Why Parts Of States Are Trying To Secede (In The Loop)

Political polarization in the U.S. is fueling efforts to redraw political boundaries for states and cities, and even to create new states of cities in places where people who feel their values or views align with the greater area.
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[@richardross119]

When 2 cities make all the decisions for a state (Illinois) and those 2 cities have a political ideology that is the polar opposite of the rest of the state. Why would the remaining counties want to stay in that state?

[@aidanrobertsshank2207]

Maybe if they thought a little bit about it they would want to stay so that each state does not do the same thing and destroy democracy with the balance of the electoral college being completely one sided all because you don't like your neighbor🤔

[@mattalley4330]

For the same reason that a couple with differences seeking a divorce is not the ideal solution. More unity and less division is much more ideal and is something we need more of in this country.

[@francoistombe]

Sounds like Oregon. Three counties (= greater Portland) overruling the rest.

[@richardross119]

Democrat playbook. 1) add welfare incentives 2) invite homeless shelters and then homeless 3) reduce law and order 4) control big cities and states forever

[@xyeB]

@@mattalley4330absolute clown

[@tessareynolds8377]

Time for a National Divorce. No taxation without representation.

[@Cactus270]

Cry cry cry. Don’t love America as it is, leave it. Modern confederate 🗑️

[@MowerMike]

Excellent video, it is refreshing to hear such an important topic covered without a political bias. Thanks!

[@christinepark1398]

I don't want to secede but I will say that my city is being totally mistreated by my state and there seems to be no way for it to be set right.

[@jutsu1]

We need to secede.

[@christinepark1398]

@@jutsu1 The cities are too separate in distance to secede together.

[@garrisonnichols807]

Would be nice to see Texas become a independent country again. The USA will be fine if a few states leave. Actually it might save America.

[@rqlk]

The greater Idaho movement doesn’t propose a secession, it proposes moving state lines. Those are two completely different things.

[@deanchapman1824]

Same thing is happening in New York.

[@earthmama5659]

Texas? Been hearing about Texas splitting off for 60 years.

[@christopherwinter6911]

Same here in Oregon

[@jonathancowden3714]

The George Straits of the USA Should sleep soundly.

[@terrypeckham4744]

If a majority of voters in those Oregon counties want to separate from Oregon then people in the other who oppose this because of their own selfish reasons should just back off

[@marvinbrewer8637]

Maybe measure 114 has a lot to do with it.

[@thomasdeturk5142]

And it’s also because they don’t like Oregon going to Biden. And Oregon has the 2nd longest Democratic stretch for governorship after neighboring Washington State.

[@AmericaFirstRifleman]

I am black and I stand with greater idaho because they're taking my rights away as an american citizen...

[@RyanRuark]

Right wingers are not victims, they should stop acting like it.

[@kpokpojiji]

As long as Idaho can pick up the tab for all that land in Oregon why not? Those conservative Oregonian women and their daughters could then enjoy the loss of freedom, autonomy and growing lack of proper medical care that women are currently enjoying in Idaho. Now if Oregon does this, we here in New York should have the right to say that we no longer want our tax dollars to fund the new greater Idaho. You can pull yourselves up by your bootstraps and be self sufficient. Seems fair to me.

[@jutsu1]

This is good, we should break up.

[@javantgarde]

Upstate and Western NY from NYC and LI, I left the state for Nevada because downstate controls everything and is way too bureacratic and controlling. Even the Upstate Democratic party isn't as toxic as NYCs. Two separate world under one oppressive thumb.

[@rowdy9379]

They want to break up mostly because half are.Liberal and half is Conservative. And they don't even speak the same language.

[@lottiegilbert4681]

What good person living a righteous life with a moral code. Would not want to seperate from our federal government. The u.s. has become so corrupt calling evil good and good evil. Must seperate

[@dawnelder9046]

I have a problem understanding how non stop crime, catch and release, fecal matter on the street, homelessness and drugs everywhere is progressive.

[@jonathancowden3714]

You & several other's are going to have a harder time understanding the brazen incompetent firearm handling asinine backwards logic of NYPD should you chose to take them in

[@davidjackson7281]

Oh really?

[@donadams8345]

That's due to lack of funding from conservatives.

[@bobbackward6461]

That's not progress. It's definitely change, just not GOOD change. To say nothing of what's been happening to the stock market.

[@StillPlaysWithModelTrains1956]

Western Maryland, specifically Garrett, Allaganey, and Washington counties, have been wanting to break away and become part of West Virginia or Pennsylvania because of all the Gerrymandering of Maryland's 6th Congressional District and our absentee Congressman who's been hiding in Potomac, Maryland.

[@JoelGrant-ie4ly]

If the government would simply abide the Constitution, set Term Limits, end Special Interest Groups, and limit the size of the government. We might then be put back on the right track.

[@Zeuswashington]

'Limit size of the government' my question is like how??

[@Noodlepunk]

There is one in Washington as well.

[@velvetmagnetta3074]

Forgive me if this is a stupid or insensitive question, but why don't separatists in counties such as those in Oregon or Marylan/Virginia just move to the states they prefer? I realize you might not want to leave the land your family has lived on for generations, but wouldn't it be infinitely easier to sell your land and move as opposed to getting both states and congress to agree to a split/merger?

[@jutsu1]

Good point, but why move to another state when you can move the state to you.

[@velvetmagnetta3074]

@@jutsu1 huh. Hadn't thought of that. Thanks!

[@snow-rm3jx]

Because they aren't pussies

[@ZS-bg7jo]

Because childish thinking leads to childish ideas. And these people make children look smart

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Why should they move? Urban idiots should not be able to dominate an entire state.

[@PamS.Divelbiss-bf1nx]

Yes, a lot of us would like to secede!!

[@jz00826]

Now that 2022 election has past us. We REALLY need to do this.

[@dankelly5150]

Go Buckhead City ! I have heard of them wanting to become self governing for a while now due to crime going up and soft on crime policies among other things and I would fully support them leaving Atlanta and their woke politics !!

[@aidanrobertsshank2207]

Absolutely! We should also break off every rural area in america to become their own states, swing the balance of the electoral college completely, and install a permanent supreme leader just to own the libs

[@kpokpojiji]

​@@dankelly5150 define woke for us. Thanks in advance.

[@dankelly5150]

@@kpokpojiji You have to ask? 🙄

[@Nicksolo85]

Upstate New York (including western NY where I live) and Long Island want to separate from New York City, which always controls state and federal level elections. Much of upstate NY and Long Island is mostly red/conservative/republican while the highly populated New York City (which as I already stated always has final say in all state and federal level elections) is mainly blue/liberal/democrat. Their votes seal the fate of every other NY state resident. We wanna split the state into 3 autonomous regions, each with its own Governor and legislative body. Sadly, there are those who say "Oh, New York state couldn't survive without New York City." To that, I say... Lets agree to disagree as I feel we'd be just fine without NYC.

[@donadams8345]

The rural part of Oregon that splits off will lose a significant portion of funding that comes from the more populated part of the state. It will see the state services it has deteriorate. Remember, Idaho as a whole is a rural state that is not as well funded as Oregon. Former Oregon residents won't be happy after they join Idaho. They might also want to note that Idaho has a 6% state sales tax, Oregon doesn't have a state sales tax. My suggestion would be to work with the democrats in Salem rather than fight with them.

[@judyostrom8972]

I think if they want to live in Idaho..move there!! That said, the tax thing, OR has income tax..it too sucks, in fact with sales tax at least you have choices!

[@francoistombe]

Democrats in Portland don't "work" with anyone. It's their way....and no highway.

[@marvinbrewer8637]

???? Maybe messure 114 has a lot do with it?????

[@christopherwinter6911]

Been hearing about Oregon splitting hooking up with Idaho for 54 years! we should break up.

[@smurxxx0910]

As well as northern California and southern Oregon to become the state of Jefferson.

[@christopherwinter6911]

@@smurxxx0910 That was what we were talking back in the late 60's

[@mattalley4330]

And it hasnt happened because that line of thinking has always been wrong. Less division and more unity is what we need.

[@PolkRidgeAesthete]

@@smurxxx0910 Yes! The most clearly defensible and oldest still-active effort.

[@Orehockey]

. . . . and so the conflict over “Representation “ continues. Even during the Constitutional Convention the point was made. Anti-Federalists vs. Federalists pointedly argued over the right to vote. I believe that it was Patrick Henry who argued for only property owners having the right to vote. I wonder if this “Debate” will terminate the Nation?

[@laraparks7018]

Divide and conquer NWO master plan; order out of chaos Never let a good disaster go to waste Problem, reaction, solution Ughhhhh

[@alaric49]

Gibberish. What drugs are you on?

[@laraparks7018]

@@alaric49 what do you see on your drugs ? or propaganda coercive mind control? Texas wanted 10k to deliver to NYC Is that right? I'm an American not a. Northeastern liberal democrat

[@Keepskatin]

@Lara Parker Give Daddy the drugs Lisa 🗿

[@laraparks7018]

@@Keepskatin whose Lisa and Lara Parker Mr sobriety? LOL

[@jutsu1]

We hate each other, no NWO involved.

[@pattyrankin517]

I'm all for splitting Washington state right down the centerof the Cascades

[@trebornoslo1951]

Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon should go together and form a new state. Both of them face the same problem with the western portions of their states being controlled by absolute lunatics in Seattle and Portland.

[@SuperTonyony]

I live in Wisconsin, and I'd like to see my state become a province of Canada.

[@ickster23]

Have you seen Canada? I live here, and we are 10 years away from becoming a Totaltarian nightmare.

[@fatcat5817]

Goodbye to your guns and hello M.A.I.D. 😇

[@crs11becausecrs10wastaken]

That would be a gigantic mistake

[@xyeB]

@@crs11becausecrs10wastakenyes

[@taraswertelecki3786]

Then go to Canada and take your totalitarian ideations with you. I do not want to live with the likes of Communism With a Haircut as prime minister.

[@MrMousekillaz]

Do you remember when there was 180 straight days of unrest in front of the Federal Courthouse in Boise Idaho? Yeah that never happened, that happened in Portland Oregon. Nuf said.

[@apexone5502]

Buckhead's city initiative was shot down last month.

[@jutsu1]

Oh no, I hoped they would break up.

[@joshuawaldorf9559]

Of course its shot down because the ones in charge of it are leftists.

[@USA50_]

I support the Greater Idaho Movement, DC Statehood Movement & Puerto Rico statehood Movement. I also support partitioning larger states like California, Florida and Texas into smaller (more governable) states. Thanks 👍🇺🇲☺️

[@richardross119]

I would rather give Puerto Rico it's independence. They were granted self rule by Spain and later that year, Spain signed a Peace Treaty giving the United States Guam and Puerto Rico.

[@richardross119]

There is a reason DC is not a state. Do you want the US capital controlled by a governor?

[@USA50_]

@@richardross119 Other countries have made special districts for their Capital city in which the physical property line is considered an administrative area and no one lives on the grounds. I think that would be best.

[@smurxxx0910]

Texas would want to become their own country with separate republics before dividing in multiple states in the US.

[@USA50_]

America has been through changes before and we survived. We will survive this as well 🙂.

[@jamiemoody2675]

God...the Lord God of Abraham will destroy this wicked nation.

[@taraswertelecki3786]

And you'll be destroyed with it if that happens. Be careful what you wish for, it might come true.

[@KimarShabbaz]

So what you're saying is there will be future splits followed by major hostilities. In short, CW2

[@taraswertelecki3786]

The splits are already here, and spreading like the cracks in Titanic's decks after the keel failed and bent upwards.