Why Nintendo Hates Their Music (and You)

It’s time to talk about Nintendo music. And no, not in a fun way. We can talk about the Mario Odyssey pause menu AFTER we talk about disrespectful copyright practices.
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Music:
Butter Building - Kirby’s Epic Yarn
Main Menu - Kirby Star Allies
Sound Test - Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
Picture Result - Kirby Star Allies
Looping Steps - Super Mario 64
Lookin’ Fresh - Splatoon
Field Theme 1 - Ring Fit Adventure
Don’t Slip - Splatoon 2
Rugby Sevens - Mario & Sonic Rio 2016
Shop Theme - Blinx the Time Sweeper
Welcome to VA-11 HALL-A - VA-11 HALL-A
Game Over - Kirby Star Allies
So Happy World - Persona 5 Royal
Muck Warfare - Splatoon 2
Endolphin Surge - Splatoon 2
Slide - Super Mario 64
Fight Against a Stronger Monster - Super Mario RPG
Liberator’s Hideout - Shin Megami Tensei Dx2
Specialist - Persona 4
DK Island Swing - Donkey Kong Country
Kainé / Salvation - NieR Replicant 1.22
Dire Dire Docks - Super Mario 64
Stickerbrush Symphony - Donkey Kong Country 2
Meteor Herd - Sonic Adventure 2
Additional Sources:
Jungle Groove Restored to HD
• Jungle Groove Restored...
Splatoon 2: OST Selection: Side A | Vinyl Rip (Nintendo)
• Splatoon 2: OST Select...
Rivals of Aether: GDC 2016 - Dan Fornace vs ReidlosToof - Winner Ro16
• Rivals of Aether: GDC ...
Station Situation - A Hat in Time Mods: Space Modding Jam
• Station Situation - A ...
Pikmin 3 Deluxe | #3 [No Commentary 100% HD]
• Pikmin 3 Deluxe | #3 [...
Sonic X Reanimate
• SONIC X REANIMATE
Line Them Up! A Paper Mario: The Origami King Concert
• Line Them Up! A Paper ...
Mario Party DS Anti Piracy Screen
• Mario Party DS Anti Pi...
Super Mario 64 Anti-Piracy Screen
• Anti-Piracy Screen
Animal Crossing New Horizons Anti Piracy Screen
• Animal Crossing New Ho...

[@Arthur_url]

TL;DR: Nintendo is fantastic when making games, but huge assholes when it comes to... Everything else regarding their customers

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

Nintendo really hates their own fans for some reason

[@Mal-go5dl]

Even thier games are slipping in quality now

[@radiccol]

@@Mal-go5dl no they arent lol, they're the same as always.

[@outtaideas849]

@@Mal-go5dl if you're referring to what I think you are, that's Game Freak.

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

@@outtaideas849 the wii u and 3ds era had a lot of stinkers like amiibo party, ultra smash, a million new soup games, chibi robo ziplash, starfox zero, Mario party 9 and 10, and now on the switch we have the new golf game with barely any content receiving the actual game as free dlc, new horizons was the same at launch being lesser than the previous game pre-updates and had the one save problem, 3d all stars, fire emblem 1 and mario online being limited and barebones... Nintendo made a lot of bad to mediocre games and still does that. But they know people will buy even underwhelming products at full price because they're Nintendo.

[@jamesalexander5559]

Fun fact for ya: The composer for the original Star Fox actual quit working at Nintendo because they wouldn't allow him to release the game's soundtrack on CD/Cassette. Correction: a CD did get released in 1995 but Hajime was not given royalties since he didn't own those compositions and had stop working at Nintendo years prior due to an ownership dispute. He wanted to have ownership like Squaresoft and Enix's composers did.

[@bens5093]

Tragic loss, as seeing how amazing tracks like Corneria and Space Armada were. Would have loved to hear what he might have composed for future Star Fox games

[@ScottE-2]

Got a citation for that one?

[@jamesalexander5559]

@@ScottE-2 Dylan Cuthbert says that's why he left.

[@asianjackass237]

@@ScottE-2 Just ask Dylan. He's not afraid to speak about it since he no longer works for Nintendo

[@ScottE-2]

@@jamesalexander5559 WHERE. I am asking for a citation of your information.

[@FizzyChalice]

Nintendo: You want this “thing”? Too bad, we’re not giving it to you. Also Nintendo: Why are people taking our content illegally? That’s ours.

[@ponponpatapon9670]

we live in a fucking dystopia

[@corn1127]

@@ponponpatapon9670 we live in a society

[@newspider5693]

"Do you want this thing to the point where you would literally pay for it? Too bad, fuck you."

[@Extremezotako]

LMAOOOO

[@thisisbup]

uhhhhhh

[@gremlindo]

It's kind of funny to me that the phrase "SEGA does what NintenDON'T" is still pretty accurate

[@GlitchanBlack]

And even then... if you look at Colors Console, Lost World, Forces, and TSR... SEGA isn't exactly perfect either.

[@joobtheboob]

@@GlitchanBlack sega isn't perfect sure, but which company is the one C&D'ing every fan game?

[@YuuyaKZMI]

@@GlitchanBlack >making a talking point of Sega not being perfect to dumb down the almost objective statement Bro, name me a company that is 100% perfect.

[@GlitchanBlack]

@@YuuyaKZMI I can't, because you've got a point: no company is 100% perfect.

[@muchotexto4248]

@@GlitchanBlack SEGA is way more open to their people. I will always feel more loved by SEGA than Nintendo no matter who slaps harder

[@RealValkor]

nintendo: *takes down a unnoficial OST playlist" fans ,archivers and reposters: good luck with that

[@ARandomNope]

I feel like yeah, it's gotten to the point of a stalemate currently, and the more nintendo takes down music, the more fans will upload that same music, and it's just a matter of who will back down first, and it certainly won't be the fans.

[@meskonyolsen6657]

*NEW CATEGORY* COPYSTRIKE%

[@IcefangGD]

We repost faster than youtube scam bots can make a new account

[@blackout4328]

Cry about it

[@Whiteythereaper]

The problem with that is that everytime the file is reuploaded and redownloaded it degrades in quality. The only way to get true high quality copies is to copy it personally locally from someone's ripped files or downloading raw uncompressed files from a dropbox or google drive. Preservation only comes from true archiving

[@Gamemaster13000]

Gee, for a company that hates piracy, they seem to be completely inept on methods to stop it. Rule 1 of combating Piracy: If you make acquiring a legal version of your product convenient, even if it costs money, a large sum(if not a majority) of fans will buy said product for the convenience alone.

[@maybemablemaples2144]

This, that's why it sucks that everyone is coming up with company specific streaming services cause that makes piracy go up. It's literally supply demand at its simplest and Nintendo goes lul what 0head take.

[@spiritwildfiregaming1975]

And that was also said by none other than Gabe Newell, CEO of Valve!

[@lautarogomez9711]

@@spiritwildfiregaming1975i don't care about Gabe Newell and hl3. Gaming industry is about to fail once again and never rise again. Is all over now. Nintendo will fall, as well Sega, Capcom, Sony, square enix, Io interactive. All of them will fall, and disney will rise on top as the Orwellian big brother then Disney will fall as well. And then there will be nothing left but the decay of society. And who's shall be the one to blame?. We, the humans . The humans always had that quest for destroy everything they build and they always try to do anything they can to keep themselves on the top. Even if it means kill everything that help you rise. Corruption and greed and arrogance is what describes humanity right now. What we are seeing in 2021 is nothing but the inevitable end of times. And once it happens. We shall be forgotten in the endless void, and if it where to be a next generation. They will never even care if we ever existed or not. For we are doomed to repeat history. We will never learn and we always keep doing the same mistakes. Accept it. Is all over now. Our generation is dead. Humanity is dead The only thing we can do is just wait till we are no longer alive. I am not a pessimistic. I am just trying to give you a insight of what grim future awaits us.

[@heehooobsessor7907]

@@lautarogomez9711 ok doomer

[@spiritwildfiregaming1975]

@@lautarogomez9711 That would make a good copypasta.

[@DAN-DUBE]

How can the richest company in Japan be so good at making and advertising games but so bad at EVERYTHING ELSE

[@hi-i-am-atan]

fourth word

[@deanxile]

"oh you like our game and want to share your experience with others? fook you give me half of your revenue"

[@rotomfan63]

As i always say "Nintendo can make some great games and alright merch and do nothing else greatly or even alrightly"

[@jumpupsupbarhorn]

Are they good at advertising? I'd say it's average at best lol

[@FlutterSwag]

Lol their advertising is medicore at best, their games are hit or miss, the only thing they have is their IP's If they didnt have a nostalgia overload i dont think theyd be profitable

[@tgr3423]

A friend put it best: "Absolute most forward backward company of all time"

[@lyleabner2475]

That new switch model makes this comment even more true

[@Greenhopper14]

@@lyleabner2475 Addin an OLED screen instead of improvin the hardware so i can actually play games without my switch blowin up is a great idea, wym?

[@tsurbwobniar20]

Last company to use cd's for games but somehow the first company to use joy sticks

[@rinnnnnnnnnnrin]

@@Greenhopper14 bro i deadass do not understand them, are they not aware of the many issues the hardware has? like the damn thing heats up so damn fast ffs

[@blushingralseiuwu2222]

Ikr, 8 man smash is just unplayable on Switch!

[@Maxler5795]

Its still funny and horrifying how nintendo doesnt understand that around 90% of the fans would stop listening to the music on youtube if they plopped it on spotify.

[@WackoMcGoose]

And the remaining 10% of us that prefer local files (and/or don't want to bother making a throwaway FB account to "authorize" a spotify account with) are still gonna find a way to get those music files. Sonic said it best in _Colors..._ "No copyright law in the universe is gonna stop me!"

[@Cametek.CamelliaOfficial]

As a Japanese composer, who does cooperate with some game companies sometimes, and does love Nintendo and their music, it's always heartbreaking to hear the cry and the scream from fans outside of Japan. Even though I've been buying their CDs as physical copies of their official soundtracks, it can't be avoided to feel if we had them on KZbin or Spotify. Siivagunner was one of the channels that provide the way to enjoy the music that we love, but as you know it's gone, due to their claim... One thing I might want to point out is, as I understanding the copyright and related law in Japan as a person who have been working with music closely, we don't have fair-use law, and cultural understanding of it among people either - which is sometimes really problematic and I believe it could be the cause of Nintendo's very old-fashioned stance of distribution of their music, although there must be a lot more complicated circumstances. As you and other a lot people pointing out, I really wish one day they change their stance, and at least respect to fans of their music much more broadly...

[@Scornfull]

Unfortunately, it's probably going to be awhile until enough people in Japan decide that the necessity of fair use is important

[@drouseyman]

no actual way the actual like real actual like real camellia like the real actual one commented yeah it is quite disheartening to see how nintendo clings onto its music as if music is their main source of revenue

[@PreciseCape]

Wow I did not expect Camellia to watch a yakko video. Big Fan of your music. Its so sad for Nintendo to keep their music locked away in a vault like disney keeps their media

[@TheMacroShow]

This thumbnail is so cursed, I love it

[@cowhydrodynamics]

Hi Macro

[@h1ghlandvids972]

true

[@yakkocmn]

shoutout to charlie for suggesting i use a cursed mario 64 face

[@wherediditgo5140]

slimicle 😳

[@loganboss3812]

Hey macro, hey yakko

[@welcometowallys8158]

Copyright Law in general is hell hole Patents last 20 years and copyright last 100+ years, thanks Disney

I really wish that got reverted to, say, 10 years at most.

[@E4439Qv5]

@Simple Weirdo they not only pulled the ladder up behind them, they took an ax to it.

[@ewanstewart2001]

Gotta love how copyright law lasts just long enough to make sure the original artist dies, ensuring whatever company they sold the work to will always own it.

[@gavinthecrafter]

It should be the other way around, patents are way more valuable than copyright and they should last way longer. Copyright on the other hand should last 50 years at most

[@coolterra8491]

Yup gotta keep your properties man. I'd know I played monopoly before pretty much an expert.

[@realkingofantarctica]

Nintendo makes the most iconic and timeless music of any videogame company. The fact that they're not capitalising on that and would rather lose money, is disheartening.

[@lautarogomez9711]

Because Nintendo is a example of how bad a company can be when you grow up. When we are kids We think of good things. But when we grow up, we finally see their dark side, accept it man. Not all good things last forever. Nintendo will fall, as well other companies. And who's to blame?. Humanity itself, we humans doomed ourselves.

[@CarloNassar]

@@lautarogomez9711 I'd rather they not fall and fix what *would* make them fall. Also, this thing about seeing how bad a company can be when they're older is just nonsense. Anyone can know about this kind of stuff at any age.

[@iantaakalla8180]

How many companies do that?

[@CarloNassar]

@@iantaakalla8180 Not many of them, actually.

[@lautarogomez9711]

@@iantaakalla8180 trust me. ALMOST ALL OF THE COMPANIES OF THE WORLD DO THAT!!.

[@Darksencevious]

Nintendo is acting like they're gonna go bankrupt if someone uses their music

[@cia1985]

Oh you used our music even while we dont lose and you dont gain anything? Here have 13 fines, a lawsuit, 99 years in jail and lets delete that music.

[@Therealtintedread69]

@@cia1985 Basically if you want our music.Don't

[@Tame.__.]

"Why Nintendo Hates Thier Music (and you)" *Me breaking down crying after I've been a fan of Nintendo for years*

[@LilfoxTheHybridHylian5967]

I stopped kissing their asses long ago. Just love the games tho

[@ovened-ondiscord]

thier

[@SaviTheGamer]

Everyone: Tries to listen to a Nintendo song Nintendo: *you weren't supposed to do that*

[@Majora_2010]

How does this comment have 1000 likes yet I'm the only person who has replied to it

[@WednesdayMan]

Only can do that in 3D all stars or smash bros… just in game with Nintendo games

[@lucakoddsy3000]

@@Majora_2010 hi

[@tuomasgaming4210]

@@Majora_2010 hi

[@Markiplier2]

@@WednesdayMan And even then, they don't give you all the songs. Want to listen to Mario Galaxy music? Well, I hope you like Gusty Garden galaxy, because that's one of the few songs they offer from that (phenomenal) soundtrack!

[@Juli_is_Online]

Everybody who has ever listened to Nintendo Music on KZbin knows the Pain of the Day the Channel BrawlBrstMs3 X was completely deleted :( Man I miss the days of that channel...

[@ronaldvexdian2182]

I agree, still sad that he’s gone

[@crab5471]

He started a New one With the same name, you should check it, its not as glorious as it was in the past sadly, but i Hope it will go well this time.

[@crab5471]

@Up an๔ Comίng guys... You know he's not dead right ? He is alive and he keep uploading.

[@TomatoSus]

I think about it everyday

[@Sidtheriser07]

That was one source for all nintendo music. I loved the channel.

[@gameOver-he4pr]

I didn't truly realize the fact that Nintendo doesn't have any official music sources for their games until now I've been looking up BotW, Arms, Splatoon, and Smash Ultimate, Monster Hunter Rise music for YEARS and it never dawned on me that I was always listening to them on some random guys channel instead of Nintendo Official I just got so used to it and that sucks

[@TheSmashPlaya]

Moinhun RIse is capcom though and the entire OST is on spotify my dude but I feel you. I wanna listen some of the bangers in the Pokemon OST library when Im not on youtube.

[@phoenixflamegames1]

@@TheSmashPlaya I at least know that the battle tower music from sword and shield is on SoundCloud.

[@lebro4401]

MonHun ost is available in spotify. Albeit the older monhun ost aren't translated to English.

[@Kairyuasahi]

atlus has released persona soundtrack on Spotify. While Nintendo:

[@nyahnyahson523]

@@TheSmashPlaya Pokemon music actually does get official releases, but not on Spotify.

[@Jkeb19]

This really highlights my main issue with Nintendo. Whether it be playing old games or listening to soundtracks, Nintendo consistently go after the best ways to do those things, whilst also not providing many official ways to do them.

[@FlowKom]

"if you like music you should buy game" "metroid prime is not on the eshop tho" "that sounds like a you-problem"

[@andresacosta7885]

Nintendo: You have to understand, we don’t want anyone to listen to our music unofficially. Fans: Ok, can you make an official way? Nintendo: No

[@sebshifter]

And its the exact same shit with their retro games. Empty ass Nintendo online library, no GameCube or N64 titles, and Mario 3d collection now unavailable to purchase. Good job guys !

[@andresacosta7885]

@@sebshifter Yeah. Why did they mess with the Virtual Console? That system was perfect

[@Markiplier2]

@@andresacosta7885 Even back then, though, there were only a few games per month. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGSYmmh3i9-jqck

[@ohtorikanae]

@@sebshifter Thracia 776 eng translation for SNES Nintendo Online library when

[@catalyst539]

at least kirby has a sound test where you can listen to the ost

[@ferintown6628]

This is another example of Nintendo literally sitting on free money

[@codyzuvich1712]

*youtuber not monetizing some Nintendo music uploads* Nintendo: "STOP TAKING OUT WELL EARNED MONEY"

[@IcefangGD]

greedy ahh company

[@_armoricat_]

Nintendo : I'm gonna copyright claim anyone who distributes our music Fans : So you're gonna give us an official way to listen to it, right ? Nintendo : ...

[@InsanePigeon]

Yeah, there's an official way to listen to it, play the games. /s

[@elfabii9817]

@@InsanePigeon XD

[@codyzuvich1712]

*Fan uploads a piece of music* Nintendo and their copyrighting: "is for me?"

[@MoonwalkerWorshiper]

Somewhere this music has been released by Nintendo or it wouldn't be possible to access the audio files.

[@stijngryp2589]

@@MoonwalkerWorshiper i never thought about that before but most Nintendo games have a place where you can just record the music whithout sound effects coming in the way anyway

[@jack.h99]

It's insane how Nintendo makes developing timeless masterpieces look easy, but can't seem to do the basics we could expect from even the most mediocre studios

[@pyrusvincent1029]

Here again today, because, well... Uh. Yeah. 3500 unique copyright blocks on Gilvasunner over the course of 3 days. God fucking damn... How could Nintendo be so tone deaf?

[@connorbeith3232]

What’s even weirder is that they sometimes took down music that wasn’t even owned by them, like Mario RPG and Banjo. With the Mario RPG case, people used it as evidence for Geno potentially coming to Smash, but only got in as a Mii Fighter and didn’t even include a song, unlike Sans for example, which makes those takedowns even weirder.

[@kawcco]

They published both examples you gave, so they might actually own the copyrights to those songs. Of course, it's kinda shaky with Banjo seeing how now Microsoft now owns Rare.

[@Kono_Dio-Da]

@@kawcco Mario RPG, maybe, but definitely not Banjo since, like you said, Microsoft owns Rare. The original Banjo games even got a Xbox 360 re-release.

[@beatinondrums]

@@Kono_Dio-Da I tried that re-release, it crashed shortly after I got to Mumbo's Hut.

[@connorbeith3232]

@Jadon O'Neal I think they did take down a Megalovania remix with the Smash logo slapped on it prior to Sans' mii fighter reveal.

[@zkme2734]

@Jadon O'Neal I was thinking the same thing lmao my only hope is that our boi toby is not the type of person that would allow that

[@jacksonjabba]

This just makes me really sad. There’s nothing more disheartening than something you love so much managed by such a terrible corporation

[@lautarogomez9711]

That because that's how corpo dicatorship works.

[@Dumpster_Fire_246]

like KZbin and Google

[@mobius273]

Sorry buddy but that's all corporations

[@blackout4328]

Cry about it

[@unknowngod8221]

@@mobius273 maybe we should hurry becoming a post scarcity society

[@lgro00]

Hey dude, be careful not to have too much fun, Nintendo is onto you.

[@blackout4328]

Cry about it

[@MLBlue30]

@@blackout4328 Get fucked.

[@trentmoore6947]

@@blackout4328 is this the most genius response you can come up with?

[@lukedetering4490]

The irony here is that when corporations crack down on copyright and provide little official ways to access their music, they unintentionally create a bigger pirating problem than if they just released them in an easily accessible manner.

[@SuperLando]

After the news of GilvaSunner shutting down I came straight here. RIP to my playlists…

[@dragonITH-nk3yk]

It confuses the shit out of me why Nintendo still doesn't realize how much they're hurting themselves with their policies. Releasing soundtracks in physical or digital capicities does only good for them, it would be literally free revenue, and yet they do nothing with it. But honestly, knowing Nintendo, it is hilariously possible that they miss out on revenue just to taunt and spite their fans for no reason other than their hypothetical enjoyment

[@naethavenir9422]

And even if there is some weird bs that would cost them in selling digital soundtracks, so what? They will still make the money back anyway so what are they DOING??!

[@blackout4328]

Cry about it

[@dragonITH-nk3yk]

@@blackout4328 Okay?

[@Whiteythereaper]

It's because they want to avoid the chance of legal disputes over ownership and credits. Japanese companies despise Lawsuits with a passion and prefer to avoid chancing any

[@uglybad4]

@@Whiteythereaper wouldn't it be common sense for _most_ companies to despise lawsuits, Japanese or not?

[@ReBlinx]

I remembered that there was a special "25 Anniversary Orchestra" CD included with Skyward Sword. And I just looked how many songs are on there. There are 8 songs. Well, they are played by an orchestra, so that's pretty cool I guess.

[@hymncat9456]

I think the lower track number is fair since all the songs were all new orchestral arrangements

[@The_Blazelighter]

The CD was actually pretty good. Fully orchestrated medleys that had fairly decent lengths, along with some amazing singles like Gerudo Valley and Fairy's fountain. Shame that you can't get your hands on any of the other anniversary orchestrations, since they are straight fire (seriously, check them out, they are so good. Especially the 30th anniversary. It includes the milk bar from MM, what more do I need to say? I'll say it anyway, since I can't stop gushing about it. It has an epic boss medley, an amazing short melody medley, and a beautiful medley which includes my favorite tracks from Link's Awakening. If you are reading this, please give it a listen)

[@ChristopherMoom]

Whenever Nintendo releases phenomenal gaming music, they take a few steps forward, but then proceed to immediately go back a mile, dig underground, and bury themselves in the Earth for god knows how long so that they can drown out the complaints of fans who just want to play 3 seconds worth of Nintendo music Also, this is only semi-related, but EarthBound music (and content sometimes) is also getting harder to listen to because Sony is going nuts with copyright and that's really unfortunate

[@yakkocmn]

that's funny because the Mother series are the only Nintendo soundtracks officially available on vinyl

[@ProAtBeingANoob]

oh hey its christopher moon i see you on youtube comments a lot

[@jerricaleonard2123]

Except EarthBound wasn't a Sony game in the first place. (I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was just Nintendo claiming it in disguise.)

[@DavidLuis198]

@@jerricaleonard2123 it seems that Sony Music released the official Earthbound soundtracks on CD so they have rights to claiming the music. Is Sony Music, the record label, not Sony the technology company

[@moosesues8887]

Bruh get a ps5 then

[@gregschratz4648]

the other thing that drives me insane is certain IP's will get special concerts, etc. and it is RIDICULOUSLY hard to find their recordings online unless you're a die hard fan that knows that they exist. Splatoon had a whole in person concert series, Pokemon had Symphonic Evolutions (or smthn).

[@timmyowner1437]

I usually don’t log into KZbin, but I had to comment that this video was done very well. It’s so horrible to see my favorite playlists taken down:(

[@joaopedroboechat1253]

I cried when Persona 3 to 5 OSTs were uploaded to Spotify early this year, just wish Nintendo would do the same

[@TokoSauce]

:/ persona 2 was there too

[@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime]

Does the P5 music include the extra P5R tracks?

[@tgaming173]

@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Hahahaaah....... NOPE (as well as strikers) tis a sad day

[@Kono_Dio-Da]

@@tgaming173 Atlas will probably get around to it, they usually take a while to do it since they also release these tracks digitally with premium editions of the game

[@TheM8Y87]

There is nothing wrong with playing Persona songs in the car when they slap so hard

[@lonelywolf5659]

me playing sonic Mania maniac madness

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

Isn't Persona a Sega franchise?

[@arsenesoir]

@@pvzmariosonica8fan Persona was made by Atlus but persona 5 is also published by sega so kinda?

[@BarrenAcc]

Nintendo copyrights what segan't

[@maybemablemaples2144]

I wish I could delete this comment.

[@BarrenAcc]

@@maybemablemaples2144 imagine being able to

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@maybemablemaples2144 Is he wrong?

[@JetWolfEX]

No one remembers the shining force purge anymore I guess

[@Bacony_Cakes]

Sega: **hires fans** Nintendo: Do you want to explode?

[@Wahmageddon]

Honestly at this point, Indie game developers are going to take over the gaming industry. And that's a good thing.

[@sharkshrek4154]

It's like nintendo expects you to just be bringing your nintendo switch in smash bros to listen to music with headphones wherever you go, if you want to listen to their music.

[@bloopahVIII]

300 dollar ipod

[@sharkshrek4154]

@@bloopahVIII ya pretty much also you have to play through the game for a long time to get all of the songs since there are tons that are locked behind dlc and have to be unlocked via challenges, world of light, etc, so you have to pay more money like some are premium

[@azurehaiku]

having the mario galaxy OSTs on vinyl would fill me with life . i need that game's music in my every day life in a special form

[@fanges147]

I wonder how Nintendo would proceed if their original files were lost, like in an earthquake or tsunami or even a simple file corruption.

[@MrLuigiBean1]

They may not even care, seeing how they barely bat an eye when considering their past titles and music.

[@RabidLeroy]

Either starting over or… *gasp* going search warrants for others guarding backups…

[@dumbsterdives]

they dont care if they lose it, as long as no one else has it

[@stijngryp2589]

you expect them to archive absolutly everything they make? given the state of Nintendo servers right now, do you expect a lot of storage to be on there?

[@mobius273]

The same thing that happened in the universal fire. They'd just shrug their shoulders and think of it as the price they (in reality: consumers) have to pay.

[@dutssz]

I honestly believe that nintendo doesn't even see videogames as artwork, from their stance in indie games, fan art and this

[@stijngryp2589]

bro they have indie directs and where the first one to do so if you think Nintendo doesn't give a shit then there shouldn't be a single AAA company that you agree with

[@ToonNoah]

"out of touch" is the best way to describe modern Nintendo

[@Antonio-is2cn]

"You could keep it all to yourself but creations are meant to be shared aren't they?"

[@Juli_is_Online]

It's like this video was handcrafted for me. Nintendo has literally made some of my favourite instrumental music to date, be that Mario Galaxy, the Mario & Luigi Games, Pokemon, the Donkey Kong Country series, etc. yet everytime I wanna listen to it, I have to pray that my playlists havent been purged once again and I have no way to listen to em because the soundtracks are nowhere to be found on streaming or the like. Not enough people talk about this issue or seem to care, so thx a lot for bringing some attention to it!

[@ThePlasmicAlchemist]

Not enough commentors talk about this, my god. I basically never check my music playlists, anymore, because I know I'm just gonna be met with a graveyard of deleted masterpieces, and uncontrollable grief and rage will just boil over me.

[@cia1985]

Download the music and put it in a usb.

[@Gorb789]

Nintendo: don't use our music we will sue anyone who use our stuff without permission. Also nintendo: a mobile game with pokemon assets? Don't see it

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

*laughs in Lep's World, which **_clearly_** uses Mario assets and sound effects*

[@infamousdword3198]

Nintendo: Makes a song. Also Nintendo: *And I took that personally.*

[@MCAlexisYT]

so true 🤦‍♂️

[@audiovideo6460]

I remember about two weeks ago, a Let's Player's (Chuggaaconroy) Earthbound let's play started getting taken down, due to the ost, despite having legit permission from Nintendo to allow it in his content. The issue was because Sony released a cd full of covers over 2 decades ago and their copyright system detected it. I know it's not too relevant to the topic of the video, but I just wanted to point that out.

[@funkyxii8496]

now that gilvasunner is gone this video is more relavent then ever

[@lyleabner2475]

I would happily and I mean HAPPILY trade those "would you rather" weird buzzfeed Nintendo videos on the channel for music streams or just music playlists in general

[@jay-yg2nh]

yeah, nothing against kit & krysta, but the nintendo minute videos are consistently super lame and i think everyone would be happier with an official way to listen to nintendo music instead

[@AnonymousInternetUserLaine]

Nintendo: Aggressively Takes down any and all music licensed by them GilvaSunner: "How about no"

[@carnage0685]

What do you mean? That's exactly what they did. It was quite a while ago, so you can be forgiven for not remembering it.

[@avocadeous]

@@carnage0685 wasn’t that SilvaGunner tho?

[@deadcactus]

@@avocadeous no thats the shitposter; look up (or i might switch them up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

[@carnage0685]

@@avocadeous Yeah, it was. They deleted the account, then he made the GilvaSunner account. Or, at least, SOMEONE made the GilvaSunner account, idk if it was the same guy.

[@andersbell2046]

@@carnage0685 Fun fact SiIvagunner and Gilvasunner is a group of multiple people. That's how they're able to make all of these rips/remixes so fast. It's the same group, but I don't know if you can call it the same guy.

[@matthewnegrete149]

*Posts a Nintendo Playthrough* Nintendo: You're stealing our revenue!

[@stijngryp2589]

as far as i know Nintendo has NEVER taken down a lets play Super Mario Maker (Wii u) was insanely populair on youtube when it was new and Nintendo never took a video down and that was during the partner program age

[@esmajin8185]

Thank you for putting Yoshi's island clips in your video, this is one of my first video game and brings me so much nostalgia each time I see these sprites! This game is a good introduction to gipsy jazz music (I'm thinking athletic theme) and it's a shame Nintendo doesn't want us to listen to it. I mean, Koji Kondo (along with Uematsu, Kikuta, Hisahishi and many others) is a master composer, everyone shoud be able to listen to his music

[@TuxxyScout]

Bro trying to summon dead Chunky Kong back from the grave 12:00

[@WiiSportsLesbianism]

They could make a whole event out of releasing literally everything on Spotify, and it would get them extra revenue from hundreds (if not thousands) of songs, as well as greatly improve their public image.

[@jakubkotowicz638]

"I bet you can hear this one" Listen boyo I am as much a Sonic Fanboy as you are so if i wasn't hearing City escape there , that would be a disgrace

[@LoraLoibu]

I'm not _that_ into sonic but god dammit i heard it too ROLLIN' AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND, GOT PLACES TO GOTTA FOLLOW MY RAINBOW-

[@RenAkakaze]

Nintendo: *actively seeks and destroys any form of content that uses their music for more than 2 seconds* Also Nintendo 2 seconds later: What’s your favorite piece of music from the Legend of Zelda series?

[@HaileyGacha]

Now I'm starting to think Nintendo's filled with pricks

[@andymcclurg9916]

It was a ploy for people to deliver youtube videos for Nintendo to abolish

[@Shadowsoul2701]

Nintendo: We will not give access to this game, its music, or anything related to it. Fans: *Make a rom of the game and upload the songs to youtube* Nintendo: *Cease.*

[@jax8325]

The fact that this video ends with one of the best level bgms from one of the best soundtracks out of just about any sonic game and we know SEGA is probably perfectly fine with it despite actually selling physical versions of it themselves is just a perfect way to prove this video's whole point.

[@MartinPurathur]

Tf2's community is literally too intense to die. It's partly due to the workshop, but it's crazy how far they go

[@Juli_is_Online]

"Good news Boys! We are not dying! We are going to live forever!"

[@CoolGuyMcgeez]

I agree but how does this relate to Nintendo?

[@mr80s81]

@@CoolGuyMcgeez valve encourages, and promotes modding of their games by fans, half of their catalogue of games originally started out as mods, counter strike and team fortress being the most notable examples.

[@MartinPurathur]

@@CoolGuyMcgeez Ehh, it was mentioned somewhere close to the intro in this video

[@MartinPurathur]

2:08

[@Sk8thud]

I like Nintendo games, just by god Nintendo the company is horrible, the fact that they still don't allow for refunds on their online store in 2021 is terrible.

[@joshnunya324]

Isn't that illegal or is it okay because they're overseas?

[@Sk8thud]

@@nxctem i have a similar story with buying Divinity Original Sin 2 for the switc. I spent $50 for playing local coop and then found out you needed a subscription to play coop.

[@naethavenir9422]

Right?? Not all games have a demo option to try out, and then I ended up spending 4 dollars on Overcooked 1 when no one else besides me in my family would play with me, it’s frustrating that it’s not like Steam’s service

[@stijngryp2589]

@@nxctem but those are 2 different versions (switch is bedrock and mobile is pocket edition) doesn't Mojang state in multiple places that you can't do cros play like that

[@nxctem]

@@stijngryp2589 Out sister has a switch as well, so our plan was if multiplayer wouldn’t work between a phone and switch, we’d use hers. Its on us for not doing enough research, but buying Minecraft on the switch was still a waste a because online was still needed for local multiplayer from what i remembered. I find it stupid that online is needed for local play in Minecraft since Animal Crossing has a similar feature and their local play doesn’t require online.

[@nuyxo4849]

It sucks a lot. I’m an editor for hire and it sucks having to do weird pitch-shifting to avoid a claim. It often just sounds wrong. It’s even worse when it doesn’t work and the video still gets claimed..

[@bigfreerf]

i mean, you can just really lower the audio too, but my favourite method is bitcrushing. kinda feels stylistic.

[@moosesues8887]

Then don’t play the music fuck them

[@magostadepaodequeijo6325]

I almost cried when a song from fire emblem echoed was taken down. The comments were filled with emotional reports of their experience playing the game and how the ending affected them. Now they are all gone. The soundtrack is still on KZbin through other uploads, but those comments are gone.

[@dacobdacob7977]

you should see the copyright laws in australia, mfs put hollow knight menu music in the block

[@MooGoesCow]

Listening to Kaine's theme while crying under my desk is the only thing keeping me going

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

Nier music is something else. The soundtrack helped make Automata arguably my favorite game of all time.

[@blockyvids2]

Moral of the Story: everything except the actual corporate side of Nintendo is great.

[@MakaiJah]

UGH , ZELDA MUSIC HITS SO DIFFERENT

[@CoolGuyMcgeez]

When in the video game specifically and nowhere else This comment was made by: Nintendo

[@RobotGuy405]

This was an amazing take on the subject. I love how you were able to stay relatively calm throughout while also not acting like Nintendo is literal satan like so many other videos I've seen. This also kind of hit close to home as I actually just recently created my own Nintendo music channel, let's see how long it lasts lol. I really hope Nintendo offers official ways to listen to this music sooner rather than later.

[@copperymarrow1583]

5:16 I thought for sure I was about to get rick rolled.

[@memerio1458]

This video is one of, if not the, most well-done critiques of Nintendo.

[@thatonerandomguy3618]

HAL Laboratory has been pretty good with their music recently. Kirby Planet Robobot’s soundtrack got a physical release in Japan as well as being put up on Spotify, ITunes, Apple Music, Google Play, and Amazon. So did the 25th Anniversary Orchestra Concert and the Kirby Cafe music. And the Kirby Star Allies soundtrack got a pretty big physical release in Japan. It’s still not as great as how indie games have been handling their osts but it’s better than nothing.

[@edwheezer6231]

As someone who adores listening to music from Super Mario Galaxy, Animal Crossing, and The Legend of Zelda all day long...I'm very familiar with the feeling of going to my KZbin playlist and finding 20+ songs suddenly missing. The moment feels like a punch in the gut, realizing the song I wrote essays to is just gone, without any hope of returning. Or the song that cheered me up and made me feel like I could do anything got snatched away. I could provide practically infinite examples, but you get the idea. And I know it's easy to just look up the song and find a few more extensions by other creators, but it's exhausting to look for the same song three times in the same month. I'm tired of having to go out of my way to listen to music. What hurts even more is that the comments of these music videos is full of people coming together and collectively appreciating the music and the game it came from. All these people vowing to dust off their old Wii and play these games again, inspired by the music. Nintendo's all about bringing communities together when it uses Nintendo Switch Online - *hmmmmm* - but strangely cannot tolerate such a harmless group of people enjoying something that makes their games special. Why, Nintendo. Just why. Thank you for reading my essay! Have a virtual cookie!🍪 Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to listen to a Sonic soundtrack now. :)

[@NoiseDay]

Google "KZbin to mp3" and you can download the video for free before it's gone

[@LilfoxTheHybridHylian5967]

Lol Zelderr music slaps hard

[@iara0]

Nintendo will never change or improve. Because, as long as it has people like you who still 'love them and their games', they do not need to. Why change when your fandom is as fervent as it will ever be? Also, in my humble opinion, you shouldn't let media define who you are. You are more than the products you consume. We are all individuals.

[@spsaofficalchannel]

Guess what? Sega is so lenient with fan use of sonic content that ZERO Sonic music is registered in KZbin’s auto copyright detection system!

[@Divisionlo]

Y'all are overthinking it. Nintendo's a creative company, right? Well making their music available may be smart, but that means it isn't creative. The most creative choice for them is to lock away all of their music and retro games and provide minimal ways to ever access them, because no one would expect them to do that. Checkmate, atheists.

[@slasher4050]

reading this made my brain feel smooshy

[@maybemablemaples2144]

Thank you. You're so brave 😔

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

*They had us in the first half, not gonna lie*

[@hijacked6663]

I literally got an ad saying:"are you tired of copyright claims on your videos?"

[@Dom0915]

Me 2 bro

[@SonicHaXD]

Me and the boys listening to Slide at 4AM contemplating on life XD

[@UNowen255]

Haha, verified youtube channel comment with 7 likes

[@protonicprotogen6304]

Nice pfp bro

[@Keychan64]

Who?

[@tiktok-mc2nq]

Nintendo took down super metroid ost of gilvasunner WHY

[@josephn1000]

The only thing I would agree with Nintendo on is having a problem with youtubers feeling they have the right just to include any piece of music in their videos. It takes so much hard work/money to compose, perform and record the music, a hell of a lot more than it takes to make the average KZbin video. A lot of the time you hear video game music in videos that have nothing to do with that particular video game. KZbinrs always make such a big fuss when people take their videos and don’t credit them but they have no problem with taking music to enhance their videos without consent.

[@supertop3459]

“You ever meet a guy that’s a little too into videogame music” No, and probably never will here 😔

[@fizzlewick]

damn

[@lautarogomez9711]

That's the sad reality of this world. Never trust anyone.

[@kombuchas4684]

Huh? Why not?

[@lautarogomez9711]

@@kombuchas4684 cause the more people you trust. The more chances you will get betrayed by them. Divide who's your enemy from friend and you will find the difference

[@supertop3459]

At least in my country is really hard to find people into videogames, and even harder someone into videogame music

[@holzman00]

I’ve been introduced to so many game franchises over the years thanks to their soundtracks. And I know I’m not the only one. This is yet another example of Nintendo’s completely backwards practices. If they were smart, they’d upload their soundtracks to Spotify and KZbin and rake in millions and millions of plays.

[@eclecticspaghetti]

Three uploads in a month? Did Yakko’s alternate self escape his universe again?

[@lottaspaghetti]

i think they're tag teaming, who knew the secret to productivity is befriending your evil doppelganger? ah shit. that's persona in a nutshell isn't it.

[@outtaideas849]

Yakko convinced Warner Bros. To give the tower Wi-Fi

[@oofy404]

This video reminded me of a once existing video that was titled in Japanese, was hard to search for, and was a random Donkey Kong country song. I found it randomly one day, but when I did, there were 91 million before me who found it, and decided it was an internet checkpoint. It was beautiful, seeing how thousands of thousands of people like me, were struggling, but even so, were recording their journey and powering through, or even giving motivation to others. Then in 2022, about march to may, the video was removed from Nintendo, after 91 million people had hit the checkpoint, and nearly 1/5 of which recorded their progress. It was heart breaking, and something I’ll never forget.

[@JustChllin]

Its so dumb that they copyright claim every soundtrack and then don’t release the soundtrack themselves. Like what the actual fuck

[@DragoniteOfRed]

I think the contrast is really heavy when you compare it to some of the indie games that go the exact opposite route like Touhou or Undertale. Theres no way those two series would be as popular as they are now without the creaters going "Do whatever you want with it" to its music and art.

[@yunogasai1338]

I just bought seven Touhou Doujin cds from Alstroemeria records, syrufit, esquaria, and adamkadmon. My love for Touhou continues to survive through the music. If I could buy soundtracks for other games it would be great!

[@Frostgnaw]

I don't understand why people love Nintendo so much. Pokemon is the exact same game each time + more handholding and Nintendo shits on their fans nonstop. It's like an abusive relationship that the abused doesn't care to fix or get away from. Stop buying their games and see how quickly they start listening.

[@FlutterSwag]

Nostalgia and their IP's Nintendo is run by elders and until they die or leave the company they japanese culture is to just accept the bland norm

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

That's one franchise

[@Frostgnaw]

@@FlutterSwag I figured as much. They are hirting themselves more than they think. They lose so much possible rrvenue and pretty much force people to pirate or emulate their content. I know they wiped all Pokemon games from emulation sites, which sucks, but they could make so much money if they produced older consoles and games or ported older titles to newer systems. I don't care about zelda, mario, or whatever else they make. Let me buy a genuine Pokemon Emerald and a GBA SP so I can relive my childhood for less than $200...

[@Frostgnaw]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 I didn't mention other titles because I haven't played any, therefore I don't know their flaws. I've heard that people are pissed about zelda ports being sold as full priced games and I've seen how they ignore fans and just make carbon copy mario games that no one asks for. Other than that, I know very little of their main popular titles.

[@FlutterSwag]

@@Frostgnaw mhmm, also the emulation community being hunted causes scalpers to have total control over those gams wince nintendo doesnt work for its customers anymore

[@pedronovaes5993]

Maybe if people actually stopped putting in the effort to talk about their games, like carefully editing gameplays or recreating the soundtrack themselves, they would actually lose money and notice they are outdated.

[@CarloNassar]

I don't think enough people KNOW about these moves. A video like this would need MrBeast levels of views.

[@Matoro2002]

it's such inexcusable behaviour when several of their bigger soundtracks (Splatoon 2 and Fire Emblem Three Houses immediately come to mind) have been released physically in full, but ONLY in japan for a timed collectors release they already compiled the soundtracks, the work is done, just upload them on a streaming service or offer the same physical discs worldwide (I can guarantee they'd sell more copies of their soundtracks if you could just buy the CDs/DVDs individually instead of with a bunch of merch that not everyone cares about)

[@noblehatterviolet]

With GiivaSunner, one of the only ways to listen to these songs in a good state now gone due to Nintendo- I say this video aged pretty well.

[@mlghardcolt9865]

Nintendo wants customers to cry and not listen to their soundtracks

[@Real_Amphy]

Smash Ultimate having over 900 music tracks is the largest collection of nintendo music you can officially purchase so lets thank sakuri again for that.

[@liammcnicholas918]

That’s nice, how many songs has GilvaSunner uploaded?

[@skippyyippy]

The only Nintendo soundtrack available that I have seen is the Xenoblade 2 ost on amazon but it's kinda expensive

[@Majoraspersona]

It's on iTunes, and so is the Torna music

[@theGameBrass]

Thanks a lot for shining light on this serious issue that greatly impacts the video game cover and remix community. Nintendo's stance on licensing forces constraints on musicians' creativity, which is a pity since there are many unlicenseable favorite Nintendo tunes that people would love to see covered more frequently. And we appreciate the Line Them Up! shoutout! In addition to all the musicians, many game composers (including Donkey Kong/Rare series composers David Wise, Robin Beanland, and Grant Kirkhope) joined us and the team to perform on that project. We were scared about the possibility of Line Them Up! receiving a takedown (and still are scared, to be honest), but we did it anyway out of love for the VGM community and Origami King's soundtrack. The fact that so many composers joined us shows that your point about Nintendo's stance on fan projects doing a disservice to the original composers and their music is spot-on.

[@codex5949]

Yakko: You ever meet one of those guys who are a little too into Video Game Music? Me: Of course i know him, hes me.

[@AjarTadpole7202]

I swear nintendo is the only company that can make me go from "Wow this seems like a really awesome product let me find room to put it when I buy it" to "I would never buy something from such a shitty company" in less than 30 seconds

[@devastatheseeker9967]

Dude I swear Nintendo is the worst when it comes to taking shit down. Seriously, why take down rom sites when you aren't going to sell said ROMs? They could literally partner with the people that make stuff like project 64 to sell their old stuff

[@shulkash8799]

It simple, most of the rom sites they take down are pirating the games and making a profit, that is why they take it down. And for why they don’t higher them, to them, they are already untrustworthy.

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@shulkash8799 the games that are producing 0 income for anyone at this point in time, you mean

[@shulkash8799]

@@hi-i-am-atan no, if the service includes nes, snes or switch games that people have to pay in the pirate or rom site, they are, in Nintendo’ s eyes, affecting their revenue. This is not only the switch, but also the Wii U and 3ds eshop games. Along those platform online store are still active, Nintendo can put pirating rom sites to court and shut them down. Edit: It’s just explaining Nintendo’s mentality in going after pirating rom sites. I don’t support neither side in this process.

[@AcroxShadow]

@@shulkash8799 Paid rom sites pretty much don't exist. Also, server costs are likely far higher than any amount of ad revenue any sites might make. Nobody makes a profit from these things.

[@shulkash8799]

@@AcroxShadow You would be surprised how many paid rom site exist. Nintendo killed one recently called romuniverse.

[@rhymeswithmoose228]

Nintendo: I will ban music, and I will be as stupid as possible at it! Not the Fire Emblem Premium Arrange: I see this as an absolute win!

[@CarloNassar]

I'd say they're stupid at it too. They didn't even take down every channel that uploads their music.

[@96wtfomg]

Nintendo is what a control-obsessed person looks like in real life. They even want to have control over how you chose to play your game

[@caldercockatoo2234]

Nintendo: We want money. Fans: Ah, so you'll release your music officially for people to buy. Nintendo: No. Fans: But that will make you money... Nintendo: Yes. Fans: So then why don't you do it then? Nintendo: ... Nintendo: Money.