Why "No One" Wants to Work Anymore

[@subcitizen2012]

Work used to give you dignity. Now it takes it away.

[@annberlin5811]

Well said

[@kathrynj.hernandez8425]

Put in an aggressive problem-solver and he will get the dignity,

[@cathyxu3243]

Haha, well said!

[@redsak5311]

Thankyou

[@kevinvaters2526]

The company my dad worked for was downsizing so to keep his job he had to take on janitorial duties or be let go. He lost his dignity but food remained on the table. Thanks dad.

[@Dobermanmomma]

You used to have one job that paid the bills until you retired. Now, you have to have one or more employee positions, run your own small business, have 3 side gigs, sell your art, write a book, coach your kids sports team, pet sit when your friends go on vaca, etc. all to make ends meet. Yet, the older generations still say we are lazy and entitled even though it seems they were the lazy entitled ones who had one mindless employee position.

[@jaton206]

Dirty boomers

[@hannag6546]

Well said

[@1ride1life]

Yep that's true because we don't have the buying power doesn't mean that we have the work ethic and just because we are not into consumerism doesn't mean that we aren't hard workers

[@evelynannrose]

because older gens are entitled and oblivious

[@cathyandresiak]

@@evelynannrose I am older and I don't think that at all nor do the people I know my age. Some older people have no idea what is actually going on in the workforce and are thinking it is the same as it was 40 or 50 years ago. Most of these employers did it to themselves, treating people like slaves so let them work themselves, I don't feel sorry for most of them, they kinda got what was coming to them.

[@Toxic_Femininity]

It’s not that ppl don’t want to work, it’s that they don’t want to be exploited 💯

[@simonschneider5913]

exactly. the amount of technological advantage compared to development of wages is a clear indication of someone siphoning off excessive amounts, constantly going up since at least WWII...more than even the european feudal system ever dared to extract from its citizens.

[@h2w25]

8:00 bro had me at communism. Never hard to wrap my head around. I knew something was fishy the first day of kindergarten

[@johnp7739]

In some cases. But I know a lot of small business owners who can't get good workers. They're totally unreliable, on their phone all day, etc. There is a LOT of that, too.

[@simonschneider5913]

​ @johnp7739 true, they are exploitative as well. but this happens mostly where you buy overpriced stuff...

[@4wheelwarrior]

​@@simonschneider5913No kidding. Machinery and automation should allow us to work 3 hour days or less. Instead, they're working us as hard as possible out of sheer fckn greed, overproducing mountains of junk nobody really needs.

[@gotinogaden]

Toxic coworkers, bullying managers, few-to-no prospects - what's there not to like?

[@jimmybrad156]

Also increasing pay in real terms, and less traffic to/from work. Oh and cheaper petrol😂

[@helpanimals-]

well said. Plus "influencers" shouldn't be even considered a job. It's gross what they do, just grift

[@lilfairycupcake]

thats why i chose to trade stocks full time. no bs!

[@kathrynj.hernandez8425]

Good luck! You will find those roadblocks no matter where you go. Only high-achievers who see a bigger picture and then conquer it will survive.

[@lilfairycupcake]

@@kathrynj.hernandez8425 I got sick of the BS. Trading stocks full time. No shortage of how much I appreciate me, and my efforts to better me, rather than benefiting someone else.

[@marktucker208]

Not sure what it’s like in other countries but here in the UK you end up working 5/6 days a week, getting up at the crack of Dawn and then by the time you’ve got home, looked after kids, dinner etc it’s bed time again. You get taxed a crazy amount of money for public services that don’t work or are getting worse. You lose almost all of your free time because on your days off you’re doing all the things that you need to do like shopping, cleaning, maintenance. All while seeing people on TV like politicians who are blatantly playing the system to advance their own lives, seeing people coming across on boats who get everything handed to them by the government. Then the next week you do it all again and again. Then at the end of the month you get paid but guess what? Once you’ve paid your bills there’s nothing left for a treat or to save for a house/pension. Oh wait! What’s that? A letter from a company or your landlord!! Prices rising again!…. You work all week and never get anywhere in life.

[@turtleanton6539]

Indeed😂😂😂😂😂

[@megscott222]

It's exactly the same here in commie Canada 😢

[@dianejensen3420]

Well said and so true..... Thank you!

[@DoodMang7]

Same in the USA exactly. I lived on the East coast and now in the West and its all a bunch of shit

[@myoutuber77]

If you work a warehouse job then your life is like this. There are better jobs around.

[@WhiteMouse77]

1. Nobody inteligent wants to do work that makes no sense or brings no satisfaction anymore. 2. Nobody mentaly elevated wants to have relationships wih simple minded others.

[@jen-cy6wj]

THIS

[@marisamorgan3379]

Well your toast then ..because most things will fail your expectations in life .

[@joevaghn457]

@@marisamorgan3379right, I work at Walmart currently because it’s job. I dislike it, but you don’t get everything you want in life. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to make ends meet as close as you can.

[@Paradoxisthefingerprintofgod]

I know, so what we do? Im going to drive Uber or do something super stupid I guess.

[@RedLegPiper]

So.....what are you options to pay your bills?

[@RastusFlanigan]

When you dangle the carrot an unreasonable distance from the horse, the horse finds something else to eat.

[@SimGunther]

Which in this case would be dirt only to pass away a few days later due to an illness because everything else safe and edible was too far away to find.

[@AMarie_Mooch]

But as society does this the horse finds there is no one to build a stable anymore as there are no skilled workers who know how to do that anymore. There is no one to give them hay or clean their hay as no one wants that job… so the horse has to hang out in pasture only and endure the freezing cold. Just saying.

[@borikero1]

​@@SimGuntherthere is always another way. Fortunately it is really hard to monopolize every opportunity out there...many have tried tho 😂

[@Dreamer-by4nk]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexanderpatterson7117]

This is one of the best quotes I’ve heard in ages. Thank you.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

Workplaces ARE dictatorships! As an employee in a professional firm you are constantly monitored, paid only very reluctantly and only because they have to pay you, you are harassed, bullied and are given tough targets and deadlines to meet. On top of that you have to write long reports at the end of the week and send it to a multitude of people who often come back with dumb questions you need to waste time to answer. In other words, work is hell. On top of that, the stock market is going to shit, so even your retirement savings won't be enough to allow you to retire until you're 70.

[@EMan-cu5zo]

Quit. Find another place to work or start your own business. It’s no secret that business is ran like this and if people are just now figuring this out is funny to me. Open your eyes and think for a minute. A democratic company would be interesting but I think they would ultimately eat themselves because people are naturally greedy and want to be the boss. Also would be interesting to watch everyone argue about who does the most work therefore want more money.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

​@@EMan-cu5zo "just go to a different feudal lord if you dont like it or start your own kingdom." Smoothbrain take

[@EMan-cu5zo]

@@Gigachad-mc5qz I am saying start your own business. It doesn’t have to be some huge company but enough to let you live comfortably. The smooth brain is counting on companies to take care of you.

[@arthurzettel6618]

If you really have that much of a problem then get off of your dead ass and do something constructively about it providing that you have the guts and resolve to accomplish your personal goals.

[@dusklvr]

I worked my butt off day after day for people who treated me like a piece of crap..... For low wages.

[@ShutterSpeedGaming]

God bless you. I pray that things get better for you.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Ok, you worked for a living like anyone else. And?

[@joevaghn457]

Where the hell were you working lol I’ve never experienced that, like ever.

[@garyfrancis6193]

That’s normal.

[@arthurzettel6618]

Assholes are like attitudes everybody's got one. Especially those whom I've seen in the past who cocked one too many times later to be treated like crap and fired.

[@larissapaixao3779]

But not everyone wants to become an influencer or dropshipper, some of us just want to work a normal job (if it paid us a livable wage) . Not all of us can or want to become influencers

[@evanhuizenga8626]

It's only temporary until the collapse of society, don't worry

[@cosmicquestions1931]

listen to the audio book, think and grow rich. The key is to become someone who's valuable, then give that value to people. the ways you can do that are infinite. You can solve the puzzle of what is valuable about you, and become free! or you can accept the slave wages you get by being a slave for someone else's dreams.

[@ChrisMustermann]

@@cosmicquestions1931 or in other words: you can find your life purpose 🙂

[@coldwater5707]

Yes. Also, the work environment went to sh*t when others decided to "bring their whole selves" to work and imposed THEIR version of inclusion and everyone. That hyper accelerated the feeling of being in the dictatorship. Took the "wrong" political position? Backed the "wrong" party/candidate? Donated to some individual/cause? Said the wrong word? This may have always been the case to a certain extent but if your are forced to such an extent into cognitive dissonance then things get very unpleasant. In this sense it is MUCH better to say JUST be the "mechanic", or "programmer", or "suit on org chart". Why yes...I do just want to be a unit of labor rather than "changing the world".

[@coldwater5707]

@@Pickle-k6q "they" have already relocated largely. I spent 20 yrs in unions including the Teamsters. They are literally the same ones who endorsed the same greasy rich dems like Pelosi, Feinstein, and Newsom. IF unions would withhold ALL endorsements and political donations they would become more palatable to the public. It is my opinion that Larry Fink COMPLETELY outmaneuvered all of them with woke BS anyway. The suits now have the ability to atomize the heck out of all Unions based on the identity politics established by the Communist leaning Professors. I am in the SF Bay Area and I laughed by ass off watching Donald Trump turn every teacher into a blubbering wreck. Unfortunately I had to deal with kids crying also due the hyperemotional state the bastards in the CTA did. And THAT was just the beginning of their "hurt" feelings". Personally, if these babies would just shut their pie holes, I would want to take 70% of the admins jobs and salaries, and hand it to the teachers who just keep the politics (as much as humanly possible) out of our classrooms. Seriously, I am so pissed at the our unions and their incessant partisan behavior. I don't identify with many Unions like the SGA at any level. In no way, shape, or form. Also, I can't stress this enough...but the companies need to be able to fire the same damn malcontents the stewards have to deal with. Over and over and over, making the whole place toxic to everyone. Oh, the one guy the company and the steward wanted to fire. A friend of mine who just didn't want to take the damn jab. The union was useless in that situation, because it was more important that they prove their loyalty to the DNC overlords.

[@evelynannrose]

im so proud of the next gen. Im 40 yrs old went to college and work in traditional sense. im teaching my kids this is NOT the way. The purpose of life is to find your purpose and pour your heart and soul into it.

[@Marj_Lp888]

You are the greatest and best mentor keep going 😊

[@irishouston4103]

Thank you ❤

[@jeffrucks4477]

Poor baby.

[@Autonomous15]

@@jeffrucks4477 🙄

[@tonyherdina9142]

I know what my purpose is, it just doesn't pay shit.

[@AndNowIWrite]

People are tired of being used for corporate greed. The US needs to step up its game with healthcare, wages, vacation time, and respect. I moved to Europe in 2019, these folks have healthcare, 30 days of vacation, and your boss is not allowed to contact you during off hours.

[@donmarek7001]

Healthcare is expensive because of government intervention and rent seeking insurance companies with the help of government purposely keeping things costly.

[@ontoshere]

@@xxcelr8rs as if that's not the case here if you want those things. With my great insurance and pension, after taxes I take home only 50% of my income. There are good options out there, but they're rare. I'm lucky enough to recently have been offered one. But I've interviewed in so many places and health insurance would cost almost 10% of my paycheck at some places, and that's with a pretty good salary. OR I get offered an amazing salary, but am expected to be a code monkey and hate my life, so I wouldn't last anyways. These nice opportunities like the one I have been offered are so far and few between, I'd rather have some increased taxes so I'm not reliant on my position for my health. I don't ever want to go back to the days of choosing money over my health. Because wtf does money matter if you can't invest in your well-being? If we didn't have to worry about that, imagine the opportunities and growth people would be able to pursue. Happy people are productive people.

[@infamoussnyc3761]

And Europe is collasping

[@Mxl100]

😅😊😅😢😅😅😅

[@Mxl100]

😅😊😅😢😅😅😅

[@I_Am_NiiTA]

No one wants to work? Me and many other people have applied to hundreds of listings just to be turned down, gaslight, ghosted, or even straight up scammed! NO ONE IS HIRIING!!!

[@lifevest1]

Preach that. Was unemployed from Nov to April. Mind you I work in supply chain so an actually practical industry with lots of demand. They just want to low ball the person with the highest experience.

[@vme138]

There is a big problem with the path you described here. Content creators are often paid by big corporations with their own set of rules different than your public, in the end you are still inside the trap. Even if you are a freelancer you depend on internet that is carried by other companies and to be found you depend on SEO, algorithms, all of them run by big companies

[@cr4yv3n]

it's funny how all these "content creators" would starve if the REAL workers would stop for even a day

[@smellyfart1270]

@cr4yv3n Yeah, economy based on content creators would be a joke. And a short one at that. We need those boring, uncool "traditional" jobs. You have to be really privileged to claim to be above that and that this trend should last. We need to find a way to change companies from within. Unfortunately, everyone in the west wants to be the exception.

[@slicer2938]

okay even if thats the case this one pays and he is further up the chain then your typical person working for a business

[@crafty_matt]

Your entire career as a content creator is just to help some other company sell its products. Even when you get donations through twitch, patreon, etc, you're still forced to play by their rules, much like working for a large company directly. There are plenty of wonderful channels out there, but inevitably when they get big enough to support the creator as their primary income, they kinda become a corporate shill. As traditional advertising is dying, content creation/influencers have become the new main avenue.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

@@slicer2938 actually he is lower on the totem pole, as he RELIES on the workers for the views. If the viewers do not view the utuber's content then he/she starves.

[@vanessahdz2665]

I think the pandemic forced us to think of our mortality and think of what really matters. And working for the man just isn't what matters.

[@livingsimplywithcj7878]

You mean mortality?

[@montanagal6958]

horrible what they did

[@grindingdeviance1864]

As someone who has been working since 1985, I honestly PREFERRED the days when we were 'just' clerks or bus boys. In recent decades, employers often give employees fancy sounding titles like 'food service specialists' or 'account managers' when in reality, we're still basically the same old working stiffs. Back then we were considered 'ignorant' but at least management took care of more than they do now (health insurance, for example). Now, even though we're getting paid less (after inflation), still have no decision making powers and are treated no better, we're expected to be 'smart' and 'responsible.' Really, it's the worst of both worlds in some work places: Being treated like a soda jerk, but being expected to perform with the wisdom and devotion of a fortune 500 executive.

[@mackaready1]

Yes it’s the notion that everything is interconnected and so nothing is “just” this or that. It’s “everything”. It’s so retarded.

[@mochipii]

They gave us fancy titles and expect us to work extra for that fanciness, when in fact, we're just a clerk.

[@dolliscrawford280]

Have you unionized yet?

[@wetcrow_com]

I am a baby boomer. Young people don't have the opportunities my generation had. My parents' generation had it better after world war 2 ended. This is mainly due to corporate greed and the US Dollar not backed by anything.

[@clownbooface2624]

Yeah dollar had a good run but with the continual money printer gubmints and this new brics story... better get out and sell up because its not gonna be a good time sooner than later

[@Recuper8]

ah hem, it's also because your generation refused to vote for issues that benefited other generations besides your own. There are books on this topic that point an enormous amount of the blame at your generation. I wouldn't mind your generation's intense selfishness nearly as much if you ALL at least admit to your extreme greed & narcissism.

[@povertyiscreated2265]

Under a third party company for Amazon i delivered groceries to wealthy people in New York. I got paid minimum wage, inconsistent work schedule, no microwave, no water, 10 hour shifts, not a single place to sit down and rest. It genuinely felt like slavery especially when living paycheck to paycheck. Being on minimum wage one risks loosing public assistance making the cost burden even worse.

[@SaveGaza44]

Working feels like slavery.

[@Cardioid2035]

Welcome to end stage capitalism, fellow consumer. We are a slave to money until we die. It’s just a matter of enjoying the ride and not letting this notion zap too much joy.

[@reasonwarrior]

@@Cardioid2035 I don't think there is an "end stage" to capitalism (Marxist term) and we are very far from living in a free market, which is what we should want. We do have the option to make things better by going back to an actual form of a free market economy and even in the limited version we have now we at least have the choice to rise out of our slavery by becoming a master (business owner). In a communist dictatorship, that option is unavailable. What's stopping you from just starting your own business and removing yourself from servitude?

[@SaveGaza44]

@@reasonwarrior i am 65. I was a Social Worker and Massage Therapist. No idea how to start over.

[@reasonwarrior]

@susanjacobs6461 Life is a challenge and a learning experience. You can do it!

[@Cardioid2035]

@@reasonwarrior Even if I owned my own business, I’d still forever only be a slave to it to ensure I can sustain myself off it’s revenue. Being a slave to money isn’t necessarily a bad thing if you enjoy what you do… but I’ve yet to find enjoyment in the 9 to 5 working structure

[@jon6309]

When I initially joined the work force it was the most horrible experience in my life from toxic managers and coworkers to over demanding customers. The wage could not make up for the mental exhaustion I tolerated with all the verbal abuse. I finally worked my way up to a very comfortable job after several job hopping with better working conditions and a boss I respect and can truly call a friend who I trust but due to the trauma I just lost motivation and no longer want to work anymore despite the better working conditions granted to me. I still maintain a satisfactory work ethic to my manager only because she is very nice to me but if I had a choice I wouldn’t work period!

[@luciddreams6210]

That’s how I feel. Sometimes even when improvements are made/achieved they are too little or too late. Oftentimes people think that what we all need is to be directed. AKA forced down a set path so that we can learn the ropes so to speak but the problem with this is that everyone is different and we end up exhausting the resources of some people in the process of attempting to prepare them to have the greatest possible end result or highest capacity outcome. Everyone just isn’t built the same. This is the downfall of having a one size fits most system of doing things within the reality of an extremely diverse ecology. I hope people can get used to the fact that we aren’t going to benefit from continuing to do things in this way since the more of our natural diversity we knock off or “filter out” 😒 the less healthy and sustainable we become as a whole.

[@mariahconklin4150]

I think my biggest trigger in the work place is when I ask someone how they are doing and they tell me what they did this weekend because I asked them and they don’t even bother asking me about my day it’s like cool thanks but this is California to you. So I’m just gonna not ask anymore and do my job it’s just gonna be hey I’m good and if they ask me how I am it’s I’m good and how are you? Then it’s their good and we leave it at that but I’m done trying with co workers 😂 depressing though but god it’s my biggest trigger

[@mariahconklin4150]

Yeah same with me but I finally found a job I like doing dishwashing at a college. It gets stressful because we serve 3,000 students a day so the dishes pile up but we work as a team and it’s cool cause it’s my own little space and yes people bug me but it’s mostly to ask for something, wash their knives, or having me grab something up top sense I’m so tall. 😂took forever to get this job because I don’t really have experience dishwashing. I was job hopping a lot and had no support I’m so glad I’m not alone in this it’s frustrating because if you have rent to pay it’s tough. And my rent just went up and I’m only getting $18 an hour at work it sucks.

[@mariahconklin4150]

@@luciddreams6210plus when one works 40 hrs a week with only two days off it’s like we are still working because we have to do laundry then clean house, make food it’s exhausting. I miss creating stuff like art projects 😢

[@8all8at8once8]

That could be my text.

[@thepresentmoment369]

People are sick of being slaves to greedy corporations that dehumanize and don't care about people's health, physically or mentally.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

A lot of what you're saying is resonating with me lately, working an average full-time job here in Australia will pay your rent and some but you just get by. People are waking up.

[@penguingobrrbrr353]

Waking up from what?. What can people do??.

[@CaseyAvalon]

​@@penguingobrrbrr353 first step is to finally see the truth, then find like minded people, and start there. Learn and talk about things to spread awareness to each other. And we must unite, not divide.

[@jankounchained4211]

If I had a dollar every-time I heard someone say “people are waking up” lol I’m sure they are, but people still won’t act on it. Can you imagine if everyone didn’t go to work for 1 full day out of protest?

[@DarrenYeoYT]

@@penguingobrrbrr353 like what he was saying, there was a time where having one full-time job in the west was enough to live comfortably and even buy a house. 100k P.A. now in Australia won't get you far. A lot of it is taxed, then if you're lucky enough to save what's left over after rent, bills, you'll be saving till the cows come home for a home deposit 😅 but action is the best remedy... I've been working on alternatives, ways to supplement, E.g. online business.

[@DarrenYeoYT]

@@jankounchained4211 not saying people should quit, there are so many jobs that need to be filled for keep society running. I think people are just learning to either live on less and leave the rat race, or finding other more efficient ways to scale their time.

[@artphotognh]

I was born in 1962, and businesses took obscene advantage of our hard work ethic - then failed to give the rewards of less work hours & good pay after we "paid our dues." The nation's work ethic was totally lost, as govt taxed the Working Class into poverty & Big Business outsourced jobs overseas & minimized them with automation. Unfortunately, Big Govt & Big Business has merged into a Fascist Corporatocracy, and this became a Ruling Class - one devoid of any merit, ethics or morals. Small & mid-sized businesses are the traditional souce of upward mobility, but these are immediately bought or destroyed by Big Business (using the power of govt) if successful.

[@paulschell2712]

Yep, with private equity and leveraged buyouts as well.

[@Flipbug_The_Whimsical]

You just blew my mind! And it's true, working for these companies was tolerable when the reward was a good income - thus granting greater personal freedom. But when the money barely pays the rent, you start wondering why you bother

[@Psalm1267]

@Flipbug_The_Whimsical I have to depart from part of that equation, though. Working is no longer tolerable either, no matter what the pay is. They keep piling more and more on you and then gripe because you can't live up to their expectations. Thankfully I'm retired now but when young people look at their future and see the retirement age being pushed up and up, working conditions becoming more and more oppressive, and real income being pushed continually downward, I don't blame them at all for taking a different path. I hope everyone of working age does it!

[@cindyhinson7102]

I agree with you Stephen. I worked at a hospital for 7years without a raise. They said I was non-essential personal. But would threaten to fire me if I did not come in and work through storms or bad weather. Which meant being away from my family during the bad weather and working extreme long hours. But, I wasn't worth a raise decided by the CEO and backed by the board officials. It was criminal how I was treated. Now I am sick and on disability and I am as poor as when I worked. But, everything has gone up in cost. I know the stress of that job has caused some of my illnesses along with age and environmental pollution. Sometimes I think the nation should come together and strike. Period, everyone of us. For better pay, for better social security that we paid into for over 30 years, but it's deemed as a handout. All of the businesses could afford to pay a living wage. It does sound like communism of the worst kind. Elderly or people are living in tents in the street because the system they paid into is failing them. Meanwhile, our president is just giving millions away. This country clearly does not care about us the people, Young, sick, or old. 😢

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

Social security is a pyramid scheme old people didn’t contribute enough into. It’s a birth scheme. If you had under 3 children you didn’t birth enough into the pyramid scheme

[@craigsmith8128]

It's a temporary event, channeling all the work force into media will flatline society. We haven't achieved automation in enough fields to take over the loss of workers, which will in turn lead to shortages in different places. Hence why shortages are happening. Not everyone can be a vlogger, or a video creator. The market will become over saturated. Learn how to do things with your hands, that's true currency. Learn how to think things through without a screen, that's true freedom.

[@walking_introvert]

I think about this a lot also. At that point we have a lot of people that produce nothing tangible. At the same time take a trip to any department store and we so much waste on junk items made of plastic that really never need to be made not to mention a runaway consumerist mentality to have things that don't matter or bring anything useful to our life. Maybe it evens out at some point as AI and robotics provide many things we need without human labor. Right now there are a ton of minimalists channels that are saying the right things and I do think people will eventually shed their desires for hunks of chrome pickup trucks and big houses. We don't need all this stuff, garbage food, and toxic products. I do believe a moneyless society will eventually be a reality as resources deplete and we find a way to share them rather than go to war for them, but we are far from it.

[@jasonmcdonald1241]

Good point.

[@elliotnemeth]

I agree, not everyone can become a content creator. But then, many won't. The vast majority won't.

[@trevorgibbsnc]

I’d like to see how this take ages… 🤔 I’m not so sure friend…

[@StratorusCatalog]

@@walking_introvert A moneyless society has never been realistic, but a society of minimalists is definitely a possibility with the current direction it's going in. One thing I'll add is, I work as a fueler at an airport, and even in the aviation industry, there are worker shortages too...I sometimes wonder what if this leads to more trains? Trains for cities and high-speed trains that take you across the country. Manufacturing the trains and rails would require people to build them, but if I'm not mistaken, it'd be easier to automate train service as opposed to airline service. It wouldn't require as many workers. Of course, some people will always fly planes. I know pilots who love their planes, but the aviation industry requires so many different workers from pilots to flight attendants to ramp agents to fuelers to air traffic controllers. And if all these worker shortages persist, like they have in every other industry, we may shift to methods of transportation that are more easily automated.

[@JohnSmith-zn4uf]

I don't even want to be alive. You think I want to work?!?

[@ShutterSpeedGaming]

God bless you. God put you here for a reason.

[@theseareswayze-lesstimes]

Things will get better. God bless.

[@Manno200]

😂😅

[@x-raycat323]

There are a lot of people less comfortable be grateful what you have

[@kayllenstarships9009]

​@@x-raycat323 How can we be grateful for this misery we call life? Were losing our time by working non stop and time is precious.If we dont have time to spend we dont have life

[@opetelkaaluemaan]

why should i be a debt slave on their tax plantation? it's quite obvious how this world is being run, and by whom. i'm so done with all of this shit...

[@EricKolotyluk]

Very well said. When my father bought his first house, it cost 1 year salary. When I bought my first house, it cost 3 years salary. Today, to buy a first house is 5 to 10 years salary. We now live in an economy of slavery, where young people are slaves to debt.

[@thedadyouneverhadchannel3544]

It’s 14 years now.

[@vp-fv1eo]

You can always buy a cheap home in a different country

[@aoeu256]

I think there are a lot of rules that prevent new cities and houses from being built

[@ksibley7534]

Hats off to youth for leaving traditional paradigms behind and figuring out novel ways to make money. As a boomer, I say more power to you!!! Do it better than we did. Find fulfillment and retain that dignity.

[@marcd6228]

I honestly think that there are private businesses that provide great work environment where you really feel like your ideas are making a difference while also providing great salary but it's mostly in the tech industry... Other industries are still using the "Old Management" approach. They will have to adapt, otherwise they will be in deep trouble in a couple of years...

[@NightinGal89]

I worked in tech, in Eastern Europe. Unless you are in high software development, nobody cares about your ideas. And even then, you have to walk on eggshells to keep your job.

[@silverkey9421]

I feel A LOT of those nice things you mentioned will go away fast as AI grows. One person to manage several AI employees seems a lot cheaper and reliable than 100 employees with free will and a home life.

[@marcd6228]

@@NightinGal89 For sure not every company provides great work env. I too experienced it... I've noticed that small companies tends to care more about their employees whereas big companies usually use outdated management practices.

[@Dreamer-by4nk]

🤔

[@annberlin5811]

I agree. I live in a big small town and reputations get around

[@shrunkensimon]

Why would anyone want to work? The past few years were used to deliberately dismantle the fabric of the economy (and social relations), while simultaneously transferring wealth upwards.. the greatest heist in all of history in fact. It was so brazenly obvious in the UK, where literally billions just vanished upwards and into pockets of the politicians. Productivity has risen for decades and yet where have all the benefits gone? It has been siphoned upwards and off the top, stashed into offshore accounts and out of circulation. We're talking trillions, possibly quadrillions. We waste trillions on militaries, all over the world, when only the powerful want to fight (but never themselves or their children). It's a rigged game. Designed to keep humanity from evolving, and to ensure those at the top can continue to indulge in certain proclivities that the public would be absolutely outraged about if they knew.

[@tollpatschny3346]

When I was a kid, my father worked a decent job, and also worked a side job to bring in extra money. Now I work a job that is comparable to his was in terms of income, and I occasionally thing about working a part time job for extra money, but part time jobs pay SO POORLY. Most of them pay an hourly rate close to half or even a third of the hourly rate at my full-time job. It’s just genuinely not worth giving up my weekends for the extra cash because I’d basically be working two extra days for less than a days pay.

[@JohnSmith-ul2ce]

This is what I have been doing lately. 40 hours of normal work and 20-30 hours of side hustle/gig work. We need the money to pay down debt so we can move somewhere with a lower cost of living. Good luck out there.

[@Dreamer-by4nk]

Then obviously you don’t need the money.

[@Watchoutforsnakez]

My husband is a painter. He works for the company during the week and does side jobs on the weekend. He doesn’t try to earn extra at 711 on the weekends.

[@mariahconklin4150]

Right? Like Uber eats you could do that but the money goes to gas usually so what’s the point? 😂

[@mariahconklin4150]

@@JohnSmith-ul2cegood luck to you I want to move so bad I live in CA and hate it

[@astrea555]

All I wanted was a nice, meaningful and hard job with a lot of depth, I took computer and design classes hoping to be an artist along the way. Tried to get a job as a graphic designer in my 20': nobody freaking wanted me around and nobody responded to my mails. It's like I was an alien or a ghost. I knew there was work around yet no spot left for me. Ultimately went full artist freelance by myself, but that required learning a lot by myself. By the time I got actually pretty damn good: AI happens and is depressing me to no end. F this.

[@arthurzettel6618]

The pace is fast moving. What is new today will be old inside of 6 months. Unless you are innovative thinking way outside the box a person doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell. (Good luck on your endeavors)

[@GhanYt]

My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in US.........

[@bahijarhafiri]

Such market uncertainties are the reason I don’t base my market judgements and decisions on rumors and here says, got the best of me 2020 and had me holding worthless position in the market, I had to revamp my entire portfolio through the aid of an advisor, before I started seeing any significant results happens in my portfolio, been using the same advisor and I’ve scaled up 750k within 2 years, whether a bullish or down market, both makes for good profit, it all depends on where you’re looking.

[@bahijarhafiri]

Having a counselor is essential for portfolio diversification. My advisor is "Jenny Pamogas Canaya. who is easily searchable and has extensive knowledge of the financial markets.........

[@geoffmerritt]

Geez, been working for 40 plus years, can't think of a single day when I have gone... "Ï want to go to work today"

[@NaginiRiddle]

because, at the end of the day, you're tired, poor, lonely, weak and exhausted, on your way to your third job so you can feed yourself so you can work more. And more. And more. This lifestyle is deadly and sad. No wonder people stop embracing it.

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

this conversation hits hard being in hospitality, it's amazing how much I get yelled and how much pressure is placed on me to work as hard and as fast as possible for some ungrateful customer all the while earning less money than I would need to survive if I didn't have to pay rent

[@anaboltova1340]

Oh, we love to work.We are just done with being slaves .......

[@cpayne3]

Basically people want to be rewarded. If you lessen or take away the reward, it kills the incentive. No reward=no production.

[@SaveGaza44]

Thank you for mapping this out so clearly! I am a Social Worker. The Clients are wonderful...the management is always a Fascist Dictatorship.

[@maplenook]

Start your own practice

[@Shineynsparkles]

@@maplenookare you going to give her startup money ??? Or stop bias from investment firms …are you going to help support her business Go sit down

[@troyarrington5492]

@@maplenookyall gotta stop with this “just do this” narrative

[@zwatwashdc]

‘Job’ require too much time and provide too little in return. A job is mean to support a life. It is not a life.

[@gusmonster59]

Every generation has made this claim. I am 64 and I think people DO want to work, but they'd like a job with wages they can live on, and for employer who gives a crap about the people who work for them. What I make now, my father used make and it was considered very high pay and he supported a family of 5 on it and my parents owned their home. I can't buy a home. Even if I could, I could never afford the monthly payments let alone have 80K for a down payment. It isn't the same world. The people (mostly in my age group, sorry to say) who claim the younger generations (as a whole) are lazy need to shut up.

[@unconventionalaf]

You've confused capitalism with communism. What you described is a capitalist workplace.

[@petersontheodore3361]

That's what I'm thinking I'm so confused

[@RandomJane104]

Does anyone have the cliff notes? I work 50 hours a week and need him to get to the point.

[@maxvideodrome4215]

Agreed! My theory is he doesn’t work, so like a retiree has too much time on his hands and now moves as a slow (retiree) pace. Also, asserts concepts that citizens have no control over, validating the excuses. Talks about how businesses works but probably couldn’t run one himself. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a deep thinker, but with a narrow mindset.

[@ebones6957]

The purpose of these type videos is to desensitize up to the inevitable. Government run by a few individuals is forcing us into slavery. We are like the frog placed into a pot of warm water, never noticing it rising to a boil.

[@chrisfowler9306]

All the new opportunities and side hustles are great and can really improve your skill set, however none are easy and for most of them you are still trading your time for money. A lot of these “passive income streams” that people talk about are anything but passive I have tried a few. Investing in solid performing EFTs and transferring money into them bi weekly has helped. I am skeptical about real estate with all of these 1% down mortgages. I’m just tired I am working 50+ hours a week but feel like I should work more on my side hustles and all to pay bills, get out of debt and invest the little that’s left. I am grateful that I can make it because many around me can’t and it’s heartbreaking- it’s simply not ok.

[@MysteriousFuture]

Have a similar sentiment on working towards getting finances in order to begin investing to leave the rat race in the long run

[@AdonisGaming93]

I completely agree with your premise, but the labels are wrong IMO. That's not communism, and that is clear to see reading communist works from Marx. I always love your videos, keep it up! I believe the more accurate descriptor of what modern corporatism is, is techno-feudalism or corporate-feudalism. The lords and ladies being the board and shareholders, the peasants being the employees that work outside the headquarters, knights being the workers who work in the corporate headquarters (their castle), the the king/queen is the government. The king and lords are in bed with eachother (presidents and CEOs), the CEOs pay their knights slightly better (corporate salaries), and the peasants (everyone else) gets the scraps barely enough to afford 1 tiny home if they work their entire day JUST for food and housing.

[@hortshack]

The term is borrowed from the book's author, Elisabeth Anderson.

[@bog6106]

No one wants to work for predatory employer, I would gladly run a business myself and compete but its not a level playing field. The american dream is not working for a corporation

[@lcvmaddox3357]

We need more truth like this out there to fight the corporate mass media gaslighting, so thanks for this well-laid-out video!❤

[@rhi1624]

These always come out on my lunch break and it makes it hard to go back to work haha. Great job on these recent videos, I've gotten a lot out of them and it sounds like other people have too. Going to throw this out into the ether in the hopes that it might happen, but I think a conversation between you and Dr. K of Healthy Gamer fame would be incredibly interesting, would love to see you on his stream one of these days. Have a great rest of your week Stephen!

[@amansingh-lj3tg]

great recommendation bro

[@jamisonm5854]

It makes sense that traditional workplaces are like dictatorships, but not communist. They're more like capitalistic dictatorships. Communism would advocate for common ownership of the means of the production, the working classes revolting against the rich, and in the end wanting a stateless and equal society. They critique the capitalists which make up traditional workplaces where everything is about profit and consumption. Secondly, the solution of being an internet entrepreneur to solve the problem of pay not meeting living costs is probably only useful to a small number of people. It's an incredible amount of work for most people to make more money as an entrepreneur than they'd get from a traditional workplace. Usually it's also a totally different skillset. You are right though in that it would remove you from being in a dictatorship and put you in a position of being a full on capitalist.

[@wisdomdantecourt8179]

Bingo! I just don’t think there’s enough space and sustainable wealth to go around in the socmed arena to support those who want to leave the rat race. 🐀🐀🐀

[@reinaldomartinez13]

Learning all of this at 22 has been a trip, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this to reach that fulfillment

[@wrathford]

Build something

[@tonyrmathis]

Get moving. Don't wait to plan everything out. Life is short and by the time you get it all figured out you'll be halfway through it. Let life surprise you.

[@Dreamer-by4nk]

😆

[@reinaldomartinez13]

@@tonyrmathis I've since then learned that you don't need a plan, you need a strategy on how to win. Life won't surprise me, I'll surprise life.

[@tonyrmathis]

@@reinaldomartinez13 If you've figured it out by 22 then you'll be a great success. Most don't figure it out until their health fails them and they realize they've wasted their lives.

[@The_Gallowglass]

People wanna work. They wanna work where they're needed and well compensated.

[@craigenputtock]

What's the point of working if you can't make a living?

[@historyre-visited4597]

Nope, people are just growing sick of working twice as hard as their parents for half as much gain, while looking back at the stories of how their grandparents bought homes, went on vacations, owned cars, and led real, middle-class American lives on a single family income.

[@amansingh-lj3tg]

I understand your aruguments for the most part but have one question. What if everyone decides to switch over to the information jobs or content creation jobs, who shall then be left to consume the content created or the information generated. There always has to be a healthy and greater percentage of people working normal jobs so that other folks can move to information jobs. Am i correct in my understanding here? please, share your thoughts friends. Is a content creation job really viable and sustainable in the longer run ?

[@inbornwanderlust1076]

It's viable and sustainable now for those who really go out and do it. It likely won't be long term, and it wasn't just a short time ago. But "long term" and "a short time ago" aren't quantifiable amounts of time. Is it defined for instance between the dinosaur age and now, or between now and his age of retirement? Between 1999 and now, which is where his data point begins? What was happening in 1988? Does it matter? We don't know. And that's the point. It doesn't actually matter. He's had the vision to see opportunity for himself, as it exists now, and made something of it. He's the type of personality who will do it again and again as many times as he needs throughout his life. So the key is simple. He's out here doing the thing while most people are not. And that's how success happens in all realms of life.

[@folpon]

I'm not a communist, but this is kind of a bridge too far man. The point at which we extend the word communism to include the control over productive resources which private capital has is the point at which we have rendered not just the idea of communism but also the idea of capitalism meaningless. The overall argument in this video is sound, but the inclusion of the idea of communism is completely unnecessary, as what's being described isn't an evil of communism, it's just a textbook example of social externalities being uncaptured by existing capitalist marketplaces.

[@pamelae2372]

You won't need money if there are no products to buy. Someone has to make them. Who will build the house you want to live in? Where are the real men?

[@Dan-n5h9m]

Dropped out. THEY didn't want to lose their dignity applying for ghost Jobs a 7 interviews a degree and 5 years experience for mc ds job market

[@user-Kova15]

Real men = slaves

[@chrism8180]

They been marginalized and disincentivized

[@HuatulcoGuy]

Workers get crumbs, senior management executives get huge bonuses. Companies should be ashamed of themselves!

[@richardscathouse]

Wage Slavery. Just the American way 😢

[@chrism8180]

You assume they are capable of expressing that emotion.

[@kalasatwater2224]

9 to 5 is modern day slavery, don't know how people can do it, I refuse to do it

[@istvanpraha]

The problem with this egalitarian ideal comes to light if you ever manage people or teams. Everyone hypothetically wants ownership, decision making responsibility, a stake, a say….but when push comes to shove, 80-90% of people fail at it when things go bad. Yeah, it’s easy to take group votes when everything is great. But once the business starts having issues or something breaks or you get sued or the software needs to be changed or even you needing to move offices, suddenly everyone wants to delegate the decisions (or worse, only the unpleasant ones) to other people. And everyone says “I wouldn’t do that” until it happens to them

[@CorporateRage_BattleForControl]

nice to have some data. Maybe I missed it, but what is the source of the data you provided?

[@Im_Tiff]

I've been working since I was 15. I'm 47 now...and if I could go back in time.....

[@GhostGirlBlues]

a capitalist dictatorship. companies are literally capitalist. what you are describing is capitalism. that's just how it works

[@kalilavalezina]

Thank you. This gave a voice to something I've felt for a long time. I've worked both in employed jobs and self-employed. While the former gives some sense of stability and regularity financially, it's generally very stifling and boring. Self-employment is extremely freeing, but also stressful. I'm learning how to work through my blocks that make the self-employment stressful.

[@danceswithcoyotes8273]

Same. Self-employment is stressful. It's flexible and freeing, but almost to a fault. Because it's difficult to know what money will be there from week to week. Instead of having one stable employer, I have multiple less stable employers. I can never guarantee a schedule. And while some things about my job are easier (more sleep), some things are harder. Some account are more physically and psychologically demanding. So I get it.

[@kalilavalezina]

I hope it gets easier for you!@@danceswithcoyotes8273

[@danceswithcoyotes8273]

You too! @@kalilavalezina

[@chrislee176]

No. People in government can legally violate the non-aggression principle, something that other citizens cannot do. A company boss cannot do this. All he/she can do is cease relationship with you. How I wish that were the case with the IRS agents.

[@justinmcclain6423]

Is the 1999 home the exact same home as the 2022 home? I agree we have less buying power, but the houses built now in the subdivisions are bigger, more features, look like movie houses. I don't remember houses like that when I was a kid.

[@sarahshanahan2222]

If you refuse to work... what will you do when its retirement time? Social security (even though it is very little money) comes to those who work

[@MysteriousFuture]

As I would say, if you going to work, might as well put some money away to retire in peace. Pay now, play later or play now, pay later: your choice 😂😂😂

[@artphotognh]

Many people today make good money on KZbin - but that income flow is totally controlled by Big Tech, and it will quickly be eroded away. KZbin will continue to take a bigger chunk of that income flow, until your portion is negligible.

[@maxvideodrome4215]

I own a biz (23 years now) with staff. Biz isn’t the enemy of an employee, the Gov is. In Canada gov is a 50% partner in a biz - when that’s not enough for the gov, they “audit” and pick your pockets more. Biz would love to pay employees more. Most biz owners I speak with agree. Small biz is expected to pay same rates large corps do - and most do, hitting the viability limit. Products services would need to go up, but then competitiveness drops. Keep supporting Amazon everyone.

[@donnamoon8769]

Agreed that government laws hurt small business while big businesses often get breaks that smaller businesses do not.

[@adkancapadventures7738]

I disagree with certain aspects of this analysis. The workplace is a voluntary arrangement where the individual provides time and labor in exchange for financial resources. Government however is a group of individuals providing services on a compulsory basis which is ultimately enforced by violence.

[@trevorgibbsnc]

Government is enforced by Violence.. Explain this to me? Also is work really voluntary whereby the outcome is social ostracization and homelessness?

[@adkancapadventures7738]

@@trevorgibbsnc Taxation for example is government requiring an individual to give it money which is a product of the individuals time and labor. It is the individuals private property. The individual is compelled to hand over money by threats or coercion. If the money isn’t ultimately handed over then men with guns kidnap the individual and put them in a cage. You can’t opt out even if you disagree what government is using the money for. When an employer requires an individual to give time and labor, if the individual doesn’t like what he is given in exchange he can simply end the relationship because it is voluntary.

[@conr6]

I don’t know what to do other than numb ourselves to continue, i still want to meet all my obligations but there’s this general tiredness and ennui, knowing how much we stress ourselves for what? Saw so many people turn into deregulated adults, with no support or recognition, they just become more bitter and they receive less understanding as a result of the expectations re work (old school). It’s hard if your nervous system is disregulated, you become the worst version of you and the feeling is compulsive. We need calm and stillness to regulate and become “ourselves again.” Horrible cycle. Took my parents away from us, and our grandparents before them. Thank you for this video 🫡🙏

[@ezekiel5687]

I create things and sell, I make money by myself. I wont work a 9-5 and will never be a slave for someone else. I control what I do and love it. Also, saving my sanity is more important than working a matrix driven job that I'd hate. 9-5s aren't for me. Some people look down on that but I dont care.

[@MysteriousFuture]

I favor the attitude of making money beyond just the traditional way, and have my standard job with multiple side gigs. Not sure what I should teach my future children when figuring how they will make money as adults

[@troyarrington5492]

Not everyone can or wants to do that

[@arcanineryu]

They little wanna have us all work for less cost than it takes to go to the damn 9 to 5. Like the salary barely covers gas and car payments. Would practically save money by sitting at home not working.

[@mariosandoval599]

The definition of communism is when the workers own the means of production, in historical examples its true that we have seen communist states hold complete control of the means of production and not allowed the workers autonomy over them, but that does not change the definition of the term communism which wouldn't apply here because we can see that the workers have no control over the means of production.

[@panatypical]

Where in the world HAVE the workers ever owned the means of production throughout a nation? According to your definition, there has never been a practical example of Communism. Guess why. Communism is a bogeyman ginned up by high finance to foment chaos so that they can reorder societies for their greater benefit.

[@Incantationem]

Was basically fired from a warehouse for seeing my family after working all summer, and for not wearing their ushanka-hat.

[@YoungGrizzly]

Yep Covid allowed me to move away from a city center, get cheaper housing with tons of land, and now I work from home for multiple companies with fair less effort than working in an office for one company.

[@wege8409]

The #1 thing that dying people say is "I wish I didn't work so much." We should take that sentiment to heart and work toward this future. Bring in the bots

[@marcmeinzer8859]

Being a former canoeing guide in northern Ontario I always viewed Canada as a homesteading paradise where simple people could obtain cheap land, build a small resort, or even live off of the land to some extent, although to be realistic there are miserable job opportunities in the Canadian north where many of these mom and pop hunting/fishing lodges are located. But then in tandem with this northern sportsman’s paradise there are the southern cities where housing is insane and jobs are hard to find owing to how relatively more organized the Canadian workforce is compared to what we have here in the states. But if conventional middle class existence becomes unobtainable then people instinctively go into a sort of avoidance paradigm where they become parasites if they’re not enterprising enough to become black market operators of some sort. For instance, how much of electric generating capacity is now devoted to black market marijuana grow ops? I’ve seen figures that suggest it’s equal to the amount of power devoted to manufacturing aluminum cans, which of course is phenomenal, or something on the order of 3% of all electric capacity.

[@AsusMemopad-us5lk]

Used to be a starter job could pay starter rent. Now it can't. If that's "work", no point doing it. So don't. Government numbers about what they think inflation is, never really align with what most of us experience in real life anyway; I dunno why they publish those numbers. Good point bringing up all this.

[@effervescentrelief]

Keep in mind too there is a great disparity between office type jobs, menial jobs (fast food), and skilled trade jobs. Trade type jobs get tons of applicants, the problem there is lack of applicable skills due to lack of training or trade schooling vs regular college.

[@Prioritymale]

I think most young people now see the inflation in relation to wages and they see no future at all. They just see themselves working increasingly more stressful jobs for lower pay, with less benefits for a company that doesn’t give a shit about them. They are screwed either way in their mind. I’m 50 abs have worked my ass off since age 18. I’ve got many assets, passive income, own two businesses, and am a multi millionaire. Even with all that I don’t see much future for myself or my own family…and I’m rich by some standards. Inflation robs people of the ability to find their purpose because all their effort must be delegated to just surviving. Tougher times ahead. We haven’t seen anything yet

[@davekohler5957]

It is rare that I get introduced to a new way of thinking about something that is true. Thank you

[@wherestheparty_]

we`ve grown up into the hustle culture thinking we need to work our asses off but for what? having a job is so overrated as someone in the comments already said, it`s a form of slavery. I understand we need to work to survive but we don`t need jobs.

[@lukeautosymbol2668]

But the people are make a living from the information revolution are not wholly independent or sovereign. They rely on platforms. And their messaging is influenced by the policies, terms, and conditions of the platforms.

[@truno7]

A week of work doesn’t even afford groceries and rent. Let it burn.

[@Vlad-bs1js]

The problem with what you're saying at the end of this video is that all those side gigs you've mentioned lead back to the same thing, which is marketing/sales (get clicks for ads). They don't build anything or add any intrinsic value to society, with very few exceptions, and it's unsustainable on a large scale (we can't all sell things that we don't produce to each other). While in the online space it seems a common thing for people to make a living from social media, the real world is a much more different place. I'm no fan of corporations for many reasons, but we're nowhere near not wanting to work for them. The only ones who can do so, generally speaking, are those who already are fairly well off (trust fund kids, self made, doesn't matter) and can afford to invest years in their social media platform, travel blog and whatnot, in hopes of making it one day (still unlikely anyway).

[@MysteriousFuture]

Why not use the income made at that job to buy assets to make money for you to be your exit strategy? Will it be hard? Yea But is it possible with the right sacrifices? Yes

[@Vlad-bs1js]

@@MysteriousFuture If by right sacrifices you mean living in a tent and spending money only on what's absolutely necessary for most, if not all, of your young adult years then yea, it definitely is possible. Oh, add to that that you also have to be a well above average investor.

[@drivethrupoet]

What's definitely NOT true is that employers can't find workers. Only minimum wage jobs are out there, nothing else. Not now, 8 months after this video posted. And it was already pretty bad back then.

[@viawilderness]

My answer to this is simply that a balance has somewhat shifted back to the general labor workforce, meaning employers have been forced into atleast reconsidering wages for the lower income labor positions. That's literally a whole other discussion on it's own, but an important and interesting one altogether though

[@kokolanza7543]

Nicely done. Not to quibble, but actually "communism" refers to *the people's* ownership of the means of production and distribution, *not* the government's. The Soviet Union did not live up to this aspect of communism. And so insightful of you to connect the private economic-work life aspect with the "meaning of life" question. Have subscribed.

[@FirstLast-tx3yj]

You as an employee cannot do anything regarding your company leaders unless you are given that right by whoever the owners are. If it is a publically traded company you can buy part of it and be a board member or buy all of it just like Elon and twitter. At the end of the day as a worker if you don't like it you walk away and if you have enough resources you start your own company and structure it however the F you want Being private means you have tyrannical privileges restricted by whatever the local laws allow Either stay working there and follow instructions or buy a stake and challenge decisions or found something for zero and rule it yourself

[@kylethompson1379]

My pay is OK but I've probably been slowing down due to exhaustion accumulated in the last 10 years. It seems that around 2010 companies decided the best way to boost profits was to cut their work force/take more work per worker, which was effective for some years but then reached a point of negative returns, where productivity per worker is actually dropping due to workers being so overwhelmed they give up, and also less capacity for specialised workers who are efficient at certain tasks -- companies in engineering consulting seem increasingly only able to afford generalist professionals with a wide range of experience now.

[@prschuster]

You lost me at communist corporations. That's a square circle if I ever saw one. Beside misusing Marxist terminology, having a few individuals making money from the internet, will never be a solution for everyone, because only a few of the most popular internet channels will ever be profitable. It will be a good fit for some though.

[@CoconutPete]

I still don't understand the myth that companies can't find enough workers... the only area I can see that are the really horrible, low paying jobs. But if there's a company out there that can't find enough people to work at their cushy office jobs, hit me up.

[@ThatsnotwhereIparkedmycar]

Why noone wants to work anymore ;) That is a question you hear bandied about with labor shortages everywhere in 2021: "Why don't people want to work for a living anymore?" This is a good primer on the historical and contemporary reasons why - because it sucks. Wage labor sucks. It has become clear that in an American pro-capital context, it offers no escape to a brighter future. Instead, owners and their managers seem to be doubling down on tyrannical rules for labor, like denying them bathroom breaks to the point where they are infantilized into wearing diapers on the job. Next time you hear someone express puzzlement as to why no one wants to work anymore, ask them what this country has done to make working conditions better in the last 40 years that doesn't involve demanding a worker take the huge cost of leaving if they find it too unpleasant for them (that is, if they do not have a noncompete clause). Whatever their answer may be, the widespread loathing of work proves it is not enough. Congrats on Elizabeth Anderson for being an academic that is curious about how workers who do not have tenor for life live (maybe THE academic, as evidenced by how genuinely perplexed the academics at the end of the book are in response to her writing). It is arbitrary scheduling, little time off, micromanaging to the point of voodoo, and now, if you are going to make an amendment to this book, no guarantee you are not going to get a disease with known long symptoms that could persist for years and require expensive privatized medical treatment. Among other well-known problems to working that many who have worked at "the firm" beyond in an intellectual, managerial capacity know. The American working experience is always portrayed as a temporary condition if you are thrifty enough, if you are clever enough, if you attend school in the meantime. The idea is that slavery is temporary, and soon you can be a master. But what if you have no interest in being either slave or master? That is not available in a country governed (by law from government) as default at-will employment, with a sprinkling of anti-discrimination and anti-harassment laws that (in my actual experience as a worker) cannot realistically be pursued in a labor market that otherwise offers little voice for its workers., or accountability for its managers/bosses - beyond their voice of leaving the firm entirely in protest, which this book makes a good case is not enough to justify what happens within firms in the first place (it is akin to asking an Italian to leave if they don't like Benito Mussolini - a tremendous and possibly deadly cost to them, but not much cost to Il Duce). Anderson's writing is sharp and to the point, but if there is a problem with it, it is comparing these businesses rhetorically to communist dictatorships - I think this is meant to get the right and Cold Warrior left professor audience on board with her arguments, but it won't resonate with people under 40 who do not have much memory of the Cold War. It also sets up too easily to disregard Marx's writing about the relationship between capital and labor, which to this day has the fundamental truth that the capital-labor relationship is based on conflict (and in another part of the book, Anderson chides labor unions for the conflict they present to workplaces, when all they are doing is recognizing the conflict exists and pursuing it to victory). I don't think it works with a right wing audience in particular, who I suspect did not oppose communism on the grounds of liberty (at least, the everyday conservative, not the think tank one) as much as its foreign nature. You could easily make these arguments emphasizing the alienation and foreignness of the control implemented by bosses vs. continuing to breathe life into stale Cold War arguments with hysterical accusations of communism (that don't play in particular when bosses and owners do not use Marxist language to justify what they're doing). But overall, a great, succinct read. She is in the right place, paying attention to the right things. This is more than I can say for the vast majority of college professors, focused as they are on their never-ending crisis of identity politics

[@peternorthrup6274]

You forgot the most important thing. Practice birth control at all times. The average man simply can't afford child support. Lots of men are sitting in jail for not paying there child support and expecting the government to feed there kids. A real successful man will always win just by practicing birth control. Leave the fools behind. Certain people will always live in poverty and the hood because they dont know any better. Babies having babies. Mommy did it. So will she. Are prisons are full of children that never should have been born. Dont be that guy.

[@HatefulPerfection]

Is it really fair to call utter dependence on a broader system 'self-sufficient'. I'm not arguing on behalf of corporations, as they contribute to the same dependence, however I do not think drop-shipping is remotely self-sufficient, but extremely dependent on complex infrastructure regulated and maintained by either government or government and additional corporate masters.

[@TheAyikita1]

The problem with what you call "non-traditional" way of work is that it is not as fulfilling, and to my mind, very superficial way of working, let alone very capitalistic too and has a very high barrier to entry since it mostly requires one to be aesthetically "beautiful" (or for some who are not so lucky to be beautiful, the gusto to misrepresent and lie, or just push through). And it's not that easy to succeed and earn enough as it seems. In addition, if there'd be a poll asking these tiktokers or instagram models if they would still be working in these types of "jobs" when they are older and abit more wrinkly, I wouldn't think we can get a resounding yes. Why? Because it is not sustainable - from an economic POV or from a personal POV. I don't discriminate on anyone that wants to work in the socmed industry, but I think working in jobs that actually help the economy and are more productive such as doing manufactuing, engineering, or even administrative jobs is so much more varied and distinct and has actually proven to be better for growing the economy than working to capitise on physical beauty (although I am not saying being pretty is the only requirement to be able to perform these jobs). And hey, if almost all people worked in the socmed industry, who would be making food, repair your broken car, etc. What I am saying is, there needs to be a significant change to be able to abolish the current communist-dicatorship workplaces and be able to retain the more productive jobs for the overall balance in an economy. The problem is not the type of work, but the workplace. The tiktokers and instagram models may be the first brazen ppl to do this, but I think we may be at the cusp of change and in the next 10-20 years, we might be able to see real change for everyone in any industry or type of job, hopefully.

[@streetpainter7]

After COVID-19 hysteria, people are finding better ways to work, and finding ways to spend time with their families. Traditional jobs are now considered modern slavery which makes a creation of remote jobs and alternative jobs that suit you better somehow to fulfill your style of life

[@tbbivi]

so I work at a small company and we're slowly growing and I feel the "dictatorship" creep in. does this book give any pointers in how to structure a company without falling into the dictatorship trap? the only idea I have is structuring the company as cooperate, but this is really tricky in my country 😅