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[@yungifez]

Us PHP devs be minding our own business but people be looking for trouble 🤣🤣

[@dsfz476]

Lol

[@phteven9610]

Php devs catching strays 😂😂😂

[@ibrofro]

We are monks.

[@josephvictory9536]

Honestly i have more respect for it since the slander videos. Before it was pure greek, now its greek i can use to efficiently do certain website functionality. And wierdly i appreciate it where its good.

[@imt3206]

Why? I mean, a lot of people seem to not like php, but I’ve heard good things about php devs regarding their pay. Is it true?

[@TomNook.]

Its still used in universities, banks and well... everywhere. Maybe not in the Twitterverse.

[@Sentherus]

Of course Tom Nook would be a Java developer

[@chullupa]

Lots of java devs in india

[@jsonkody]

Yeah, it's called legacy code 🥲👍

[@TheGodofcookiez]

It’s also used in Android app development (as well as kotlin which is interoperable with Java)

[@1aboPLZ]

I'm using Kotlin 😂 The only issue (minor) is the JVM is kinda chunky

[@declanmoore]

I love that whenever anyone hates in java they specifically pick out the hello world and declare it horrifically verbose.

[@justanothergunguy7146]

“Oh no, I have to put my entry point in a class! The world is ending!”

[@Croix1]

i mean it is horrifically verbose. makes java an utter nightmare for beginners. also, the way java FORCES OOP is really fucking shitty, because it limits your possibilities (although this is at least slightly improved on these days). tbh, the worst thing about java is how it's used, most java code is fucking awful qnd overcomplicated, for some reason java programmers just love making insanely complicated structures in code when they are absolutely not needed. i say this as someone who works with java.

[@nicholasbrooks7349]

@@Croix1 I started to learn coding months ago Java is easy.

[@Croix1]

@@nicholasbrooks7349 Do you perfectly understand the OOP paradigm? Do you know how inheritance and objects work like the back of your hand? I personally doubt it, but if you do, that's good for you. However, for most people it is significantly difficult (as it was for me when I started). I am still learning details about it, and I've been coding for almost 10 years (albeit most of that time with somewhat less OOP languages).

[@michaelk.jensen1611]

​@@Croix1 but you can start programming java by just knowing or rathter following a few idioms of java. And you can program is a procedural language with dot . Notation. So you don't need to know about all these things . You don't need to know an awful lot of inheritance. Polymorphism to use the language or classes or create a few some classes yourself. I think it's a good beginner language. Better than python for example.

[@user-tk7sc4gz2v]

There are two kinds of programming languages: There is one that nobody uses and the other one everyone complains about!

[@aiosquadron]

Note that this also applies to natural languages.

[@ratofthecity6351]

the one exception is c. its not as popular anymore, but i think most programmers have interacted with it in some way, plus the kernel devs, and the only complaint i really hear about it is the unhelpful error messages when handling memory

[@solarchat9413]

Ok, so in which category python lies?

[@idontknowanygoodnames1498]

​@@solarchat9413python is one of the more disliked languages

[@mazymetric8267]

​@@ratofthecity6351 C was quite hated back in the day. So much so that when it's alternative, C++ came out, It surpassed C in quite a short amount of time in term of usage.

[@cupswithphones]

there are a dozen languages based on Java and javascript is *not* one of them...

[@DasBauer]

The name is 😉 They jumped on the java hype train

[@cl-7832]

@@DasBauer true, but the language is still not based off of java...

[@HrHaakon]

Yeah, JS is Scheme with Java-like syntax.

[@aoeu256]

@@HrHaakon javascript is a messed up version of scheme, scheme does not silently ignore errors or do type coercion or have Java like syntax…. Scheme has a regular syntax where you can represent code as symbols and has quasi quoting and support for syntax extensions and also has stuff like continuations which could be used to build custom control flow. schemes macros allow you to optimize and run any arbitrary code at compile time, check for conditions statically, and embed dsls. The scheme eval function can be written in a page of code and you can extend or make your own version of eval to do a lot of things for debugging, custom compilers/interpretation, creating guis to visualize code execution.

[@HrHaakon]

@@aoeu256 Yes, and JS was based off of scheme. It's a historical fact.

[@thisisnotok2100]

javascript is absolutely NOT based on java

[@shaggyaxe]

Surprised more people aren't chiming in on that.

[@BP-328]

I recently learned Java after previously learning Javascript and there are essentially no similarities. The syntax is different, they are structured differently, and what they are good/convenient at using differ. One of the few similarities is using a semi-colon to end the line.

[@goldkaban]

That sentence made me definitely skip this channel 🤦

[@mpi3602]

Well the name of JavaScript is actually based on Java(unsurprisingly). Basically they didn't know what to name it and named it after the hottest backend language back then. Also the syntax is C-like in both.

[@brdrnda3805]

@@mpi3602 actually, they had a name: LiveScript. But as Java was gaining traction Netscape decided to rename it.

[@EasonTek]

javascript was not based off of java, it was originally called mocha but changed to javascript because of marketing.

[@somebody_2837]

Have you seen javascript's class system? It's exactly like Java's, except for the public, and private parts (No pun intended). Not to mention the Math library in Javascript.

[@Daniel_WR_Hart]

@@somebody_2837 JS's class syntax came in ES6, and the way it works under the hood is pretty different because it uses prototypal inheritance

[@ipodtouch470]

@@somebody_2837 couldn’t be more wrong JavaScript doesn’t even have classes . That’s all syntactic sugar

[@somebody_2837]

@@ipodtouch470 That's like saying C++ doesn't have classes, it's all syntactic sugar for structs. I meant to talk about the syntax, not the system.

[@richienguyen2703]

@@somebody_2837 no. Class in C++ is an actual class definition that contains a virtual table and a virtual table pointer for complicated things. Basically they’re are structs (combined types with a virtual table for inheritance and methods). Meanwhile, a class in JS is technically a sugar syntax for function. You can literally assign an inline class to a variable, just as how you in JavaScript.

[@zahawolfe]

You try writing an entire backend in python and i'll try writing one in java and i think we both know whose will have fewer bugs. Java is more verbose, but with modern IDEs and tooling, it's actually pretty pleasant to work in

[@jamespower5165]

Shouldn't we be comparing Java to something like Kotlin(which will probably be very stable in a couple of years?) Python and Java aren't built for the same things

[@abdultheseekerofknowledge4453]

Why would you pick Java when you have C#

[@maervo4179]

​@@abdultheseekerofknowledge4453 Spring. It's way better than any C# Framework. Also GraalVM making your App start in Microseconds with very small binaries.

[@theseriousaccount]

Gotta love it when python crashes at runtime for stuff that would have been caught at compile time in any sane language. And not to mention the dependency hell of Python. Good luck with distribution. Python is a scripting language pretending to be a programming language.

[@bigboibif7798]

Jfc I completely agree, my boss is having me write a backend in python and it's hellish

[@gamesandstuff7724]

Honestly, with a modern IDE, defining the main class is as simple as writing psvm and pressing tab. Printing is as simple as writing sout and pressing tab. The bigger annoyance I think is the occupation of screen space. There are some non-intuitive things in Java, but compared to a language such as Python which has much weirder features such as multiple inheritance, next-in-line hierarchy, implicit data types, and lack of many design patterns such as function overloading, interfaces, abstract classes and proper access modifiers, it is still irreplaceable.

[@Techy_Adi]

are u talking about jet brains intelli j idea ?

[@gamesandstuff7724]

@@Techy_Adi yes but I would assume that others support it as well.

[@Dev-Siri]

​@@gamesandstuff7724 yeah, some IDEs like vscode create the class automatically

[@Sentherus]

Python includes all the features you say it lacks. As far as I’m aware python does not include much implicit type conversion, (try adding a number to a string for example) instead it uses a concept called duck typing that languages like C# are starting to take inspiration from, which may be where the confusion comes from. Many of the design patterns you use in Java you can use in Python, but there are usually better alternatives that are less verbose that you’ll end up using instead which is why properly written Python code does not look like Java code.

[@darkmaster666.]

Ya I was surprised when he said it doesn't have function overloading, abstract class and interfaces. Made me question my own knowledge.

[@Ihavetoreturnsomevideotapes]

Really like java. It's easier to understand OOPs concepts in and spring boot is a great framework too. You can generate most of the boilerplate with few shortcuts

[@saswatahalder4887]

EXACTLY!

[@theskepticcoder7883]

java android sucks tho.. you have to do soo much to get so little results

[@frenton6]

Jhipster make it more easy

[@lalodominguez7121]

Nice. Very nice. Let's see paul Allen's programming language

[@flyhighflyfast]

psvm, sout, @Data from lombok make writing Java less verbose

[@MAGIHAG]

It is nothing more fun than maintaining a huge software project written by juniors in a language like js or python.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

You'll hate Mouse Simulator 2D then. A pure mess. Me being autistic probably doesn't help either.

[@ricdotnet]

Truth is if you pick on java and praise python you are not a programmer or software engineer. You just use other peoples libraries to make yourself look cool in front of your friends 🤣

[@Iam_inevitabIe]

We PHP niggas are happy on this side

[@otakukvothe7160]

Java dev here, I have worked with JS +Swift before, both modern languages, and Java won't feel awkward as long as you have a good IDE (IntelliJ). All the boilerplate stuff doesn't need to be typed, but inserted through shortcuts. So if u know your way around the IDE, it's all the advantages without the biggest disadvantages.

[@HrHaakon]

Just use lombok. Now you don't have to even write it...

[@nbamastermind]

Totally true, InteliJ is amazing ✨. Eclipse == 😭

[@beeda69]

I'm learning through eclipse. Will i be ok?

[@HrHaakon]

​@@beeda69 Eclipse is okay, just learn shortcuts like the one for OPEN RESOURCE, RENAME etc,

[@antonioandre23]

​@@beeda69there's also Apache IDE works for both Java and PHP, im finding it decente. I prefer it Over intelliJ Ultimate (yes, I have free from university license but I still prefer the actual free one)

[@arhanivaya]

The reason why people hate it, because they suck at it 😂😂

[@omkarkanase1349]

Yup 😂 because their first languag is JS or Python

[@Muhammad-sx7wr]

They pick on it because of its licensing agreement and because Google got sued by Oracle.

[@pixelsam123]

You are not allowed to say that if you've never manually managed memory

[@AR10.]

​@@pixelsam123what language do you recommend to start with for a complete beginner? I have no prior experience in programming.

[@pixelsam123]

@@AR10. one that's easy. Ignore people who say you're a "soydev" or whatever. Your motivation is the most important thing.

[@theabbie3249]

Verbosity is only a problem for beginners, in large softwares, it improves readability.

[@Semudara]

Hear, hear! Even as a beginner, I'm grateful for the verbosity, because I know it'll be helpful down the line.

[@ColinPaddock]

Verbosity usually doesn’t increase significantly with the size of the software. So tiny, toy programs in Java are “excessively verbose”, whereas, in large software, Java code is pretty much as succinct as you can get without sacrificing clarity. At least, if you know what you’re doing.

[@drcl7429]

drives you nuts when you are first learning it but as you become more mature you come to appreciate it and it does actually save a lot of time when you make use of objects and testing properly.

[@supernovic99]

I learnt python a bit and wanted to start with Java. I actually found it much easier. It's more structured than python and everything becomes clear if we understand how objects work but I guess I need to complete python to actually compare them.

[@danielkoch8736]

Java has way better runtime than Python... thats something many people forget

[@arthurgeier2545]

Cython > pure Python.

[@daysofgrace2934]

if you want easy Python, if you want fast C++

[@danielkoch8736]

@@daysofgrace2934 C++ is fast, yes. Still doesn't change the fact, that Java is faster than Python.

[@nocturnal1234]

​@@daysofgrace2934python is the slowest interpreted language😂

[@theshermantanker7043]

The HotSpot VM is an absolute beast of a Virtual Machine, probably the best of any language this far

[@VikasPoonia]

Java: hated by every non cs engineers.

[@totototototototitototit]

Java has benefits no matter what they say python may be easy but they regret it latter when they find what c++ and java actually teachs

[@alandecowski5945]

"You have to do all this" Proceeds to show the exact way C (and all its flavors) do it. Also, Python is NOT a programming language. It's a scripting language. If you want to make a program, you use Java or C or whatever. You want to write a simple script? You use Python. Every complaint I see about Java is the exact same argument.

[@tiedye001]

JavaScript is not based on Java, they just stole the name for visibility

[@gulcesafiye9579]

The comment ive been looking for.

[@MasterOfHalo25]

This video felt like it was designed for python devs who can't figure out statically typed languages LOL Java is not a dead language, neither is C. Both are very robust, fast, and help minimize the bugs that come with dynamically typed languages like python. I like to use python for GUIs and scripting only, I always use java or C as the underlying codebase. It's just so much faster and can run on a potato.

[@williambracale3577]

Still love me some C!!!!

[@riordan381]

Its still one of those language that is hugely in demand. I know some java devs who makes like 300K a year

[@kavk]

This guy makes me feel that I am smart

[@spiriten]

"Strongly typed" - Honestly, a huge benefit for me. I know what each of my objects is going to be "Compiled" - Compile times will be around 3 seconds for the average developer, so who cares? It also heavily increases performance "Object Oriented" - Outside of C and possibly JavaScript (its a mess), I cannot name a single language commonly used which isn't object oriented.

[@tyaty]

There is a difference OOP between languages which are OOP focused like Java/C#, and languages that can optionally implement OOP paradigms.

[@spiriten]

@@tyaty Yeah, the difference is that the first is simple and the latter is often a mess.

[@gabrielpauna62]

Even JS has typescript

[@gigantopithecus8254]

@@tyatylike c++

[@andrewclarke8163]

Java just makes me feel comfortable and at home in a way that other languages don't. It was far from being the first one that I learned, but everything in it just makes sense to me. I always try to use the right tool for the job, but when there's no clear cut best, I often reach for Java because I just like it.

[@Bromon655]

This is me with Java and C#, that “at home” feeling that no other language provides.

[@sen7826]

Exactly. I can relate to this very much.

[@swilwerth]

Java is a cool language, and it could be very fast compared to any interpreted one.

[@FatalError248]

Yeah, no. "Everyone" hates Java? Strong words

[@EugeneHaroldKrab]

Obviously it’s a figure of speed 👊🤡

[@matthewgower689]

But java isn't hated....it's actually very loved because of the flexibility that the JVM gives you.

[@heisenballs]

"You have to do all this" Shows 3 lines of code, I think people are just lazy or don't know how to use IDEs

[@unknown3158]

Also, when are you going to have to write a program that only prints a single line of text?

[@justanothergunguy7146]

Right. Imagine using hello world as an example of what makes a language good or bad.

[@NotTheHeroStudios]

I was streaming to a friend trying to learn C# And I was showing him the basics of everything. And I use VSCode and have my extentions, and the reaction to me typing a few letters and auto writing the boiler plate was hilarious. It's amazing how many people just don't know.

[@jsonkody]

The problem is not mainly the number of lines but how stupid is to create class for every action.

[@jsonkody]

... functions ftw!

[@goodnightvids]

It’s a great language to learn coding since you’re basically learning object based programming from the go and if you move eventually to another language it’s gonna be easier than learning python for ex and moving to java

[@hippocleides7105]

Yeah this is the real answer. I find only the people who learn Python first dislike Java

[@tiagofeitosa9815]

My first language was C++, then I learned Java and fell in love with it. Still do and prefer it over Python. Now I hate C++.

[@mypowerlevelisover9000]

Its funny that I had exact opposite experience. My first language was Java and then I learnt c++ now I love/hate javascript I like c++ tho

[@desmodius205]

One semester learnt coding fundamentals in C++. Next one for OOP class had to pick up Java. Omfg it really takes some time to get familiar with, even for simple mathematical operations

[@theultimatereductionist7592]

I have coded, off and on, since I took my first programming course: Fortran in summer 1981, between my junior and senior years of high school. Did well in academic courses: earned an A in Fortran but I worked my ass off doing NOTHING else that summer to earn that A. Did not take my next coding course until 2 semesters of C++ in 2005. My older brother taught Java online at UMBC. He signed me up as a student as a sort-of beta-tester. I did complete his Java course, technically earned a certificate from UMBC, but remember nothing. Then I began to self-learn Python in January 2015. I programmed the heck out of a TI59 programmable calculator in college at U of Delaware for a two-semester year-long physical chemistry course. I also used Fortran for various chemical engineering classes. I finally earned my BChE with a Minor in Russian in 1986. I worked 2 years as "Engineer I" at Rohm & Haas. During that time, I used a little bit of SAS = Statistical Analysis System. I attended graduate school in Mathematics at Rutgers from 1988 until 2000, completing Masters in Math in spring 1991 and PhD in Math on 2000 May 23. I did ZERO coding for any math courses I took for those dozen years: ALL homework ALL exams were good old fashioned paper and pencil writing. But now (Halloween 2023) I know less about coding than ever before, with Python being the ONLY language I can remotely do anything with: just very simple loops for calculator-type calculations. And I HATE coding now more than I ever did before in my life. I salute ALL coders who can put up with doing all this horrible horrible bullshit, all this coding language garbage bullshit. You guys do not get paid enough for your time, slogging through all this excrement. I am too poor to higher a professional coder to code for me. Also, much easier and shorter to write code/coder/coding than program/programmer/programming . So that's why I say coder/coding.

[@genilila]

Is it me or Java is hated only by kids who are starting to learn programming and see videos like this? Every good developer knows that every language has its ups and downs. Java is one of the most used languages, it’s probably the backbone of a lot of your favorite services and banking systems.

[@charlessnachez4248]

« Is hated only by kids » are you triggered because they don’t like your preferred language ? 😂

[@Bromon655]

Python is ruining an entire generation of beginner developers.

[@adriangjonca680]

I love java. It's got alot of 'boilerplate' but I allways feel like it's really good at structuring your code and I find I'm quite efficient in it.

[@DavidMine]

JavaScript is not based on Java. It was named after Java and is completely different

[@brdrnda3805]

... and initially it wasn't even named after Java. The original name was LiveScript.

[@your_-_mom]

@@brdrnda3805I thought the original name was COBOL??

[@brdrnda3805]

@@your_-_mom 🙂They share the same level of awesomeness, but still two different languages.

[@onetrueninjabear4408]

As a java developer this is hilarious

[@Emitter166]

Try soaking a java program in water and do the same for python. Those extra codes are absolutely worth it, its not worth it when you are trying to print hello world but really when you are trying to create a big app, you will understand the power of java

[@nargesm2933]

But I love Java more than Python !😍🤩

[@philippebaillargeon5204]

It always depends on what you are doing. For mid to big projects Java feels much much more stable and safe. For scripts and small projects, you'll get the job done wayyyyyy faster using python.

[@somebody_2837]

​@@philippebaillargeon5204 He said he likes, not uses it a lot.

[@just_a_person-z1m]

@@philippebaillargeon5204python for the prototype, a proper language like java for the implementation

[@Bromon655]

Java being overly verbose is one of my favorite things about it. Much better than something like Python where everything looks like pseudocode

[@kingofthekoopas8857]

Comparing Java to Python is like comparing a plane to a boat

[@pprav987]

planes are faster but ships are can carry more stuff cheaper. And boats were OGs

[@akitobaburao]

It depends! I prefer Java more than python, because it was my first programming language that I was taught in high school (thanks to ICSE and ISC education system). Yeah I know that it's tedious to write that much for a simple print, but it's well structured and there are some thing I felt made much more sense in Java than in python when I was learning it.

[@somerandomguywastaken]

I wonder how many people say their first programming language is their favourite. I defo fall into that group with c#

[@AkshayShukla.]

same bhai, learning oop concepts in java was a deal.

[@pjeet4411]

i learned just now people hates OOP. I thought it is beautiful programming style.

[@tyaty]

OOP is great, when using it makes sense. Otherwise it just adds unneeded complexity.

[@divanvanzyl7545]

If they hate it they dont understand it.

[@brunomonteiro3646]

Fortunatelly, software engineering is not just writing "Hello, World", am I right?

[@bigzigtv706]

I hate it because it cant to system calls like c++ can. Take OpenGL and JOGL for instance, JOGL wraps the system calls in classes that kinda obfuscate whats going on and you have to use an observer listener paradigm to even draw a line on a screen but with c++ i can just access the framebuffer straight up

[@pattmehta5835]

a software is not just "printing lines to console" lol if that's all you want - use powershell or bash dude

[@x12_79]

Haven't used but from what I've seen, it doesn't seem that bad. Even the hello world example you gave didn't seem too verbose compared to languages like c++ past the initial setting up.

[@abr2736]

People hate what they can't 😂

[@KeeperKen30]

When you find a job that pays you to write single line "Hello World" functions, let me know.

[@mohammad-karbalaee]

Most youtube conents are just made to get viewers' attention, not to provide real value. This is an example

[@frankerz8339]

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[@mistafizz5195]

@@frankerz8339 you know what he meant

[@eki203]

"JAVA ins't cool anymore" best argument of all time.

[@cubondemais]

It's a relevant argument, because once it was the best language for many things. Just like Javascript and Python, everyone used Java because those were the jobs you would find. Better than C and compiling for each different architecture. Nowadays Java is a language that could be substituted by languages with better dev experience. Without that popularity leverage it has lost the "you must learn Java" status and now you can choose the best for the task and your experience.

[@aidajam3294]

It is very structured, therefore it can handle huge projects

[@thebabyshpee6508]

Javascript dev: “amen.” *proceeds to use typescript

[@anandarslan4661]

PHP is not bad as it used to be anymore. It's still growing and expanding. Especially Laravel framework

[@nikola3730]

Its a great language, devs are just spoiled with stuff like python now. Not everything needs to be 5 lines long, verbosity is good

[@theseriousaccount]

This. And avoiding whole categories of bugs is good to. Not to mention type safety, speed, ease of application distribution, Java and C# are the only serious modern languages while Python is a toy language, good for one off throw away scripts but any really large project quickly becomes unwieldy.

[@somebody_2837]

Finally, a REAL comment. Sometimes, this thing that developers call "verbosity" is good. This style of object oriented programming makes bugs nearly avoidable, but in Python, you have to run into a runtime error in order to know the bug, which wastes time.

[@theseriousaccount]

@@somebody_2837 totally agree. python and all these “nice” languages are only good if you’re churning through a lot of tutorials or examples. Maintaining large programs in production environment is different thing. I have to deal with a lot of python in my organization and you get nothing for free, all the gains from a cleaner syntax gets wiped out very early and are never seen again. Yes there are a load of best practices that the programmer should follow when dealing with python but you know how humans are, at least with java and c# etc you let a lot of that for free.

[@msx94]

​@@theseriousaccountbro... Chatgpt is written in python that's a huge ass project

[@e-nsecure]

The guy is like Bubbles from trailer park boys with veneers

[@red_991]

This whole video is just filled with no many inaccuracies.

[@boc_fan]

I learned java for my first language. I think it was a great choice. The syntax is extremely annoying I agree, but, it teachers new programmers how to think when using imperative languages.

[@CGMossa]

Java script is not based on Java.

[@rregid]

Hell yeah, I was searching for this comment. Damn, Java in JavaScript is just an attempt to get on a hype train of Sun promoting Java at a time. Otherwise they are related like fortran and python

[@ornelas_dev]

Makes it hard to write bugs, huh? Challenge accepted!

[@mitfreude]

the end got me 💀

[@GGysar]

I love strongly typed languages. It makes reading and understanding code so much easier for me.

[@moar-chan1060]

Tell me you only code js, without telling me you only code js.

[@unknown3158]

Why do people always use the "Print hello world" simple program to show how "simple" or how "complex" a language is. For one, you are never going to write code that does nothing but print text (unless you have just started a course), and second, you need to do all that to write one simple line of text, but for the next one you don't need to do that, and it is not like you are writing some alien code, when you read it, it actually makes a lot of sense. I think we should talk more about how you have to avoid using 'for loops' in Python, because you are gonna have to wait an eternity for your program to run.

[@Newb1eProgrammer]

"If you cant write a language the next best thing is to hate on it"

[@Hathwos]

Meanwhile at PHP: print “Hello, World!”; ❤

[@indraworks6050]

easy java just write:psvm then sout("hello world") all its just about your IDE use intelj

[@codenevis_]

@@indraworks6050 Yeah man they act like writing a main method is an absolute nightmare

[@redcrafterlppa303]

Java is improving the boilerplate problem. You can now write transparent data classes in 1 line using records. The removal of a lot of main related boilerplate was also recently announced. Like for example dropping the System.out in print statements. It's also universes ahead python in speed. With many other performance improving changes in the pipeline for java it will continue to speed up significantly in the future.

[@jamespower5165]

By Java, do you mean Kotlin? "Improving" Java would be pointless at this point. It's strength is its stability

[@redcrafterlppa303]

@@jamespower5165 no java is literally releasing a new feature release every 6 months. The next is java jdk 20 in march 2023.

[@Captn-Z-Fear]

Wait, they are dropping the System.out for print? This guy's whole argument just got demolished. No for real though, while I like Java more than python for large projects, I can't wait for them to add python f-strings to Java, makes it a lot easier to mix variables and strings when printing to the console. It's like a little quality of life feature, but I want it so bad.

[@redcrafterlppa303]

@@Captn-Z-Fear they are also in the works the current syntax is var s = STR."My \{variable} in string"; String templates are a whole new way to parse and validate strings. It will be awesome.

[@Chiramisudo]

Well, actually JavaScript is not at ALL based on Java. It was given that name for no other reason than to ride the coattails of Java's early success. It was originally called Mocha and then Lightscript, before settling on JavaScript. Fun fact, the language's creator, Brendan Eich, is now the CEO of Brave, my favorite browser.

[@marktheunknown1829]

My first language was Java, and I am very thankful I didn't learn python as first Java gave me a good basic understanding about programming and OOP Always in my heart ❤️

[@Stl71]

Same here.

[@fortuneosho8137]

“At least it not php” Ouch😂😂😂

[@yungifez]

Im a php dev amd i felt it

[@Hathwos]

@@yungifez Same ❤

[@itachi-senpaii]

"Java is the bestest best programming language" - Sun Tzu

[@Phriffo]

🐍 = 🔥🔥 ☕️ = 🗑️🚮

[@MikaelIsaksson]

Java is awesome! It's really great at solving problems it just caused.

[@J1Jordy]

For newbie developers that start off with JavaScript or Python in a basic VSCode setup, it's gonna feel bad to work with Java. For more experienced programmers with a full-fledged IDE, Java can be written in pretty much the same speed (especially if you include time lost debugging JavaScript).

[@paulo2357]

"it makes harder to write bugs" have you ever maintain a java app?? Most oop maintenance cost is fixing bugs

[@Gkcrafting]

The roast at the end 💀

[@pierreollivier1]

I just started learning Java as i want to get into programming to create games, and honestly it doesn’t seem that bad, it’s very readable, and it look like a great way to get into oriented objects programming. Because yea Python is easier but at the same time if you don’t have a degree in computer science, you’re not really marketable with python.

[@sirgoldman]

ay, java the goat

[@xXEnigmaXx001]

“At least its not PHP” - I was wheezing 😂

[@vncntjms]

"At least it's not PHP" Me: *cries in Laravel*

[@travis8106]

PHP devs are taking collateral damage like crazy holy shit

[@codinghermit5162]

“Atleast it’s not pho” good heavens 😅

[@c0naNnn]

Dude's teeth are immaculate 💎

[@atlantic_love]

I love what Java is trying to do, but the overly-word-run-on statements is a real turn off.

[@damurichannel]

I actually love java, I don't know why everyone hates it. I prefer Java over C++ hundred times

[@kevinaaronson]

How to say how you are not in the industry without saying you are not in the industry.

[@indra_vrtrahan]

Lmfaooo, the diss on php 😂

[@JohnGodwin777]

Java is to JavaScript what car is to carpet.

[@hyper7354]

JavaScript is not based on Java at all.

[@jason13gaming]

“Harder to write bugs” minecraft developers are shaking

[@genechristiansomoza4931]

Php html javascript css are enough for me.

[@Gabycangri1]

… customizable Garbage collection? Platform independent? OOP? Stand alone applications? Multithreading? And main is simply a way to not instantiate anything and run code. You don’t need it in every file.

[@wordshot1506]

"but hey, atleast it's not PHP!" GIVES ME SPLENDID HOPE 🗿

[@thefakedeal]

Java is fun and tedious to use at the same time

[@danielsolomon6227]

Java and C++ teach you programming basics. You learn java to immerse yourself in OOP.

[@thewildben3929]

bro dissed my boy php outa nowhere

[@yosoyfantastico]

And then people like typescript for the same thing they hate java for

[@riadh3885]

The last line was hilarious 😂😂

[@drmonkeys852]

C# is strongly typed compiled and object oriented, but gets nowhere near amount of hate that Java does

[@somebody_2837]

Because it has a little more features that Java doesn't. Not to say that Java is bad. The reason C# is mostly preferred over Java is probably because it's newer and people think it's "cool" to hate on Java.

[@HrHaakon]

Probably because it's not as popular and not used as a teaching language, and thus the place where you had to learn hard things first. That's not to hate on C# it's a fine language (that doesn't mean the friendly flamewars are off, those are a staple, and good wholesome fun), it's just that Java runs on 3 Billion Devices and C# doesn't.. :p

[@ilkhomjonkhudoyberdiev5619]

Verbose will be very useful when your team has 100+ devs, it will help you to understand the code easily.

[@unbekannter_Nutzer]

Your Python:Hello World works exactly as is in the JShell.