Why Palpatine was AGAINST Sith Wearing Armor| Sith Armor Complete Timeline

[@bigyoshi5170]

“I just feel like I might get cut in half one day, specific I know but this feeling makes me want to wear some armour perha-“ -Maul *”YOU’LL BE FIIIIIIIIIINE.”* -Palpatine

[@dionysisnance4204]

Palpatine said we don't need any more drip as sith Except you Vader you need even more drip

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Lmfao exactly, Vader had ALL the drip. He put fear in everyone by just showing up like Batman does

[@NetraAmorosi]

I mean Vader lost portions of his body, the drip was necessary to make his cyberbog body look good and intimidating.

[@brendondurbin1158]

Probably to make up for not ever getting master

[@sithazzazzin7329]

To Palpatine, the pure power of the Darkside is he needed.

[@Ainttrippin]

and a limitless army and fleet at his disposal...

[@JohnU1515]

@@Ainttrippin And two massive Superweapons...

[@sithazzazzin7329]

@@Ainttrippin And that as well

[@sithazzazzin7329]

@@JohnU1515 Those help

[@blackc1479]

If he had just kept to what worked for him, guile, subterfuge and manipulation, it would have been a totally different story.

[@RFK_1925]

"We fight like real men"- palpatine probably

[@ericthompson3982]

Palpatine doesn't care who they fight like, as long as they fight the way he tells them.

[@NottherealLucifer]

"Said Palpatine, from the shadows, while making weird gurgley goblin noises."

[@XSilver_WaterX]

Palp's always plans to murderhobo ANYONE he literally sees as a threat or obstacle in his plan, even civilians AREN'T safe!? That's how much evil is leaking out of his butt.

[@blackc1479]

Thats was the later sith, especially palps problem. If he had really mastered his ego, he could have ruled indefinitely from the shadows, kept puppeting the republic and destroyed the jedi without ever putting himself in the bullseye. Maybe even carrying on till he warped perceptions to the point that his emergence as a sith was hailed.

[@robertagu5533]

Yeah.. from the shadows. An indirectly when can.. usually with manipulation, bribery or assassination. Until you get your favorite weapon ready an they got nothing to destroy that your enemy still cares about or loves.. then you can destroy them

[@sedalionthunder6295]

Practical too, back in Marr’s day being part of massive battles were common and therefore blasters, shrapnel and the like could be an issue. Force shields were not infallible but could mitigate explosions (Darth Malgus for example) but armour was still a last line of defence.

[@ProphetOfDoubt]

The only armor you need against a Disney lightsaber is your skin

[@blackc1479]

Plot armor is the best armor.

[@aztn19]

I don’t know if this is a Palpatine quote…or a Mickey Mouse one 🙃

[@everettjohnson9374]

The only armor you need against a legends lightsaber is an upper torso

[@SawdustMusic-rd8mj]

Go to school and learn human anatomy. Not every strike is lethal.

[@ProphetOfDoubt]

@@SawdustMusic-rd8mj learn about how hot a lightsaber burns and tell me it wouldn’t cook your organs

[@doublevideos5424]

This was indeed REALLY fascinating! Thanks a lot!👍😀 Very entertaining whenever we dive into Sith history.

[@oddmanout8692]

And thank you for the video and the lore. It made more sense than the Clone Wars teaser that simply said "New Outfits!" When describing Kenobi, Skywalker and Tano.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

2:00 I never understood this. You would think that each side would, at the very least be outfitting their most elite warriors (i e. the ones most likely to be facing lightsaber wielders) in armor that could reliably defend against sabre strikes. Hell, I find it extremely hard to believe that someone as pragmatic as Reven wouldn't make it a priority to obtain a full suit of beskar for himself and probably his most trusted subordinates the moment he learned of its existence. And for a Sith Lord, donning a full suit of beskar armor would be the ultimate status symbol considering how rare and expensive the material is.

[@blackc1479]

Agreed for revan, but it would be a tossup on whether he would want his underlings to have the same protection . Hell, I'm sure the only reason vaders armor had cortosis was because palps planned on using lightning if he tried. (Though I would have probably included a killswitch in the cybernetics just to be sure) Well, that and palps dislike of saber combat.

[@TheShadow14150]

Reasons to wear armor: - cosmetic, causes intimidation, and having an appealing outfit can make you easy to remember. Even wearing armor can make it more confusing to choose a place to strike. - mystery, one who wears a mask appears without humanity. - protection, even if not against lightsabers, it can protect from most other types of injury. But of course Sidious is like “we don’t need armor cuz we’re built different”. Meanwhile how tf was a hood enough to conceal his face?!

[@blackc1479]

Armored sith: "we want to fight." Robed sith: "we rule through wisdom and subterfuge." Practical sith: "cortosis weave robes, bitches!"

[@Anti-Villain-Wolf]

The timeline where Leia joins the Empire is something I haven't seen a lot of. Very small amount in fact. I think you guys would do an amazing job with telling that story

[@robertstrong6798]

It’s a bit odd as Palp was a big fan of Darth Malgus. And wanted Vader to emulate him. But maybe 🤔 that’s because he wanted an enforcer not a future successor

[@clone3_7]

Nah, I do not think Palpatine was lying, when he told Yoda, that he expected Vader to out grow them both. He wanted an enforcer once Anakin was (further) crippled.

[@robertstrong6798]

I’m simply saying he clearly appreciated armour in certain circumstances

[@clone3_7]

@@robertstrong6798 Ah yes, that is true

[@Chinchilla2310]

@@clone3_7 I can’t remember, but didn’t he intend to overturn the rule of 2 after the formation of the Empire if Anakin wasn’t disabled? If Anakin had survived intact, I’m sure the Sith wouldn’t have any reason to stick to secrecy.

[@philosophymf]

@@clone3_7 Palpatine never wanted a successor, sure, he probably did believe that Vader would have become more powerful than him, but Palpatine was going against the Rule of Two actively, only using his apprentices as pawns in the grand scheme of things. Dooku and Maul both thought they would off Palpatine and continue the Sith tradition but were both cast aside when their usefulness came to an end. Palpatine always planned to rule on his own, now confirmed in the TROS novelization in Disney canon and then back in the Plagueis novel in legends, Plagueis was planning for him and Palpatine to rule together for eternity once he discovered the secret to immortality which prompted Palpatine to believe Plagueis was weak for that, offing him in his sleep and planning to rule the Sith forever on his own, which is not the way of the Sith during the Rule of Two era.

[@alotlessRandomly]

Dropped the armor and gained the drip..

[@gandalf8216]

"Wear the suit, Lord Vader." "But Master, you said-" "Wear the suit. Go on, put on the suit Lord Vader, so that I can turn it off using that button that is Legends canon on your front panel."

[@jaysavage6480]

Hey stupendous! I learned about ur channel from star wars theory and I thought I'd come sub cuz u seem like a super genuine dude and it seems like u really love star wars! Definitely got a new sub in me

[@TheStupendousWave]

Awesome, thank you!

[@jaysavage6480]

@@TheStupendousWave no problem! :) keep doin you man!

[@JustinMinckley]

Lots of education here. Thank you for these wonderful videos.

[@kevin-2.1]

This is fascinating 🤯🤯, awesome video.

[@SHARKVADERS]

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

[@maiaspen307]

Thanks for this!!!

[@wanderhillen2435]

"Amplified it like a magnifying glass" is such a lowkey insult if you think about it. A magnifying glass amplifies light into a bright spot but at the expense of a much wider spot of darkness. "Focusing the dark side like a magnifying glass" means leaving huge swathes of the galaxy open to the Jedi so that you can rule a small portion of it. I don't think ruling a small portion of the galaxy is a worthy ambition for any Sith.

[@AceEverett]

You do have to start somewhere though. Would rather rule a planet first over going straight for a whole galaxy and getting killed.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Revan was the most fashionable. He was so well dressed. Especially with the Mandalorian mask😁

[@hahauhavcrabs09]

we dont talk about the acolyte here man, cmon you know that

[@westongarner-qo2ez]

Like!👍 Awesome video!🤘 Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘

[@EmperorDarthOP]

The Stupendous Wave I am wondering what you think would have happened if this secario came to pass and if you could do a video about it? What If Darth Sidious felt Anakin's birth? Like he felt Anakin being born and after a year or so found out where he was born. Killed Shmi and trained him from birth to be the Prefect Sith. Reaching his Full Potential Both in Power & Darkness. Making Him Darth Sith'ari and overthrowing Sidious once Palpatine became the Emperor. As we all know, George Lucas said that Anakin's full potential was 200% to Palpatine's 100%. But after Mustafar Vader was only 80% to Sidious 100%. But that Sidious always thought that Vader's weakness was laying more in his mind, than his body. But what if this Darth Sith'ari reached Ultimate Sithhood in Both aspects of mind and body. And became the (Not) The Dark Lord of the Sith. (But) THE Darkest Overlord of the Sith. Reaching the roof of what any Sith ever could be in both.

[@kaidorade1317]

Without the mask I am just a man. But with it, I can become something more. A symbol.-Darth Batman

[@DaweSith99]

Loving these longer holocrons.

[@DMBLaan]

I'm still hoping for a video on Freedon Nadd. For such an influential Sith Lord, I don't think there's been a video on this channel dedicated to him and his feats

[@aster4jaden]

Maybe if Palps had wore some Sith Armour he'd been protected from his own Force Lightening that Rey deflected back at him.

[@rodolforoman4656]

Armor looked soo much cooler though and he still gave us a classic examples with grievous and Vader.

[@raymondmorrison8968]

Let's get this man to 2 mill subs!!!

[@binyominmartin3308]

You should do a video about what happened to king adis's axes

[@tregrenos8615]

It’s best to just avoid anything to do with the Acolyte in lore videos since the writers and director admittedly didn’t understand nor use the lore. Everything was done purely for aesthetics with any other reasons being an afterthought.

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

They did use lore to a degree..

[@doheyjoenuts7155]

@@DaG.O.A.T.poorly

[@Chinchilla2310]

@@DaG.O.A.T.memberberries don’t count

[@The_Texorcist]

Well, I think that Sith wearing armor was basically for the same reason the Jedi wore armor at the time… there was big scale conflicts, where having some form of physical protect protection above the force was a necessity. I mean, you could see that even farther down the line with Revan during the Mandalorian wars and even farther down the road with the Jedi during the clone wars. Once the Sith turned to subterfuge and a Jedi turned into peacekeepers the need for armor was gone. Heck even with Vader, his armor wasn’t to protect him physically. It was life support, and something that would strike fear into those who see it.

[@gregsurles4199]

I like to imagine a sith lord in full armor getting owned by a jedi, then laughing and claiming he's been taking it easy on him.The whole time. He takes off each piece of super heavy armor, and it clinks to the floor. Then, with his heavy armor off, he destroys the jedi.

[@andy2200]

Am I the only one thinking of a Sith stepping out of a chrome space ship., dripped out, almost looking like Flavafay?

[@giorgiocotogno3903]

That's obvious, it's because in Kotor you can't use the force powers like the lightning with armor equipped

[@OrangeHatReviews]

Lore I would like to see, if it hasn't been done yet, I can't remember as I have seen so many of your videos, is an analysis on the Legends continuity of how Grievous and Obi Wan NEVER met before the Invisible Hand. An analysis of the Novelization. I am curious if, by certain passages, you will draw the same conclusion. Also, does the Force favor Kenobi? On the Invisible Hand in the Novel, it is almost as if the Force itself possesses Kenobi as he gives himself completely over to it to where he almost attains omnipresence.

[@LordWyatt]

I thought it was practical. Lightsabers made armor almost obsolete (it wouldn’t survive a direct hit but a glance should be fine) however lightsabers were not immune to overwhelming firepower so for lesser beings using blasters it still made sense. As the Sith evolved they’d use massive force abilities to overwhelm their enemies while using the lightsaber as an option or backup plan. The equivalent in our history imo would be the Spaniard Conquistadors: their armor was practically useless against modern European firearms of the day, but against obsidian tipped clubs and arrows they were dominant

[@kingshadow8782]

Fantastic!

[@okamireader5]

During this holocron, a thought crossed my mind regarding Darth Vader: When you brought up how some Sith would imbue their armor with Sith sorcery or alchemy, I wondered, _Why did Darth Vader never attempt to strengthen or heal himself by utilizing Sith sorcery or alchemy?_ I can't truly really recall a time Vader expressed any interests in the mystical aspects of the Dark Side other than attempting to claim the talisman of Karness Muur, the horrific artifact created by the ancient Sith Karness Muur, whose fiendish work led to the creation of the Rakghoul Plague. But the only real reason Vader wanted the talisman was to use it to increase his power, not becuz he was interested in the lore surrounding the relic

[@ericblue5436]

Finally! We got to talk about armor!

[@TheStupendousWave]

Yes we do!

[@venkelos6996]

And of course, shrapnel protection was nice. Even Jedi could struggle to use the Force to deflect a cloud of shrapnel, or the pulse of an explosion, and it might be lame for the Jedi, or Sith, leader to be felled by a simpleton lobbing a frag grenade at them. I also don't know if i woyld totally give Bane his credit there. Once he had an orbalisk, they sort of just spread, and i think his helmet was as much a defense for his ability to breathe, as anything else, lest the dark parasites engulf his head, and they weren't simpky cast off, either, no matter how effective they might've proven to be. Personally, I'm still a fan of Jedi/Sith armor. As a longtime D&D player, who mains casters, im used to rhe idea that most wizards don't wesr armor, often because they CAN'T wear it, but that's not a premise in Star Wars, and I remember, playing my first Jedi Knight (Guardian) character, back when SWTOR was new, hoping to get armor like Master Ven Zallow. I found the boots, but the rest were low drop, high difficulty drops, back before the game's difficulty had been adjusted, so I didn't get more, and had to wait till the shop had something similar, which my Knight still wears, 12 years later.😊 Still, i can appreciate that the two don't; that the Jedi might refrain because not having armor might further incentivize them to find a solution that wouldnt be violent, while the Sith hid in a guise that qerent physical warriors, but psychological, or cerebral fighters, not advertising their true beliefs.

[@MRBRWNTWN]

Throughout this whole video, I could only think of Darth Bane’s Orbelisk armor!

[@JettScott]

There is still a huge gap in the lore from sometime after Darth Zannah/Cognus to just before Tenebrous/Plagues. If Disney hadn't bought SW and shit canned the EU, this era might have eventually been established but alas, will certainly never be explored now.

[@colossalcustoms1298]

I'd love to hear any and everything about the planet hoth

[@Darthren-hc8pe]

Huh, im finally early The Force is definitely with me

[@KugelBlitz0]

Tulak Hord fashionable AF.

[@milesthebunky]

What is music at 00:01 ? Have been looking for a while but am unable to find it.

[@marial8235]

Palpatine wanted to show off his pimp robes, not hide them in armor!

[@viniciusvici5911]

That art at 0:58 looks fire. Can someone tell me the name of the artist or link me to this specific piece?

[@orrenlilly5809]

Keeping Star Wars alive

[@Gor85]

This is great explanation. Makes sense Sith and Jedi dont like armor. Your history of armorms reminded me of Targaryens. And other royality. This is always nice to learn. Tell us more. See you soon

[@tavernburner3066]

The most common weapon in the galexy are blasters. Armour 100% helps with those.

[@JohnathanAnderson-z7e]

Palpatine sounds like Diddy 😂

[@OrangedinoTrexBundle]

Can you do a Whole analysis of General Grievous Personal lightsaber style?

[@liamdowd4391]

Armor might give somebody confidence in themselves. Ok like you know armor wouldn't give you much protection but it gives you confidence and other way to look at it there is confidence in numbers you will have more confidence if someone is having your back

[@Nord_Meadly]

Has there ever been a sith chiss? I know most of them lose the connection to the force after a certain age but has there been an outlier or someone in between?

[@BrokePrairiePrep]

Armour for Jedi and Sith doesn’t need to protect against just lightsabers although it most would definitely help. I’d imagine that when one would use a force push, use a kick or punch and even when flying debris in a battle that strikes a Jedi or Sith that the armour would help blunt the blow when it hits that armour, whereas if they didn’t have the armour it would hit their body without protection. Because 50cals can rip a man in half doesn’t mean you shouldn’t wear flack or padded armour in today’s wars.

[@TimTrueheart]

Why do I need armor when I have the force? -Big Daddy Palps

[@rayswiatek5948]

The sith wore black robes because that's what the costume dept.gave Ian Mcdiramid

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

After I die please let my loved ones know that I did more than I should have

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

If it matters to me it probably matters to a bunch of people that dont realize it yet

[@hypertensiontwist6953]

"Black robes. So hot right now."

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

Old Republic armor was too bulky and too heavy .. I don't blame sidious for not wearing armor

[@bolojohnson711]

Ever considered doing this for Warhammer 40k

[@Scarylatinword777]

Could Vader have (in theory) enchanted parts of his suit with alchemy to make it less... inhibitive?

[@derekfreeman1942]

What about sith trooper armor vs the empire storm trooper armor

[@DarthMirasshtar]

The Sith understand the truth that, Peace is a lie.

[@Goyimdemduc]

That zabrak Jedi battle master was a Savage he almost beat 2 Sith lords on his own evrytime i see that clip i almost get a tear drop in my eye 😂

[@mysticalKobold]

I know this is random but anyone else think Darth Plagueis just looks like Voldemort if he got his he elongated? lol

[@RealParadox85]

Armor made of Mandolorian iron probably would be useful

[@JustLikeTheSimulations]

Sith Assassin Armor was pretty sweet.

[@dustinburkhart8526]

Damn you had to bring that acolyte crap in it.

[@chandansimms9167]

And then in the clone wars the Jedi precede too use children again as child soldiers

[@gargoyles9999]

Palps: Don’t Dew it

[@ATVProven]

Cheaper and cooler to replace body parts sliced off with robot parts than to buy armor 😅

[@lostfound8112]

History of cortosis usage

[@Rickybobby427xyz]

Hhmmmm bane wore armor. He even wore super armor at one point three Jedi couldn’t even scratch him

[@Sci-Fi-Mike]

Why use armor if you can rely on plot armor instead?

[@DarthCrow]

Cool.

[@starswfan]

The armor from the old Sith could of been alchemy enhanced

[@bolojohnson711]

You would make a fine sith lord

[@samuelrobles3737]

Day 622 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

[@dakotalange2858]

And yet he wore armor in dark empire

[@thomasparque7834]

The RoT Sith were both right and wrong to stop wearing armor, they and the Jedi should customize yet highly practical light weight leather armor with steel pieces. The Jedi should have designed theirs that reflects their humility while RoT Sith had their some subtle fear into Jedi enemies

[@rabid_1]

Because Palpatine was not a real Sith lord. Bane had orbalisk's and that why he was the most powerful (until Zana tricked hin)

[@rabid_1]

Poll: Bane vs. Palpatine?

[@kirkdavis2881]

Bane was being slowly killed by that armor.

[@blackc1479]

Bane recognized that the orbalisks had more downs than ups. They would have been great on a sith berserker in a conventional fight. Not so much for someone who had decided stealth was the best long term option. Especially with their darkside rage amplifying properties. (Plus that whole eventually maybe killing you). Real sith lord is way more complicated. The baneite sith changed somewhere along the way. (Imagine that, a sith willing to disregard rules.) Later palps was totally old sith, rule from power etc. Younger palps kinda sorta kept to the bane formula, be subtle, manipulate etc. But he went astray in looking for immortality, along with his old master and maybe others before him. He should have been training a successor, instead of a slave. So true sith is kinda relative, based on what version you're looking for.

[@georgeariza1749]

Lmao kymere 😂😂😂

[@kingshadow8782]

Hey!

[@YourLifeWasting]

Sigh... The Acolyte isn't part of STARWARS cannon Disney doesn't do STARWARS justice

[@SawdustMusic-rd8mj]

“whAAAAAAAA, whAAAAAAA. dIsnEy bAAAAAAAAd.” TSW has why more sense than you do.

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

@@SawdustMusic-rd8mj bad bot

[@SawdustMusic-rd8mj]

@@BurghezulDjentilom dude, check out my music. Can a bot that doesn’t even have an AI voice sound as good as I can?

[@koopa159]

Real Sith slay on the battlefield and the runway.

[@calebshade4991]

He’s just mad he can’t equip anything except light armor

[@DarthVages]

👍

[@vexi_7]

red robes aren’t sith symbols. and nowhere in canon or legends does it ever state that. you’ll actually find in the visual and costume books for the prequels that it’s commonly associated to royal naboo costumes and symbols, very similar to handmaiden symbols and the most leading theory is that it’s a symbol of house palpatine or relevant to naboo culture. a majority of palpatines outfits are influenced by naboo culture and this makes sense. palpatine hated his family, but always had a special place for naboo. we know this for a fact as he had a private residence there and took very special interest in its planet freely allowing rebellion within its monarchy. so do i think the symbols are sith meaning? absolutely not, the robe colour possibly. but again more is theorised that the colour is more similar to a rich colour like naboo, we see similar palettes used for naboo handmaidens .

[@TheStupendousWave]

This is incorrect, in labyrinth of evil the Sith robes are seen again, specifically the burgundy set where it is mentioned as Sith attire, it is also mentioned as Sith attire in the Star Wars visual dictionary as well as added a while later for the Complete visual dictionary. It also appears as Sith attire in the Revenge of the Sith visual dictionary. So with 4 sources I’m confident in saying they are in fact Sith robes with Sith runes embroidered onto them.

[@TheStupendousWave]

The robes of Palpatine represent the transition of power, when he switched from gray to blue and then to red it is meant to illustrate his growing power. His transition of status, when he finally settles back on black robes represents the circle coming to a complete transformation. The black represents the void and darkness in his soul, black will always be and always has been Sidious’ true color, the one meant for him, the rest were simply a show.

[@vexi_7]

@@TheStupendousWave Like I mentioned I don’t oppose the idea of the colour, but it does not specify the symbol. Absolutely the transition of colours over the movies and in visual adaptions we see a slowly move to red robes, but for one that symbol has never been mentioned nor referenced in any other sith related content as a symbol to sith culture. Maroon while yes is a common symbol to visually imply a darker undertone, there’s no source that says those specific symbols are sith. The two references you mean are referring to the colour and not the symbol itself.

[@TheStupendousWave]

I implore you to read the sources provided if you want to check.

[@vexi_7]

@@TheStupendousWave Further to add, if you look at sith language which is what sith runes are, none of the symbols match.

[@Adriiaantorres]

do y’all believe in the next generation of star wars they need to bring more sith armies ?

[@cal593]

Jax is definitely going in the jar.

[@cyrusvile6622]

Sith use the classic force armor, the less clothing the more their armour class is. Its dnd but in real life logic.

[@biggj21]

Whats the difference between a monk and a druid😢

[@MysticTroll]

One has a stick up their a**, the other is the stick

[@Lemuel928]

But the armor was ancient and rarely drip.

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

qimir is a joke character, can safely disregard him