Why NO ONE Plays: Olimar | Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

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Olimar began Smash Ultimate's timeline as debatably one of the best characters in the game, but following a series of nerfs as well as advancements in the meta, everyone's opinion of him has substantially declined, leading him to be one of the least played characters in the game. In today's episode of Why NO ONE Plays, we'll be discussing: Olimar!
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@HerMajestyVelvet
@HerMajestyVelvet 11 ай бұрын
I secondary Olimar and I can say firsthand that to play Olimar you need a very specific type of brain that can multitask while also playing super defensive and making sure you’re still pressuring
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 11 ай бұрын
Jeez, and I thought maining link took a specific thought process
@HerMajestyVelvet
@HerMajestyVelvet 11 ай бұрын
@@mrhalfsaid1389Link does have that same problem but it’s way less harsh bc Link can default to nair when overwhelmed
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 11 ай бұрын
@@HerMajestyVelvet yeah, and I also find that link is deceptively fast sometimes, and that throws people off
@Nefaliss
@Nefaliss 11 ай бұрын
Dabuz be like :
@mr.gamewatch6165
@mr.gamewatch6165 11 ай бұрын
So it’s not a Dandori issue?
@jaye4521
@jaye4521 11 ай бұрын
"These inconsistencies ultimately lead to many players feeling disillusioned by the character." Sounds like a dandori issue.
@Dr_Tune
@Dr_Tune 11 ай бұрын
As an Olimar main, I wholeheartedly believe that this character is slept on
@spiritbaki108
@spiritbaki108 11 ай бұрын
As a Jigglypuff main, I'm sleeping on Olimar
@reghretti
@reghretti 10 ай бұрын
All I can say is thank god
@TheSunsettingtokillyoul0l
@TheSunsettingtokillyoul0l 10 ай бұрын
​@@spiritbaki108you cant he's too tiny.
@spiritbaki108
@spiritbaki108 10 ай бұрын
@@TheSunsettingtokillyoul0l "You underestimate my micro movements!"
@samuelharrison7834
@samuelharrison7834 7 ай бұрын
@@spiritbaki108 as a Jigglypuff main, I'm considering taking Olimar as my second character
@KryZenGraphics
@KryZenGraphics 11 ай бұрын
This video could not have come at a better time, we’re planning Olimar content on Dabuz’s channel next week
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 11 ай бұрын
The matchup chart? :3
@KaiJie-n8q
@KaiJie-n8q 10 ай бұрын
A lot of people say olimar is lame, when in reality you need to have good knowledge and planning to play as him.
@sO_RoNerY
@sO_RoNerY 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, people do. Just like the Pikmin games.
@tekharjt
@tekharjt 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for talking about Olimar! Just for the sake of absurdity I would like to point out that Olimar actually has 9 different grab ranges instead of 5. the pikmin type, the type of the leader, and the number of pikmin influence his grab range. His grab range is also slightly extended when he is at ledge for reasons other Olimar players and I don't understand at all
@kicksyo2171
@kicksyo2171 10 ай бұрын
I had no idea that Pikmin also affected grabs and aerials. That’s so crazy. Thanks for the video.
@happymonkeyfish
@happymonkeyfish 11 ай бұрын
Haven't watched yet, but thank you so much for continuing to make smash content. I know you made that post saying that this channel didn't feel worth it, but those of us that watch love your videos, you have a very distinct presentation style and I love the ideas you bring in your content
@donkylefernandez4680
@donkylefernandez4680 7 ай бұрын
Against Olimar you adjust yourself based on which Pikmin he might have; if he has yellows he's far away so cross him, purples like to kill, reds like to fight, blues- like to throw? and whites like to be thrown so expect a zone-y playstyle if he has more whites. AS an Olimar player, you have to consider how your opponent will be evading your Pikmin, plan accordingly, and understand the possible mix ups with the options your Pikmin would prefer. Often playing or watching an Olimar play it's "If only I had x Pikmin in that moment" and that's his quit moment. When you feel a loss of agency because you couldn't properly gets your ducks in line. In that regard, he's more of a free-form improvisational character with strong moments that you can capitalize on and once it hits the curse of the Meta, not even Ganondorf, Kazuya, or Dedede would give you an opening. forcing you to fish for a decent Pikmin while Olimar plays the "come here or I'll shoot you" game for 7-and-a-half minutes
@smasher8uhx932
@smasher8uhx932 9 ай бұрын
Has anyone noticed that you have to wait til about 170% to get a kill screen blue up throw. At that point I stare at my opponent.
@drewwinters5165
@drewwinters5165 11 ай бұрын
I used to be an Olimar main in Smash 4, the mechanics for that game helped Olimar alot to make him a turtley-defensive style of character and thrived on it. Now because of Ultimate's faster nature, I dropped him after the first year of play. Every character was so much faster and aggressive but Olimar lacked all of those attributes and felt like the same character he was once before, he felt like a Smash 4 character playing in Ultimate. I still like his mechanics and miss it from time to time but the lack of help he got from game to game made me give up on him which is a shame. At least they fixed trading aerials with other characters, now if they only did that for Smash attacks...
@aidanitsme
@aidanitsme 3 ай бұрын
i’ve recently started playing olimar online and find him really fun… he’s become my highest gsp fighter… i think because he’s so unpopular has led to people not really knowing how to deal with him
@dagoodboy6424
@dagoodboy6424 10 ай бұрын
Whenever i fight olimar he feels like he can easily crumble under pressure. This helped me see y that is.
@JiggySwagner
@JiggySwagner 11 ай бұрын
I play a ton of Olimar so here are my thoughts. Playstyle-wise he is pretty much perfect as a representation of Pikmin. The problem is his lack of identity. His animations lack distinctiveness; not only is visual clarity an issue but his wonderful personality is completely absent in Smash. Players cant connect with a character like that, especially considering his design isnt very cool nor cute in a traditional sense. That combined with the inconsistency in gameplay brought up. In a theoretical redesign I would keep the Pikmin's unique attributes but maybe smooth some of the edges. Id also like for him to still have a full moveset without them, albeit much weaker. (Maybe without Pikmin his forward smash becomes that goofy dropkick from Brawl). Maybe change some attributes to encourage a more aggressive-zoning playstyle, like having enemies with Pikmin latched on take additonal damage from standard attacks, with balance tunings accordingly. Finally, give him his voice and give him silly animations because they are wonderful. Edit: and a UI indicator for current Pikmin order, you could rip this straight from the games
@LocknessDaGoat
@LocknessDaGoat 6 ай бұрын
I feel like Louie would be easier to do personality with.
@carsonrush3352
@carsonrush3352 11 ай бұрын
I think a lot of this complexity could be fixed by letting him choose one color at a time with his down B, like Shulk changing modes. Heck, in the Pikmin game, you could always choose a crowd of one kind if Pikmin according to the encounter you were entering. Why not do it here?
@0oShwavyo0
@0oShwavyo0 11 ай бұрын
Might as well let Sora pick his spells too
@Sergio-wc1wn
@Sergio-wc1wn 11 ай бұрын
That would be too overpowered. Purple pikmin are too strong to be able to be chosen all the time.
@Wildestleaf
@Wildestleaf 10 ай бұрын
And add the other pikmin types. Rock pikmin to break shields, ice pikmin to freeze.
@mythicalrock2486
@mythicalrock2486 5 ай бұрын
the thing is, olimar isn’t a zoner, he’s a glass cannon
@Raggins
@Raggins 11 ай бұрын
I genuinely enjoyed playing Olimar, but his Pikmin extending my opponents hitboxes killed it for me
@GameWatch-xu6sb
@GameWatch-xu6sb 9 ай бұрын
I love playing Olimar, but I’ll be honest… the micromanagement of his Pokémon makes him hard to play. - If you don’t have the optimal Pikmin in your lineup for combos, grabs, kill throws, strength (and power) and damage output, you’re gonna have to create space and switch up your Pikmin, which is of course hindered by Olimar’s slow mobility. Also, the leading Pikmin change after you attack, which means you can lose your most favorable one in various situations. - If you don’t have Pikmin in your lineup at all, you’re completely offenseless, and forward tilt is your main kill option (which is slow), while his other non-Pikmin moves that can deal damage are borderline useless. Thankfully, unlike in Brawl, his recovery is useable without Pikmin. - Worst of all, you have to sacrifice your Pikmin for an excellent recovery in Winged Pikmin, otherwise your recovery will not be so impressive nor cover much distance. All of this means you have to have a very specific brain for multiple tasks while playing defensively and making sure you’re still having the advantage.
@skapenguin
@skapenguin 11 ай бұрын
I love fucking around with Olimar, he's so much fun to play as. But playing him for long periods can be difficult. I know Elite smash isn't much, but I've gotten like 15 characters into elite, Olimar is one I hit a wall with every time
@hathouses
@hathouses 2 ай бұрын
Also, i think olimars pikmin grow slightly stronger as they age and gain flowers
@stevenrs11
@stevenrs11 7 ай бұрын
I love olimar and have mained him since brawl. No other character can play quite the same game as him.
@alanwiseman3235
@alanwiseman3235 11 ай бұрын
Love the myran kibry kid clip. Poor kkr, video on him next?
@jairramirez1595
@jairramirez1595 11 ай бұрын
I don't know but I'm truly grateful that no one plays Olimar
@user-mk9lb3uh1y
@user-mk9lb3uh1y 11 ай бұрын
Fr, if I get bored everytime I play against one in elite smash and they just camp with side B I'm grateful I don't find many olimar players in tournament lol, same with pac-man
@Maxsb0
@Maxsb0 2 ай бұрын
This video made Olimar one of my mains.
@Ketchupkamisama
@Ketchupkamisama 10 ай бұрын
Wasn’t sure where to ask this, but how do you feel about a Why no one plays Zelda? A friend recently picked her up, and on paper she seems really good. 6 frame aerials with tons of base damage and generous hitboxes, up B kills at higher percent. Ledge trapping set play. It feels like lack of speed and disjoints are the main thing holding her back, but that doesn’t stop the fiery cat and wondered what else would contribute
@eanderson9599
@eanderson9599 11 ай бұрын
Bro has run out of characters, Olimar is pretty popular especially in Japan
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 10 ай бұрын
Even in japan he's been statistically less prevalent. Most of the top players that mained Olimar now mostly use him as a secondary. Shuton, obviously, but also Noi and Tsubotsubo. Still have my boy Uame repping, though
@stainlesss00
@stainlesss00 11 ай бұрын
been waiting for dis one. Need dat villager vid soon to.
@pocketpoprocks4577
@pocketpoprocks4577 11 ай бұрын
What I’ve learned from this is that Olimar is the Aphelios of smash bros
@puffii_
@puffii_ 11 ай бұрын
request to make a video on diddy kong
@Arrshufy11k_MJG
@Arrshufy11k_MJG 8 ай бұрын
but.... I love play smash brawl with Olimar :'''( and also in the ultimate
@pbz7572
@pbz7572 8 ай бұрын
Olimar is a better counterpick character than Pika right?
@Pikmaniak
@Pikmaniak 10 ай бұрын
I used to main Olimar back in Brawl, and actually stopped playing him in Smash 4 and Ultimate because of the changes they made to him in the latter games. Brawl Olimar was best Olimar, hands down.
@rainbowspongebob
@rainbowspongebob 11 ай бұрын
He only has two punches
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 11 ай бұрын
3, His tilt is his mega fist item from 2.
@alaricdoe2656
@alaricdoe2656 11 ай бұрын
Very good video. The one thing I have is that Olimar is the only character that looses his attacks due to the opponent(besides Kirby that you mention). The other character is Robin. The opponent can destroy Robin's levin sword. If Robin uses an attack with the levin sword and they are in the start up animation or before the hit box comes out, if they are hit, it counts as if they used their levin swords. You can find yourself losing several levin sword uses because they hit you and you find yourself with only one levin sword use left even though you never used it, whiffed a swing, or tried to threaten with it.
@Nerdieo
@Nerdieo 11 ай бұрын
because they love alph :)
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 ай бұрын
This game is way, WAY too fast-paced for me to plan and strategize Olimar's current, and up&coming pickmen. I straight up do not have the brain speed & reaction speed for it.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 11 ай бұрын
Olimar is personally, within my game, the least played character of the game
@krys3001
@krys3001 11 ай бұрын
Please do Why No one plays Duck Hunt.
@anigodzapex9384
@anigodzapex9384 11 ай бұрын
Short Awnser: A highly Managment Dependent Character with many Unorthodox Tools, without beeing Flashy and having bad Animation Design wich creates an Illusion of all Attacks feeling the same!
@nechocat1234
@nechocat1234 11 ай бұрын
Dandori dependent*
@kingwilldestroy3611
@kingwilldestroy3611 8 ай бұрын
I’m trying to main olimar
@brandylorraine
@brandylorraine 9 ай бұрын
Dandori Issue
@cringewyrm
@cringewyrm 11 ай бұрын
I am the #1 shuton fan. His olimar is really interesting, I love watching it. Shuton plays him so well. No offense dabuz, but shuton plays him way better. Shuton is my goat
@riotron1026
@riotron1026 11 ай бұрын
So essentially the meta has shifted to the more complicated characters falling off due to players being too lazy to adjust to changing properties of the pikmin, even though it requires no changing of inputs and would rather use more braindead characters like cloud (big sword go burr), min min (long arms go burr) ect… Got it.😂 I think the drastic difficulty swing of some of these characters like the two I mentioned ends up fundamentally fostering bad players. Why play with a character that may be more complex but rewarding then you can just pick a character that outside of core fundamentals can allow you to essentially turn your brain off and abuse very easy to spam/hit with attacks and reap the rewards. Like it makes sense but also it limits players capabilities, which will eventually have a more negative impact of the metagame overall. Seems like it’s not even a matter of if at this point but when.
@Alvis44
@Alvis44 11 ай бұрын
Assuming spargo turns his brain off while playing cloud is so funny. Its always great when people who are shit at the game assume they know what’s happening at a top level.
@riotron1026
@riotron1026 11 ай бұрын
@@Alvis44 I knew the Spargo meat riders were coming. This is exactly why I said “beyond having solid fundementals” part. Is Spargo a great player, obviously but to suggest that there isn’t an inherent advantage to using cloud due to his ease of use is kinda silly to me. That’s why the character is so popular
@yaboytony3028
@yaboytony3028 11 ай бұрын
What? No. Complicated characters are very popular because most are very good. The problem begins is when they are too exhausting to play long term, the pros outweigh the cons, or the character just being bad/unreliable. Sure you could play the character who you change the properties of his moves to better fit the situation, but it has to be done preemptively. If you change it and guess wrong, you can lose out on a kill, combo and could even put yourself in disadvantage. Why risk situations like that, when you pick a character who's move may be weaker or less applicable, but never changes and will reliably do the same thing every time? People don't play Olimar because his cons heavily outweigh his pros, even if he is a top tier. Too light, small disjoints, only kinda fast, bad tilts, and most importantly, Unreliable.
@riotron1026
@riotron1026 11 ай бұрын
@@yaboytony3028 Yeah, that’s exactly what I mean by easy to play. Characters that are straightforward, no tight or long combo routes, no complicated or tactical gameplay outside of basic fundamentals, are usually almost all upside minus like a notable flaw or two. Which again, I see why players would gravitate to that, but it still does foster bad players, lazier play compared to other characters due to the lack of extra thought that has to be put into using them and it’s not the players fault. I blame the game devs. In a game like smash where you have easy to use, well rounded characters like cloud, Rob, the Agies, G&W, Min-Min that literally have almost everything if not everything while having simple to use, easy to abuse moves that other characters don’t have access to and thus will struggle more on average is a bad game design choice for a platform fighter like smash.
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 11 ай бұрын
In short... Dandori issue.
@scg4931
@scg4931 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a why no one plays king k rool next please
@thelostghost694
@thelostghost694 8 ай бұрын
Wario next pls
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 11 ай бұрын
Sadly nobody is playing anbody anymore cause Nintendo finally said "FUCK SMASH"......Ik sakurai didnt want smash to be this sweaty of a game, but he never wanted his game to die, sadge
@user-be3qc7re9o
@user-be3qc7re9o 10 ай бұрын
This game is nowhere near dying. Did you blatantly ignore Port Priority 8 that happened recently?
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 10 ай бұрын
@@user-be3qc7re9o when is recently, this was from 2-3 weeks ago
@user-be3qc7re9o
@user-be3qc7re9o 10 ай бұрын
@treasure9342 And that's not recent to you? That's less than a Month ago.
@user-be3qc7re9o
@user-be3qc7re9o 10 ай бұрын
@@Accountthatexists Low Tier City 2023 also happened 2 days ago. I don't know where you get the false idea that this game is dying.
@user-be3qc7re9o
@user-be3qc7re9o 10 ай бұрын
@treasure9342 The Japanese Scene of the game is also very alive and well, unless you're implying that the Japanese don't matter.
@scass1100
@scass1100 11 ай бұрын
Olimar is just boring as hell to play. None of his specials really do anything to help you fight, so all you do is throw pikmin and use really generic attacks. He could really use a redesign.
@OliverChildress
@OliverChildress 6 ай бұрын
I play olimar, im only good at cringe characters, ice climbers, kirby, plant, olimar, villager:(
@hubbleworks7872
@hubbleworks7872 11 ай бұрын
Olimar broken 😭🙏💯💯🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
@psykod_ahs
@psykod_ahs 11 ай бұрын
good video :)
@Godzillalover54
@Godzillalover54 11 ай бұрын
Engagement.
@karnas1mp
@karnas1mp 11 ай бұрын
i dont even touch him in casual matches i feel he is by far the worst smash character design wise even though i respect his series
@pamoon_
@pamoon_ 11 ай бұрын
Before this even started ima bout to say Dabuz gonna get m- nah he wouldn't Two characters he uses no one plays lol
@zegreatpumpkinani9161
@zegreatpumpkinani9161 11 ай бұрын
Cuz all his moves look the same so he's just not very interesting?
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 11 ай бұрын
But his moves are very faithful to Pikmin.
@zegreatpumpkinani9161
@zegreatpumpkinani9161 11 ай бұрын
@orangeslash1667 they could've been a LITTLE more creative. Imagine using the trumpet to move a line of pikmin back and forth, or throwing a Snake C4 type yellow pikmin with a bomb?
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 11 ай бұрын
@@zegreatpumpkinani9161 Snake using C4 makes sense because their small, Pikmin bomb rocks are not. Which makes animation difficult. The appeal of Pikmin is strategy. Should I use this Yellow Pikmin or the White Pikmin?? Or maybe it's safer to not throw them???
@Jellylamps
@Jellylamps 10 ай бұрын
Olimar is one of the few characters that’s both annoying to use and to play against
@alviabtahi5440
@alviabtahi5440 11 ай бұрын
No one plays Olimar cause they like having friends
@AnAveragePurplePikmin
@AnAveragePurplePikmin 3 ай бұрын
I actually main Olimar 🤓👆
@Alph4Falc0
@Alph4Falc0 11 ай бұрын
Because he’s lame, thanks Dabuz
@vapeshrimp5220
@vapeshrimp5220 11 ай бұрын
Because he is boring case closed
@3thhackz531
@3thhackz531 6 ай бұрын
Wh
@iconick3153
@iconick3153 11 ай бұрын
“But he has a very interesting story” Vars says in the intro of the video, let me stop you right there. There is nothing interesting about Olimar! That’s why people don’t play him. He’s the lamest character on the roster and his play style makes most people instantly groan and get turned off from the game. Nobody cares enough to play him consistently because he’s boring to fight and not all that interesting to play when you’ve got a roster like SSBU has
@SineFineInanis
@SineFineInanis 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel like a lot of characters just have a specific "cool" or "uncool" factor that makes people play them
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 11 ай бұрын
DUDE SHUT UP, u nitpick him on ONE THING HE SAID, and turned it into a WHOLE STORY,
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 11 ай бұрын
@@SineFineInanis That's because Olimar isn't meant to be played like a regular fighter, he's meant to represent the feel of the Pikemin series. Micromanaging and being strategic is what Pikmin is about.
@SineFineInanis
@SineFineInanis 11 ай бұрын
@orangeslash1667 And I'm not talking about playstyle, I'm talking about appearance. Olimar strictly looks like he came from a Happy Meal box, and nobody is choosing him for that.
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 11 ай бұрын
@@SineFineInanis If thats the case how did Jiggly Puff became popular in melee despite looking like a Pink Ballon?????
@strawb4983
@strawb4983 11 ай бұрын
Olimar is annoying to fight
@yuanlee2093
@yuanlee2093 11 ай бұрын
Short Answer:Olimar Gameplay is boring
@danielferrieri7434
@danielferrieri7434 11 ай бұрын
I actually played Pikmin 3 deluxe, and it was....fine. Though not great.
@k1baede728
@k1baede728 11 ай бұрын
Because hes boring
@StickyTrap
@StickyTrap 11 ай бұрын
He’s boring. Didn’t watch. Video over
@chaddangersexhaver98
@chaddangersexhaver98 11 ай бұрын
I feel like if we do get another smash game, olimar is going to be changed somehow to correspond with pikmin 4. Either that, or we get another pikmin rep.
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 11 ай бұрын
Really want a new pikmin rep with alien doggo
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 11 ай бұрын
One thing I would change about Olimar: You know how characters post-brawl started getting unique UI when necessary? Give Olimar the same treatment: One large colored pip next to his portrait that matches the active pikmin, and 4 smaller colored pips that represent the pikmin as they'll become available. Just turn them into an empty socket when it's empty and turn it black when the pikmin is unavailable. That'd make it much easier to plan out your combos and identify certain patterns that you can use to combo. Smash is a complicated game, it's easy to lose track of those tiny pikmin when everything is exploding and particles are flying everywhere, so having a place you know you can look to plan your next move would be huge, I think.
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 11 ай бұрын
Man ultimate was the game to DO something like this in.... And sometimes it fell short. Note how we never got a proper hero menu update. Mods that to solve that
@pote2frouifruite81
@pote2frouifruite81 2 ай бұрын
This is something ive complained about ever since smash ultimate came out, Olimar SHOULD have a special hud similar to the Pikmin games so you can see which Pikmin is next in line at any time, cus that arrow thing is laughably small and hard to see in the heat of the action
@TheCounterTeamer
@TheCounterTeamer 11 ай бұрын
I think the problem with Olimar is that his complexity sometimes doesn’t make them harder to play against, only harder to play as.
@3of6mylove
@3of6mylove 10 ай бұрын
And he'll be 100% shut down by the mere existence of a reflecter in his vicinity.
@dabatable
@dabatable 10 ай бұрын
@@3of6myloveyou have never fought a good olimar
@3of6mylove
@3of6mylove 10 ай бұрын
@@dabatable I'm talking top level, equal skill. There are plenty of characters that hard counter olimar when played with equal skill.
@dabatable
@dabatable 10 ай бұрын
@@3of6mylove a reflector is not what invalidates Olimar
@3of6mylove
@3of6mylove 10 ай бұрын
@@dabatable It is one of many things, not the only thing.
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 11 ай бұрын
Olimar's main issue from what i can tell is that his gimmicks make him overly convoluted as a character, because no i don't think having FIVE grab ranges is reasonable for anyone to have to strategise around
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 11 ай бұрын
Even more than that. It also depends on how many are in the line up and how many in the line up are purple xD GLHF
@rodrickgoldberg2324
@rodrickgoldberg2324 10 ай бұрын
The only Pikmin you should be trying to grab with is blue for their enhanced throw power… Maybe white Pikmin if you want to catch some off guard with that extended reach.
@mrhalfsaid1389
@mrhalfsaid1389 10 ай бұрын
@@rodrickgoldberg2324 I know, but the point is a character so incredibly inconsistent that it's frustrating to keep track of the tiny guys the Lil guy throws around
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 10 ай бұрын
Red and Yellow down throws are big combo starters at low percent. Blue is actually a bad throw at low percents because there's too much knock back to get guaranteed follow ups. Its common to even throw blue off the stage when it's not going to KO throw
@rodrickgoldberg2324
@rodrickgoldberg2324 10 ай бұрын
@@metalfish883 I prefer a defensive, keep away style with Olimar. Leaning on spacing and punishes over combos. Even if they don’t kill, Blues give me breathing room to reassess my squad.
@KynG5
@KynG5 11 ай бұрын
A good Olimar _Main_ is going to have to be a terrifyingly intelligent individual. Someone who can think about which pikmin they're using for *every* attack and using DownB accordingly while ALSO keeping a cool head while ALSO focusing on everything the *opponent* is doing as well If/When that Main shows up... things will get interesting for the little spaceman
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 11 ай бұрын
You might be surprised, but most of it turns into second nature so that the player can focus on the crazier parts of smash xD
@Bupboy32
@Bupboy32 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic analysis. He really does suffer from an archetype dilemma, huh? I always thought he should've been a character around area control / trapping, given how the gameplay of the Pikmin games themselves are. Really hoping he gets a major rework next game that allows him to use his Pikmin in more interesting ways. He DEFINITELY needs 4 or 5 Pikmin in his lineup, but I feel his method for acquiring them should be made different from his current frame 1 pluck. I would also love to see an ability to dismiss your lead Pikmin and have it stand still; you could then press the button again to have that Pikmin do a unique attack. Just something, ANYTHING... I love the Pikmin series to death and yet I can't stand watching Olimar in this game. He needs a moveset overhaul... and his actual personality, too. Don't really get why he's portrayed as a bumbling emotionless space dude when there's so, SO much more to him in the actual Pikmin series.
@rottentomatoplays
@rottentomatoplays 10 ай бұрын
Myran did retire about 6 to 8 months ago due to starting a new career and expanding his gaming repertoire. He has said though we would consider coming back for smash 6, but as of now is only playing at a casual level.
@DoMorrMusic
@DoMorrMusic 11 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Olimar has the most top 8’s in majors and supermajors in Ultimate’s history.
@Sickmmaner
@Sickmmaner 11 ай бұрын
I GOTTA see this one, because this character is fucking UNFAIR. Throwing Pikmin at peopls and comboing them as they are biting you up, taking 70 damage in 4 seconds?!
@ReddXYZ
@ReddXYZ 11 ай бұрын
Why no one plays Olimar? No dandori.
@thanieltu3153
@thanieltu3153 11 ай бұрын
That’s a brilliant idea for Steve balancing. If he had to recover farther, he has an option to discard his gold/diamond resources, or whatever he has in hand already crafted. Another thing that would be great is if blocks can only be placed directly above a platform. This would lessen his ladder combos, and offstage block edge guarding
@3of6mylove
@3of6mylove 10 ай бұрын
Nah to balance him, they should nerf him into bottom tier by whatever means necessary, so no one has to look at him again. I would rather watch 10000 min min dittos than a single Steve match.
@LoliPeeSlurper
@LoliPeeSlurper 10 ай бұрын
Nah to balance him, they should buff him into top tier by whatever means necessary, so everyone has to look at him again. I would rather watch 10000 steve dittos than a single Min-min match.
@3of6mylove
@3of6mylove 10 ай бұрын
@@LoliPeeSlurper Your opinion is in the minority, and thus irrelevant.
@LoliPeeSlurper
@LoliPeeSlurper 10 ай бұрын
@@3of6mylove Your opinion is in the minority, and thus irrelevant.
@robdillenger4763
@robdillenger4763 11 ай бұрын
You say Olimar has quintuple the moves because all his relevant attacks use Pikmin- but they can ALSO be leaf, bud, or flower. These (at least) change his attack damage/knockback. I think it changes range/speed of some moves, too. So he has 15x attack variations.
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 11 ай бұрын
The leaf/bud/flower doesn't actually affect damage. Just tested it and a fully charged red f-smash does 29.2 damage at all stages. I think it might have affected pikmin in previous games (or perhaps it was increased health?) but not in ultimate
@gaslit7442
@gaslit7442 10 ай бұрын
​@@metalfish883If I remember correctly, the flower has been purely cosmetic since the beginning, with the misconception/myth that it affects gameplay being around since the Brawl days. Can't blame people, it sure looks like it'd do something, but nah.
@jonathansolorzano1981
@jonathansolorzano1981 Ай бұрын
Flowers actually represent how fast a Pikmin is at running around, that's it, they have no effect on damage, knockback or range whatsoever.
@levilanzl2389
@levilanzl2389 10 ай бұрын
Yep, that all sounds about right. Me personally, I'm not that good at predicting what pikmin comes next all the time so I treat it like a set of cards. I pluck my pikmin, see what I have, and go from there. The only problem is that if you have a blue your opponent knows what to watch out for when fighting. I definitely agree that Olimar's straightforward nature makes it hard to be creative.
@puffii_
@puffii_ 11 ай бұрын
And thank god no one does.
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love back throwing with blues while tossing whites and spiking with yellows big hit boxs. And taking out Krools never felt better. And I think Blue Yellow Blue is my favorite overall lineup. But it's hard to get.
@metalfish883
@metalfish883 11 ай бұрын
KO'ing with the blue forward through at ledge is also super satisfying. Even more so than the up-throw imo.
@TheReZisTLust
@TheReZisTLust 10 ай бұрын
​@@metalfish883I cant remember the last I forward threw a blue lol the 13% backthrow dmg is super solid when juggling grabs and his spinny neutrals and down tilt. I'll definitely hop on soon and check out the fthrows tho
@sO_RoNerY
@sO_RoNerY 3 ай бұрын
In the end you can do pretty well with any Pikmin next to attack. Don’t over think it. If you care about damage like most people do in video games that involve damage of said weapon or Pikmin, Whistle through the colours until red, purple or yellow are next. 11:56 of you think that, the Fire Emblem characters are straightforward characters. This kid knows nothing in the end. He thinks every character should win against other characters at a 50/50 winning rate. That’s not the case in this game. it’s called balance. So yeah Olimar is going to struggle against sword characters.
@SuchiVang-k3d
@SuchiVang-k3d 11 ай бұрын
I play as Olimar! I just don't frickin understand why people hate him but they like him in ****ing PIKMIN!!! OLIMAR IS THE BEST CHARACTER IN MY OPINION, LIKE SOME PEOPLE LIKE HIM BUT MOST PEOPLE HATE HIM!!!
@bobert555555
@bobert555555 11 ай бұрын
Cmon VARS, I’m begging you to do a little Mac video. You’ve somewhat noted him in the comeback video, but it’d be so fun to do a hard analysis of him 😂
@Alvis44
@Alvis44 11 ай бұрын
Why, why little mac
@Wario_B
@Wario_B 11 ай бұрын
Whistle armor still makes me angry
@snivydream
@snivydream 11 ай бұрын
I think you’re not asking/awnsering the right question
@peacho7515
@peacho7515 10 ай бұрын
Dandori thibking is required to play olimar
@temmie5764
@temmie5764 10 ай бұрын
Still waiting for the Lucas video
@chrisouellet6398
@chrisouellet6398 11 ай бұрын
I don't think you actually play the game
@keeeot
@keeeot 11 ай бұрын
Duck Hunt video when?
@VeryHungryEggshelleater
@VeryHungryEggshelleater 10 ай бұрын
purple bikmin
@thewoofalo631
@thewoofalo631 10 ай бұрын
Any I want it to stay this way
@k-leb4671
@k-leb4671 10 ай бұрын
I remember back when I was obsessed with Brawl, Olimar was the _one_ character I basically never played. He was just so weird and, as you said, unintuitive. I didn't get his moveset at all. I couldn't keep track of or figure out any of the properties of the pikmin. I thought he was the worst character in the game, but then again I was a kid. Also, I don't understand, how did Olimar go from a zoner to a kind of faux-swordie?
@leviking3828
@leviking3828 10 ай бұрын
lucario next
@X-35173
@X-35173 11 ай бұрын
I mained Oli in smash 4 but dropped him in ultimate when I realized how fun Wii Fit Trainer is
@user-ICY-Andreid
@user-ICY-Andreid 5 ай бұрын
I main olimar
@theelectricant98
@theelectricant98 11 ай бұрын
Cuz boring
@MeLlamoJonathan
@MeLlamoJonathan 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. Personally I hate Olimar but it's nice to see an analysis on him. Request : "Why No One Plays Pichu"?
@ConFault
@ConFault 10 ай бұрын
day 2 for asking for why no one play meta knight
@FireStorm1358
@FireStorm1358 10 ай бұрын
He used to be meta but now it's just... not
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