Why 'PBA's Greatest 40' is controversial

The Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) has recently celebrated its 40th anniversary by heralding the 40 Greatest PBA players.

[@brownmonkey5782]

My full respect to NELSON ASAYTONO.

[@buzzvideoz1822]

Kung ako kay idol nelson if isasama sya sa top 50 eh wag na sya pumunta! Ginago sya nang 4 na beses nang PBA! Parang nanlilimos nang recognition ang tao. Na deserving naman.

[@louiecordero5843]

Totoo di na dapat siya pumunta

[@beastmamba11]

Korek tma k jan brad,pinulitika

[@louiecordero5843]

Si El Presidente nga di pumunta kahit kasama siya, kasi yung iba kasama kahit naglalaro pa ,pinulitika talaga

[@beastmamba11]

@@louiecordero5843 tma k jn lods isma mo pa sa d pumunta c atoy co at duremdes

[@TSAX]

Phil-Am Basketball Association

[@rafaelatienza3938]

Kelly Williams Jason Castro Mark pingris magagaling silang players pero Hindi pa sila greatest may mga mas deserving kesa sa kanila

[@MegaBruno233]

Tama

[@michael._3345]

Tama

[@eggwhiteonly]

jayson castro, marc pingris, arwind santos deserve nmn nila, pero masyado pang maaga. may itatakbo pa yung karera. dapat yung nilagay, Nelson Asaytono, Danny Siegle at Dennis Espino.

[@gachagalaxy_claireplays6496]

Pingris? Really? Lol

[@louiecordero5843]

There are rumore that El President do not attend the ceremony cuz some of the awardee are still playing

[@torguezz4580]

Tama , mali ang pagkakapili

[@louiecordero5843]

@@torguezz4580 popularity over credivility

[@louiecordero5843]

@@torguezz4580 bro the NBA 50 greatest NBA players all of them are retired some are dead other si disable

[@KabutungKabayo]

Nung si Shaq nasama sa 50 Greatest nung 1997 at 5th year pa lang niya, di siya dumalo sa Ceremony kasi siya mismo nagsabi di siya deserving.

[@christophercristobaljr7588]

NELSON ASAYTONO AND PAUL ALVAREZ SHOULD HVE BEEN INCLUDED!

[@bambooposadas5744]

Nelson Asaytono... Should be in 25 greatest player... He deserve to be in the list of pba greatest player...

[@mharlobiesantos6600]

ASAYTONO! dapat nandyan...

[@jbanasen5438]

Mharlobie Santos tama jawo wala namn alam yan sikat lang mas magaling pa si the bull

[@wicktrix5747]

Lutong macao yan, si Asaytono dapat nadyan, tingnan nyo stats nyan,slasher, perimeter, three point area, inside and outside malakas ang game at pang crucial kaya kapag dying seconds nasa kanya ang bola. Si Jawo kahit kailan joker!

[@muestrathramos5631]

Ito record ni asaytono 17 pba season 7 championship 2 bestplayer of the conference 3 mythical 1st team 9 all star 5th leading scorers in pba history Wala sa top 40 greatest pba player Paanong nangyari hindi nakasama si the bull????!!!!!

[@elmerdelacruz3397]

Dapat asaytono,tlagang laging leading s statistic,sa voting lang ng press nasulot ni agustin.pero panlaban ng pinas sa int'l competition,

[@layuponthedownlow]

Nelson asaytono pinaka malakas na PF ng pba history, hindi sinali. Mas marami awards at championship si alvin, pero nelson grabi ang lakas. Parang si benjie sa center. Yang dalawa grabi parang mga super sayan yang dalawa

[@uncledhrew9391]

nelson asaytono at danny seigle dapat andyan... mas deserving sila sa iba

[@jasongray8266]

Matanda na kasi nag select dpat bata rin ang ng review🙉😁😁may active pa sinali.😄

[@balmonduser1242]

Why jun limpot not included in the list his a main man and sometimes highest paid player in pba.

[@jamessoften5927]

KERBY RAYMUNDO? TOP40? TALAGA? PRANG WALA NMN AKO NATNDAAN NA MAGNDANG GINAWA YAN SA PBA..😂😂😂

[@iksyojip]

mas maganda manuod ng uaap womens volleyball kesa PBA.....

[@mikaponce9917]

Ang bumangga Giba!!! the bull asaytono.... Ano ginagawa ni arwind Santos liit ulo at Kirby diyan?

[@jrj387]

Danny Seigle, Asaytono, Cariaso ,Hwakins wala vs Santos,Raymundo,Pingris,Williams sino mas Good Player

[@52n10]

+Joel Tama! Noli Locsin din

[@jitlv]

It's okay na sinali yong mga current players cuz they deserve it, pero yong iba hindi. Kelly Williams, Raymundo, Pingris, Santos, Castro shouldn't be there man. Dapat sila Danny Seigle, Asaytono, Cariaso nandyan sila

[@johnpetermarzan8688]

+Jeffrey Tocao tama!! pati ako

[@theonesaint3937]

nice observation bro.

[@mysteryguy4356]

Jeffrey Tocao ??? Jason castro hnd ksma?. Cryoso kb?. Best point guard in asia??. I dnt thnk so

[@rcbautista249]

Si Arwind at Kelly, pasok na since nanalo na ng MVP.

[@armelovejerano126]

kalokohan yang pilian na yan, nasaan si asaytono!!! sa mga nakakaalala noon dapat naging MVP sya laban kay patrimonio

[@louiecordero5843]

Buti nga di sinama si Kelly Nabuang

[@learnwithmaamjawe5944]

Nelson Asaytono, Jun Limpot and Jef Cariaso should be on that list.

[@bienvenidopayabyab1224]

Mga Sir dapat po kapag tinawag na The Greatest PLAYERs yung mga nag Retired na! Larry Mumar,Jun Papa,Danilo Florencio,Nelson Asaytono...Marami pa that time....

[@repadyan]

danny siegele wala?

[@zpacify]

Nelson should have made it to the top 25. Duremdes was chosen too early four years into his career.

[@Negat1ve0n3]

Yep totally agree. 95 cya ng mvp. Maaga pa masyado. Nging matic ksi pasok kpag may mvp. Paano sila abe king yoyoy villamin tuadles siegle racela?

[@ramilpanganiban4554]

@@Negat1ve0n3 si vergel Meneses ang 1995 PBA MVP sir

[@Negat1ve0n3]

@@ramilpanganiban4554 I stand corrected sir. Thank you very much.

[@76cancer]

95 na draft si Duremdes. 98 siya nagka mvp. 2000 siya napili as one of the 25 Greatest. Mvp winner kasi at automatic inclusion kahit 5 years pa lang siya sa pba. Actually he was the youngest among the selection.

[@janmichaeltorzar5033]

Bakit kasi pag MVP, automatic na kasama? pano kung 1 year lang nag MVP, tapos naging bano na the rest of career?

[@dinhollarena7988]

The Bull dapat included na sa 25 greatest pba player At si Bong Alvarez sa top 40. Iba un contribution nila sa liga, kahit di man sila naging MVP

[@gracecloud-gb3et]

Sana lang nanoon at mapanood to ng bulok na members ng selection committee! Hay, nakakalungkot para sa mga deserving but unrecognized great pba prayers!

[@RoyskiSrCustodio]

PINGRIS? OVER ASAYTONO ? OR EVEN VILLAMIN? NAMAN! ANO ANG TALAGANG MABIGAT MAN NIYANG AWARDS NA PWEDENG TUMALO SA DALAWANG NABANGGIT?

[@josephecampo]

I like the convictions of these two young men towards the issue...

[@joheikemapa26]

Asaytono dapat nasama, di kasi type ni jaworski si Asaytono.

[@TitoErdong]

Tama ka Sila Ang mga namili sa List na yan

[@TitoErdong]

Asaytono is deserving talaga mapasama jan

[@mandytv2023]

Sinama ni jawo c loyzaga ay retired na c loyzaga nung lumabas ang top 25.

[@clarieyao1350]

C jawo kc wla nmang alam yan kung hindi manakit ng player at mag mura.

[@nicoaguilos14]

tama

[@fg5353]

asaytono the most versatile foward

[@freddieagripa7666]

May award ba yan sa depensa?

[@NonoyJimboyBuddy]

Ilang besses din yan nakasama sa most depensive team, kaso andyan si Jerry e d defense minister and mas deserve ni Jerry yon

[@williamkinglopez]

ano na namang katangahan to? @@freddieagripa7666

[@ronnieafroilan5381]

Nelson asaytono glenn capacio jun limpot wla anu yan.

[@nivlac2k894]

criteria of picking those 15 and label as part of the greatest. is just simply pathetic. i dont even know why on earth kelly williams is ahead of danny siegel. and many others.

[@jackrobinluce4828]

Sa tutuo laang marami talaga naiinggit Kay Nelson Asaytono nong kalakasan sa prime nya talagang npakalakas mag laro ni Da Bull kamador taga maasahan

[@zpacify]

Stupid. Walang criteria ginamit diyan. Just because mag MVP kasali na? Pano kung 2-3 years ang naglaro tapos nag MVP? Asaytano never won but was runner up 3x! and was in the top 5 at least 5 times. He's more deserving than Magsanoc and even Samboy who never completed a single season. Having said that, Samboy would have been a shoe in because he really is one of the top 25 players ever but due to injuries would have not made it if not for being popular, just like Bernard King who was a great player but was not included in the top 50 greatest NBA players.

[@masteryoda7583]

Some of them deserves to be there, a lot of them DON’T!!! Palakasan talaga

[@brownmonkey5782]

Totally unfair... Asaytono was wasted. Goodbye PBA

[@mytemawz]

yung top 40 ng PBA is equivalent na ng NBA HOF..So dpt mga retired ang nalalagay dyn sa list...Cguro maganda dyn eh yung sangay ng gobyerno pra sa sports eh gumawa ng isang committee pra parangalan ang mga retired PBA players...at tawagain nila itong Philippine Basketball Hall OF Fame.... Gawa nalang ng bagong listahan at award...at dapat ang criteria eh retired players na nag karoon ng malaking contribution sa philippine basketball scene or nag karoon ng maraming awards or championship...dapat yung bawat ma eelect sa hall of fame eh atleast minimum 5 years ng retired....and dapat 3 years ang election... Philippine Basketball Hall Of Fame Life Time Awardee List eto dapat mga category retired players category: retired head coaches retired refs and table committe retired pbl/pba commissioner My Top 40 PBA Hall Of Famers F.Webb J.Abarientos B.Adornado R.Brown P.Cezar K.Duremdes D.Florencio R.Jaworski S.Lim F.Arnaiz H.Calma A.Co R.Fernandez F.Hubalde L.Beng V.Meneses A.Patrimonio R.Magsanoc B.Paras A.Guidaben J.Lastimosa B.Fabiosa J.Codinera A.Agustin A.Caidic M.Paner R.Evangelista B.Hawkins Z.Realubid C.Loyzaga B.Ravena O.Racela P.Jarencio F.Pumaren G.Capacio N.Asaytono J.Limpot M.Aquino N.Locsin Y.Dignadice My next 10 additional players to complete my 50 PBA Hall of Famers B.David R.Marata D.Espino A.Teng P.Juinio J.Cariaso R.Santos A.Siegel D.Ildefonso J.Alapag

[@zenmar2415]

Maraming puedeng idagdag sa 50 dahil andaming nakuha ni Junemar na mvp kaya maramin available na slot ,baka makapasok na si Nelson niyan.

[@cristophercruz8476]

sana isama nila si jun limpot kasi kasi talaga isa si " the BIG DEAL" sa talaga naman nagdala sa liga nung 90's at 00's.. magaling pa nga sa ibang naging mvp yan..

[@ernestobraganza2103]

asaytono limpot cariaso Hawkins David locsin balingit

[@bulo_yagon]

Tama ka brod! an daming mga magaling na datihan ang indi nila sinama.. bulok talaga!

[@edgardelacruz3205]

asaytono,siegel espino limpot villamin cabahug hawkins

[@JasonTheTransporter]

Did they revolutionized their respective positions? Or did they made a very big impact on the game itself? Raymundo, Williams, Castro, Pingris & Santos....questionable ang pagkakasok nila talaga...too early for them to be included sa current 15.

[@rgardiano88cdcqatar17]

Asaytono dapat don pa yan sa top 25

[@maenikseu]

Dapat talaga kasama si nelson asaytono dito . 17 years kang naglaro sa liga 7 championship . 2 times candidate for mvp . 2 years leading in statistical points. Kung yung committee na pumili ay si jawo at robert non baka hindi kasama si nelson kc bias yun eh . ayaw nila kay the bull despite of his achivement pero si Quinito Henson na kung tawagin ay the The Dean . Common sense naman. we were not born yesterday.

[@mugenjin1986]

Dun pa lang sa greatest 25 player list dapat andun na eh.

[@MrTagapinasako]

Magkaano kailangan ibayad para makasali sa top 40?

[@giacomogiacomo1194]

Asaytono over Kerby Raymundo.Tuadles over Aquino

[@Xtoph6540]

ikumpara mo nga si Raymundo kay Asaytono at Siegel. Wtf!!!!

[@gracecloud-gb3et]

So true! Apir tayo jan!

[@I.TChannel497]

hahaha si kirby napasama..dapat nga d kasama yan..wala nmang naiambag yan!

[@gracecloud-gb3et]

@@I.TChannel497 si "ako mvp!" Hehehe....bitter nung d xa ang nag-mvp

[@kippyayong2364]

I am not a big fan of asaytono pero dapat nasa list sya sa 40. He was one of best.. and yung active should not yet be part of it. Ibang category na lang.sana sila.. just saying

[@jenniferlizares8741]

Criteria: Individual award Individual stat Number of years the player hold on to his stat ranking before being overtaken by another player. 10 year career and up Championship won Times of being a Philippine Team(jr and pro) How large was the Impact that change the game. Active Coaches votes Special 14 committee votes (rep from the comissioner office, referee, media, team owners, psc ) The top 12 result will be declared.

[@jaidmangampo74]

Bolado Polistico Wilmer ong Ej feihl Poch juinio Sila ang dapat nilagay

[@mugenjin1986]

Benny cheng Joey guanio Joey mente Jayvee gayoso Asan mga to?

[@giacomogiacomo1194]

Chito Loyzaga over Danny Siegel? Really?.

[@robycruz4927]

Kalokohan ang pag pili ng 40 greats. loko mga namili mga bias! asaytono seigle cariaso and racela mas deserve sila compare sa ibang nilagay! kalokohan bias...

[@raiyan]

Nelson Asaytono Olsen Racela Danny Siegle Jun Limpot Should be in the list

[@christiancanicula1545]

..,must be danny seigle, olcen racela, nelson asaytono,

[@janela5619]

Asaytono should be there. Zandro limpot also.show respect to the bull, 5th in all leading scorers ..raymundo pingris santos kalukohan

[@jjlakbaytours31]

Nelson Asaytono deserve top 40

[@nicoaguilos14]

5th scoring champ asayto dapat dun pa lng tapos n usapan eh

[@manilastyleclassics6850]

kelly williams? 3-4 productive years lng nabigay nyan , marc pingris ? great role player but never a superstar ,

[@rovieneverstops]

nakita ko na naman to ako’y nabanas na naman. Wala dapat jan si Raymundo, Pingris. Castro? too early, as well as Arwind pero Ping and Kerby? Why ???? Seigle, Olsen and Nelson Asaytono should be there

[@nemesis5045]

Asaytono wala?

[@samueltrabuco946]

Nsa import kc record ni asaytono or statistics dun yta nka lagay, kya hndi nla nakita gnon kc kalakas yun mag laro dti, dpat kung May attitude man issues about kay asaytono hndi personal nla, yung laro nya tingnan at contribution nya sa PBA nag lalaro p cya isa cya magaling mag laro khit s greatest 25 plyr pwede cya isama

[@zpacify]

Chito Loyzaga? Great defensive player but not top 40.

[@direkramseychikboy9102]

yes I agree. Fan ako ng Ginebra pero put Chito sa ibang team he cannot carry it sa quarter finals as a franchise player. Put Jaworski or Fernandez to a lottery team they can bring them into a Championship. that separate from greatness to an ordinary player. Lagay mo si James Yap sa isang kulelat na team magiging contender yun. to be fair.

[@user-be3go4yz4l]

Kahit sa 25 Greatest dapat pasok si The Bull Nelson Asaytono

[@pardzfajardo4722]

Danny Seigle dapat kasali, almost the 2nd player to win Rookie MVP nung 1999... Controversial nung binigay ky PARAS. Kaya yun PBA nilalangaw na ngayon dahil sa mga systema. Teams are not balance, just 1 example...

[@renatoplatajr1656]

CARDONA EJ FEIL BALINGIT ABUEVA NABONG ESPINAS RICH ALVARES BOLADO HUGNATAN BELGA THOSS LA REVILLA SAM EMMAN. SILA DAPAT KASAMA😃

[@iksyojip]

pingris is just new version of padim israel or ricky relosa....Yves Dignadice is way better i think.

[@JoseJose-yg1mf]

Pingris = overrated

[@danielleposada4037]

Agree.... Yves dignadice deserve to be in this 40 greatest

[@mightykc9735]

nelson asaytono bong alvarez danny siegle bong hawkins jun limpot gerry esplana olsen racela abe king arnie tuadles dennis espino

[@gracecloud-gb3et]

I agree with u! Dynamite Danny and Rara Racela fan here!

[@shanich556]

why they never included the BULL??? PBA nga naman pinupulitka rin! with all do respect! Nelson Asaytono deserves to be recognized in the PBA wag nyo naman ipagkait un!!!

[@76cancer]

Politically motivated. Selection committe walang credibility.

[@wilfredlenon9181]

Where's Jimmy Manansala..... Manny Victorino???

[@jeffreylittawa3278]

Dapat mga ito ang nakasama jan Asaytono Siegle Cariaso Racela Limpot

[@Jhoelabs1234]

Why is Arwin Santos is in the list pft Asaytono deserves it

[@francisangelomendozaromero]

Asaytono should be in 25 GP actually!

[@rodneygammad]

chito loyzaga???? really? bata ni jawo? banko sa toyota yan noh. asan si arnie tuadles? 1st roy at mythical team. starter ng toyota. asan si asaytono???! loyzaga??? really????!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@r-gheepaga648]

rodneygammad arnie tuadles patay na..binaril

[@rodneygammad]

r-gheee paga. alam ko. so? porke napatay ba eh disqualified na?

[@r-gheepaga648]

Alam mo plang patay na bkt hinahanap mo pa😂😂😂😂

[@rogelioesguerra7832]

I don't now how to select the greatest PBAplayer.

[@argeldejesus5193]

Alvin patrimonio sinabi nya sa interview ng pba motoclub na kay nelson asaytono sya nahihirapan ka bantayan

[@Jhoelabs1234]

Active players shouldn’t be in the list....Asaytono deserves it

[@TSAX]

Politics Basketball Association or Phil-Am Basketball Association

[@Abrahamjr.Federico-ux7nz]

Walang duda na paminta ung selection comette mga pogi lang pinili may dimple lang hindi naman karapatdapat*"'

[@jaredmethuselah5813]

BAKIT WALA SI PAUL "BONG" ALVAREZ??????????!!!!!!

[@azaleasamantha2119]

Adik un bro.kya di sinama.dami kaso

[@theonesaint3937]

kumokopya tau sa ginagawa ng nba na nagka roon ng selection sa greatest players, pro yung system na ginamit pra sa pagpili ,kagagohan..e add mo pah ang walang kwentang selectors, jaworski at webb..asaytono,hawkins,seigle,limpot,Pablo should be included.

[@76cancer]

Yung selection committee kasi bias. Jawo, webb and Ginebra Fan Robert Non?

[@othellorazon3320]

yung 25 greatest, di naman lahat dun naging MVP. Yung 50 greatest NBA players hindi naman lahat naging MVP. Being an MVP recipient should not be a guarantee for inclusion in the list greatest basketball players.

[@rosspen5539]

Mas maraming greatest player nung 80 and 90s kesa s sa ngaun, matatangkad player nila ngaun pero ala kang makikitang magandang laro s kanila, d gaya nun panahon asaytono at iba n aabangan mu ung dakdakan s ring

[@epepmeneses6976]

Romulo Mamaril, bakit wala din sa 40 greatest player?

[@crisdeguzman7669]

they should not limit to the numbers, its better best players of era

[@rodneygammad]

eto lang yan. kung pipili ka sino ang pick mo: asaytono, tuadles, abe king, chito loyzaga; si loyzaga ang huling kukunin. as usual politika. jawo ang isa sa judge. eh bata nya yan si loyzaga. #PWE!

[@raymundfernandez4172]

Nang dahil Kay June Mar mababalanse o mahahabol inclusions Ang mga dapat. Danny S and Asaytono.

[@jenniferlizares8741]

Active players should not be included

[@rodulfoolesco23]

Kelly williams!??? Whattt..

[@jjlakbaytours31]

Yan panget sa criteria pba masyado politika

[@NICEONECLUB-cs8yq]

Dpat d muna sinali sina castro at pingris.

[@rogerarguelles7737]

Nelson should be in the top 25 greatest player.

[@crisdeguzman9992]

dapat retired na kaya nga greatest. based on stats

[@jamesromillepolo3207]

Syempre malaka yung pingris. Manugang ni bossing eh. Kahiyaan nalang kina asaytono, racela, seigle, cariaso, etc. Kahit stats man lang pagbasehan.

[@kenerno312]

Nelson Asaytono, Bong Hawkins and Jeffrey Cariaso were the biggest snubs.. Raymundo over Asaytono already is a big trash..

[@jonathancalis2870]

malakas daw lasi mag bigay ng regalo ang mga bagong player, si nelson asaytono ay di mahilig mag bigay ng regalo, ganon kasimple lang yan, kaya sa mga gusto mapasama sa susunod na mga award award na yan ngayon palang umpisahan nyo na bisugin ang mga official sa PBA at 100% kasamaka sa mga awardings in the future.

[@jenniferlizares8741]

Top 10 all stat leaders muna.

[@beastmamba11]

D na nag MVP cla Castro at Greg na inaasahan ni Carlo

[@conradocalma1729]

Maraming nagsasabi na mali ang pagpili ng mga 40 greatest data nde kassma yung nde pa nag retired kc naglalaro pa cla ok lang yung 40 kc 40 years na ang PBA.

[@raymonsalanio3365]

For me, kerby, Williams, not deserving....pwd ilagay c asaytono and Danny s more deserving silang 2....