza]

UPDATE: Honda clarifies horsepower for CRF450L (Much Faster!) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIbQpa2FodZ0qsU

[@goodolboys713]

41 HP!!! Officially (Honda specs)

[@CycleCruza]

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[@AndrewLenhardt]

Fake news

[@CycleCruza]

www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport

[@CycleCruza]

NOTE: Pro Honda Kevin WORKS AT HONDA!

[@oso1165]

honda doesnt even advertise horsepower on their CURRENT bikes and you think this dude got the hp specs for a brand new unreleased bike.

[@chuckbowen4334]

Nope.. your source is incorrect. Honda has not posted HP numbers yet but it will be slightly less than than the crf450x..high forties. Cycle Cruza...don't be a fool. I like your website but...you are wrong. This bike is going to be a game changer. The WR250 is more of a turd than this crf..the WR250 should be crushed and melted down.

[@busboy3232]

CycleCruza Honda just wants to stir drama and have people talking about the bike and making videos.. Wait until the release date and you will see. But for now your giving them free advertisement

[@CycleCruza]

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[@lifesucks5322]

Dude ktm says that the excf 500 has 25hp but in reality it makes 60hp

[@purpleether5405]

Exactly. That figure means nothing. I bet it will be about 40bhp.

[@CycleCruza]

Where? KTM does not even release it's hp numbers. Somebody put the 500 exc-f on a dyno, 63 hp!

[@largejoseph7914]

yeah he never said that the ktm made 25hp?

[@sumgui6010]

Honda doesn't release their HP numbers either... what some guy who never dynoed the bike says is hearsay until the bike is put on a dyno...

[@Alpha4plaYer]

Sum Gui But they do... honda says the wet weight and hp on all their bikes ... you must accept that honda probably really fucked up ... and bdw honda did approve the stats that the ,, some guy,, said :)

[@CycleCruza]

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[@nukezat]

Really man? You back and forth on every topic, just looking double the channel view count?

[@CycleCruza]

No, I keep it real and inform my viewers. However, some people can't handle the truth: www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport

[@CycleCruza]

FYI - Unfortunately, I did not have the power specs when I made the first video, the bike had just come out the day before and the power specs were not available at the time. I was updated by a viewer in my first video and found a reliable source, Pro Honda Kevin who got his specs directly from Honda: www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport

[@nukezat]

CycleCruza fair enough, not knowing the specs beforehand I can see the disappointment. But being reasonable the only way they can transform a hot motocross engine that measures maintenance intervals in hours into a reliable dual sport with maintenance intervals way further apart was to detune it. Honda is just being honda and keeping it conservative.

[@nukezat]

For sure Yammie is going to step up to the plate but with the mt07 tenere, I doubt they will fill the gap with a 450r given that the 250r does a great job already.

[@grypper4life]

Another thing, I don’t think Honda is stupid enough to put out a bike at this price point and have such little power. You’re talking like crf250l power...ya know, a bike they already fucking make. They wouldn’t release this and with such little power and expect it to sell on brand loyalty alone. That would work in their favor about as well as a lead ballon

[@alvinfernandez9836]

What do you think about the 2018 cb1000. Looks like a good bike

[@sumgui6010]

Where are you getting these numbers from man? The CRF450X that this is based on, with same compression, piston etc pushes 45 hp...

[@CycleCruza]

CRF450X is not street legal, therefore was not neutered. CRf450l has 3 ring piston restrictive modified air box and a heavy crank. Power is reduced drastically. Read Pro Honda Kevin's blog on the crf450l, he deals directly with Honda: www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport

[@sumgui6010]

bro my CRF250L is 22hp and only 20lbs heavier and half the price, I don't really trust his break down - I highly doubt he got his hands on one and put it on the Dyno... I also heard 19,000 miles as the first major service (also supposedly honda verified)... lots of talk going on with this bike, but I would hope and assume the 25hp estimation is inaccurate. It obviously won't be a KTM, but I would be happy with like 35hp and 19,000mile service intervals.. hell I love my 250L just like you love your WR250 haha

[@SINIS0RSA]

Sum Gui Honda itself has confirmed the service intervals: 600miles Oils/Air filter 1800miles valves ~19000miles rebuild

[@sumgui6010]

that's where the 19000 miles comes from then, I got ya

[@SINIS0RSA]

Sum Gui Yep. Little bit dissapointing for a street legal enduro bike isn't it.

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[@PistNRods]

DRZ is loling right now

[@thumpertorque_]

7k vs 10k, I'm still set on the DRZ400SM just for that reason alone and it will be more than enough as my first bike.

[@thelocalskid2355]

Well it's not going to have 25 hp this guy is a idiot. But drz is shit to throw some slicks on on a real motobike. But yeah Suzuki is shit.

[@thumpertorque_]

They're both good and far from being trash/shit but DRZ400SM is just better and still the king of supermoto/dualsport lol

[@vondrz1391]

Just don't buy a drz if you want to do highway- 5 gear problem solved lmao. Just wheelie it and smile on the back roads

[@tcat19861]

PistnRods I have a 2017 DRZ 400 SM and I was considering trading it for this bike now I’m LOL Ing as well

[@williamriker1648]

I’ve been riding dirt bikes since 1973. Your facts are 100% incorrect! I own a modified 2009 WR250R which I LOVE!! I also own a very heavily modified 2006 Suzuki DRZ 400S with an RM fork on it--don’t ask it was a royal pain although it is as great as a 5 speed carburetor fed dual sport bike which needs a sixth gear can be. I also owned a lightened up modified KTM RXC 620 (They have a 608cc LC4 MOTOR). I also had a 2004 KTM 525 MXC-G Desert Racer with a six speed tranny and a stock 3.5 gallon tank. The first KTM was modified by and the second one was purchased from the same dealer in Las Vegas. The heavier RXC 620 will wheelie with just the throttle at over 9,000ft. The 525 KTM would pull a wheeliie in gears 1-3 again NO clutch was needed do do this from 2,000ft--10,000ft plus. Un-modified, HONDA’S CRF450L will wheelie with throttle only at 5,000+ft.. THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD DO THIS ON 25HP!!!! By the way the two older KTM’s I once had used racing pumper carburetor’s and they developed 50-60+HP depending on the bike. The bike I test rode today with far less modifications than my 2009 WR250R and the KTM’S I mentioned would EAT THEM ALIVE FROM 2,000-10,000 FEET!!! Only the 525 MXC-G could give it a serious run for its money. Will the CRF 450L ever beat Husqvarna 501 or the KTM 500 uh NO 50cc is a lot to overcome when bikes are fuel injected. Can the CRF 450L be uncorked so it runs so close they can’t ever lose sight of it on their heels? YES IF ALL THREE ARE RIDDEN BY COMPETENT RIDERS OF SIMILIAR EXPERIENCE. IF THE CFR RIDER WEIGHS 50LBS LESS THAN THE TWO AUSTRIAN QUEENS THEN THE CRF COULD BEAT THEM. IS THE WP XPLOR SUSPENSON BETTER THAN THE SHOWA? Yeah. Enough to beat the CRF? I doubt it and I love WP suspensions! Put a 50 lb lighter rider of equal skill and experience on the CRF450L AND IT WILL EQUAL OR MOST LIKELY BEAT THE AUSTRIANS! There is one area where THERE IS ZERO QUESTION AS TO WHO WINS HANDS DOWN AND IT IS HONDA BECAUSE HONDA ABSOLUTELY MOPS PLANET EARTH AGAINST KTM, HUSQVARNA AND ALL OTHER EUROPEAN MAKES--WITH A MUCH LARGER NETWORK OF WORLDWIDE DEALER SUPPORT WITH HIGH QUALITY PARTS WHICH COST A LOT LESS THAN THE AUSTRIAN AND OTHER EUROPEAN BIKES. I rode KTM in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Cost of parts, new bike quality and reliability below Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki eventually lead me to get rid of all my KTM’S what back when people were still asking “KTM, WHAT KIND OF KAWASAKI IS THAT?” I’m serious! Have I test ridden the new bikes? YES!!!!! I’m ECSTATIC TO SEE THIS SURGING OF THE EUROPEAN DIRT AND DUALSPORT MARKET BECAUSE NOW PEOPLE KNOW KTM IS NOT A MODEL OF Kawasaki!!!! We have MORE CHOICES OF HIGH PERFORMANCE AND QUALITY DUALSPORTS than we once did in motorcycles!!! (O.K. I admit my last statement isn’t true but it sure as heck seems like it!) One last suggestion, unless you personally own, have owned, OR have a family member, friend or a dealer with a bike who is willing to let you seriously test ride it I suggest dialing back the unsubstantiated “I AM THE AUTHORITY/EXPERT” rhetoric and commentary!!!! Now to be AS FAIR AS I CAN BE TO YOU, I must tell you, the 25 HP is supposedly for some European Union countries. HOWEVER, AS I AM NOT A EUROPEAN I WILL NOT STATE THIS AS IF IT IS FACT!!! ALSO I AM NOT GOING TO FLY OVER TO EUROPE TO VERIFY THE THE VALIDITY OF SUCH A STATEMENT! I read this and some U.S.& Canadian Rocky Mountain Honda dealers looked into it and they feel fairly certain this is correct-BUT ONLY FOR SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES! However, even the HONDA Dealers wouldn’t make a concrete statement about castrated EUROPEAN CRF450L’S. With 45 years+ of riding experience I know the bike I was fortunate enough to try at over 5,000+FT altitude is a mid to high 40’s HP stock bike which is whisper quiet!! It could easily be legally uncorked to enhance performance up to between 50-60+H.P.-depending on your budget and state-with an equally impressive increase in torque. Outside of Comradefornia this bike has definite potential far beyond stock. Bikes don’t wheelie at over a mile of elevation above sea level when they are built as big as the one I rode on with only 25HP!! SORRY CYCLE CRUISER BUT IN THIS CASE IT IS YOUR “facts” WHICH ONLY HAVE 25 H.P.!!! I DO NOT MEAN TO SOUND RUDE DISRESPECTFUL OR CONDESCENDING BUT YOUR “facts” aren’t even factual they are FLAT OUT WRONG ERRORS!!! NOW BEFORE YOU JUMP ON ME OR OTHERS ATTACK CYCLECRUZZA, PLEASE REMEMBER WE ARE ALL HUMAN AND WE ARE ALL ALLOWED TO MAKE A BIG MISTAKE NOW AND THEN!!!! AND THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT I’M CHALKING UP YOUR COLOSSAL ERROR TO IN THIS CASE. I’M STILL GOING TO FOLLOW YOU!!!!!! ONE TIP-(or piece of advice from a guy who was riding when rear mono shocks didn’t exist and remembers when they were new and is closing in on 50 years of riding)-ON REAL NEW MACHINES, IF THE FACTS DON’T JIVE WITH WHAT THEY SHOULD BE, RESERVE JUDGEMENT AND COMMENT UNTIL YOU HAVE TAKEN A LOT MORE TIME TO VERIFY NUMBERS OR YOU HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!! Now admit your error, and get back on your bike and keep on cruising so I can follow the AWESOME CYCLE-CRUZZA who made an understandably human mistake. DUDE YOU STILL ROCK IN MY BOOK AND I LOVE YOUR YOUTH AND ENTHUSIASM!!! SO KEEP RIDING AND KEEP AND SHARING PLEASE! YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB SO I/WE’LL SPOT YOU THIS MISTAKE!!!!! PEACE AND HAPPY TRAILS. OLD DOG

[@alden138]

$10k for a dual sport is way to much. I would rather just get an outdated drz or the wr250 brand new... Customize either one and still have money leftover well below $10k..

[@CycleCruza]

Exactly, and wayyyy less wrenching and better reliability.

[@dougiequick1]

Still only have something half baked either way ....you have to pay to play ...always have

[@indepth100]

The way I read it, the European version has 24 hp. The U.S. version is closer to 45 hp.

[@sciencemilitia1853]

THATS THE EUROPEAN VERSION

[@charliefoxtrot4154]

hondas are always under powered. compare the honda 680 rincon to any 500 cc quad, and they make the same horsepower still love honda anyway owned many

[@Roadstar1602]

25 horsepower is horseshit. I have a 250 starter bike for my daughter and it has 25 horsepower. If a 450 is only making 25 horsepower that is an extremely inefficient engine.

[@bwxmoto]

It's because this is fake news. It will have probably double that.

[@dmac3927]

It has over 40

[@CycleCruza]

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[@taco-rblx-20]

Inb4 he buys it and says it's the greatest bike in the world

[@CycleCruza]

naw man. lol Honda is no longer in the business of making cutting edge bikes. Their full on dirt bikes are still good though.

[@shitboxoffroad]

PSYCHOCRUZA

[@jimmymitchell209]

Your WRONG 45-50hp PLEASE don't ad to fake news. You have bad info!

[@anoos1415]

Dirt bike =KTM all the way

[@benhawke7231]

Anas Alalwe Naw... Maico is better. And KTM has absorbed Maico.

[@bithynian3700]

Nah, Yamaha invented everything about dirt. Rest is copy cats :) You know its true.

[@justingregersen8084]

Anas Alalwe = FANBOY all the way

[@albundy6804]

YER THE WR 450 ARE OK BUT STILL PICK THE KTM ANYDAY ,EXTRA GEAR AND MORE CHOOKS!!

[@andydrummer3754]

I was in a Honda dealer in Australia yesterday and the sales guy told me two versions will be available for Australia. He actually saw it last week at Honda hq in Australia. And I've seen Facebook photos to declare one of them is in the country. Now, in Australia we have this thing called lams. For learner riders. They get same bike, but restricted. All of us full licenced riders get un restricted. The 25 horse power version sounds like a lams bike. He told me that we can buy restricted or un- restricted. And all is needed to change the from one to another is ecu swapped over. I guarantee, the un-restricted version will pump out 40-50 horsepower at the crank. I was considering a wr before this was announced by Honda but now going to wait till this is available in October. it will shit all over the 20 year old, drz. This dealer sold Suzuki, Honda and BMW. He said it looks great in the flesh and they've not done a half assed job on it. I commented on reading that it had 25 horsepower from a internet site in the states and he said that they have really strict emissions controls and they get their bikes choked up from the factory. This will be a game changer. Expect, Japanese manufacturers to follow suit.

[@DSC71789]

It was a bike with great potential, a bike that was long in the making (looking at you Suzuki), a reliable, low maintenance, 450cc daul sport with FI, a 6-speed transmission, an weighing less than 300lbs, so news of its release was exciting, thus the previous video. However, with this update, it appears Honda made $10K gutter trash called a CRF450L, thus this update video. It's not called being Bi polar or flip flopping. It's just the nature of reporting on something new. Thank you CycleCruza.

[@CycleCruza]

If I had the information I have now, that first video would be this video. I'm just updating my viewers.

[@CollinMac96]

Better off with the wr250r or drz400. People were asking for a 450 dual sport WITH dual sport maintenance. Not this shit... Suzuki has a chance to update their drz with a 6speed and efi. May have to go back to the drawing board but they would steal the market!

[@ABC-wv3uc]

Exactly! It may cost about 9k. Would you still buy it?

[@CollinMac96]

Fuck yea! It would definitely help my channel grow

[@CycleCruza]

I don't understand how KTM can make a 500 exc-f and japan can't? Probably because KTM sells less bikes, they must get an exemption..

[@CollinMac96]

CycleCruza who knows man. I might just say fuck it and get a wr and mod it like you lol

[@CycleCruza]

Collin Mac - Get a wr250r and mod it, trust me, it's a great bike. You wil ride more than wrench and it's ultra reliable with parts that are super easy to get. Even when I add a 2 stroke, I'm keeping my w250r which can do a little bit of everything. It's like having a swiss army knife of a motorcycle that will never let you down.

[@tomcat6933]

Why is this video still on you tube. This was wrong info?

[@marksearsjr]

Man not to say anything bad but I do miss the old way you did things. Top 5 top 4 is just getting old. Let’s see some riding again. Sleeper van was awesome.

[@JoeRockstar]

Dude cmon maaaaan? Lol. The horsepower issue is wrong. That dude is not talking to Honda. "Fake news" "turd"? Lol did you get that from me? Dude get a 500!

[@CycleCruza]

www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-crf450l-review-specs-motorcycle-dual-sport

[@JoeRockstar]

CycleCruza yeah. That guy is not Honda. He is quoting the European Honda Press release. We still don't have numbers for the North American version.

[@petebusch9069]

A review of a bike you don't own, haven't ridden, full of misinformation.

[@philankney4551]

Exactly

[@TheGMacc]

You didn't even ride this thing.

[@stephenromano1906]

Are we absolutely certain on the Performance stats & service intervals? If what you are saying is accurate than I just can’t understand why anyone would invest in this. The old 650 dual sports are better. The WR250R is superior. It’s confusing to me. Something appears off.

[@CycleCruza]

It makes no sense to me either. Why would someone get a crf450l with dirt bike maintenance for $10,300 but is only a 25 hp?

[@stephenromano1906]

I’m kind of hoping the hp and service figures will be improved once actual bike is launched. I got really excited when this was first announced.

[@wakawaka12320]

CycleCruza it makes no sense because its bs you clown. Yes I understand to be euro 5 compliant it needs to be restricted but not by that much, it's either got a throttle stop that's easily removed or it's simply just bullshit information. The majority of non high performance 250cc motorcycles on the market today make around 20-25. Honda aren't stupid they will not spend millions of dollars developing a new motorcycle for it to be no better than their 250 for gods sake. And at the price their asking? Common........

[@mentiofficialxd]

Damn I was hyped but after hearing those specs it sounds like trash

[@doctorhelicopter]

ManaChan Yeah it doesnt hold enough oil to be a dual sport

[@sciencemilitia1853]

The U.S version will have far more power due to different licensing requiremeNvts for our riders. Also, think about how rediculously easy it will be to upgrade this entire bike with Ebay's deep stockpile of CRF450R parts.

[@libertyliberty4371]

My opinion this bike is craizy toooooooooooooo expensive !!!

[@CycleCruza]

especially with those shitty power specs.For $500 more you might as well get a KTM 500 exc-f that kills the crf450l in every way.

[@Alpha4plaYer]

Thomas Taylor And here we have another honda diehard fanboy :\, im sad to bring you the news but, it is way too expensive for what it is ...

[@RemusGherase]

ffs, as I said before. Get a KTM / HUSQVARNA it's just better in every way

[@xterrential]

Remus Gherase Beta...

[@midibudu]

RJ proved it, the 701sm that he had for 2 weeks shreded the street

[@joshdurham7832]

Y because that's what u have so it must be the best? All 6 of my families bikes are honda and ktm.. They're on the same level... Plus there no way this bike has 25hp, the 450x has 45 and the same compression. Or just throw a bigger carb and exhaust on there and make it a street legal 450r with triple sealed piston for longevity..

[@jimjumbuka4161]

Beta 500RRS Is the best deal on the planet period. Fully loaded 1year full warranty, awesome local and USA factory support, been in business the longest...did I mention ridability? Compare for yourself...out of the box nothing comes close, you have to spend big $ on mods to make them work as good as a stock Beta

[@jeffmccallum9059]

Except long term reliability.

[@paulschonschack3051]

Guess I'll keep looking at DRZ400s on Craigslist

[@Alaskandualsport]

hey cycle cruza WR250r's rule dude,,(thumbs up)

[@CycleCruza]

So far nothing is better, as far as super low maintenance and the ability to be able to do a little bit of everything and ultra reliable.

[@gerrynicholas2920]

Only thing I’d say is better is the drz but if I remember right no fuel injection with those.

[@CycleCruza]

@Gerry Nicholas - Also, the DRZ only has 5 gears and is *25 lbs heavier* with not all that much more power and requires a little bit more maintenance compared to the wr250r, especially the carb maintenance.. WR250r valve check is at 26,500 miles vs DRZ400 at 18k miles. The Wr250r valves are known to NEVER go out of spec either, even at 50k miles.

[@benhawke7231]

Not enough hp and the engine is to small.

[@mtube620]

yep, I rev the snot out of my wr250x and all I do is fill gas and once a year oil change. I don't even check tire pressure or rad fluid beoz I know they're good

[@CycleCruza]

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[@rsca94]

1 hp more then the 250l lol

[@CycleCruza]

Soichiro Honda is rolling over in his grave.

[@CollinMac96]

Id rather get the 250l. Yes its heavier but you het dual sport maintenance and i believe a slightly larger tank with better mpg at half the price lol

[@CycleCruza]

truth

[@davidcormier8968]

The 25hp was a typo

[@davidmack5286]

crf250l is 22.8 hp. There's no possible way the crf450l only has 25hp. Honda made a typo...

[@Stalinator445]

I have a crf450l with an aftermarket ecu and exhaust. It rips. Please tell me you mind has changed over tiem

[@mxgryan]

Pretty sure the HP figure was misprinted. Seems like a crazy mistake though.

[@ramiretz]

Its very hard to release a Legal DirtBike today with all that Emission Standards.... All KTM Bikes comes Emission Legal with under 20HP ... they need to be remapped/opened up for full power mostly the Shops/Importer does it and after this its also no more Emission Legal ;-) i am from Austria and i worked many years for KTM in the engineering department

[@whitecompany18]

I'm a Honda guy but thats a turd, I know uk bikes are fully derestricted and I havnt seen uk stats yet but thats a turd! My daily rider is my 98 xr250r and I think that has more power than the new one... I love my Honda n'all but iv just fallen in love with a brown 08 Yamaha xtz 660 tenere ... Oh my god.. 660 single and the damn thing looks like an apache gunship and its mine for 3k with 10k on the clock... Yo cycle cruiser.. I need a dollar dollar dollar thats what I need . Put that crib on hold and hook a brother up ; ) haha

[@TubeSocksMalone]

You're right and I think we mostly share the same opinion on this one. 25HP fuck outta here lol I love Honda but damn 25HP and lord I hope that's to the wheel lol. WHYYYYY Honda WHYYY

[@CycleCruza]

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[@richkunkiewicz1357]

This is a 40+ hp very reliable well designed bike. I own a ktm 640 and considering a switch to the 450l.

[@jims-tek]

That's bad. My CB300F has 30HP and it is a street bike that can be easily modded for dirt riding and costs half as much. Honda did terrible with that bike.

[@guzziguy2011]

Ummm, this is indeed, “Fake News”. Jesus H, a little research and factory spec checking should’ve been Reading 101. Talk about liking to hear oneself talk? Almost as many Thumbs Down as Thumbs Up. So, basically half the class failed Reading/Video Comprehension 101.

[@zrkn1]

I was waiting on those service requirements and stats. For $10000.00 we should not have to completely rebuild the bike to make it acceptable. This environment BS. is killing motorcycles yet big auto can build gas sucking trucks and cars that pollute 10 times as much as a motorcycle. It's all money and politics and as usual the people get screwed.

[@CycleCruza]

Exactly! We have much more to worry about than emissions from motorcycle which are a minority. Lawn equipment is probably producing more emissions than motorcycles as a whole.

[@macneoh7418]

Well when you put it like that....this new Honda doesn't look to impressive. I wasn't to excited about it anyway, the seat height is to tall and the weight is not that great either. Nice try Honda. Maybe there's some easy mods to get more power by making it less EPA friendly, but idk. The EPA really sucks in this country. Why are they picking on dual sport motorcycles when they get 70+ miles per gallon?! If anything the EPA should encourage the dual sport revolution, not try to kill it.

[@sirabe7223]

I can't believe it's 25hp (has to be FAKE NEWS) and nearly 10,5! I have a 17' Husky 701E and it makes over 70, costs a bit more and weighs a bit more but seriously. Who'd pick the Honda?! Sure it's probably extremely reliable but that's just a huge performance gap with a tiny price difference. Absolutely can NOT BE 25HP. You Sir are confused... They really are gonna let the 250L and 250L Rally have more??

[@caedenteichroew2554]

Ok first off the new crf450l DOES NOT have 25 hp! The engine is a borrowed design from the crf450x which makes around 45 hp. You know how hard it would be to even MAKE a 25hp 450?you would have to extremely choke out the engine! Honda said themselves that the crf450l will be making mid 40s hp IN THE USA! Maybe the crf450ls are making 25hp out of the US? I don’t know but still very hard to believe

[@meals24u]

The power in Canada is gonna be better than 25hp, Honda says (and I’m sure it’ll be same as US) buuuuuut, literally the only problem I have is the price... Really??? Like 11-12 grand in Canada when I can get a new drz400sm for like 7, or exotic European for the same 12k??? That is a fail!! I love my KTM, and wouldn’t make the switch to a lesser performing bike for same money and maintenance.. Why are dualsports so expensive anyway??? Niche?

[@pete392]

I have WR250r, FMF Q4, powerbomb, removed all crap, airbox open, 13/48.... it is AWESOME - exactly all I want and need in this bike. I change oil every 1000 - 2000 just because I love it and that is overkill..... this Honda looks like a miss- good vid this time you are right :) LOOOOOVE the channel!!

[@darrenwilson3732]

I have the 2017 KTM 500exc, Plenty of "Usable" Power,,,,,, stock! No Motor mods needed, including the exhaust. It did get a skid plate and better seat, not very comfortable long distance, but, offroad, it will do anything and go anywhere. Happy with purchase. $10,500 otd in Phoenix Az.

[@mrjay4000]

Cycle Cruza spreading fake news for sure & the 2017+ KTM & Husky 500 dual sports do not make as much power stock as previous models, definitely not 63hp. BTW, June Dirt Bike mag declared Beta 500RRS more powerful than the Husky 501.

[@jondavis4053]

KZbin anti-spam is blocking me from ref'ing the URL, but it's now verified, it's 40+ HP, and the 24-25HP rumor is tossed out as junk rumor. Please visit advpulse dot com and search for "7 Things To Know About The All-New Honda CRF450L".

[@DN4AGDX]

Wow what a disappointment. I'm a Kawasaki guy and was hoping they would bring back the klx450. I love the KTM 500exc but damn that price is high. I almost bought the wr250 but went ahead and bought a 2018 klx250. I couldn't be the price compared to what the new Wr250 cost. Great video.

[@toddkurtz7635]

I own a 2017 ktm500 excf. You need to understand some basics of dyno numbers. The 63 hp claimed by KTM is a crank horsepower number on a non US bike with no reed cage and richer efi mapping. A stock US ktm500 excf makes approximately 40 horsepower, give or take 1 or 2, at the rear wheel. A stock crf450r is much stronger on top than a stock ktm500excf. Having said all that, I removed the reed cage in the intake, removed the perforated screen from the exhaust, and added a JD efi fuel tuner. The bike now makes about 50 rear wheel horsepower. The Honda will not have 24 horsepower. Don't be ridiculous. I hope I have educated you on dyno numbers.

[@richsquillace4157]

Hey cruza, it is fake news. They accidentally posted the 250 L Rally specs. Will your opinion change any. The HP IS IN THE 40,s range Oil change is suggested at600 Miles I am sure it can be stretched a little depending on your abuse levels. Valves if I recall need to be checked then the motor should be good for 20,000 Miles which Honda called a major service .just an FYI Ride safely

[@WatataWilly248]

The 2018 CRF250L makes 24hp, I can guarantee that honda isn't making a 450 variant for 1 more horespower I expect the numbers to be around the 450x numbers. Coming from a DRZ owner this thing is going to have everything the DRZ has been lacking its entire life. Fuel injection, lighter weight, 6 gears and LED lights out of the box just to name a afew. Slap some street slicks on this thing and you'd have one badass supermoto.

[@ryanwilliams4270]

IDC what kind of anti-KTM fanboy you think you are by buying some other japp 450 a daaaay late and a dollar more, but no... KTM is worth the money. I don't know why you would even look at this for 10grand. I was thinking 8,500. They said 10 and I said "why would I buy that?" "But he's wrong, it only makes 15 less horsepower than the KTM, and has none of the other features he compared, it's still worth 10?" Lol. You just want to think KTM didn't solve this problem 15 years ago.

[@dano4572]

Well,,,,, back in the day,,,big fart,,! Anyway, I bought a 500 CR Honda, ( 2002 ish), did the DOT thing with it and I then had a 500cr street bike. Wonder if this could be done as a rebuilt engine, being the "L",,"R" ENGINE.I'm just b,sin here. I forgot my point now. Strokes do that to ya! BUT,,, 1985 490 Maico Spiders RULE!!!!! pills are wearing off. just sayin

[@canton7180]

their are people who will buy it regardless...……...of 25 crank horsepower, my state you can take any dirt bike and add street gear and dot tires and plate it, why the fuck would someone pay $10k.....titanium fuel tank??????WTF????

[@benhawke7231]

You're wrong. KTM, Husqavarna, and Maico all have street legal dirt bikes. 2stroke and 4stroke. And yes 2stroke is legal for street use here in U.S. . the Maico 685 enduro is a 2stroke U.S. steel legal dirt bike in all 50 states because it meets Euro 4 emissions standards. The best part is it has 86 horse ponies and can do 120mph on the street. Has tons of low end torque and flywheel for trail riding. Electric start or kick. Comes with turn signals, brake and high/low beam head lights. Mirrors sold separately. The 2018 Maico 685 enduro is the most powerful street legal dirt bike on the market at this time. You can have one shipped to you from Germany for around $11,000. Plus could you imagine the dirty looks you'd get from all the prius drivers out there when you role up next to them on a 2stroke scream'n demon. Bet you can't show me a better enduro.

[@crxracr]

To anyone that believes this thing is only gonna have 25hp...lmao! For fucks sake the ancient drz400 makes like 32hp! We all know damn well it's gonna be down on power over the KTM/Husky but not like 40hp down haha. There's no power specs posted on Honda's website and beyond that, you really think this thing is gonna make the same power a a CRF250L?! In the end until we all get to ride one we just don't know.

[@gonzalvezalvez6572]

How come this 450 has the same power of the 250?!?! The bike is not for sale yet! How can you know? Is you first name Soichiro?!? I believe not! I would prefer an Honda Xr 125cc to any Austrian rotten trash (KTM)...at least it is reliable. So I dont know where all this delusion comes from, maybe the moonshine where you live is running low on octanes! LOL!

[@josephnibba1231]

HONDA POSTED THE WRONG INFO Representatives of honda said that Europe's CRF250 horsepower and torque were posted on accident. The horsepower is in the mid 40s

[@thatstyte]

I think this is a case where the very smart engineers at honda are saying "we've looked into it, and the 25 hp and 23.6 ft lbs is exactly prefect for non competition trail use on a bike this weight" And honestly? They're probably right- this bike is probably fire off tarmac... You could almost justify it over the KTM if it's going to run like a Honda. But with those service intervals? No way

[@alphacapo]

It costs too much. You can get a used 300 2stroke real deal mud bike. And a used street bike a fee years of insurance for the price. If you want a half aSS BIG MOTOR dirt bike THATS STREET LEGAL just get a drz.. Or KL even the wr is better than this honda. Nobody that does serious dirt riding racing does it on a dual sport. If you just want to fuck around yamaha also and suzuki bikes are tested andxwork great. If you want to race. Get the real deal period

[@jacobrobinson5055]

As this may all we'll be true, Japanese bikes are regulated a lot more than European bikes such as metal gas tanks on KTM's where Honda's have to have metal gas tanks. European bikes are also exempt to other US regulations. Also are KTM's 49 or 50 state legal cause I'm not sure on that without looking it up. For the Honda, with a little work done like off-road exhaust, cut out airbox, reset the ECU, and throttle stop removal, you would have a really strong machine. Now I understand many people will argue this by saying they live in states or counties which require vehicle inspections so they can't "red sticker" their bikes. I understand in some places that's a problem, but up here in North Georgia where I live we don't have that problem so we can modify to our hearts content. It sucks to be under those regulations and if that affects you then definitely buy the KTM but if not and you're a huge Honda fan, buy the Honda and make into the kick-ass bike it deserves to be. That's all for today folks, I'll see y'all next time!

[@brianjohnson148]

Well, you just made up my mind! I have always loved HONDA, but DAM. 25 HP, thats it??? Looks like I will keep looking at the KTM and Husquvarna. The 701 is at 72 Horse, thats enough for my fat ass.

[@fast_odin]

Yes but, Honda can make mistakes, for exampel, for the Cb 1000r, here in spain, in the official website, you can actually read: fron tire 190/(something), and rear tire 80/(something). I mean something similar to that

[@BartStar009]

I don't understand why nobody can build an off-road, dual sport maxi scooter such as the Suzuki Burgman 400-650, Yamaha Tmax, or Honda Silverwing, Polaris can build one.

[@Bruce.Wallace]

Man you are miles off on this. The power will be easily uncorked. It will have throttle limiters along with the exhaust and emissions stuff etc. You will get 50hp out of this thing with basic mods. You won't need to be rebuilding the thing from the ground up to get power out of it. It's still essentially a CRF450R motor. Still won't have the reliability of a DRZ400, but will be a decent alternative if you're happy with the maintenance.

[@SD-co5sv]

There is no perfect DP bike. All of us are different in age, skill, income and how we wish to ride. Government is the biggest problem with all the stupid regs they force on manufacturers and continue ad nausea to pile on more. Older models are exempt from newer regs for example, thus Kawi, Honda, Suzuki continue to make the DR and 650's. If they made a new model 650 they have to meet today's regs! Imagine the bikes we'd have to choose from if our governments weren't so anal? Manufacturers must meet current noise and emissions regs. What's the first thing nearly everyone does??? Change the exhaust and fuel ratios voiding the governments regs! The entire system is ridiculous. I disagree with CC in that I hope Honda sells a lot of these 450's. If they do not it will be dropped and others won't bother making any either.

[@nitrofarm5331]

A KTM 500 EXC-F requires pretty much a full engine overhaul at 135 hours. My buddy has one and showed me the owners manual. But that's why I'm gonna hang onto my little WR250R a little longer it's hard to beat.

[@floriantroscher5083]

Also the inspection intervals are a pain in the ass at those KTM, what comes on top of this is that the modern EXC 4-strokes are pretty much done after 140 hours of running without an complete rebuild...Those bikes are made for profit where for example my 2011 Husaberg FE 390 runs after 400 hours of riding just as new. And this bike has never seen more the a valve check and fresh engine oil. I can't say if the Honda takes more hours than the KTM but if it does it would be my way to go!