Why O.J. Simpson's Bronco Chase Was Even Crazier Than You Think

[@Anita67x]

Could listen to Tom Lange all day. Tells it straight, no messing around. Much respect from 🇬🇧

[@Romulan2469]

That's why we love him! Such a great guy! It's a tragedy that the world lost his partner Phil Vannatter back in 2012. He would been a great guest for Tom Zenner Scandal!

[@vikings844]

Tom Lange and his partner were amazing to watch on the stand during the trial! Real seasoned pros that did am amazing job collecting evidence! I'll never forget K-Train on the stand! During a serious moment during his testimony went he lightened the mood and tension with funny lines once in a while was hilarious! When he said him and Oj weren't going after the same roles I lost it!😂😂.

[@autumnleaves-77]

I agree, Tom Lange is the quintessential American detective and he's fascinating to listen to. A fan from the UK 🇬🇧

[@frankrichards3089]

Badass.

[@Romulan2469]

@@frankrichards3089 He tells it like it is. No waffle, straight to the point with a lot of detail and excellent memory recall for a 79 year old Vietnam war veteran with a Bronze Star right? He is the man! Tom Lange should receive some kind of lifetime achievement award for his accomplishments in his life. People only think of him for the OJ case but he has worked hundreds of homicides both as a LAPD detective and as a PI and he fought for his country in Vietnam. I get so mad when that corrupt defence team was trying to ruin his credibility, especially that Cochran guy playing the race card.

[@eyeswideopen5517]

Tom Lange is a top-notch professional! Great guest and great series

[@Romulan2469]

Agreed! Lange is great! He's a goldmine of information and his ability to recall with such accuracy exactly what happened so many years ago is just mind boggling! Also I like how he explains it calmly step by step without missing a beat. Best guest on the show by far!

[@loric7296]

Agreed- an he doesn’t seem to mind telling the same stories 100x over

[@Romulan2469]

@@loric7296 True. I would like Tom Lange to talk about his other cases soon. I am hoping Tom Z can get him back soon to go through the serial killer cases after doing the crime scene locations next.

[@bradcover39]

Tom Lange is an amazing guest - his attention to detail and historic recollection is superb.

[@SilmeonMusic]

He could’ve gotten a confession over the phone if he did it right OJ was ready to crack..

[@Augfordpdoggie]

its so fascinating

[@Romulan2469]

Agreed and don't forget he's 79 years old, only 2 years younger than Joe Biden who can't even remember what country he last visited lol! Lange's recall is superb, what an awesome guy!

[@nala3038]

@@Romulan2469we could do without the politics angle.

[@Romulan2469]

@@nala3038 Sorry but I gotta be honest when it comes to memory recall! 😂

[@richierugs6544]

three terrible things happened: 2 beautiful people were murdered, a guy got away with murder, and the Kardashians were unleashed on us all

[@catherinekittykat]

Lol, on the last part 😂

[@tynniafrancisco7423]

Last part😂😂😂😂

[@Romulan2469]

Also you can add to that Robert Kardashian got away with attempted murder and, contrary to popular belief, an accomplice of OJ remains at large. The Kardashians are more of an annoyance than being terrible but I get your point.

[@dgtwo3724]

@@Romulan2469 O.J. had no accomplice.

[@Romulan2469]

@@dgtwo3724 There is enough evidence pointing to a second suspect. If you watched the documentaries on this case you would know that.

[@Romulan2469]

Firstly I gotta say a huge THANK YOU to Tom Z and Kato! You guys are both doing a PHENOMENAL job with this series on the OJ case. You have pulled out all the stops to get the right people on your show and each show is an absolute gem to watch! I just hope this show NEVER ENDS! Great work guys!

[@Romulan2469]

@@Reel-Justice You can calm down as well. No show is perfect but then again neither are you. Remember all the mistakes you made previously with interjecting false information as facts in your timeline? You see, even you make "sooo many mistakes".

[@Romulan2469]

@@Reel-Justice Do I need to remind you about your biggest mistake of them all with the time of death for Nicole?

[@Romulan2469]

@@Reel-Justice That's rich coming from a liar. I guess you don't like being exposed?😂

[@Romulan2469]

@@Reel-Justice Already did in the previous video. You screwed up your own timeline with the wrong time of death for Nicole as 9:59 PM and tried to pass it off as a fact. I corrected you on that error. Clearly you are not smart enough to admit to your own mistakes troll.

[@Joeypots]

This series is great. I was 15 when this all happened and was glued to the TV. Then in the early ‘00’s I went to college in Florida and we met OJ at a bar in Hollywood, FL one night. He was surprisingly alone and we all ended up sitting together for a couple hours. No one dared mention anything about the case. We were young college kids. But as we got drunker, I started joking with him. He was extremely charismatic and actually fun. He also bought all of our drinks. Girls came up to him constantly. Even young college girls. By the end of the night I mentioned that I watched the entire trial as a teen. He asked me what I honestly thought. I told him I thought he was there but something happened that he couldn’t control and other(s) were involved. He raised his eyebrows, gave a very weird smile and winked at me. He then turned to some other people and never mentioned it again. I’ll never forget it. I’m pretty sure my friend has pictures from that night. We didn’t have smartphones then but I think he had one of those disposable cameras. I know I’ve seen one with us all out on the deck. I need to try to get those.

[@TZScandal]

Great story. Thanks for commenting and for watching. T.Z.

[@MRPERFECT_79]

BIG THANKS TO TOM AND KATO AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO DO THIS SERIES!! KEEP EM COMING!!

[@nala3038]

CAPS LOCK

[@Romulan2469]

@@nala3038 Well said!

[@sherineill6630]

I kept checking to see if this was loaded. This is so intriguing. Thank you Tom.

[@Romulan2469]

Amazing guests this week but I have to say, whenever Tom Lange is on I am always extra excited! I hope you keep bringing Tom Lange back, we still need to cover plenty more with him on the OJ saga and beyond with his other cases too. Great work Tom and Kato!

[@sherineill6630]

Kato truly is a gentleman and did get a horrible deal during that time. It angers me to no end that Marcia Clark classified him as a hostile witness and then essentially attacked him on the stand. Her own witness. Idiocy. I watched that trial and my heart went out to him.

[@glennweaver3014]

Marcia made a multitude of inexplicable mistakes in the trial.

[@sherineill6630]

@@glennweaver3014 She certainly did. It’s astonishing to be honest.

[@markmac2206]

she was awful. one time i heard her say she was very confident the almost all black jury would like her and side with her. read the room Marcia.

[@sherineill6630]

@@markmac2206 omg she said that? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@commercialzone4141]

I’ve been looking forward to the next installment in the series. Thank you !

[@Romulan2469]

Same! I'm hoping we can get Mark Fuhrman on soon! 👍

[@Breezyacre]

Thank you so much for these videos! After 30 years of consuming everything possible about this case, I still learn new things from these excellent videos! Keep up the great work guys!

[@shellyraymond4337]

A warm hello to Kato and Tom Lange from a gal who was born, raised, and still living in the beautiful state of Wisconsin! You two gentlemen do our state proud! Oh, yeah, a warm hello to you too, Tom Zenner! I love your shows and have been binge watching for hours! Keep up the great work!

[@brandih9802]

This three part series deserves an Emmy

[@Romulan2469]

I agree! Tom Z has an amazing channel here right?

[@Ru-gv2if]

Top-notch quality! The studio, audio, and visuals are impressive, far better than long-standing and newer networks. Tom Zanner and Kato Kaelin are the spirit and soul of the show, which explains their impressive connections and high end guests. I wish the best in life for Tom and Kato.

[@jnacyber8128]

This 3 part series has been nothing short of incredible! Thank you to all involved. And RIP to the two murder victims.

[@82gmccaballero]

Always a treat to hear from Mr. Lange, I definitely need to check out his book! Kato said in a previous episode something to be effect of 30 years going by in the blink of an eye, it really feels like that today. Thank you for the commentary and insight. Rest in peace Nicole and Ron. ❤️🤍💙

[@nealxl6256]

Tom Lange should be a regular on the show, even for the non-OJ shows

[@barbarabrown733]

Thanks to all the participants on this series. I've really enoyed it! Wish I could meet Tom Lange and shake his hand!

[@DeborahShuemaker]

Me too👍

[@nala3038]

Would love to have Tom Lange “arrest me” lol

[@DeborahShuemaker]

@@nala3038 Me too 👍. Or especially Mark Furnan 😁

[@Romulan2469]

@@nala3038 Wow really? 😂😂

[@markmac2206]

@@nala3038 sounds like you want a strip search. 😉

[@ColleenD78]

Soooo fascinating to listen to these wonderful guests tell their stories and share intimate details. Thanks so much!

[@cryptocatherine6103]

Tom, I love your channel! I just bought Tom Lange's book, Evidence Dismissed, and I'm looking forward to reading it. Thank you for all of the great videos - you and Kato are a great team!

[@TZScandal]

Thank you!

[@Romulan2469]

I'm about to place an order as well! I heard Lange is also working on a new book, is that right Tom Z?

[@raineyj560]

​@@Romulan2469talk bout milking a case

[@Romulan2469]

@@raineyj560 We can talk about you not knowing how to spell!

[@robincook4349]

I just got it also and can't put it down. I remember everything about this and watched everything, funny I was a police dispatcher for 42 years and I never knew a lot of the evidence handling that was required.

[@nala3038]

One thing I never understood was why the chase never came up in the trial.

[@gametimegallery7661]

Agree 100%. There was so much behavioral evidence that should have presented in the criminal trial.

[@Romulan2469]

I can answer that. Both Marcia and Chris thought that this could be used to show OJ as denying guilt and the LAPD attempting to "go after him" and they thought that would play into the defence LAPD conspiracy frame up theory. To be honest that is complete nonsense as it was solid evidence that OJ was guilty and who cares if he was denying guilt as that is the reason they were having a trial in the first place. Marcia and Chris were way out of their depth in this case, the DA couldn't have picked two more useless attorneys to try this case.

[@billsnyder4054]

Marcia Clark is the one who kept it out. She made a ton of bad decisions throughout the case. You don't run if you are innocent. Best evidence of his guilt and she sat on it

[@UghDroppingLoads]

Because the prosecution was dumb and decided to leave out a ton of things.

[@joshatchley2145]

There could’ve been a high def , 3D videotape of the murders. Complete with Oj sitting there with a giant “I DID IT” tattoo on his forehead , playing pinochle when the police arrived. And this jury STILL would’ve found not guilty, for fear of the city burning down had they not smh.

[@BetweenStations77]

Best Simpson case content on youtube. Thanks Tom.

[@rosemarycortez5748]

Love these O.J. Podcasts! Tom and Kato you guys are king of the Podcasts! Second to none! I look forward to it every week! Can’t wait to see who your next guests will be! Peace and love to Nicole and Ron. We will never forget the terrible loss of two beautiful people. ❤

[@TZScandal]

Thank you! Much appreciated!

[@KeizeShow]

This case is so bizarre that there was actually a witness in Brentwood with the same name as the detective “Tom Lange”. And he claimed to have been the last person to see Nicole Brown alive - aside from the killer(s) - while walking his dog. He claimed he locked eyes with Nicole while giving his dog a verbal command. The defense chose not to have him testify because he claimed to have seen a white Ford F-350 truck parked outside Nicole’s while she was outside. He supposedly owned several Ford trucks & could’ve reliably identified the differences between the various models. He also claimed to have seen a man - not black - crouched outside of her gate as well. Never ending rabbit hole…

[@Romulan2469]

Yes that is the eyewitness Tom Lang (without the e at the end). He definitely should have been called to testify. Hope Tom Z can get him on.

[@Jen-f4d]

Tom Lange is just awesome. has a good voice for narrative. He sounds like he was an elite detective. He is able to describe in detail, moment by moment, & take you back in time almost like you were there. Love hearing every minute! Everyone on this episode is great! Wow, good episode guys!

[@pohukai3216]

Kato (Brian) is exactly everything I remember him from at Nicolet. I've always defended him against the bad publicity that he didn't deserve during the trial. It was a horrible situation that he was thrust into and did the best he could.

[@Romulan2469]

Kato has really come such a long way since he was OJ's guesthouse resident. From all the unnecessary criticism he took as being a freeloader and trying to protect OJ to showing how great of a person he really is, and the fact that he has always been honest, sincere and humble about his experiences is awe inspiring. Kato and Tom Z, you guys are legends, I hope this show goes on forever!

[@MustangMike012]

OJ was guilty and nobody will ever convince me otherwise.

[@RONderluck]

He was found not guilty. What is your problem? Are you sad that your Mavericks are getting killed by the mostly black Celtics? Awe.

[@Piolin333]

​@@RONderluckThe Mavericks are mostly black too. I see you're one are those people that seem to like make everything about race. Maybe even like some of the guys I work with that like to use race as an excuse to do things they know are wrong and try to get away with it and then if you confront them them you are considered racist 😉

[@TheBeatlesMan96]

@@RONderluckThat don’t mean shit 😂 all the dna evidence that wasn’t used in the trial places oj at the crime scene. Tell me exactly how Oj’s blood and the victims were found mixed together at the crime scene? Let me guess you think it was planted.

[@RONderluck]

@@TheBeatlesMan96 You do realize that you’re wasting your time/life responding to a troll.

[@Chosen1-q1v]

Thats because you did nothing but listen to the mainstream media when you came home from work. The media never told the truth, they never covered the relevant facts in the trial that the defense presented and they hardly reported the testimony from the police. You didn't watch the trial either. There's undeniable facts that the police planted evidence, it was PROVEN, scientifically proven and not only that but it was also circumstantially backed up. You can't just selectively choose what facts you like and ignore other facts. The defense more than proved wrongdoing on the part of The LAPD, which gives more than enough reasonable doubt. If you're gonna reply to me and try and counter what I'm saying, you need to have facts to prove me wrong. I have more than enough facts for me to confidently debate this. You think I'm bluffing? Well try me then IF you DO KNOW that the police planted evidence and conveniently ignore that, than you're not being genuine and there's no point of debating me. If you can't agree on the facts and won't concede, well it shows bad character on your part. Black America felt he was innocent and many were upset about Rodney King. White America praises authority and the establishment. Back then, white America would never accept that the police would do something like they did. There's clear bias in both groups and they could never get over it. But based on the facts, it just so happens that black America chose the correct side, regardless of their bias. It just amazes me after all these years, OJ Simpson even after death, still lives in the heads of white America rent free. You prove black Americas point that you didn't care about Rodney King but when OJ was set free, your whole world fell apart. It's just amazing to me. You all rush to judgement and just will not sit down and look at the facts with an open mind. You're too conditioned, you arrogantly think your world view is correct and nobody can tell you people anything. If the police came out and admitted that they planted evidence, you all still wouldn't believe it..

[@Romulan2469]

Tom Z, we need to get Tom Lange back every month or something. He's pretty much your best guest on the show to date and he has so many other cases we need to hear about, as well as his PI cases and Vietnam war experiences. When is Tom Lange coming back in the studio Tom Z?

[@djangoknight]

Bro is gonna have the McDonald’s worker that made OJ’s burgers that night, on the pod.

[@Augfordpdoggie]

i would be interested

[@djangoknight]

@@Augfordpdoggie absolutely!!

[@TZScandal]

People would watch if I did!

[@Romulan2469]

I get your point and I wouldn't mind at all. Tom Z has been trying hard to get as many high profile witnesses involved in this case to appear but understandably, a lot of them don't want to go there for whatever reasons, bad experiences, bad publicity from the OJ case, wanting to maintain their privacy after being in the spotlight etc. I think you will find that a lot of people would still watch even if you had the guy flipping burgers at Mac D's, or OJ's housemaid Rosa Lopez, or his golf buddies, or the hotel owner at Chicago etc. You see the case fascinates people beyond who the guest is, but yes, we all want to see more high profile witnesses appear. I'm hoping Tom Z can get the bullseye which will be Mark Fuhrman. This OJ series won't be complete without Mark Fuhrman. Hope he can pull it off.

[@micheller7509]

@@TZScandal you need to try to get AC, OJ is dead now maybe he will. and also marcus allen

[@Augfordpdoggie]

Love this channel and Love hearing Tom Lange. Please let us ask him questions...ok me. Please let me ask him questions

[@anthonyd6370]

i agree

[@Romulan2469]

I would love to see an interactive show as well where we can throw in a few questions, especially a live show on Tom Zenner Scandal. Give it some time, I am sure Tom Z will make it happen.

[@markmac2206]

question #1 "Detective Lange, why did you talk OJ out of offing himself in the Bronco?" seriously though ive always wondered if that wouldve changed the public perception of his guilt or innocence.

[@JesusChristisLord316]

Hooray for Moray. Hope he wins that Emmy!

[@DavidNeale-d9y]

This feels like it was just yesterday poor kato famous for all the wrong reasons.he is very respectful thank god

[@Shoottothrillll]

Love listening to these while at work. Amazing. Thank you 🇦🇺

[@Whenwefight49]

Great show! I enjoyed Geraldo's coverage of the Simpson Trial. He used to have the best discussion panels back in the day. Maybe have him on as we commemorate the 30th anniversary. Thank you for your hard work.

[@TrojanGoddess56]

Baseball legend Willie Mays just passed away. When OJ Simpson was growing up and getting himself into trouble with other teens in his San Francisco Potrero Hills neighborhood, it was Willie Mays who mentored him, helped him to stay out of trouble, and who showed OJ that he could succeed, as he, Mays, had. OJ's first wife Marguerite, who also grew up in that area, along with Al Cowlings, had said that OJ was a badass back then.

[@karenbrack3212]

Great episode - love learning new things about the case & also how you run everything so respectfully!

[@glennweaver3014]

Another excellent installment in this fascinating three part series. Great work guys.

[@JustBrowsing830]

Great job, guys, as always! 👍🏼

[@corrinafrench7709]

This has been such a great 3 part series! How it captured so many of us at the time and still does today is unbelievable. Thank you Tom, Kato and all the guests that have appeared to share their memories and perspectives.

[@Sweetie_PieLo]

Best of the best, I love Tom Lange, he’s got to be the best cop I’ve ever listened to. He recalls every detail perfectly it’s mind blowing how he remembers this stuff 30 years later

[@PhilDykshoorn]

Have been following this channel for a few weeks, the topics are very interesting. l can recall that Friday night very clearly watching it unfold in Toronto, Canada, live on the networks.

[@TZScandal]

Thank you! Hope you subscribe and keep watching.

[@phatmetalhead]

Tom, Lange is the best and the show is amazing too

[@DERISNER]

Jim Moret had a pair of those "ugly ass" shoes? And they were also size 12?? AND he and his kids were at that recital??? Damn. That`s just...incredible. Another strange coincidence -- for me, at least: I served with LAPD officer Bob Riske (the first officer on the scene at Bundy) when he was in the Navy stationed in San Diego. Just crazy.

[@markmac2206]

Riske shouldve been a more important witness along with the dozen other officers that were willing to testify they only found 1 glove at Bundy long before Fuhrman got there. they also saw the blood drops there long before the sample of OJs blood was collected.

[@cmz1277]

Another great episode. Tom Lange for president

[@DeborahShuemaker]

Luv Tom Lange 👍 Excellent detective!

[@Romulan2469]

Same! He's the best of the best, a true credit to the LAPD. He served in the elite Robbery Homicide Unit, Special Section, a team of the very best of the best detectives in LAPD. He's also a Vietnam war veteran as well, who earned a Bronze Star in Vietnam as a sergeant in the United States Marine Corps.

[@DeborahShuemaker]

@@Romulan2469 Wow very impressive no wonder I like him. I cannot remember his partner’s name he is good too. I think he passed away from cancer. I want to get Lange’s books !

[@Romulan2469]

@@DeborahShuemaker Indeed! I am planning to buy Lange's books as well, starting with "Evidence Dismissed". His partner's name was Phil Vannatter, another great cop who sadly passed away in 2012. It would have been great to have him appear as a guest on this show as well. My understanding of Vannatter was that he was a very nice, straightforward and friendly guy who like Lange served his department with distinction. Vannatter also served in the military when he spent thirteen months in Korea, serving as a Spec-5 and working in army communications. He is sadly missed. It's a real tragedy that the defense had the gall to accuse Vannatter of planting OJ's blood at the crime scene, a highly respected 30 year veteran of the LAPD who was about to retire and who had not a single complaint against him in 30 years. Cochran really was a slime ball for ruining Vannatter's reputation wasn't he? I want to read Fuhrman's book "Murder in Brentwood". I have a huge amount of respect for all of the cops who worked this case. Unlike a lot of folks I don't hate Fuhrman, I respect Fuhrman because he did his job properly that night however I don't respect him pleading the 5th leaving the door open to the entire LAPD being corrupt, that was my biggest issue with Fuhrman. The tapes were part of a screenplay and fictional, something a lot of people forget when they point the finger of racism at Fuhrman. Fuhrman was not a racist. He helped free a black man from prison who was wrongly convicted of murder.

[@Romulan2469]

@@DeborahShuemaker Can I ask your opinion on the OJ case? I have always believed that there were two killers, OJ and an accomplice. I could write a whole book on this case, perhaps I should lol! What do you think about the two killer theory?

[@DeborahShuemaker]

@@Romulan2469 Sure. I think OJ blacked out when did the murders. That is why he ran in his SUV afraid had doubts that he might have done it. Most likely he was high on drugs . But I saw a special by Chris Tood on Utube he said it was Tom that was connected to the mob that was with OJ. Thank you for letting me share.

[@carolinehowell5362]

Such an awesome, detailed podcast! Hard to imagine this today and the impact of social media!

[@TheHoff9]

I still remember how much David Gascon….. Police Public/Press Info commander was mad and trying to be professional at the press conference when the press were firing questions at him left and right and speaking over each other….it was chaos! I can still remember where I was on the bronco chase like I can remember where I was on 9/11

[@DERISNER]

I`ve said it before and it bears repeating: Kato is awesome on many levels. Just as cool as they come.

[@Livefreeordie-182]

Kato's why i listen to these...he cheers me up 😊

[@sinistervids71]

Does Kato have an original Picasso behind him? lol

[@Romulan2469]

Kato is the man! Amazing guy!

[@MarcVado]

Tom Lange is so cool old skool. I could listen to him all day. He makes Colombo look like a boy scout.

[@Ihatekommietube]

😂😂😂thts funny as hell 👍

[@ameliareaganwright2758]

Tom, Your videos are so informative and appreciated!

[@Romulan2469]

Hey Tom Z, can we get just Tom Lange back on with you and Kato to do some shows on the following topics? 1. His other serial murder cases (especially Wonderland) 2. His opinions on other well known cases where there are some unanswered questions (e.g. Idaho murders, JonBenet Ramsey, Amanda Knox, The Black Dahlia, The Zodiac Killer, Jack The Ripper etc) 3. His Vietnam war experiences 4. His PI cases after leaving the LAPD 5. His memories of Phil Vannatter

[@DeborahShuemaker]

I liked Vannatter 👍

[@Romulan2469]

@@DeborahShuemaker Same! Did you know that Vannatter grew up on a farm in the heart of Appalachia? He was the son of a coal miner who had died of black lung disease in 1951 and the youngest of six children, Vannatter helped his mother run the farm until he was fourteen. I think working on a farm, doing honest hard work in the early years of his life taught him humility and humbleness. He wasn't your rough and tough average Joe cop, he was a man of the people, down to Earth, decent and kind. It showed in all of his interviews how good of a person he was.

[@DeborahShuemaker]

@@Romulan2469 I agree 👍🌟thank you for sharing I find it very interesting to know more about detective Vanatter !!

[@DeborahShuemaker]

@@Romulan2469 I meant to say Charlie not Tom. Charlie was OJs helper that’s a possibility too!

[@Romulan2469]

@@DeborahShuemaker He was a legend. It's just a tragedy the defense dragged his name through the dirt and he never got enough of a chance to share his side of the story. I mean here's a guy who spent 25 years on the force with no complaints, worked hundreds of cases like Lange did, served his country in the Korean war, and this is the kind of rap he gets from some slick lying weasel of an attorney like Cochran? That's why I want Tom Lange, who was his partner for 5 years and one of his best friends to speak more about his relationship with Phil Vannatter, what Phil would have wanted people to remember about the case, Phil's exact actions when returning to Rockingham to book in OJ's blood etc.

[@richierugs6544]

amazing that there are millions of people who think OJ is innocent

[@Romulan2469]

The case still divides America to this day. To think OJ is innocent means you have to throw away all the common sense you have and believe the entire LAPD came together at the last moment to in a last minute conspiracy to frame OJ Simpson. You have to believe that this conspiracy was hatched at the very last minute as most of those cops and criminalists didn't know each other before this case. Also for some twisted reason, the entire LAPD are racist and want to frame OJ (the most popular football player at the time, a guy who the LAPD loved as officers would come by his house daily for autographs before the murders) for this double murder. Let's also not forget that for Fuhrman to plant a glove at Rockingham he would have to have spoken to all of these officers at the crime scene who hadn't worked with him before to either agree to steal a glove from Bundy and give it to him, or, turn a blind eye for Fuhrman to steal the glove and they would falsify the police report to say only one glove was there. Let's also assume that all of these officers are happy to be sentenced to death for perverting the course of justice in a high profile double homicide case, because (here's the clincher!), he was black and all of those things are less important than framing a black man for murder. Those on the "OJ is innocent" bandwagon throw logic and common sense out of the window.

[@nala3038]

@@Romulan2469one of the best comments of the year!

[@christopherstevenrankin]

Well, I don't really know the truth.

[@TheTruthHeals]

“Innocent” is a powerful word. OJ physically abused his wife and considered it a family matter… not exactly “innocent,” but that doesn’t automatically mean he murdered Nicole and Ron. I personally witnessed overwhelming evidence that proves to me that he did not do it… and the FBI agrees with me, regardless of whatever the LAPD has always said. It’s understandable that Detectives Lange and Vannatter always strived for total control (& credit) for such a high profile case, but at what cost? They WANTED OJ to be the killer… that’s why they never followed up with the household that Ron repeatedly called on his cellphone on the night of the murders. I was the last person to speak to Ron alive (aside from the killers). Why didn’t the LAPD use Ron’s cellphone records to determine Nicole’s and Ron’s time of death?! Ron was quickly dropping off those glasses on his way to picking me up in Marina del Rey… but, of course, he never made it. They were murdered around 10:15 pm as the prosecution claimed, NOT 10:35 pm as both the defense and LAPD claim.

[@christopherstevenrankin]

​@TheTruthHeals I agree with you. Just because he was known to have been a spousal abuser didn't necessarily make him a murderer. Too many inconsistencies on the part of the prosecutions case against Simpson. Just because he ran from the police, didn't make him guilty. I was in high school back then, and it didn't add up, and all these years later it still doesn't for me. People do strange things for strange reasons. Maybe her murder was karma coming back to OJ for years of being a bad husband,? She was murdered in a horrible way, he was being accused of it...and he flipped out? You just never know what goes on in someone's head. The timeline didn't add up against OJ's guilt. The jury made the right decision. People wanna talk ill of the jury, have really no clue what your duties are as a juror. For people who say "he was a batterer...he was guilty"...would not be a good juror. Most people say that. I never knew these people, never met them. I just know what I've read, and I use some common sense and 46 years of living on this planet.

[@1966spyderco]

Tom Lange is an Icon. Great show! Edit:Does anyone know that Harvey Levin saw OJ the night before the murders in a limo at Nicoles residence in the back alley and OJ took off when he knew he was being followed. The limo ended up at Rockingham and OJ got out of the limo. Something to this effect. Anymore on that? Harvey told this story and I had never heard this ever. Crazy

[@brandih9802]

Harvey said it happened after the acquittal.

[@1966spyderco]

@@brandih9802 ok thx for the clarification. That makes sense

[@brandih9802]

@@1966spyderco that documentary was pretty interesting, though!

[@kellylee5574]

Love your show been watching all the episodes thank you

[@johnmilner6484]

Another GREAT show!...wanted to know if the gun was really loaded? Was that ever verified?

[@christopherstevenrankin]

I would like to hear from Tom Lange, what was said in that minute exchange between OJ, AC, and Jason Simpson, when they àrrived at Rockingham? Tom was on the phone with OJ and probably heard it all? 🤔

[@Stacyo22]

You do a great great job of hosting. I think I've watched all of the o.j. ones ! Good Lord ...just like I watched the trial live back In the 90's!!!!!

[@vikings844]

Tom Lange and his partner were amazing to watch on the stand during the trial! Real seasoned pros that did an amazing job collecting evidence! I'll never forget K-Train on the stand! During a serious moment during his testimony went he lightened the mood and tension with funny lines once in a while was hilarious! When he said him and Oj weren't going after the same roles I lost it!😂😂

[@ToiletClogger1945]

one of my new favorite channels

[@thamilton007]

Excellent show, thank you🌼

[@MrDuds1984]

6/17/94 ESPN Doc about that day is amazing it wasn’t just OJ so much happens that day, NY Rangers Stanley Cup parade, Opening Day of the World Cup in Chicago and second round of the US Open (Arnold Palmer’s last round, starred with OJ in commercials). Amazing day

[@markmac2206]

and an NBA Finals game during the chase.

[@matthewfisher-sp5fq]

I like that picture behind Kato 😊

[@Romulan2469]

I'm glad someone else noticed what I saw before lol! Yep, Kato has good taste for sure! 😉

[@TrojanGoddess56]

Great interview as always. Kato, Tom Lange, Jill Shively, Zoey Tur, Jim Moret, Allan Park, and the others involved in the murders, whose lives changed because of it, belong to a special fraternity of people that 30 years has shaped. Kato is very insightful and reflective in recalling the events surrounding OJ and the murders 30 years ago. Please do a show about Nicole's Akita dog, Kato, who led neighbors to the crime scene. Nicole's parents became his new owners, after Nicole was gone, and he passed away in 2003, or 2004.

[@Romulan2469]

I have to get Tom Lange's new book "The Dirty Business of Murder" when it comes out. The serial killer cases are the most interesting of them all. Tom Z, you HAVE to get Tom Lange back on to discuss those serial killer cases once you have finished covering the OJ saga.

[@sandrazed6089]

Just starting to watch and looking forward to this. Did you try to get Greta Van Sustern? She too, lived it live every night on CNN!

[@kellywark5149]

An absolutely fascinating show. I want to thank Detective Tom Lange for His Outstanding Service.💙 This is definitely Epic and an Integral Part of History. As someone who has worked and championed for Victims of Domestic Violence for years and Human Trafficking Victims I would like to note what was learned about IPV aka Intimate Partner Violence 30 yesrs on. One thing is Violence Against Women crosses every racial and socio economic line without exception. In My opinion 30 years on awareness of this issue has grown however #Femicide is still going strong sadly. We are trying to educate and prevent these tragedies by enacting stronger Laws against Coercive Control and Misogynist Terrorism. As always this is about Victims and the enormous impact such Crimes have on Loved Ones, Law Enforcement all First Responders and Communities. My Thoughts and Prayers to All who have been impacted by these Crimes.🙏🙏💔💔 #ENDVAWG.💜

[@vickitaylor680]

“The police are actively looking for OJ Simpson” There was a loud gasp by the reporters.

[@bellestar777]

I will never look at the man zoey as a woman EVER AND I DO NOT CARE WHO IS OFFENDED.

[@MRPERFECT_79]

OK KAREN

[@oni_goroshi]

That's the icing on the cake for this whole freak show.

[@KeizeShow]

It would be interesting to hear Kato respond to Chapter 6 in the “If I Did It” book. OJ claims Kato asked him, “Why is Nicole is so f*cking mad at me?” OJ also claimed Kato had a playboy magazine & showed OJ a girl he could hook him up with.

[@Thisishoweroll]

The Bronco from the chase is now in a Museum in Pigeon Forge, TN. My husband and I were there a few months ago and saw it. It’s roped off so not sitting it, unfortunately! It was definitely a surreal moment. I was 6 months pregnant with my daughter, Nicole, in a bowling alley watching the chase live. No one was bowling…everyone was glued to the TV.

[@carolinehowell5362]

Jim looks a bit like Dustin Hoffman … Glad I’m getting know Kato through podcast. So real and genuine!

[@SueProv]

I watched part of the slow chas in Paris if you can imagine. It was surreal. We didn't know about the muders till the chase.

[@Romulan2469]

It's amazing how it made global news headlines around the world! It was truly one of the most iconic moments of the 20th century!

[@SueProv]

​@@Romulan2469 It was. My brothers and Mom and I watched for half an hour. It was just after the 50th anniversary of D Day. We didn't think he did it. That changed pretty quickly after we got home.

[@sneekn5983]

I was in front of that chase, I was what the hell is all these people stopped on the south bound of the 405, I looked in my rearview and saw a sea of lights and the Bronco, got off on Wilshire going to see The Crow in Westwood, counted 17 helicopters...

[@michelleCanadaGoose]

Love Kato!! Seems like a very sweet man with a standup moral character.. funny as hell too. Fan from Canada 🇨🇦

[@tomdallas3690]

Rom Lange and Jim Moret are great. Both guys are guys whom you want to here from when something serious is going down. Solid and honest. Would love to hear behind the scenes stories and tidbits from both of these guys about all great stories and crimes they reported on or investigated. They can team up and write a book and I will buy it.

[@thatguy2372]

Pablo Fenjves would be an interesting guest for you guys

[@Romulan2469]

Yep I mentioned that name to Tom Z a few shows before. I definitely agree with you! Pablo would be an ace. He was both a witness at the trial and the ghostwriter to the If I Did It book. Also he seems like a guy who is willing to talk to the media unlike some of the others who Tom Z has been unable to reach.

[@lizfletcher7709]

WOW! At this exact moment, I am literally at the “El Toro Y” where Zoey Tur picks up the Bronco!

[@TZScandal]

Crazy! Thanks for the comment

[@lizfletcher7709]

@reel-justice interesting information that I’ve never heard. I’d have to go back to review the interview with Zoey in order to refresh my memory if the helicopter was CHP or Duke (OCSD) that discovered the Bronco at the Y. Ascension cemetery is only about 2-1/2 miles from the 5 which would only take seconds to reach by helicopter. 17th/5 isn’t too much further north (+/- 10 mi) and in my opinion, coincides with her story timeline of “flipping the switch” to go to network. My confusion hits with the when’s of who first got cameras on the Bronco because S. Anaheim/Lincoln is north of 17th and, of course, the Y. I don’t know if I have seen the NBC / Dirk footage.

[@brandih9802]

But do you have a “Go Juice” sign?

[@susanlifton1701]

Wow so far this episode is riveting. I was only 22 when the Bronco chase happened. I was shopping in my neighborhood with my dad at the time in New York. My dad and I watched the chase unfold to the point where we were glued to our tv set when we go home. We just couldn't believe what was going on at the time because it was so surreal back then

[@lindahill9980]

Thanks Tom

[@rogerbeck3560]

Please have Tom Lange back on to talk about his book "Evidence Dismissed" in detail.

[@DeborahShuemaker]

Tom Z. I really like your videos and your enthusiasm makes it more interesting keeps my attention 👍👍

[@TZScandal]

Thanks! Appreciate it!

[@bretthollywoodsshow6744]

Love your content but Knicks V Rockets was actually a great drama filled NBA finals : Went 7 games

[@TZScandal]

good point. I forgot. Props to Hakeem and Rudy T

[@bretthollywoodsshow6744]

Keep up the good work it’s an awesome podcast . I legitimately promote it on my Instagram it’s so good

[@audreyann1975]

I absolutely love Tom Lange. I love listening to him. The detectives in this case were bad ass. The people who found Nicoles Akita, Kato, would be a great guest for the show. We would definitely watch.

[@dananicole3969]

Nothing beats the drama of the oj case

[@bizzyslivovitz7306]

Also the Dirty John case. I used to work in downtown LA and if that girl had come in our office, I would have said, "You want ____ Casting down the hall. You're auditioning for Gidget, right?" And she would have replied, "No, I'm auditioning for zombie killer!" She said enthusiastically, "I used the zombie kill shot!," regarding stabbing Dirty John in the eye. If you haven't heard the story yet, when Christopher Goffard's story was put on the cover of the Sunday Times _____ section, there were 10M downloads of the podcast, read by him, in the next six weeks. (I just looked it up to make sure I'm not exaggerating and it said the podcast has been downloaded 50M times.) They told Walt Disney the reason Pinocchio, Bambi and Fantasia hadn't done as well as Snow White was you have to have a beautiful girl in danger, and with "Sleeping Beauty" Disney rose above teetering on the verge of bankruptcy. But it seems to be the same with Nicole Brown and Terra Newell, the cute little, blond California girl, who speaks with a little Minnie Mouse voice. Nicole should have gone around in a burka and people would have let her go to college and get an interesting job.

[@reyrey343]

I was there. Not kidding, I was on the pathway where the glove was found and it is quite a story. It would be a very long post for me to describe it and most probably would not read a post that long. But this is incredibly important, the PATTERN of the noise Kato described in the trial pounding his fist on the wood witness stand that he heard. It wasn't just one bang. It was THREE separate sounds--- thump...pause, thump, thump. You have to account for how those three bangs occurred. Actually being back there, I'm almost positive how that happened. I wish there was a way I could describe it in a short post but I can't.

[@MyKingdomForAK9]

Your long post would be fully appreciated, especially yours, an on-the-scene account. 👍

[@Devon6024]

Please explain how the three bangs occurred.

[@76biggdogg]

Tell us your story!

[@reyrey343]

@@MyKingdomForAK9 Respectfully 4 requests to tell my detailed story is not an overwhelming majority of the 14,000 viewers here lol. Anyway I would also want it to be well written and interesting to read so it would take me some time. I think I have a solution. I would write the details of my 3:00 am venture on an upload site and with the approval of Tom and Kato, on the appropriate new future video, I'll provide the link to the story and anybody who would want to read it can and it won't take up any bandwidth here.

[@donnamccarthy7205]

We all want to read it and know what really went on

[@MiMisTreasures]

I wish everyone could see and hear the REAL Kato Kaelin - so genuine, smart, kind and funny. Kato, you didn’t deserve what Marcia Clark and the media did to you during the trial. You’re such a class act and I love listening to you. And Tom Lang - could listen to his stories all day long. Two of the good guys in this tragic saga.

[@robertacurry5147]

Fantastic series!

[@DAGDRUM53]

Judge Ito would make a great guest.

[@ileanahernandez1709]

He was a terrible judge!

[@citizenchug3138]

Nah, Judge Ito never liked the limelight….

[@DAGDRUM53]

@@citizenchug3138 The dancing ones did.

[@Romulan2469]

For sure! Only problem with Lance Ito is that he has chosen not to do any interviews for 30 years about the trial, so not sure if Tom Z will ever get him to come on, but would love to see that happen!

[@micheller7509]

@@Romulan2469 maybe he's not allowed to? there's probably some rule about judges

[@mollynixon2144]

Nobody wanted to believe O. J. Was capable of butchering Nicole and Ron!!!! We didn’t “know” O. J. was so obsessed and possessed in his personal life! Really sad and unforgettable!

[@Jennifermcintyre]

As if I needed more reason to HATE oj. Bringing attention to the horrific morally bankrupt, scourge of our society kardashians 🤢. Gotta love Chris being Nicole’s best friend and Chris’s husband defending her murderer. Completely disgusting.

[@amywilkins543]

Great Show!!!

[@NTJ891]

Always wanted to get a Big Mac with Kato

[@jaimemicelotti8539]

I was a teenager on summer break watching the chase with my mom

[@michaelrocky4571]

Two thumbs up, love how you get all the key players together. Was wondering if you have studied into the two Broncos? AC's and OJ's white Bronco's. Watched a new documentary with Havey Levin's and he has something really interesting in his Documentary about the possibility of AC and OJ switching the two Broncos after the murders. I always wondered how OJ could have cleaned up his Bronco with no time to waste with getting a shower and all then going to the airport..... but go watch Harvey's idea. Thanks!

[@robincook4349]

if you read Tom Langes book the bronco was not cleaned up there was blood all over.

[@michaelrocky4571]

@@robincook4349 Yes but only spots of blood here and there, there would have been tons of blood shooting on him with the strikes on arteries. I have read the book and not disputing anyone but also looking for more ideas. I think Havey has a good angle also.

[@catherinekittykat]

Glad the mention of two exact matching Broncos, cause I must have forgotten since back then and I keep getting confused lately when mentions of Broncos and trying to brush it off. 😂😂😂 Cookoo me. But kinda weird to have friends buy the same vehicle down to the color. Must be somee psychology to that. Hmmm? Great show, again! Thank you all! And about serial killers which seem to be way too many in this world...scary creepy...But I wonder if people who are serial killers join the military to carry out their desires. It's kinda mind bending that soldiers are worshipped for murdering. War is horror. Wonder what Tom thinks about all that since he is working on serial killer book. I feel such guilt that in the seventies I had an encounter with The Golden State Killer in a parking lot and could have helped catch him with description of him and car and more gross stuff, and evidence he handed me to toss for him. I was in my teens and didn't watch the news and didn't understand what was happening. Now that he was caught it all came back and I've been sick since that I could have stopped further torture and murder. 🤮🤮🤮

[@alicassidy8913]

Rest In Peace Nicole and Ron

[@Romulan2469]

Absolutely and thank you for bringing attention to the memory of the victims in the comments section, very rare these days.

[@lisaa8795]

Thirty years ago - June 17. Watching the NBA finals from Chicago, disappointed that the Bulls weren't a part of them that year. A white Bronco cuts in and we looked at each other in astonishment. OJ did it, we were sure at that point like at no time before during that week, of his declaration of guilt; who flees? Unbelievable how quickly time flies.