Why Omnipotent Characters Improve Fantasy Worlds

[@narrow7091]

Short correction, Death from the Castlevania show only gasses himself up as death. In reality, he's just a spirit that feeds on things dying.

[@CreoSolus]

I see someone just comment that, makes a lot more sense now. Thanks

[@OccultistResearcher]

@@CreoSolus now death from the games on the other hand...

[@mc.builder8267]

@@OccultistResearcher can still be argued as being a very powerful spirit or even avatar of death, while not being death itself. Can be argued either way I think. On the one hand, the lore and games make it very clear that this is DEATH with a capital D. On the other hand, things can still die after you defeat it. Ultimately the cannon is whatever the game makers say it is. and I'm pretty sure that they say the game Death is the "DEATH".

[@pikadragon2783]

@@OccultistResearcher The best explanation of who that death is is probably the Lords of Shadow Series. Basically a necromancer so powerfull that he can return from being killed and can impersonate the idea of death himself to some extend. But ultimately not an personification of the concept itself like Death from the DiskWorld. It's kinda obvious in the way how "killing" Draculas Death has no consequences like people no longer dying etc.

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@pikadragon2783 Like how Mannimarco becomes a God of Necromancers, but Molag Bal is still THE Daedric Prince of stuff like that

[@AntiComical]

That intro was too fire NOT to be noticed 🔥🔥🔥 💯💯

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks man 100%

[@TyBe-uo4ud]

@@CreoSolus it made me subscibe; you have creativity. btw, have u seen frieren?

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks, yes it was my first time I've watched an anime in a while. Really enjoyed it.

[@hurtinghydras9736]

I saw the ghost from destiny in there

[@bipbap300]

@@hurtinghydras9736same

[@ZarHakkar]

My favorite kind of omnipotent character is the one that sees the world as their entertainment. Trickster, messes with people, but ultimately chill and reasonable.

[@CreoSolus]

Same, like chaotic but neutral good.

[@preposteroussvideos]

Sheogorath

[@906robot9]

​@@preposteroussvideos Happy Chaos

[@BookWyrmOnAString]

Flowey

[@CantEmPayTaxes]

And he gets defeated by the very being he gave power to. Lamo how.

[@amog8202]

To be fair, Bill Cipher's whole thing is being weird, unusual, and comical, it makes sense that you can beat him, because it doesn't make much sense. Probably the most well-executed omnipotent villain ive seen

[@CreoSolus]

Agreed, I'm just salty because I wanted him to win XD

[@azrielhabal6428]

@@CreoSolus this is so real

[@arcticpossi_schw1siantuntija42]

@@CreoSolus I thought he was the good guy before I watched the actual show, because I only saw the weirdmageddon opening on YT

[@zillva]

Bill isn't omnipotent though. Not even close. If he cannot do absolutely everything he wants to whenever he wants to, he's not omnipotent.

[@Hifuutorian]

His goal is also something he can't just outlast or wait for either. It's pretty immediate, and he's _just_ full of himself enough to be tricked when pursuing it.

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

The thing about the Lich in adventure time is that it has won in many other universes and succeeded in ending life in many of them. The Lich is a being that exists in every universe throughout the multiverse as such even if he is defeated in one universe it does not stop its plans for ending all life throughout the multiverse. Defeating the lich only slows it down. It is not enough to stop it. You can't kill the lich as it always will come back. Even after it was killed it managed to take over death and almost ended all life again. The lich is the physical embodiment of the end, it can't be stopped only delayed thus it still maintains its omnipotent status even if it looses as you know that the lich will return. Plus the main reason Fin can defeat it several times is because he is the reincarnation of a cosmic commit entity. The strategy you mentioned of waiting for Finn to die does not work as reincarnation is a thing in adventure time.

[@CreoSolus]

Yeah you're right it doesn't work. I quite like when they show the death that completes his task of ending life and now just feels emptiness and lack of purpose.

[@bestaround3323]

​@CreoSolus I disliked it. The Lich is not the type to despair after winning. When there is nothing to kill he simply shuts down

[@XinDseal]

@@bestaround3323 Yeah, they kind of ruined it, what could've been a great character. The plot could've still worked if he simply was asking golb to sent him to universes he didn't win to continue his job, but they kind of make him some sort of simp for golb.

[@mohammadtausifrafi8277]

@@bestaround3323 Could he try to destroy himself as the last existing being?

[@daniellin1726]

Funny thing, that in the Yuusha genre, the hero and demon lord always exist as a pair by some cosmic law. Where there is a demon lord, there is always a hero who has the potential to oppose it.

[@hulmhochberg8129]

The death in castlevanica is not actually death. It just pretends to be.

[@CreoSolus]

Ah that makes a bit more sense, I should of probably researched a bit more about the lore.

[@whyu_monarch]

@@CreoSolustrevor does exposition about it before the fight but its easy to miss

[@100StepProgram]

Isn’t he just a vampire that feeds on death instead of blood? Ancient and strong af but not really comparable to real death entities

[@EvaneCrow]

@@100StepProgram a spirit - not a vampire

[@CantEmPayTaxes]

Death scythe good tho

[@barry5]

A fun way that mahnwa often do their omnipotent/demigod characters is "plausibility". Basically, gods are stopped from interfering with reality too much, and if they want to do things outside of what is "plausible" (like interfering with the laws of physics, just straight up killing someone or descending onto earth"), they have to spend plausibility to achieve it or face a penalty, usually them getting injured. Basically, anytime they try to do something that isnt "realistic" the universe pushes back and they can circumvent this using their built up faith. If theres enough people that believe in them, they can make it "plausible" by spending that faith. Theres a whole genre of mahnwa that do this sort of thing, their gods are usually called "constellations" and are based on mythical figures of folklore. Im not sure how the trope got started, i think it was omniscient readers viewpoint. You should read ORV if you want an example of the trope being done really well. This might be a stretch, but i think the whole trope was inspired by wuxia novels, where characters that are trying to ascend to another realm usually have to face "heavenly tribulations", where the heaven tries to prevent them from ascending to another realm by sending down punishments. (Im not that into wuxia, so that might have been partially wrong, but its general gist of it) Anyways, i think plausibility does a pretty good job of explaining how omnipotent entities dont just instantly kill anyone thats trying to defeat them. Another mahnwa that does something similiar is "The archmage returns after 4000 years", where the gods are only allowed to interact with the mortal world by using avatars that they can descend upon. If you manage to kill that gods avatar they go into hibernation, giving you a chance to kill them while they are "asleep" IF you can manage to actually get to their reality somehow.

[@CreoSolus]

Man that's a really unique system. Absolutely love the idea. I definitely need to read up on it.

[@syntrx8185]

Xianxia, not Wuxia. Wuxia is basically low fantasy (think Demon Slayer), while Xianxia is high fantasy (think Elder Scrolls). Xuanhuan is a mix between eastern and western fantasy. They're usually high fantasy.

[@barry5]

@syntrx8185 right, mb. Have just been getting into xianxia recently, so I'm not exactly an expert xd

[@TheWorldPillow]

ORV! Whoo. Didn't expect to see a mention of it here. :) Though I haven't actually seen plausability explicitly used in other stories than ORV. I can see other systems (esp with constellations) however being similar, but "plausability" in ORV I think has such a specific meaning tied to the story's theme that even if other story's have similar "punishment for stretching the bounds of reality" mechanism, it just hits a bit different.

[@barry5]

@TheWorldPillow there's a few other stories I've read that also have it, though i can't name any from the top of my head. I think leveling up with the gods was one of them? None of them do it as well as orv though.

[@NobodyDungeons]

I like the idea of omnipotent characters not being able to fully manifest or utilize their power at all or with severe consequences. I had a omnipotent character in one story, but its main focus was on highlighting the drawbacks of godhood and the nature of omnipotence itself. I even had him talk with older more mature omnipotent beings who act as sort of mentors for him, not necessarily training him but helping him understand his unique place in the world.

[@CreoSolus]

Really interesting sounding story concept. I think it's great when you leave room for the characters to grow and mature.

[@VampEditz-]

Not to be nerdy and stuff, but omnipotence would mean they have absolute power and would be able to use all of it, and also there can only be one omnipotent being, since the requirement for omnipotence is being below no body.

[@maxmanchik]

You have basically described Kumagawa from Medaka Box His power is pretty much omnipotent but is also irreversible. Not only does it have such severe consequences, but Kumagawa also hates using this ability to full power because in his vision that's accepting that he lost and had to use this cheat ability

[@zillva]

The issue with this is that an omnipotent character can just choose to have zero drawbacks. And if they can't, they aren't omnipotent

[@maxmanchik]

@@zillva This is where mental drawbacks come into play. The character literally not wanting to use their powers to absolute omnipotence, for whatever reason. Maybe that's boring to just have everything go their way at a thought. Maybe it hurts their ego that they had to use their omnipotence against someone, so they count it as a loss. There are many different reasons why omnipotent characters might restrict themselves

[@arandomnamecauseisuckattho2285]

I... couldn't help but notice that none of these characters are actually omnipotent (by definition, someone who can do LITERALLY ANYTHING, not just someone who is incredibly powerful (for example, if Bill Cipher was omnipotent, the show would have ended before it began)). In most stories, an actually omnipotent character with an alignment simply ends the story, since they could just alter reality to their wims.

[@CreoSolus]

Yip sry, description.

[@AlejandroGonzalez-fl3hq]

Absolute omnipotence can have no sides, both for the sake allowing the story to even unfold or just because it would be hard to make it make sense, if you are absolutely omnipotent then what could you even want? Could only be valid as a ruler or arbitrary but that's more towards the neutral side. But if you have something like higher realms/dimensions and/or multiple omnipotent beings, you can play around "near omnipotence". Like a higher being is straight up omnipotent in a lower realm, but not as much on his own or higher realms, or there are other near omnipotent beings or rules that would limit his actions.

[@JackadooSmork]

​@@AlejandroGonzalez-fl3hq Additionally, you can tell a lot of interesting stories about beings who aren't omnipotent in worlds that contain omnipotent beings. Eldritch entities which might as well be omnipotent which drive the main characters mad. Or omnipotent beings which altered the world to suit their tastes with no consideration for the non-omnipotent beings who live there, imposing interesting stipulations upon reality those mortals have to contend with. Or even omnipotent beings who directly involve themselves in the lives of mortals to offer them faustian bargains for their own entertainment. There are tons of ways truly omnipotent characters can make for compelling stories

[@zandershadowbane]

@@AlejandroGonzalez-fl3hq I disagree, Absolute Omnipotence can work, as long as the entity has rules they won't break. A self limitation that they do because they want to give the things they rule over a chance. Like giving things free will, and then refusing to take it away because if they take away a gift because they don't like how it was used, it was not truly a gift. As to why an entity would limit themselves, that would have to do with their nature and what their desires. What could an omnipotent entity want? How about something to love and that would love them back. Because love is something that only is meaningful if it is freely given.

[@skelet8337]

Yes most of them time omnipotence is the goal of the villain and is the job of the protagonists to stop him from obtaining it or in the examples they are omnipotent the characters are either a bystander or have a counter balance in the form of a restriction or another omnipotent being that opposes them. On another topic what about omniscience(ever knowing) and omnipresence(being everywhere and able to have an effect everywhere) type characters I find them more interesting because there is counter measures you can have against them and usually guide the characters to outcomes the character or the beings wants.

[@pixelty7458]

two things with death in castlevania, 1. as others have pointed out its not actually death, just a being that feeds on it 2. Trevor actually states that he recognizes the dagger and its parts meaning he purposfully collected them when he could

[@CreoSolus]

Yeah It was a bit of a cheap shot of me to make a point of it. But I still think they could of brought the final weapon into the story in a better way.

[@justbenagain2291]

​@@CreoSolus I second that for sure. Like one random dude just had a piece on his person and Trevor took it off his corpse

[@TheTenzen12]

I think some animes did omnipotent antagonists right. Specifically "Shaman Kings" Hao and Sindibad from "Magi". Both of them are undefeateable in true sense of word and ultimate challange wasn't to beat them, but to talk them into comprise. I think that's incredible cool.

[@CreoSolus]

Your right, same as saiki k and one punch. Light hearted shows can have really cool overpowered characters.

[@StarForgers]

A good example of near omnipotent characters as a background to a story where said beings are (technically) dead and yet still MASSIVELY effect the current times is the Light novel "Shadow Slave" or "Lord of the Mysteries" aka LOTM.

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks for the recommendations I'll definitely check them out.

[@Scp-2317-K]

@@CreoSolus shadow slave is really good and our main character gets a bit of major trauma so thats fun

[@RaiDKing999]

@@Scp-2317-K Didn't think I will find someones talking about SS here, lol. P.S: by the way SS is my favorite novel currently(Haven't had the time to read LOTM)

[@accelerator3635]

yooooooo someone on youtube who read both! nice meeting you

[@accelerator3635]

@@RaiDKing999 Find time to read it. As someone who read both, it is on same level as SS if not above it. both are GOAT novels

[@dobrinasmihai1795]

I got your video on my home page and was stuned to see the small amount of views for such good production quality. Btw i really like your character design

[@CreoSolus]

Really kind of you to say. Thank you.

[@shealupkes]

Trevor was actively looking for the pieces of that dagger throughout the series, and it's not a dagger meant to kill death specifically, just a weapon exceptional at killing vampires

[@CreoSolus]

Ah ok thanks for the clarification

[@sillythewanderer4221]

With omnipotent antagonists I think it is importent for them to be conditionally omnipotent or nearly omnipotent. A good example of this is Sauron in the lord of the rings. Sauron is a spirit from before the world was made, and he eventually became a lieutenant of the first dark lord; he is not as powerful as the valar (gods) but is the most powerful non vala in the world. Sauron wanted even more power so that he could order the world as he wills, and so he creates the One Ring. Without the ring he is quite weak (for an immortal spirit), but with it only a war where all the valar fight against him would lead to his defeat.

[@CreoSolus]

Totally agree with you, lotr Sauron is an excellent example of how to write a powerful character with interesting limitations.

[@sir_slimestone3797]

The Valar are not gods in LOTR, they are also spirits like Sauron, just a lot more powerful. You can think of them as angels. The Valar are the really powerful angels and the Maiar are the lesser angels. Sauron is the most powerful of the Maiar. LOTR does have a God though, called Eru Illuvatar. Tolkien being catholic modeled his world's religion after Christianity, so it has Eru a singular all powerful and all knowning god that created everything, and then the Valar and Maiar as it's equivalent to angels. Morgoth and Sauron are it's equivalent to Satan being literal fallen angels. Even without the ring Sauron was so powerful that it took multiple acts of divine intervention from Eru to defeat Sauron. Though those acts of divine intervention were rather subtle. For example Gollum attacking Frodo causing the ring to fall into Mt. Doom was an act of divine intervention. Eru made Gollum turn back up that mountain and go for the ring.

[@kungknas6108]

I... don't think you completely understand what "Omnipotent" means. Omnipotent means you can do ANYTHING. Morpheus literally gets trapped for like... over a hundred years. Bill Cipher is closer to actually being omnipotent, but he is stuck in Gravity Falls and cannot enter someones mind against their will. Prismo, I'm pretty sure, is omnipotent, but you have several characters who aren't. I think you meant characters vastly stronger than the protagonists, which isn't the same thing. Also, again, omnipotence means infinite power. If this forest protector character truly is omnipotent, then he could make an indestructible, invisible wall around his forest to protect it. If you don't want him to do stuff like that, don't make him omnipotent.

[@CreoSolus]

Youre totally right my mistake, -----> description

[@mohammadtausifrafi8277]

Rare to see a content creator acknowledging a mistake. This is appreciable. ​@@CreoSolus

[@jksupergamer]

Technically you could argue that omnipotent also means infinitely powerful, which wouldn’t really change much of anything on doing anything, but it could allow for the application of differing levels of infinity as some are greater than others. But I think a weird way to think about it could be the difference between a writer and a character. The writer can do anything in the story and as such the character can do the same. But while the character is omnipotent, it doesn’t apply to the real world, all because they are well… fake. Both are infinite beings relative to the story but at different degrees. So something like an infinite difference between reality and fiction could be described. Just putting my thoughts here😊

[@mohammadtausifrafi8277]

@@jksupergamer How are some infinities greater than others if all are infinities? Also omnipotence means absolutely powerful, not just infinitely powerful, am I wrong?

[@jksupergamer]

@@mohammadtausifrafi8277 say you count up all integers on the number line. You would get infinity, specifically a countable infinity. But how many numbers are there between 0 and 1, decimals included. You would also get infinity, specifically an uncountable infinity. It’s a little complicated, but you can prove that uncountable infinites are greater than countable ones. There’s a lot of videos on this topic so you can search it up. For any good purpose, omnipotence is better treated in my opinion as infinitely powerful. that is also what google says. But it also says can do anything. But the problem with that is that if we made a character able to do anything, they would become omnipotent for not just the story but for us too (cuz they can do anything ya know). And that kind of makes the can do anything definition a bit useless as it means it can only apply to one thing ever, including things that are “fake”.

[@01ehlert]

Hello, Hebrew speaker here. I wouldn't name him/it Abadon. Abadon means destruction, its overused and vague (not trying to tell you what to do, it's a personal opinion). If he's warden, isn't he a protector? Something like Seraph (the type of angel that guards eden) or Yodhael (hand of God) or Magen (shield) Maganel (shield of God).

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks for the advice, I was aware of the meaning. He's not meant to be a hero. More of a chaotic force of nature. But I'm not completely sure on his name prehaps I will change it in the future. I do agree its a bit over used. Appreciate the great feedback. Thanks.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

Good name for Destroyer Entities, a counterpart of the word ‘Apollyon’.

[@araomh]

This video was an excellent analysis and exactly what I needed. Thank you! Also your concept kicks ass! Great job!

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[@AlejandroGonzalez-fl3hq]

An example I really like is from "He who fights with monsters" where there are Gods and Great Astral Beings whose power are so great they can affect the whole dimension or the astral (basically multiverse), but there are limitations and rules that they impose on each other or follow to avoid some consequences. It might be a little too limiting depending on what someone wants to achieve or showcase in their story, but I believe that the best way tk go around is by establishing these limitations that don't necessarily mean they have less power, but that they are limited on how to use it. An omnipotent neutral character is the easiest since you can just limit his interactions or interests, but if you want a villain you need to establish a valid way of beating them, like if a god-like being wants to do something to your world or city but has to limit himself to using indirect means or wait for a chance then you can stop that, or let's say you want to kill a god, you would lower the perception of what it means to be a god but a better way would be to put some sort of restriction or maybe the god was just concentrated power giving birth to a Will and you alter or "kill" the Will while the power is still there but not going to bother you.

[@CreoSolus]

I haven't heard of it before I'll go check it out. Thanks

[@mobbs6426]

I perhaps foolishly have included a pantheon in my fantasy. 49 deities across 7 different groups. The gods, the demons, the titans, the dragons, the nymphs, the sprites, and the spirits. And thats not even all of them

[@CreoSolus]

Someones got a lot of work cut out for them, good luck

[@124myth]

Bro.....that's barely half of half of what I have For context, I have over 57 official types of magics, for now. If we consider complex ones, they will be infinite (lore-wise). _I am doomed_

[@aspicrob3642]

​@@124myth What are thoses 57 types of magics I wonder, would you like to share ?

[@124myth]

@@aspicrob3642 of course, let me prepare the list. (Some have cringey English names but they fit so well so ignore that)

[@124myth]

@@aspicrob3642 The list. You can count them if you want. The number is mentioned might be a bit off because i didn't count properly 😅 List begins: (Do not steal) Mystic Asma Nexus Adion Ether Aether Eldegene Arrakea Mhoga Nisirus Lahojana Sascha Ulhar Slergus Es Lakkela Tir Metora Mer Klapeir Sit Drala Migosa Circig Tir Muslar Opria Starfuzz Herris Divine Sappria Melsuroda Greriege Mesmore Ninion Teteren Blornox Virvillin Alecta Nentek Negine Rera Arca Hyperposition Fire Water Dust Ice Air Electric Dengine Regivine Ziri Paarfa Karsion Skepris Chaos The Great Dark Carnage Nightmare Astra Draud Krata

[@Sebastian-Maeda]

for me, omnipotence works so well when it isn't the focus, just as how superman isn't about his power, but about his boy-scout nature, batman is all about the message not the godlike strategy. when you create a character you design to be omnipotent, it doesn't work very well because of all the plot issues, but if you ground them with morals, respect for pro/antagonist, they abide by your rules of the writing, can be very charming characters, and have actual personality and depth

[@CreoSolus]

Very well said, absolutely agree with you.

[@Alecations]

We need more video essays that actually show an attempt of using some of the discussion points throughout the video. That was satisfying.

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you for those kind words of encouragement.

[@djseal454]

Damn haven't watched the video yet but one of the coolest intros I've seen

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you. Was interesting to think of all the one eye'd characters I know

[@Shimadacat]

2:39 "Make a video game, not a story" implies that video games cannot be stories. But between games like NieR Automata and Omori, narrative driven games have produced some of my favorite stories of all time. A video game is a medium for conveying a story as much as a movie or a novel is, and I will not stand for it to be slandered so.

[@CreoSolus]

Totally agree it was a cheap shot for a point. I could reply some of my favourite campaigns over and over again.

[@BlazeKnight1561]

Less so but also games like Elden Ring and HZD. Less story driven, but still have a story that is important for the characters.

[@kobolding7260]

my favorite type of omnipotent character is the type that shows up when their interests intersect with the main cast but is overall not connected to the main plot

[@CreoSolus]

A nice and clean way to approach it.

[@abaddonthedestroyer737]

Its Fascinating how when thinking of a name that exudes power, this one tends to come up.

[@CreoSolus]

Yeah it is quite common

[@GyreArts]

6:50 there is wisdom to that in which I greatly respect And your work is of peak quality regardless of subject so hell yeah

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks man. Hopefully I keep improving the quality but stay true to the idea.

[@gabrielesousa.mateussousa9384]

The cool thing is that you create a very powerful character who can do anything he wants with a simple snap of the fingers and you make him very enigmatic. Type Bill Chiper from Gravity Falls, I always wanted to know what the Golden Triangle was going to do in each episode he appeared in because he's very unpredictable

[@CreoSolus]

Agreed, amazing character.

[@supercyc10]

I think you’re missing the point with omnipotent villains. The examples you used have clear weaknesses. Bill is pompous, and lytch king is obsessed for more power. You need those weaknesses narratively so the protagonists can exploit it. If not, then good job, you basically just written a lovecraft story.

[@CreoSolus]

Thats an excellent point. Thank you

[@silverminty861]

saved this video for after my exams like 2 weeks ago so worth it great job man i love the video keep up the amazing work!!!!!

[@CreoSolus]

Man thank you and for the motivational comment.

[@silverminty861]

@@CreoSolus yw man but moreso thank YOU for amazing videos like this!!!!

[@Tallame_Longstory]

1:34 probably the same reason why a guy with a handgun is still considered a threat even when nukes exist. Just because of weapon exist doesn't means it's easily accessible to people. It's also implied that the dagger is a one of a kind weapon, and it's also pretty clearly stated that the dagger is supposed to kill its wielder when used. It's unclear how Trevor survived, but my guess is it's because death ate the key that opened the infinite corridor and the magic teleported Trevor away before he could be killed.

[@CreoSolus]

Ah It makes sense. I was a bit harsh with that remark

[@duphasdan]

A rather good drawing at the end. When I do line weights, I tend to do it different from most people in that I put the line weight in or near the middle and have the line end in a wispy thin look. I do that so, when and if I color it, it would be simpler to color over the lines on the ends. Also, I like the look and gives me a chance to fill the corners with inked shadows made of wispy lines while not touching the main lines to give a thin white line in between.

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you. Nice idea, I think whenever your art is unique it adds so much more wonder to it.

[@KingMako30]

One omnipotent antagonist I've seen defeated plausibly was the final boss of a webnovel called Worm. Turns out if an enemy can do whatever they want, you should change what they want by bullying them into seeking death.

[@CreoSolus]

Sounds pretty neat, I've got to check it out

[@platipus-yn9zr]

@@CreoSolusplease do, was scrolling through the comments with Worm in mind. I cannot recommend enough

[@mtamer2943]

Interesting video - my only critique is on the part of "If you just want epic fights, make videogames, not stories" is pretty much a nonsensical advice. For one, videogames are an entirely different monster; and it might not really be something a person with an idea in their head might want to do. And if writing stories revolves around power trips and fantasies, then, that's also valid. Many of them can include great storytelling too and there's lessons in that; such as Cell vs Gohan.

[@CreoSolus]

Yip my bad it was a cheap shot. I could play halo and titanfall campaigns on loop. So I do get that they have awesome stories.

[@goldbutactuallyviolet8286]

No one will probably read this lol, but I’m writing ideas a for a non real story in my free time and I have a bunch of these sorts of characters. Specifically there’s our reality 3 which encompasses every dimension and universe/multiverse in a bubble. And there’s its creator who I aptly named the original. The Original created our everything in one day. He’s not an empty minded soulless watcher or a coniving experimenter, he was simply made by a higher power to create reality as he sees fit and that’s what he’s done. The original a smiling titan who presides and neutrally watches over our reality and does it with a smile. He watches all its good and its bad forever. His children, God and Chaos, are the ones who are the really effect anything. If you or me were put in a position to speak to the original then he’d be delighted to have your company. He’s old and all seeing, but so curious about us. He just wishes he didn’t need to start over to often. He’s not the strongest or most powerful character I’ve thought up, and he’s only really “Near omnipotent.” But I like to have him had a roof. He’s the presence above all for everyone. Like a soft roof for everyone else so that I don’t go making anyone stronger than him as an antagonist or protagonist.

[@CreoSolus]

I read every comment. Good luck with your stories snd future character creations.

[@goldbutactuallyviolet8286]

@@CreoSolus thank you!

[@realhectorcastillo]

How strictly are we using the word Omnipotent? Omnipotent means all-powerful. Like Zeno in Dragon Ball Super. Anything short of that isn't truly omnipotent. And even if you do put someone who is Omnipotent in the cosmos, you run into the typical criticism laid against any religion with a supreme being - if they're truly all-powerful, why do they (let bad things happen, etc.) It's a valid criticism that is not easily argued against (and I'd argue is impossible to argue against). If they're evil, why not just win? If they're good, why not just win? And if they claim to be neutral, they can't really sustain that identity because they created everything, so they also let bad things happen for no good reason, which makes them bad. In the end, any supreme being that isn't just making everything amazing from day 1 is inevitably evil given what they let happen (but then there's no story since there's no conflict lol). These questions need to be answered or the mythology falls flat at a certain point (which isn't important if you're going for pop-culture stuff, but if you want your world to have endurance, these questions need to be answered). If an omnipotent being isn't the creator (somehow?), then why don't they just fix everything ASAP? Valid question, no real good answer other than "they aren't omnipotent." So that's the real answer - they're not really omnipotent (which is interestingly enough the answer to how gods work in the Buddhist mythology - many, many gods on varying power levels but none are ultimately the Supreme being, since there is no supreme being - just being of varying power playing games and then dying and being reborn according to karma). I would say omnipotent characters detract from the world - they either are false gods (not truly omnipotent), are evil (which would be the case in every instance of a truly omnipotent being who lets bad things happen), or they invalidate the agency of everyone in the story by having made the dream in the first place and letting its constructs eat each other in an endless toil. Best trope would be this (and I plan on using it on my own works down the line but happy to give it to anyone): a being who believes he's supreme and maybe even others think he's supreme, but he's not and how you find out is a large plot point in your series ;)

[@CreoSolus]

Right you are thanks for the extra information

[@Makimaroma]

That trope reminded me of Gojo for some reason

[@Somaplus1]

This actually fits the idea of certain characters i plan for an future game. The idea being that they are just to bored to make the fight unfair, so they just not use their main powers at maximum or not at all for the sake of fairness.

[@CreoSolus]

XD i think most powerful characters should have serious boredom. Like a billionaire not knowing what to buy next.

[@KePzez]

Best part about Omnipotent beings, is that in a story perspective they are desrcibed like the hand of man descending into a pond. Humanity and everything else is so small, the size of bacterias to them. A story titled The Perfect Run by Maxime Durand does this well by having the beings called THE ULTIMATE ONES, each one governs a specific aspect of reality and are responsible for making sure things run perfectly on a multidimensional, multiuniversal, cosmic scale, they see all and know all when it came to their domain. For example there is an Ultimate One that governs every known and unknown material on reality and it looks like a giant rubics cube that is also a table of elements, every single material is on it, magical, esoteric, and mundane, from Hydrogen to Adamantium. There are 8 Colors, 8 Ultimate ones that granted people powers associated with their domain, and they do this via their "priests" which are interdimensional magic potions called Elixirs that are sentient, alive, but also alien. So if you drink a red elixir you gain the random ability to mess with the very concept of energy, you may gain the ability to vibrate or become a living sun, depends on your personal subconscious wish. But the protagonists of the story drinks a purple elixir granting him the power of controlling time, for the Violet Ultimate One's domain is Time and Space, they know everything that could be and will be, so talking to them can be annoying since they'll start responding before you even finished your sentence.

[@CreoSolus]

Well said and awesome analogy. I'm not familiar with their work, I'll check them out. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@sixesofsilver]

Very interesting video! I do believe it kiiinda confuses or neglects the difference between the very-powerful and truly-omnipotent (u already acknowledged this in the description tho), but I agree with what it's trying to say, I think. Personally I also like omnipotent characters being neutral or indifferent, because they've likely already done everything and anything they could even think of (this also sort of extends to the very-powerful characters, too, but they can actually be restricted and bound so not as much), but then again such a being would probably 'think' completely differently than any regular old mortal or human could fathom, so I digress... i like the character u designed though. Abaddon's body structure and head and ball joints make them look almost artificial, but their plating and parts are woven and intertwined with a very organic quality to it, and this creates a wonderful contrast. pleasing yet simple too. (not a bad thing, but abaddon kinda reminds me of a warden from minecraft, a very powerful force of nature confined to the area they protect. idk if there is a word for the trope.) A personal example of an omnipotent character that I made is "the Architect", the in-universe creator of the worldbuilding project they exist in, or in other words- capital g God! The other beings (mortal, animal, microbe, whatever) within the realms the Architect created can also get very strong, and the ascended or divine can draw raw energies and power from the same sources that the Architect did at their conception, but as all matter is technically just an extension of them, the power gap is... literally infinite, I suppose..? yet, the 'main cast' may not even personally interact with them. they just play the truly neutral role of an observer, watching how life unfolds within their universe. akin to a scientist looking in on a petri dish. (given, they could just predict the entire universe's life in an instant, but where's the enjoyment in a non-empirical example...?) but yea! i enjoyed the video. thank you for making it

[@CreoSolus]

Let me just say thank you for being the first person to read description before committing. I'll try to be more accurate in the next video. Appreciate the well written comments about abaddon. The architect is an awesome name for a character. Totally epic. Best of luck with your story.

[@chemreal]

just watched the intro and immediately liked

[@CreoSolus]

Appreciate it XD

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

Tom Bombadil in LOTR is my fav omnipotent character. He could defeat Sauron or at least guard the ring, but he doesn't want to get involved with the rest of the world like that, he just wants to chill in the woods. The council even considers giving him the ring, but quickly realize he would just lose it as it is completely insignificant to him.

[@CreoSolus]

That he is, Tolkien's storys are packed with interesting and unique immortal beings.

[@filipvadas7602]

A concept I made for my story, and one that is part of the central theme, is the idea of *balance* There's always a push and pull keeping all of existence together and the same is with godlike beings. They can make little microchanges to reality, its part of how the magic system works with thoughts & desires = reality, but as soon as they start making BIG changes like altering the laws of physics or erasing matter without putting it back or compensating it in SOME way, *all of reality* will snap back in equal measure in the opposite direction to preserve itself. Usually leading to permanent diminishment of the being's powers or maybe even a fate worse than death if they go too far. Actively discouraging these powerfull beings from going ham as much as they'd like outside of their domains.

[@CreoSolus]

Sounds cool, im an absolute sucker for balance. Yin yang, black and white, lightside darkside.

[@MrApil301]

The Aeons in honkai star rail is probably a very good interpretation of an omnipotent being, it has it's own back story, distinctive characteristic, and it's own follower. Just like god

[@CreoSolus]

In not familiar with the honkai universe, so ill read up on the character. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@cf7423]

"i am alive, yet i cant breath"

[@CreoSolus]

Can't think of anything, live electricity?

[@SolusEclipse]

This video was fucking sick and gave me ideas for a running dnd campaign

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you, and Best of luck with you dnd game.

[@arenkai]

The entire Cosmere from Brandon Sanderson is about godlike beings that try not to die from the schemes of other godlike beings And it's awesome

[@CreoSolus]

Totally agree, absolutely love it.

[@Broomer52]

My first introduction to an omnipotent character was the Ellimist from the Animorphs series. He has an archenemy of the same power named Crayak. One wanted to preserve life while the other was described as “a perfectionist who believes in Survival of the Fittest” he wants races to fight and die to create a singular super race. Ellimist and Crayak can’t directly fight each other because they would tear apart reality doing so. That would be counter intuitive for both of them. So they decided to play a game with agreed upon rules: -You can’t directly interfere with other civilizations -you can’t force others to do what you want -you can’t hurt/ kill sentient beings What ends up happening is they essentially use other races and notable people across time and space in moments of subtle manipulation to get the results they want. Ellimist leads the path to create great heroes and Crayak leads the path to horrible villains. Neither of them directly getting involved. On occasion both contact the heroes but neither can force them to do anything per the rules of the game. Instead they simply impart information and offer solutions.

[@CreoSolus]

I haven't seen it before, definitely will check it out

[@moistmalarkey1067]

For the Algorithm! An omnipotent force haunting youtube and hopefully blessing you. Great video. Checking out your other videos.

[@CreoSolus]

XD nice one and thanks for the support.

[@TheFlyingRonin]

Interesting video. In the story that I've been working on the omnipotent character is taken as an antagonist in the overall story, but in fact he's much more indiscriminate and neutral. It wouldn't be until the main characters/side characters force his hand to be the antagonist that he would truly showcase how much they messed up. Like the characters would still fight but at a great cost. Which i feel balances things out in these types of stories.

[@CreoSolus]

Interesting idea, good luck with your story.

[@TheFlyingRonin]

@@CreoSolus Thank you

[@LeatherNinja]

The opening to your video is top teir

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you

[@JohnHunter-ns4mu]

I had this idea for a story where the main character was basically a robot, no emotions or anything, I wonder how someone could turn that into a compelling story

[@CreoSolus]

Nice, like protagonist Ultron

[@justv7536]

Mm-mm. Nuh-uh. You aren't just casually dropping one of the coolest character concepts I've seen and dipping like that. Bring Abaddon back. Come on. you gotta. Please, PLEASE, I love him. Great video, take my subscription.

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks for the motivation. I'll be getting back into my concept world soon...

[@DoctorFalchion]

Read the description after seeing some comments, just wanted to add that the classic "nigh-omnipotent" descriptor (or just "near omnipotent" if you want to use more standard language) would work perfectly well here, and have a bit more oomph than just [very] powerful while not running into the issues with the actual definition of omnipotence. You could even get away with making the tweak to the title, probably.

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you for the feedback. Near omnipotent is a much better choice.

[@creepypastor007]

omnipotent : having unlimited power

[@CreoSolus]

Yup you're right my mistake.

[@thunderhead9338]

I myself am making a story that I've had in the works on and off since middleschool but never really got around to fleshing out it's overall world. I mainly focused on core events, a character and their tragic fate by the end of the story, and the ending itself The main plot revolves around two opposing kingdoms, a very plain Light vs Dark narrative, Except we experience the story through the eyes of the would be Antagonist. A prince, one who has extraordinary powers which can be explained through what I am about to tell you Why is the prince a "would be" antagonist? Simple, He falls in love with someone he was sent to assassinate. The princess of the rival kingdom. Refusing to kill her is what drove him to the realization of "Am I the bad guy?". He grew up his whole life only being told that the other side is bad, they are merciless, but upon seeing it for himself...he finds out that his side is the instigator. (Purposefully leaving out a massive gap in narrative here to input some prior writings that explain more of what I am trying to say regarding the Omnipotent villain I have) During this period of confusion and reflection it will be revealed to him the truth behind his birth and what he really was. A Demigod, but none one in the traditional sense. He possesses the dormant power of a long dead Goddess This goddess has a tragic story unfortunately and only exists to serve as a plot point, Her name has not been come up with. This goddess is felled by a mysterious race of ravenous serpentine hunters that have been nicknamed "The Destroyers" long before their slaying of a god. Once she was brought down, these hunters...ate her, tore her flesh and consumed her. Resulting in something truly terrifying. Their bodies were cursed, mutated, but gained powers beyond imagining. These "Destroyers"...were now something far worse, and were given the name "Immortals". They cannot die, they are ravenous, they seek nothing but death, and they do it for the thrill. But how do you counter such horrific creatures?...you don't. The ancient ancestors of this Prince, the children the god created, they crafted a book that took many generations to complete, but what good is a book against this threat you might ask? Simple. It's a Prison. The Argenthenium Between the pages of this book lies pocket dimensions, each page for a single prisoner. These ancients were the prey, but in that instant, they were the hunters. Lashing out at the Immortals for the centuries of torment, they sealed these fiends into this book one after another until...they were gone. The Argenthenium was locked away within the deepest recesses of the royal capital, only to be kept as a Royal Family secret for millennia that followed. And the Immortals? Ever clawing their roots of deceit into the very hearts of those outside...biding their time, awaiting for the day that someone stupid enough would give them a means of escape The Prince's Father, struck a deal with the Immortals residing within the book, Power...for Power. This prince, would be a sacrifice, or much rather a Conduit to the outside world from which they could bleed their influence through. The Power of the dead Goddess that the Immortals consumed, now found the Prince to be a suitable vessel seeing as his biology is similar to the god that once wielded it therefore no mutations occurred during birth. Once figuring out his purpose for existing, the Prince goes to see the Princess, to tell her what he has come to realize in hopes that she could help him (At this point they have had a very back and forth love story). But, after he arrives the Prince feels a gnawing sensation filling his mind, hazing his thoughts, he grew faint...and collapsed...But when he awoke there was no Prince, there was only..*The Immortals*. The beings from within the book had taken over his body, using him as a vessel to wreak havoc. The princess, yet unaware of the revelation gets too close...and is stabbed through the heart by a sudden strike from a magic blade that manifests itself from the Prince in defense. This sight shook the Prince back into control of his body but now...with blood on his hands, the blood of the only one he could love. With such sorrow he loses his mind, throwing himself into walls, weeping, curling up after causing a ruckus..but that noise drew attention, for the palace guards saw him covered in the princesses blood as they barged into the room. "The princess has been murdered!" they'd shout as they sound an alarm before being swiftly killed by this out of control menace. The prince, filled with pain in his heart tore a path through their palace, fleeing until he was within the safety of his own walls...but he'd just instigated another war by murdering the princess, one that his kingdom had no hopes of winning. So, with nothing left to lose, he goes to the one man who caused all of his problems, His Father. *The King*. Imbued with this newfound power and the Immortals still fighting for control, the prince nearly destroyed the whole castle trying to tear his way to the throne room, but when he did arrive his father said nothing. And Accepted his death. The prince, having nothing left as an enemy army began approaching for the murder of their beloved princess, struggled and stumbled on his way up to his room. Looked out of his window and spoke. "I know what you are, I know what I am...and If I am to be nothing but a puppet...you can rot in that book.." Grabbing a dagger from beneath his pillow the Prince stabs himself in the chest...slumping over, blood coating his hands as he slowly watches the sun begin to rise...the distant sounds of siege machines and chanting of war start to overtake his mind as he fades. Thus ending this chapter of his story. To wrap it up, and leave room for another entry in what I hope to be a real book some day if I can focus on it enough. After his death, the Prince's soul would begin getting drawn into the Argenthenium, to be with the very beings who'd ruined his life. He will now never Truly die, For he, Too, Is immortal..But not like them. His SOUL is immortal, he cannot truly go to any afterlife if there was one. They begin telling him things, teaching him things, filling his mind with tauntings and demented laughter until..one day. He wakes up, Surrounded by robed figures. His mind is almost so far gone he doesn't even realize that he'd just been resurrected by a Cult that wanted to bring an Immortal into their world using the Argenthenium which has been left over from the ruins of his home. Getting up, He'd steal the Argenthenium from the Cultists and flee without telling them a damn thing about the horrors they could have unleashed had they succeeded in their original plan...but instead they withdrew his soul from the book, and not one of those..things. Anyways Mucho Texto, TLDR: My Villain is a Collective Hivemind of individuals that were corrupted and mutated by eating the flesh of a god. And are currently trapped within a book that acts as a prison full of miniature pocket dimension like spaced within each page. They made a deal with a King that his unborn son will act as their way of bleeding back into the world

[@CreoSolus]

Well written. Thank you for taking the time to write this awesome summary. Best of luck with your writing and world building.

[@trinstonmichaels7062]

It's fun watching the heros trying to clime a mountain that is trying to stop them like how will they do it is fun to watch.

[@CreoSolus]

True but a little bit sadistic

[@docomega7862]

The way I would make an omnipotent vilain work would probably be to take the riddler route. In batman stories, the riddler usually leaves on purpose a trail of clues batman can follow to eventually catch onto him. An omnipotent vilain could follow the same pattern. Let's say the vilain is an omnipotent overlord. After conquering most of the world, they could be bored and decide to play games with their opponents instead of simply destroying them. By winning in those games, the protagonist could "defeat" the overlord without negating his omnipotent status

[@CreoSolus]

I like that idea, where the game is more important to them over the final outcome

[@ErenOzsoy-mm7lp]

I have my own omnipotent character called The Ultimate power to destroy everything and resist everything but one big weakness of him is that he is a human and humans age, so he is a god like treat until death by old age

[@CreoSolus]

A moral god pretty interesting

[@CEOofBillPathing]

This is a great video, but I’d like to say that none of the characters mentioned are actually omnipotent in the true sense of the word. Some of these statements are contradictory, for example at 4:30 it isn’t possible for someone to be omnipotent and still be restricted in any way, that would just mean that they are extremely powerful, in many cases more so than any other being in the universe, but they aren’t actually omnipotent. To be omnipotent you would need to be all powerful over everything and by extension sovereign over all things meaning you are in complete control of everything all the time. You would also have to be eternally existent meaning you’d have to have no creator or come from anything. Edit: I’m sorry I just read your description, I wanna say again this was a great video

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you, I'll try to be better with The next video. Less jam packed with contractions

[@ant_whi]

I think one aspect of your initial statement is that the immortal "bad" character typically seeks to decieve, harm and destroy. While the character doesn't face the fear of dying physically, they do face the threat of dying mentally. The ideology the character promotes can become warped over such a long time and they "go insane." Now you have an all-powerful being that doesn't follow anyone's orders, while also not being fully coherent to the point where they aren't really sure of their purpose for being. Many of the "smaller beings" typically have needs, wants, or desires. The God character doesn't have the same needs, typically that character enjoys creating, while the being below that are typically working to survive. So we look at survival, and creation. Its annoying how in so many of these stories, the bad immortal seems to be present all the time, while the good immortal is either fading away, or works through messengers, messiahs, saviors and/or blessings that create or invoke the "hero." Typically of these beings there are two warring ideologies, how do you kill an idea? One way is to silence the other immortal and kill the followers, so that theres no one left to remember the ideology. The God characters operate on a higher plane, where the "rules" arent so rigid. The possibilities may be endless, but what is the use of possibilities if they can't come to fruition in the "real world." The idea or essence is then just left where it is created.

[@CreoSolus]

Well said. You seem well versed in this category thanks for the informative and useful comment.

[@kencolac2860]

A take of mine on omnipotent antagonists is they eventually become omnipotent neutral after taking everything they wanted. My omnipotent villain took all things magic from that world for themselves but then they stopped killing. . Bill cypher is also an interesting take as bill is just comedy.

[@CreoSolus]

Sounds pretty interesting, good luck with developing them.

[@nathanaeldean6301]

One okay-ish example of a good omnipotent antagonist I've seen would be Yukari Yakumo in PCB. Yes I know she isn't truly omnipotent, but for almost anyone in the cast, she is basically invincible. Complete mastery over the concept of boundaries is a ridiculous power to have. So, how can you circumvent the problem of impossible odds? Well, what if the antagonist isn't trying to kill you? What if she's just having fun in the battle? That way, your protagonist can believably defeat the antagonist in combat, because the antagonist is probably giving her a good chance to win. This helps if your antagonist isn't looking to conquer the world or anything, because logically such an antagonist already rules the world. Also it helps that the plot doesn't take itself too seriously. In short, have your antagonist hold back during combat, because 1. the antagonist doesn't want to 2. the stakes aren't that high 3. why kill the protagonist when you can have fun instead? Perhaps even these godlike beings dont view uneccesary gore as fun

[@CreoSolus]

Well said, thanks for this addition and useful information.

[@CrownlessStudios]

For good examples of omnipotent antagonists, look at Ruin or Odium from Brandon Sanderson's works. There are plausible and logical reasons they can't just snap their fingers and win while still having vastly more power than any POV character.

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you for the recommendation

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

If you want to see a good example of an omnipotent villain done right then take a look at Eris from the Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas movie. I think she is an excellent example of an omnipotent villain and shows how such a villain can be written in a story.

[@CreoSolus]

I've watched a bit of sin bad, so I'll definitely check it out, thanks for the recommendation.

[@julienbrightside8635]

Love Eris in that movie.

[@the_meme_giver]

bro imagine a cartoon or something where the omnipotent being is a recurring side character ?

[@CreoSolus]

Would be sick.

[@JoeLai-d4m]

Best way to have tension while ur mc is a god is to just make them hold back

[@CreoSolus]

Simple and easy

[@AlastairMonis]

IMO true “omnipotence” is impossible, mainly due to the scope of the world. To truly be omnipotent, one must have complete control over the world, to have power over something is to know that said thing exists and can be affected. If the omnipotent being truly can affect everything then they themselves can also be affected, thus the concept of omnipotence as we know it falls apart, because they are no longer isolated by their power. I feel that a healthy way to think about it is omnipotence within limitations (as is mentioned in the video) but limitations more abstract than simply within a forest. Assume an omnipotent character in terms of physical strength, they are omnipotent in terms of raw power and physical durability, but only in that, they are mentally strong but not the peak of mental strength, not of emotional strength. If you wanted an actual omnipotent character, they must seek that which they cannot have, ie death / eternal rest / peace / knowledge. The best omnipotent characters are ones that weren’t always omnipotent, the ones that grew to become omnipotent.

[@CreoSolus]

Totally agree with that. Nicely explained.

[@theguy9777]

There's this show called Ohsama Sentai KingOhger where their omnipotent god (Dugded) is basically god of the universe that likes watching species fight eachother and die Basically what stopped Dugded from blowing up the planet in an instant is that he likes having fun while "cleaning up" planets, so he basically let the protagonist fight him in the end they beat him by pushing him outside of the universe (literally)

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks for the recommendation ill check it out.

[@phenom682]

0:01 niffty jumpscare 😰

[@CreoSolus]

XD good eye

[@tlotro625]

I like the idea of omnipotent characters having some sort of "peace treaty", where they can't fully intervene, emass power and have to work within their specific role, or, at least, have to maintain some plausable deniability about it. If they don't play by those rules, others won't. And the last time it happened, a bunch of gods died, realms went into complete disarray, entire concepts were erased from existance, and the existance itself almost ended. That's the main reason why most higher beings operate via a system of contracts (spoken agreements work, but there are specific rules about it, that's why chants and prayers exist and are formalized) and have to be called first. And that's why they can't just do exactly what their followers ask them, even if they themselves want to, and some requests are just easier to deny outrights instead of even trying to justify or hide. Of course, as gods require to be acknowledged to survive, some lesser gods can get away with much weirder stuff, such as directly appearing in a physical form, directly influencing and communicating, under the pretence of "I'm just protecting my only follower".

[@CreoSolus]

Yeah i like that method aswell. Well said and nicely explained. Thanks for the addition.

[@tlotro625]

@@CreoSolus Sure. Awesome video, btw. Interesting and well made.

[@Ryanin2D]

The title alone got you a sub from me

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you :)

[@lordpigron]

Always loved the op character trope and I feel a better way to categorize the series that use the trope is by the genre. I think it works best in comedy (like One Punch Man, Saiki K, The Daily Life of the Immortal King, and The Eminence in Shadow) and character-driven stories (like Mob Psycho 100 and Frieren). However, I do think that there is a lot of potential for stories where the main character acts like, or is seen as, a villain (The Eminence in Shadow comes to mind again as well as other isekai like Overlord and Tensura). Great video.

[@CreoSolus]

Saiki k mention💯. That would be a good way to sort them. Comedy op characters are awesome and are some of my favourite show's. I probably should of added that as a category.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

I have one myself, it is a machine god with the desire to be human, is however not allowed to have access to all the human bodies on the world by default, yet it need _a lot_ of those to even get a slight mathmatical idea what being human is.

[@CreoSolus]

Very interesting. I'm not brave enough to attempt sci fi.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

@@CreoSolus it's not like the world has to be in accordance t their god: The world itself is mostly just a Western. Lol

[@theflyingfrog-sp2iq]

I really liked the video. Honestly I'm trying to figure out a way to create some sort of omnipotent character in my own world if possible. Anyhow the vids intro looked sick hope to see more content from you and good luck on your own worlds endeavors.

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you, and same too, with your quest to build a world. Good luck.

[@vinayakkothari6162]

You're a top-tier content creator Keep up the work!

[@CreoSolus]

Much appreciated! Thanks for the kind words 100

[@narrativeless404]

They do, only unless they're also the all-above god that is just completely unbeatable

[@jmart1526]

If anyone wants a fantastic omnipotent villain, read the skullduggery pleasant books or the shaman king mangas. Both have astonishing takes on the trope, and both are equally well executed Imo

[@CreoSolus]

Man I haven't heard of those books in a while. I should really re read them some day.

[@jmart1526]

@@CreoSolus theres also new skullduggery books still coming out. Idk where youre up to, but we now have 3 phases (book 1-9 being phase 1, 10-15 phase 2, and 16-18 will be phase 3). 16 is already out, its a banger as always

[@In-Nihilum]

My pfp was an neutral all powerful oc I came up with. Will i ever actually right a story with him hidden in the seems of it. Probably not, but the story can reside in my mind. He influences the universe silently and entertains himself with it, his mere presence can shatter minds unless he suppresses it and wierdly enough hed also be god fearing(he believes in a higher god that judges him), which would be his main hindrance. He wouldn't actually be present much, if at all twords the main characters in the story, perhaps little hints of him existing, or watching from the dark, and characters connected to him. Although he wouldn't be infinitely intelligent. He would have intelligence comparable to a normal person dispite being able to erase the universe at his will.

[@CreoSolus]

Don't give up on making a story just yet XD. Cool character.

[@Ozthebestdog]

The cthuhlu mythos is a example of omnipotent villains

[@hal9733]

Another cool omnipotent character is death from the manga DAI DARK. It's both a main character and a neutral entity. It fits really well into the setting, i recommend the read

[@CreoSolus]

Sounds like something worth checking out, thanks.

[@tangoto1209]

A good way to write a omnipotent main character could be to have them suddenly gain their powers, become a super hero like super man and make them supper excited but than slowly make them more and more apathetic about their work because nothing is a challenge like one punch man but before he became apathetic

[@CreoSolus]

It definitely would be interesting to watch the powers negatively effect their psyche

[@noreskeeanimations6113]

The greater will is a great example of an omnipotent villain

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks for the recommendation

[@s.dalner7245]

I am in conflict with Omnipotent characters. Because, while the idea of someone so powerful that they can do whatever they want can be tempting to include in fantasy, for the sake of the story... you can't really have them have actual skin the game, at least as far as the protagonist's mission is concerned - if they did, then they could just wave their hand, and it would come to pass. And there would be no story. They have to be neutral and passive to our protagonist's cause, like you said, to create the most frictionless writing. But ironically, that makes it so, that the best use for a character that can truly do anything and everything... is for them to do nothing. Or at least, nothing that is of true concern to the mission of the protagonist. There are ways you can get around this. While your description of "guardian" might be workable, if someone is quite literally bound to a place or job, are they truly omnipotent? But, maybe they could have a code, that prevents them from interfering with the plights of "mortals". That can work too. So they could do anything, they just make the choice not to. So they have skin in the game, but can maybe only support/oppose the protagonist indirectly. But, all of this just circles back around to where we started - creating a character that can do everything, only to have to limit them from doing anything of note. Which begs the question of why we aren't just creating a character that is naturally limited in the first place. Instead of trying to solve a problem that didn't need to exist in the first place.

[@CreoSolus]

Very well said indeed, yes true omnipotence is incomprehensible and forms many contradictions. But I'm using it more as extremely powerful. I think any being that can just snap their fingers and solve all their problems would be pretty boring to create. You seem well versed on the topic, thanks for the awesome insight.

[@apotato6278]

I think a really good way to handle it is by looking at Odin from Norse mythology. Odin is absurdly powerful but he also enjoys playing games. By virtue of this trait you can cast him as a supporting character, helping the hero in convoluted ways because he thinks it's funny. "There's a magical sword but it's at the bottom of a lake. Go fetch lmao" It's like when you get good at a game and start using meme-builds. You could, theoretically speaking, use the all-powerful "Sword of Shattered Crowns" and don the "Cuirass of Vanquished Gods" but that's for children, edgelords, tryhards and other incompetents. As a testament to your overwhelming skill you sally forth wearing nothing but your underpants, wielding only a sturdy stick. Odin, likewise, would rather make a farmhand jump through a hundred different hoops over a period of 6 months instead of solving the problem in 30 seconds by lobbing Gungnir at it.

[@leeris19]

I love omnipotent villains the most. The thing with omnipotent villains is that, with that amount of power, they will not sit around for the long game because they are too arrogant for that, plus they crave entertainment. These are what ultimately makes their omnipotence crackable. It's much fun to watch the main character struggle and crack their heads to come up with clever solutions that capitalizes these mistakes than watch them beat the villains to pulp.

[@CreoSolus]

Personally flaws are a really cool weakness to use.

[@obscuraesperium6402]

I noticed the quick glance over omnipotent villains, and I'd like to give an idea as to how I would write such a being. As it is above the MC and is an antagonist its goals should be in conflict with the MC, however, that does not necessarily mean that what they do is trying to deal with the MC. If we consider the fact the MC is, relatively, insignificant to the omnipotent antagonist, why not have it act more as a creature who happens to have a plan at that time that intersects against the MC. Not that it is inherently evil, but its goals don't align with the MC and cause conflict. Where the omnipotent being sees the MC as nothing more than a roadblock, that can be bypassed by waiting things out (as you said), the MC could see it as something to try and overcome. Even if the MC fails, in a sense, to beat it you could still have it decided the MC is not worth the time to mess with, and it does something else. It could just be about the perspective the MC has of the antagonist, that it is something malicious when it could just be a force of nature or something just passing through that disrupts what normal people of the world think is the natural order.

[@CreoSolus]

Yeah I really like this sort of conflict. Similar when both parties are good from their perspective but their goals just happen to counter one another.

[@obscuraesperium6402]

@@CreoSolus Exactly!

[@XX-sp3tt]

The Lich King as is Finn described him, "You'e so evil you're boring!" And even the eldritch god he devotes himself to treats him with indifference or annoyance. Magic Man is a mess of a person, having lost his source of happiness, refusing to move on, he decides "if I can't be happy, NO ONE CAN!" Prismo is BOUND to grant any wish asked of him whether he likes it or not.

[@CreoSolus]

Adventure time is full of epic characters

[@JuhoSprite]

interesting vid, i didnt even know these have a name

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you.

[@TheEarthwormArmy]

The best thing to do with omnipotent antagonists imo is to make them have a job. Their job is what allows the stakes to be raised. If there’s something they HAVE to do, there’s something they care about.

[@CreoSolus]

Absolutely agree

[@pressstart2640]

The problem is the ending of Castlevania was rushed, that's why so many plot points "wrapped up" and others were left open ended.

[@CreoSolus]

It did feel rushed, but i really enjoyed Isaac's arc

[@Jona330b]

Aurelion Sol from the lore of league of legends is an omnipotent space dragon. He is enslaved because of how narcisistic he is and how much he loves the worship of the people. So they tricked him into wearing a crown, that he thought was just their gratitude, but was instead something that confined him to their realm. I like this way of doing omipotent beings, by making them extremely powerful, but giving them a personality flaw that can be exploited.

[@CreoSolus]

Sounds epic I'll read up on him

[@thenew4559]

It really depends on what you mean by "omnipotent". It sounds here like what's being described are more so just "godly" or "transcendent" entities. What omnipotent truly means is something more akin to the "big G" God himself, something that is infinitely beyond everything else, even any other cosmic entities, and whose power has absolutely no limitations. The potential roles of such a character are a lot more limited than these kind of lesser godly entities. If you go with a good omnipotent God character, then their role is basically relegated to them being a benevolent creator deity with little actual role in the story, except for the good guys to hold as an ideal or worship. Maaaybe this God can intervene once or a couple times on behalf of the Good, causing divine miracles, but it's hard to write that without it being contrived. I think it would be best to interweave the theme of Good triumphing over Evil throughout the story, and portray any divine intervention in a more metaphoric, less direct way, kind of like JRR Tolkien does in the Lord of the Rings, or even like the Bible does through the narrative of Jesus and his crucifixion. If the God is instead neutral, there is more room to utilize this character, as they can be portrayed as a more chaotic force who is responsible for controlling the fates of individuals, both in good and bad ways. Though again, their role probably can't be very direct, as there's nothing the characters can do against such a God, they have to accept whatever he decides. If the God is evil, then about all you can do is portray them as a malevolent force controlling the world from the background, like some kind of Lovecraftian elder god or an evil Gnostic demiurge. Maybe they can indirectly act in the story through some kind of evil avatar (a "dark lord", "antichrist", etc), but the moment this entity has any direct presence in the story, it's over for the characters; they either are destroyed or spiral into insanity.

[@CreoSolus]

Agreed my mistake----- description

[@thenew4559]

@@CreoSolusit’s fine, I think everyone gets what you’re talking about in the video. I’m just offering my thoughts on a more strict interpretation of “omnipotence” in fiction.

[@MechBurner]

Hi, great video. Could you please make more videos on how to color guns that you drew in Krita, they are mindblowing!

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you. I will probably make another video on concept guns in the near future.

[@kingpotato360]

2:40 “if epic fight scenes are all you want, make a video game, not a story.” My brother in Christ video games have stories.

[@CreoSolus]

Yup you're right, i didn't mean to say every game has no story. Instead that u can make a game without writing plot.

[@grecus4449]

You are confusing omnipotent with godlike. Omnipotent means it can do anything so superman, anyone from castlevania, anyone from clonewars are not omnipotent(I haven't watch other shows used as example). If someone looses they are not omnipotent. If there are rules someone has to follow they are not omnipotent. I would say that any actually omnipotent character has to be neutral because otherwise it's impossible to create any conflict. Often when villain is a god, protagonist points out during the confrontation that they are no god because for it would be impossible to actually oppose truly omnipotent being. I think that we can call characters that are not truly omnipotent as omnipotent but omnipotence should be reserved only for characters that are really close to actual term. I can think of two examples of beings that are virtually omnipotent. One of them isn't really a character and more like part of setting, god that watches over the world and removes any events that would lead to world's destruction(it doesn't even happen just someone explained thats how it works). The other is god that keeps interaction with world to the minimum and only sometimes meddles a bit if she thinks she can make things more interesting because if she really tried to achieve some outcome it would just happen and there wouldn't be any fun in that. This one isn't actually omnipotent but any conflict that is happening in the story is so far below her that we don't know of any limits she has. But if you replace "omnipotent" in this video with "godlike" I would 100% agree. Godlike characters that are overwhelmingly strong are really fun. Having god as final villain from the beginning can ensure that even if there are no immediate threats there is still some tension and sense of danger. Beings like that operate on completely different dimension of power so we can't be sure that what we know about the settings powers would work exactly the same for gods.

[@CreoSolus]

You're absolutely right. It's just that omnipotence in itself is contradictory "indestructible rock catch 22" But yes I was using it as a hyperbole, when instead I should of used god-like or immensely powerful. Thanks for the useful feedback.

[@Монс-й1ь]

Who is characters from examples, and where from?

[@grecus4449]

@@Монс-й1ь First one is god from manga Ishuzoku Reviewers(it doesnt have much to do with the plot its just part of the setting). The other is administrator D from Kumo Desu ga Nani ka (Light Novel, anime is dogshit)

[@sigiligus]

@@CreoSolusThere are two answers to this problem of omnipotence. One is that logical contradictions are just word salad that don’t make sense as manifestations, and thus the ol’ “can an omnipotent being create a rock too heavy for him to lift?” doesn’t even make sense. There’s no such thing as a limitation on omnipotence, so it’s like asking “can a triangle have four sides?” The answer would be no, because four sides is out of bounds of the definition of triangle. The other answer is that omnipotence doesn’t obey logic, so omnipotent being can create a rock too heavy for him to lift, but he can lift something too heavy for him to lift because the constraints of definitions and logical processes don’t apply to omnipotence.

[@gameplayer1837]

Doable Omnipotent character idea: a lovecraftian-looking god who cannot use his full powers and can barely intervene with the events of the world because it's HIS world that he made with such love and care that he heavily restricts himself to not destroy this creation of his he so lovingly made

[@CreoSolus]

Interesting idea. Be cool to see it developed.

[@razi0306]

What a fantastic video. All I can say

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you for kind comment.

[@Monk9619]

I think mistborns ruin and perservation are extremly good omnipotent beings they are only able to either ruin or perserve things and are therefore opposed to each other but are also smart, to understand, that somethimes perserving things might lead to more ruin in the furture they are also able to apear everywhere but not at once still an amazing concept and amazing books

[@CreoSolus]

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll do a bit of research on them

[@heraadrian7764]

Omnipotention ruins everything in any story from immersion to belivability. Mayhaps if only as a dream scape or simulation being the exception when it may be consumable.

[@CreoSolus]

Good point, I get what you're saying similar to time travel. Your story losses consequences.

[@heraadrian7764]

@@CreoSolus Yupp, like time travel exactly brother. It makes it to virtual like our mental imagination or folktales.

[@MaskedFairy-gf5ob]

Not always, if done correctly omnipotent characters are characters on their own, not a plot device, they can have their own ideals, goals, and thoughts which is very interesting because what could a being that can do anything ever want? Immersion is not how realistic a setting is but how it FEELS real, like how will a society function if magic exist? If that question is answered properly, you are more immersed in the story while believability which I assume you mean is that logically speaking, an omnipotent being cannot exist, well some settings doesn't need to adhere to real world logic e.g. fantasy and lo and behold, pretty much all stories that the video presented are fantasy

[@heraadrian7764]

@@MaskedFairy-gf5ob Being realistic is the easy intuitive way to make-it so it FEELS real.The same way people see faces in flowers, houses or wall-sockets so the mimic of reality using realism is the way to trick the mind so it will FEEL real. If you stray to much from intuition you get in the uncanny valley of concepts and you will lose cohesion so belief in the author and story is lost. If we learn about life thru fiction it will stay with you more so than a chaotic mosaic-collage like for example greek mythology versus modern british-style fairy tales.

[@themonolougist]

There's the wonderful notion of "fantasy-realism" which I really like. Where the world has its own set of rules and boundaries which could explain omnipotent characters and make it believable and immersive at the same time. In my opinion the Elder Scrolls world does this in a fantastic way, especially with varied cultures. What's also great is that your arguement unravels the heart of Christianity, the most known religion today, as in the God is omnipotent why does he let a child starve in Africa or anywhere else; and thus makes his "omnipotence" questionable

[@IAmBecomeDeath666]

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SEEING YOUR CHANNEL BUT THAT INTO IS SOO FIRE

[@CreoSolus]

Thank you.

[@IAmBecomeDeath666]

Btw subscribed

[@TheStripeTailedFiend]

To be honest, when I think of the idea of a truly omnipotent antagonist, I kinda just picture an elder god like you would find in a cosmic horror story. A being that is omniscient and can only be considered an antagonist in the sense that they are a threat, not that they are actively malicious.

[@CreoSolus]

cthulhu is top tier.